In the Russian Federation there are tests of anti-tank artillery machine, created on the basis of "Shell"

In the Russian Federation, anti-tank artillery "Robot", developed on the basis of the BTR "Shell", is being tested. RIA News a message from the commander of the airborne troops, Vladimir Shamanov.

BTR "Shell"

"On the basis of the multipurpose armored personnel carrier" Shell, anti-tank artillery machines "Robot" are being tested, medical support vehicles, and RHBZ vehicles, "the commander said at a briefing.

Shamanov refrained from specifying the technical details of the machine.

Last year began the rearmament of the Airborne Forces on the BMD-4M and Shells. Earlier it was reported that before the 2025 g, the paratroopers should receive more than 1,5 thousand BMD-4M and more than 2,5 thousand "Shell".

Help Agency: “BTR-MD" Rakushka "- Russian armored troop-carrier, created at the Volgograd Tractor Plant. The machine has a mass of tons in 13,2 and is armed with two machine guns. The crew consists of two people, and the number of landed 13 people reaches. "Shell" is intended for the transportation of personnel (troops), ammunition, spare parts, fuel and lubricants in the airborne units and marines. "

Comments

[Primus pilus]

I wonder what ATGM put on it.

[gla172]

Maybe Cornet? ... as an option ...

[Inok10]

Quote: gla172

Maybe Cornet? ... as an option ...

.. hardly .. if ATGM .. then I think Chrysanthemum .. all the more on the basis of BMP-3 is already ..

[Olfred]

most likely like a tiger)

[Mareman Vasilich]

Most likely they will put Ukrainians. Cheaper. You release it and all the tanks are fucked up.

[dmi.pris1]

You + for humor .. You can even have one, around the machine as an anti-cumulative screen ...

Quote: Mareman Vasilich

Most likely they will put Ukrainians. Cheaper. You release it and all the tanks are fucked up.

[dmi.pris1]

In any case, it will be indispensable in the Airborne Forces, where the ATGM complex will be swayed by hands.

[mig29mks]

good that they create!

[dchegrinec]

In these tests, all the advantages and disadvantages of new generation machines are demonstrated.

[lysyj bob]

Still confuses the power in the stern. I would like to hear here the opinion of the paratroopers. Thank you ...

[barclay]

I understand that this system will replace the old BTR-RD. It would be nice if the new "Robot" had more automation for aiming, launching, reloading, and other combat work, so that the operator does not shine on the armor as in the old days. Well, the outward calculation also needs to be saved.

[Tusv]

For 79 years no one has attacked us. This is a record. From advertising, to the very point - "such with birds." "Quality has a name." Got used to

[alexander 2]

And Georgia in 2008? Moreover, note the former part of our country.

[Tusv]

And Georgia in 2008? Moreover, note the former part of our country.

They squeezed Abkhazia from Georgia. What did the tie-eaters turn the Olympic base of the Soviet Union

[Ze Kot]

Quote: Tusv

For 79 years no one has attacked us. This is a record. From advertising, to the very point - "such with birds." "Quality has a name." Got used to

And Damansky? Are the provocations constant?

[polite people]

Enemies are already afraid of us. And here also on armored vehicles. Wow horror how much.

[Great-grandfather of Zeus]

But this shell toy-recoil during a salvo-shot will not overturn? And a sau based on an ATV when to wait?

[kam4atka]

He won’t turn it over. He will sit on his belly in front of the salvo)

[wasjasibirjac]

ATGM such returns that require a special chassis? surprised.

[alexander 2]

There are various anti-tank weapons. Including those that do not give returns.

[KVIRTU]

There really is not an artillery complex in mind.
"at the Volgograd Tractor Plant began the development of the" Robot "ATGM (based on the BTR-RD) in 1983"
This is its further development.

[Primus pilus]

Because it’s not a barrel but rocket artillery.

[Great-grandfather of Zeus]

Oh, how it all started, the fools parted. And the fact that it is a simple dishonesty to produce unsuccessful sau-steam them then serve and repair. I just rushes from one extreme to the other.

[KVIRTU]

Well, you again about the guns, self-propelled guns ...
We are talking about the installation on the "Shell" ATGM "Kornet", more precisely ATGM "Kornet-D1", as on the "Tiger-M", for example.
It is a legitimate unification, I do not see any variety.
And the fact that Shamanov called it artillery means that it is necessary.

[Great-grandfather of Zeus]

KVIRTU-do you know the difference between artillery and ATGM? The article says "ARTILERY" and you give me money about fish ...

[barclay]

In the Airborne Forces (and I think not only), anti-tank units (batteries, divisions) are organizationally and regularly related to artillery and are subordinate to the head of artillery units (formations). Specialists and commanders for military units are also trained by artillery schools and trainings. Something like this.

[Normal ok]

Quote: barclay

In the Airborne Forces (and I think not only), anti-tank units (batteries, divisions) are organizationally and regularly related to artillery and are subordinate to the head of artillery units (formations). Specialists and commanders for military units are also trained by artillery schools and trainings. Something like this.

Absolutely right. In our school (OVAKOLU), gunners were trained for the Airborne Forces and for the Marine Corps. And we shot during our studies, at the training grounds, from everything that shoots)) And from guns, and from howitzers, from different BM, from ATGMs and mortars, and even from RPG-7 (in the first year).

[kurs66]

With two L artillery is written))) and the difference between them is huge) ATR is BM anti-tank artillery, well, and artillery is a whole kind of army))) so the difference is huge)

[minus]

Artillery as a type of weapon (a set of weapons) includes guns, howitzers, mortars, recoilless guns, combat vehicles (launchers) of ATGMs and rocket artillery; artillery and rifle ammunition, artillery vehicles - wheeled and tracked tractors, etc .;
So ptur is also artillery)

[Strezhevchanin]

Quote: Great-grandfather of Zeus

ATV based sau when to wait?

What to wait? Go get Hephaestus ....

[Great-grandfather of Zeus]

Strizhevchanin, I didn’t drink with you at Brudershaft, poke your wife, since there’s no more mind, it’s better to be silent, because of a smart sidet.

[Strezhevchanin]

Quote: Great-grandfather of Zeus

I didn’t drink with you at Brudershaft, my wife

So this was a humor joke ....... here I am Niru’s block, ay maladez !!! Excuse me, please.
As far as I remember in Russia, YOU communicated with very good people, but didn’t you talk to those close in status, or did I catch something wrong? I would talk normally with you, but my finger occupies 1/5 of the screen of the smartphone, which greatly complicates the writing and leads to a large number of grammatical errors.

[kurs66]

When firing, the petro uses a jet stream and not the pressure force of the burnt powder gases, it’s like shooting with an RPG, so it won’t turn it over, another question is how much BC it will have and what caliber ??? For such a chassis, the chrysanthemum seems too big ...

[VNP1958PVN]

Put "Bradley" next to it and be surprised! I think even very much!

[alexander 2]

Put, and what? And according to the performance characteristics it is generally cars of different classes. Yes, and we have more modifications than amers.

[barclay]

Quote: Great-grandfather of Zeus

But this shell toy-recoil during a salvo-shot will not overturn? And a sau based on an ATV when to wait?

Dear, here we are talking about firing ATGMs. First, see what it is, at least on Wikipedia.
A good idea with an ATV. Of course, not self-propelled guns, but it is very possible to deliver an AGS. Very mobile firing point will work.

[kosopooz77]

Mortars on ATVs carry paratroopers

[Great-grandfather of Zeus]

barklay- this is an anti-tank guided missile system, right? and what-my all that can be turned into carriers of anti-tank systems, what's the point? you are not confused now on which base, "cornet", how many modifications of it? it is in my opinion stupid to put an anti-tank gun on everything in a row, besides, if you also hang armor on the shell so that it can "survive" on the battlefield, then this box will lose both speed and maneuverability and turn into an easy target. pardon is a very easy target.

[barclay]

and what is all that can be turned into a carrier of ptura, but what is the point?
The point here is that the Airborne Forces must have its own anti-tank complex at the airborne base. "Shell" and created with the possibility of its modifications for various purposes of combat support. The article also states:
"On the basis of the multipurpose armored personnel carrier" Shell, anti-tank artillery machines "Robot" are being tested, medical support vehicles, and RHBZ vehicles, "the commander said at a briefing.
And at the expense of strengthening the armor, you are right. But I think that with the modern approach, this problem will be solved by hanging reinforcements from special composite blocks on the armor as on the "Armata" and its modifications. Which can also be parachuted, but in separate sets. (It's my personal opinion)

[Great-grandfather of Zeus]

barclay1-show me in the article the place where it is indicated that the shell will be converted to ptrk !!!! these are your speculations !!!!!!!

[barclay]

My answer to you is this:
In the Russian Federation, anti-tank artillery "Robot", developed on the basis of the armored personnel carrier "Shell", is being tested, RIA Novosti reports the message of Airborne Commander Vladimir Shamanov.
The abbreviation "Robot" means that this system is likely to replace the old BTR-RD, which is also called "Robot".
Details: BTR-RD "Robot" - a tank destroyer with 2 ATGM 9M111 "Fagot" (ammunition - 12 ATGM 9M111 "Fagot" or 9M113 "Competition". This is one of the modifications of the base BTR-D.
I began serving on them as a lieutenant - the commander of an anti-tank platoon on BTR-RD.

[lysyj bob]

"Earlier it was reported that by 2025 the paratroopers should receive more than 1,5 thousand BMD-4M and over 2,5 thousand Shells."


This is what will be the number of airborne troops? ..

[alexander 2]

It will be such as not to worry about someone attacking us.

[shans2]

70 thousand, began to expand from 35 thousand. When Serdyukov neutered.

[Primus pilus]

Quote: VNP1958PVN

Put "Bradley" next to it and be surprised! I think even very much!

In a Shell common with Bradley, it is only the presence of a caterpillar mover.

[Kaiten]

Quote: Primus Pilus

In a Shell common with Bradley, it is only the presence of a caterpillar mover.

Most likely not Bradley, M-113

[Lemon1972]

So a gun or ATGM? Maybe something recoilless?

[Airborne Major]

Quote: dmi.pris

In any case, it will be indispensable in the Airborne Forces, where the ATGM complex will be swayed by hands.

In the Airborne Forces, anti-tank installations and missiles for them have ceased to be carried on hand since the adoption of the BMD-1 and BTR-D airborne forces of the USSR. The kit of each BMD includes a standard ATGM installation. And on the basis of the BTR-D, the BTR-RD (Robot) was created as a specialized vehicle for the anti-tank batteries of parachute regiments and anti-tank battalions art. regiments of the Airborne Divisions. The shell is a continuation of the old "Robot" project. The first "Robots" were equipped with the "Fagot" and "Konkurs" ATGMs.

[Cympak]

Why Cornet?
Fashionable and promoted?
"Chrysanthemum" and "attack" are at least supersonic, can be controlled like the "Cornet" in a laser beam, and also have a version with radio command control, which makes it possible to use them in adverse weather conditions.
The "Kornet" has only one plus: it can be removed from the vehicle and placed separately, which increases the vehicle's survivability. But, unlike the Belarusians, we did not guess to make the remote control of the launcher. The calculation should lie next to the launcher and, apparently, wait for the "response" to arrive. This is taking into account that the auto-tracking mechanism has been implemented. Not finished thinking, in a word. :(
We need a new ATGM with the ability to "fire and forget", attacking the target from above, preferably with the possibility of reconnaissance of the target in flight and re-aiming.

[rotor]

The Robot anti-tank artillery vehicle is being tested on the basis of the Shell multipurpose armored personnel carrier

It is not clear why to call a robot a Robot, some kind of tautology.

And of course it’s great to create a combat robot on the basis of armored personnel carriers.

[rotor]

So far, only a BMP fire support robot The strike is based on the BMP-3 chassis

[Zomanus]

In short, the "Shell" is used as a base for a ruler
machines for various purposes.
Well, in general, the rules ...