Defense Ministry will adopt the BMD-4 in the current year

The issue of adopting the new BMD-4M combat vehicles for use by the Airborne Forces should be resolved in the near future, reports RIA News message commander Vladimir Shamanov.

"The issue of adoption is the matter of the next few days," said the colonel general.

“All documents are coordinated with all departments and are in the government office,” he said. “Literally at the exit, a government decree on BMD-4M and BTR-MDM (Shell)”.

Previously, the management of the manufacturing enterprise - the Kurgan Machine-Building Plant - stated that "the Airborne Troops will be fully re-equipped on the BMD-4M and the BTR" Shell "to the 2025 year."

Help Agency: “The BMD-4M is a fourth-generation upgraded airborne assault vehicle with a new hull, engine, chassis and other nodes. The engine power of the BMD-4M is 500 horsepower and allows you to reach speeds of up to 70 kilometers per hour. A combat vehicle is capable of forcing water barriers without preparation, speeding afloat to 10 kilometers per hour. Armament: 100-mm gun (launcher) 2А70, 30-mm automatic gun 2А42 and 7,62-mm PKTM machine gun in a single unit. "

Comments

[ohtsistem]

Krasava !!!!

[gray smeet]

The paratrooper waited ....

[Now we are free]

Faster, faster and once again faster to adopt / put into series! First of all, to replace the BMD4-M which is still in service with the Airborne Forces: BMD-2 and even (such an anachronism as) BMD-1 ...
The winged infantry is the backbone of the Russian army in the literal sense. it is she who is best suited for the rapid redeployment to the area of ​​possible hostilities, I generally am silent about the high level of training and the moral component of our Blue Berets (No offense to other troops).
By and large, the Airborne Forces will be the first to meet the enemy on our borders (after the border guards) in the conditions of the current network-centric / hybrid wars, they will probably engage in battle before the border guards in the territory of the states adjacent to our country, the list of which has now expanded, more than enough ...

[fan_]

And where to put the released 1 and 2? Again, right under the open space they will store, so this will certainly not be working equipment without spare parts.

[Comrade Bender]

And the freed 1 and 2 can be sold to developing countries, they will be happy with such updates to their technology. Well, like the one whose flag you have.

[avt]

Quote: fan_

And where to put the released 1 and 2?

The shaman slowly remakes kopeks into deuces, and deuces still serve. Well, they won’t move to fours at once.

[technical]

To Donetsk and Lugansk. Hitching the plow and reaper will make a good dual-use technique. You can in Syria, ISIS in the desert to drive. Do not walk after them the Syrian army to run. And you can leave it at home, release cars from the snowdrifts. The technique is universal and very necessary.

[serezhasoldatow]

There are options for modernization and for sale.

[cap]

Quote: serezhasoldatow

There are options for modernization and for sale.

Probably without armor and weapons? I wonder how much it will cost. Farmers in the Far East just right.
BRDM in the 90s without arms went like hot cakes, still GTS-s. Somewhere in the taiga, they probably are now wound up. I searched for it. Kurgan Machine-Building Plant.

[Ros 56]

Quote: Now we are free

By and large, the Airborne Forces will be the first to meet the enemy on our borders

As I understand it, the Airborne Forces are absolutely not designed to meet someone at the border. Airborne needed a shooter somewhere in the rear of the enemy, or capture a bridgehead or something else.

[ImPerts]

That's right)))
Airborne Troops (Airborne Forces) - a branch of the Armed Forces, which is the reserve of the Supreme High Command and designed to cover the enemy in the air and perform tasks in its rear to disrupt command and control, capture and destroy ground elements of precision weapons, disrupt the advance and deployment of reserves, violate the work of the rear and communications, as well as covering (defending) certain areas, areas, open flanks, blocking and destroying the landed airborne assault forces, erupted anti-aircraft militias INEC and other tasks.

[RUS96]

Shamans fought so much for her ... and got it.

[goose]

Quote: RUS96

Shamans fought so much for her ... and achieved

It's time to call tanks like Americans or ours during WWII.
Type KV, IS, GSH - General Shamanov

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: goose

It's time to call tanks like Americans or ours during WWII.
Type KV, IS, GSH - General Shamanov

GS - there will be confusion. Better easier - BMD-4M "Shaman". I’m gonna love the boys ...

[Ros 56]

Quote: goose

Type KV, IS, GSH - General Shamanov

Gryazev, Shipunov - our brilliant weapons designers, hardly General Shamanov.

[poquello]

Quote: ohtsistem

BMD-4M

Shamans are gorgeous
http://tvzvezda.ru/news/vstrane_i_mire/content/201601201032-kjtp.htm

[max702]

Engine power BMD-4M is 500 horsepower
It is interesting, why not the UTD-32 with its 660l / s or with another version that flashed in the messages of the TV which is from 813l / s .. There is not much power like the BC!

[poquello]

Quote: max702

.. Power like BK does not happen much!

and weight? it's bmd

[vitvdv75]

The fighting compartment is just excellent, the firepower is at a high level. I just want to clarify: the article says: "... 30-mm automatic cannon 2A42 and 7,62-mm PKTM machine gun in a single block", this is not correct, the BO is armed with a 30-mm automatic cannon 2A72, not 2A42.

[ImPerts]

All the same, brought to mind)))
Well done !!!

[UralMan]

Quote: ImPerts

All the same, brought to mind)))
Well done !!!

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The refusal of the leadership of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation to purchase BMP-4, for which the commander, Colonel General Shamanov, is very active in advocating.

The essence of the disagreement is this:
- The commander of the Airborne Forces wants to start mass production of the BMD-4M
- the leadership of the Armed Forces (First Deputy Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation, Army General N. Makarov, Deputy Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation A. Sukhorukov) considers the BMD-4M to be inconsistent with modern requirements and do not plan to purchase it.
BMD-4M converted "Kurganmashzavod" under its capabilities "BMD-4 with a unified combat compartment B8Y01", which was adopted in 2004 and developed by VGTZ (code "Bahcha-U").
BMD-4 has already entered service with the Russian Airborne Forces, but their deliveries were suspended in order to transfer production from VGTZ to another plant (Kurganmashzavod, concern Tractor Plants).
The main advantage of the BMD-4 and BMD-4M is the unified fighting compartment B8Y01 for light weight vehicles by weight developed by KBP.
The car turned out really unparalleled in firepower in its class. But, at the same time, it turned out to be very expensive (~ 90% more expensive than the T-10A tank).
At the same time, judging by the photos that are known on the Internet, this “golden” car turned out not to be of high quality, and not only the running gear is to blame.
The photo of an expensive fighting compartment that has no analogues in the world shows serious production flaws, in fact, pieces of tin stick out and serious manufacturing flaws are visible:
The shortcomings mentioned by General Shamanov after taking the post of commander of the Airborne Forces of the Russian Federation (in 2009) did not disappear.
I will quote a few phrases of Shamanov: “The trends in world tank building are such that the transmission, in order to better protect the crew, is carried out to the head of the tank and combat vehicle. In our country, it’s not iron that takes the blow, but people. This should not be. ”

[dmi.pris1]

More beautiful and different cars! ...

[Black Colonel]

More beautiful and different cars! ...
Beautiful from Yudashkin?
Why different?
Read the memories of the Wehrmacht suppliers about providing spare parts for existing equipment in front-line conditions. They had about 20 types of trucks alone.

[Dam]

Good machine. God willing, bring to mind

[Izotovp]

And what is heard about BMD with a 57-mm gun and is there an objective comparison of these complexes?

[ohtsistem]

BMD-4M - the only car in the world that can be landed with the crew - and immediately into battle. With a weight of 18 tons she has improved buoyancy, more powerful weapons, while armor is thinner than its predecessors - a special aluminum alloy provides protection for the crew.
It will be equipped with heavy-duty aluminum armor
and it has properties that ensure that fragments do not appear inside the habitable compartment if it is hit by a projectile or large-caliber cartridge.

[Black Colonel]

"... in the event of her being hit by a shell ..." there will be nothing to catch.

[voyaka uh]

"Heavy duty aluminum armor will be installed on it" ////

Well, about armor so there aren’t any illusions,
with 18 tons of total weight, you won’t especially book.
But quickly ride off-road on armored paratroopers,
Of course it is. And have good fire support too.

[max702]

Quote: voyaka uh

Well, about armor so there aren’t any illusions,
with 18 tons of total weight, you won’t especially book.

This is yes, but according to TK, protection from 30mm and a board from 14.5mm was implemented forehead. Enough for a light car! In addition, a removable remote sensing system was developed, the whole problem, as always, is there, and the right logistics ..

[lysyj bob]

"30-mm automatic cannon 2A42"

It will be right - 2A72.

[VNP1958PVN]

Landing will be glad. And then more and more for my two ...

[gg.na]

I am very happy that the airborne rearm! !!! Equip them with more modern machines, weapons and other equipment !!! Where is the landing - there is VICTORY !!!

[Great-grandfather of Zeus]

gg.na-you need to put a smiley after each word, but if there are more than nine letters in a word, then two at once! and at the end of the text you give seven pieces!

[gergi]

I would have bought one myself. Where do they sell? Glad for our paratroopers. On steep cars they will drive envy and fear to all sworn friends. Imagine how she jets along the autobahn! Song! I know what I'm talking about, on an urgent BMP they streamed. In the GSVG.

[activator]

Quote: gergi

I would have bought one myself. Where do they sell? Glad for our paratroopers. On steep cars they will drive envy and fear to all sworn friends. Imagine how she jets along the autobahn! Song! I know what I'm talking about, on an urgent BMP they streamed. In the GSVG.

Somewhere infa that it costs 3 lyama greens came across you by chance not Abramovich?

[Paranoid50]

I bought it back in ... 2012, for 310 rubles. True, on a scale of 1: 72, the series "Russian Tanks". It is still on the shelf in a blister. This is how they will be officially adopted, then I will unpack it ...

[OlegV]

by the year 2025 ??????
cool....
there already in the 6th generation it will be time to transplant.

as always, everything is beautiful on paper .....
in reality, everything is completely different, unfortunately.

top managers are able to report, this they do not need to be taught .... from their words

"The issue of adoption is the matter of the next few days," said the colonel general.

although the factory workers give completely different numbers ....

[OlegV]

Quote: VNP1958PVN

... And then more and more for my two ...

and they are supposed to be on their own .... otherwise it’s not a landing, but a motorized infantry.

[barclay]

The paratrooper of motorized infantry can and should be, moreover, armed to the teeth. And only saboteurs and partisans act on foot. It is correct that the Airborne Forces are rearming - they delayed this for a long time. Hurry up. Even BMD1 60s of the last century is in service.

[Great-grandfather of Zeus]

With our Ministry of Finance, I won’t be surprised that adoption will be postponed until later, more precisely, the car will be quietly buried.

[Abbra]

It’s a pity that it will not be given a ride at least ... Although ...

[tchoni]

Accept, accept, no matter how they will not. There are a lot of conversations around the device. It seems that the paratroopers themselves are not completely sure if they need this machine ... And what niche it will occupy in the airborne weapons system

[alone]

Quote: tchoni

Accept, accept, no matter how they will not. There are a lot of conversations around the device. It seems that the paratroopers themselves are not completely sure if they need this machine ... And what niche it will occupy in the airborne weapons system

It's not about what they want to accept or not. What about finances in such a difficult time?

[max702]

Quote: lonely

It's not about what they want to accept or not. What about finances in such a difficult time?

There is a lot of money in the country! Kohl we give out loans to all and sundry, but we buy American securities with a profitability of 0,01% per annum ... About theft at all levels and do not want to talk ..

[VP]

And what is the problem there, do not open the topic?

[Grigorievich]

Quote: goose

Quote: RUS96

Shamans fought so much for her ... and achieved

It's time to call tanks like Americans or ours during WWII.
Type KV, IS, GSH - General Shamanov

Or maybe call DV-Uncle Vasya.

[satellite24]

At one time, BMD-3 and BTR-3 sang the same laudatory odes. Personally, the GDP promised that by the year 15 all junk will be changed to the third generation! Tired of hearing about the skin of a dead bear! Let at least 1000 pieces be available, otherwise only dreams will turn out!

[Pirogov]

Quote: max702

Quote: lonely

It's not about what they want to accept or not. What about finances in such a difficult time?

There is a lot of money in the country! Kohl we give out loans to all and sundry, but we buy American securities with a profitability of 0,01% per annum ... About theft at all levels and do not want to talk ..

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.................................................. ...... That is full of money, but for some reason they are distributed oddly ..............!

[Hammer]

actually there 2A72

[Cartman]

I read to mine at the kssad that everything is rather sad at the Kurgan plant, even they are delaying the salary.