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Not a day without a break. The main anti-monopoly of Ukraine "fined" Gazprom "for 85 billion hryvnias

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The head of the Antimonopoly Committee of Ukraine, Yuriy Terentiev, on his Facebook page published a note stating that the committee decided to “fine” Russian Gazprom in the amount of 85 billion hryvnia (about 290 billion rubles). In a note, Terentyev writes:


A decision has just been made on the abuse of the monopoly position on the market for the transit of natural gas by trunk pipelines on the territory of Ukraine by Gazprom (as the monopoly buyer). The amount of the fine - 85 billion UAH.


Not a day without a break. The main anti-monopoly of Ukraine "fined" Gazprom "for 85 billion hryvnias


It should be recalled that the Antimonopoly Committee of Ukraine in April last year received an appeal from the Ukrainian Cabinet of Ministers headed by Yatsenyuk. The appeal concerned the need for anti-monopoly verification of the transit of Russian gas through the territory of Ukraine to European countries. The investigation started a few weeks after receiving a government request, and, apparently, only now the Ukrainian anti-monopoly officers have counted on how much they are ready to “fine” the Russian gas company. By the way, earlier it was about the amount of approximately more than 100 billion hryvnia.

I wonder what methods Ukraine will charge "fine" ... With gas extraction or cutting off pieces of a transit pipe?

Earlier, Gazprom announced going to court in connection with Naftogaz’s non-payment of debt in the amount of 2,59 billion dollars for ignoring the take-or-pay formula valid in the 3 quarter of last year.
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  1. Dezinto
    Dezinto 22 January 2016 13: 56
    38
    Vooon there peremogay ....

    1. St Petrov
      St Petrov 22 January 2016 13: 57
      33
      the impression is that they are all immortal there.

      I think for each of the local% *: aces daddy lies on the Lubyanka. They are waiting for the ruins to come under the jurisdiction of the Russian Federation and it will be possible to start working.


      1. Denis
        Denis 22 January 2016 14: 03
        15
        Quote: s-t Petrov
        the impression is that they are all immortal there.

        Tomorrow Ukraine will say that it wants to settle Jupiter ...
        1. Borets
          Borets 22 January 2016 14: 30
          +7
          No, they will say that his great ukry made from the land which remained after digging the Black Sea.
          1. alex-s
            alex-s 22 January 2016 14: 32
            +4
            Man, ash yourself was stunned by what he said! fool
            1. cniza
              cniza 22 January 2016 15: 15
              +7
              Quote: alex-s
              Man, ash yourself was stunned by what he said! fool



              What do they all smoke there? ... this is not even funny, but causes a feeling of disgust.
              1. KVIRTU
                KVIRTU 22 January 2016 19: 33
                +7
                You read carefully: "on the abuse of a monopoly position in the natural gas transit market by main pipelines in Ukraine by Gazprom (as a monopoly buyer)"
                the "buyer"? crushes a man ...
                "On December 29, 2015, the National Commission for Regulation in the Sphere of Energy and Utilities set tariffs for natural gas transportation services through cross-border gas pipelines for entry and exit points. If earlier the cost of transit gas transportation services did not fall under state regulation and was determined only by a bilateral contract between the companies, now the relevant tariffs are determined by NKREKU"
                Those. do they set the tariffs themselves, and write out a fine for violating antimonopoly legislation to Gazprom? Business ...
                1. Aleksander
                  Aleksander 22 January 2016 22: 10
                  +1
                  Quote: KVIRTU
                  Please read carefully: "on the abuse of a monopoly position in the natural gas transit market by main pipelines in Ukraine by Gazprom


                  OK, but let them say first HOW SHOULD IT ?! belay The system is theirs! Let someone else sell the right to transit, just how does this someone get to their pipe !? lol yes
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          2. lysyj bob
            lysyj bob 22 January 2016 14: 57
            +7
            Quote: Borets
            No, they will say that his great ukry made from the land which remained after digging the Black Sea.



            From this land they poured the Caucasus. Learn history ...)))
            1. bulvas
              bulvas 22 January 2016 14: 59
              +8
              So the question was already raised, simply, they could not explain who else could use the pipe except for Gazprom, i.e. before whom Gazprom uses its monopoly position.

              Apparently, they have already forgotten, the loop has become ...


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          3. Alex20042004
            Alex20042004 22 January 2016 22: 03
            +2
            “... The Black Sea appeared artificially thanks to the talent and work of ancient ukrov. In time immemorial, when our compatriots returned home from distant wanderings and talked about large expanses of water in transcendental lands, it was decided to create a sea for themselves. As a result of the heroic work of more than one generation of your ancestors, a huge lake was dug.
            Another evidence is the accumulation of hydrogen sulfide in the lower layers of this reservoir, which is explained by its intensive use for washing and washing our ancestors ... "
            "... People are a fruitful branch of the Ukrainian national tree ..."
            “... Arias (orii) - the most ancient name of Ukrainians. The first plowmen of the world. Tamed a horse, invented a wheel and a plow ... "
            “... The basis of Sanskrit is some mysterious language“ samsar ”, brought to our planet from Venus. Is it not about the Ukrainian language? .. "
            “... The Ukrainian language is antediluvian, the language of Noah, the oldest language in the world, from which the Caucasian-Yaphet, Prachamite and Prasemite groups of languages ​​evolved ...”
            “Ukraine from ancient times led the civilizational development of the people of the white race, provided for this development in every possible way, favored it, even in captivity. Can anyone else find in themselves that moral and divine powerful force and pure historical truth and ability to continue to be the conductor of the last civilization of mankind ... "
            "... We have reason to believe that Ovid wrote poetry in the ancient Ukrainian language ..."
            “... The glorious commander Spartak can be ranked among the brightest representatives of the Scythian-Aryan ethnic group, which gave the world modern Ukrainians as well ...”
            “... Ukrainians are a great nation that once populated almost all of Europe. Gauls - the inhabitants of Galicia (Galicians - Western Ukrainians), Galicia (in Spain), Gaul - in France and Northern Italy and the gels - the Scots, as well as the Irish - they are one and the same people. Part of the Galicians inhabited Thrace. So Spartak and Bandera are the national heroes of our homeland ... "
        2. _Vladislav_
          _Vladislav_ 22 January 2016 14: 33
          +6
          They threw a link here to enter the censor, I wanted to read the hohlosrach, I click, it is written - error 404.
          I don’t know the glitch, but nevertheless, he smiled, symbolically.
          1. your1970
            your1970 22 January 2016 17: 40
            0
            censor has long been blocked
        3. Nikolay K
          Nikolay K 22 January 2016 14: 41
          -6
          Jokes are jokes, but these greatly complicate the life of Gazprom. He obviously will not succeed in challenging this decision in Ukrainian courts, and international courts will consider Gazprom’s complaint for many years. In the meantime, the Ukrainian government will be in the hands of a court decision that has entered into force and they can seek the seizure of Gazprom assets around the world. So this problem of Ukrainian idiocy can be solved either politically or medically.
          1. Ami du peuple
            Ami du peuple 22 January 2016 15: 09
            16
            Quote: Nikolai K
            In the meantime, the Ukrainian government will be in the hands of a court decision that has entered into force and they can seek the seizure of Gazprom assets around the world.

            They can neatly turn this solution into a tube and shove it deeper into the hole. The transit agreement expressly states that disputes between the parties are resolved in courts of international jurisdiction. Ukrainian courts do not apply to such.
            1. Nikolay K
              Nikolay K 22 January 2016 16: 02
              -9
              And where is the transit agreement? Who is he with? With Ukrtransgaz. And here we are talking about the decision of the antimonopoly authority of Ukraine and this act will be disputed in the court of Ukraine. Understand the essence of the matter, and then declare about international jurisdictions.
              As for the tube in the duplex, then you are probably in the know about the seized assets of the Russian Federation in the Yukos case? Here, it will be even simpler for Ukrainians, because the assets of not the state but of the company are seized. Many countries have intergovernmental agreements on the enforcement of court decisions (by the way, with us, too, with Ukraine), according to which, based on a court decision of one country, executive actions can be carried out in another country. And the relevant authorities, for example, of a Germany, will formally be obliged to accept a writ of execution issued by a Ukrainian court, seize Gazprom’s assets and write off money in favor of Ukraine.
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              2. Nikolay K
                Nikolay K 22 January 2016 16: 13
                -6
                In addition, Ukrainian courts may foreclose Gazprom property in Ukraine. I know about one property of Gazprom, which is dofig in Ukraine: gas that goes through the Ukrainian pipe.
                1. vlad66
                  vlad66 22 January 2016 16: 52
                  16
                  Quote: Nikolai K
                  I know about one property of Gazprom, which is dofig in Ukraine: gas that goes through the Ukrainian pipe.

                  Well, they respected this Ukrainian pipe and put it in a pipe, the gas goes to Europe in transit and paid for by Europe. This is just another crazy blackmail, and at the expense of the courts, dear Nikolai, just look how many Ukrainians and we appealed there and how many court decisions have been made and executed. hi
                  1. Nikolay K
                    Nikolay K 22 January 2016 17: 29
                    -4
                    You can personally shove this pipe into their hollow, I’m only FOR.
                    This is certainly blackmail. I am only talking about the fact that this blackmail is very thoughtful and has much more real prospects for implementation than the earlier threats of litigation in international courts.
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                2. kryuger.mark
                  kryuger.mark 22 January 2016 17: 24
                  0
                  Ukrainian courts can make decisions every day, only who will execute them? If the citizens of Ukraine, then they should.
                3. crumb
                  crumb 22 January 2016 20: 03
                  0
                  damn what property of Gazprom in Ukraine are you talking about - the pipe through which gas flows belongs to Naftogaz of Ukraine Gazprom only pumps gas i.e. in transit
              3. Rostov
                Rostov 22 January 2016 18: 36
                +1
                Quote: Nikolai K
                And here we are talking about the decision of the antimonopoly authority of Ukraine and this act will be disputed in the court of Ukraine.

                Write it right, but here it goes
                Quote: Nikolai K
                And the relevant authorities, for example, some Germany will be formally required to accept enforcement order issued by Ukrainian court

                Open GPC and study the corresponding section. How do you imagine the opportunity to accept the execution document of another state? Legislation of European countries, in this matter, is identical to ours. In this case, the Ministry of Justice of Ukraine must first apply to the relevant German Ministry, after which the authorized German court must make a decision and render his executive document! At the same time, all interested parties are notified.
                Quote: Nikolai K
                So this problem of Ukrainian idiocy can be solved either politically or medically.

                Have you forgotten the economic side? Surely you are aware that Poroshenko has assets in the Russian Federation. But that’s all right. The main thing is that Akhmetov has assets in the Russian Federation! And this is more serious. And since Gazprom is one of the sacred cows of our government, economic measures will be taken against these people already at a run.
                ps But in general, are you a lawyer?
                1. Nikolay K
                  Nikolay K 22 January 2016 20: 40
                  0
                  That's right, a foreign state court will issue its writ of execution on the basis of a decision of the Ukrainian court that has entered into force. Who cares, can study the details. Most importantly, in this case the foreign court does not consider the case on the merits, but monitors compliance with the necessary formalities. But, as I already wrote, the most likely scenario is when Ukraine will levy a penalty on transit gas. Until the goods are transferred to European consumers, Gazprom remains the owner of the gas. In a word, it will be difficult for Gazprom to resist in the legal plane a raider called the Ukrainian state
                  1. Rostov
                    Rostov 22 January 2016 21: 25
                    0
                    Quote: Nikolai K
                    In a word, it will be difficult for Gazprom to resist in the legal plane a raider called the Ukrainian state

                    I wrote to you above. Or do you doubt that Gazprom is a sacred cow? Many personal pockets of our power will be affected here.
                    Quote: Nikolai K
                    a foreign court does not consider the case on the merits, but monitors compliance with the necessary formalities

                    There are no questions, in essence, of course, does not consider, but below, your opponent wrote everything correctly. Those. in fact, penalties must be applied to Naftogaz, as Gazprom does not own the pipe, and, accordingly, by no means can he be a monopolist, since he cannot decide who to put on this pipe. And in the case, which I fully admit, of illegal "dominance" of the decisions of the Ukrainian anti-monopoly authorities by the courts of Ukraine, Gazprom simply applies to international arbitration. Those. in fact, the court's decision continues to be challenged, and, accordingly, no European (or any other) court will issue an executive document of its state.
                    Of course, Ukraine may begin to take gas from the pipe, but then the consequences will affect both the state of Ukraine itself and, first of all, the personal pockets of those holding power. Ali Do you think that we alone Onishchenko was able to find all sorts of bugs, worms?
                    1. Nikolay K
                      Nikolay K 23 January 2016 00: 49
                      0
                      I don’t understand what are you trying to convince me of? What is the decision of the Ukrainian antitrust authority is nonsense? So I do not argue with that. Moreover, the article says that the decision has already been made, it can only be challenged in a Ukrainian court.
                      I will not argue that Gazprom is a sacred cow for us, which is why I see the most real way to resolve the issue in political terms. And most importantly, what I wanted to say. Despite all the insanity that is happening, it will be extremely difficult for Gazprom to defend its position in the legal field. Therefore, the new nonsense of Ukrainian government should be taken seriously, and not just neighing and waved below the elbow.
                  2. major147
                    major147 22 January 2016 22: 11
                    0
                    In Ukraine there is Russian gas. The Kiev junta has long been striving for gas to be transferred to Western buyers on the Russian-Ukrainian border.
                    1. Nikolay K
                      Nikolay K 23 January 2016 00: 51
                      0
                      On the contrary, Gazprom is striving for this in order to remove the risks of an inadequate transport. And Europe also does not want to take on the problems of a new "partner"
              4. Ami du peuple
                Ami du peuple 22 January 2016 18: 38
                +1
                Quote: Nikolai K
                Many countries have intergovernmental agreements on the enforcement of court decisions (by the way, with us, too, with Ukraine)

                Kolya, do not make people laugh. International lawyer-homeworker. bully The relationship between Gazprom and Naftogaz is governed by a contract, and all disputes between the parties (specified separately) are resolved in the International Arbitration Court.
                The Yukos case is a completely different story, where disgruntled foreign shareholders demanded their financial resources for their shares. They dispute the legality of the bankruptcy and subsequent takeover of the company, which were carried out under Russian law.
                Don't you feel the difference?
                1. Nikolay K
                  Nikolay K 22 January 2016 20: 27
                  -1
                  Do you really don’t understand the difference between the speed of Naftogaz and Gazprom over transit and the claim of the state body of Ukraine to Gazprom? You have enough to catch the difference between the commercial agreement of the two parties and the relationship between the state supervision of the authority, which may be: the antimonopoly committee, tax authorities, customs, etc. And commercial structure. Can you turn on the brain and understand that in the latter case, national legislation is in force and you are considering disputes in national courts? Regarding the implementation of decisions taken by the national court, in foreign jurisdictions, first study the issue, and then bother your ass with a lift from the couch.
                  1. Ami du peuple
                    Ami du peuple 22 January 2016 20: 42
                    0

                    Nikolay K RU  Today, 20:27 ↑ New


                    Do you really don’t understand the difference between the speed of Naftogaz and Gazprom over transit and the claim of the state body of Ukraine to Gazprom?

                    AMCU can make any decisions - they do not concern Gazprom. He is not a Ukrainian resident and does not conduct business in Ukraine. "Gazprom" transfers gas to "Naftogaz" on the western border of the Russian Federation and that's it! Damn, study the same question, my dear, if you really want to argue!
                    1. Nikolay K
                      Nikolay K 23 January 2016 01: 03
                      -1
                      What nonsense are you talking about. What does it mean just transferring gas? He transfers the gas to the carrier for transportation, while remaining the owner of the gas, and this is the most commercial activity. And what about the fact that Gazprom is not a Ukrainian resident? Do you think if some Turkish cargo ship violates our customs legislation, we will not be able to fine it? We’ll do it in two counts, and if necessary, we will arrest the ship.
                      And believe me, Ukraine doesn’t give a damn whether it has the right to make a decision regarding Gazprom or not, it already made it, as stated in the article. And I’m just saying that it will be extremely difficult for Gazprom to challenge this unjust decision. Because it has little to do with law. This is a state missile.
                      1. Ami du peuple
                        Ami du peuple 23 January 2016 01: 23
                        -1
                        Quote: Nikolai K
                        Do you think if some Turkish cargo ship violates our customs legislation, we will not be able to fine it? We’ll do it in two counts, and if necessary we will arrest the ship.

                        Bliiiiin ... What "Turkish dry cargo ship"? What "customs legislation"? What are these idiotic examples?
                        The Ukrainian pipe runs through Ukrainian territory, right? According to the contract, gas is supplied to it in the interests of third parties, right? For transportation services, the Ukrainian side is paid a pre-agreed amount, right? Where, I ask you, is the violation of the antimonopoly legislation seen here ?! Moreover, if Naftogaz itself is a monopoly in gas transit and can easily find other interested users of the Ukrainian GTS?
                        Quote: Nikolai K
                        ..he has already taken it out, as stated in the article.

                        Yes, do not care what Ukraine endured! How are they going to fulfill this decision? What is the penalty mechanism?
                        Mykola, I'm sorry, but along the way you are as stubborn as the officials of the Ukrainian government.
                      2. Nikolay K
                        Nikolay K 23 January 2016 18: 50
                        0
                        "Where, I ask you, is the violation of the antimonopoly legislation seen here ?!"
                        I answer: ANYWHERE. Because the adoption of such a decision by the antimonopoly committee is bullshit. But I’m tired of telling you that it will be almost impossible for Gazprom to appeal this nonsense in Ukrainian courts.
                        "Yes, give a damn what Ukraine endured! How are they going to carry out this decision? What is the mechanism for collecting the imposed fine?"
                        Legal mechanisms have already been described:
                        1. Recovery of Gazprom property in Ukraine. Such property is gas owned by Gazprom and located in the Ukrainian pipe.
                        2. It is possible to foreclose Gazprom property in other countries with which Ukraine has concluded intergovernmental agreements. For this, Ukraine turns to a foreign court and it issues a writ of execution.

                        I understand that all these scenarios are not very pleasant for you, like me, but hold on to your emotions and turn on the brain.
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            2. major147
              major147 22 January 2016 22: 06
              0
              By the way, about the courts. In response, it is very convenient to arrest (by decision of Russian courts in response) Ukrainian ships passing through the Kerch Strait. Since "such a booze has gone."
              1. Nikolay K
                Nikolay K 23 January 2016 01: 07
                0
                The arrest must be based on something, otherwise it is piracy. Ukraine has come up with a story with antitrust laws. It’s more difficult for us to invent stories, if only because we are more adequate.
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        4. exalibor
          exalibor 22 January 2016 15: 44
          +2
          you’re saying something stupid .... property may be arrested in other countries if an international court decision is made and not a local one, in the same way a Russian court can decide to arrest US or EU property for illegally imposed sanctions and will begin to confiscate property ... and then who will accept the legality of such a court ...
          1. Nikolay K
            Nikolay K 22 January 2016 16: 05
            -10 qualifying.
            Who would talk about stupid things. . .
            Read the comment above. And if it’s really interesting, read here:
            http://pravo-ukraine.org.ua/analytics/sobytie/6268-ispolnenie-reshenij-sudov-ukr
            ainy-na-territorii-drugix-gosudarstv
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        5. Kite
          Kite 22 January 2016 16: 58
          +4
          "The abuse decision has just been made monopoly position in the transit market natural gas trunk pipelines on the territory of Ukraine by Gazprom
          Quote: Nikolai K
          Challenge this decision in Ukrainian courts he obviously will not succeed,

          ??

          - in hohlyatskih "courts" you can not dispute anything, but if we talk about transit, it is not Gazprom that deals with it, but the one to whom Gazprom pays money for transit. Was it not Gazprom that recently raised the cost of gas transit through Ukraine by one and a half times? In order not to be a monopoly in gas transit through Ukriya, Naftogaz would have to attach an entrance to the pipeline from Iran or Qatar.
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          2. Nikolay K
            Nikolay K 22 January 2016 17: 35
            -4
            Do not talk nonsense, no one has paid a fee and transit has not yet raised. It is the Ukrainians who want to raise the fee, but since it is fixed in the transit contract, they decided to go on the other side and adopted a law according to which the transit fee should be regulated by the state. But in this case, Gazprom has good chances to challenge this act.
            1. Kite
              Kite 22 January 2016 19: 56
              0
              Quote: Nikolai K
              Do not talk nonsense, no one has paid a fee and transit has not yet raised. They want to raise the fee,

              Nikolay, in this context, what will change greatly if you replace "raised" with "stated that he needs to raise"? If the transit fee has not yet been raised, then the transit country is not yet a monopolist wassat, you can also search with whom to agree on the price of the previous pumping through this pipe laughing
              1. Nikolay K
                Nikolay K 22 January 2016 20: 18
                0
                Do you distinguish the difference between fact and gossip? Here it is about the same.
                1. Kite
                  Kite 22 January 2016 20: 53
                  0
                  We are discussing a statement by some ukroderator about the possibility of a judicial decision regarding Gazprom, or maybe it’s
                  Quote: Nikolai K
                  Here it is about the same.

                  as is the demand for higher transit fees - gossip? smile (in my thoughts I follow you wink)
                  You yourself then persist in "discerning the difference" in the desires and goals of ukrodeyateli actions? There is no fact yet. (Again I follow in your footsteps smile )
                  1. Nikolay K
                    Nikolay K 23 January 2016 01: 13
                    0
                    Not this way. The head of the state body with the appropriate authority said that the decision had already been taken. This is not gossip, but an accomplished fact. I explain to you popularly: you were stopped by a traffic police officer and wrote out a protocol and a decision on a fine. It has already happened.
                    You, like Gazprom, can appeal such a decision in court, but in the case of Gazprom there is very little chance of a positive decision.
        6. common man
          common man 22 January 2016 18: 52
          +2
          Quote: Nikolai K
          Jokes are jokes, but these greatly complicate the life of Gazprom.

          Well. The Antimonopoly Committee of Russia is fining Ukrtransgaz for being a monopoly transit country for Russian gas worth 290 billion dollars. rub. And to remedy the situation, the "green men" authorized by the antimonopoly committee are reorganizing Ukrtransgaz into Kharkovtransgaz, Kievtransgaz, Mogilevtransgaz, Lvovtransgaz ... Further on the list.
          1. Nikolay K
            Nikolay K 22 January 2016 20: 50
            +1
            Remarkably, they can award a fine, we are also not the first to soak such pearls. But in this case, there will just be problems with the execution of the decision. Because Ukrtransgaz does not have property in Russia, as is likely in other countries. And the Ukrainian court, of course, will not want to execute the decision of our court. The only way out of the situation is to stop gas supplies and put the issue on a political track.
        7. avdkrd
          avdkrd 22 January 2016 19: 58
          0
          Quote: Nikolai K
          In the meantime, the Ukrainian government will be in the hands of a court decision that has entered into force and they can seek the seizure of Gazprom assets around the world.

          Since when the decision of the Ukrainian court is the basis for the seizure of assets ?? In this procedure, the chances are very dubious. In accordance with the decision of their court, they can invoice Gazprom, and Gazprom, in turn, can appeal this penalty in international arbitration (international agreement). The selection of gas or other actions (to be added to the account of your debt) will both legally and actually constitute theft, regardless of the decision of the international arbitration. The fine of Ukrainian antimonopoly workers is an example of a fabulous ... dolphin of dill, it is not clear what relation they can have to the international treaty signed by the prime minister of their headless country. Russia, for its part, can notify the final recipients that any actions related to unilateral violations of the transit contract (fining fines from the same series) can lead to the complete termination of transit through 404. Responsibility for the violation of deliveries rests with Finland. I don’t know if this will happen, but such a statement of the question would probably cool hot chubby heads, and a cold shower would come from Europe ..
          1. Nikolay K
            Nikolay K 23 January 2016 01: 19
            0
            Russia can declare anything. But if earlier Western consumers didn’t receive gas, because Ukraine simply stole it, and this was obvious to everyone, now Ukraine will brandish a court decision and claim that it has taken gas legally. And it will be much harder for Gazprom to explain to Western consumers why gas has not reached them. Most likely, they will declare that it’s your showdown with Ukraine, you supply us with gas, and then your relationship in court becomes clear.
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      3. Gormenghast
        Gormenghast 22 January 2016 15: 16
        0
        They will import natural gas from Titan. laughing
      4. northern
        northern 22 January 2016 16: 58
        0
        Quote: Denis
        Tomorrow Ukraine will say that it wants to settle Jupiter ...

        But is not Svidomo from there?
      5. zloybond
        zloybond 22 January 2016 18: 00
        0
        Recently, looking through the articles of the site, I noticed a serious bias in the brains of the writers of these articles related to the topic of the statements of any riffraff, which really does not affect the situation in the world, the balance of power.
        More and more often articles come across ... "Someone said ..." ... And so he said that he farted into the water, sorry. Then a full page article that someone there fined Gazprom, some hag blurted out that there are more freedoms in Ukraine ...
        In reality, these articles have no real relation either to military review, just as the author as a rule has nothing to do with military education.
        Reading all the nonsense, folded neatly into the framework of the article, I ask myself: "Why did this article appear here at all?"
        This is not a self-promotion, or an unsuccessful attempt to create a stir around nothing. Really think about it - what changes the eternal nagging around a pitted topic? Trying to keep the topic hot? Well, not at the expense of the mediocre heroes of the article?
        Although there is another crazy thought, well, where ours will not see a worldwide conspiracy. There is a thought that there are authors who are nostalgic for informational garbage and trying to cause some kind of nervous itch. Maybe just mediocre trolls.
        I suggest that the guys from the site introduce automatic transfer of all such articles, including this one, to some column called: "Other nonsense of world observers." To do this, it is enough to put a button after reading which the audience presses and votes the article corresponds to the direct topic of the military review or is it informational rubbish, so to speak.
    2. Ami du peuple
      Ami du peuple 22 January 2016 14: 04
      14
      Quote: s-t Petrov
      the impression is that they are all immortal there.

      He is not immortal, they are infinitely stupid. bully
      "Two things in the world have no limit: the Universe and human stupidity. However, I am not quite sure about the first one" (A. Einstein)
      Think about it: "the abuse of a monopoly position on the natural gas transit market by main pipelines in Ukraine by Gazprom (as exclusive buyer)"
      Everyday situation - there is a shabby general store, into which no one enters. A man came and bought a bottle. And they tell him: "Pay for one more, because it's a fine, since you are the only one and only monopoly buyer" laughing
      1. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 22 January 2016 14: 43
        +3
        Quote: Ami du peuple
        "abuse of a monopoly position in the natural gas transit market by main pipelines in Ukraine by Gazprom (as a monopoly buyer)"

        And I think that they will still go to international arbitration with this fine, and the "independent" arbitration will still be able to decide what decision will be made. This is clearly not an initiative of Svidomo.
        1. evil partisan
          evil partisan 22 January 2016 14: 52
          +8
          Quote: Vladimirets
          This is clearly not the initiative of Svidomo.

          This is just an amateur performance. Curators can help with money, push for decisions in the Rada, keep the Cabinet of Ministers and the prezik on a leash, but they cannot shut the mouths of all the dumb people. After all, they lead a media life, are forced to communicate with the press and with each other. And you Colleague underestimate the degree of their moronism. In their terms, the more lawsuits and the larger the claims, the higher the chances of making at least some kind of positive decision. Logic like: "We need 2 tractors. We write an application for 10. The Ministry will cut it by 2 times and we will get 5. Of these, there will be 1 workable. And out of the 4 remaining faulty tractors, we will somehow collect 1 serviceable." Something like this. hi
          1. Vladimirets
            Vladimirets 22 January 2016 17: 29
            +1
            Quote: Angry Guerrilla
            And you Colleague underestimate the degree of their moronity.

            May be... what
    3. Starik72
      Starik72 22 January 2016 14: 33
      +2
      Sergeant Petrov. Yes, how immortal they are, they are completely brainless, they think with what they sit on a chair!
    4. lelikas
      lelikas 22 January 2016 15: 00
      0
      Quote: s-t Petrov
      the impression is that they are all immortal there.

      Nah, they just have the Ctrl + S; key somewhere), and the main task is to collect the dough more than others and dump it while the people are hitting about the invasion ....
  2. KAV
    KAV 22 January 2016 14: 01
    +3
    If only not to work, but only to cut the lave. Oh, these "brothers" ... Such behavior will not bring them to good. After all, a freebie must be cherished ...
    1. St Petrov
      St Petrov 22 January 2016 14: 02
      +6
      independence is when you suck at a mos * alay from a pipe and bark at them for it.

      1. Ami du peuple
        Ami du peuple 22 January 2016 14: 30
        +1
        Quote: s-t Petrov
        independence is when you suck at mos * alay from the pipe

        Not only from a pipe and not so much at mos * ale. Ukrainians in this regard have a black overseas gentleman out of competition bully
  3. shooter18
    shooter18 22 January 2016 14: 04
    +2
    Stop selling our resources for paper ...
  4. Alex20042004
    Alex20042004 22 January 2016 14: 09
    17
    Here is the answer below:
  5. vlad66
    vlad66 22 January 2016 15: 01
    +9
    I thought that ukroklunov have a limit of cretinism, made a mistake, there is no limit.
  6. sherman1506
    sherman1506 22 January 2016 15: 28
    +1


    where is the SBU looking?
    1. Kalinvagen
      Kalinvagen 23 January 2016 11: 03
      0
      one current Simonenko sits licks, campaign went to the woman grandmother to his corporate home love
  7. Tor5
    Tor5 22 January 2016 16: 51
    0
    This is no longer House No. 6, but a whole building ....
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  9. northern
    northern 22 January 2016 16: 56
    +1
    Quote: DEZINTO
    Vooon there peremogay ....

    exactly -
  10. Dmitry_24rus
    Dmitry_24rus 22 January 2016 20: 13
    +1
    Why publish such news about Ukraine. ?? Let's pull all the rubbish from all into a reputable VO? Article minus. It’s impossible to even laugh, it’s not funny!
  11. Salavatsky Ministry of Emergency Situations
    +1
    Quote: DEZINTO
    Vooon there peremogay ....

    Semen Vasilyevich Petlyura -
    Screaming Ukrainians, waving lard.
    He proudly rides a mare,
    Mare holds the tail pipe.
    And behind the back - his squad
    Mighty glorious giants,
    All former clerks, poets,
    Waving lashes cordially,
    Radyanska praise Ukraine,
    Shoot up from three lines,
    Jews pounding on tinsel,
    When the Jews, a little awake,
    Climb out of the windows
    To the noise of hooves and the sound of weapons ...

    Bolsheviks with mustache, in caps
    Looking secretly from under the porches
    And hide the warm croaks,
    And waiting for Budyonny detachments
    To weigh tryndyuley Petlyura,
    So as not to give him a pancake, Kiev.
    Little finger curtain pushing,
    Look at the girls from the windows
    And they whisper - "Semyon Vasilich himself" ...
    They run faster to wash,
    To meet a full-length hero.
    And songs will flow over the Dnieper,
    And the sea of ​​fat, mountains of fat!
    Semen Vasilyevich Petlyura,
    Semen Vasilyevich Petlyura,
    Feasting devil's accountant ...

    Alexander Laertsky (C)
  • sever.56
    sever.56 22 January 2016 13: 56
    +9
    Will it take one bill?
    Right now I’ll draw and send it to him ... !!!
    1. sever.56
      sever.56 22 January 2016 14: 00
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    3. vic58
      vic58 22 January 2016 14: 28
      +4
      And after that, fine for the MONOPOLY use of the bill good
    4. Lissyara
      Lissyara 22 January 2016 14: 32
      +4
      In-in! Popandopalu reminds.
  • Primus pilus
    Primus pilus 22 January 2016 13: 56
    +2
    Ukrainians burn.
  • Neko75
    Neko75 22 January 2016 13: 56
    +7
    It’s not only Parasha that’s visible to the bottle ...
    1. KAV
      KAV 22 January 2016 14: 02
      +5
      It already looks like something synthetic ... :)
    2. Sergei 34
      Sergei 34 22 January 2016 14: 28
      +5
      The meeting of the Khokhlo Cabinet - "we are starting the meeting, is everyone filled? Do not shirk, you will carry nonsense tomorrow!")
  • kg pv
    kg pv 22 January 2016 13: 58
    0
    Quote: Neko75
    It’s not only Parasha that’s visible to the bottle ...

    There is clearly something harder.
  • Same lech
    Same lech 22 January 2016 13: 59
    +4
    I wonder what methods of Ukraine a “fine” will charge ...

    I believe that the European and American judicial authorities will be used, and we all know how they make verdicts from YUGOSLAVIA.
    1. Sergei 34
      Sergei 34 22 January 2016 14: 32
      +1
      I would tell them which BODIES we will use for such nonsense. No one will pull for them, the egg market already demanded many, many billions of dollars for Crimea ... and yes, we, fortunately, are not Yugoslavia. We are tormented by swallowing dust.
  • Ursidae
    Ursidae 22 January 2016 13: 59
    +3
    Something seems to me that there is a connection with the antitrust investigation of Google.
    "Independent" wink
  • SAM 5
    SAM 5 22 January 2016 14: 01
    +7
    So came kirdyk Gazprom.
  • kind
    kind 22 January 2016 14: 01
    +4
    Let them look for alternative suppliers. Something Lithuania refused American liquefied gas, they say, bitch, not that calorie and expensive!
  • Woodman
    Woodman 22 January 2016 14: 04
    0
    And their face does not crack?
    1. Ros 56
      Ros 56 22 January 2016 17: 45
      0
      Quote: Lesovik
      And their face does not crack?


      Correction - face muzzle. laughing
  • Vadim Zhivov
    Vadim Zhivov 22 January 2016 14: 05
    +5
    The amount is clear ... Debt to give not hotstsa ... Rather, it would be NEW 2019! And let this pipe go they’ll stick it in their own. am
  • Flat5160
    Flat5160 22 January 2016 14: 06
    +2
    Insanity ukrodebiloidov grows stronger. Soon they will try to fine us for the fact that the wind blows from us in theirs! The collapse of the tower continues. I thought it was already over, but no.
  • Nord2015
    Nord2015 22 January 2016 14: 07
    +5
    They will soon fine Russia for their neighborhood with Ukraine. The main principle of life is come on.
    A few years ago, when Crimea was still Ukrainian, there were attempts to take money from Russian ships going from the Azov to the Black Sea. You see the strait belongs to Ukraine. Nothing in the minds of the inhabitants of the country 404 does not change.
  • Amurets
    Amurets 22 January 2016 14: 09
    0
    I don’t know where such clowns come from? The country needs heroes, but here some heroes of jokes, stupid and dumb. Yes, there is a hint for the dill antitrust committee. Since Batu has monopolistically attacked Kiev, and not in an alliance with the EU and NATO, to demand Mongolia compensation for violation of transit law, which they come up with.
  • Black_PR
    Black_PR 22 January 2016 14: 10
    0
    I just want a lot of money ... the freebie is so sweet ...))))
  • pts-m
    pts-m 22 January 2016 14: 10
    0
    it’s that stupid browad of your horse. you might think that dozens of other suppliers from other countries drive gas through these pipes. Naturally, Gazprom is the sole supplier. It’s just to crow.
  • Great-grandfather of Zeus
    Great-grandfather of Zeus 22 January 2016 14: 12
    0
    It must be stated that we have the smallest banknote of one trillion euro, hryvnia, dollars, it doesn’t matter, but there isn’t less, and we won’t pay for the delivery of ukroin!
  • 33 Watcher
    33 Watcher 22 January 2016 14: 12
    +3
    "Head of the Antimonopoly Committee of Ukraine Yuriy Terentyev on his Facebook page"

    Everything. He fined Facebook, collects likes of "patriots". Everything, guys, there is nothing to discuss.
  • Conscience
    Conscience 22 January 2016 14: 13
    0
    hit boys hang out in dill - they eat food, expand, smoke and drink ...
    otherwise, well, how can I not understand their antics.
    maybe this invasion ukrozombi?
  • Al_oriso
    Al_oriso 22 January 2016 14: 14
    0
    No, well then! How are they with Gazprom then, huh?
    What are the following fines?
    With such imagination, they will go so far as to charge for the air that will be transferred from Ukraine to Russia by the wind.
  • Alexander 3
    Alexander 3 22 January 2016 14: 15
    +1
    I'll pay you gas. Catch it.
  • bannik
    bannik 22 January 2016 14: 18
    +1
    It would be good "until all the circumstances are clarified" to suspend gas supplies through the outskirts, or at least to reduce them to the minimums stipulated in the contracts, they say, "it is necessary to consult with partners." And we'll see it there. But is there a possibility and desire of Gazprom to take such a step?
  • Isum
    Isum 22 January 2016 14: 18
    +2
    So Naftogaz is engaged in transit .......
    1. saturn.mmm
      saturn.mmm 22 January 2016 14: 39
      +1
      Quote: IZUM
      So Naftogaz is engaged in transit .......

      I also did not understand why what was presented to Gazprom, Ukrainians carry out monopoly transit of Russian gas and take money for it.
  • alex74nur
    alex74nur 22 January 2016 14: 21
    +1
    The authorities cut the branch on which they are sitting, as if deliberately doing everything so that Gazprom would surely refuse to transit through the territory that was independent in 2019.
  • Flat5160
    Flat5160 22 January 2016 14: 25
    0
    Quote: Good
    Let them look for alternative suppliers. Something Lithuania refused American liquefied gas, they say, bitch, not that calorie and expensive!

    Not that calories, not that system.
  • Red_Hamer
    Red_Hamer 22 January 2016 14: 26
    0
    Mice cried, choked, pricked, but continued to eat cactus with frenzy! Well, bon appetit!
  • VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 22 January 2016 14: 26
    0
    Do they have a fine? tongue
  • Alexanderrr
    Alexanderrr 22 January 2016 14: 31
    0
    Not a glimpse of thought, pure d.f.i.l!
  • Maks-80
    Maks-80 22 January 2016 14: 32
    +1
    It is necessary for Russian antitrust monitors to impose a fine on Naftogaz. wassat
  • BOB044
    BOB044 22 January 2016 14: 32
    +1
    It can be seen in Kiev, the flu affects the brain. Not in one country there is not such a quantity of patients per head in the government. Like in Ukraine. fool
  • avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 22 January 2016 14: 36
    +1
    Another quirk: "Naftagaz" acts as a monopolist in gas transit through the territory of Independence, so what or who is this pot about?
  • Starik72
    Starik72 22 January 2016 14: 40
    0
    Ay Moska, how strong she is that barks at an elephant! The pug barks, the wind wears!
  • vic58
    vic58 22 January 2016 14: 43
    0
    Shchaz they still smoke ... and they will write out a fine to the Sun: "For the monopoly supply of solar energy to the territory of the aggressor, bypassing Ukraine", and also start a case ... because this happens with violation of the Ukrainian. legislation. fool
    The wrong country was called Honduras !!! hi
  • ARES623
    ARES623 22 January 2016 14: 43
    +2
    No matter what nonsense the Ukrainians bear regarding the conditions of the current gas transit through Ukraine, Europe should be tensed, it is today held hostage by Kiev. Although, on the other hand, dangerous ukrov fortels with gate valves will entail the acceleration of construction and the coordination of SP-2.
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 22 January 2016 14: 46
    0
    Here is a clown, you saw yourself in a mirror, not a single supplier in your sober mind will sit at the negotiating table. That is why, it is necessary to lay SP-2 as soon as possible, and normal people will not come to power with these sheep until normal.
  • Furious bambr
    Furious bambr 22 January 2016 14: 47
    -1
    Oh how! And what else do we owe? For looking at the map of Usraina yet?
  • Old Siberian
    Old Siberian 22 January 2016 14: 49
    0
    Oh and fools dill, wholesale and retail.
  • morpogr
    morpogr 22 January 2016 14: 50
    +2
    Yes, on the face of the apparent deterioration of the patient's condition from the stage of all the world to the world should.
  • Dwarfik
    Dwarfik 22 January 2016 14: 51
    0
    I don’t even want to laugh. And who else will drive through this rusty pipe? and the eyes are straight gold gone astray.
  • Flinky
    Flinky 22 January 2016 15: 00
    +1
    Another zradomoga. Or overdose.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 22 January 2016 15: 10
      +1
      Perezamuhrada they have there.
  • hohkn
    hohkn 22 January 2016 15: 04
    +1
    Quote: alex-s
    Man, ash yourself was stunned by what he said! fool

    No, he sniffed something. Can tire smoke act like that?
  • Vades
    Vades 22 January 2016 15: 04
    0
    No, but who is to blame? that they did not announce a tender for gas supplies?
  • AdekvatNICK
    AdekvatNICK 22 January 2016 15: 04
    0
    the creatures are already kissing the Turks. cooperation in the military sphere.
    1. Karayakupovo
      Karayakupovo 22 January 2016 15: 41
      0
      It's like "take our" friends "from IS" because the Russians are killing them.
    2. varov14
      varov14 22 January 2016 18: 00
      0
      No, he asks for the transit of refugees to Europe to organize, in addition to gas, money needs to be earned somehow.
  • Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 22 January 2016 15: 17
    0
    Yes, this is preparation for the seizure of transit gas in offset of the fine drawn! laughing

    IMHO, it's time for Europe to get very worried.
  • Gor-1974
    Gor-1974 22 January 2016 15: 18
    -1
    Surely Western minds came up with a little scheme, so that two parties to the conflict remained at their own place, Russia would not give this money to Ukraine, and America would not give 3 billion of Ukrainian debt. and everyone will live happily ever after.
    1. Ros 56
      Ros 56 22 January 2016 16: 29
      0
      Quote: Gor-1974
      everyone will live happily ever after.

      Have you tied your birthday to the moon?
  • Aleksey888
    Aleksey888 22 January 2016 15: 24
    0
    The insane Napoleons just cry sobbing. laughing I will throw them an idea, if they read. But isn't it time for them to put America and Europe on a fine? Svidomushki ..... AU ..
  • Eastern wind
    Eastern wind 22 January 2016 15: 25
    +5
    Yes, who reads the news of Ukraine - the one in the circus does not laugh ...
    1. Ros 56
      Ros 56 22 January 2016 16: 31
      0
      Quote: East Wind
      he doesn’t laugh in the circus ...

      Mironov does not need to be compared with morons, he is an order of magnitude higher.
      1. Eastern wind
        Eastern wind 22 January 2016 16: 42
        0
        Well, why is it so literally ... Figuratively, only figuratively. I think Andrei Aleksandrovich himself would appreciate it. Think of some irony - they wanted to do something disgusting to someone, but they found themselves aground with someone else's frayed underwear.
    2. varov14
      varov14 22 January 2016 17: 55
      0
      Here is the result of a "bath day" in the Rada after fist fights. And they managed to wipe only half of the "stools".
  • The point
    The point 22 January 2016 15: 30
    +1
    Completely shores ceased to see.
  • Airborne Major
    Airborne Major 22 January 2016 15: 33
    +1
    Quote after Lavrov: "Morons, b ... be!"
  • The black
    The black 22 January 2016 15: 33
    +2
    They made a trillion billion, and better, a trillion billion laughing ..... In my opinion, it's time to end this transit through Ukraine. Terminate - due to violation of the contract by Ukraine. Let the lawyers and Europe have a headache! ... until the moment, the juntics have no brains ...