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Dutch parliamentarians "suspect" that Dutch public opinion on Ukraine’s Euro-Association has an impact on Russia

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Opinion polls in the Netherlands show that around 70% of Dutch people do not consider it necessary to approve the association agreement between Ukraine and the EU. Recall that the Netherlands is preparing for a referendum, which will raise the question of precisely the feasibility for the European Union to follow the path of association in relation to Ukraine. Despite the fact that the results of such a referendum in Holland are more advisory in nature, and that the head of government has the authority to simply ignore the results of the will of the people, in Amsterdam, they are still concerned about the mood of citizens.


In order not to be in a puddle, deputies of the country's parliament of tulips from the D-66 party decided to turn to the country's foreign ministry to clarify the question of (attention!) Russia's possible influence on Dutch public opinion ... Information about its "concerns about Russia's possible influence on ordinary Dutch people “And the request to the Foreign Ministry of the country on Twitter is shared by the member of the Dutch Parliament Mr. Verhoeven:
Are there any signs in your field of vision that the upcoming referendum on the Association Agreement between Ukraine and the EU can be influenced in some way, including financially, by Russia?


Dutch parliamentarians "suspect" that Dutch public opinion on Ukraine’s Euro-Association has an impact on Russia


This request was made against the background of the information that the US Congress is implementing a program aimed at establishing the “facts of financing European parties by Russia”. One of the directions of the “investigation” is associated with Russian charity, which, according to Western paranoids, can be used to shape public opinion in the countries of the European Union.

In general, everything became clear: if the Dutch suddenly vote against the association agreement between Ukraine and the EU, it will be announced that people were under the “information pressure of Russia”, and then the results will be adjusted to “democratic norms” ...
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  1. A-Sim
    A-Sim 19 January 2016 13: 31 New
    23
    Be free - pay for Ukraine !!!


    Someone hung a flag against me ...

    How to reset that ????
    1. Vend
      Vend 19 January 2016 13: 33 New
      +6
      Dutch parliamentarians "suspect" that Dutch public opinion on Ukraine’s Euro-Association has an impact on Russia
      Yes, their embassies of Russia come home to every Dutchman and take them by the breast laughing
      1. makst83
        makst83 19 January 2016 13: 33 New
        31
        said straight with an accent! laughing
        1. cniza
          cniza 19 January 2016 14: 07 New
          +7
          In general, everything became clear: if the Dutch suddenly vote against the association agreement between Ukraine and the EU, it will be announced that people were under the “information pressure of Russia”, and then the results will be adjusted to “democratic norms” ...


          Again, Russia is to blame ... it seems to me that all politicians from House No. 6 do not like their own citizens - they are for Russia.
          1. Altona
            Altona 19 January 2016 15: 21 New
            0
            Quote: cniza
            Again Russia is to blame ...

            --------------------
            The Dutch directly say that they already have Syrians, packs, Afghans, blacks caught up with them. They still lacked Ukrainian plumbers and Ukrainian women available. Is this Russian propaganda? Quite a cuckoo set off at their rulers. They don’t know where else to lick the United States.
        2. EFA
          EFA 19 January 2016 14: 24 New
          +2
          And the Dutch smile back sweetly at him:
          1. Altona
            Altona 19 January 2016 15: 22 New
            0
            Quote: EFA
            And the Dutch smile back sweetly at him:

            -------------------
            Schwarzenegger is an Austrian ...
        3. JACTUS RECTUS
          JACTUS RECTUS 19 January 2016 15: 55 New
          +2
          Even Sodomites despise traitors.
        4. Bkmz
          Bkmz 19 January 2016 20: 17 New
          +1
          Cocainum (s)
      2. Ami du peuple
        Ami du peuple 19 January 2016 13: 35 New
        20
        Are there any signs in your field of vision that the upcoming referendum on the Association Agreement between Ukraine and the EU can be influenced in some way, including financially, by Russia?

        Naturally! These Russians ... They are everywhere!
      3. Sasha 19871987
        Sasha 19871987 19 January 2016 13: 42 New
        +7
        the people of the Dutch are simply NOT STUPID, why do they need 40 million spin-nibs, led by currency grants ???? they already had enough Arabs ... oh they merge Europe and the people understand this, that they don’t want to associate hohland ...
      4. andre
        andre 19 January 2016 13: 49 New
        27
        My recent conversation with the waiter in Amsterdam in a nutshell:
        -Rusha?
        Yes!
        -CHA zombie, watching Rush Tudey.
        -And many of you here?
        -70-80%
        The story is not made up, they are afraid of the RT channel !!!
        1. Ezhaak
          Ezhaak 19 January 2016 16: 06 New
          +2
          Quote: andre
          watching Rush Tudey.

          But my friend from Amsterdam says that this channel is propaganda. So trust everyone.
          1. avdkrd
            avdkrd 19 January 2016 22: 16 New
            0
            Quote: Hedgehog
            Quote: andre
            watching Rush Tudey.

            But my friend from Amsterdam says that this channel is propaganda. So trust everyone.

            Well, in principle, he is right, of course the propaganda channel. Any submission of information is conducted from any point of view, which is propaganda in itself, since it is the point of view that is directly or indirectly imposed. It’s another matter that RT does not fall into lies, does not falsify the results of the investigation into the downed Boeing, calls fascists in Ukraine fascists, Europeans troll with their virtual sovereignty, Americans have gray hair with every broadcast (especially after comments on State Department heralds). Inconvenient channel - indicates that it is usually silent in the West. Of course, propaganda.
          2. avdkrd
            avdkrd 19 January 2016 22: 35 New
            0
            [quote = Hedgehog] [quote = andre], watch Rush Tudey. [/ quote]
            But my friend from Amsterdam says that this channel is propaganda. So trust everyone. [/ Quote]
            Well, in principle, he is right, of course the propaganda channel. Any submission of information is conducted from any point of view, which is propaganda in itself, since it is the point of view that is directly or indirectly imposed. It’s another matter that RT does not fall into lies, does not falsify the results of the investigation into the downed Boeing, calls fascists in Ukraine fascists, Europeans troll with their virtual sovereignty, Americans have gray hair with every broadcast (especially after comments on State Department heralds). Of course propaganda. [/ Quote]
      5. seti
        seti 19 January 2016 14: 44 New
        0
        Of course - well, where without the "hand of Moscow". You understand Putin all around, money from Magadan and generally everywhere Russian agents, where the local population is trying to turn on their brains and trying to defend their interests.
        1. Lelek
          Lelek 19 January 2016 19: 30 New
          0
          Quote: seti
          You understand Putin all around, money from Magadan and generally everywhere Russian agents


          And after all, what kind of tricks suit the unexpectedly poor fellow Ukraine. Immediately with a complaint to the WTO, and since they don’t respond there, "... they will write to SPORTLOTO ..."
          (cry.)
      6. Blondy
        Blondy 19 January 2016 15: 08 New
        0
        Quote: Wend
        Dutch parliamentarians "suspect" that Dutch public opinion on Ukraine’s Euro-Association has an impact on Russia

        I do not think that in the Netherlands the situation is too different from the Russian one. There, probably, too, as deputies think, and as most people think simpler, these are two big differences, especially if you take into account the self-made Arabian hint. There, for sure, not everything can also be promoted and not all can be promoted.
      7. Ezhaak
        Ezhaak 19 January 2016 16: 04 New
        +1
        Quote: Wend
        Yes, their embassies of Russia come home to every Dutchman and take them by the breast

        Legislators and the Dutch government should be checked for exposure to overseas North American forces and their supporters in Europe
      8. Lelek
        Lelek 19 January 2016 19: 23 New
        +1
        Quote: Wend
        Yes, their embassies of Russia come home to every Dutchman and take them by the breast


        Well, the Dutch are not alone in their opinions regarding the former Ukraine; Germans, Austrians and Swiss of the same opinion:
        (cry.)
      9. meriem1
        meriem1 19 January 2016 19: 37 New
        0
        Quote: Wend
        Dutch parliamentarians "suspect" that Dutch public opinion on Ukraine’s Euro-Association has an impact on Russia
        Yes, their embassies of Russia come home to every Dutchman and take them by the breast laughing


        And at night, aliens arrive ... from Alpha Centauri and also ordered to listen to Putin .. This is a virus for everyone there. It is transmitted haphazardly.
    2. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov 19 January 2016 13: 35 New
      +7
      There is no need to do anything with the overwhelming Dutch majority. It will simply be ignored. They explained already by the box: the referendum is advisory in nature.
      1. Misha Honest
        Misha Honest 19 January 2016 13: 43 New
        +1
        The government of the Netherlands was clearly not far off from Okrainsky in terms of IQ ... Well, the Yankees are their politicians, and allied ones - the brains have pitted ...
      2. vex
        vex 19 January 2016 13: 46 New
        +2
        Are there any signs in your field of vision that the upcoming referendum on the Association Agreement between Ukraine and the EU can be influenced in some way, including financially, by Russia?

        Of course there are - these are signs of common sense, which for some reason is inaccessible to their parliament, and the simple people there have not yet lost it.
      3. Extraneous
        Extraneous 19 January 2016 14: 00 New
        +2
        If ignored, the Dutch will be embarrassed by their government in the next election. They just can’t ignore it. They will seriously substantiate with "scientific" calculations.
      4. APASUS
        APASUS 19 January 2016 19: 20 New
        0
        Quote: Denis Obukhov
        There is no need to do anything with the overwhelming Dutch majority. It will simply be ignored. They explained already by the box: the referendum is advisory in nature.

        Unfortunately, it is not advisory in nature, the association should be signed by all EU members following a referendum in the country.
        Another thing is that Ukraine itself spoiled the image. I just can’t imagine what was the flurry of publications on the theft of paintings from the museum that were later found in Ukraine. But the Dutch indignation at the demand for money for the stolen thing I can. But after filling Europe with migrants from Africa, they get any new migrants across the throat.
        And on charges of Russia - the normal PR course of the information war
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    4. Kassik
      Kassik 19 January 2016 14: 12 New
      0
      "Someone hung a flag against me ..."
      Did you change the IP address?
      1. Sid.74
        Sid.74 19 January 2016 14: 29 New
        +1
        Well, Europeans-bureaucrats are bastards ... they raised the issue of Euro-association with Ukraine. They promised them from three boxes. They arranged and supported Maidan in Europe. They imposed sanctions against Russia. They unleashed an information war against Russia and Donbass ... fool
        And now, when it became obvious that Ukraine without Crimea, without the economy, without the gold reserves, without an FTZ with Russia and nobody needs any prospects ... we decided to technically leave the topic. And we will be the last ones regardless of the outcome of the referendum.
        Enchanting ...fellow
        And note .... about the MH-17 Boeing, not a word ... as if there wasn’t it.
    5. JACTUS RECTUS
      JACTUS RECTUS 19 January 2016 15: 53 New
      +1
      The same garbage, juggles from this rag.
    6. igordok
      igordok 19 January 2016 16: 52 New
      0
      Quote: A-Sim
      Someone hung a flag against me ...

      How to reset that ????

      Do not go into RuNet from a mobile phone. Better at home, calmly, with a PC, then the NATO flags will not stick.
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  3. Sirocco
    Sirocco 19 January 2016 13: 36 New
    +2
    Strange as it is, Russia is being accused, some kind of gap pattern. Usually Putin personally arrives, and with Lavrov muddied water.))))))))))))
    And so, under the name of Russia, the Russians suspect us.)))))
    1. nicolay338
      nicolay338 19 January 2016 13: 39 New
      -1
      pi ... desh and provocation! I didn’t do anything to anyone)))
  4. Denis Obukhov
    Denis Obukhov 19 January 2016 13: 36 New
    +8
    In this way, Europe will mock Ukrainians as much as they like. Now Poroshenko or Yatsenyuk will go to Holland to lick the ass of the local guys, and even possibly agree, but no one forbids after that to take the pose of Slovakia or Greece. So Ukrainians can lick everyone’s ass for years, and it seems everyone agrees, but there is no result. But frankly, I do not feel sorry for these ukrodebilov, they chose their fate, they like to grovel, this is their desire.
    1. Ami du peuple
      Ami du peuple 19 January 2016 13: 40 New
      14
      Quote: Denis Obukhov
      I don’t feel sorry for these ukrodebilov, they chose their fate, they like to grovel, it’s their desire.

      In Galitsa, the need to grovel in front of the owner, in the blood. And the current "Ukrainians" - it is, to a greater extent, Selyukov-Galich bottling.
      1. Ezhaak
        Ezhaak 19 January 2016 16: 09 New
        +1
        Quote: Ami du peuple
        In Galitsa, the need to grovel in front of the owner, in the blood.

        But, so far they are yelling at every corner that the Russians are slaves.
  5. Mihalich17
    Mihalich17 19 January 2016 13: 36 New
    +3
    Of course Russia is affecting! )))))))))
    Where the foot of the Russian man sets foot, there is the Russian world!
    Paranoia, she’s such a brother thing that it’s not without reason that paranoia is called! )))
    Remember, euvrotpeytsy - WE ARE EVERYWHERE !!! )))
    "Morons b ... t!)))
  6. Primus pilus
    Primus pilus 19 January 2016 13: 37 New
    +2
    Well, of course, who can be more influential than us. smile
  7. inkass_98
    inkass_98 19 January 2016 13: 37 New
    +3
    The ruin is actively agitating the Dutch to vote in favor, this is not prohibited by existing legislation. Why not take part in the circus?
  8. lysyj bob
    lysyj bob 19 January 2016 13: 39 New
    +1
    Of course, Russia is affecting. They themselves are not able to influence the opinion of the people.
  9. Brutal
    Brutal 19 January 2016 13: 39 New
    +3
    Yes, you take this "shareware happiness"! We will only cross together! "The king knows what to do! Take it !!!"
    1. Marconi41
      Marconi41 19 January 2016 16: 19 New
      0
      Quote: BRUTAL
      "The king knows what to do! Take it !!!"

      It is not good to squander Russian lands. I will not quote a famous film, it will turn out too hard. No, really. She died, she died. In the grave, everyone is alone. How is Ukraine better?
  10. Russian jacket
    Russian jacket 19 January 2016 13: 40 New
    +2
    Apparently dope in the parliamentary pharmacy put up a ........
  11. 1536
    1536 19 January 2016 13: 42 New
    +2
    There will be no Russia, they will blame whom? Who should I file a complaint against? Fight with each other and all together destroy all of humanity! And as always, the Netherlands will be at the head. After all, it was this country that was the first to carry out a bourgeois revolution in itself, and knows a lot about capitalism and not to miss its profit.
    1. neri73-r
      neri73-r 19 January 2016 14: 14 New
      0
      Quote: 1536
      There will be no Russia, they will blame whom? Who should I file a complaint against? Fight with each other and all together destroy all of humanity! And as always, the Netherlands will be at the head. After all, it was this country that was the first to carry out a bourgeois revolution in itself, and knows a lot about capitalism and not to miss its profit.



      How to whom? China, after us, he, dear !!! I hope in China understand this!
  12. O. Bender
    O. Bender 19 January 2016 13: 42 New
    0
    As the saying goes, “Whistle!” However, the Kremlin’s hand has already reached the Nieders. laughing
  13. newcomer
    newcomer 19 January 2016 13: 43 New
    +4
    witch hunt 2 in european. Middle Ages returns to both. from. early europe. in the Middle Ages they killed all their unwanted ends under the label of blasphemers and Protestants. now everything undesirable is associated with Russia. Well, no life without a gun. Europe has become, already, the backyard of the Yankees.
  14. izya top
    izya top 19 January 2016 13: 44 New
    +4
    possible influence of Russia on Dutch public opinion
    Putin, what are you doing ... stop! laughing
    1. evil partisan
      evil partisan 19 January 2016 18: 58 New
      +1
      Quote: iza top
      Putin, what are you doing ... stop!
      Izzy. What do you Putin: tickles heels, or what? what Or are you chasing him instead of green devils ?? belay
      Sholom, hutspa life-giving! drinks
  15. Masya masya
    Masya masya 19 January 2016 13: 46 New
    10
    Everywhere and always ...
    1. Marconi41
      Marconi41 19 January 2016 16: 21 New
      0
      Quote: Masya Masya
      Everywhere and always ...

      And who else. He personally ran around the brothels and campaigned for pimps and prostitutes. As you can see, more than 50 percent scored.
  16. O. Bender
    O. Bender 19 January 2016 13: 47 New
    +2
    Personally, I’m purely up to the point when someone will come and how will Euroassociate..., Those of bioorganisms that have fallen into insanity
  17. Alexey X
    Alexey X 19 January 2016 13: 47 New
    +2
    The opinion of homosexuals and pedophiles do not take into account !!!
  18. 33 Watcher
    33 Watcher 19 January 2016 13: 48 New
    +2
    Like these "democrats", they do not like when the opinion of citizens does not coincide with their plans. And you collect them on the square and tanks, tanks ... Helps yes And then these citizens are completely unbelted ...
  19. vobels
    vobels 19 January 2016 13: 48 New
    +2
    ".. clarification of the question of (attention!) the possible influence of Russia on Dutch public opinion .." And on the Internet they will show footage where they come to every Dutch house from our embassy with earflaps, with a package of a grocery set (vodka, oil, pasta) and are forced to vote against the next Member of the geyropa. Circus freaks!
  20. Bulrumeb
    Bulrumeb 19 January 2016 13: 49 New
    0
    "suspect" that the Dutch influence on the European association of Ukraine is influenced by Russia

    That is, are we shoving them there?
  21. Alexanast
    Alexanast 19 January 2016 13: 50 New
    +8
    Again "Putin is everywhere!"
  22. pts-m
    pts-m 19 January 2016 13: 52 New
    +1
    about the parliamentarian in the Netherlands, they take their electorate for foolishness, as the deceased Gaidar spoke of the Russian electorate ... some kind of slow-witted electorate in Russia ... of course, there is no other way.
  23. Tra-ta-ta
    Tra-ta-ta 19 January 2016 14: 00 New
    0
    ..Discovered America ..!
    Russia now affects not only the population of Holland .. Throughout Europe, people are beginning to see clearly and are beginning to understand where their politicians are leading ...
  24. Privat
    Privat 19 January 2016 14: 01 New
    +3
    Member of the Dutch parliament Mr. Verhoeven shares information about his “concerns about Russia's possible influence on the views of ordinary Dutch people” and about a request to the country’s Foreign Ministry on Twitter.
    They seem to be starting something guess. laughing
  25. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 19 January 2016 14: 01 New
    +2
    Rzhu -nimoguuuuuuuuu!
  26. Chulman
    Chulman 19 January 2016 14: 09 New
    +3
    Comrade Nigerians! Urgently take the Ukrainians to your COMPANY! Fun and joy are guaranteed !!! lol
  27. Stinger
    Stinger 19 January 2016 14: 11 New
    +2
    They are afraid to cheapen. This is the main value. No, guys, Putin bought everyone. For your non-issued loans. That's when you associate with vigilantes, save pince-nez. You are welcome.
  28. bad
    bad 19 January 2016 14: 15 New
    0
    Dutch parliamentarians "suspect" that Dutch public opinion on Ukraine’s Euro-Association has an impact on Russia
    ... I also "suspect" that they are clearly smoking smoking .. no
  29. jovanni
    jovanni 19 January 2016 14: 16 New
    0
    Here is what puzzles: - And in what currency does Putin pay the Dutch? If in rubles, then this is difficult, in the light of recent events. This is so many rubles to be put that no Dutch pocket can stand it ...
  30. BOB044
    BOB044 19 January 2016 14: 20 New
    +1
    Like they all smoke weed, more than once a day. fool
  31. tehnokrat
    tehnokrat 19 January 2016 14: 24 New
    +1
    Quote: Alex X
    The opinion of homosexuals and pedophiles do not take into account !!!

    There will be no quorum!

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  33. tehnokrat
    tehnokrat 19 January 2016 14: 31 New
    0
    Quote: cniza
    it seems to me that the europolitics are all from House No. 6

    Nah, they're from D66, one floor up!
  34. Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 19 January 2016 14: 32 New
    0
    The Dutch public opinion is influenced by truthful information ...
  35. Mister22408
    Mister22408 19 January 2016 14: 37 New
    0
    Let the party "D-66" paintings of the Dutch, stolen by zapadentsev under the control of Nalyvaichenko, in the museum "Westfries" returns. At the same time, the visa-free entry with Ukraine is lobbying - in the Netherlands there are still many museums filled with paintings. There, information is quickly distributed among people (besides their parliament).
    http://vremya4e.com/allnews/23895-ukrainskie-nacionalisty-trebuyut-vykup-za-goll
    andskih-hudozhnikov.html
  36. Evgeni
    Evgeni 19 January 2016 14: 38 New
    0
    Quote: Denis Obukhov
    In this way, Europe will mock Ukrainians as much as they like. Now Poroshenko or Yatsenyuk will go to Holland to lick the ass of the local guys, and even possibly agree, but no one forbids after that to take the pose of Slovakia or Greece. So Ukrainians can lick everyone’s ass for years, and it seems everyone agrees, but there is no result. But frankly, I do not feel sorry for these ukrodebilov, they chose their fate, they like to grovel, this is their desire.

    the method already worked out in Turkey :)
  37. Riv
    Riv 19 January 2016 14: 44 New
    +2
    The point, of course, is different. Not everyone forgot the Boeing in Holland, and few believe that it was the militia that shot him down.
  38. Batia
    Batia 19 January 2016 15: 16 New
    0
    Citizens, friends, comrades! Yes, we all need to support the desire of dill for movement in the EU. The road is there for them! It is necessary for everyone in the EU to say that maydaras is a relative ... owls, sorry, gay, and "Tse Europe!"
  39. Russia
    Russia 19 January 2016 15: 44 New
    0
    In order not to be in a puddle, deputies of the Tulip country’s parliament from the D-66 party decided to contact the country's Foreign Ministry to clarify the issue of (attention!) Russia's possible influence on Dutch public opinion ...

    All right! In Tseyevrop, corrupt politicians want to ignore the opinion of rational fellow citizens by declaring them "zombied by Russian propaganda."
    He does not want the west of truth ...!
  40. Colonel
    Colonel 19 January 2016 17: 23 New
    0
    Does your field of vision any signsthat the upcoming referendum on the Association Agreement between Ukraine and the EU could in any way, including financially, influence Russia?

    Those. and there is no evidence, but as you wish. And if not, then they need to be done.
  41. GEORGE
    GEORGE 19 January 2016 17: 43 New
    0
    Quote: Ami du peuple
    Are there any signs in your field of vision that the upcoming referendum on the Association Agreement between Ukraine and the EU can be influenced in some way, including financially, by Russia?

    Naturally! These Russians ... They are everywhere!

    Stop smoking weed gentlemen Dutch ..... wassat laughing
  42. Flat5160
    Flat5160 19 January 2016 18: 00 New
    0
    Either Russia is pulled over the ears to the downed Boeing, then the occupation of Ukraine, now we are guilty of the Dutch assessment of Ukraine’s association with Europe. A good country is Holland and there is probably a lot of hemp there, guys smoke, smoke!
  43. wandlitz
    wandlitz 19 January 2016 18: 30 New
    +1
    The US Congress is implementing a program aimed at establishing "facts of Russian financing of European parties" .....
    Here it is, how ... And I think, why aren’t they raising my salary? Well, if so, then I agree ... the money went for a good cause ...
    Ha ha ha ha.
    1. gergi
      gergi 19 January 2016 22: 37 New
      0
      They don’t raise me either. Now I’m calm, I don’t need money, come on, Europe!
  44. KRIG55
    KRIG55 19 January 2016 18: 58 New
    0
    If Russia did not exist, it would have to be invented. Now, without mentioning Russia, not a single event in the world can do.
  45. Santjaga_Garka
    Santjaga_Garka 19 January 2016 20: 07 New
    0
    People are influenced by their intelligence, which allows them to open their eyes to lawlessness in Ukraine!

    But European politicians have a different concern - how do people have their opinions and what to do about it?
  46. gergi
    gergi 19 January 2016 22: 35 New
    0
    The sooner Ukraine is added to the geyrop, the faster the kirdyk will come to the geyrop. It is necessary to strengthen the army and navy at a pace. It is necessary to be ready when the europa flares up like a crow, set on fire from all ends at the same time.