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Project "ZZ". EU left to live for two months

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The affairs of a united Europe are sad. The endless entry into the EU countries of migrants seems to have been an insoluble problem for the liberal democrats. Neither Germany, nor Britain, much less Poland will not be tested by refugees. The Minister of Transport of Germany said that the time had come to lock the borders of Germany on the castle. The Minister of Internal Affairs of Germany also spoke out. He believes that the flow of refugees should be limited. In Britain, meanwhile, passed a survey of public opinion. As a result, it turned out that more and more British support the country's withdrawal from the European Union. Poland said that it took almost a million immigrants only from Ukraine. The point in the "migrant case" put the head of the European Council, Donald Tusk. With a sigh, he explained that in a couple of months the Schengen zone could collapse.


Recall the crisis due to the influx of illegal migrants wishing to obtain refugee status, broke out in the European Union in 2015 year. The flows of migrants were compared with the mass movements of citizens during the Second World War and after it.

A huge number of migrants (most of them) come to the EU from Syria, where the civil war does not stop. According to the United Nations, in the coming year, migration flows to Europe can double. The EU authorities do not agree with the UN forecasts and insist that a triple increase in the influx of migrants should be expected.

In the German political newspaper Münchner Merkur statements were made by the Minister of Transport of Germany Alexander Dobrindt. He criticized Angela Merkel’s policy and called on the Chancellor to “close the borders.”

According to him, the closure of the borders of Germany is "the most important issue for our country and for the allied states."

The minister demanded to change the political course of Angela Merkel, who was elected by her with regard to refugees, reiterated the thesis about the need to close the borders of the country and advised the entire government to “prepare plan B”.

According to the federal official, Germany has already "objectively" reached the "maximum load". Migrants do not have time to “integrate” into society, and politicians should not forget about the existing restrictions on the labor and housing markets, as well as the growing burden on the social sector. The continuation of the destructive policy will lead to the fact that migrants will put Europe "on its knees". Therefore, Merkel should send a "clear signal to the whole world." The signal is: "In search of a better life, not every person can come to Germany."

Dobirndt is convinced that the situation should be changed quickly.

Dobrindt is echoed by another German minister.

The opinion of the Minister of the Interior of Germany, Thomas de Maisiere, appeared in «Tagesspiegel».

De Maiziere says: "Migration hat auch ihre dunkle Seite" ("Migration also has its dark side").

Federal Interior Minister Thomas de Mezieres (CDU) warned of social conflicts that will escalate while maintaining an influx of refugees.

Speaking at a joint conference of the World Council of Churches and the United Nations in Geneva on refugee issues, de Mezieres said that EU authorities should seriously fear for the safety of the local population. The aliens simply threaten the locals.

The Minister of the Interior made it clear that Europe’s ability to assimilate more and more new refugees is limited. At the same time, the Minister criticized the line of conduct of other EU countries, aimed at a complete refusal to accept refugees. Many "European partners", unlike Germany, have not made their contribution to solving this problem. And the minister called for a pan-European strategy to overcome the crisis.

According to him, it is necessary to “urgently reduce” the number of refugees. The EU should better protect its external borders. In addition, the Minister of the Interior demanded tougher actions against smugglers and various businessmen engaged in transporting migrants across the Mediterranean Sea and on land.

In another speech, at the annual reception in the Catholic Diocese of the Ruhr, Thomas de Maiziere called for greater respect for people towards each other. According to him, “rudeness” has returned to German society, and “this is bad” for rallying people.

In this speech, de Maizier also spoke of the need to hold a debate on the limit of the number of refugees and the possibility of their integration.

Not silent, and Britain. Here the society has just started talking. The people are set to "Brexit" - exit from the European Union.

The latest sociological survey shocked London: it turned out that many British people want their country to leave the EU. More than half of the respondents are ready to break off relations with Brussels right now - forever. The “anti-NATO” aspirations continue to grow: they were reinforced by the recent Parisian attacks and the endless crisis with migrants, which reached the “sex attacks” in Cologne.

On a survey conducted by «Mail On Sunday», told the popular newspaper "Express". These studies show: 53% of Britons are ready to vote for the exit of Britain from the EU. 47% believe that it is necessary to remain in the EU after all.

Last May, a poll organized by the same sociologists showed almost the opposite result: 54% of the British were in favor of maintaining EU membership, and 46% were going to vote for Brexit.

The latest result indicates that the public perception of Brexit has changed, receiving as much as seven percentage points of profit in eight months.

For Prime Minister Cameron, this result turned out to be a “shock”, since he doesn’t deal with leaving the EU, but with a kind of “rebranding” of the UK as an EU member state, trying to “free” the country from certain Brussels decrees and wanting to create an “emergency brake” on migration to the UK.

Expressed on the topic of refugees and Poland.

At discussions in the European Parliament, devoted to the migration problem, spoke Beata Szydlo, Prime Minister of Poland. According to her, Poland took about one million people from Ukraine.

“I have a strong sense of responsibility for what is happening in Poland and Europe,” she quotes "Lenta.ru". - You are talking about migration and migrants. Poland received about one million refugees from Ukraine, a million that no one wanted to help. ”

According to the Polish Foreign Office, citizens of Ukraine received about 2015 thousand Polish visas in 930 in the year. However, only two Ukrainians in the past year received refugee status in Poland.

The point in the "migrant case" put the chairman of the European Council, Donald Tusk. With a sigh, he explained that in a couple of months the Schengen zone could collapse.

This is not a joke or fake. Mr Tusk’s statement on January 19 was published by the agency Reuters.


Donald Tusk, President of the European Council


According to Donald Tusk, Europe has no more than a couple of months left to take control of the migration crisis. If the EU does not do this in such a period, the Schengen zone will simply collapse from its free movement.

Tusk bluntly stated that if the EU cannot exercise proper control over its external borders, then as a political project it will “fail”.

* * *


As long as the German ministers complain about the erroneous political course of Angela Merkel, who welcomed migrants, and urged to somehow reduce the number of arrivals, or even close the borders of the country, launching "Plan B", the Poles with sighs tell about the millions of Ukrainians they have announced, and the British "Vote" in polls for "Brexit".

Donald Tusk, who chairs the European Council, only takes two months to solve the problem of the EU migration crisis.

Well, what will happen if the problem is not solved?

There will be nothing. Neither Schengen nor the EU.
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  1. cniza
    cniza 20 January 2016 08: 42 New
    +9
    The point in the "migrant case" put the chairman of the European Council, Donald Tusk. With a sigh, he explained that in a couple of months the Schengen zone could collapse.




    They bury themselves.
    1. venaya
      venaya 20 January 2016 08: 46 New
      15
      Quote: cniza
      Bury themselves

      I guess that without the help of helpers from overseas, it also could not do here.
      It’s still easier to enslave Europe in parts than this whole huge union, so they try, they drive migrants, they come up with “tolerance” and the like.
      1. Temples
        Temples 20 January 2016 08: 57 New
        30

        Well, what will happen if the problem is not solved?
        There will be nothing. Neither Schengen nor the EU.

        Rather, Tusk will not.
        Otherwise, everything will be as before.
        And do not shag grandmother.
        If they press, they will cut out these migrants and no one will even squeak.
        This is not the first time that tolerant Europe has done such things.
        Or is it in what other part of the world fascism and Nazism were born ???
        1. Ami du peuple
          Ami du peuple 20 January 2016 09: 18 New
          +7
          Quote: Temples
          If they press, they will cut out these migrants and no one will even squeak.
          This is not the first time that tolerant Europe has done such things.
          Or is it in what other part of the world fascism and Nazism were born ???

          Absolutely right. From the article: “German ministers complain about the erroneous political course of Angela Merkel, who welcomes migrants, and urge in some way to reduce the number of arrivals, or even close the borders of the country, by launching Plan B”
          They are still calling for a certain “Plan B” to be launched, but in case of dire necessity, the infamous “Cyclone B” will be launched.
          1. Geser
            Geser 20 January 2016 11: 53 New
            +5
            Europeans will not launch any “Plan B” or “Cyclone B”. Firstly, this requires a will, the consciousness that national interests are higher than some pan-European ones. Secondly, all this tolerance and liberalism, with all the so-called "European values," must be sent to hell. Then perhaps the Europeans will be able to survive, and with them, Europe. But they won’t go for it, go for it means to show that for so many years they were, to put it mildly, wrong. They will not want to look like fools around the world. They won’t do it either, because liberalism and propaganda of “Euro-values” have done their job - Europeans give birth to fewer children, the number of old people exceeds the number of young people. Yes, and I think it's too late to change something.
            1. Anatoly B
              Anatoly B 20 January 2016 13: 12 New
              11
              Not a single jihad “The womb of an Arab woman is my strongest weapon” (Yasser Arafat).
        2. Docent1984
          Docent1984 20 January 2016 09: 30 New
          11
          That's right, dear) In another part of the world. Namely in America. This obscene phenomenon was called the very harmonious word "eugenics." And the basic principles of fascism were formulated precisely in the framework of this trend at the beginning of the 20 years of the last century. At that time in Europe, Nietzsche’s works were read only at the philosophical faculties, but in the SGA "scientific" schools were already working to generate clear signs of the "correct" genetic material, there were attempts to completely sterilize mentally unhealthy people, and there is no need to talk about the situation of blacks. The fact that fascism did not originate in Europe, but was introduced from outside - this has long been an open secret)
          1. iouris
            iouris 20 January 2016 13: 14 New
            +2
            Yes, the Americans are “turned” on artificial selection. In general, this is called "scientific system management", or "efficiency - over truncation."
            For this, the "Judeo-Christian civilization" was formed in the New World: a banker - an effective manager - an effective executor - an effective marketer - an effective consumer. "
          2. Orionvit
            Orionvit 20 January 2016 23: 46 New
            +5
            Can you still say that mentally ill people can have mentally healthy offspring? And in general, sick people can have healthy offspring? No need to become like any liberal democrats, and scold eugenics. The way the Nazis used it does not mean discrediting the idea itself. Is it bad to see a healthy humanity? Or you prefer the dying homo Europe. All negative signs are inherited, if not in the first, then in the second generation for sure. They give birth to freaks, both moral and physical. against all the laws of nature, and all this falls on the shoulders of a healthy part of society (which by the way is becoming less and less, thanks to such politically correct advocates). Whoever does not like my words, let them carefully look at Europe as a model. Yes, and ask any honest geneticist what is inherited and what is not.
            1. Docent1984
              Docent1984 29 February 2016 17: 08 New
              0
              This is all very cool) I would love to hear about the fact that tomorrow tomorrow, psychos around the world will no longer be born. Let's get the recipe on top - how to do it? Kill or sterilize all who are registered? Good) Are you personally ready to do this? Personally, are you ready for a 20-year-old girl to put a bullet in her forehead just because her mother was schizophrenic? Somehow I can’t believe it ... I understand this question is acute. And even too much. 75% chance of inheritance is almost certain. But physically this problem cannot be solved ... It is one thing to convey to everyone’s head that offspring from psychos are almost always psychos. I’m personally afraid of them, like hell incense. And before the wedding, he found the opportunity to learn about all the ancestors of his wife the story of their mental health. And it’s a completely different matter - to operate with the concepts of "genetic garbage", like Professor Lorenz ...
        3. Docent1984
          Docent1984 20 January 2016 09: 30 New
          +1
          That's right, dear) In another part of the world. Namely in America. This obscene phenomenon was called the very harmonious word "eugenics." And the basic principles of fascism were formulated precisely in the framework of this trend at the beginning of the 20 years of the last century. At that time in Europe, Nietzsche’s works were read only at the philosophical faculties, but in the SGA "scientific" schools were already working to generate clear signs of the "correct" genetic material, there were attempts to completely sterilize mentally unhealthy people, and there is no need to talk about the situation of blacks. The fact that fascism did not originate in Europe, but was introduced from outside - this has long been an open secret)
        4. Azitral
          Azitral 20 January 2016 09: 57 New
          +3
          - "... they will slaughter these migrants and no one will even squeak."

          No. There is no that Europe. There is especially no one to cut. When one dad grows up to 20 years, less than 1,1 sons - the country loses its ability to expand, but is capable of short-term, fierce resistance. When it is less than 0,8, the ethnos is not able to protect itself with an “armed hand” either from an external threat or from an internal one. So who will cut someone, if that. With countries, as with people: you live, you live, you get used to it already, and then one day you get sick for the last time. I do not say that it is he, and I do not wish death to Europe.
        5. Lelek
          Lelek 20 January 2016 10: 20 New
          +1
          Quote: Temples
          Rather, Tusk will not.
          Otherwise, everything will be as before.


          Not everything is so simple, dear. Europe will never be two years ago, and 6 countries of the union have already closed their borders. At the same time, the flow of "refugees and emigrants" has not dried up, and even vice versa will increase due to the "visitors" from northern Africa, where the DAISH tumor is moving. Well, we'll see. Europe gets what it brews itself. yes
          1. andj61
            andj61 20 January 2016 11: 15 New
            +2
            Quote: Lelek
            Europe will never be two years ago, and 6 countries of the union have already closed their borders.

            Donald Tusk, who chairs the European Council, only takes two months to solve the problem of the EU migration crisis.
            Well, what will happen if the problem is not solved?
            There will be nothing. Neither Schengen nor the EU.
            Author Oleg Chuvakin

            The Schengen zone in its current form may not exist, but the EU is unlikely ... no
            The EU is, first and foremost, an economic project, and political - only secondarily. But the fact that a kind of EU re-trading has already matured is certain. yes hi
        6. Conscience
          Conscience 20 January 2016 14: 50 New
          +2
          while they chase them to cut them out - half of Europe will burn in the house ...
          this is not a Jewish sheep - they, like hyenas, will eat a fellow, so as not to die of hunger.
          all my life I see only sand and poverty - all of a sudden time there are chickens available, restaurants, bars, a casino - everything sparkles ... try to take it away!
        7. Pilot
          Pilot 20 January 2016 18: 07 New
          0
          Quote: Temples
          Otherwise, everything will be as before.

          Provided that without Ukraine.
        8. nick_826
          nick_826 20 January 2016 19: 08 New
          +1
          And didn’t you think that such an amount would already be difficult to “cut out”? One thing the Nazis hurt Jews - those are calm (relatively). And these guys quickly slip into a pocket for a word (knife). You look at our Caucasians, for example. And yet - the Jews were assimilated, and therefore thought that they would eventually be understood and regretted (but then it became too late). And there is nothing to lose, and they don’t put Europeans in ... wow.
          1. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 20 January 2016 19: 47 New
            +2
            Quote: nick_826
            And didn’t you think that such an amount would already be difficult to “cut out”?

            pfff in 1915 Turks slaughtered about 1 million Armenians
            1. nick_826
              nick_826 21 January 2016 06: 36 New
              0
              Well, you compared the Turk and the tolerant burgher ;-)
      2. Alexei
        Alexei 20 January 2016 08: 59 New
        +7
        Quote: venaya
        It’s still easier to enslave Europe in parts than this whole huge union, so they try, they drive migrants, they come up with “tolerance” and the like.

        No need to enslave Europe, they need it to fight. And after the influx of refugees, the Europeans, terrified at all, accustomed to well-fed calm, will support the radical parties. And the radical parties, after dealing with refugees, will be looking for someone else to deal with. And there, even before the war, it is not far.
        1. Mavrikiy
          Mavrikiy 20 January 2016 10: 42 New
          +2
          I completely agree with you. And the enslavement of Europe has long happened through the EU, controlled by the United States. Radical parties will create Reich No. 4 and drang nah osten. Everything is easier than steamed turnips.
          Well, now they will no longer let them in, so what? Europe will digest already entered? Never. They will blow up Europe and there will be a mutual wave of terror.
      3. Leviton
        Leviton 20 January 2016 09: 26 New
        +1
        Quote: venaya
        Quote: cniza
        Bury themselves

        I guess that without the help of helpers from overseas, it also could not do here.
        It’s still easier to enslave Europe in parts than this whole huge union, so they try, they drive migrants, they come up with “tolerance” and the like.

        For mattresses, the main thing is for the EU to weaken, the rest is just the opposite ... for the same reason, it’s much easier to take one politician from one state for eggs, so that he dictates the will to the rest of the “alliance” and, in addition, feed his eternal slimes to Poland, Baltic, Bulgaria ....
        And the rest is the principle of capturing markets and everything is beautiful winked
        1. Azitral
          Azitral 20 January 2016 13: 03 New
          +3
          I am about the "capture of the markets." This is NOT a provocation, a matter of substance. What will the US trade in captured markets? The processor and weapon markets, in general, already belong to them. But other? What mass production can they put on the market? The fact is that I do not see any mass US goods in everyday life. The poor take Chinese and Malaysian, the rich take French, German, British, Japanese. The middle class is South Korean. Whatever you take, someone is doing either better or cheaper. To do "American" in Burma, Bengal, Vietnam - this, as it turned out on the example of China, Korea, etc., is an extremely harmless affair. Not to mention quality. So what is the market for? To trade in oil and gas, like a raw material "rashka"? But what about the "oil needle"?
          1. Cap.Morgan
            Cap.Morgan 20 January 2016 23: 51 New
            +2
            So the main thing is how much it costs. Some military aircraft are estimated at hundreds of millions.
            It’s like a few goods packed tightly with Chinese jeans.
            But not only that. More medicine and services market. Banking, insurance sector. It seems they do not produce anything, but they have a product.
            1. Azitral
              Azitral 21 January 2016 01: 33 New
              0
              I started from this. The arms market already belongs to them, some other high-tech products (an ever smaller share, agree). They don’t have to say that medicine is the first in the world (I’m a doctor, I was there). Services and so on. So which markets will they get EXTRA? In my opinion - no. This is probably why the TTIP drove as easily as a greased one: well, the Asians of the US manufacturers are not afraid of competition! The process is well, with very two-way traffic. I do not belong to those who say that the USA will collapse and crumble tomorrow, but there are no goods on sale, this is a fact.
      4. Sid.74
        Sid.74 20 January 2016 09: 54 New
        +6
        And also the "Main Camp" became wildly popular in Germany. what
      5. aleks 62 next
        aleks 62 next 20 January 2016 13: 01 New
        +2
        .... I think that without the help of helpers from overseas, it also could not have done. ...

        .... Without the help of "Erdogan" could not do ..... lol
    2. vlad66
      vlad66 20 January 2016 09: 05 New
      32
      EU authorities do not agree with HE forecasts and assure that a triple increase in the influx of migrants should be expected.

      Dill strove for lace underpants, and soon will have to learn Islam. fellow
      1. 222222
        222222 20 January 2016 10: 43 New
        +2
        Sid.74 (1) RU Today, 09: 54 ↑ New
        And also "Mine Camph" has become wildly popular in Germany for reading ... "
        easier than steamed turnips !! laughing
        ..new times, because of the Bugr, they push Europe together with Germany ..... to Nazism .. and then with hope .. "nah osten." solving their selfish economic problems ..
      2. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 20 January 2016 10: 47 New
        +3
        In the EU, "Dill strove for lace underpants." I’ll clarify: they’ll get Paranju.
        And what they deserve, deserve it.
    3. Tatar 174
      Tatar 174 20 January 2016 09: 52 New
      +1
      Quote: cniza
      Bury themselves

      But first, they themselves created the conditions or helped create these conditions, so that people in large numbers began to leave their places of residence. They themselves at least understand why they are doing this ??? Well stupid!
    4. vitvdv75
      vitvdv75 20 January 2016 10: 39 New
      +3
      But what about fucking tolerance, tolerance, and other Eurosnow?
    5. oblako
      oblako 20 January 2016 11: 10 New
      +1
      The United States is not interested in a united, strong and independent Europe. The algorithm means the old - "divide and conquer." And everything that happens means that the process has begun ... it’s possible to ruin not only Yugoslavia, Ukraine, the USSR ... everything is as written.
  2. Hubun
    Hubun 20 January 2016 08: 44 New
    +4
    There will be no EU will not become euro? In general, of course, there they all cherish. What would a little depart from the image of the arbiters of fate, like their overseas partner
  3. Sasha75
    Sasha75 20 January 2016 08: 46 New
    28
    So such opposites gathered, from the very beginning there wasn’t just everything on the money.
  4. avvg
    avvg 20 January 2016 08: 47 New
    +8
    Very interesting: Where will Ukraine strive when the EU breaks up?
    1. cniza
      cniza 20 January 2016 08: 55 New
      +7
      Quote: avvg
      Very interesting: Where will Ukraine strive when the EU breaks up?



      She already strives into the void, even if E.S. will stay.
    2. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 20 January 2016 09: 13 New
      +2
      The EU has not yet collapsed, so we will not share the skin of an unkilled bear
      1. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 20 January 2016 10: 51 New
        +2
        Vasilenko Vladimir
        "The EU has not yet collapsed, so we will not share the skin of an unkilled bear"
        Dear optimist, we need to figure out how it will look?
        1. Oldwiser
          Oldwiser 20 January 2016 16: 46 New
          0
          Quote: Mavrikiy
          what will it look like?

          Like in the movie - "Mad Max"
      2. Azitral
        Azitral 20 January 2016 13: 09 New
        +2
        Yes, let it remain, I am only in favor. You need to want a second cow for yourself, and not a neighbor’s death. We are from the collapse of Europe, by and large, neither cold nor hot. A little better, a little worse.
  5. Al_oriso
    Al_oriso 20 January 2016 08: 48 New
    +3
    A few more months, and the Europeans themselves will have to integrate with refugees.
  6. Kolka82
    Kolka82 20 January 2016 08: 49 New
    +2
    It seems that the project "ЗЗ" from the stage P (design) passes into the RP (working draft), and there the construction itself inevitably follows!
  7. 33 Watcher
    33 Watcher 20 January 2016 08: 51 New
    +6
    Uh, no. They will fight for the EU to the end; they owe too much to each other there. No one, no one just released. They will preserve this union, even if they are dead, but they will.
    1. cap
      cap 20 January 2016 10: 24 New
      +1
      Quote: Observer 33
      Uh, no. They will fight for the EU to the end; they owe too much to each other there. No one, no one just released. They will preserve this union, even if they are dead, but they will.


      It seems to me that the US hand is present here. I can’t negotiate with the EU as a whole, they will negotiate with each separately. This is about the Atlantic Partnership. For the states, the most important question is. Hegemony is in all their creed.
      1. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 20 January 2016 10: 59 New
        +2
        cap
        "It is impossible to agree with the EU as a whole, they will negotiate with each individually."
        Pipes! The United States has a fully controlled EU that needs to be broken and TAPok too. And with each individual, you will go crazy. Each has its own conditions. Then they will need to be agreed between the countries of Europe! Contradictions removed.
        Only while on the heap!
  8. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 20 January 2016 08: 54 New
    +2
    “Migration also has its dark side”

    It is strange that common truth began to reach just now. First, the flywheel was untwisted (including by its participation in the BV bankruptcy), and when it began to gain momentum, moreover, intensively and using its inertia, they tried to stop it. But this attempt will cause significant harm to those who launched, and now is trying to stick a hand into this colossus.
  9. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 20 January 2016 08: 55 New
    +2
    Oh, these fortune tellers! How was it there? Dembel is inevitable, like the collapse of capitalism. laughing
    1. Azitral
      Azitral 21 January 2016 01: 35 New
      +1
      And what is wrong with the demobilization?
  10. izya top
    izya top 20 January 2016 08: 55 New
    +3
    Donald Tusk. With a sigh, he explained that in a couple of months the Schengen zone could collapse.
    But what about visa-free travel? crying Putin, stop! bully
  11. midivan
    midivan 20 January 2016 08: 57 New
    +3
    Well, what will happen if the problem is not solved?
    There will be nothing. Neither Schengen nor the EU.
    yes, if you decide, I think you should not forget in what conditions “refugees” live, judging by the TV I personally haven’t seen of course, in those towns new diseases from colds to sexually transmitted diseases seem to be just around the corner so the Europeans will be fastening soon summer wink
  12. Woodman
    Woodman 20 January 2016 08: 58 New
    +5
    The project of a united Europe could not stand the first serious test ... Europeans too played in tolerance and democracy ...
    1. midivan
      midivan 20 January 2016 09: 06 New
      +2
      Quote: Lesovik
      The project of a united Europe could not stand the first serious test ... Europeans too played in tolerance and democracy ...

      laughing but it started like theirs! it seems as if it’s harmless, you’re a man and I’m a man, I’m you, Whack-Whack, Whack-Whack bully we will lay bones but we will not allow tolerance angry!
  13. Gomunkul
    Gomunkul 20 January 2016 09: 02 New
    +2
    Well, what will happen if the problem is not solved?
    Yes, something like *** on this EU and its problems, let Poroshenko and Co. suffer from this, they had a dream about joining the EU, which will remain a dream. laughing
  14. Same lech
    Same lech 20 January 2016 09: 08 New
    17
    No wonder the EU building resembles the BABYLON TOWER.
    The biblical story is becoming a reality.
    1. gramatey
      gramatey 20 January 2016 19: 07 New
      0
      This is not an accident. The e-parliament architect, he said, was inspired by this particular picture. In general, the contradictions in the symbolism of the EU are very great. So, the atheistic symbol of this tower coexists with a flag with 12 stars - the symbol of the "wife clothed in the sun" - the Christian church. Again duplicity?
      1. Vladimir73
        Vladimir73 21 January 2016 15: 14 New
        0
        Quote: gramatey
        it’s not an accident. The e-parliament architect, he said, was inspired by this particular picture. In general, the contradictions in the symbolism of the EU are very great. So, the atheistic symbol of this tower coexists with a flag with 12 stars - the symbol of the "wife clothed in the sun" - the Christian church. Again duplicity?


        You are right - not an accident, but Satanism ...
  15. sa-ag
    sa-ag 20 January 2016 09: 10 New
    +2
    Even if the EU orders to live for a long time, then nothing special will happen, they lived before it and nobody complained that they had a bad life
  16. Sinecote
    Sinecote 20 January 2016 09: 12 New
    0
    I read somewhere that in America already 60% of the population have a dark complexion, and by 2050, almost 100% will be descendants of the Negroid race. I feel that soon such events will also capture Europe.
    1. andj61
      andj61 20 January 2016 11: 29 New
      +2
      Quote: Sinecote
      I read somewhere that in America already 60% of the population have a dark complexion, and by 2050, almost 100% will be descendants of the Negroid race. I feel that soon such events will also capture Europe.

      This is still a bit dumb. Most are white. True, in the USA the concept of “white” is somewhat different from ours.

      White. A person descended from any of the indigenous peoples of Europe, the Middle East or North Africa. It includes people who designate their race as “white” or report that they are Irish, Germans, Italians, Lebanese, Middle Easterners, Arabs, Poles, etc. ”

      That is, in the United States, Arabs, Turks, etc. - also white. Although the general trend, of course, is the place to be.
      Race composition as estimated by the US Census Bureau for 2011:
      Total: 311 591 917
      white - 78,1%
      (including 16,7% of Hispanics)
      blacks - 13,1%
      Indians, Aleuts and Eskimos - 1,2%
      Asians - 5,0%
      Native Hawaiians or other inhabitants of Oceania - 0,2%
      Two or more nationalities - 2,3%
      1. Sinecote
        Sinecote 20 January 2016 11: 49 New
        0
        Quote: andj61
        Quote: Sinecote
        I read somewhere that in America already 60% of the population have a dark complexion, and by 2050, almost 100% will be descendants of the Negroid race. I feel that soon such events will also capture Europe.

        This is still a bit dumb. Most are white. True, in the USA the concept of “white” is somewhat different from ours.

        White. A person descended from any of the indigenous peoples of Europe, the Middle East or North Africa. It includes people who designate their race as “white” or report that they are Irish, Germans, Italians, Lebanese, Middle Easterners, Arabs, Poles, etc. ”

        That is, in the United States, Arabs, Turks, etc. - also white. Although the general trend, of course, is the place to be.
        Race composition as estimated by the US Census Bureau for 2011:
        Total: 311 591 917
        white - 78,1%
        (including 16,7% of Hispanics)
        blacks - 13,1%
        Indians, Aleuts and Eskimos - 1,2%
        Asians - 5,0%
        Native Hawaiians or other inhabitants of Oceania - 0,2%
        Two or more nationalities - 2,3%

        I agree, but still here are the data for 2015:
        As of January 1, 2015, out of 316 US residents (including immigrants), there are (according to the method of Brook S.I.):

        Americans - 192 509 100 people (including 38 648 700 - African Americans)
        Mexicans - 34
        Italians - 8 710 000
        Germans - 6 552 700
        Poles - 6
        Jews - 5 (including 695 - Jews of Israel)
        Puerto Ricans - 5 103 100
        Chinese - 3
        Filipinos - 2
        Irish - 2
        Indo-Pakistanis - 2
        Indians - 2
        Cubans - 2 020 000
        Vietnamese - 1
        Salvadorans - 1
        French Canadians - 1
        Koreans - 1 455 100
        Dominicans - 1 420 000
        Arabs - 1 502 300
        Russians - 1
        Africans - 1 305 000
        Even if not 60%, but even less white Americans remain. As you can see, in America there are now quite a few representatives of the Mongoloid race. And even more than a million Russians! How they counted them there so much. Now in America, representatives of 4 out of 5 races live. The only thing missing is the australoid.
        But white Americans are slightly more than half. If you compare your and my statistics, you can see that the number of white inhabitants of America is decreasing.
  17. Ros 56
    Ros 56 20 January 2016 09: 14 New
    +4
    If Tusk is right and the EU falls apart, what will Ukraine do. They were eager for the goal through a severance of relations with Russia, through the destruction of their economies, through the killing of people, and suddenly zrad. No EU, no panties, no industry, no work. Nowhere to strive. Rabbits, gunpowder and other clowns will leave, this is understandable. They have over the hill, bank accounts, real estate, etc. And what will the other jumpers do, where will they jump. After all, it is necessary to restore everything, and for what shisha. America and Europe do not need them, if only to grab something. Again to us, and ours, as always, will start a record about the fraternal people. What are your thoughts on this?
    1. sa-ag
      sa-ag 20 January 2016 09: 16 New
      +2
      Quote: Ros 56
      And what will the other jumpers do, where will they jump.

      To Europe, who to Poland, who to Italy, in general who where, the dream will just change
    2. 33 Watcher
      33 Watcher 20 January 2016 09: 30 New
      +2
      Thoughts? Simple: All traitors finish the same way.
    3. Senior manager
      Senior manager 20 January 2016 09: 55 New
      +4
      A brotherly people by blood, but by mentality ... somehow there is no word, not a Russian soul, let’s say so. Gently put it, because the aggressive, Galician-Bandera minority has become the face of the country, and normal people are not visible. But they are.
    4. Vladimir73
      Vladimir73 21 January 2016 15: 20 New
      0
      Quote: Ros 56
      If Tusk is right and the EU falls apart, what will Ukraine do.


      They will blame Putin for everything and say that "they didn’t obey us, they didn’t support us and Putin ruined Europe. We have to fight, or it will ruin us." The only question is - how much for these words they will begin to receive in the face ...
  18. Taygerus
    Taygerus 20 January 2016 09: 15 New
    +2
    because they fought for it and ran into it, there was nothing to destroy whole countries, for that reason nothing could happen to them, they were sitting there overseas and the EU called for tolerance, well, I don’t feel sorry for them
  19. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 20 January 2016 09: 15 New
    +1
    I think the issue will be resolved very soon

    this product diverges like hot cakes, even an extra print run
    1. Ros 56
      Ros 56 20 January 2016 09: 35 New
      +1
      Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
      this product diverges like hot cakes

      If I'm not mistaken, this is Mine Camph
      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 20 January 2016 09: 46 New
        0
        make no mistake new edition
    2. Rivares
      Rivares 20 January 2016 15: 41 New
      0
      Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

      this product diverges like hot cakes

      Interesting. Those who read will understand that this work in their conditions will cause a civil war or a change of government.
      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 20 January 2016 16: 00 New
        +1
        so maybe this was the solution to the problem?
  20. Sinecote
    Sinecote 20 January 2016 09: 17 New
    -11
    Quote: Gomunkul
    Well, what will happen if the problem is not solved?
    Yes, something like *** on this EU and its problems, let Poroshenko and Co. suffer from this, they had a dream about joining the EU, which will remain a dream. laughing

    Poroshenko will never suffer from this. Refugees will now go to Ukraine only under pain of death. In Ukraine, moral values ​​became European, but life remained savdepovskim.
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 20 January 2016 09: 21 New
      19
      Quote: Sinecote
      and life remained savdepovsky.

      for this and minus, the Soviets are on the censor, and here bother to respect the country in which many of the forum participants were born
      1. Sinecote
        Sinecote 20 January 2016 09: 42 New
        -1
        I was also born in Ukraine, in the Crimea. And I can’t say that I lived badly. Under Yanukovych, he generally received a ticket to a sanatorium. But one must face the truth and not turn away. And about censorship ... Well, I didn’t know that the words "Soviet department" were forbidden. I quoted Mikhail Zadornov. Although he generally spoke about Russia. Our situation is similar. Chasing Europe, but not in that.
        1. Vitaly72
          Vitaly72 20 January 2016 10: 01 New
          +2
          "You didn’t understand anything, George Mary" (c)
        2. lwxx
          lwxx 20 January 2016 10: 31 New
          +5
          Sovdep is abbreviated council of deputies, not the "Soviet department" tongue . And your words resemble the words "daughter of an officer." Maybe you are the son of an officer? bully
          1. Sinecote
            Sinecote 20 January 2016 11: 24 New
            -1
            I confuse, confused. Although such a concept also exists ... But this does not change the matter.
            1. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 20 January 2016 12: 23 New
              +1
              changes how
        3. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 20 January 2016 12: 22 New
          +2
          Quote: Sinecote
          I also в Ukraine was born

          if "B" then there are no questions
          Quote: Sinecote
          And as for censorship ... Well, I didn’t know that the words "Soviet department" were forbidden.

          I'm sorry did you drink something ?!
          the Soviet department and "sovdepiya" are somewhat different concepts and there is no need to play the fool
          1. Sinecote
            Sinecote 20 January 2016 12: 46 New
            0
            Sorry, mixed up!
      2. Sinecote
        Sinecote 20 January 2016 10: 05 New
        -4
        You would be better forced to respect Ukraine those who call Ukrainians Ukrainians and Benders. And I lived in Ukraine for a long time, unlike you. Why am I insulting myself?
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 20 January 2016 12: 24 New
          +2
          Quote: Sinecote
          Ukraine those who Ukrainians call Khokhlov and Bender

          Bandera called those who consider him a hero.
          I will repeat again in this "B" all answers
          1. Sinecote
            Sinecote 20 January 2016 12: 54 New
            -1
            Do not think that I support the Ukrainian government. In my first comment, on the contrary, I accused them of lying about a good life in Europe, and trampling people into the mud. Maybe I didn’t say it very nicely.

            "Bandera called those who consider him a hero."
            Excuse me, "his" is whom? Bandera?
            1. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 20 January 2016 13: 18 New
              0
              Quote: Sinecote
              Excuse me, "his" is whom? Bandera?

              well enough already, is this your expression of charity?
        2. Ros 56
          Ros 56 20 January 2016 13: 05 New
          +2
          Quote: Sinecote
          You would be better forced to respect Ukraine


          You yourself understood what you wrote. You can respect someone for something, but to force yourself to respect, this is too much.
          1. Sinecote
            Sinecote 20 January 2016 13: 14 New
            -1
            I was accused of insulting Ukraine. I then apologized and advised them to blame those who called Ukrainians Ukrainians. In my opinion, everything is logical.
            1. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 20 January 2016 13: 33 New
              0
              Quote: Sinecote
              who calls Ukrainians Ukrainians. In my opinion, everything is logical.

              not only didn’t understand, but also forgot that they wrote
            2. Ros 56
              Ros 56 20 January 2016 17: 27 New
              +2
              Quote: Sinecote
              who calls Ukrainians Ukrainians.


              And why is it insulting, our name is Katz ..... Yes, and at work we call someone ho ... so it's loving, and no offense.
              My wife is a purebred Khokhlushka, and so what, sometimes she will rest, but I’m "at ho ... nasty." You are too fixated on this. Be simpler and people will reach for you.
        3. olegkrava
          olegkrava 20 January 2016 14: 08 New
          +4
          No, you do not insult yourself; you lack a sense of pride. Walking around the world and asking for pennies is closer to a market beggar. About respect, I hope that Krajina did not forget Muscovite ...- faces. What respect are we talking about? Long lived, how much? For example, I’m 20 years old and they call me Khokhl, but I don’t go and do not dry the door to the one who calls me that. Ukraine has lost its coast, climbed into a corner, and from there it looks at everyone with envy and anger, since even in Moldova they live better than in this incomprehensible state. Respect your neighbors and you will be happy to live in peace and prosperity.
    2. GRIG
      GRIG 20 January 2016 11: 51 New
      +8
      Quote: Sinecote
      In Ukraine, moral values ​​became European, but life remained savdepovskim.

      Tell it to the children of Donbass, burnt in Odessa, or torn to shreds by mines of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
      And on the other side you can hang noodles about ATO cripples thrown by the state about this.
      Or maybe "European values" is the level of corruption and theft coming from the very top of the ukrokhunta?
      Trying to cling to someone’s “moral values” and at the same time not even understand them, not that they should be followed, this is so in Ukrainian.

      And you can not dissolve whining about your sovdepovsky life. You had 25 years of independence after the Union. What they set up, gave birth to / spawn, and chose for themselves in the hetmans, now now and slurp to the fullest. And without snotty compassionate, especially towards Russia.
      Quote: Sinecote
      Poroshenko will never suffer from this.

      And it is right. Let those who rode for him on the Maidan suffer. Another time they’ll think about who to bounce for, provided that there is something to think about.
      1. Sinecote
        Sinecote 20 January 2016 12: 40 New
        0
        Yes, you do not understand. European values ​​are the redrawing of education and culture (I recently saw on TV that they want to celebrate Christmas together with the Catholic Church), and the people both lived and still live badly, and the junta is chewing. From Kiev they shout about a bright European society, but they themselves continue to rob people. I wanted to say that Ukraine will enter or not enter the EU, corruption will never disappear. And always these stooges of Washington will try to finish off all the Slavs in Ukraine. As for the council of deputies: then everything was taken from people and now they are being kicked. That is what I wanted to say. And if you thought that I was a supporter of the modern Ukrainian government or the notorious European values, then no, no, and not a thousand more times!
        I was accused of disrespect for Ukraine. You say the opposite. Decide already! I don’t know what I should write a rebuttal to!
  21. Zomanus
    Zomanus 20 January 2016 09: 19 New
    +2
    This is where the weakness of the EU is manifested — the need to coordinate everything together.
    In peacetime, it was possible to gather people, discuss everything for a long time ...
    And now you need to act quickly, stepping on someone's ... throat.
    But that the rest would be alive and there was a chance to return everything.
    But this will not work, now there are sure to be a couple ... not-so-distant,
    who will continue to blow about humanism and equality.
    So either a “bet” is created that will rigidly bend the rest for itself, making the necessary decisions.
    Or they continue to procrastinate the topic of humanism and equality, waiting for the collapse of the EU.
  22. cyberspace
    cyberspace 20 January 2016 09: 19 New
    10
    Migrants do not have time to "integrate" into society,
    Migrants are not going to integrate into society, they want to "integrate" society for themselves, so Europe has all the fun ahead. Cologne is just petty pranks and a pen test.
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 20 January 2016 09: 27 New
      +3
      I quietly suspect that the migrant to European society is violet in principle, there is none and they are not going to integrate it for themselves

      if the Germans (and besides them in Europe, in fact, no one else) stop playing tolerance, then the next Moor will not be in Cyprus but in Cologne
  23. askort154
    askort154 20 January 2016 09: 26 New
    +3
    The time is coming when the world, gradually, begins to realize that the withdrawal of the USSR from the world stage was catastrophic for stability in world geopolitics. There was a balance between the USA and the USSR. There remains the United States, which is not able to maintain world governance through "democracy" and the "dollar", and therefore is forced to go through "controlled chaos." Divide and conquer, and where they oppose, organize chaos.
    This will continue until a counterweight reappears.
  24. Signaller
    Signaller 20 January 2016 09: 29 New
    -1
    I remember the 70s and 80s. We were told at every intersection, such as the West is decaying and soon everything will fall apart. And what we see --- the USSR fell apart, and the West somehow "blossoms and smells". Personally, I think that we should not be seduced by all this. It's like the song says: "You told me fairy tales, but I did not believe you." So I relate to this.
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 20 January 2016 09: 30 New
      +8
      Quote: Signaller
      USSR collapsed

      between dropped and dropped there are two big differences
      1. Azitral
        Azitral 21 January 2016 01: 53 New
        +1
        Allowed to drop himself. again fairy tales about "betrayal"? So, the presence of traitors is not so much the cause as the consequence of the decline, and the presence of traitors in power is a sign, if not of a radical depravity of the system, of fundamental errors in construction.
    2. Hyppopotut
      Hyppopotut 20 January 2016 09: 51 New
      +5
      "and the West like that all" blossoms and smells ""
      It depends on what is meant by the term "blooms."
      And it smells - not just smells, but sorry stinks!
  25. Million
    Million 20 January 2016 09: 34 New
    +5
    War is a conflict between political entities - states, tribes, political groups and so on - taking place in the form of armed confrontation, military (combat) actions between their armed forces. The purpose of the war is the survival or destruction of the enemy.

    As a rule, war has the means of imposing one’s will on an opponent. One subject of politics is trying by force to change the behavior of another, to force him to give up his freedom, ideology, property rights, give resources: territory, water area and more.


    What is the difference from the current situation in Europe? And without a single shot!
    1. Just BB
      Just BB 20 January 2016 12: 12 New
      +1
      Totally agree!
      "Peaceful occupation" - while "squeezing" the territory. In some places they are establishing their order through not subordinating to the local law and order, and they are already taking over the local authorities. Soon, thanks to "tolerance" they will start the supreme one.
      It is foolish to consider today's situation as a simple refugee migration!
      Well-planned operation, multi-way and "long-playing."
      The main thing is that the "strategist" hid behind the "big water" and is very able to "catch fish in troubled waters"
  26. The gentleman
    The gentleman 20 January 2016 09: 43 New
    +1
    the fact that the EU will not last long was said before, everyone was just waiting. Well, everyone does not want to be tolerasts. given that "there are enough of their own problems," everything will be in one place. Further, countries will already spit on EU directives and will be "friends" with whoever they want. in particular with the Russian Federation. the second half of 2016 is the restoration of the Russian Federation.
  27. Dr. Barmaley
    Dr. Barmaley 20 January 2016 09: 43 New
    10
    There will be nothing. Neither Schengen nor the EU.
    1. kizhe
      kizhe 20 January 2016 10: 12 New
      +3
      So I want to make a hole.
      1. engineer74
        engineer74 20 January 2016 10: 59 New
        +3
        Quote: kizhe
        So I want to make a hole.

        Torpedo ... am
    2. Baloo
      Baloo 20 January 2016 12: 17 New
      +1
      Uncle not de Mazay, Uncle Gerasim. That's just the "Refugees" have not yet understood this. The difference between the exchange value of the dollar and the euro is steadily decreasing, following the political instability, the ghost of the scribe is stolen, the economic collapse is irreplaceable.
      What will the "refugees" do with the guests? Will they be sent to banderkarina and poland to fight with us?
  28. engineer74
    engineer74 20 January 2016 09: 46 New
    +7
    Late Europeans thought - even if right now to close the border tightly, nothing will change!
    Let’s take an abstract million refugees from BW who have received official status, after a year - “family reunion” and they are already 3-4 million, after three years children and at least 8 million of them appear, after 20 years about 15 million FULL active citizens of the EUROPEAN country and the EU with arab mentality! All point!
    Even the concentration camps then will no longer help, because it is not known who will be in them!
    IMHO
  29. meriem1
    meriem1 20 January 2016 09: 50 New
    +4
    Germany has already “objectively” reached its “ultimate load”. Migrants do not have time to "integrate" into society, and politicians should not forget about the existing restrictions on the labor and housing markets, as well as about the growing burden on the social sector.

    And who said that migrants are going to integrate ??? They are Europe blind. Erdogan was poured money. And how will they control their spending ??? He laughs at them without hiding ...
  30. dr. sem
    dr. sem 20 January 2016 09: 51 New
    +4
    The de facto EU funeral began with the arrival of the first batch of migrants ... They just say goodbye to the deceased for a long time.
  31. Nikolay71
    Nikolay71 20 January 2016 09: 51 New
    +2
    The fact that the EU in its present form would fall apart sooner or later was understandable without Tusk. Too bulky structure. But the Old Europeans, primarily Germany and France, can maintain some kind of supranational unification.
    1. tehnic
      tehnic 20 January 2016 14: 18 New
      0
      Any UNION is a temporary phenomenon. Almost all of them break up, which is what history has been saying for millennia. And what is especially natural, all former allies subsequently become enemies.
  32. polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 20 January 2016 09: 57 New
    +4
    It turns out as in the proverb: "Got played ... on the violin!" , and for Russia now it’s important not under any pretext not to allow yourself to be involved in this bodyag, including, in any case, not to take back from Norway those 5 thousand refugees who arrived there through our Murmansk. The priority should now be, as the GDP said, import substitution, the creation of competitive products based on the development of high-tech industry, and the development of agriculture, which will naturally contribute to raising the living standards of the country's population.
    1. engineer74
      engineer74 20 January 2016 10: 09 New
      +4
      Just Russia, objectively, has all the conditions for receiving refugees: centuries-old experience of integrating various ethnic groups, cultures and religions, lack of labor, vast territories ... wink But it’s cold with us, there is no allowance of 300 € and “he who doesn’t work doesn’t eat!”, So they don’t come to us!
      And in general, well, bye, in FIG!
      1. Azitral
        Azitral 21 January 2016 01: 59 New
        +1
        Any number of Arabs can be sent to Central Siberia. Especially in winter, in uninhabited places, no closer than three hundred kilometers from the nearest city. No migration crisis, I guarantee.
  33. Stinger
    Stinger 20 January 2016 10: 09 New
    0
    It is unlikely. But some changes will be for sure.
  34. mark2
    mark2 20 January 2016 10: 18 New
    +3
    Reading the news about the flow of refugees from the countries destroyed by the "most exclusive" and their sixes, as well as the suffering of the unfortunate Europeans, for some reason no one writes that it would probably be time to gather the whole World and finally solve the problem. The UN and Europe are trying to fight the symptoms, but not the disease. If it’s so hard for everyone, maybe it’s enough to engage in garbage, but to make an effort on yourself and help those countries that they destroyed?
    I am not saying just to give money. They are stolen. And clearly, systematically solve the problem of raising their economy.
    Destroy the whole of ISIS, make the locals just work hard, like damned, to rebuild their country. And the perpetrators of the humanitarian catastrophe pay all this and make sure that the funds go to the cause, and not to enrich the local princes.
    But none of the politicians can even think of such a thing. Because global geopolitical thinking is limited only by the interests of a particular country, of which these politicians are representatives. No one thinks at the level of the Planet. All at the discretion of providence, where the curve will lead.
    But without this problem can not be solved. The earth has become too small. And geopolitics suddenly became regional.
    After all, everyone understands that the flow of refugees will not stop until the processes that destroy these countries stop in the countries of imposed democracy.
    Return to the source will not work. So you need to come up with something new. But the current generation of politicians is not able to come up with something more global, except as the promotion of liberal values. Maybe people should refuse about the priority of the individual over society, and put society in priority. It will be good for society - it will be good for every member of society. And it turns out that 1% of the planet’s population own resources equal to the total resources of 3.5 billion people. That's what we have come to! Congratulate everyone.
    And to those who can object immediately I will answer that you NEVER enter the very 1%.
    If nothing changes, then human civilization is doomed to degradation and self-destruction.
    1. engineer74
      engineer74 20 January 2016 10: 53 New
      +1
      One hundred pluses would put you! good
      I can only add that it was WE who successfully buried the alternative civilization project (with the help from the outside or not - no difference)! And, therefore, to do a new project, taking into account the successes and failures of the previous one, is also US!
  35. Seraphimamur
    Seraphimamur 20 January 2016 10: 18 New
    +2
    Mein Kampf and nationalist sentiment became popular in Germany. Now they began to interfere with visiting Muslims. Prior to this, they were prevented from living by the French or Jews, but for some reason everything ended in a war with Russia.
  36. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 20 January 2016 10: 41 New
    +1
    The EU is united only by sodomy - both sexual and, to an even greater extent, brain sodomy. laughing
  37. evge-malyshev
    evge-malyshev 20 January 2016 10: 53 New
    +1
    There will be nothing. Neither Schengen nor the EU.

    Schengen m. and will not, but the EU will not go anywhere.
  38. Belousov
    Belousov 20 January 2016 11: 10 New
    0
    The EU will not fall apart anywhere, no one will let it fall apart, they will retain the appearance of a united Europe, and in fact they have long been sitting under the black heel.
  39. uskrabut
    uskrabut 20 January 2016 11: 28 New
    +1
    This is what the Naglosaxon approach to interfering in the affairs of third countries leads to. Instead of imposing democracy, such countries need help in developing industry in order to raise the standard of living of their citizens. “It is better to feed, then they will not fly away”, if they still do not shoot, then who will lose their place of habitability.
  40. Megatron
    Megatron 20 January 2016 11: 38 New
    0
    I would like to discuss on the topic - which is more profitable for us:

    - EU collapse into small countries
    - or still its conservation.

    Personally, I have not yet been able to weigh all the pros and cons.
    1. Gormenghast
      Gormenghast 20 January 2016 14: 20 New
      0
      Of course, the collapse.

      There will be no European Commission = there will be no single gas market + slingshots against the construction of pipelines and nuclear power plants.

      There will be no ECB = there will be no feeding of Russophobic Baltic countries and Poland; let them earn money (the USA will not support; this honorable function is transferred to the EU).

      There will be no single currency = national currencies will weaken (except for the German mark, but its growth = decline in competitiveness).

      There will be no sanctions.

      There will be no European Parliament = there will be no anti-Russian educational resolutions.

      Centrifugal trends in NATO will intensify; Bye - Do you want to join NATO? join the EU (not strictly enforced, but there is a correlation).

      There will be no carrot for Moldova, Georgia, Ukraine and even for Turkobes.

      Many things will not be.
  41. gg.na
    gg.na 20 January 2016 11: 56 New
    +2
    Of course, the situation is escalating, in the EU people do not want to be already tolerant (it seems that they have drunk on this tolerance). A night of “long knives" may begin, only those refugees who are weak (children, women, old people) will walk those same refugees who are most aggressive and radical, they will not suffer or in minimal numbers (a hundred, laughing one and a half) But after that there will be a blood feud (jihad) and that means there will be seas of blood, moreover, the same least weak inhabitants (children, etc.) and at least the same Germany! There will be a lot of terrorist attacks and other bloody actions! Although if you look, this is the intent of the partners from behind the puddle! They need a frightened, silent europ. what something like that in my opinion. Although I could be wrong repeat !
  42. Selevc
    Selevc 20 January 2016 12: 16 New
    +1
    Ahh ... The euro-kenguryatnik is bursting at the seams ... Well, rightly so, you have a good deal ... It is very short-sighted, naive and stupid to sunbathe in the sun, to gobble up and crap on neighbors - when in the neighborhood death collects its plentiful harvest ...
    Major terrorist attacks in Europe are only a matter of time - and in the very near future ... And the "best of the best" European politicians, as always, have no time - they are too violently imitating heated activities !!!
  43. VB
    VB 20 January 2016 12: 54 New
    +1
    There all of them and the road and the Ukrainians to visit them and more!
  44. pts-m
    pts-m 20 January 2016 13: 35 New
    0
    yeah. for a short while an old woman named geyropa fought in the arms of Schwarzen friends. the eternal memory of the old slave of the peoples of the planet.
  45. dison
    dison 20 January 2016 14: 18 New
    0
    Quote: Temples
    Rather, Tusk will not.
    Otherwise, everything will be as before.
    And do not shag grandmother.
    If they press, they will cut out these migrants and no one will even squeak.
    This is not the first time that tolerant Europe has done such things.
    Or is it in what other part of the world fascism and Nazism were born ???


    And who will cut them? Tolerasts or what?) In any case, a forceful decision within Europe will now cost them dearly.
  46. Adagka
    Adagka 20 January 2016 14: 21 New
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    The ogas have already heard about the collapse of the dollar and the collapse of Europe, only before that, effective mediators led by the best spy and chess player will bring Russia to another default, because except how to sit on the pipe, download and steal, they don’t know anything anymore soon wait a hundred dollars for eating up the last reserves and default
  47. jetfors_84
    jetfors_84 20 January 2016 14: 33 New
    +1
    Don’t worry, don’t fall apart. They also wrote when the elections in Greece took place. They also buried the EU. It is really better to solve problems at home, and wait for the neighbors to collapse.
  48. sergeant zabvo
    sergeant zabvo 20 January 2016 14: 51 New
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    which is to be expected ... thank Obama! Europe so loves to look in America’s mouth that it completely turned off its brains!
  49. Conscience
    Conscience 20 January 2016 15: 00 New
    +1
    My opinion is that soon the house will overwhelm Europe and again Russia will save them, and America will warm its hands on this.
    the big mistake was letting so many people into their “house" - I understand letting in competent and decently well-mannered people, but Europe wants nerves for itself ....
    we'll see...
    1. Tatar 174
      Tatar 174 20 January 2016 16: 37 New
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      Quote: Conscience
      and America on this handle will warm

      As they say today, it will sit down. You look at the portrait of Tusk, it looks like he has diarrhea or a weekly constipation ... Or something worse ... laughing
  50. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 20 January 2016 16: 03 New
    +1
    All is well beautiful marquise .. what
    “The ruble exchange rate is close to fundamental levels, there is no risk to financial stability. This statement was made by the head of the Russian Central Bank Elvira Nabiullina. The original of the RT news in Russian:
    https://russian.rt.com/article/143128
    1. Cap.Morgan
      Cap.Morgan 21 January 2016 00: 00 New
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      The fundamental level is 100 rubles per dollar.))))
      But Na-ibuliny does not count money.