A representative of the Navy has denied the information about the termination of the construction of diesel-electric submarines "Lada"

The question of closing the project of diesel-electric submarines "Lada" (project 677) today is not on the agenda, reports RIA News message of the representative of the Navy Igor Dygalo.

We will remind, earlier in the media there were reports about the termination of the construction of diesel-electric submarines "Lada" and the direction of funding for the improved project "Kalina".

“This question (on the termination of the construction of the Lada submarines) did not even make a reservation at the command level or at the command level of industry. Two more Lada are being built and are at different stages. On the basis of the experimental operation of the first Lada submarine St. Petersburg, we will form the need for these boats ... That is, the construction was not stopped, ”

declared Dygalo.

Help agency: "The head submarine project 677" St. Petersburg "was laid in 1997 year, launched in 2004 year and is in trial operation of the Navy with 2010 year. The ship's displacement is 1765 tons, the maximum depth of diving is 300 meters, the crew of 35 is a man, autonomy is up to 45 days, armed with torpedoes of a caliber 533 millimeter and rocket-torpedoes. ”

Comments

[Vladimirets]

A day before:
“The command of the fleet has decided to finish building two boats of Project 677 Lada and stop construction there. All three boats of this project will be included in the combat composition of the Baltic Fleet. Funding will be directed to the Kalina project, ”an unnamed naval representative told the agency.
An unnamed representative, was it a boatswain with PSKR 407?

[domokl]

You just have to look who the author of that article is))) I was also surprised today when I found out on the site that there were not even any conversations .. Three boats will be in the BF. One is already there and two will be completed

[g1v2]

In principle, the source’s statement was quite logical, it could very well be true. The officials reported about the construction of Warsaw women for Pacific Fleet, but they wanted to build the frets there. We wait and see. It is possible that all this should be understood as follows - we want to cancel, but have not yet decided completely.

[Boa kaa]

Quote: g1v2

The officials reported about the construction of Warsaw women for Pacific Fleet, but they wanted to build the frets there.

Colleagues! Please pay attention to a number of design features of the 677 project. Displacement 1,7kt, only 35 people. crew, "ears", a developed system of g / a detectors, the composition of weapons (torpedoes and r / torpedoes), and anti-ship missiles and anti-ballistic missiles are not mentioned. This all points to the ship's anti-submarine specialization. And this, apparently, explains Lada's "internship" at the Northern Fleet, in conditions of low temperatures and sludge. After all, they will have to provide anti-submarine support for the deployment of the SF SNF under the cap, PLO-protection of the SF SNF bases and the fleet as a whole.
I could be wrong, but everything points to just that.
Best regards,

[g1v2]

An option of course, but I don’t think ours will create clean anti-submarine submarines. Now, on the contrary, even torpedo apls are being upgraded to calibers so that they can hit ships and along the coast. When there are fewer ships than we would like, they try to make each new one more universal. I think that the frets will still be multi-purpose, but with serious capabilities to counter enemy submarines.

[Alex777]

Encrypted. Lobbying.

[dmitrich]

Quote: Vladimirets

An unnamed representative, was it a boatswain with PSKR 407?

the boatswain is not a boatswain, but a govnetsa at the address of the Defense Ministry turned out pretty well!

[sa-ag]

Well now, obviously, they will do stirling, like on Sorya, and Lada will be with fuel cells

[Inok10]

Quote: sa-ag

Well now, obviously, they will do stirling, like on Sorya, and Lada will be with fuel cells

.. just do not stirling .. and still carry LNG and liquid oxygen .. brrrr ..

[Inok10]

.. here is the whole "beauty of the technical solution" .. two additional mechanical devices and two tanks with gases .. and still keep the gas storage and oxygen plant on the shore .. God save us from such innovations ..

[aleks 62 next]

..... here is the whole "beauty of a technical solution" .. two additional mechanical devices and two tanks with gases .. and still keep the gas storage and oxygen plant on the shore .. God save us from such innovations .. ..


.... Well, yes ..... Almost "Kaiten" ....

[sa-ag]

Quote: Inok10

and carry LNG and liquid oxygen with you .. brrrr

oxygen, CNG, oil, and compressed to 200 atmospheres hydrogen in stirling :-)

[domokl]

Sterling only on steam engines is good. Although yups in my 6 boats go to them

[domokl]

Quote: sa-ag

they will do stirling, like on Sorya

In those assignment to Kalina, it is clearly stated that without all these sterling ... So there will be something else

[Reducer]

- Frets! We will finish building and we won’t!
- And we will build "LADA"!

RICH AND MIGHT!

[domokl]

It’s a bit easier. One boat is already in trials. Two on completion. And that’s it. Next will be viburnum

[your1970]

from 2010 of the year and everything is on trial ????
and from 2004 to 2010 the year of what she did was watermelons drove to the North or what ???

[Reducer]

As you call a ship, it will sail (in this case, go?) H. Vrungel.

[user]

and from 2004 to 2010 what did you do — feel watermelons to the North or something ???

Suddenly remembered.
In the late 90s, Prokhorov (the one who distinguished himself in Courchevel) offered potatoes and products to be transported to the nuclear submarines, instead of to the northern delivery, to Dudinka and Igarka. Moreover, the boat surfaced and something there through the loading hatch they tried to unload onto the shore (at the mouth of the Yenisei, where you don’t remember exactly right away). They showed a detailed report on television, interviews with the crew, explained economic prospects and more, and the former leader of the Civil Platform was in the foreground (they then saw with Potanin Nornickel well, of course, they made people understandable). True, the crew, in my opinion, was stunned and hushed from such a perspective.
And you say watermelons

[gladysheff2010]

We will remind, earlier in the media there were reports about the termination of the construction of diesel-electric submarines "Lada" and the direction of funding for the improved project "Kalina".
It seems that an unnamed representative of the Navy decided to beat the VAZ models in relation to the Navy (Cossack?) .

[Reducer]

Aha! Remember the anecdote: the devil sat down in the "Kalina fret" and crossed himself!)))

[Nikolay71]

We will, we will not. Some kind of daisy.

[clidon]

But because now no one knows for sure. Projects will understandably shrink - the long-suffering Lada is one of the likely candidates. But there is no solution yet.

[domokl]

Everything is clear already. I wrote an official on this topic above. And rumors spread from Ishchenko’s article, in my opinion. Yesterday, he flooded boats right at the shipyard

[DenZ]

We will, we will not. Some daisy

Exhausting a probable opponent with desa

[barclay]

It seems that at the headquarters of the Navy there is no consensus, to say the least.

[Old warrant officer]

Quote: sa-ag

Well now, obviously, they will do stirling, like on Sorya, and Lada will be with fuel cells

If only Stirling dough did not!

[Reducer]

"Stirling dough" is a masterpiece !!!

[Great-grandfather of Zeus]

In a couple of days they will again announce that they decided not to build the "frets", and in a couple of days after that they will refute their statements, seemingly the fourth Friday of the week went to people.

[Corsair0304]

I hope that the "Lada" will still be brought to mind and it will shine no worse than the same "Armata" for the joy of us and woe to the foe.
Still, a good project for the sea-okiyana. More sea, of course, for example, the Baltic or the Black or Okhotsk-Japanese.

[Stirbjorn]

In fact, they will not build anyway. Only those that are already in the process will be completed. But Varshavyanka will be built for the Pacific Fleet, although Lada belongs to the 4th generation, formally, and Warsawyanka to the 3rd generation. And taking into account how here, recently, Tryapichnikov praised Lada in front of the Varshavyanki, we can conclude that the project is still closed. Otherwise, what is the point of laying outdated submarines when there are some good Frets. And by the 20th year with the Kalina and VNEU the situation will become clear

[evge-malyshev]

What kind of inconsistency in the presentation of information by different "representatives" of the Navy: under construction, not under construction, modernized, not modernized?
Distributors of "sensational" (unverified) information should be held accountable !!! And then I heard a ringing, but does not know where he is. But all the same: there, there, there ...

[epsilon571]

Great-grandfather of Zeus RU Today
In a couple of days, they will again announce that they decided not to build the "frets", and a couple of days after that they will refute their statements, seemingly the fourth Friday of the week went to people.

The resources of the Reserve Fund of Russia, which is now used as an improvised material for plugging financial holes in the bottom of the Russian economy, will not last long. In simple terms, another year or two of such an economy and we will have to go into debt, or, as it was already in the lean years, to deal with the sale of property. To enter a new trajectory of growth, structural reforms are required, competent specialists in all sectors are needed, and the desire and will to win is also needed! I don’t know what our leaders will say in a couple of days (their lies have long passed the limits of what is permissible), but projects will continue to decline because - "Money in the morning, chairs in the evening"!

[g1v2]

Actually, in the two reserve funds, as it was 150 billion dollars (70 and 80 according to the GDP), SO LIES. And information that seriously got into them has not been reported. That is, they have not yet begun to spend them. But the Central Bank said, by the way, that it was going to increase its reserves to $ 500 billion in a couple of years and was actively buying gold - in 2015, about 200 tons were bought. When do you have no money you buy gold? I doubt it. And any politician can push for hours on end the beautiful slogans about structural reforms, modernizations, high-tech industries and the raw material needle and other common things - this is not taken seriously by anyone.

[clidon]

In all the reserves of the Central Bank, there are now about 364 billion dollars, and it is from them that the 2016 budget deficit will be extinguished. Gold is bought for one simple reason - it is bought from its own producer at a preferential state price, since you do not want to throw it out to the market when it is cheaper (gold). Like platinum itself. Well, not 200 tons not for 2015, but for the last two years. However, metal does not make up any significant share in gold reserves - we have a total of gold worth $ 45 billion.

In 2008, gold reserves amounted to almost 600 billion dollars ...

[samoletil18]

Well "Kalina", okay. And for export "Lada" can not be finished, or what?

[Vladimir 1964]

Funny, in a topic like "one woman said," and how many pluses and minuses have been earned on this topic.

[jonht]

Apparently, during the trial operation, many small jambs got out, that they decided not to redo the project, but to make up a new one with the introduction of changes from the operating experience of the "St. Petersburg". In any case, there was information about problems with weapons on the Ladakh, and the VNEU was never brought to the required characteristics. Consequently, the project did not become more perfect for the same "Varshavyanka" buildings, which were built by the plant in 2 years. The boats are needed now, not in 10 years.