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What can we talk about with the people of Germany?

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It is with the inhabitants of Germany, and not with the Germans. In Germany, besides the indigenous inhabitants, there are still a lot of other nations and nationalities, including our former compatriots. Throughout the time that has passed since the time of the well-known events in Cologne, Stuttgart, Hamburg, I very intensely sought contacts in Germany. I wanted to talk, especially with the residents of these cities. And besides Krener, who lives quite far from the scene, I didn’t have friends there anymore.


But friends helped and brought to the former Russians, now citizens of Germany. Residents of Hamburg and Leipzig. And throughout the week I tried hard to talk about what is happening today in Germany and how life is there in general.

Tried - this is because it really did not work out for me. To be honest, I planned to make several blitz-interviews, on the basis of which one could draw some conclusions on the topic of what the Germans breathe today. Well, let the Germans be for short.

However, it was a great surprise for me that with Germans you can speak or write far from everything.

So what can you talk to the German?

About taxes. Everyone speaks about taxes with pleasure and in details. Indeed, the theme for the Germans is not that sick, but any German will complain long and fervently about how much he unfastens in this regard. I found out that medical insurance is 15,8%, pension - 20%, insurance in case of dismissal - 2,8%, insurance in case of incapacity for work - 2,4%. The numbers are pretty, but all this is paid by the employee and the employer in half.

In general, in Germany, each of its residents pays from their salary to 50%. And also taxes on car, real estate, church (!!!), help from East Germany. It seems that in this country taxes are imposed not only on everything that moves or moves, but also on the fact that it sits quietly in the mud.

About this the Germans speak with pleasure. Especially about church tax. Because of this tax, the church loses its importance and weight every year, as any burgher is able to calculate the number of his 10-50 euros per month.

You can talk about beer, what is better, Mercedes or Audi, where it is better to come as a tourist, how much is a week at Oktoberfest. How well you can improve your health in German clinics.

But God forbid to talk about problems with migrants. Or ask the German opinion about the police (in the light of recent events) or about the Bundeswehr. Or how the Germans relate to the problem of sexual minorities.

Full stop, rounded eyes. And unwillingness to continue further conversation. I was not warned on which topic you can ask questions, and on which not. And during the conversation, he repeatedly shocked his interlocutors. Well, as if I am the smallest and do not quite a decent offer. More precisely, quite obscene.

Fear. This is the most accurate definition of what drives the Germans in this regard. All my interlocutors and the interlocutor were in full confidence that the special services were listening to our conversation. It does not matter whose. FSB clearly did not scare them. But two of the three conversations were crumpled and stopped with the note "Let's agree on it some other time." When I complained in passing to his last interlocutor, Eugene, he looked at me as if he was sick. “And what did you want? Here, dear, Europe. Here is order. This is not Russia, where you can hang your“ fairy ”at every corner. And to my accurate objections on the topic “What about freedom and democracy” quite weighty said the following: “Yes, we have a decent free democratic social state. Do not be confused ... with anarchy and mess. We have order. In general, you need to live here for years 5-10, to understand everything. Immediately it does not work out ".

Order ... "Everything must be in order." Yes, I am familiar with this phrase in Germany phrase. The Germans are accustomed to the established procedures and they are happy to follow them. The whole country. And there is nothing worse for a German than not to comply with the established procedures.

But now other times have come. And the Germans really were not ready for them. Purely in Russian. In the courtyard of badabum universal scale, but we are not ready. But, if the Russians each time, when they covered almost with their heads, they all the same swam, then the Germans got harder. And my interlocutor Eugene has been very actively looking east lately. And what? Children grew up, parents who initiated resettlement to historical homeland, already resting in German soil, business due to sanctions actually dies.

Once it seemed to them that Germany was a fabulous country of unreal possibilities. Well, not all of the tale becomes true. Yes, the welfare state is beautiful. I understood this from the stories of my interlocutors. German medicine and the insurance system are really fabulous and luxurious. But ... there are now some "but" that overpower many of the advantages of modern Germany.

Fear. No, not the fear of losing your job or business. "Yes, to hell with him, with the business, I will return to Russia, I will turn around again. Pigs are pigs everywhere." Eugene - hereditary piggy class. And scraping the knife. And considering that he is in Germany, that in Russia before retirement is still at least 9 years old, he is relatively calm for himself. Apparently, there is something to turn around again.

Security is what worries everyone today. New Year's events showed complete helplessness of both the authorities and the security forces of Germany in the event of a repetition of such events. Of course, not everyone there is sure that events will repeat. There are exceptions. But the majority understand that the New Year's Eve is a certain Rubicon, which Germany has passed. And whether there will be a way back, and how quiet and calm it is, there is no certainty for the majority of them.

It was very unpleasant to me to feel like a stone thrown into a quiet pool and made a wave. The real concern that I actually caused to strangers left some residue. But if you choose between the order, when it becomes scary from the question asked by the interlocutor, and the anarchic mess, when you can discuss such questions not only in conversation, but how are we doing here, on our pages, I am definitely a mess.

So with the Germans have something to talk about. But not about politics and freedom.
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  1. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 21 January 2016 10: 53 New
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    So what can you talk to the German?
    how did you get to that, Germans? Siegfried's descendants damn ...
    1. vlad66
      vlad66 21 January 2016 10: 57 New
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      Here, honey, Europe. Here is order. This is not Russia, where you can hang your "fairy" on every corner.

      To each his own, let them enjoy this order themselves.
      1. St Petrov
        St Petrov 21 January 2016 11: 01 New
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        The main thing that we did not happen. I think everyone saw these shots.

        1. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 21 January 2016 11: 30 New
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          Quote: c-Petrov
          The main thing that we did not happen. I think everyone saw these shots.


          The question arises by itself - who is to blame? Is religion bad? Are people like that? The authorities failed to organize?

          And on Christian holidays or on Jewish or on whose else in Moscow it happens? And they cut rams on the street for Easter and then hang ram heads on fences?

          The answer is obvious - whatever and whose holiday it is - the Law should be OVER the holidays. And who would then whimper about the violation of the rights of believers. Cops from the cordon can’t hold back the crowd - put the Beters in a chain. There are few bathers - water cannons and gas. They don’t understand water cannons - to shoot. First, order and the notion that people also live around, that you do not live in aul according to the laws of the mountains, but in a SOCIETY according to the laws of SOCIETY, and then all religions combined, then "Allahakbar" and "Lord have mercy".

          I once wrote here, as I saw on TV the shooting of French journalists. They stuck on the street to a girl of 14-15 years old in a hijab and say that, like, the law came out, in a hijab, like, in a public place it’s impossible. And she answered them that she nevermind - she lives not according to French laws, but according to the laws of Allah. This is where religious extremism begins.

          I’m on the drum, who believes in what - who is in Allah, who is in Jesus, who is in Zarathustra or Buddha - even though they believe in a donkey's ass. A personal matter for everyone. And let the temples of all religions build beautiful, and pray to their gods, let them in them. But when someone says that his god is bad, and the rest are wrong, when someone says that for the sake of his god he is ready to spit on everyone else and cut some "infidels" - this is extremism and my hand involuntarily starts looking for familiar steel to the right side ...
          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana 21 January 2016 11: 46 New
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            From the text of the article
            with the Germans there is something to talk about. But not about politics and freedom.

            That for Germans there is no political freedom in Germany, I came across already 15 years ago. A German acquaintance came from Germany and terribly wanted to stay in Russia. He said that Russia compared to Germany is just a super-free country! (By the way, the Americans told me the same thing about Russia as compared to the USA.) He remained to live in Russia. I remember that he was struck by the fact that in Russia many young people know a lot about Germany. For example, even then I read "Mein Kampf", Alfred Rosenberg and others, books by German authors about Hitler, about the history of the Gestapo, etc. He was horrified at first! And he told me that in Germany about it - No, no! You’ll ruin your whole career if you don’t go to jail.

            I really liked the article. Everything is true.
            It is written well, interestingly.

            To author +
            1. iConst
              iConst 21 January 2016 13: 02 New
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              Quote: Tatiana
              From the text of the article
              with the Germans there is something to talk about. But not about politics and freedom.

              That for the Germans there is no political freedom in Germany, I ran into it about 15 years ago. A German acquaintance came from Germany and terribly wanted to stay in Russia. He said that Russia compared to Germany is just a super-free country! (By the way, the Americans told me the same thing about Russia as compared to the USA.) He remained to live in Russia. I remember that he was struck by the fact that in Russia many young people know a lot about Germany. For example, even then I read "Mein Kampf", Alfred Rosenberg and others, books by German authors about Hitler, about the history of the Gestapo, etc. He was horrified at first! And he told me that in Germany about it - No, no! You’ll ruin your whole career if you don’t go to jail.

              I really liked the article. Everything is true.
              It is written well, interestingly.

              To author +
              - So I'm not sure what the question is
              exactly so (see highlighted).

              And, if you invite the Germans to live in Russia enough to understand the essence of what is happening, then, I think, many would say: in Russia there is much more freedom than in Germany and other European countries.
              But! When asked where there is "more" democracy - I'm not sure what they would say about Russia. Well, and of course the famous "das ordnung", which we do not have in sight.

              Freedom = Permissiveness? Most will say no. Where are the frames?

              Therefore, before talking about the subject, it would be nice to discuss first the criteria for determining the subject of discussion.

              All the problems from this are democracy, we and they each understand in their own way.
              1. zennon
                zennon 21 January 2016 20: 04 New
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                Quote: iConst
                All the problems from this are democracy, we and they each understand in their own way.

                What is freedom, I understand. What is democracy, no. That is, in theory, everything is clear - "people" and "power", everything is in a Christmas tree. But where did you see it, this power of the people? How can you ask everyone about everything? How we manipulated public opinion, we remember well. Remember how Yeltsin climbed in the ass without soap? What is he the first secretary of the Sverdlovsk Regional Committee of the CPSU, a member of the Central Committee of the CPSU, a fighter against communism. They brought him into the presidency! Then they spat for a long time ... So well, her, d.e. r.m. o. kratiya where to go, to not a good mother ...
                1. Temples
                  Temples 22 January 2016 09: 31 New
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                  The answer is obvious - whatever and whose holiday it is - the Law should be OVER the holidays. And who would then whimper about the violation of the rights of believers. Cops from the cordon can’t hold back the crowd - put the Beters in a chain. There are few bathers - water cannons and gas. They don’t understand water cannons - to shoot.

                  Whose law is over the holidays?
                  The law adopted by a handful of people imagining themselves elite?
                  Is there a law forbidding to celebrate ???

                  Holidays are the customs of our ancestors.
                  10 commandments for you is not the law?

                  So if people follow these 10 commandments, then the desire to kill those who celebrate is decreasing.

                  Do not interfere with a bunch of holidays (especially religious) and rallies of rabid disagreements.

                  Believers do not whine. If you whine with anger yourself, these are your problems.
          2. GRAY
            GRAY 21 January 2016 12: 23 New
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            Quote: Zoldat_A
            The question arises by itself - who is to blame? Is religion bad? Are people like that? The authorities failed to organize?

            What can be organized there? There was a crush there and not riots, each believer considered it his duty to get into the just-opened Cathedral Mosque, no one expected such an influx.
            BTR-s put, oh, so that they surely crushed each other there (I won’t even comment on water cannons and gas).
            1. Corsair
              Corsair 21 January 2016 12: 54 New
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              Quote: GRAY
              What can be organized there? There was a crush there and not riots, each believer considered it his duty to get into the just-opened Cathedral Mosque, no one expected such an influx.
              BTR-s put, oh, so that they surely crushed each other there (I won’t even comment on water cannons and gas).

              what I would suggest that these festivities not be held in large cathedrals, mosques and other religious institutions in the densely populated central parts of cities. To build these temples around cities in transport accessibility with areas for these actions, with parking lots, with dining rooms, etc. So no, give them in the city center, and even try to eat fatter places and grab a piece of the park zone.
              In our St. Petersburg, Cyrilushka wanted Isaky to tidy up his hands, so to speak for divine services, but the governor defended well, and another one would come more accommodatingly and that’s all.
              1. GRAY
                GRAY 21 January 2016 13: 17 New
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                Quote: Corsair
                I would suggest not holding these festivities in large cathedrals, mosques and other religious institutions in the densely populated central parts of cities.

                This is unrealistic, it seems to me. Just next time the number of people will be taken into account correctly and that’s all.

                Quote: Corsair
                So no, give them in the city center, and even try to eat fatter places and grab a piece of the park zone.

                Speaking specifically about this mosque, it has been there since 1904, and even in Soviet times it was active. She was rebuilt, while shouting on TV how everything is now drop dead and, in the appendage, dragged the hair of the Prophet Muhammad there. Because of this, there was a full house and the number of believers exceeded the estimated.
                Quote: Corsair
                In our St. Petersburg, Cyrilushka wanted Isaky to tidy up his hands, so to speak for divine services, but the governor defended well, and another one would come more accommodatingly and that’s all.

                The governor has no right to resolve such issues; cultural monuments are under the jurisdiction of the Ministry of Culture.
                1. Corsair
                  Corsair 21 January 2016 15: 35 New
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                  Quote: GRAY
                  The governor has no right to resolve such issues; cultural monuments are under the jurisdiction of the Ministry of Culture.

                  He coordinated this action with the Ministry of Culture. In St. Petersburg, many churches are cultural monuments. Only here and at home the old ones are demolished in a quiet manner and high reliefs are broken, and shopping centers are being built in the historical and memorable places of the city.
                  About mosques, as well as other churches - in cities with millionaires - even taking into account all kinds of calculations, there may be a crush on the street or in the metro, there will be victims, among other things, serious congestion due to the closure of many streets.
                  Car enthusiasts will suffer a day, of course, although most eccentrics will go by car on that day, but what about the Ambulance or the Ministry of Emergencies? Bypass often often do not move and stand deaf.
              2. Zoldat_A
                Zoldat_A 21 January 2016 17: 03 New
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                Quote: Corsair
                We have in St. Petersburg Kirillushka Isaac wanted to tidy up his hands, for divine services, so to speak, but the governor defended well, and the other will come more accommodating and that’s all.

                And on TV they said it was like that. The current temple and the Foucault pendulum were removed. And upstairs, to the gallery, they’re not allowed ... Where is the truth, Leningraders?

                I was in St. Isaac's Cathedral 2 times - this is not a church! This is a miracle that should belong to ALL, and not the Russian Orthodox Church ... Although I have nothing against beautiful churches, synagogues and mosques ...
                1. GRAY
                  GRAY 21 January 2016 19: 04 New
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                  Quote: Zoldat_A
                  Foucault's pendulum removed

                  I did not hear about the transfer, and the pendulum was removed in the early 90s, I was there in the 90th - I still found it.
                  They are not allowed to enter the colonnade because it is not a season. It is open to visitors from May to October inclusive.

                  Py.Sy.
                  I am not a Leningrader if what.
                  1. Zoldat_A
                    Zoldat_A 21 January 2016 22: 05 New
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                    Quote: GRAY
                    I did not hear about the transfer, and the pendulum was removed in the early 90s, I was there in the 90th - I still found it.
                    They are not allowed to enter the colonnade because it is not a season. It is open to visitors from May to October inclusive.

                    I was last in 1985 or 86th. After the New Year, in January. They climbed the colonnade. Then they let them in the winter. The gains of socialism? laughing A total of 2 times was in Leningrad a month. Fell in love with the city for life.
                2. Corsair
                  Corsair 22 January 2016 13: 25 New
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                  Quote: Zoldat_A
                  I was last in 1985 or 86th. After the New Year, in January. They climbed the colonnade. Then they let them in the winter.

                  Her, now they’re not letting me go in the winter, all the more there are some restoration work going on there now. In the summer, please.
                  Isaac is a working monument, and the really functioning Orthodox churches in the center are Kazan Cathedral, Transfiguration and Vladimir.

                  St. Isaac's Cathedral is really a miracle, and given its construction from an engineering point of view and the transportation of materials - a miracle of miracles.
            2. Zoldat_A
              Zoldat_A 21 January 2016 16: 55 New
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              Quote: GRAY
              What can be organized there? There was a crush there and not riots, each faithful considered it his duty to get into the just-opened Cathedral Mosque, no one expected such an influx.

              You can organize anything you want. You just need to direct the crowd in the right direction. Barriers and cordon - true thought, but weak. We need barriers that cannot be demolished. What is needed is not a crowd, but an organized queue (spit, at least as long as Ryazan!). We need places for gathering people (large areas, not crowded streets) and at a great distance from the place of the event so that it is possible to control the flow (queue). It is difficult to hold the crowd, it must be dissected at the stage of formation.

              These are common truths that we have taught separate units of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the KGB and the army interact with the crowd back in the 60s. Even the training manual was special, a finger thick. Naturally, "sov.sec." And it is natural that how many cases there were in the last 50 years to take advantage of what was written in that clever manual, so many times were not used. Normally. Therefore, each time they crawled out of such a situation somehow with broken cops and army bones ...
          3. avva2012
            avva2012 21 January 2016 12: 36 New
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            The answer is obvious - whatever and whose holiday it is - the Law should be OVER the holidays.
            Well, it’s interesting, but they say a religious state in Iran.
            It turns out, somehow, in the "civilized" world, you can't understand what. And religion does not dominate (officially), and the law (not officially) also. Sheer obscenity of some kind. And, here in Iran, both the law and religion, and everything is clear to citizens. So, I want to ask, where is civilization really?
            Of course, I do not call for anything. Over the past century, there are many people who do not believe in anything. And a return to the clerical, theocratic state in Europe is not possible. But what is happening in Europe doesn’t climb into any gates.
            1. Zoldat_A
              Zoldat_A 21 January 2016 20: 23 New
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              Quote: avva2012
              And religion does not dominate (officially), and the law (not officially) either. A complete indecency of some kind. And, here in Iran, both law and religion, and everything is clear to citizens. So, I want to ask, where is civilization really?

              I specially make a reservation that I’m not campaigning for anyone and I’m not promoting anything. Exclusively my point of view.

              The less knowledge (science), the more religion. We must somehow explain to the people where the sun came from and why it rains. Therefore, on the issue of civilization, for me personally, a society without hijabs and haram personally wins. But this does not mean at all that you need to become like a beast and walk the streets naked, enter into same-sex marriages, prohibit the words "dad" and "mom".

              There must be a measure in everything, and it is necessary that freedom does not turn into licentiousness and permissiveness. So that "such" boys do not roam the streets, so that they do not propagate their asses on TV, so that there are no thieves who sell our and our great-grandchildren's property for a penny for their hundred-meter yachts and imported football clubs.

              In short, I will now begin to list everything "so that" - we will get socialism ... sad

              In any case, religion should be a voluntary and individual matter. I, an atheist, do not need to constantly poke "Allahakbar" or "Lord have mercy" in my face. Let the believers treat me with the same respect I have for their faith. There are temples of different religions - I like to look at beautiful buildings. But you do not need to force me to live halal or sing in a church choir. I’m not stopping them from doing this ...

              That's when EVERYTHING in society will respect the faith or unbelief of others - then civilization. And I consider any religious state to be backward by definition.
          4. miru mir
            miru mir 21 January 2016 16: 17 New
            +3
            This is the main reason for almost all current conflicts.
          5. cap
            cap 22 January 2016 05: 31 New
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            Quote: Zoldat_A
            Quote: c-Petrov
            The main thing that we did not happen. I think everyone saw these shots.


            The question arises by itself - who is to blame? Is religion bad? Are people like that? The authorities failed to organize?

            And on Christian holidays or on Jewish or on whose else in Moscow it happens? And they cut rams on the street for Easter and then hang ram heads on fences?

            The answer is obvious - whatever and whose holiday it is - the Law should be OVER the holidays. And who would then whimper about the violation of the rights of believers. Cops from the cordon can’t hold back the crowd - put the Beters in a chain. There are few bathers - water cannons and gas. They don’t understand water cannons - to shoot. First, order and the notion that people also live around, that you do not live in aul according to the laws of the mountains, but in a SOCIETY according to the laws of SOCIETY, and then all religions combined, then "Allahakbar" and "Lord have mercy".

            I once wrote here, as I saw on TV the shooting of French journalists. They stuck on the street to a girl of 14-15 years old in a hijab and say that, like, the law came out, in a hijab, like, in a public place it’s impossible. And she answered them that she nevermind - she lives not according to French laws, but according to the laws of Allah. This is where religious extremism begins.

            I’m on the drum, who believes in what - who is in Allah, who is in Jesus, who is in Zarathustra or Buddha - even though they believe in a donkey's ass. A personal matter for everyone. And let the temples of all religions build beautiful, and pray to their gods, let them in them. But when someone says that his god is bad, and the rest are wrong, when someone says that for the sake of his god he is ready to spit on everyone else and cut some "infidels" - this is extremism and my hand involuntarily starts looking for familiar steel to the right side ...


            "- even let them believe in a donkey's ass." Besides, I agree with everything.
            Yes, even steel is not necessary. Steel is springy. A good property when not on your forehead. hi That is, in our Russian forehead.
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        3. Riv
          Riv 21 January 2016 15: 17 New
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          That's the joke: there is a cordon. Next time it will be strengthened. It will be necessary - they will drive up an armored personnel carrier and machine guns will be directed at this crowd. It will be necessary - the Marine Corps and the VKS will visit them in the country of origin. THESE ARE KEEPING FOR CURING. The fact that once in a single city it was broken through is not an indicator.

          This is despite the fact that our Chechens and Azerbaijanis, compared with the Iranians and Syrians, are the bearers of culture and civilization.
      2. Dembel77
        Dembel77 21 January 2016 11: 01 New
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        Everything flows - everything changes. Now in Germany (!) It will be so ...
        1. Major Yurik
          Major Yurik 21 January 2016 11: 19 New
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          Mdya, I wonder how long the bulk wound, if he lived in Germany? Weaned to answer for the bazaar, but it’s a pity, it was a good habit, starting with a duel and ending with a jail for slander! am
        2. bocsman
          bocsman 21 January 2016 11: 20 New
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          Berlin is not Moscow. So retreat. The main thing that I understood when I was in Germany is that everything and everything is under complete control, plus policing. And such an unspoken agreement between society and the state - you live in a certain framework, we provide you with peace of mind. But in the current situation, the state has violated its part of the contract and so far everything is rolling down the well-worn path. But what will happen next when it comes to the people that they simply threw it? Or has it already reached ?!
          1. askort154
            askort154 21 January 2016 12: 07 New
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            bocsman ...... Berlin is not Moscow. So retreat. The main thing that I understood when I was in Germany is that everything and everything is under complete control, plus policing.

            As practice has shown, they and German Chancellor Merkel cannot go to the toilet without an American "wiretapping".
            And most importantly, the whole world learned about it! But it is not very
            upset, not only Merkel, but all Germans.
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      3. user
        user 21 January 2016 12: 39 New
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        Order ... "Everything should be fine."


        Ordnung!
        Ordnung is broken, that is the most important thing in all these events.

        And without ordnunga, like a real one, or squinting under the present, a German will live in Germany.

        Yes, for them it is really a problem.
        1. a housewife
          a housewife 21 January 2016 13: 13 New
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          Ordnung is everything! Muslims will come to power tomorrow, they will force everyone to live according to Sharia, this will be a new ordnung, and the Germans will live quietly on.
    2. Ami du peuple
      Ami du peuple 21 January 2016 11: 05 New
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      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      how did you get to that, Germans? Siegfried's descendants damn ...

      The ideology of consumerism destroys the most powerful nations and destroys indestructible empires. The Germans came to the inglorious finale of their glorious history. Sadly, but naturally.
    3. 79807420129
      79807420129 21 January 2016 11: 14 New
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      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      how did you get to that, Germans? Siegfried's descendants damn ...

      Yes, the overseas "partners" helped them to reach this point.
    4. dmi.pris
      dmi.pris 21 January 2016 11: 34 New
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      And so, just rolled ... to the turn for circumcision ... You will not envy.
      Quote: Andrew Y.
      So what can you talk to the German?
      how did you get to that, Germans? Siegfried's descendants damn ...
    5. Blondy
      Blondy 21 January 2016 12: 05 New
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      Guys, what kind of democracy can there be - in our time it is just such ammunition during special interventions: here, when the USSR was sold for sausage, the Ukrainian Maidan, all sorts of Arab springs, velvet, orange and other color revolutions. And in the citadels of this very democracy, everything has long been under a hood, let us remember, at least, the reaction of the "world
      communities "on the exposure of Assange and Snowden - the guys are locked up, cleaner than any Mishranda refugees, - and do not rypnesh, scream instantly. Or the same Merkel, who radically changed her behavior due to wiretapping.
      1. cap
        cap 22 January 2016 05: 44 New
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        Quote: Blondy
        Or the same Merkel, who radically changed her behavior due to wiretapping.


        Really for cheating on her husband? Maybe she collaborated with the Stasi, but they dug up the dossiers.
    6. Sirocco
      Sirocco 21 January 2016 12: 22 New
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      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      how did you get to that, Germans? Siegfried's descendants damn ...

      Probably not talking to those Germans, or not so trusting outsiders. I have with my Germans, there is no problem.
      1. alicante11
        alicante11 21 January 2016 12: 38 New
        +1
        Yes, I also once spoke with a familiar Russian German about "sex education" for children. And he also spoke about migrants, he was going "home".
    7. Theline
      Theline 21 January 2016 13: 41 New
      +1
      Tell me, have there never been problems with migrants in Russia?
      In Europe, when the waves ran in the middle of the two thousandths, this should be a disaster, and one should be interested in what the Germans think about it. It’s been so long in Russia, why don’t you discuss it?
      1. meridbt
        meridbt 21 January 2016 13: 43 New
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        We have already discussed everything a long time ago. The main verdict - come in large numbers
        1. Theline
          Theline 21 January 2016 19: 12 New
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          Well, in that case, they also came in large numbers. Judging by the article, they are afraid to talk only about this. And in Russia you can calmly talk about this until you offend someone, otherwise the offended person will complain to the police, and the talker will be charged with inciting ethnic hatred.
      2. Sirocco
        Sirocco 21 January 2016 13: 44 New
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        Quote: TheLine
        . It’s been so long in Russia, why don’t you discuss it?

        What are you talking about? Formulate the question correctly, without Google translator.
        1. Theline
          Theline 21 January 2016 18: 45 New
          +1
          I clearly formulated the question, do not snatch the sentence out of the whole message, there is no chain connection and you then do not understand anything.
          But so that you stop showing your wit about Google translator, I will rephrase the question: why are you so concerned about the influx of migrants in Europe, but do not continue to discuss the issue with migrants in the Russian Federation?
          1. Sirocco
            Sirocco 22 January 2016 05: 36 New
            0
            Did you yourself understand what you wrote in the first post?
            I repeat, for you, the radio station is on the BRONZEZODEZHDA (and not on transistors and lamps, there is such a joke).
            I think you are in Belarus, this question should concern you first of all, because according to the Germans living in Germany, there are not 1 million refugees there, but more than 200 million young, physically strong guys. Which are directed to the EU not for integration into civilization, but for its destruction, and this process has begun. This is the 2 millionth army, which is already raising its head, and at hour X, it will trample, and not only throughout the EU. And to the East, that is, to Belarus, Russia, Ukraine. (So ​​you understand why we are worried?)
            Now, about our migrants, you probably slept for a long time, this topic has been discussed and discussed more than once, only we have a difference with the EU, we have internal migration from the former USSR, which poorly know the language and our culture. They are just controlled, and our special services control them, unlike the EU special services. There are conflicts, but they are suppressed, as well as their dismantling with their own.
            PS
            We from Ukraine alone have more than 1 million refugee migrants. And it was discussed. Learn the materiel.
            1. Theline
              Theline 22 January 2016 14: 23 New
              -1
              Of course, the whole world wants to destroy you, and us too, and Ukraine. Doesn't it seem delusional? Apparently you have been living in an "armored train" for 30 years.
              Do not drag all people with the same brush, in your opinion, all 2 million refugees are terrorists to the last one, or maniacs-rapists?) I don’t need to talk about "this army in Europe will raise its head at hour X", this propaganda rhetoric sounds ridiculous.
              And for reference: the FSB is not the KGB, it cannot keep track of everyone.
    8. Alf
      Alf 21 January 2016 21: 05 New
      +4
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      how did you get to that, Germans? Siegfried's descendants damn ...
  2. Same lech
    Same lech 21 January 2016 10: 56 New
    12
    And my interlocutor Eugene has been very actively looking east lately


    The tumbleweed people ... cannot protect their own country ... it is better to escape to RUSSIA ....
    we press will run to CHINA and so on around the world.

    Although if she knows how to make sausages ... we need such EVGENY.
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    2. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 21 January 2016 11: 42 New
      +9
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      Although if she knows how to make sausages ... we need such EVGENY.

      And we have no one to make sausages? what

      She died - so she died. I chose a Mole for myself - so let that Mole survive all the nishtyaks and all the ambushes. Here, here, at VO, the Israelis are great - they have never agreed that something may not be better for them than everyone else, and even about Russia - and in general - they left and thank God! They are happy with their new birthmark and they never miss their former homeland. So the "new Germans" need to learn from them.

      In 2000, I saw these "new Germans" at the consulate in Saratov, who were no worse than Natasha Koroleva, in leotards with stripes and shoes on bare feet ... Then they did not think what their "historical mole" would meet? ...
  3. Samen
    Samen 21 January 2016 10: 56 New
    24
    And I suddenly realized:
    the Angela-born girl in the German Democratic Republic, having become chancellor, will finally avenge the hated western Germany!
    am
    1. poacher
      poacher 21 January 2016 11: 22 New
      +2
      her own among strangers .. she, too, looks eastward with longing.
  4. Coconut Tima
    Coconut Tima 21 January 2016 10: 56 New
    +6
    "What can you talk about with the people of Germany?"
    You can talk about what Frau Merkel smokes.
    1. dmi.pris
      dmi.pris 21 January 2016 11: 37 New
      -3
      She just smokes nervously .. aside.
      Quote: coconut tim
      "What can you talk about with the people of Germany?"
      You can talk about what Frau Merkel smokes.
  5. Hubun
    Hubun 21 January 2016 10: 57 New
    11
    Indeed, the Russians are doing everything on a grand scale. There democracy is even more democratic here in Europe than in Europe)))
  6. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 21 January 2016 10: 57 New
    +6
    Yes. As they were intimidated from the Cold War, they remained. Then "atomic nightmare", now "tolerance".
    And what's worse? Frightened easier to manage.
  7. xBoris
    xBoris 21 January 2016 10: 58 New
    +4
    ..yes, freedom of speech, however ..
    In Norway, the situation with freethinking is similar.
    Not a word left / right of the government line. Moreover - the Internet is still twisted to the limit.
  8. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 21 January 2016 11: 01 New
    +2
    And considering that he is in Germany, that in Russia until retirement at least another 9 years, he is relatively calm for himself. Apparently, there is something to turn around again.
    Only one "small" difference is the pension in Germany 80000 rubles, and in Russia, 8000 rubles request
    1. pts-m
      pts-m 21 January 2016 11: 20 New
      +1
      the amounts of pensions are different, but the prices are different. This comparison is not ice.
      1. Victor Demchenko
        Victor Demchenko 21 January 2016 12: 09 New
        -5
        and what are the prices? with a pension of 80, which at the current rate is no longer 000 ty, but somewhere around 80 ty I personally do not care about prices. and more: in Germany, gasoline (by the way ours) costs the same, if not less than ours, so .... what
    2. little man
      little man 21 January 2016 17: 59 New
      +1
      But they do not disdain our pension. Recently, a classmate arrived and issued a Soviet-Russian pension, and at the same time, ate cucumbers with potatoes and mother's dachas. He says that in Germany there are no such products.
  9. Alex_on
    Alex_on 21 January 2016 11: 03 New
    12
    I tried in classmates to send a message to a German recipient with the question "how did the problem with refugees affect you?" Not gone! Democracy rules black ...
    I had to rephrase, with the great and powerful it is quite possible)))))).
  10. Woodman
    Woodman 21 January 2016 11: 06 New
    15
    And these people teach us how to live !!!
    1. Belarus
      Belarus 21 January 2016 11: 10 New
      13
      I just fall off laughing when I imagine how Europeans will integrate the Muslim community into their tolerant with pederast parades, same-sex marriages and other crap.
  11. KBR109
    KBR109 21 January 2016 11: 06 New
    +5
    Overdid it with planting a "guilt complex". The spirit of the nation was killed. Again, the Naglo-Saxon occupation of Germany did not stop for a minute. Obama, however, promised to shelter in the states - ATTENTION-LITAURS - as many as 2016 thousand refugees in 7. good
  12. Kolyan 2
    Kolyan 2 21 January 2016 11: 07 New
    +8
    If it goes on like this, it will be something like this:
    1. kotvov
      kotvov 21 January 2016 11: 58 New
      +5
      If it goes on like this, it will be something like this: ,,
      iPhone is better to teach prison, he deserved it.
  13. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 21 January 2016 11: 07 New
    +6
    In this regard, Hitler lucidly explained
  14. Belarus
    Belarus 21 January 2016 11: 08 New
    +7
    Found a cool video for us but not for the acting puppet power in Germany:
  15. Ros 56
    Ros 56 21 January 2016 11: 10 New
    +1
    Frankly, extremely surprised. And you say democracy, but it doesn’t even smell close. Here are the balabol.
    Does anyone say this is true throughout Europe?
  16. 3 Gorynych
    3 Gorynych 21 January 2016 11: 10 New
    +2
    Order ... "Everything should be fine." Yes, I am familiar with this phrase in Germany.
    The order was in Germany, and then not for long, do not forget who brought up the current generation of Germans! State Department from across the sea. And the State Department doesn’t need a friendly country ... They need everything to be like in a herd.
  17. raid14
    raid14 21 January 2016 11: 10 New
    +2
    Here is the vaunted Western democracy, you can talk and think, but only in line with the ruling regime there. I agree that the standard of living there is higher, but living within the rigid framework of such a "democracy", when you are afraid to say what you think, is simply unbearable in my opinion.
  18. Professor
    Professor 21 January 2016 11: 17 New
    -4
    About taxes.

    The first and main topic of conversation in the Germans has always been and will be the theme of cars, not taxes.

    Especially about church tax

    Not to the church, but to religion.

    But God forbid, talk about problems with migrants.

    Not true. In December, I was in Cologne, Duseldorf, Duisburg and Essen. They speak freely about migrants and complain about them openly. Turks especially complain about the Arabs. lol

    So with the Germans have something to talk about. But not about politics and freedom.

    Not true.
    1. Mikhail Krapivin
      Mikhail Krapivin 21 January 2016 11: 35 New
      14
      The article is not about topics for conversation with Germans. I am sure you understand that. An article about how freedom in Europe has somehow mutated strangely and, in fact, is no longer very similar to freedom. The Poles, who called things by their proper names, are declared apostates and lost sheep, who must be urgently returned to the European flock. The Romanians and Hungarians, who said aloud what everyone thinks - that migrants will destroy Europe and we need to defend ourselves from them, were immediately declared insurgents. Apparently Israel is also such a civilized country that you can not talk about everything. Sometimes it seems to me that the Russian cuisine, in which they speak on any topic, without being afraid of anything and forgetting about who knocks where, and who is an agent of which special service, is the quintessence of freedom, about which in "free and civilized" Europe, not to mention America has already been forgotten. And you do not need to convince that this is not so, that you can easily chat with a Jew over a glass about the genocide of the Palestinians by Israel, and with an American about the totalitarian state that America has become, with the ubiquitous NSA, FBI and other agencies that monitor their own and others citizens from any toilet, like the unforgettable Major Pronin in his time :)
      1. Professor
        Professor 21 January 2016 11: 45 New
        -14 qualifying.
        Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
        The article that freedom in Europe somehow strangely mutated and, in fact, freedom is no longer very similar.

        How do you know this? From Kiselev’s stories from articles like this? Maybe you lived in Europe, worked or studied there? Can you speak German perfectly?

        Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
        Apparently, Israel is also such a civilized country that it’s not possible to talk about everything.

        Israel is a free country. You can talk about everything. But if you start to deny the Holocaust or tell Palestinian tales, then your opponent will simply twist his finger at the temple because it is not customary to give in the face. We are a civilized country.
        1. Mikhail Krapivin
          Mikhail Krapivin 21 January 2016 11: 52 New
          +9
          How nice it is :) Without long polemics, you immediately become personal, rude and humiliate the person you are talking to. Immediately visible civilization.
          1. Professor
            Professor 21 January 2016 12: 24 New
            -4
            Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
            How nice it is :) Without long polemics, you immediately become personal, rude and humiliate the person you are talking to. Immediately visible civilization.

            Are you talking to me? Where did I get personal?

            Quote: Good AAAH
            Yes, Russia will restore everything at a much higher level of education and science, if they stop lurking in the leadership of dope.

            On health, restore. Only your "if" somehow does not add optimism.
        2. alicante11
          alicante11 21 January 2016 12: 45 New
          +9
          or telling Palestinian tales


          Well, you have enough fairy tales on both sides.

          But if you start to deny the Holocaust


          Well, we, too, will be civilized and twist at the temple when they start rubbing us about the Holocaust.
        3. user
          user 21 January 2016 12: 46 New
          12
          How do you know this?


          Well professor, as always, in your own style. After all, who besides you travels to Europe, and even who can receive guests from the same Germany?

          I even wanted to swear in German, but the devil would have taken her tolerance.
    2. kotvov
      kotvov 21 January 2016 12: 05 New
      13
      Not true.,,
      Yes, we prohfessor and had no doubt; we all lie, only you bear the truth. And how poor you are among the liars to contain yourself request you present your report on conversations with the former pure race, we will appreciate YOUR truth.
    3. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 21 January 2016 12: 35 New
      +8
      Quote: Professor

      Not true. In December, I was in Cologne, Duseldorf, Duisburg and Essen.

      Our tourists also say that it’s normal in Germany. But the locals complain. Maybe living there and visiting are two big differences.
      Then the Jews complained to Putin that there was a shit in Europe. Although you, too, are Jews and say that everything is normal there.
      There was a lot of strange things in the world, especially in forums. You can speak everything and not be responsible for words. Or expressed your personal opinion and elevated it to the only truth.
      1. Professor
        Professor 21 January 2016 12: 39 New
        -4
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Our tourists also say that it’s normal in Germany. But the locals complain. Maybe living there and visiting are two big differences.

        I lived in Germany for a long time and find a common language with the Germans simply. What is written in the article is not true. The Germans freely complain about migrants. Most complaining Turks living in Germany for more than 20 years. Well, they do not like Arabs.

        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Then the Jews complained to Putin that there was a shit in Europe. Although you, too, are Jews and say that everything is normal there.

        In Europe, Jews have never felt good, but now it has become even worse. Especially in France. From that they are thousands and go to Israel.

        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        There was a lot of strange things in the world, especially in forums. You can speak everything and not be responsible for words. Or expressed your personal opinion and elevated it to the only truth.

        I always answer for my words and can confirm them with sources. When I express my "personal opinion" I write "IMHO".
        1. Manul
          Manul 21 January 2016 15: 44 New
          +1
          Quote: Professor
          Most complaining Turks living in Germany for more than 20 years. Well, they do not like Arabs.

          The conversation was about the Germans, then take the topic to the Turks. Your favorite distortion, and manipulation of facts. Well, of course, we live in our fantasy world, and without watching Kiselyov we do not go to bed. Very grateful for your participation.
          1. Professor
            Professor 21 January 2016 20: 15 New
            +1
            Quote: Manul
            The conversation was about the Germans, then take the topic to the Turks. Your favorite distortion, and manipulation of facts. Well, of course, we live in our fantasy world, and without watching Kiselyov we do not go to bed. Very grateful for your participation.

            You are always inattentive. I talked about Germans and Germans of Turkish origin, and not just about them.

            How's the weather out there? Can I already swim in the Mediterranean?

            The weather is great. Next week will be rainy. At sea, with a water temperature of less than 28-29 degrees, swim westward. Russo tourists bathe now. fellow

            Quote: alicante11
            Yes in the subject, in the subject.

            Would be in the subject, would not write nonsense.

            Quote: alicante11
            Yes, there is a complex, both military and economic and political. This is called the "Roof".

            Cool "roof". No American soldier has ever fought for Israel.

            Quote: alicante11
            Well, you always consider yourself so smart, if a person is important, then the conditions will make him so that he does not want to leave. They won’t let him go like that.

            And here is smart or not smart? The times of the NKVD have sunk into oblivion. Today, Russia is not North Korea; it cannot hold anyone by force. Komrad will not even ask permission. Leaving is all.


            Quote: alicante11
            Well, the great secret is military.

            Hmm ... And then what is the secret? The design of the ancient Mi-8 or the technology of its manufacture?
            Quote: the connoisseur
            somehow it’s sad to read about the Washington regional committee and your prime minister ... So is he also forced? And what kind of country is Israel like, is it something like an independent Ukraine?


            Quote: the connoisseur
            somehow it’s sad to read about the Washington regional committee and your prime minister ... So is he also forced? And what kind of country is Israel like, is it something like an independent Ukraine?

            He is not much more servile than your leadership. Today the Washington regional committee shows who needs where the crayfish hibernate.

            Quote: alicante11
            Well, we, too, will be civilized and twist at the temple when they start rubbing us about the Holocaust.

            For a long time now I am not surprised by Holocaust deniers, those who are twisting at their temples looking at the May 9 parade, those who say to the veteran “if you hadn’t fought, you would drink beer from Bavaria”. I personally try to pass by such poor people.
        2. Ros64
          Ros64 21 January 2016 21: 45 New
          +1
          We still have many Jews left in Russia - take away at least everyone - we are not greedy people!
    4. il grand casino
      il grand casino 21 January 2016 15: 01 New
      +7
      Good afternoon Professor!

      The first and main topic of conversation in the Germans has always been and will be the theme of cars, not taxes.

      I don’t know about cars, because I myself am indifferent to cars (he drives and thank God), but the fact that the topic "how much can you pay to the state and what our money is spent on" arises in any more or less confidential conversation - a fact.

      Not to the church, but to religion.

      Deyuro yes, de facto for the church, because if you are not officially a member of the "church" organization, then you can not pay.

      Not true. In December, I was in Cologne, Duseldorf, Duisburg and Essen. They speak freely about migrants and complain about them openly. Turks especially complain about the Arabs. lol


      I completely agree, they say and how. They say a lot, but ... from personal observations: As soon as they start acting like pigs, all Germans (regardless of the volume of their statements) pretend that they do not notice anything. It is sad.
      It’s sad that the police are inactive (personal experience, though the matter is not so important, I figured it out myself - things were stolen, I saw from the window ... I took it away, it’s good that the dimensions are enough. But the police openly told me (when she arrived and looked at the thieves), that they are refugees and they won’t have anything to do).
      1. Professor
        Professor 21 January 2016 15: 18 New
        0
        You know that a million Turks pay this tax on "mosques", and hundreds of thousands of Jews on "synagogue". And then everyone gets back from there funding for their particular confessions. And the money is not small.
        1. il grand casino
          il grand casino 21 January 2016 15: 39 New
          +2
          Yes I know. But to refuse this tax is very simple. At the same time, no one will forbid you to go to mosques / churches / synagogues. I put it wrong, mentioning only the church - the emphasis should have been on organization

          And by the way, the Turks here are not millions but millions hi
          How's the weather out there? Can I already swim in the Mediterranean?
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    6. Schulz
      Schulz 21 January 2016 20: 48 New
      +1
      Quote: Professor

      So with the Germans have something to talk about. But not about politics and freedom.

      Not true.

      Professor, again you are trying to explain something to people who point blank do not want them to explain something there. They are so comfortable living, realizing that:

      In Germany as a whole, each resident pays from his salary up to 50%.

      Well, why should they know that even after all these payments, the average German engineer has 5-6 times more cash on hand than the same Russian engineer. Well, the German pensioners only have to go on vacation abroad a couple of times a year for their beggarly retirement. Have you met them in Turkey and Egypt?
      And also taxes on the car, real estate

      How I forgot that in Russia taxes on the car (in the amount of three pieces) and real estate have long been canceled!
      church (!!!), help from East Germany.

      Because I’m an unbeliever, I’ll probably not touch the church, but if you add up all the money Russia has forgiven
      friends (Cuba, Vietnam, Syria ...) then I'm afraid that this amount will be a hundred times more "aid to East Germany.
      1. Schulz
        Schulz 21 January 2016 21: 02 New
        +1
        But God forbid, talk about problems with migrants. Or ask a German about the police or the Bundeswehr.

        It's clear: "God forbid"! Do you think someone wants to get into the casemates of the German counterintelligence after postponing the interrogation of the "third degree"? Many people can't stand it. It is known for certain.
        Fear. This is the most accurate definition of what drives the Germans in this regard.

        And why not be afraid if people disappear without a trace after such conversations. This is not Russia. Here for: "Threw an empty plastic bottle at a policeman" and "repeatedly stood in an unauthorized single picket" you can safely get a real "three-ruble note".
        Well naturally
        the business is actually dying due to sanctions.

        Eugene has been very actively looking east lately.

        And how apotheosis
        But, if you choose between the order, when it becomes scary from the question asked by the interlocutor, and the anarchist mess, [b] when it is possible to discuss such [b] questions [/ b] not only in the conversation, [b] but as we do here, [ / b] on our pages, I am definitely for a mess.

        How do we do that here? "... I can also go to Red Square and shout that the president of America is a fool"?
        PS: I always read Roman Skomorokhov with interest and recharge from him in a good mood. Bravo, Roman!
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  19. kiarini
    kiarini 21 January 2016 11: 18 New
    -8
    The author’s pity for the Germans greatly gives away the desire to humiliate them. Usually losers behave this way.
    The Germans themselves are certainly scared, but do not think that they will flee to Russia at once, as the author dreams of.
    If they don’t talk about the problem yet, then this is not a problem. After all, they complain about taxes, so yes, there is a problem. So it's too early you started burying them.
    1. Victor Demchenko
      Victor Demchenko 21 January 2016 12: 19 New
      +3
      Quote: kiarini
      So it's too early you started burying them.

      I wonder where in the article did you find exactly the postulates about "the burial of the Germans !?" I somehow did not find it anywhere. But the fact that today there is NO reaction of the German authorities to actions, moreover, planned, the so-called migrants except for good blah blah, and then apologies, like they misunderstood, although somehow it is impossible to understand the reaction and speech of the mayor of Cologne in another way.so the author is right.Yes, there is no special reaction in the form of massacre to the same migrants, but in my opinion It will not be long to wait.It will be the same as we have with the "refugees" from the DPR, at first they were welcomed as relatives, and when they started to fight, they pressed it as it should.
      1. en 45
        en 45 21 January 2016 14: 03 New
        +3
        Quote: Victor Demchenko
        ... yes, until there is a special reaction in the form of a beating to the same migrants, but in my opinion this does not take long to wait ...

        Yes, it seems there is already a reaction. This is taken from the discussion of the topic about how a migrant pushed a German woman under a train: Nestor MakhnoSevastopol 1 hour ago
        Everything, the Germans fuse, burned out.

        The atrocities of migrants in Germany forced local men to take up arms and teach foreigners a lesson. The editorial office of "Top Secret" received a message about a pogrom organized in the city of Bruchsal by Russian settlers. About 400 "Russian Germans" took part in it.

        - According to the police, about 120 cars with 3-4 men in each arrived at the haimu (hostel). "Southerners" - Arabs and Moroccans - tried to resist and shoot. But they were beaten with baseball bats and stools found in the haim. "Rusaks" (as Russian migrants in Germany call themselves) walked through all the floors, - says a source of "Top Secret" from among Russian migrants living in Germany.

        According to the man, cause mayhem could serve as rape migrants 13-year old Russian girl Lisa. As previously reported by the media, in Berlin, a group of refugees for 30 hours mocked 13-old schoolgirl. The child was kidnapped in January 11 near the railway station when she was returning home from school.

        A conflict of this magnitude occurred in Germany for the first time since the beginning of the mass migration of refugees in the country. Harassment of women migrants in Cologne and multiple rapes angered local people. The policy of non-intervention by the police and attempts to gloss over the crimes committed by the refugees, forcing people to defend their families.
        1. en 45
          en 45 21 January 2016 14: 07 New
          +4
          - It has become dangerous to walk around the city and even move around by car. When I stop at the traffic lights, I got used to closing the inside of the car door so that no one could get into the passenger compartment. I’m doing the same thing after going around the supermarket - I quickly get into the car, close the doors and only then start the engine, ”says a Russian migrant from Lichtenfels in Bavaria.

          According to the woman, 10 years ago to relocate to Germany, immigrants do not respect the rules of the road, walking around on foot along the roadsides of highways than can cause an accident. Women refugees begging and men robbing and raiding supermarkets. The authorities and the German police while silent about the incident and did not condemn the actions of migrants.

          "In Frankenberg, the Hermes supermarket was converted into a refugee shelter. A thousand people were accommodated in it. Since then, the city has become uneasy, and I am going to get my wife permission to carry weapons," says the source of "Top Secret." behavior of migrants. They fill up carts of groceries in stores and do not pay for purchases. When cashiers call security, they pretend not to understand the language. The mayor of Frankenberg came to one of these incidents, tried to speak with them in several languages, but to no avail. As a result, he paid for the migrants. This caused just questions from observers of this incident: why do native Germans earn their living by hard work, and migrants get everything for free? "

          According to the source, the authorities tried to attract the local population to help migrants and refugees urged to settle in vacant premises. After that, in Germany, a series of fires, which burned private property to refugees loyal Germans.

          At the time, the men from the Netherlands are protesting against the excesses of foreigners leaving the streets in miniskirts, Russian workers were the first in arms stood up to defend their families.

          “If something happened to my daughter or wife due to the fault of migrants, I would not hesitate to pick up a bat and go smash them,” the Russian migrant with whom we talked does not hide his radical views.
    2. little man
      little man 21 January 2016 18: 07 New
      0
      have you heard whether Russian-speaking "Balts" are fleeing to Russia from persecution? They seem to write, they were left without housing, and without pensions ...
  20. DobryAAH
    DobryAAH 21 January 2016 11: 18 New
    0
    Yes, it became hard to live in Europe and Germany, so Jews from all over the EU will go to Crimea.


    Crimean authorities declared their readiness to accept Jews fleeing anti-Semitism in Europe
    http://politrussia.com/news/vlasti-kryma-priglasili-417/
    1. Professor
      Professor 21 January 2016 11: 22 New
      -9
      Quote: Good AAAH
      Crimean authorities declared their readiness to accept Jews fleeing anti-Semitism in Europe

      And where did the Crimean authorities send Jews in response? wink

      PS
      In Israel in 2015 - a record number of new immigrants over the past 12 years
      According to the Ministry of Aliyah and Absorption and the Jewish Agency of Sokhnut, this year was a truly record year: the number of new immigrants exceeded 30.000, which is 10% more than in the previous year, 2014, David Shekhter, spokeswoman for Sokhnut, said.

      France became the record holder again - 7.900 repatriates, which is 15% more than in 20014. Ukraine is in second place - 7.000 repatriates came from it, which is 16% more than in the previous and 230% more than in 2013.


      In the final year, 6.600 people repatriated from Russia. This represents an increase of 40% compared to 2014, in which 4.900 people arrived and by 60% compared to 2013, when the number of returnees reached only 4.161 people.

      PPS
      In 2015, Israel arrived 2.780 engineers and technologists - compared to 2.500 in 2014, 1.228 doctors, hundreds of athletes and people of art.

      PPPS
      So it will be something to occupy them with:
      Sony buys Altair for $ 220 million and opens its center in Israel
      Sony Corporation of Japan buys Israeli chip maker Altair. According to The Marker, the transaction value will be 220 million US dollars.

      According to the newspaper, Sony plans to open its research center in Israel on the basis of Altair.

      This is just the second major investment by Japanese corporations in the Israeli high-tech sector in recent years. In 2014, Rakuten Holding acquired Viber for $ 900 million.
      1. DobryAAH
        DobryAAH 21 January 2016 11: 32 New
        -12 qualifying.
        By the way, then you can buy the Crimea from the Russians, like Alaska. We need money. Under Stalin, it was not possible to create the Crimean Jewish Republic. Now other conditions: everything is for you. Come, friends, buy real estate and houses. We love you.
      2. Mikhail Krapivin
        Mikhail Krapivin 21 January 2016 11: 47 New
        +9
        Quote: Professor
        Quote: Good AAAH
        Crimean authorities declared their readiness to accept Jews fleeing anti-Semitism in Europe


        PPS
        In 2015, Israel arrived 2.780 engineers and technologists - compared to 2.500 in 2014, 1.228 doctors, hundreds of athletes and people of art.


        Somehow, historically, Jews prefer highly intellectual and highly paid areas of application of their high intelligence. Jewish lawyer? Yes. Jewish engineer? May be. Jewish doctor? No questions. Jewish musician? Definitely. Jewish janitor? Never. Jew fireman? No. Jewish worker? Are you kidding me? Therefore, there is nothing surprising in the statistics you cited.
        1. atalef
          atalef 21 January 2016 11: 56 New
          +2
          Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
          Quote: Professor
          Quote: Good AAAH
          Crimean authorities declared their readiness to accept Jews fleeing anti-Semitism in Europe


          PPS
          In 2015, Israel arrived 2.780 engineers and technologists - compared to 2.500 in 2014, 1.228 doctors, hundreds of athletes and people of art.


          Somehow, historically, Jews prefer highly intellectual and highly paid areas of application of their high intelligence. Jewish lawyer? Yes. Jewish engineer? May be. Jewish doctor? No questions. Jewish musician? Definitely. Jewish janitor? Never. Jew fireman? No. Jewish worker? Are you kidding me? Therefore, there is nothing surprising in the statistics you cited.

          Of course, but what else? Have you seen Jews in the USSR not studying? That’s the whole difference: it was necessary to study for a doctor, a lawyer, an engineer, and not just study, but from the school bench, and there wasn’t a janitor, that's all.
          By the way, in Israel the same thing, only here Jews who did not study work as janitors, at construction sites, as watchmen
          1. DobryAAH
            DobryAAH 21 January 2016 12: 00 New
            0
            Of course, but what else? Have you seen Jews in the USSR not studying? That’s the whole difference: it was necessary to study for a doctor, a lawyer, an engineer, and not just study, but from the school bench, and there wasn’t a janitor, that's all.

            Yeah, I saw such stupid Jews in the USSR that you would be surprised. In general, not a tooth kick, but sincere, ready to give the last shirt. Probably Russified.
            1. atalef
              atalef 21 January 2016 18: 15 New
              +1
              Quote: Good AAAH
              Of course, but what else? Have you seen Jews in the USSR not studying? That’s the whole difference: it was necessary to study for a doctor, a lawyer, an engineer, and not just study, but from the school bench, and there wasn’t a janitor, that's all.

              Yeah, I saw such stupid Jews in the USSR that you would be surprised. In general, not a tooth kick, but sincere, ready to give the last shirt. Probably Russified.

              We have the same lack of stupid and sincere
          2. alicante11
            alicante11 21 January 2016 12: 53 New
            +2
            That’s the whole difference: it was necessary to study for a doctor, a lawyer, an engineer, and not just study, but from the school bench, and there wasn’t a janitor, that's all.


            Juggling, however, one also needs to learn from a turner, from a mine surveyor or from a carpenter, however, something was not visible to the influx of Jews in these professions.
            1. sleeping sayan
              sleeping sayan 21 January 2016 13: 37 New
              +4
              And where are the Jewish miners?
            2. atalef
              atalef 21 January 2016 18: 16 New
              +1
              Quote: alicante11
              That’s the whole difference: it was necessary to study for a doctor, a lawyer, an engineer, and not just study, but from the school bench, and there wasn’t a janitor, that's all.


              Juggling, however, one also needs to learn from a turner, from a mine surveyor or from a carpenter, however, something was not visible to the influx of Jews in these professions.

              My good friend is a surveyor and his wife is the same, weird huh? Jews and mine surveyors, each with an underground experience of 15 years
          3. little man
            little man 21 January 2016 18: 15 New
            0
            and where did the Jews come from who did not study? In the USSR, you write, they all studied (I support, and they did the right thing). From which countries did they come in large numbers of uneducated people? Still, it seems to me that not everything was so bad in the Soviet Union. We taught not only Jews and "made" of them engineers, doctors and actors, but also Lithuanians, Ukrainians, Georgians ... And who are they in Europe now?
            1. atalef
              atalef 21 January 2016 18: 47 New
              -1
              Quote: the connoisseur
              and where did the Jews come from who did not study? In the USSR, you write, they all studied (I support, and they did the right thing). From which countries did they come in large numbers of uneducated people? Still, it seems to me that not everything was so bad in the Soviet Union. We taught not only Jews and "made" of them engineers, doctors and actors, but also Lithuanians, Ukrainians, Georgians ... And who are they in Europe now?

              I liked it
              WE LEARNED ☺. I wonder how it interfaced with my TEE teacher -Bekman, soproma-Batytska, history -Levina
            2. atalef
              atalef 21 January 2016 21: 57 New
              0
              Quote: the connoisseur
              and where did the Jews who did not study come from? In the USSR, you write, they all studied (I support, and did it right). What countries have they come from unlearned?

              Morocco, Tunisia, Egypt. Iraq Iran Lebanon, Syria, Azerbaijan (a lot) - but generally any number, including South Africa,
              As a rule, European ones are from education, From the eastern countries (though they came mainly in the 60s) - there were few educated, well, their children, in general, didn’t differ much on this banner (again, not all)
        2. DobryAAH
          DobryAAH 21 January 2016 11: 56 New
          +2
          And in Israel, who, Uncle Fedi work as janitors? Many Jews who have driven off to Europe have found a job not to their liking.
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        4. Professor
          Professor 21 January 2016 12: 01 New
          0
          Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
          Jewish janitor? Never. Jew fireman? No. Jewish worker? Are you kidding me? Therefore, there is nothing surprising in the statistics you cited.

          Rave. Who do you think are janitors and firefighters in Israel? Out of 30,000 "2.780 engineers and technologists, 1.228 doctors, hundreds of athletes and people of art", and the rest who? wink

          PS
          I am glad that in a year 3 dozen design bureaus and a dozen hospitals with staff in full force moved to us. Here you have the Crimea. crying
          1. DobryAAH
            DobryAAH 21 January 2016 12: 09 New
            0
            Yes, Russia will restore everything at a much higher level of education and science, if they stop lurking in the leadership of dope.
          2. alicante11
            alicante11 21 January 2016 12: 55 New
            +1
            I am glad that over a year 3 ten design bureaus and a dozen hospitals with staff in full force moved to us. Here you have the Crimea. crying


            Well, about KB, you turned down. Who would let them go from the secret? even the Jews.
      3. Sirocco
        Sirocco 21 January 2016 12: 35 New
        +2
        Quote: Professor
        According to the Ministry of Aliyah and Absorption and the Jewish Agency Sokhnut, this year was a truly record year: the number of new repatriates exceeded 30.000

        Well then someone will have to fight. What the Israeli authorities do not promise, to be trapped.
        1. Professor
          Professor 21 January 2016 12: 41 New
          +1
          Quote: Sirocco
          Well then someone will have to fight. What the Israeli authorities do not promise, to be trapped.

          Why write nonsense? A repatriate who has reached the age of 18 has been relieved of his service in Tsakhal. Yes, and without repatriates in Hahal, busting and there is a reduction in service life. In combat units in general, a competition.
          1. Sirocco
            Sirocco 21 January 2016 13: 34 New
            +2
            Quote: Professor
            A repatriate who has reached the age of 18 has been relieved of his service in Tsakhal.

            Please explain Oleg, since from 18 years old he has been released from military duty, then it turns out they serve up to 18 years, or what? Either you messed up, or I did not understand.
      4. alicante11
        alicante11 21 January 2016 12: 48 New
        +1
        2015 engineers and technologists arrived in 2.780 in Israel - compared to 2.500 in 2014 year, 1.228 doctors, hundreds of athletes and people of art.


        Yes, it's great. As soon as they arrived, they will run away as soon as they smell fried.
        1. Professor
          Professor 21 January 2016 13: 44 New
          -1
          Quote: alicante11
          Yes, it's great. As soon as they arrived, they will run away as soon as they smell fried.

          How about fried? Like intifada or rocket attacks? Duc didn’t run away after all until now ...

          Quote: user
          After all, who besides you travels to Europe, and even who can receive guests from the same Germany?

          Many who go there besides me, but this comrade seems to me not to be one of them.

          Quote: alicante11
          Well, about KB, you turned down. Who would let them go from the secret? even the Jews.

          1. Are all KBs secret?
          2. Who will they ask? Flew "on a visit" and did not return. I know those too.

          Quote: Sirocco
          Please explain Oleg, since from 18 years old he has been released from military duty, then it turns out they serve up to 18 years, or what? Either you messed up, or I did not understand.

          Those who came to Israel at the age of 18 and older are exempted from service in Tzahal. We look at the numbers:
          The trend towards an increase in the number of young returnees continues. In 2015, half of all returnees were young people under the age of 30. 8.200 olim under the age of 19 years have repatriated this year, which amounted to an increase of 20% compared to 2014, and 6.950 olim aged 27 to 29 years - an increase of 10% compared to 2014. The youngest repatriate arrived in September from the United States at the age of one and a half months. The oldest returnee arrived in July at the age of 97.
          1. alicante11
            alicante11 21 January 2016 14: 27 New
            +4
            How about fried? Like intifada or rocket attacks? Duc didn’t run away after all until now ...


            When the Americans merge you, when the economy begins to crumble. If a military star comes, I’m afraid they won’t be in time. The distances there are small and the Arabs are very evil.

            1. Are all KBs secret?


            KB - of course. Without the first departments in such a case no matter how.


            2. Who will they ask? Flew "on a visit" and did not return. I know those too.


            If released, then it was not much needed. Those that are needed and will not go, and will not let go.
            1. Professor
              Professor 21 January 2016 14: 52 New
              0
              Quote: alicante11
              When the Americans merge you, when the economy begins to crumble. If a military star comes, I’m afraid they won’t be in time. The distances there are small and the Arabs are very evil.

              You are completely off topic. Americans began to help Israel only in the late 60s, and before that there was generally an American embargo on the supply of military equipment to Israel. Look at what Israel fought then. The US economic assistance is also scanty, and even recently our prime minister announced that he wanted to refuse this assistance so he was urgently called to the Washington Regional Committee and clearly explained why this should not be done.
              The Arabs have repeatedly rocked and raked each time. Aliya was only positively affected.

              Quote: alicante11
              KB - of course. Without the first departments in such a case no matter how.

              Shaw all? And those where the toilets design?

              Quote: alicante11
              If released, then it was not much needed. Those that are needed and will not go, and will not let go.

              You are not in the know here either. Now Russia does not have a tool to release or not to release. I’ll go dry and they will take me out through Belarus or Kazakhstan and lead me to the first department. A man worked with me here who in a past life served ICBMs in mine launchers. request
              1. alicante11
                alicante11 21 January 2016 15: 57 New
                +1
                You are completely off topic. Americans began to help Israel only at the end of the 60's, and before that there was generally an American embargo on the supply of military equipment to Israel


                Yes in the subject, in the subject. They didn’t throw stones at the Arabs, as the Palestinians are now in you. So do not, as they say, cast a shadow on a clear day.

                The US economic assistance is also scanty, and even recently our prime minister said that he wants to refuse this assistance, he was urgently called to the Washington Regional Committee and clearly explained why this should not be done.


                Yes, there is a complex, both military and economic and political. This is called the "Roof".

                Shaw all? And those where the toilets design?


                And for this KB is needed :)?

                You are not in the know here either. Now Russia does not have a tool to release or not to release.


                Well, you always consider yourself so smart, if a person is important, then the conditions will make him so that he does not want to leave. They won’t let him go like that.


                A man worked with me here who, in a past life, served ICBMs in mine launchers. request


                Well, the great secret is military.
              2. little man
                little man 21 January 2016 18: 21 New
                +1
                somehow it’s sad to read about the Washington regional committee and your prime minister ... So is he also forced? And what kind of country is Israel like, is it something like an independent Ukraine?
            2. atalef
              atalef 21 January 2016 22: 05 New
              +1
              Quote: alicante11
              When the Americans merge you, when the economy begins to crumble

              Who are you talking about? wink
              Quote: alicante11
              The distances there are small and the Arabs are very evil.

              So angry, so vile, so pestering women on the streets, chopping heads and pushing everyone in the Middle Ages .... I just don’t understand. why are you fighting for them then? Or do Europeans live in Syria? wink
              1. Sirocco
                Sirocco 22 January 2016 05: 56 New
                +1
                Quote: atalef
                So angry, so vile, so pestering women on the streets, chopping heads and pushing everyone in the Middle Ages .... I just don’t understand. why are you fighting for them then? Or do Europeans live in Syria?

                You know why I personally, dislike your brother, that you left, figs with you, but how you behave when you come to your homeland (RF) is disgusting, I wrote about this more than once, and this is not an isolated case. (This is like our liberals) So to speak in a strange monastery with its own charter.
                But the most disgusting and dangerous, it’s like in a pack of wolves, if a dog (mixture) becomes the leader there, the pack becomes very dangerous, the Dog perfectly feels a person, his character, his strengths and weaknesses. You gentlemen are somewhat similar to those described above. So how many doves do not feed, he’s still on his head .... I prefer an open enemy, an adversary, rather than a cunning one. I hope you received the answer.
      5. user
        user 21 January 2016 12: 53 New
        +2
        In Israel in 2015 - a record number of new immigrants over the past 12 years


        Before the new reformatting of the Middle East, I don’t know. If they were pulled in the USA, and so. . . ..
      6. little man
        little man 21 January 2016 18: 10 New
        0
        soon the country of Israel will become the greatness of America.
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      1. DobryAAH
        DobryAAH 21 January 2016 11: 34 New
        0
        Here they are the embassy from Belarus and brought.
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  21. Signaller
    Signaller 21 January 2016 11: 28 New
    +9
    Compliance is of course good. Stand at a red light at the crossing, even if there are no cars. Ride in one row, even if no one is driving in the next row, but the sign says so. It is wonderful. we are delighted with this and always say: "They are so obedient." The same is with migrants. The motherland said tolerance, migrants are good and they answered, YAVOL i.e. THERE IS. And migrants ????? And they don't care. And most importantly, BIG. They are accustomed to in their homeland, if a woman is not in a burqa or at the worst end with her head uncovered, and her hands are open, then she wants to be fucked. Type calls on everyone - "have me". There is only one thing either to put the migrants in a tough channel with a firm hand and punish them harshly, or to the Germans themselves to lie under them. I think the pride of the Germans will be higher and they will make the process of acclimatization of migrants at an accelerated pace, otherwise all this will end badly for Europe. She will simply be fucked in all the holes.
    1. 97110
      97110 21 January 2016 13: 28 New
      0
      Quote: Signaller
      I think the pride of the Germans will be higher
      ordnung? Disciplines? The Germans? Why, I doubt it. Well, if in Russia after negotiations, then it is possible. But overslept in the morning.
  22. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 21 January 2016 11: 33 New
    +8
    But not about politics and freedom.

    At the broadcasts of R. Babayan, a consultant who has been living in Germany for a long time also drew attention to this, saying that if in the USSR there was mainly talk about politics in the kitchen, the Germans did not allow this even in the kitchen. Obviously, this is the flip side of European democracy and freedom.
  23. Lanista
    Lanista 21 January 2016 11: 36 New
    +9
    I myself spoke with a German (a real, ethnic German with German citizenship) not so long ago, but even before the Cologne events. I was very surprised that they really do not want to openly discuss migration issues. The German constantly squeezed out of himself something about the fact that "we must have an open view of others," but did not dare to say anything about the essence of the problem.
  24. vic58
    vic58 21 January 2016 11: 39 New
    +3
    To read "Sh-luhu V-hollow" and "Buld" in the morning, watch the German "film industry", and then go to ... church?!? Caring for LGBT people?!? So they were shown a "side view"! And the ordnung begins with a stick ... I forgot who wrote: "And the wolves came over the flock of sheep ..." The classic never gets old request
  25. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 21 January 2016 11: 47 New
    16
    My sister lives in Cologne. Two daughters. I stopped sleeping completely. To write by e-mail directly is afraid, he writes in oblique terms. I saw such a "democracy" in my grave.
    1. kotvov
      kotvov 21 January 2016 12: 10 New
      11
      I stopped sleeping at all. ,,
      you write, of course, a lie, because our Jewish friend said that it was all a lie. He was there, he knows.
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  27. OlegV
    OlegV 21 January 2016 11: 49 New
    +8
    ..... But God forbid, talk about problems with migrants. ...... Or how the Germans relate to the problem of sexc-minorities.
    1. DobryAAH
      DobryAAH 21 January 2016 12: 14 New
      +2
      No, these stones are not necessary, to Africa them.
    2. jjj
      jjj 21 January 2016 12: 17 New
      +3
      And soon another Love Parade. How will it go this year? The spectacle promises to be das is fantastish
    3. little man
      little man 21 January 2016 18: 32 New
      0
      went on an excursion to Seville, according to legend, the beautiful Carmen worked at the tobacco factory of this city (I think everyone has heard of such a hot girl). There was a local holiday, and I saw enough of hot Spanish "guys" of all stripes and colors. I was surprised and upset. Better don José and the bullfighter Escamillo.
  28. Vadim12
    Vadim12 21 January 2016 12: 10 New
    +4
    Yes rightly to them (Europeans). Let them slam their fill. They do not consider Russians to be people, they don’t need to be friends with them, only business. And that one is under sanctions. And some in Russia already feel sorry for them. We need to rejoice that the EU authorities are spreading their people. They spared us in the 90s? Rejoiced!
  29. Friends
    Friends 21 January 2016 12: 25 New
    0
    Quote: poacher
    the Angela-born girl in the German Democratic Republic, having become chancellor, will finally avenge the hated western Germany!


    A similar thought also arises, given some actions and conversations of the Angels ...

    If this is not considered a conspiracy of conspiracy agents of the Stasi, who penetrated the German authorities, in order to take revenge, then, most likely, there are powerful complexes, from belonging to the GDR ...
  30. poma
    poma 21 January 2016 12: 39 New
    0
    Geyropa gets what she fought for. One thing is bad - there are fewer white people on earth.
  31. ASK505
    ASK505 21 January 2016 12: 45 New
    -4
    To the author minus. He was not there, not talking to those. The Germans speak openly on any topic (just not at work). They also express their opinion on any of their policies that they think.
  32. Ros 56
    Ros 56 21 January 2016 13: 06 New
    +6
    I thought for a long time whether to write or not, you have such a polemic. I decided to write.
    My wife has a girlfriend, 10 years ago she left with her youngest children in Germany (the eldest is married, did not go). Her daughter (married to a German) has a son for 4-5 years. He speaks German, he doesn’t want to learn Russian. Father (German) tells him, learn Russian, I don’t know yet where we will have to live on. No thoughts come up?
    1. little man
      little man 21 January 2016 18: 34 New
      0
      smiled wink My friends "Germans" always write that everything is fine with them, they are not going to return.
  33. viktor, viktor
    viktor, viktor 21 January 2016 13: 28 New
    +1
    With taxes, the author, to put it mildly, is misleading. The tax in Germany is progressive (the greater the charge, the higher the tax), and is also divided into "classes": 1kl (single / unmarried) -pay
    most of all. Families with children pay the least. Having one not an adult son (others live separately) and I pay 10% of the tax, this is less, as I understand it than in Russia.
    1. alexey water
      alexey water 21 January 2016 14: 56 New
      +2
      In Russia, citizens do not pay this kind of tax at all. Citizens pay for utilities, road, service charges. For citizens paid by the employer.
      Real estate tax is several times less than in Germany.
    2. atalef
      atalef 21 January 2016 22: 07 New
      0
      Quote: victor, victor
      .Family with children pay the least. Having one not an adult son (others live separately) and I pay 10% of the tax, this is less, as I understand it than in Russia.

      Lucky. Everything is much worse with us.
  34. evge-malyshev
    evge-malyshev 21 January 2016 13: 44 New
    +4
    Quote: Professor
    We are a civilized country.


    Let me doubt it. Take it for granted. Do not count on debate.
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  36. Zomanus
    Zomanus 21 January 2016 14: 16 New
    +1
    The Germans have a fear of being accused of Nazism.
    And they can do it for anything.
    And when an unfamiliar dude calls them and starts
    to ask about such a sensitive topic ...
    Well, in general, I understand their reaction.
    And what about the migrant lawlessness,
    so it was with us when the Caucasians bent us
    they tried and our glorious police didn’t really bother them in this, and sometimes helped.
    Then the people simply took up arms and went stupidly to wet the newcomers.
    From Vladivostok, all planes full flew ...
    So long as the inhabitants of Germany do not understand that they were sacrificed and
    enemies for them are all representatives of the government, there will be no order.
  37. Bayun
    Bayun 21 January 2016 14: 43 New
    +1
    This is for us, who live by three "truths": Tsarist Russia, Soviet and Russian - everything is clear. Our three-truth verbiage will plug any European into the belt. In vain did the author get into the dull but happy European lifestyle. They don't have much time left ... let them rejoice, you poor ones.
  38. alexey water
    alexey water 21 January 2016 14: 51 New
    +4
    Recently I heard from "ours", who have been living for 15-20 years in Germany, and who are citizens of Russia and Germany, that since "they" (citizens of Germany) live, God forbid everyone to live in Russia. And here the question arises. Yes, of course, financially, they live better, for now. There is no doubt. But, is this happiness? Is it only in material values? For example, I do not want to live as they do now. Because on the example of the Germans, I really understood what FREEDOM is. And how valuable it is. Here it is, Freedom, is in Russia. The freedom of life of every person within the framework of the law. Freedom of your thoughts, views, reasoning, interests, work ..., within the framework of the law. And they count money, and the amount of food that can be bought with them (2 sausages, 3, 10 sausages). And why is it necessary ... If in everything else you are limited. I think, deep down, they understand this, or eventually they will.
    1. MIKHAN
      MIKHAN 21 January 2016 21: 25 New
      +1
      I corresponded in the 90s with a Russian German (the redhead lived together in the hostel, Andrey Kran, is smart and with a sense of humor) I left for Germany .. I was not well settled in, but still yearned (inter-communication and Russia) ... Then I disappeared he pimped himself to see! Often I remember him ... (congratulated each other on June 22 and May 9 ..))))
      1. miru mir
        miru mir 21 January 2016 21: 57 New
        -2
        And 22 of June, what kind of holiday do you have, Grandfather Meehan? Did this German not congratulate you on 8 March?
        1. MIKHAN
          MIKHAN 21 January 2016 22: 25 New
          +1
          Quote: miru mir
          And 22 of June, what kind of holiday do you have, Grandfather Meehan? Did this German not congratulate you on 8 March?

          January 27 was still celebrated ... bully Satisfied?
          1. miru mir
            miru mir 21 January 2016 22: 40 New
            -2
            Yes, I’m something you at least get drunk wassat You can even celebrate a faceted glass day laughing
            1. MIKHAN
              MIKHAN 21 January 2016 22: 47 New
              +2
              Quote: miru mir
              Yes, I’m something you at least get drunk wassat You can even celebrate a faceted glass day laughing

              Well, the flag in your hands ... wink
              1. miru mir
                miru mir 21 January 2016 22: 54 New
                -3
                Drum on your neck, grandfather. The far right in the picture are you?
                1. MIKHAN
                  MIKHAN 21 January 2016 22: 56 New
                  +2
                  Quote: miru mir
                  Drum on your neck, grandfather. The far right in the picture are you?

                  I'm glad you liked it ...)))) laughing wassat
  39. Papapg
    Papapg 21 January 2016 15: 00 New
    +2
    Before talking to "Russian" Germans, you must first have a drink, and then - on any topic, like ours. laughing
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  41. holgert
    holgert 21 January 2016 15: 02 New
    +3
    On account of the fact that the Germans are not discussing anything - this is complete nonsense !!!! He was himself and participated in the discussions. They are also worried about everything --- the last demonstration in Leipzig serves as proof. Of course, this is, first of all, an occupied country that has lost his passionarity under "" democratization "" and the occupation of the last 50 years ..... The question is --- what will happen next with the Germans ???? Will their Aryan spirit wake up ?????
  42. begemot20091
    begemot20091 21 January 2016 15: 19 New
    +3
    Quote: Victor Demchenko
    and what are the prices? with a pension of 80, which at the current rate is no longer 000 ty, but somewhere around 80 ty I personally do not care about prices. and more: in Germany, gasoline (by the way ours) costs the same, if not less than ours, so .... what

    shshshshshshshshshshshshshshshshshshshshshshshshshshshshshshsh
    Moscow $ 0.4 per liter in Germany- $ 2
    A monthly ticket, for example, by metro. In Moscow $ 36
    in Berlin -Monatskarte Standard - a monthly pass. For all three zones, something about $ 100
    For European countries, Internet and mobile communications are about 3, often 4 times higher than Russian ones.
    The prices for housing and communal services (gas, electricity, water supply, sewage, heating, garbage, etc.) for a typical three-room apartment of 85 m are still quite relevant. In Moscow, rational use of resources leaves 155 bucks on average. For Berlin - 200-300 dollars and etc...
    I'm not trying to say that we are more alive than all living things, but everything is relative
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  44. Manul
    Manul 21 January 2016 16: 18 New
    0
    Die Anstalt led by the inimitable Max Utof are as good as ever!
  45. Mig-31
    Mig-31 21 January 2016 17: 18 New
    +1
    Quote: alicante11
    or telling Palestinian tales


    Well, you have enough fairy tales on both sides.

    But if you start to deny the Holocaust


    Well, we, too, will be civilized and twist at the temple when they start rubbing us about the Holocaust.

    "Lohocost" would be more correct
    1. klin1
      klin1 21 January 2016 18: 15 New
      +1
      Before talking to "Russian" Germans, you must first have a drink, and then - on any topic, like ours.

      it’s not true and it’s not enough to cook fools with the first fools
      and the truth is that every sandpiper praises its swamp

      you need to figure out the beginning at home and then climb into someone else’s garden
      I personally can tell the truth how they treated me in the Kaliningrad region
      when after the army in 1993 I moved there from Tashkent
      they burned from the bathhouse and to the point that I planted potatoes earlier only in the potam that Colorado beetles flew from me to them a lot I can tell but good is not enough good

      you're lucky with GDP now
      but can anyone say if another mine will fly from vsu to Donetsk
      then we’ll demolish why everything until the critic
      Yes, a lot of things from simple cops to forestry, a mess and theft
      and the author is about Europe
      yes, it’s normal here and taxes are normal if hands aren’t out of ass
      you can live with dignity
      and these misunderstandings with the dark ones lift assholes off the sofas and look around
      this applies to all
  46. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 21 January 2016 21: 12 New
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    Germans they will remain Germans for us forever ..! Remember we were taught "Workers of all countries unite!" and in 41st "Are you a worker or a peasant ..?" And in response, the automatic turn .. Now the naglo-Saxons, they want to try Russia by mouth! Come on, just remember the history of the Yankees and understand what is happening now and will happen in the future ..
    Russia is too tough for you!
    1. Hello
      Hello 21 January 2016 23: 33 New
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      Quote: MIKHAN
      Germans they will remain Germans for us forever ..! Remember we were taught "Workers of all countries unite!" and in 41st "Are you a worker or a peasant ..?" And in response, the automatic turn .. Now the naglo-Saxons, they want to try Russia by mouth! Come on, just remember the history of the Yankees and understand what is happening now and will happen in the future ..
      Russia is too tough for you!

      Oh, and you love the slogans to yell, you would be born at the turn of the century, the price you would not have a speech from the armored car to push. Trotsky you are our modernized wassat
      1. MIKHAN
        MIKHAN 22 January 2016 19: 45 New
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        Quote: Hello
        Quote: MIKHAN
        Germans they will remain Germans for us forever ..! Remember we were taught "Workers of all countries unite!" and in 41st "Are you a worker or a peasant ..?" And in response, the automatic turn .. Now the naglo-Saxons, they want to try Russia by mouth! Come on, just remember the history of the Yankees and understand what is happening now and will happen in the future ..
        Russia is too tough for you!

        Oh, and you love the slogans to yell, you would be born at the turn of the century, the price you would not have a speech from the armored car to push. Trotsky you are our modernized wassat

        You reminded me of my youth ... In the late 80s, all 10 graduates were collected at the military registration and enlistment office for testing (some tricky one) Five out of 200-300 were selected, including me ... Prapor promised the golden mountains to any military school, abroad, etc ... I chose the Military-Political School, but the collapse of the USSR began, it’s not fate to see! bully Of course, I wouldn’t often quote Lenin, but I could understand the soldier’s soul and pick it where necessary .. Then I learned a lot, but it’s all wrong ... There is no scope for the soul and terrible longing! For a heart attack the first pancake ... hi
  47. klin1
    klin1 21 January 2016 21: 52 New
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    Germans, they will forever remain Germans for us ..!


    in a couple of years you’ll talk about Ukrainians
    Armenians Azerbaijanis Uzbeks Tajiks and so on
    respect people need whoever they are
    and it doesn’t matter to pigs, he grazes or stands behind a machine
  48. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 21 January 2016 22: 19 New
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    Quote: klin1
    Germans, they will forever remain Germans for us ..!


    in a couple of years you’ll talk about Ukrainians
    Armenians Azerbaijanis Uzbeks Tajiks and so on
    respect people need whoever they are
    and it doesn’t matter to pigs, he grazes or stands behind a machine

    There is no hatred for anyone ..! But excessive gullibility and belief in "friendship", which usually costs us dearly (in human sacrifice more often ..) That's what I mean! hi
    ARMY AND NAVY! THIS IS OUR CENTURY ALLIES AND FRIENDS ... What we see now! Russia is respected and listened to when it is strong! I have something to compare with, and therefore I have the right to say so! (no offense)
  49. samarin1969
    samarin1969 21 January 2016 23: 58 New
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    "But two out of three conversations were crumpled and terminated with the note" Let's agree some other time "..."
    "
    Order ... "Everything must be in order." Yes, I am familiar with this phrase in Germany phrase. The Germans are accustomed to the established procedures and they are happy to follow them. The whole country. And there is nothing worse for a German than not to comply with the established procedures.

    But now times have changed. And the Germans were really not ready for them. Pure Russian. There is a universal badabum in the yard, but we are not ready ... "

    An undignified comparison, but the author's Germans are strikingly similar to the hobbits on the eve of "badabum" from Mordor "
  50. Jan2016
    Jan2016 23 January 2016 21: 05 New
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    Here above was a conversation above, and why Jews are not janitors. There are! And there are cleaners. A Jewish couple lived in our yard in Soviet times. He worked as a loader in a factory (Borya), a healthy man with an oblique fathom in his shoulders. Only now he had a moron (disability group 3), after hours he was sitting on a stool under his windows, tarred the white sea in the mouthpiece and drooling all the time on his shirt. He always wiped his nose with his sleeve. His wife Eva (fool 3 gr disability) porches soap pavement chalk. And in her free time she threw stones at children who teased her with her husband. And now a moron Jewish woman of about 35 years old still lives in our house (she has a disability group of 3) in the supermarket floors, she washes her there everyone praises her. Besides salary, he receives a salary. It’s just that not everyone has an education or may have it.