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The fourth prototype of the Chinese Y-20 took off

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At the end of 2015, the fourth flight model of a heavy military transporter Y-20 first flew from the airfield of the Chinese enterprise Xi'an Aircraft Industrial Corporation (HAS) in Yanlani (Shaanxi Province), a blog bmpd with reference to the Chinese spotter.


The fourth flight prototype of the Chinese heavy military transport aircraft XAC Y-20 (tail number "785").

In January of the current year, the 5 th flight model was rolled out of the workshop (vehicle number 786). His tests will begin soon.

Launched fifth flight prototype of the Chinese heavy military transport aircraft XAC Y-20 (tail number "786") at the factory airfield of the Chinese aircraft building enterprise "Xi'an Aircraft Industrial Corporation" in Yanlani (left). On the right, the second flight prototype of the Y-20 aircraft (tail number "783") is visible.


Help bmpd: "The first prototype of the Y-20 aircraft (onboard number" 20001 ", then changed to" 781 ") made the first flight at the factory airfield HUS in Yanlani 26 January 2013 of the year. The second flight prototype of the Y-20 (onboard number "20003", then changed to "783") made the first flight to Yannani on December 14 2013 of the year, and the third flight prototype - on January 31 of the year. "
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  1. Vend
    Vend 19 January 2016 11: 11 New
    +2
    It looks menacing and solid.
    1. The comment was deleted.
      1. Mera joota
        Mera joota 19 January 2016 11: 19 New
        -10 qualifying.
        Quote: SS68SS
        Just like dad - IL-76

        Today seems to be not April 1 .... Do you take drugs?
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 19 January 2016 11: 59 New
          +6
          Quote: Mera Joota
          Today seems to be not April 1 ....
          1. Mera joota
            Mera joota 19 January 2016 12: 10 New
            +1
            There is clearly a problem with vision ...
    2. seti
      seti 19 January 2016 11: 35 New
      13
      Quote: Wend
      It looks menacing and solid.

      Unfortunately, the accumulated experience of Chinese technology looks better. This is alarming, but you need to understand that China is a self-sufficient country in this regard. What they do not release themselves can afford to buy .. and even worse to copy, but this is a matter of time.
      1. bulvas
        bulvas 19 January 2016 11: 38 New
        12
        Quote: seti
        What they do not release themselves can afford ..... copy even worse, but this is a matter of time.



        We started like that too, remember the Tu-4, Li-2

        Only now the Chinese have more samples to copy


        1. PROXOR
          PROXOR 19 January 2016 11: 46 New
          +1
          Quote: bulvas
          We started like that too, remember the Tu-4, Li-2


          So to speak. It’s not enough to copy, but to understand how and what is it different. And here the Chinese have BYAD.
          Let me remind you a long history. In 1934, the state commission traveled to the countries of the developed West to purchase advanced samples of armored vehicles. One of the purchases was the Vickers English Infantry Tank. Bought a tank, a license. We started to collect. They fell apart all the time. Engines strewed, carts broke. The armor was cracked. With the permission of the Government of the USSR, it was allowed to modify the tank. So it turned out T-26. Which, although it did not already meet the milestones of the time, but became much more reliable than the English Vickers.
          And all because we have the desire to fully understand and creative orientation. China has plagued its creative people.
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 19 January 2016 11: 53 New
            12
            Quote: PROXOR
            And here the Chinese have BYAD.

            Correctably, they quickly catch up.
            Quote: PROXOR
            China has plagued its creative people.

            "Our" Ministry of Education has succeeded more than the Chinese in producing creative people. We now also live by the developments of the USSR, and the new generation is too glamorous to invent and implement something. Almost all the so-called "new items" of the military-industrial complex are Soviet developments. request
            1. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 19 January 2016 12: 01 New
              -1
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              Correctably, they quickly catch up.

              you had to work or establish chinese technology
              1. Ingvar 72
                Ingvar 72 19 January 2016 13: 00 New
                +6
                Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                you had to work or establish chinese technology

                All electronics are now from China, not only assembly under a foreign brand (Lenovo as an example). Tools and gardening equipment MAC allister is also quite high quality, although some 5-7 years ago, the Chinese tool was a caricature of any other.
                I repeat - they catch up. hi
            2. VP
              VP 19 January 2016 12: 07 New
              0
              Yeah, and the conscience is still royal, in the know, og.
          2. guzik007
            guzik007 19 January 2016 12: 16 New
            +7
            China has plagued its creative people.
            -------------------------------------------
            From this place, please, in more detail. Facts in the studio. As far as I know, the Chinese send the best students to the most prestigious universities of the whole world and they, unlike ours, are back in a jamb to their historical homeland, to plow and replenish.
          3. Svoy_tovarish
            Svoy_tovarish 19 January 2016 12: 28 New
            +8
            It is inappropriate to cite the 34th year in this case. After the drain of the best brains in the 90s and technologies from Russia, the sale of our advanced developments, very thoughtful and close contacts of the PRC with Ukraine, China took great strides forward. If quality is worse somewhere, then we must not forget that China itself has sufficiently mastered all the lines of weapons production. He builds ships of all classes, submarines, aircraft, armored vehicles, air defense systems, missile weapons such as a unique anti-ship ballistic missile, etc. And look at the pace of production. Pay attention to the development of science and medicine in China, and all this finds application in the sun. For 10-15 years, it’s inappropriate to compare China with a poor quality copy machine. It's a delusion.
        2. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 19 January 2016 11: 59 New
          0
          Quote: bulvas
          We started like that too, remember the Tu-4, Li-2

          not quite so, we already had an excellent aviation school (OWN)
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          2. bulvas
            bulvas 19 January 2016 12: 16 New
            +2
            Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
            Quote: bulvas
            We started like that too, remember the Tu-4, Li-2

            not quite so, we already had an excellent aviation school (OWN)


            They had, but lagged behind in strategic and transport aviation.

            Didn’t Stalin order Tupolev to 100% copy the B-29, despite his flying school?

            Tupolev offered to build his own, but there was no time, it was necessary to catch up with the Americans in strategic aviation

            Interestingly, there was a PE-8, as if a successful aircraft, with a compressor, could climb to a height that German fighters could not reach.

            It seems that Molotov flew it to England over German territory.

            Why is it not developed?

            1. guzik007
              guzik007 19 January 2016 22: 41 New
              -1
              Interestingly, there was the PE-8, as if a successful plane, with a compressor,
              ---------------------------------------------------------------
              As far as I remember. It was DB-7
      2. Kite
        Kite 19 January 2016 12: 45 New
        -4
        Quote: seti
        .and copy worse, but it's a matter of time.

        ?
        - I am constantly surprised when I try to fix the jambs in Chinese-made products.
        Is the economic part of production so crushed so much that they make parts from unsuitable materials, and assemble them with both hands and feet on two conveyors at the same time ?!
        From the upper conveyor (where the eyes look behind the hands), the products come with a brand nameplate, from the bottom (the legs work on muscle memory) - without a nameplate.
        If they switch to high-quality assembly, the price will increase significantly. But will they be able to delve into the task and choose the appropriate materials and make parts of the correct form? One-time items have already saturated the world, or rather landfills. This can no longer continue.
        The airplane looks similar to ..... it’s natural, it’s easier to understand, but what it should have inside is copied without understanding.
    3. PROXOR
      PROXOR 19 January 2016 11: 42 New
      0
      Quote: Wend
      It looks menacing and solid.

      I hope you were joking. Tail with dvigateli from IL-76, Wing An, fuselage with muzzle Airbus. Some kind of hodgepodge.
      1. GRAY
        GRAY 19 January 2016 12: 12 New
        +1
        Quote: PROXOR
        . Tail with engine from IL-76,

        I found where the Chinese communized their tail. smile
  2. Neko75
    Neko75 19 January 2016 11: 12 New
    +5
    Well. Well done Chinese.
  3. Altona
    Altona 19 January 2016 11: 13 New
    +6
    Analogue of our IL-476? It looks like something visually, but not so beautiful ..
    1. gray smeet
      gray smeet 19 January 2016 11: 16 New
      +1
      in my opinion, the symbiosis of IL (upper part) and Antonov (lower). True, the tail is not ours.
      1. user1212
        user1212 19 January 2016 11: 18 New
        +1
        Quote: gray smeet
        in my opinion, the symbiosis of IL and Antonov.

        Children often look like parents laughing
      2. gjv
        gjv 19 January 2016 12: 42 New
        +1
        The device and the dimensions of the wing are very similar to the IL-76, although there was information that the Antonov Design Bureau specialists participated in the development of the wing. The fuselage, in particular the cargo compartment, is closer in design and size to the C-17 Globemaster. Symbiosis. Will the Chinese finish their nail - the WS-20 engine, and when? request
    2. Mera joota
      Mera joota 19 January 2016 11: 20 New
      +3
      Quote: Altona
      Analogue of our IL-476?

      Analog S-17 Galaxy.
      1. gray smeet
        gray smeet 19 January 2016 11: 25 New
        -1
        Quote: Mera Joota
        Quote: Altona
        Analogue of our IL-476?

        Analog S-17 Galaxy.


        really looks more like him. and his tail.
        1. gray smeet
          gray smeet 19 January 2016 11: 30 New
          +6
          photo C-17A Globemaster III for comparison
          1. Shilochnik
            Shilochnik 19 January 2016 11: 45 New
            -2
            One to one.
      2. Mera joota
        Mera joota 19 January 2016 11: 34 New
        +1
        Quote: Mera Joota
        Quote: Altona
        Analogue of our IL-476?

        Analog S-17 Galaxy.

        Damn, wrong, Globmaster of course ...
      3. Altona
        Altona 19 January 2016 11: 37 New
        +2
        Quote: Mera Joota
        Analog S-17 Galaxy.

        -----------------------
        In terms of carrying capacity of about 60-70 tons. I primarily look at the characteristics, and not the exterior ...
        1. Mera joota
          Mera joota 19 January 2016 11: 56 New
          0
          Quote: Altona
          In terms of carrying capacity of about 60-70 tons. I primarily look at the characteristics, and not the exterior ...

          Even in terms of characteristics in no way. Look at the parameters of the cargo compartment.
  4. gray smeet
    gray smeet 19 January 2016 11: 14 New
    -1
    Please show the specifications ....
    1. WUA 518
      WUA 518 19 January 2016 11: 28 New
      +8
      Quote: gray smeet
      Please show the specifications ....
      Modification Y-20
      Wingspan, m 45.00
      Aircraft Length, m 47.00
      Aircraft height, m ​​15.00
      Wing area, m2 310.00
      Weight, kg
      empty 100000 aircraft
      maximum takeoff 220000
      Domestic fuel, kg 18500
      Engine type 4 TRDDF Xian WS-18 (Soloviev D-30KP-2)
      Thrust, unformed, kN 4 x 122.0 (4 x 117.0)
      Maximum speed, km / h 918 (M = 0.75)
      Cruising speed, km / h 830
      Ferrying range, km 7800
      Practical range, km 4500
      Practical ceiling, m 13000
      Crew, people 3
      Payload: up to 66000 kg of cargo
      1. WUA 518
        WUA 518 19 January 2016 11: 33 New
        +7
        According to other sources: CHARACTERISTICS Maximum take-off weight of more than 200 tons Length 47 m, Wingspan 45 m, Height 15 m. Engines 4 х ТРДД D-30КП2 (perspective - WS-20) Maximum payload 66 t., Cruising flight speed 630 km / h Maximum range 4400 km
      2. Yak-3P
        Yak-3P 19 January 2016 11: 50 New
        -1
        only 3 people ??? and who on unloading-loading ??? doesn’t count chtol ??? well, okay ..
        1. WUA 518
          WUA 518 19 January 2016 12: 20 New
          +1
          Quote: Yak-3P
          only 3 people

          They don’t have a navigator in the carriage. Apparently, the flight engineer will combine the functions of an airborne transport equipment operator, or the crew will be increased later.
          1. FID
            FID 19 January 2016 12: 53 New
            0
            Quote: WUA 518
            They don’t have a navigator in the carriage. Apparently, the flight engineer will combine the functions of an operator for airborne transport equipment, or later the crew will increase

            Hello, Sasha! It is unlikely that the crew will increase ... Most likely, one of the landing troops will be the cargo master, I think so ....
            1. WUA 518
              WUA 518 19 January 2016 14: 05 New
              +1
              Quote: SSI
              Most likely, someone will be the cargomaster and

              Seryozha, welcome. Most likely there will be two pilots and an ADO operator on S-17.
      3. roman_pilot
        roman_pilot 19 January 2016 22: 33 New
        0
        Some kind of nonsense has been written about fuel. Where else is 35500 kg?
  5. Mikhail Krapivin
    Mikhail Krapivin 19 January 2016 11: 15 New
    0
    And flew in the direction of two American aircraft carriers ...;) But nothing serious such a plane, heavy.
  6. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 19 January 2016 11: 21 New
    0
    Our engines, D-30, carrying capacity 66 tons, maximum takeoff 220 tons. Well, straight 476. Again, the Chinese copier stuck ...
    1. Mera joota
      Mera joota 19 January 2016 11: 52 New
      +2
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Well, straight 476. Again, the Chinese copier stuck ...

      Probably only a half-blind person can find common ground between the Il-476 and the Y-20, the fact that it is a high-wing aircraft and with four engines does not mean that "Well, straight 476". The Y-20 was created as an analogue of the C-17, and not the Il-476. The S-17 is capable of transferring the Patriot air defense system from the USA to Turkey, on the Il-476 it is impossible to transfer the S-300 (not to mention the S-400) from Russia to Syria, you need to turn over by sea. The same goes for tanks and helicopters. This is the kind of plane the Chinese want.
      1. KVIRTU
        KVIRTU 19 January 2016 13: 51 New
        +3
        Exactly S-400 is impossible on the IL-476 (more precisely,
        IL-76MD-90A)?
        "The complex was deployed by military transport aircraft from the Moscow Region during the day, a representative of the Russian Aerospace Forces said. "
      2. KVIRTU
        KVIRTU 19 January 2016 14: 05 New
        +1
        I beg your pardon, I didn’t understand right away: they were transported by "Ruslans".
        1. Mera joota
          Mera joota 19 January 2016 14: 13 New
          +1
          Quote: KVIRTU
          I beg your pardon, I didn’t understand right away: they were transported by "Ruslans".

          The trouble with the domestic BTA is the lack of a modern transport aircraft, the An-124 which can quickly transfer such cargoes as the S-400, Armata, Msta and others. The large size will die over time due to the impossibility of timely service, well, the resource is not eternal. But there is nothing to replace. We will buy from the Chinese Y-20 ...
          1. WUA 518
            WUA 518 19 January 2016 14: 39 New
            +4
            Quote: Mera Joota
            We will buy from the Chinese Y-20 ...
            January 19, AEX.RU - As part of the state contract, Aviastar-SP JSC will carry out modernization of three An-124 aircraft: one aircraft in 2016, two aircraft in 2017. This was reported by the press service of the enterprise.

            "The program for the restoration of the aircraft fleet includes revisions according to bulletins, modernization of individual elements of the aircraft in order to maintain and improve technical characteristics, increase reliability, increase the service life of the aircraft. As a result, An-124 aircraft will be modified into the An-124-100 version. Also JSC "Aviastar-SP" provides maintenance of aircraft of the An-124 family. According to the state contract, six aircraft will be delivered to the production area of ​​the enterprise in 2016. Works on bulletins will be performed at Aviastar, operational damage to Ruslanov will be repaired, "Aviastar said. ". Modernization of An-124 into a standard design of An-124-100

            The main types of work performed during the modernization of the An-124-100 aircraft from the base An-124:

            installation of the upgraded A820M complex with the A 821M air-blast system, which provides flights in the PRNAV area navigation system;
            installation of a modernized radar station A822-10M;
            installation on the dashboard of pilots' instruments and at the workplace of the navigator of multifunctional color LCD indicators of MFIs;
            additional installation of receivers for GPS-GLONASS satellite navigation systems;
            installation of the TCAS-2000 collision avoidance system for aircraft in air with the S mode transponder, not lower than level IV;
            installation of an early warning system for collisions with the ground in the direction of flight TTA-12;
            installation of an automatic portable emergency beacon ARM-406P and emergency rescue radio beacon ARM-406AS1;
            installation of the upgraded BASK-124-01 system;
            installation of a modernized braking system for the BUPT-124 aircraft with reinforced wheels on the main landing gear.
            installation of oxygen equipment BKO-5K.
            Modernization of the An-124-100 to the standard design of the An-124-100-150

            An An-124-100-150 type aircraft with a maximum commercial load of 150 tons and an increased take-off weight of 402 tons, which makes it possible to further increase the technical and technical characteristics of the aircraft.
      3. Altona
        Altona 19 January 2016 15: 16 New
        0
        Quote: Mera Joota
        Probably only a half-blind can find a common between the IL-476 and Y-20,

        ------------------------------------
        http://ru-aviation.livejournal.com/3145593.html

        They searched ...
  7. Primus pilus
    Primus pilus 19 January 2016 11: 23 New
    +1
    And whose engine is it on?
    1. Mera joota
      Mera joota 19 January 2016 11: 39 New
      +4
      Quote: Primus Pilus
      And whose engine is it on?

      Our D-30. The Chinese have not yet drank their own files, and on the D-30 he is unlikely to pull out his declared TTX.
  8. Mihalich17
    Mihalich17 19 January 2016 11: 23 New
    +1
    This article title is mysterious; type
    “The first three Y-20 prototypes failed to take off!
    But the fourth - finally smooog! ")))
  9. doework
    doework 19 January 2016 11: 37 New
    +3
    The Chinese stick just like tanks .. Well done! Over time, the "school" will appear ...
  10. Yak-3P
    Yak-3P 19 January 2016 11: 46 New
    -1
    in the tail it looks like a tank .. in range it should be more than classmates .. all kind of pout ..
    1. Mera joota
      Mera joota 19 January 2016 11: 59 New
      +1
      Quote: Yak-3P
      all kind of pout ..

      It is not inflated, but wide-bodied so that the maximum range of goods fits.
      1. Yak-3P
        Yak-3P 19 January 2016 12: 13 New
        -1
        yeah .. you are wide fuselage .. in the know .. current here these "DUPLICATIONS" can not be anything except tanks or niches for equipment .. let's see how the version of the scout-mushroom-avax will look like
        1. gjv
          gjv 19 January 2016 12: 54 New
          +2
          Quote: Yak-3P
          current these "DUPLICATIONS" cannot be anything other than tanks or niches for equipment

          Compartments of the main legs of the chassis and equipment niches - on the one hand (on the right) an auxiliary power unit, on the other hand an air radiator and a receiving device for the fuel refueling system in flight.
    2. WUA 518
      WUA 518 19 January 2016 12: 28 New
      +3
      [/ Center]
      Quote: Yak-3P
      in the tail it looks like a tank

      At the tail are the ramp and cargo compartment doors. And there are enough caisson tanks in the consoles. I'm not talking about centering.
  11. pts-m
    pts-m 19 January 2016 11: 49 New
    -1
    Chinese “chicks” gain experience. As they gain, they will request to fly to develop “disputed” territories in the north of the country and territories “adjacent” to them.
  12. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 19 January 2016 12: 15 New
    +5
    Pieces of 20 such "flight prototypes"
    let out and you can throw an entire army through the air smile
    1. WUA 518
      WUA 518 19 January 2016 12: 44 New
      +1
      Quote: voyaka uh
      an army of air

      Well, yes, the Gambia or Haiti, and you’ll rivet the planes on the Chinese laughing
    2. gjv
      gjv 19 January 2016 13: 07 New
      +1
      Quote: voyaka uh
      Pieces of 20 such "flight prototypes" will be released and an entire army can be airlifted

      There are 80-85 thousand troops in the Chinese army (without tattoos, not snoring, not fat bully ) This 20 prototypes will need to be done on 40 flights.
  13. Mercenary
    Mercenary 19 January 2016 12: 36 New
    +2
    Maybe our government in China for half a year. Let them learn how to WORK for their country! angry
  14. andrereu74
    andrereu74 19 January 2016 12: 48 New
    +2
    Quote: PROXOR
    We started like that too

    what is stopping now?
  15. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 19 January 2016 12: 52 New
    +2
    While you are straining to argue what it looks like and what it doesn’t look like, the Chinese are quietly circling their brainchild. No matter what it looks like, it is important that there are excellent performance characteristics and further benefits.
  16. polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 19 January 2016 13: 01 New
    -2
    Soon we will begin to learn how to make airplanes from the Chinese, and that we practically remained at the helm of Poghosyan, we heated up Serdyukov by helicopters - they will again cut the budget, and give screwdriver assemblies as their own.
  17. borys
    borys 19 January 2016 13: 22 New
    +2
    In the late 90s and early 2000s, negotiations were held on deliveries to China.
    batch of aircraft IL-76 and IL-78. Then TAPOiCh was still alive and the contract
    was doable. Incidentally, engines and electro-radio equipment are in price
    aircraft make up more than half. So the corresponding Russian
    enterprises could make serious money. And the relationship between the Ros-
    this and Uzbekistan would be better. But it did not work out. About the reasons for this
    I can’t judge nonsense, because there is not enough information. But if
    the contract has developed, China would still buy these aircraft.
  18. Papapg
    Papapg 19 January 2016 14: 07 New
    -1
    Quote: Mera Joota
    There is clearly a problem with vision ...

    And the planes are all alike, these are the ones that fly.