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Weapons in the USA

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Rifle weapons in the USA it is much more than inhabitants. The right to bear arms is guaranteed by the second amendment of the Constitution. Every year, 30 000 Americans die from firearms.


Today we will visit the plant of the famous company Barnes for the production of bullets, look at the production and talk about weapons in the United States.

Weapons in the USA


1. Barnes' bullet production company began as a hobby of a person with one idea - to do better than it is now, introducing new ideas through experiments and experiments. This desire has borne fruit, today the company is one of the main players in the market of bullets and cartridges, whose technologies and innovations have become the property of pulletization and a kind of standard from which they make copies. (Photo by George Frey | Reuters):



2. It all started in 1932, when Fred Barnes began selling bullets made in his basement workshop located in Bayfield, Colorado. After experimenting with different layouts and tools, he installed a shell (shell) of 99% copper on a bullet with a soft lead core.
And here is the big copper coil at a plant in Utah, 6 January 2015. (Photo by George Frey | Reuters):



3. According to the US Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms Control (Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms Bureau), approximately 60 is in the hands of 65 million Americans (representing 45% of American households) and has more than 200 million firearms. (Photo by George Frey | Reuters):



4. Each year, the number of weapons in private hands increases by 4.5 million trunks. Thus, Americans have the world's largest private arsenal. (Photo by George Frey | Reuters):



5. The USA is the leader among the developed countries of the world in terms of violent crimes with the use of firearms. Every third inhabitant of America had a man among his acquaintances who, for one reason or another, was shot dead. (Photo by George Frey | Reuters):



6. Moreover, one out of five children living in the United States had ever witnessed a gunfight at least once in their life. In the United States, children die from gunshot wounds eleven times more often than in other developed countries; among them are many preschoolers. (Photo by George Frey | Reuters):



7. Under federal rules in force, firearms cannot be sold to people with mental problems, previously convicted of crimes, drug addicts, and non-US citizens. So, having come to this country on a tour, you are unlikely to manage to get hold of a “trunk” in a store. (Photo by George Frey | Reuters):



8. In most states, a shortbridge can be purchased upon reaching the 21 age. Pistols can usually be purchased only by people older than 21 of the year, guns - upon reaching 18-years. (Photo by George Frey | Reuters):



9. (Photo by George Frey | Reuters):



10. When buying a weapon in a store, the buyer fills out a special form where his home address, place of work, etc., is entered, signs a number of documents, and in some states leaves a thumbprint of his right hand. The buyer must also present his documents to the seller; in some states, it is necessary to complete a special training course before buying weapons. (Photo by George Frey | Reuters):



11. From 1986, it is prohibited to sell fully automatic weapons in the United States (however, assault rifles, machine guns, etc., issued before 1986, may remain in the possession of people and be sold by them privately). In 1994, one more restriction was introduced - the shops of high-speed rifles should not hold more than 10-rounds. (Photo by George Frey | Reuters):



12. In 46 states, there are no restrictions on the purchase of a number of barrels. Only in four states there is a rule according to which a buyer can purchase one rifle (pistol, rifle, etc.) per month. In 43 states, acquiring a weapon does not require licenses or registration. (Photo by George Frey | Reuters):



13. In the 44 states, the secondary market for weapons is in no way regulated, that is, the gun owner can freely sell it to anyone who wants it. (Photo by George Frey | Reuters):



14. 38 US states prohibit weapons from entering the school grounds. 16 also imposed a similar ban on university campuses (campuses). Some states leave these rules at the discretion of universities. (Photo by George Frey | Reuters):



15. (Photo by George Frey | Reuters):



16. Until recently, it was sometimes easier to buy weapons in the US than a can of beer. And here Obama ordered to check all buyers of weapons, including those who buy the “barrels” on the Internet and at exhibitions. The president has repeatedly tried to impose some restrictions on the carrying of weapons, but in America the arms lobby is too strong; Congress has blocked these initiatives. (Photo by George Frey | Reuters):



17. Two-thirds of Americans support the measures proposed by US President Barack Obama to curb arms trafficking, according to the results of a CNN public opinion poll released Thursday. (Photo by George Frey | Reuters):



18. Six of the 10 participants in the current survey, including 75% of gun owners, believe that the proposed measures will not help reduce the number of victims of violence with weapons. The statistical error of the survey is plus or minus 3%. (Photo by George Frey | Reuters):



19. And we looked at photos from the famous Barnes bullet factory, Utah, 6, January 2016. (Photo by George Frey | Reuters):

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  1. martin-159
    martin-159 20 January 2016 06: 00 New
    24
    Personally, I like their rules.
    1. Mera joota
      Mera joota 20 January 2016 07: 08 New
      13
      Quote: martin-159
      Personally, I like their rules.

      Join.
      1. otto meer
        otto meer 20 January 2016 09: 56 New
        32
        Quote: martin-159
        Personally, I like their rules.

        Quote: Mera Joota
        Join.

        I also join.
        In general, what kind of nonsense, who could put cons for these statements? From time immemorial among Russians (not among Russians - different concepts) the presence of weapons was a sign of a free man. Power forbids people to have weapons, who are we then for power? Didn’t you think, gentlemen minusculeers?
        1. lysyj bob
          lysyj bob 20 January 2016 10: 29 New
          13
          I also join in. But the control over the turnover should be tighter. A person, of course, should have the right to weapons, and not only hunting, but rights also imply obligations to comply with storage and use rules.

          “In 44 states, the secondary market for weapons is not regulated in any way, that is, the owner of a pistol can freely sell it to anyone who wants it.” And this is not at all subject to comprehension. There should be, at least, elementary registration with the Department of Internal Affairs.

          "The authorities forbid people to have weapons, who are we for the authorities then? Have you ever wondered, gentlemen minusilists?" I absolutely agree ... Those who prohibit, at the same time, have weapons themselves, this is a fact.
          1. would
            would 20 January 2016 11: 01 New
            11
            And this is not subject to comprehension at all.


            Not for you. But they believe that most residents of the state are not potential killers, rapists and criminals in general, but the right people who can be responsible for their actions and, as a result, one neighbor can give a gun to another for his birthday. Without any formalities, just take and give in a beautiful box. Well, he's a normal person, right? I'll tell you even more. In some states, data on the purchase by a state resident of most trunks ... do not go to more than one state structure. That is, a man came, bought a good trunk, only the dealer and the dealer who gives them the data to government agencies only on demand have this information. The state by the end does not know that some Joe has 30 weapons at home. And nothing, not a surge of crime with legal weapons or any other problems. Even the cartridge cases canceled for joy.
            1. lysyj bob
              lysyj bob 20 January 2016 11: 12 New
              +2
              "One neighbor can give another a gun for his birthday. Without any formalities, just take it and give it in a beautiful box. Well, he's a normal person, isn't he?"
              And a neighbor has a relative - a felon, and also wants a gun, but a neighbor cannot refuse him - Well, he is a normal person, right? And this gun, all the same, will have to be registered, but already as material evidence.
              Therefore, I am not against the secondary market, but CONTROL SHOULD BE.
              1. would
                would 20 January 2016 11: 23 New
                +9
                And the neighbor’s relative is a criminal,


                And the giver knows about it (it is hardly possible to hide the brother of the criminal) and will not give it as a result. Oh yes, the trunk is registered to the owner, and not to the relative, and even in the Russian Federation a person may have at least 10 outgoing relatives, but if he himself is clean and they do not officially live with him in the same apartment, then he can acquire the trunk. If they live, then they also cannot refuse legally. In such states, the SSA is generally extremely characteristic of the fact that a lot of trust: So in the state of Georgia you can buy a trunk in a store, go out, legally sell the first Negro you meet without asking him for any documents. State only Recommends ask for a state ID, that is, proof of state residency. And characteristically, no one knows people who would do just that, everyone asks for an ID. The dealer must keep a piece of paper stating that person x bought the trunk x with serial number x, etc. 3 years and after that he can legally throw it away. Nobody knows a single dealer who would do this and everyone keeps such documents permanently.

                It’s just that in such states they believe that their people live with brains, right heart and soul, law-abiding, right people. And such a judgment is confirmed by a case that proves that people living there do the right thing not under the pressure of the law, but out of their own conscience .. In Russia, everyone believes that at any opportunity, a citizen is a criminal who will use something for evil. That is, for example, I, a normal, law-abiding citizen, will buy a barrel and present it to my neighbor wonderfully knowing that he has a criminal brother. Rave? Rave! It gets crazy when the FSKN refuses to allow fentanyl pumps. Why? Because the dying cancer patient, whose indescribable pains are no longer suppressed by morphine, will take and fentanyl from the pump and sell it to some sort of narik, and then, of his own free will, he will go crazy with pain. They talk about it with honest eyes and a serious face without answering what to do with cancer.
                1. lysyj bob
                  lysyj bob 20 January 2016 12: 13 New
                  0
                  So in the state of Georgia you can buy a barrel in a store, go out, legally sell the first Negro you meet without asking him for any documents.



                  And do you consider this a manifestation of freedom? The freedom of one person ends where the freedom of another begins. And this other, by law and not only, is free in the right to live, and he does not want the "first Negro he meets" with a pistol to take away this right from him. For this, control is needed. .The right to give is NORMAL RIGHT, but notify the BODIES. And the owners of the barrels should be held accountable for their misconduct not only before God's judgment. Otherwise, we will smoothly move from freedom to impunity.

                  PS Imagine the situation: you bought a barrel, at the time of registration you gave a fingerprint, presented the barrel to a neighbor, and then at the place of the murder they find a gun with your fingerprint. Who's guilty?..
                  1. would
                    would 20 January 2016 12: 24 New
                    +5
                    he is free in the right to live, and he does not want the "first black man he meets" with a pistol to take away this right from him.


                    Without any doubt. Only now a black man will go to the black market and buy an illegal barrel there, which in the USA is much cheaper than a legal one, and will try to do what you have described. And so yes, this is quite a freedom when there are no unnecessary and unnecessary procedures. At the same time, you have a completely normal, law-abiding person who has paid several hundred dollars for a barrel and will sell it to the first black man he meets simply because he can. After all, you and others like you are immediately by definition a criminal, and with a minimal formal opportunity to commit a crime, he will commit it. What prevents you from selling trunks to the first Negroes you meet, at a loss in the presence of a prohibiting law? Nothing but formality. But "for some reason" normal people don't do that.

                    You bought a barrel, upon registration you passed a fingerprint, presented the barrel to a neighbor, and then at the place of the murder they find a gun with your fingerprint. Who's guilty?..


                    As always, a typical police morale when everyone around is criminals, killers and just scum. That is, from my neighbor whom I have already known for a year, which a normal guy working in a sweat will fall into the hands of a killer or what’s steeper than he will kill. Well: We must start with the fact that in the described conditions of the absence of the cartridge case, the serial number should remain on it. In such circumstances, an American can simply describe to the investigators the circumstances of the gift and at this point at this stage it will all end. Further, the investigation will check the strings: The motives for the murder, probable enemies, etc. etc. After they find the real killer. But as practice shows in such states where undocumented sales (volumes incidentally incidentally) are a phenomenon described above, it’s just for you and your kind that all rare bastards and latent criminals, but in reality law-abiding citizens are not at all eager to sell trunks do not understand who.
                    1. lysyj bob
                      lysyj bob 20 January 2016 13: 03 New
                      -1
                      Well, yes, according to your logic, everyone is abiding by the law. Unfortunately, this is not so.
                      1. Nosgoth
                        Nosgoth 20 January 2016 15: 48 New
                        -1
                        Judging by your words, you are still that rare villain and criminal. After all, everyone should consider "all criminals, I alone am prYnts", and therefore, in their eyes, you are a criminal. So you agree with this.
                      2. lysyj bob
                        lysyj bob 20 January 2016 16: 17 New
                        0
                        And you read all the posts and argue that I am a villain and a criminal.
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                2. max702
                  max702 20 January 2016 13: 09 New
                  +1
                  Quote: lysyj bob
                  Who's guilty?..

                  YOU....
                3. Ajjh
                  Ajjh 20 January 2016 15: 37 New
                  +3
                  PS Imagine the situation: you bought a barrel, at the time of registration you gave a fingerprint, presented the barrel to a neighbor, and then at the place of the murder they find a gun with your fingerprint. Who's guilty?..

                  What kind of kindergarten level? there is a court and there they decide what and how much. One finger means it’s going to hang on you.
                  1. Scraptor
                    Scraptor 20 January 2016 16: 06 New
                    +2
                    Does not mean. This is only in scary Hollywood films or for real in Russia.
  2. max702
    max702 20 January 2016 12: 41 New
    +4
    Quote: martin-159
    Personally, I like their rules.

    The US authorities would gladly cancel the 2nd amendment, and deprive the population of weapons .. But everything went too far ... True, if you look carefully and even just read this article (and pay attention to its tone and presentation of the material), we see that steps to it cancellation and deprivation of the population’s weapons are undertaken, everything is used here, and the media, and the change of laws and much more .. Man armed = Man free And in the light of the plans of the world tycoons to organize a "chip herd" weapons in the hands of the population are unacceptable .. So we will continue to hear about shootings in schools, psychos in cinemas, "interesting" statistics, and so on .. True, they always keep silent about how many crimes there were prevented by weapons .. it is like a sickle to the authorities in one place ..
    rs: By the way, as in the conversation between the American government representatives and ours, their regrets flashed about the absence of the U.S. CERTIFICATE institute .. They enviously said that this tool would be very useful for them ..
    1. SlavaP
      SlavaP 20 January 2016 19: 36 New
      +7
      In Israel, over the past couple of months of a new outbreak of Palestinian terror, more than three hundred terrorists have been destroyed (shot). And often just random passers-by with a trunk. Think about how many innocent lives are saved. In Israel, the right to bear arms must be earned; medical and criminal control reliably sweeps away all idiots. Moreover, every year you need to shoot a certain number of times in the shooting range, otherwise, by-bye weapons. And there are practically no incidents of weapons in Israel, as well as serious street crime.
  3. vitalius
    vitalius 1 February 2016 23: 01 New
    0
    Quote: martin-159
    Personally, I like their rules.

    Me too.
    But the Hoplophobic article is a fat minus for a fierce unconfirmed nonsense, which, for "truthfulness," was slightly diluted with truth. KG / AM caroch.
    30000 Americans die every year from firearms

    Nonsense, substitution of concepts and manipulation / manipulation of facts.
    FBI statistics for 10,11,12,13,14 years;
    www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-us/2014/crime-in-the-us-2014/table
    s / expanded-homicide-data / expanded_homicide_data_table_8_murder_victims_by_weapon
    _2010-2014.xls
    And in contrast with us where wearing is prohibited; Ministry of Internal Affairs Crime State - January-December 2015:
    As a result of criminal attacks 32,9 thousand people died, 48,8 thousand people suffered serious damage to health
    https://mvd.ru/folder/101762/item/7087734/
    On the other hand, it is not noticeable that the prohibition of the short barrel and its wearing in Russia greatly prevented thugs and thugs from killing fellow citizens.
    Every third inhabitant of America among the acquaintances had a man who was shot dead for one reason or another.

    Only if this every "one-third" lives in places of compact residence of blacks and his relative was shot in the process of participating in the showdown of local gangs.
    Moreover, one in five children living in the United States has witnessed a shootout at least once in a lifetime.

    Only if each of these "one-fifth children" is a relative of a "one-third" relative who was shot in the process of gang violence.
    Until recently, weapons in the United States were sometimes easier to acquire than a can of beer.

    Yeah, and every self-respecting American could have a freshly drunk can of beer, he would have a snack with a freshly-fried black gay baby.
    The president has repeatedly tried to introduce some restrictions on the carrying of weapons, but in America the arms lobby is too strong, Congress blocked these initiatives.

    Too strong "arms lobby" of the United States is the US Citizens, from whom the number of petitions and negative responses in response to the idiotic Hoplophobic initiatives is calculated in numbers with six or more zeros.
  • Floock
    Floock 20 January 2016 06: 24 New
    +3
    Mortality from cigarettes is 10 times higher than from weapons)

    Just as Russia had at one time the foundations of a nation - Autocracy, Orthodoxy, Nationality, so the Americans have the right to arms is the basis of the nation. The last one in my opinion, which they left ...
    1. Mera joota
      Mera joota 20 January 2016 07: 09 New
      +8
      Quote: Floock
      The last one in my opinion, which they left ...

      US citizens can protect themselves from the state, what could be more important?
    2. Aleksander
      Aleksander 20 January 2016 09: 01 New
      13
      Quote: Floock
      Just as Russia had at one time the foundations of a nation - Autocracy, Orthodoxy, Nationality, so the Americans have the right to arms is the basis of the nation


      By the way, before the revolution in Russia, weapons were sold freely, including revolvers and pistols. The state trusted its subjects. Lenin was arrested in A-Hungary for .... a pistol found in his belongings.
    3. Scraptor
      Scraptor 20 January 2016 09: 25 New
      +9
      Moreover, cigarettes vryatli saved someone's life ... especially when someone, or someone with his wife (and children) is "asked to smoke" in a dark place or in his own house. laughing

      Therefore, to write it on a par with tobacco, drugs and alcohol, they are all in vain ... bully
    4. otto meer
      otto meer 20 January 2016 10: 04 New
      -7
      Quote: Floock
      among Americans, the right to arms is the foundation of a nation.
      Sorry, but the Americans (sshantsy) is not a nation, because a nation (from lat. natio - tribe, people) is a historical community of people that takes shape in the process of forming a community of their territory, economic ties, a literary language, some features of culture and character, and especially nationality. The Americans are a bunch of criminals, swindlers and other dregs of Europe. And as a nation, they exist only in the inflamed imagination of American presidents and others like them.
      1. castle
        castle 20 January 2016 11: 53 New
        +3
        And in Russia there are no criminals, swindlers and any rabble, even from the republics of the former USSR? Some of the names of influential Russian thieves in law end in "... shvili" or "... dze". So, in your opinion, the Russians are not a nation, but "this is a vinaigrette, a salad with lake fungi"?
        1. otto meer
          otto meer 20 January 2016 12: 28 New
          +2
          Quote: hrad
          So in your opinion Russians are not a nation
          Exactly. Russians are a nation. Russians are a community of nations that make up the multinational state of Russia.
          Quote: hrad
          But in Russia there are no criminals, swindlers and any rabble, at least from the republics of the former USSR?
          Why not, as without them. According to statistics, in general every 8th resident of Russia is over 40k, the masculine sex is a felon. But this is not about that. The US state was originally founded precisely by European scum, and therefore they live according to the law, according to concepts, profiting from someone else's grief. While the state of Russia was founded by the best of the best and we live, no matter how it spread rotten power, in truth, in good conscience, helping everyone and pitying everyone. That's all.
          Quote: hrad
          Some of the names of influential Russian thieves in law end with "... shvili" or "... dze"
          And some on "ev", on "s", and also on "o". So what? What does this prove?
          1. castle
            castle 20 January 2016 13: 12 New
            +4
            Yes, criminals were sent to the territory of new, unexplored lands. And to North America and Australia, and to New Zealand, but they fled there from hunger, and from religious persecution, and from their villains, tyrant rulers. They ran away with the hope that a new free life would begin there. Not everyone succeeded, though. But, on the other hand, these refugees, criminals, representatives of indigenous peoples, and slaves brought from Africa, managed to create a certain coalition and proclaim the independence of the new territories from the British Crown. And the British Crown declared all these people criminals. Yes, they fought with the British troops, and they fought among themselves, but in the end they created a very viable state. Rather, if you count, then the state, and the United States, and Australia, and New Zealand. Speaking specifically about India and Pakistai. This is a different story. Although bloody. Although Siberia, the Far North-East and Alaska, too, Russia did not go without the blood of indigenous peoples.
          2. Sergej1972
            Sergej1972 20 January 2016 14: 04 New
            +1
            The term "nation" is ambiguous. There is a nation in the ethnic sense. This term is close, but not entirely identical to the concepts of "nationality", "ethnos". And there is the so-called "political nation".
          3. Sergej1972
            Sergej1972 20 January 2016 14: 28 New
            +1
            Russian (Great Russians) is an ethnos, and quite homogeneous, although some of the Russians are also descendants of assimilated representatives of non-Russian peoples. Russians are a political nation, a collection of citizens of the Russian Federation (representatives of various indigenous nations and nationalities of the Russian Federation and national minorities). Minorities in the Russian Federation do not confuse with indigenous peoples. In the Russian Federation, national minorities are representatives of peoples having their own state formations outside the Russian Federation or representatives of stateless peoples such as Roma and Assyrians. Although not everything is clear here. Dagestan Azerbaijanis and Kazakhs of the Orenburg and Astrakhan regions are representatives of the indigenous peoples of the Russian Federation. Judging by the letter of the law, then the Ukrainians of Crimea are representatives of the indigenous people of the Russian Federation. In reality, of course, the majority of citizens of the Russian Federation, Ukrainians and Belarusians, by self-consciousness, are already part of the Great Russians. Another, also quite a considerable part of the Ukrainians and Belarusians of the Russian Federation feel that they are a special part of the Russians, different from the Great Russians. It must be admitted that some of the Russian Ukrainians and Belarusians recognize themselves only as Russians, but do not consider themselves to be Russians.
            Plus, it should be borne in mind that the mass of Russian-speaking representatives of the Volga, Siberian peoples in the Russian Federation only formally relate to their ethnic groups, but their identity is Russian. One of them during the census already calls himself Russian (especially many of them among the Finno-Ugric peoples). Finally, some Russians have a double identity, some even multiple. And there is some, I think a small, number of Russians indifferently related to their nationality.
            Here, of course, for convenience it is quite appropriate to use Gumilev's term "Russian superethnos" (another question is how correct it is from a scientific point of view), whose representatives on the territory of the Russian Federation are more than Russians (Great Russians), but fewer than Russians.
      2. Sergej1972
        Sergej1972 20 January 2016 14: 01 New
        +3
        In fact, the existence of the American nation, the so-called American Americans (by the way, not all US citizens consider themselves representatives of this nation) are recognized by the vast majority of ethnologists in Europe and Russia. and the fact of the existence of an American political nation is generally stupid to deny.
        "The historical community of people, formed in the course of the formation of a community of their territory, economic relations, literary language, some features of culture and character." The Americans of the USA have all this. Like other nations of this kind - Brazilians, Mexicans, Argentines, Cubans.
    5. Megatron
      Megatron 20 January 2016 12: 28 New
      +6
      You can have a different attitude to the free carrying of weapons, but one thing I can say for sure - in the states, what happened in Cologne would not be possible anywhere. Guess why?
      1. castle
        castle 20 January 2016 13: 14 New
        +3
        Thanks to the Czech and Slovak gun laws, these "refugees" are in no hurry to visit us.
  • cap
    cap 20 January 2016 06: 34 New
    10
    Weapons as well as ammunition became the privilege of the rich.
    As well as amateur hunting. This is frustrating.
    One shot from 30 rubles. We have possession of weapons has become a luxury.
    I do not like America. But in terms of civilian weapons, we are not going there.
    All rifle organizations are private offices. DOSAAF is involuntarily recalled.
    They taught you how to shoot from small school starting from school. FREE.
    And this is one of the elements of military training.
    Thanks to the author. Everything is served beautifully.
    1. kostya_a
      kostya_a 20 January 2016 10: 32 New
      +2
      In fact, 15 rubles, the cheapest shot cartridge, is not so expensive. If you twist it yourself, even cheaper
      1. PSih2097
        PSih2097 20 January 2016 12: 05 New
        +2
        Quote: kostya_a
        In fact, 15 rubles, the cheapest shot cartridge, is not so expensive. If you twist it yourself, even cheaper

        get the order of the dime, but for this it will be necessary to invest well ...
        1. otto meer
          otto meer 20 January 2016 12: 40 New
          -1
          Quote: PSih2097
          get the order of the chervonets

          This is if you buy everything. And if with its sleeves, wad, shot, then the ruble is 2,5-4.
          Quote: PSih2097
          but for this it will be necessary to invest well ...
          Wow, that's for sure ...
    2. SlavaP
      SlavaP 20 January 2016 19: 39 New
      +1
      In Britain too. Only half a day at the shooting range you need to pay 40-50 pounds, plus ammunition another minimum pounds on 20-30. A good AR-15 costs 2-3 thousands.
  • Nitarius
    Nitarius 20 January 2016 07: 13 New
    +2
    Is it like advertising what and how is good there?
    Well, we can buy weapons in the same way. Prove that you are not a psychiatrist, etc.!
    Our rules are much more adequate! you can’t give everyone a weapon ... what a nonsense!
    1. would
      would 20 January 2016 10: 28 New
      +6
      Well, we can buy weapons in the same way


      Not the same. Firstly, a bunch of bureaucracy, which greatly delays the process in relation to most states by a factor of thousands, and secondly, restrictions are no big deal. I can buy the monstrous Boar-12 right now, but I can buy the small .22LR only after 5 years of owning the aforementioned monster. Children shoot from such small children in training, but adults do not. Want a short barrel? You are a drunk from the nation of alcoholics (this is what the "people's" elected representatives say on the air), you will shoot each other, no, no. But the monstrous 12 gauge, assault rifles, submachine guns, sniper rifles, including those under the Lapua Magnum, is easy. Well, okay, I bought it and the moment has come to use it for an extremely bad character. In the best case, you will sit in a pre-trial detention center, spend money on lawyers, lose an incredible amount of nerve cells and you may be acquitted, and not given some light punishment, so that you would leave the pre-trial detention center, not go to jail, but remain guilty. And they will be judged not by self-defense, in court they can easily not deny the fact of an attack, etc. etc.

      In the United States, most states do not sell weapons to everyone. They pierce a person at all bases within a few minutes and if they see that he is clean, then they will sell it. By the way, within the framework of the survey, a psychiatrist can reveal only serious undisguised mental pathologies; we communicate with him to a large extent only for the sake of paranoia.
    2. kostya_a
      kostya_a 20 January 2016 10: 34 New
      +2
      The nonsense is that, according to our legislation, it is possible to purchase only smooth-bore weapons, short-barrels are not allowed at all, rifled only after 5 years. U.S. shooting culture higher
      1. PSih2097
        PSih2097 20 January 2016 12: 10 New
        +4
        Quote: kostya_a
        The nonsense is that, according to our legislation, it is possible to purchase only smooth-bore weapons, short-barrels are not allowed at all, rifled only after 5 years.

        but in the army you can’t get anywhere from a rifled one, and here you get a collision, if in the army you go with Kalash, SVD, BCC / AC, you carry the Grach / APS / Makarka in a holster, then the civilian nichrome has a smoothbore - 5 years without violations - rifled ...
    3. castle
      castle 20 January 2016 12: 33 New
      +1
      Sir, where in Russia is it allowed to buy a short-barreled military weapon to protect your home and family or yourself on the streets? And the traumatic weapons permitted in Russia only increase the risk of using them, and in situations that are not sufficiently justified for the use of weapons. Like, I'll break his rib and he (s) will lag behind. However, those who know how to handle trauma and trauma will be killed. Better combat, there a hundred times, with lightning speed, you will figure out whether you need to "multiply the trunk" or, it is better to release the situation on the brakes. And if you bare the trunk, if you are a civilian and not a bandit, you can, without shame, retreat.
      1. Scraptor
        Scraptor 20 January 2016 17: 39 New
        +2
        ... and the bandits have no "shame"? bully
  • Nix1986
    Nix1986 20 January 2016 07: 27 New
    11
    The key problem is not the possibility of acquiring weapons, but in the legislative framework for their use. That's exactly what in asashai I like. And we have an excellent mechanism for filling prisons and putting sticks in the footsteps - an article for exceeding the limits of permissible self-defense. Those. a crowd of cattle came to me with a knife, I have to call and call the police, then look at the size of the knife, the ability to control it with the bandit, where this knife is directed at me and his desire to hit and only if they stuck a knife in my eye, then I can shoot his thigh out of the trauma, and before that I need to call witnesses who will confirm that I didn’t stuck a knife in my eye myself.
    1. cth; fyn
      cth; fyn 20 January 2016 10: 03 New
      +2
      A warning shot into the air was forgotten from a 4-charging wasp.
      1. Scraptor
        Scraptor 20 January 2016 17: 41 New
        +1
        you can have 2 more (there was such a thing) from a 2-charge "guard"
  • Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 20 January 2016 07: 30 New
    +8
    Honestly, I really wanted to slap the article minus. I hoped to read about the production of cartridges, read the statistics of the United States on a firearm, and sharpened by the negative. negative
  • inkass_98
    inkass_98 20 January 2016 07: 31 New
    +5
    The factory is still producing bullets, not bullets. Like a little different things.
    1. moskowit
      moskowit 20 January 2016 18: 57 New
      +1
      Yes, I immediately noticed. Some kind of kindergarten ... Most likely, a thoughtless automatic translation of the text accompanying photo selection ...
  • VladimirRG
    VladimirRG 20 January 2016 08: 20 New
    +4
    They do the right thing, that they allow people to protect themselves, in our country a person is protected only with a book called a code (civil or criminal) and shrug him off in case of an attack, otherwise you will sit down under the same code.
  • Free wind
    Free wind 20 January 2016 08: 26 New
    +4
    interesting photos. and if the author told at least a little about cartridges ..... last year in the United States 13000 people died by violent death, and not from a gunshot, but all. in Russia about the same, from axes and kitchen knives. The right to self-defense in America is good. holes are visible in some bullets, as I understand doom dumas.
  • Heimdall47
    Heimdall47 20 January 2016 08: 46 New
    +2
    Well done - trust their own citizens, not like ours
    1. otto meer
      otto meer 20 January 2016 10: 17 New
      +1
      Quote: Heimdall47
      Well done - trust their own citizens
      I would not say that, the system of global control over their citizens in Asashia is much cooler than ours. Another thing is that our government is ready to drown in the blood any discontent of its citizens. Otherwise, why the number of power structures directed against internal aggression (the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, etc.) is higher than against the external (Army, Navy, etc.). About 2,5 million (with an upward trend) versus 1,8 million (with a downward trend). request
  • Alex_T
    Alex_T 20 January 2016 09: 05 New
    +2
    I will supplement the article with a photograph from the Tula Museum of Arms.
  • Alex_T
    Alex_T 20 January 2016 09: 06 New
    +4
    Pulling the sleeve.
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  • Rebus
    Rebus 20 January 2016 09: 29 New
    +2
    I found casings, WWII times, 7,62x54 American-made, on the bottom there was an inscription "Remington" and some numbers were not legible (they had been in the ground since the war), so in terms of safety they looked much better than the German 7,92x57 casings found, of the same time , which indicates the high quality of American-made cartridges. All the German sleeves found were thoroughly rotten and out of shape, and our (American-made) sleeves were only heavily oxidized, but did not lose their shape.
    1. cth; fyn
      cth; fyn 20 January 2016 10: 05 New
      +3
      The Germans saved, and understood that they would not have to store for a long time anyway.
    2. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 20 January 2016 10: 10 New
      +3
      Quote: Rebus
      so in terms of safety they looked much better than found German cartridges 7,92x57

      The Germans also made first of brass, then, due to lack of color, they switched to steel sleeves. I have a 36 year old brass sleeve. P249 S * 5 36. hi
      1. Rebus
        Rebus 20 January 2016 10: 39 New
        +1
        I googled here, it turns out that the Americans supplied us with cartridges, during the Second World War, paid and made back in 1915-1917 by royal order ... They also boasted that supposedly gratuitous help, that’s mercenary reptiles.
        1. castle
          castle 20 January 2016 14: 52 New
          +1
          The Lend and Lease Act itself, signed by the leadership (I do not specifically write "the government") of the USSR, did not provide for the gratuitous provision of anything to anyone. I don’t know where you get it from and why you spread false information about impropriety. In reality - everything for money (and other dressers).
  • cth; fyn
    cth; fyn 20 January 2016 10: 00 New
    +5
    The sale of weapons should be legal, not free.
  • Leader
    Leader 20 January 2016 10: 09 New
    +7
    I am a supporter of the legal "short-barreled", but the article was written by an opponent of weapons and is full of inaccuracies and outright delirium.
    Any analysis shows that with the growth of citizens' protection, crime decreases. This is especially evident in almost all - the so-called street crime (financial and other crimes - not dependent).
    And impunity only increases the number and severity of offenses. An example is today's bacchanalia in the Moscow train.
    By the way, 2 times more people die in Russia than in the United States - with the opposite difference in the number of people.

    The ban on weapons is natural in a country where the police are able to successfully fight crime.
    And our citizens in our police rightly see either parasites or criminals. And they have no hope for it.
  • would
    would 20 January 2016 10: 21 New
    +1
    The USA is the leader among the developed countries of the world in the level of violent crimes with the use of firearms. Every third inhabitant of America among the acquaintances had a man who was shot dead for one reason or another.

    Moreover, one in five children living in the United States has witnessed a shootout at least once in a lifetime. In the United States, children die from gunshot wounds eleven times more often than in other developed countries; among them is a lot of preschoolers


    Quite truthfully ... only where does it in the article on legal weapons? Skirmishes are generally satisfied Nigeria stems from the black market to be supplied according to the FBI mostly from Mexico. Legal weapons are involved in such a small number of crimes that now the case and the shooting of legal weapons remained in only 2 states: Maryland and California. At the same time, there has been talk for several years about the uselessness of a cartridge case in Maryland.

    Until recently, weapons in the United States were sometimes easier to acquire than a can of beer. And so Obama ordered to check all buyers of weapons, including those who buy "trunks" on the Internet and at exhibitions. The president has repeatedly tried to introduce some restrictions on the carrying of weapons, but in America the arms lobby is too strong; Congress blocked these initiatives.


    Obama issued extremely streamlined instructions that actually, and not verbally, repeat the current local state rules. In fact, in fact, he didn’t make much difference only if before his decree the past of the person buying the trunk was checked according to state law, now they will check according to federal law. As for the strength of a certain arms lobby ... Do you know what budget is the main lobbying organization NRA? In 2012, it was 3 million dollars. For such an organization, this is ridiculous money that real lobbyists laugh at who have completely different money spinning.
    1. would
      would 20 January 2016 10: 40 New
      +1
      What is the budget of the main lobbying organization NRA? In 2012, it was 3 million dollars.


      Here it is worth clarifying. This is the lobbying budget. You can look at the data here https://www.opensecrets.org/lobby/clientsum.php?id=D000000082 and compare with other companies is also possible.
  • Dragon-y
    Dragon-y 20 January 2016 10: 44 New
    +3
    It is unclear whether the author wanted to scare us?
    And from where "30 per year killed by gunshot"? .. Something I doubt ...
    1. would
      would 20 January 2016 10: 53 New
      +4
      And you asked the right question. I'll give you a link to FBI statistics on gunshot killings for 2007-2011 (I haven’t found a newer yet)

      https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2011/crime-in-the-u.s.-20

      11 / tables / expanded-homicide-data-table-8

      There are 2 times smaller numbers.

      UPD

      Found in 2014, but here it is by state.

      https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2014/crime-in-the-u.s.-20
      14 / tables / table-20
  • Vovanya
    Vovanya 20 January 2016 10: 58 New
    -3
    Already, there are technical solutions for installing various locks in weapons, and passwords for unlocking these systems can be stored by the police and the owner. Moreover, these blocking systems can block a shot from a weapon to a person who does not know the password, and even to the owner, if, for example, the OVD sent out SMS-locks, for example, for hunting weapons not in the hunting season. By the way, the cartridges themselves can be screwed up, which will raise the level of safety one more step. So the problem of unauthorized use is solved quite simply. Moreover, even during the "riots" you can turn off the rioters' weapons and solve the problems peacefully. To do this, you need to do some work to replace old weapons and ammunition with new ones. But then all our "famous" arms shops will go around the world.
    1. cth; fyn
      cth; fyn 23 January 2016 10: 55 New
      +1
      One gun is not a reason to make loud statements, just one prototype, it's crumbs!
  • sdv68
    sdv68 20 January 2016 11: 18 New
    -5
    A personal firearm "on the pocket" is, of course, cool, but I have only one question about this. Has this "pocket gun" actually helped anyone in a real "crisis situation" or not? Those. when somewhere someone armed (of course a bandit) arranges a "turmoil", how many willing "respectable citizens" were found to him (a bandit in the sense) to oppose their ability to handle a firearm and simply blow out the brains of an entoma bandit. If the scraper does not change me, then I have not heard something about such "cowboys". There are a lot of gunfire attacks in the states (according to the news). But about self-defense (if this is not related to the defense of the home), I have not heard something. Everyone, for some reason, hopes for the cops - it's their job. Then why bother with personal weapons "on the pocket" if they are not used for protection?

    PS: On this occasion, I always remember the interview with Chuck Noris. When he was asked 10-20 years ago, what he would do if a puny rolled up to him on the street and "asked" for a wallet. He then replied that he would just give the wallet.
    1. would
      would 20 January 2016 11: 30 New
      +4
      Has this "pocket gun" actually helped anyone in a real "crisis situation" or not?


      Yes, many to whom, I will show only a scanty amount.

      http://truthuncensored.net/6-time-felon-killed-in-shootout-by-13-year-old-during


      -home-invasion / # sthash.z9bcBkXB.dpbs
      http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/09/15/woman-shoots-kills-alleged-ho


      me-invader-one-hour-wait-911-response /
      https://i.imgur.com/PqtvQTh.gifv

      https://youtu.be/EybxmPaSR6A

      (here a couple of things are not from the USA, but it doesn’t really change anything)


      were there many willing "respectable citizens"


      The question is honestly stupid and it looks like this: you, your family, your children are now going to rob, kill, torment. They are already breaking into your house / already killing. Do you have a desire to fight back with this * bad word * or will you not resist and allow them to do what was intended?
      1. would
        would 20 January 2016 11: 44 New
        +2
        I’ve specifically found it outside the house, although I don’t see much difference.

        http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f83_1406922060
        http://crimeresearch.org/2015/04/uber-driver-in-chicago-stops-mass-public-shooti
        ng /
        http://bearingarms.com/florida-deputy-stops-attempted-spree-killing-in-car-deale
        rship-in-less-than-60-seconds /
    2. av58
      av58 20 January 2016 12: 38 New
      +2
      Try asking the victim if the weapon helped him. He will ask an answer question: "What kind of weapon? Where can I get it?"
      On the other hand, try to answer the question: "Where was the state represented by the police, etc., when people were robbed, raped and killed? Who was supposed to protect and did not protect?"
      1. vitalius
        vitalius 23 February 2016 09: 56 New
        0
        Quote: av58
        Try asking the victim if the weapon helped him. He will ask an answer question: "What kind of weapon? Where can I get it?"
        On the other hand, try to answer the question: "Where was the state represented by the police, etc., when people were robbed, raped and killed? Who was supposed to protect and did not protect?"

        The functions of the police: prevention, investigation, ensuring the inevitability of punishment, and saving the drowning at the time of drowning, as before, are the work of the drowning themselves.
  • Fat
    Fat 20 January 2016 11: 33 New
    +4
    Quote: inkass_98
    The factory is still producing bullets, not bullets. Like a little different things.

    So the article is a translation, and a rather oak one. Bullet - Bullet or "unitary" small arms ammunition equipped with a bullet.
  • fa2998
    fa2998 20 January 2016 11: 38 New
    +4
    Quote: Dragon-y
    It is unclear whether the author wanted to scare us?
    And from where "30 per year killed by gunshot"? .. Something I doubt ...

    This number includes suicides, sloppy possession of weapons (accidents). Direct killings are much less.
    I am also for selling weapons to law-abiding citizens. Bandits are already armed, including machine guns and grenade launchers! And without any hunting societies. I'm not going to hunt!
    And yet, they cannot rearm officers — there is no money, and WHAT TO DO WITH MILLIONS OF PM AND BILLION. PATRONOV TO THEM ??? - so sell it to people, and money will appear! Or our army and police will be another 50 years with PM. hi PC-by the way, PM itself is a good weapon, but it’s morally outdated. hi
  • Bosk
    Bosk 20 January 2016 12: 05 New
    +1
    I remembered a fragment from "Interns" - "Bill, is it true that in America everyone walks down the street with weapons? - No, not all are just criminals ..."
  • av58
    av58 20 January 2016 12: 39 New
    +1
    The author of the article is a liar and hoplophobe, but the photos are good.
  • Vladimir
    Vladimir 20 January 2016 13: 05 New
    +3
    Quote: sdv68
    Then why bother with personal weapons "on the pocket" if they are not used for protection?


    If you have a legitimate weapon in your pocket, use it for protection, and if for show-offs, then you need to go with him at home. As for me, it's better that 12 are judged than 6 are.
  • 25ru
    25ru 20 January 2016 13: 25 New
    +4
    Good photos, but the text part itself is strange. What did the author want to say? recourse
    Five kopecks on weapons in the hands of civilians in that country:
    Idaho State (northeast states). My mother (citizenship of both Russia and the USA) has Glock-36 presented to her on her hands and constantly with her in her purse. Caliber -45. She completed the necessary training at the local branch of the shooting association. Monthly shoots back at the shooting range there. Weapons are registered by notification only in the same association.
    The husband is a simple pensioner, passionate shooter and hunter. Six "long" barrels in the house, up to and including AR semi-automatic, cartridges are often riveted by himself. Only rifled long-barreled weapons for live ammunition from caliber 357 are registered. When buying a license for a large game, he takes his favorite barrel for hunting - our KO-44 (7,62 x 53), although their production is a license.
    The need to use weapons to protect life and property did not arise
  • sergeyzzz
    sergeyzzz 20 January 2016 13: 38 New
    +1
    Quote: Nitarius
    you can’t give everyone a weapon ... what a nonsense!

    They can winked
  • 25ru
    25ru 20 January 2016 13: 54 New
    +1
    Quote: Vladimir 
    If you have a legitimate weapon in your pocket, use it for protection, and if for show-offs, then you need to go with him at home.

    Sense with a weapon at home for "show-off" to walk? The weapon should be with you, your task is to be able to handle it and know the legal restrictions on its use. I do not mind if I, even at home and in the safe, have a normal firearm, the use of which I have been trained and am confident that I can both train and use as needed.
    Quote: sergeyzzz
    They can

    Can’t we?
  • uskrabut
    uskrabut 20 January 2016 13: 54 New
    +5
    The main thing that I like about US criminal law is the presumption of innocence (real, not ours). Until the car of evidence is collected on you, until the prosecutor convinces the 12 jurors, until they confirm your guilt by a majority, you are an honest citizen. Therefore, with weapons they are all easier - all citizens are a priori respectable.
    Well, the laws to protect themselves loved and their property at their height. Try breaking into their house without an invitation.
    1. Nix1986
      Nix1986 20 January 2016 14: 19 New
      +5
      I like the principle of a set of terms rather than absorption, as we do. That the judicial system aims at lifelong closure of repeat offenders. Very logical and correct. You stole the jacket for the first time - condition, everything happens, stumbled; stole a second time - the average term, sit and think about your actions; stole the third time - you get the most complete - you are not correctable and present a constant danger to citizens. Only in our country recidivists have 5-6 walkers.
  • 25ru
    25ru 20 January 2016 13: 58 New
    0
    Quote: uskrabut
    Therefore, with weapons they are all easier - all citizens are a priori respectable.

    This gives rise to another wave - the right of a police officer to use a weapon first to defeat at the slightest doubt about your adequacy. The famous rule of the traffic police: hands on the steering wheel - position 9-12. Failure - you can get a bullet without warning at the slightest gestures.
  • 25ru
    25ru 20 January 2016 14: 35 New
    +1
    I will add from personal communication with a law-abiding citizen of that country (well, reflection here goes to the abbreviation - USA).
    That same position of hands on the steering wheel 9-12 did not come from the ceiling. In the states, the driver sits on the left. The algorithm of the traffic police:
    1. Pursuit and spin on the roadside with the call of duty reinforcement.
    2. The police car takes a position behind and to the left, the wheels are turned out to ram the intruder.
    3. The verification officer approaches from behind — hiding behind the hull of the patrol car and the unseen sector of the intruder’s car. Holster - unbuttoned, the right hand on the handle of the service weapon, the fuse is removed, there is a continuous video recording. Partner - provides cover and guidance of the gain group.
    4. The officer, approaching the stopped car, must see both hands of the driver on the steering wheel, precisely in position 9-12. Disobedience or, God forbid, bickering with a police officer in this situation - is very fraught with health.
  • Fat
    Fat 20 January 2016 16: 06 New
    +2
    Interesting. The Sullivan Act (New York State, 1911) restricted the circulation of firearms. This was immediately taken advantage of by the gangs hired by industrial and financial tycoons for "convincing" pressure on the strikers. In the Russian Empire, the turnover of weapons, although it was within the framework of the "permissive" system, was very free, for example, the authorities did not need permission for smooth-bore weapons; Until 1906, if desired, it was possible to purchase at least a machine gun ... The first Soviet version of Salivan's law was adopted in 1918.http: //vooruzhen.ru/supporter/lib/107/486/
    Summary: Gun bans are a tool of the "class struggle" request what
  • voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 20 January 2016 17: 00 New
    +2
    Their gunpowder is good, very clean. Does not deposit.
    After hundreds of shots, the gun does not need to be cleaned.
    And after 100 rounds of Czech ammunition, everything inside is black.
    Only here are American cartridges worth one and a half times more expensive.
  • 25ru
    25ru 20 January 2016 17: 22 New
    -2
    Quote: voyaka uh
    Only here are American cartridges worth one and a half times more expensive.

    An enchanting amount? Sound the price range of calibers 5,45-8,58, well, KK -12,7-14,5mm, manufactured in the USA. There is such a universal sexual pervert in caliber - 11,43. I, with a certain delay, because the night came in, I will give you a price tag on the USA market, not from catalogs, but in fact of arms auctions. If you mean army purchases, then "pass" is competitive deliveries, where everyone is dumping black.
    1. SlavaP
      SlavaP 20 January 2016 19: 45 New
      +1
      I don’t know how in America, we have used production facilities (Germany, for example) cost £ 40-50 for 50 pieces 5.45 and £ 70-80 for 50 pieces 7.62. This is retail.
  • miha77
    miha77 20 January 2016 18: 17 New
    -5
    guys why do you say 30000 deaths a year and that’s just from a gunshot!
  • saygon66
    saygon66 20 January 2016 22: 28 New
    +1
    - At present, in the Russian Federation, according to statistics, 5 million people own firearms (officially!) ... How are we still alive? I do not understand... smile
    1. would
      would 20 January 2016 22: 46 New
      +2
      I'll even post this document to your message
      1. saygon66
        saygon66 20 January 2016 23: 14 New
        +1
        - I read ... "142 crimes ..." As I understand it, detailed statistics are not available, but what cases were included in this list? In how many cases "trauma" was noted, in how many illegally stored and acquired weapons, shooting at weddings ...
        - I myself work with weapons and own a "smoothbore", like many of my friends, well, there are no bloodthirsty and. Dyots among them ... ready to shoot at everything that moves ...
        -Moreover, there are shooting galleries, the cost of an hour to rent a place 1-1,5 TR, shoot, I don’t want to ...
        1. would
          would 21 January 2016 01: 41 New
          +4
          This list includes all crimes from time to time without any division. The person who wrote the request asked to indicate the categories of crimes, but this was not done in the response. Why? There is an opinion that because a considerable part of these crimes are some sort of poaching or "sort of" poaching and other insignificant things that you also mentioned. The desired picture will not work. And there is an opinion that the Ministry of Internal Affairs did not take care of this issue themselves and cannot make a clear division.

          But in general, what is the meaning of the document: In the country there are at least more than 5 million barrels, including injuries from which they allegedly shoot everywhere and always ... and for half a year of 2012, only 142 crimes were registered. In percentage terms, it is 0.003%.

          In 2013, there were 583 such crimes again without any separation.

          So including you are right. We are promised monthly executions in schools, executions during brawls on the roads, general armaments and, in general, hell and Israel. But in fact, we see that there is nothing even far from this ...
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  • Leader
    Leader 21 January 2016 10: 15 New
    0
    Quote: Vovanya
    By the way, the cartridges themselves can be ruined ...

    Come on! laughing This is only zhurnalyugi can come up with ...
    Quote: fa2998
    PM is a good weapon, but morally outdated.

    PM - one of the best pistols in the world and fully performs its tasks.
    But the tank doesn’t break through - it's true ... smile But he had not pierced before. And not intended for this.
    How can PM become obsolete? Give an example, please.
    Quote: 25ru
    hands on the steering wheel - position 9-12.

    Probably meant 10-2?
    Quote: rait
    But there is an opinion that they simply did not concern themselves with this issue in the Ministry of Internal Affairs and cannot make a clear separation.

    Yes, they have nothing to say on this issue - there is no compromising evidence.
    It is believed that the Ministry of Internal Affairs opposes the arming of citizens, because is a servant of power. And our authorities do not need citizens with self-esteem - it’s hard to manage such people, it will be necessary to take into account the wishes of citizens ...
    1. would
      would 22 January 2016 00: 29 New
      +1
      It is believed that the Ministry of Internal Affairs opposes the arming of citizens, because is a servant of power.


      IMHO in the framework of the discussion of the "fortress doctrine" they proved it by making stupid negative reviews.
  • Razvedka_Boem
    Razvedka_Boem 21 January 2016 11: 51 New
    +2
    In the world, more than a million people die in road accidents each year. In Russia, an average of 30.000 people die in road accidents per year. About one million people die every year from medical errors in the world, in Russia, approximately 50.000 people.
    And you are afraid that the free sale of weapons is evil ..) I think the crooked-handed doctors and would have taken less. In general, people would become more polite and kinder. And they would not be engaged in demagogy, but worked.
  • vlavek
    vlavek 21 January 2016 17: 14 New
    -3
    Quote: martin-159
    Personally, I like their rules.


    If Americans and Russians are put under arms and sent against each other, Americans will shoot ours as partridges
    1. Razvedka_Boem
      Razvedka_Boem 22 January 2016 18: 12 New
      0
      Do not judge by yourself. Maybe you will stand like a partridge.
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