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Pacific Fleet to get six new submarines

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The other day, new plans were announced to upgrade the submarine forces of the naval fleet. According to the latest data, after the current construction of new submarines for the Black Sea Fleet is completed, a similar project starts, as a result of which the Pacific Fleet will receive new submarines. In addition, some information was published that directly or indirectly related to this project.


About plans for the construction of new submarines on January 16 on the air of the Russian Service radio station News"Said the head of the Navy's shipbuilding department captain 1st rank Vladimir Tryapichnikov. The officer said that it is planned to continue the development of the fleet, including through the construction of new submarines. According to current plans, in the foreseeable future, six diesel-electric submarines of Project 636 Varshavyanka should be built. New submarines will be transferred to the Pacific Fleet. The timing of the construction of the boats has not yet been specified, but it is alleged that they will be transferred to the Navy in the near future.

According to V. Tryapichnikov, before the start of construction, the initial project will undergo some modifications related to the operation of equipment in the Pacific Ocean. Details of such improvements, however, have not yet been disclosed.



The head of the naval shipbuilding department told only about plans to build new submarines, but did not touch on the reasons for their appearance. A little later, detailed information on this subject was published in the Lenta.ru edition. With reference to an unnamed source in the Ministry of Defense, it is reported that the goal of building six new Varshavyanok is to overcome the backlog of the submarine forces of Russia from the Japanese, formed after the collapse of the Soviet Union.

According to an unnamed source, the Pacific Fleet currently requires about 10-12 diesel-electric submarines. Such a number of diesel-electric submarines in combination with the existing nuclear submarines will ensure superiority over the Japanese fleet, as well as establish parity with the US naval forces. Recall that at the moment there are eight 877 “Halibus” project in the Pacific Fleet, most of which were built several decades ago and may be written off in the foreseeable future. Thus, to preserve or enhance the combat capabilities of the fleet, construction of new submarines is required.

The project of building a series of six Varshavyanka submarines for the Pacific Fleet can be considered a direct continuation of the previous similar order. In 2010 and 2011, the Ministry of Defense ordered six XDUMX project diesel-electric submarines, which were intended for the Black Sea Fleet. To date, four boats of this series are built, tested and transferred to the fleet. From September 636.3 to November 2014, the fleet included the Novorossiisk B-2015, Rostov-on-Don B-261, Rostov-on-Don, B-237 Stary Oskol and Krasnodar B-262 boats. Two other submarines of the series, the B-265 "Veliky Novgorod" and the B-268 "Kolpino", should be handed over at the end of the current year.

It should also be noted that the submarine "Rostov-on-Don" not only began service as part of the navy, but also managed to take part in hostilities. In early December, this submarine, being in the waters of the Mediterranean Sea, launched a rocket attack on the positions of terrorists in Syria. For the destruction of these targets, the Caliber missile system was used. Similar systems are armed with other boats of the Varshavyanka project.

According to the latest plans of the military department, in the foreseeable future diesel-electric submarines of the 636.3 project must replenish the composition of the Pacific Fleet, and, as in the case of the Black Sea, we will be talking about the construction of six submarines. The exact timing of their bookmarks and the company, which will conduct construction, has not yet been clarified. It can be assumed that the construction of the new Varshavyanok will be carried out at the Admiralty Shipyards plant in St. Petersburg, which was built by most of the diesel-electric submarines of the 636 project. Thus, the construction of a new series can start after the launch of the sixth boat for the Black Sea Fleet.

Of great interest are the words of an unnamed source "Tapes.ru". According to him, the goal of building new diesel-electric submarines is the need to reduce the backlog from the fleets of other countries of the Far East. Thus, the emergence of new domestic submarines should increase the combat capability of the Pacific Fleet and thereby eliminate the backlog from Japan, as well as ensure parity with the United States.

It must be admitted that the available information about the submarines of the 636.3 project and their armament may indicate their high potential. New submarines are one of the quietest in their class, and also carry cruise missiles with a long range, demonstrated during last year's launches. Thus, the new “Varshavyanka” can not only adjust the balance of power in the northern part of the Pacific Ocean, but also significantly change the military-political situation in the region. The main factor in this is the high range and accuracy of the missiles.

According to reports, the submarines "Veliky Novgorod" and "Kolpino" (the latter in the series for the Black Sea Fleet) should be launched in the first half of the year 2016. After that, the Admiralty Shipyards will be able to begin preparations for the construction of new submarines. Thus, the heading of the head "Varshavyanka" for the Pacific Fleet can take place before the end of this year, and the construction of the entire series will take about 5-7 years. As a result, by the end of this decade, the Pacific Fleet will receive several new submarines.


On the materials of the sites:
http://rusnovosti.ru/
http://lenta.ru/
http://ridus.ru/
http://bmpd.livejournal.com/
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  1. Magic archer
    Magic archer 20 January 2016 05: 57
    +1
    10-12 boats is a great prospect! An unnecessary headache for our "friends". And then recently there is a lot of information about new boats and ships in the fleets of Japan, South Korea and China.
    1. Civil
      Civil 20 January 2016 17: 39
      0
      6 so 6 ... not bad, very not bad
  2. Yarik
    Yarik 20 January 2016 06: 16
    22 th
    ???? 10 boats Ridiculously. Well, if only the last hair of pensioners, this time from experience, to tear. winkBe realistic. The destiny of all Dimovs there is heaven. And we have to walk on the earth.
    1. cap
      cap 20 January 2016 07: 54
      12 th
      Quote: Yarik
      ???? 10 boats Ridiculously. Well, if only the last hair of pensioners, this time from experience, to tear. winkBe realistic. The destiny of all Dimovs there is heaven. And we have to walk on the earth.


      10 boats are good. The defense industry is still pulling the industry.
      We feed ourselves on the money from the lease. We will control. What is easier.
      "Land lease to China: 115 ha for 000 years
      16 June 2015, 20:58
      Published: 16.06.2015 Source: tass.ru 
      The State Duma supported the project on leasing agricultural land to Chinese companies
      The head of the State Duma Committee on Agricultural Issues emphasized that the processing
      leased land needs serious state control "
      "Today, we have about 40% of agricultural land in general is not used or cultivated. And the fact that today such a large amount of land in regions where this land is not cultivated is leased by another state, I think there is nothing terrible about that. ", - said Pankov. According to him, this is beneficial for Russia and can provide a positive example for the use of agricultural land that has not been cultivated for many years. "
      "Earlier it was reported that the government of the Trans-Baikal Territory signed a letter of intent with the Chinese company Huae Xingban, which implies its participation in the development of the region's agro-industrial complex. The investor intends to invest about 24 billion rubles in the development of agriculture in the region. The project provides for the lease of 115 thousand rubles. ha (corresponds to 1 km150) of fallow lands and pastures in the Nerchinsko-Zavodskoy, Uletovsky, Sretensky, Shilkinsky districts and on the territory of the Aginsky Buryat District for a period of up to 2 years. and municipalities "
      Something like that hi
  3. Samy
    Samy 20 January 2016 06: 44
    +4
    10-12 boats, besides without anaerobic power plants, this is a drop in the bucket against the fleets of South Korea, Japan and part of the US fleet, and possibly Australia, which will act against us if something happens. But at least something ...
    1. Ami du peuple
      Ami du peuple 20 January 2016 08: 07
      10
      Quote: Samy
      it’s a drop in the ocean against the fleets of South Korea, Japan, and part of the US fleet, and possibly Australia, which will act against us if something happens.

      With this "if anything", nuclear weapons will definitely be used. And not so much by the connections of the ships, but by the places of their basing. Well, of course, in the industrial and political centers of the enemy. Here, the parity of naval forces will not play a role - air defense and missile defense rule.
      1. gergi
        gergi 24 January 2016 00: 07
        +1
        There will be no sea battles with boarding. 10 submarines with cruise missiles on board, what kind of warheads are there? I don’t know, the Japanese don’t know, the Koreans with the Amers don’t know either. What if nuclear? And that's it, no one is going anywhere. What’s called, arrived.
    2. donavi49
      donavi49 20 January 2016 10: 23
      +1
      VNEU will not be soon - Kalina and it is not a fact that the first. That is strongly 2020 +.

      Japan has 7 Soryu - boats with VNEU (Stirling) and another 5 are being built, also 10 Oyashira, such as 636.
      In Korea, 6 boats with VNEU (hydrogen reactor) and another 3 are being built, plus 9 boats of the 636 type (Type 209 in the maximum stuffing).
      The USA does not have diesel submarines as a class. They only have ICAPL.
      Australia has 6 ancient Oberons, which are half a generation behind 636.
      1. spravochnik
        spravochnik 20 January 2016 11: 10
        +1
        Hello Uncle New Year. Australia has long replaced the ancient Oberons with 6 Collins.
    3. Idiot
      Idiot 20 January 2016 17: 48
      +4
      To win, the boat must be quieter than the enemy, hear farther than the enemy and have more effective weapons and a more professional crew on board than the enemy. The absence of an anaerobic propulsion system is completely not critical. Let's pray for an anaerobic installation. It’s only heard: VNEU, VNEU ..., all went crazy on this VNEU. Before our Pacific Fleet, no one sets the task of patrolling the Great Barrier Reef or Fiji. Moreover, as such, we do not have an ocean fleet in the region.
      1. Countermeasure
        Countermeasure 21 January 2016 10: 35
        +1
        I fully support! VNEU affects the duration of autonomous navigation, which is not so critical for boats in the coastal zone.
      2. Countermeasure
        Countermeasure 21 January 2016 10: 35
        0
        I fully support! VNEU affects the duration of autonomous navigation, which is not so critical for boats in the coastal zone.
    4. Idiot
      Idiot 20 January 2016 17: 48
      0
      To win, the boat must be quieter than the enemy, hear farther than the enemy and have more effective weapons and a more professional crew on board than the enemy. The absence of an anaerobic propulsion system is completely not critical. Let's pray for an anaerobic installation. It’s only heard: VNEU, VNEU ..., all went crazy on this VNEU. Before our Pacific Fleet, no one sets the task of patrolling the Great Barrier Reef or Fiji. Moreover, as such, we do not have an ocean fleet in the region.
    5. kig
      kig 1 February 2016 10: 11
      0
      It all depends on the doctrine, i.e. for what they are originally supposed to be used. If for the Japanese and other coastal seas, then just right. And VNEU we are only being developed, then there will be a long period of implementation / refinement ... in general, the best is sometimes the enemy is just good.
  4. qwert
    qwert 20 January 2016 07: 08
    +5
    Six small diesel boats for the Pacific ... Not the best option. They would have a place in the Baltic and the Black Sea. And in the ocean, oceanic submarines and naturally atomic ones are needed. And Varshavyanka for the coastal zone.
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 20 January 2016 10: 28
      +3
      And in a hypothetical conflict at the ridge, you don’t drag the atomic boat while portraying the bottom, but rather run up against a rock and emerge with a white flag. Or you’ll have to act in your own PLO zone in order not to catch a gift from Soryu / Orion, which means that such actions will be a priori less effective (more flying time, gives you more chances to rebuild, leave, work out combat on all missile defense circuits, etc.). But DEPL will be easy, it is more invisible to any atomic and throws torpedoes / missiles from a minimum range, which means with a minimum flying time and a minimum for a response.
    2. g1v2
      g1v2 20 January 2016 21: 03
      +4
      The main purpose of classic deaths is still the defense of their sea zone. They will act in conjunction with other defense ships - patrol vessels 20380, MPK, missile boats and MRK. But napl with anaerobic installation will already be used in the far sea zone, together with apl.
      We have 7 drops on the Pacific Fleet, 6 more will be built - there will be 13. For defense, a relatively small area from Chukotka to Vladivostok, as well as the Sea of ​​Okhotsk, Sakhalin and the Kuril Islands may well be enough, of course, with reliance on the coast - radar, air defense, aviation and brk. Well, in any case, having 6 new deaths is in every way better than not having them. wink
    3. Dart2027
      Dart2027 21 January 2016 23: 12
      0
      Quote: qwert
      And Varshavyanka for the coastal zone.

      And they are being built for the coastal zone.
  5. Evgeny Petrovich
    Evgeny Petrovich 20 January 2016 07: 38
    +4
    We have some unreliable all these verbs: We will receive, make, upgrade, and so on. News should be received, done.
  6. Evgeniy667b
    Evgeniy667b 20 January 2016 08: 06
    +1
    Plans, Plans, when will it come to them? Otherwise, some buyers will loom and push the TOF "Varshavyanka" into the background. This is like two fingers ... a norm and a common occurrence. And then the not very smart participants in the VO will choke with enthusiasm for "successful and very necessary contracts", money for the budget ????? - whether and so on, so on ...
    When money from oil was more than enough, something no one dared to equip their army ...
    1. saturn.mmm
      saturn.mmm 20 January 2016 10: 15
      -1
      Quote: Evgeniy667b
      Plans, Plans, when will it come to them? Otherwise, some buyers will loom and push the TOF "Varshavyanka" into the background.

      In this case, it is necessary to expand production, absurdly refuse the plant profitable contracts.
      1. Stirbjorn
        Stirbjorn 20 January 2016 11: 57
        +3
        Vietnamese buyers did not harm the Black Sea "Varshavyanka" in any way. Subs got everything and on time hi just work
        1. Evgeniy667b
          Evgeniy667b 21 January 2016 06: 16
          0
          So argue all those who have no idea about the state of production, Ordinary unfounded crap. You are like experimental rabbits mesmerized by a boa constrictor being led by the rustling of green notes. And it doesn’t matter where they go afterwards. And they will go to the cut, and there’s no need to go to the fortuneteller. I gave most of my life to underwater shipbuilding for the Navy and I am responsible for my words. The problems are the same everywhere, both in Sevmash and in the Admiralty shipyards, lack of personnel and financial fraud.
          And not everything has been built in the Black Sea Fleet, since the assembly sites were occupied by Vietnamese orders. And "Uncle Vasya" will not burst.
          1. Dart2027
            Dart2027 21 January 2016 23: 15
            0
            Quote: Evgeniy667b
            since assembly sites were occupied by Vietnamese orders

            On which the construction technology was worked out.
            Quote: Evgeniy667b
            lack of staff and financial fraud.

            Alas, we do not live in a perfect world.
  7. Kudrevkn
    Kudrevkn 20 January 2016 08: 21
    0
    Tryapichnikov! We did not try to transfer part of the order with documentation to Komsomolsk on the Amur. Instead of "Amur -1650" and "Amur-1950" build 636.6 with VNEU, and in parallel both the walls and the base for the diesel-electric submarine brigade. Or are you planning to place them in Ulysses? KTOF large theater, and the diesel-electric submarine's power reserve is small? It is necessary not only to decide on the quantity (6 units?). but against whom are we fighting - the Americans, the Japs or the Chinese? And what tasks will this brigade solve operatively - defensive or offensive (attacking)? There are many questions. the answer is still one - the above publication, more like a "newspaper duck" or an April Fool's Day "deza"! It is a pity that the admirals Makarovs and Gorshkovs were transferred to Russia, only the ranks of the Dygalo and the Tryapichnikovs were left?
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 20 January 2016 10: 31
      +4
      VNEU will be only on Kalina, in 636 there is no place, and VNEU itself in the processed sample, even for trial operation, is not there. Moreover, it is far from the fact that the first Kalina will receive VNEU, the topic is strongly 2020 +.

      There is no money to transfer boats to another plant, and it makes no sense. Admiralty has a boot pool and it is finite. No new customers are expected now (residual export capacity for 636 - 8-14 boats). The Admiralteika has recruited people from all over the CIS, trained them, updated its machinery and gives the right quality and time.

      Komsomolsk will now turn an 636 boat into a Perfect Corvette, that is, we have been building 10 years, money has gone like 3 Baltic corvettes, but there is no result yet. Raise the factory and put things in order there, drive people from all over the CIS, giving them apartments and conditions, buy a machine tool, all this must be done exclusively for orders - and now there aren’t much of them. Yes, and money, too.
      1. Stirbjorn
        Stirbjorn 20 January 2016 12: 01
        +2
        I agree, Admiralty shipyards, Zelenodolsk do not break the deadlines, unlike the rest. If you take the order from them, the deadlines will float away, as with the unfortunate "Perfect". And submarines can be delivered by dock-ships in order to save resources. As the same Vietnamese did.
        1. Amurets
          Amurets 20 January 2016 13: 39
          +1
          Quote: donavi49
          Komsomolsk will now turn 636 a boat into a Perfect Corvette, that is, we have been building it for 10 years

          In the 70s, the NEA built 667 projects in 9-12 months. In the same way, the 971th. What happened to the plant?
          Quote: donavi49
          VNEU will be only on Kalina,

          What kind of VNEU are you talking about? There are 4 types of them. Diesel-oxygen, Walter’s turbine, Stirling’s engine or electrochemical generator? Diesel-oxygen has already been used in our fleet: the project A615 babies. Walter’s turbine was tested on the C-99 of project 617 and only the atomic boom did not give a start to this project. The Stirling engine was worked out in LNG mode, I don’t remember the name of the vessel, in the form of a power plant with a power turbine.
          http://dic.academic.ru/dic.nsf/bse/130700/%D0%A1%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B1%D0%BE%D0%B4%D

          0%BD%D0%BE%D0%BF%D0%BE%D1%80%D1%88%D0%BD%D0%B5%D0%B2%D0%BE%D0%B9.
          As well as a 4-volume engine of the internal combustion engine edited by Professor Orlin, 1970-1973 edition.
  8. Belousov
    Belousov 20 January 2016 08: 32
    0
    DEPLs are good in the Russian Sea and the Arctic Ocean, and the Pacific Fleet needs atomic ones - there are completely different open spaces, a different range is needed, and even anaerobic power plants are very necessary, but we don’t.
  9. Yarik
    Yarik 20 January 2016 08: 56
    -1
    10 boats that you can hear directly from NewWork? Hmm .... Money on the water.
  10. VohaAhov
    VohaAhov 20 January 2016 09: 19
    +6
    Currently, the Pacific Fleet needs about 10-12 diesel-electric submarines. Such a number of diesel-electric submarines in combination with existing nuclear submarines will ensure superiority over the Japanese fleet
    What kind of superiority over the Japanese fleet are we talking about? Rave!!! The Japanese have 18 modern diesel-electric submarines, incl. with anaerobic installations. The oldest boat was built in 1999. Even in South Korea there are 15 diesel-electric submarines, including 6 Project 214 boats with an anaerobic installation. Even a simple comparison suggests that 10-12 of our boats will not give superiority over the Korean, and even more so the Japanese.
  11. Zigmars
    Zigmars 20 January 2016 09: 48
    +1
    Six new submarines?
    Given the ruble exchange rate, the prospects for oil and gas prices and other chronic problems of our economy, I suspect that even these modest plans are unlikely to be implemented in the new conditions.
    Recently, the phrase "by 2020", so often pronounced at the top, is already acquiring a sacred meaning. To be honest, it seems to me that nichrome will not be completed by "2020". At best, they will build 3 units and hand them over to the Pacific Fleet, and find an excuse to cancel the rest.
    The actions of the government are more and more reminiscent of an imitation of violent activity, and the economic structure, having turned into a complete freak in the early 1990s, has not changed practically since that time. It is a pity that not everyone realizes the simple truth: a strong economy is always at the heart of any military power. That's it, gentlemen.
    It's time to do something.
  12. air wolf
    air wolf 20 January 2016 11: 02
    0
    All the same, you need to install a water cannon at all, and it’s quieter and quieter and better ...
    And then supplement with an air-independent installation, when they finish on the Lada and there will be good competition for nuclear powered ships! soldier
    1. Tu-214R
      Tu-214R 20 January 2016 11: 38
      0
      Lada has already been closed.
  13. Vladimir Postnikov
    Vladimir Postnikov 20 January 2016 13: 36
    +1
    On this topic, I recommend my story of creating underwater drones in Russia
    1999 to 2015
    This is a documentary story. There is also about "modern" diesel submarines, and about fuel cells.
    http://vladimir37.livejournal.com/#asset-vladimir37-41029
    Posted on my blog two days before the famous "Leak". This is true, by the way.
  14. Tektor
    Tektor 20 January 2016 15: 00
    +1
    A normal solution in light of the emergence of batteries of a new quality.
  15. Yarik
    Yarik 20 January 2016 15: 35
    -9
    Putin is driving. We’ll drive into the ass.
  16. mvg
    mvg 20 January 2016 17: 41
    +1
    As usual. Wishlist is much more than opportunities. The naval component of the Armed Forces is the most expensive ... But we just want 10-12 boats for each fleet, and that the quality is no worse than the 212-214 project or Soryu .. Soon Australia, a great maritime power, will have diesel-electric submarines , according to TTX better than in Russia. You don’t have to fool yourself that Lada, Kalina ... (I recall Lada Kalina from AvtoVAZ, so trembling :-)) will be better than German, Swedish or Japanese boats ..
    Even the great and mighty Israel is armed with diesel-electric submarines, much more interesting than the "Varshavyanka" and "Halibut".
    And, perhaps, it really does not make sense to build monsters at 0.6 - 2 lard greens apiece Dolphin - Soryu), and rivet 636.3 at 200-300 thousand, but in quantity, so that enough for all fleets ..
    But we’ll load all the factories, and at least somehow we will survive this crunchy crisis .. And after 5-8 years we will sell this trash to Latin America ..
  17. Sultan Babai
    Sultan Babai 20 January 2016 18: 18
    +1
    The Pacific Ocean needs boats right now. No one will give them right now, but the fastest way is to get a 636.6 DPS with Caliber. Perhaps that is why the Ministry of Defense decided to do so. They will still build and test Kalina with VNEU ... A titmouse in a hand is better than a crane in the sky ... and given the age of the ships at KTOF, these boats will please sailors and frustrate the Japanese prime minister and his clique.
  18. jonht
    jonht 21 January 2016 07: 38
    +1
    Well, maybe the boats are not new projects, and for this class there is nothing fundamentally new (VNEU) they have already been tested about and wrote to people before me, the main thing will be new equipment, equipment and weapons. If in the early 60-70s there was a lag in sonar systems, then 80-90 was already parity, now they are introducing something new. But telemetric optical detection systems (I don’t know the principle of operation and those who used it do not say much either) with which the boats were equipped with the Americans only at the end of 90 and after ours leaked the info on them. I think that there is still something to surprise the whole world, but they won’t tell us about it.
  19. su navy
    su navy 21 January 2016 09: 27
    0
    "... the construction of the entire series will take about 5-7 years." Why so long. In Soviet times, Sevmash built strategists much faster.
  20. Garris199
    Garris199 24 January 2016 04: 42
    0
    It is somehow strange for 6 boats on the sea and ocean fleets. On the Black Sea Fleet and 4x is enough, but on the Pacific Fleet 6 is not enough. It is better to direct the B-268 and B-271 to the Pacific Fleet.
  21. fomin
    fomin 26 January 2016 11: 56
    +1
    "... will allow to ensure superiority over the Japanese fleet, as well as establish parity with the US naval forces" how beautiful it sounds, unfortunately, neither the author of the article nor other users who left comments paid attention to an important point, submarine pr.636.3 at this point in time are morally obsolete and in terms of their performance characteristics they are no longer able to compete with the newest Japanese submarines of the Shuryu type, the opposition of our Varshavyanka to the American AUG also looks rather dubious. The production of submarines pr. 636.3 is not conducted from a good life, but from the fact that our industry has lagged behind other countries and is not yet able to produce submarines of a new type.