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NATO representative: we already have a permanent presence in Eastern Europe

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NATO units are constantly located in Eastern Europe, there is no difference between a rotational, permanent and stable presence in this sense. RIA News statement by the head of the military committee of the alliance Peter Pavel.


NATO representative: we already have a permanent presence in Eastern Europe


Earlier, the Polish government expressed the hope that in July 2016 g at the Warsaw summit of the alliance it would be decided to deploy NATO troops in Eastern Europe on a permanent basis.

“I think we use different terminology, but we mean the same thing. Some use the term permanent, others sustainable, and others rotational. In fact, everyone is talking about the same thing. As part of measures to strengthen the confidence of our eastern allies, there are a certain number of soldiers provided by other allies and conducting exercises on a rotating basis. ”- Pavel explained.

“These soldiers are a kind of forward presence, the purpose of which is not only to give confidence to our allies on the eastern flank of NATO, but, on the other hand, is a sign of solidarity from other allies,” he added.

As for Russia, then, according to Pavel, NATO is making attempts to establish contacts with it, but Moscow does not demonstrate such a desire.

“With regard to communication with Russia, everyone acknowledges that we cannot avoid dialogue at the political and military level if we want to avoid strategic miscalculations or incidents such as the one that led to the crash of the Russian aircraft crossing the Turkish border. Unfortunately, there are discrepancies between the statements of the Russian side in the media and the practical desire to make contact. Since I took my position in June, I have made several attempts to use the military communication channel. There is still a lack of desire on the Russian side to come into contact. ”, - he said.

According to him, this does not mean "complete closure of communication channels with Moscow." “Russians communicate bilaterally with countries (alliance).” Therefore, there is some communication, ”said Pavel.
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  1. Ami du peuple
    Ami du peuple 22 January 2016 09: 29
    26
    Since I took my position in June, I have made several attempts to use the military communication channel. There is still a lack of desire on the Russian side to make contact

    What to talk about with you? Conversations, negotiations, promises - all in the past. There is no sense from them, if one side does not fulfill its obligations, NATO has both expanded and continues to expand.
    It is time for Russia to withdraw from all arms limitation treaties in Europe. Enough, reconciled.
    1. vlad66
      vlad66 22 January 2016 09: 36
      23
      “These soldiers are a kind of forward presence, the purpose of which is not only to give confidence to our allies on the eastern flank of NATO, but, on the other hand, is a sign of solidarity from other allies,” he added.

      Now the dumb boy is lying and does not blush; these NATO soldiers are the overseers of the Anglo-Saxons and the FSA for the politicians of Eastern Europe, so that those slaves would continue to be slaves of Fushington.
    2. Inok10
      Inok10 22 January 2016 10: 00
      26
      Quote: Ami du peuple
      What to talk about with you? Conversations, negotiations, promises - all in the past. There is no sense from them, if one side does not fulfill its obligations, NATO has both expanded and continues to expand.

      .. so it was 100 years ago .. caricature of a German artist in 1914 (clickable) .. pay attention to how Russia is depicted .. cap with ear flaps, bear and vodka .. something has changed? .. absolutely nothing, they never liked us, but our zemlyatka always attracted them .. for us the Tsar was Batyushka, for them Samodur and Tiran, for us the Country of Soviets is the Native House, for them the Evil Empire, present Russia and so we see, again we do not suit them .. for not Gorbachev and EBN now in Russia .. hi
      1. edeligor
        edeligor 22 January 2016 10: 14
        +6
        Quote: Inok10
        so it was 100 years ago

        To this topic. Recently I watched a German documentary "With a camera on the eastern front" (downloaded from torrents, probably on YouTube) and so, when Germany attacked the USSR, the same logic sounds as now with NATO expansion. Unfortunately, nothing changes with the change of generations.
        Found on YouTube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vV8c0yFRCw (1 part) who are interested look, informative
      2. Gormenghast
        Gormenghast 22 January 2016 10: 50
        +1
        Duc in "Armageddon" even cosmonaut Andropov - in earflaps and drunk. laughing

        True he also with a sledgehammer, symbolizing the ability to cut between the eyes of any European shit, even the Great Lithuanian. laughing
    3. self-propelled
      self-propelled 22 January 2016 10: 02
      +2
      Quote: Ami du peuple
      What to talk about with you? Conversations, negotiations, promises - all in the past. There is no sense from them, if one side does not fulfill its obligations, NATO has both expanded and continues to expand.
      It is time for Russia to withdraw from all arms limitation treaties in Europe. Enough, reconciled.

      or maybe it’s worth to establish (once lost) military cooperation with Cuba? a great place (as for me) for a naval base, and for air defense and missile defense systems, and for reconnaissance complexes, and for strike complexes ... what
      and then let all these NATS "expand" anywhere
    4. Rezident007
      Rezident007 22 January 2016 10: 31
      +4
      and what's the point that your NATO bases are already in Eastern Europe? You (Europe) will soon be seized without a war, assimilated by the "hot guys" of the Middle East and the Maghreb countries ... Or again - these damned Russians are to blame for everything ??? ) You all expect the Russians to attack you, but the Russians are not as mean as your ancestors, we are not used to hitting them with a brace!
      1. Ami du peuple
        Ami du peuple 22 January 2016 10: 41
        +7
        Quote: Resident007
        You (Europe) will soon be seized without a war, assimilated by the "hot guys" of the Middle East and the Maghreb countries ... Or again - these damned Russians are to blame for everything ???

        They will call more Russians, see. Unless, of course, the self-preservation instinct finally fails.
  2. bad
    bad 22 January 2016 09: 30
    +1
    NATO representative: we already have a permanent presence in Eastern Europe
    ..can boast and get puffed up..but if you bring Mother-Rasey to scribble you will be a whole bunch of races where your eyes look .. laughing our not the first time to beat you .. soldier
  3. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 22 January 2016 09: 32
    +4
    Hitler also climbed and climbed, and when he realized that he should not have done this, it was too late ...
  4. Dave36
    Dave36 22 January 2016 09: 32
    +4
    What is the use of you ... you Europeans allow your women to rape and are afraid to intervene .... You allow crap in the subway and bashfully shoot on the phone ... you turned into a gang of pido .... into ... disperse you to a Russian soldier. ..in six seconds ...
  5. Brutal
    Brutal 22 January 2016 09: 37
    11
    Some kind of glamorous general: Hollywood stubble, hair over the ears and neck are not shaved! Ugh, shame, there is no ensign on him!
    1. Alexanast
      Alexanast 22 January 2016 09: 53
      +7
      So the ensign is our property. They only have an analogy, more or less approximate.
      Therefore, the generals are glamorous.
      1. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 22 January 2016 10: 47
        +1
        Come on, you find fault with your appearance. He is an enemy, but judging by the biography, he’s not at all a girl and knows how to wipe his pants not only in the offices.
        The military career of Peter Paul in the Czechoslovak Army began in 1983, when he was appointed commander of the reconnaissance parachute airborne platoon for special purposes. Two years later, he was appointed commander of a company, which he commanded until 1988. In 1991, Pavel joined the Czech military intelligence service, and in 1993-1994 he was deputy military and aviation attache of the Czech Republic in Belgium.
        In late 1992 - early 1993, Peter Pavel, with the rank of lieutenant colonel, was part of the Czech peacekeeping mission as part of UNPROFOR in Croatia, where in January 1993 he distinguished himself in an operation to rescue fifty French soldiers blocked between Serbian and Croatian warring parties. For this act, Paul was awarded the French Cross of Military Valor with a bronze star, which he received from the hands of French Minister of Defense Francois Leotard. In addition, Pavel was awarded the Czech Republic State Award - the medal “For Heroism”.https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%B0%D0%B2%D0%B5%D0%BB,_%D0%9F%D0%B5%D1%82

        % D1% 80
  6. 33 Watcher
    33 Watcher 22 January 2016 09: 39
    +2
    There really is no difference. He is a hostage, even with rotation even without. Straight with joy they are taking hostages, what is it? Manifestation of Stockholm syndrome?
  7. victorsh
    victorsh 22 January 2016 09: 40
    +5
    if we want to avoid strategic miscalculations or incidents like the one that crashed the Russian plane that crossed the Turkish border.
    Stunned !!! THIS was a crash !!! Then in 2001 in America two buildings collapsed due to poor Arab builders.
    1. common man
      common man 22 January 2016 09: 47
      +4
      Quote: victorsh
      Stunned !!! THIS was a crash !!! Then in 2001 in America two buildings collapsed due to poor Arab builders.

      Not. These twin skyscrapers self-destructed when they realized that they were standing in the way of the planes leased by good Arab citizens.
  8. prabiz
    prabiz 22 January 2016 09: 41
    +1
    "These soldiers represent a kind of forward presence ..." - NO MORE TO EXPECT FROM THEM! fool
  9. Bulrumeb
    Bulrumeb 22 January 2016 09: 41
    +1
    These soldiers represent a kind of advanced presence, the purpose of which is not only to give confidence to our allies on the eastern flank of NATO

    They are completely overgrown, already their tales that they say they stopped talking about outcast countries
  10. ochakow703
    ochakow703 22 January 2016 09: 44
    +1
    Well. For every tricky train ....... there is ....... with a screw!
  11. Ros 56
    Ros 56 22 January 2016 09: 51
    +3
    And what difference does it make to you where the wretched are banging you, in the eastern one, let’s say, or western Europe, what exactly is changing for you, a corpse, it is a corpse in Africa. What they are proud of is incomprehensible.
    That's what migrants send you to a well-known address, and you are such cool NATO members, swallowed and did not choke. You yourself will soon be lifted up their skirts, and you embarrassed clowns - oh, well, don’t. Here are the rams, looking disgusting.
    1. gergi
      gergi 22 January 2016 10: 30
      +1
      The fact that you will start a war from eastern geyrops does not mean that we will not demolish the western then!
  12. TVM - 75
    TVM - 75 22 January 2016 09: 52
    +3
    Interesting position! There is a bandit under your door, an armed bandit with a bunch of mongrels and offers to establish relations. One must have a sore head in order to find this normal.
    1. gergi
      gergi 22 January 2016 10: 26
      +2
      Knock on the door, who is there. open need to talk. how many are you? Three. Well, talk.
  13. kursk87
    kursk87 22 January 2016 09: 54
    +5
    The head of the alliance committee, Peter Pavel, is a vile liar! Russia has presented incontrovertible evidence that the SU 24 was shot down over Syrian territory. Can the leaders of NATO be called to conscience, because their main task is to sharpen relations with Russia in order to justify the existence of the NATO military alliance, as well as to obtain as much funding from the countries of the alliance as possible. As for Russia, NATO carries a serious threat moving east
    1. gergi
      gergi 22 January 2016 10: 27
      0
      Plus for the arrogant liar.
    2. Lelek
      Lelek 22 January 2016 10: 45
      0
      Quote: kursk87
      The head of the alliance committee, Peter Pavel, is a vile liar!


      Here is a short history of this "kyanukuk" (there was such an Estonian liqueur - translated into Russian "rooster on a tree stump") (click):
  14. askort154
    askort154 22 January 2016 10: 02
    +2
    Themselves slammed the door, raised a squeal all over the world, with the lips of the "Baltic Vmirates", about the inevitable "Russian aggression" in order to transfer offensive weapons to the borders of Russia. Now they began to knock on the same door, because during this time Russia conducted a lot of large-scale exercises without
    NATO "observation". And to show the world how open and peaceful NATO is - invites Russia
    cooperate, and she "breaks down".
  15. varov14
    varov14 22 January 2016 10: 09
    +1
    The best contact for us is the crowds of refugees from Africa and the B. East. The more they will be, the denser the future contact will be.
  16. gergi
    gergi 22 January 2016 10: 23
    +1
    Constant, stable, rotational, and everything in the place is naebalovo. Loshariki these Psheks, do not catch up with the flight of NATO thought.
  17. Papapg
    Papapg 22 January 2016 10: 27
    +2
    Quote: BRUTAL
    Some kind of glamorous general: Hollywood stubble, hair over the ears and neck are not shaved! Ugh, shame, no ensign on him

    This is an artist in disguise, and he has some sort of left gaze. But in fact - we were enemies with them, we are enemies, and I hope that we will remain enemies, I do not want to have such "friends". The trouble is that the former leaders of the country flirted with this bastard. Somehow the demobilization on the remarks of the young lieutenant asked him - what can you do to me, lieutenant? - I don't know what good I can, but I can give a shit full cap, the lieutenant replied. So it's time for us to apply to the NATO cap, and preferably not with our backside.
  18. evge-malyshev
    evge-malyshev 22 January 2016 10: 28
    +1
    The commentators' mood is unanimous. No one "-". I join.
  19. Fonmeg
    Fonmeg 22 January 2016 10: 28
    +1
    “These soldiers represent a kind of advanced presence, the purpose of which is not only to give confidence to our allies on the eastern flank of NATO


    Read: "whose purpose is to give confidence to our allies on EASTERN FRONT NATO..."
  20. surrozh
    surrozh 22 January 2016 10: 40
    0
    "We already represent the first targets for Iskander in Eastern Europe on a permanent basis" - that is more correct.
  21. Aitvaras
    Aitvaras 22 January 2016 10: 57
    -1
    Russia and NATO are strategic opponents. I think very few people have illusions in this. During the Soviet era, comrade. No one in Europe especially disbelieved Brezhnev, except that the local communists, and now in Lithuania, very few people believe in Putin's peaceful statements. I think that minimal contacts are needed, as was the case during the Cold War. As history has shown, they had their positive role.
  22. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 22 January 2016 11: 10
    +2
    give confidence to our allies on the eastern flank of NATO

    Here it is possible to agree that if it were not for the NATO support of sliding pants from the countries of Eastern Europe, then these countries would sit in the bushes and were silent in a handkerchief, afraid to even look unfriendly towards Russia, not to mention constantly puffing her salt. The presence of NATO forces gives them the illusory hope of protection and the ability to protrude chest, which burst due to the lack of a normal skeleton.
  23. belui
    belui 22 January 2016 11: 36
    +3
    I like how you constantly repeat to your slaves that they are allies ... And for the sake of the safety of their allies, they set up bases for them. But the question is why there is no Japanese base in the United States, or why there are no European bases on their territory? That's all the occupying allies.
  24. Taygerus
    Taygerus 22 January 2016 11: 38
    0
    let them go, they themselves know the way, if they forgot history, let them study
  25. Volzhanin
    Volzhanin 22 January 2016 12: 04
    0
    Let's attend. It will be very interesting for us to cover the lands of the geyrops with the corpses of the militaries.
  26. DobryAAH
    DobryAAH 22 January 2016 12: 46
    0
    How is bread and salt prepared to meet their owners? You need to work out 30 pieces of silver. A dream is already so close.
  27. TOR2
    TOR2 22 January 2016 12: 53
    +6
    As for Russia, then, according to Pavel, NATO is making attempts to establish contacts with it, but Moscow does not demonstrate such a desire.

    With an organization that is engaged in the outbreak of military conflicts around the world, there’s nothing to talk about ..
  28. 1536
    1536 22 January 2016 13: 39
    +1
    What are you proud of, "warrior"? By eating, drinking and robbing the poor Slavs living in this "Eastern Europe", or sleeping with Baltic whites? Ham, your name! And if you invade Russia, you will find here fierce hatred and your destruction. Come on, be present further where they cannot kick you out with a kick in the ass, where they cannot kick you into your pig's snout with a boot. But know that this will not always be the case!
    I would distribute leaflets with similar text among NATO members. Let them know that, as they say, not everything is a carnival for the cat, there will be a post!
  29. Leader
    Leader 22 January 2016 14: 48
    +1
    It is necessary to withdraw from all agreements - these pieces of paper are worth nothing and do not regulate anything!
    As the current international situation shows.
    The extra 100-200-300 ICBMs are the best argument in any international dispute.
    Only understanding that even suddenly striking Russia and destroying it will inevitably receive a lethal concentration of radioactive contamination of the entire planet - only this can save the world.
  30. neo1200
    neo1200 22 January 2016 17: 58
    0
    Let them build NATO bases in Eastern Europe, but only these bases will be dwarf. Now the US is "firmly" stuck in the Middle East. So they cannot keep any serious grouping. The armies of the US European allies are military police armies. All this brigade system and high mobility are needed in order to fight the armies of third world countries. They cannot cope with the Russian army. The West is not ready for an open war with Russia.