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Media: In the Russian Federation is preparing a proposal for the supply of arms to Saudi Arabia

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Russia will prepare a package of offers for the next visit of the King of Saudi Arabia weapons and military equipment, reports Look With reference to the newspaper Kommersant.




According to the publication, the proposal, estimated at $ 10 billion, includes “supplies aviation equipment and ammunition, as well as several types of air defense systems of various ranges. "

This year, Russia "will focus on arms supplies to countries in the Asia-Pacific region, such as Indonesia and Malaysia, as well as to solvent African countries, in particular, Angola and Uganda," the newspaper writes, citing an informed source.

According to the interlocutor, “even in the event of failure in some negotiations, the fall in weapon export performance in 2016 is lower than 14-15, billions of dollars are not expected”.

At the end of last year, a senior official of the Federal Service for Military-Technical Cooperation (FS MTC) told reporters that "the plan for the 2015 year has been fulfilled, military products worth 15,2 billion have already been shipped." He stressed that "the export plan for the next year provides for the same amount - more than 15 billion dollars."

“The main goal for the next year is to keep the second place (after the USA) in the world in arms exports,” said the representative of the Federal Customs Service.

“At the end of this year, the FSB PTS has a portfolio of defense export orders worth more than 55 billions of dollars. This is the record of the last decade, ”he added.
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  1. Electrical
    Electrical 18 January 2016 19: 40
    20
    send poached, so that if you want to shoot, the "self-destruction" function is turned on
    1. seti
      seti 18 January 2016 19: 42
      38
      Of course I understand that money is very, very necessary, and even in currency, but to arm an inveterate enemy? Although perhaps it is better to let them buy from us than from staff. And perhaps this is another scam from the Saudis in order to promise from three boxes but not fulfill their part of the deal.
      1. just exp
        just exp 18 January 2016 19: 46
        28
        This horseradish epic already knows how old it is, everyone promises something to each other, while both sides know that nothing will happen.
        already how many times it was, a promise to buy a lot of lard, nothing was done except promises, ours know this, but you can play in public.
        1. Baikonur
          Baikonur 18 January 2016 19: 47
          +9
          Maybe soon the US will sell weapons !? belay
          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana 18 January 2016 20: 06
            22
            Interesting things!
            Saudi Arabia supplies weapons to Daesh militants and fights against Syria and Iraq! An armed Saudi confrontation with Iran is also possible.
            In the Soviet Union, even a conversation would NOT go about such a deal with the Saudis! This would be regarded as a betrayal of the country's national security and the loss of allies in the BV.
            And what else are they going to buy there? Saudi Arabia has a lot of money - they only buy first-class military equipment.
            It's like selling the Russian corpse to the Saudis. If they still give money ahead!
            It looks like a mafia. The seller received the money, he was immediately killed - the buyer took the money back after killing the seller! Some kind of mafia deal!
            1. Pimply
              Pimply 18 January 2016 20: 28
              +8
              Quote: Tatiana
              Saudi Arabia supplies weapons to Daesh militants and fights against Syria and Iraq! An armed Saudi confrontation with Iran is also possible.

              ISIS - no. To radical Sunni groups, yes. And Iran for Russia is an ally rather controversial and more forced
              Quote: Tatiana
              In the Soviet Union, even a conversation would NOT go about such a deal with the Saudis! This would be regarded as a betrayal of the country's national security and the loss of allies in the BV

              Even as if walking. The Soviet Union was a fairly flexible state. If anything, in Iran the USSR was called the Small Satan.
              1. 44 World
                44 World 18 January 2016 20: 37
                0
                Lord! do not forget, we do not live in the 90s and not in Ukraine, now we are selling weapons, if only nobody will sell ...
                1. Tatyana
                  Tatyana 18 January 2016 21: 03
                  +1
                  It should be noted that the United States entered the 1-th place in arms sales, according to the Americans themselves, solely due to the armed conflict in the Middle East. RF holds 2 place. There will be no conflict in the BV - where to put this weapon? The price of it will quickly fall.
                  And then, weapons, you won’t chew bread, you don’t put them on you like clothes, it is not housing either. It is necessary and other industries n / x. in Russia to raise and fill the state budget with this. What kind of economy in the country is this - an oil “needle” and weapons ?!
                  1. Dart2027
                    Dart2027 18 January 2016 22: 36
                    +9
                    Quote: Tatiana
                    The price of it will quickly fall.

                    The whole history of mankind is one continuous fight, so weapons will always be in value.
                  2. avia1991
                    avia1991 19 January 2016 00: 59
                    +4
                    Quote: Tatiana
                    It is necessary and other industries n / x. in Russia to raise and fill the state budget with this.

                    It’s necessary, Tatyana, it’s necessary ... that’s the military-industrial complex is doing this. You know: the most advanced technologies, the most advanced materials and equipment - all THERE!
                    And from there it slowly enters the "civil" sectors. And thanks to the state order, at the very least, employment remains in those industries that serve the defense industry without entering the military-industrial complex. And it has been like this all my life, and now it is unlikely to change .. well, not tomorrow - that's for sure! wink
                    1. Tatyana
                      Tatyana 19 January 2016 03: 13
                      +2
                      avia1991
                      It’s necessary, Tatyana, it’s necessary ... that’s the military-industrial complex is doing this. You know: the most advanced technologies, the most advanced materials and equipment - all THERE!
                      And from there it slowly enters the "civilian" sectors
                      Very slowly, these new technologies and materials enter civilian sectors. Usually with designers. I once applied the technology of military-industrial complex in the construction of equipment in light industry and used the material that is usually used in aircraft instrument manufacturing. They had a scheduled preventive repair every 4 of the day, and I did what happened after 6 of the months. 5 units and 2 mechanics worked. The mechanics were completely removed from this site and transferred to another site. And there are many such cases, but with the experience of designing in the military-industrial complex, I was only one person in the design bureau of 22.
                      In addition, 2000 people worked at the enterprise. Now he is gone. It has long been closed. And such closed enterprises are darkness.
                    2. bald
                      bald 19 January 2016 04: 55
                      +3
                      All my life it hasn’t been like this: you are in the defense complex with the latest developments. But if you yourself need some kind of technology (moreover, not related to state secrets), you’ll get what the hell. And now I think everything remains the same.
                      1. avia1991
                        avia1991 19 January 2016 16: 54
                        +1
                        Quote: bald
                        All my life has not been like that

                        All my life it was just SO.
                        The defense complex received (and trained, mind you!) The best workers, closed research institutes - the best specialists, the most valuable intelligence on the profile, and high-quality funding. "Citizen", as such, by itself could give little to the military-industrial complex, except for economic and power supply.
                        And there is nothing strange or unfair in this - it MUST BE! Another question: how to make cooperation between the defense industry complex and the "civilian economy" more mutually beneficial? .. For a start, I would transfer RUSNANO and Skolkovo under the command of the Ministry of Defense wassat - I think Shoigu and Chubais will quickly figure it out! And then introduce the rule: the salary is good - but only for a period of three months. And if there are no real results, then put the money back and get a kick in the ass! .. I doubt that the sly .. opey freeloaders on such conditions will stay even for a couple of days! But for those who remain, it is already possible to create "comfort".
              2. avia1991
                avia1991 19 January 2016 00: 53
                +3
                Quote: Pimply
                ISIS - no. To radical Sunni groups - yes

                Can you explain how big the difference is? And how fundamental?
                Cunningly ... nasty radicals now can call themselves at least what they call themselves, and are even ready to betray yesterday's "colleagues", posing as a "constructive Syrian opposition." What - does the essence change? wassat
                Quote: Pimply
                Even as if he were walking. The Soviet Union was a fairly flexible state.

                But not to that extent. In the leadership of the USSR there were not only "old senile people", but also very smart and far-sighted people! Remember Gromyko, Ustinov, Andropov, for example? And oh, how they calculated the current political situation! .. lol Yes, and an important point: Saudi Arabia began to grow rich not so long ago thanks to oil: in the 60s and in the beginning of the 70s they were a rather poor state, not very capable of acquiring modern weapons! The situation began to change closer to the 80s, when the United States took them under the wing, providing equipment for oil production, and military protection from Iran. And in this regard, the more so, the USSR would not sell arms to them! hi
                1. Antanas
                  Antanas 19 January 2016 01: 19
                  0
                  Ustinov, far-sighted? Largely thanks to his pressure, the Afghan war was launched, which greatly accelerated the collapse of the USSR. Brezhnev himself did not want this and was inclined to not intervene directly in the Afghan mess.
                  1. avia1991
                    avia1991 19 January 2016 16: 39
                    +1
                    Quote: Antanas
                    Ustinov, visionary? Largely thanks to his pressure, the Afghan war was launched

                    It is very convenient to criticize someone else's History from the "chosen lands" - especially if you really want to.
                    What sources did you study the history of the USSR, dear? Or maybe you were given access to transcripts of meetings of the Presidium of the CPSU Central Committee? laughing
                    As far as Afghanistan is concerned, let me tell you that the war there started with the intervention of the CIA. At first, the Soviet army was more engaged in construction and humanitarian aid, as well as protecting, for the most part, infrastructure facilities. The turning point came when Al Qaeda was created.
                    However, for all that, thanks to the intervention of the USSR, the traffic of Afghan drugs practically stopped for ten years - this is one of the positive aspects. And besides, we ensured the absence in the "soft underbelly" of American bases, which the White House dreamed of - but "did not have enough time."
                    I understand, you are offended for your "friends" because of the Puddle .. do not remember how many times the supply of drugs increased during the presence of amerskoy contingent?
            2. Yarik
              Yarik 18 January 2016 20: 49
              +6
              Some grandmothers on your mind. Now, immediately, and there is at least a flood. Questions at least some prospects for BV are not considered? Or will the market regulate them too? sad
              1. Vadim237
                Vadim237 18 January 2016 21: 05
                +2
                This is an article with the sale of weapons of Saudi Arabia and the amount of 10 15 already fourth time slips, for a year and a half - another information noodles.
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            3. Blondy
              Blondy 18 January 2016 21: 00
              +3
              Recall that two allies - and no more, and everything else - these are interests.
            4. BaLaLaykin
              BaLaLaykin 18 January 2016 22: 26
              -4
              a lover of relaxation in Turkey talks about politics, funny
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          3. Monos
            Monos 18 January 2016 20: 28
            +5
            Quote: Baikonur
            Maybe soon the US will sell weapons !? belay


            Why are you so worried? Even if they buy, they still need to learn how to fight. Well this is not a camel!

            And so, you look, and Yemen will get something in the form of trophies. Or Iran.
          4. Mavrikiy
            Mavrikiy 18 January 2016 21: 26
            +1
            Do not rush. The United States has already launched the production of Kalash and RPG. Maybe when Sushki will do.
            And we will go further.
          5. tol100v
            tol100v 18 January 2016 21: 40
            +4
            Quote: Baikonur
            Maybe soon the US will sell weapons !?

            And what, RD-180 is not a WEAPON? If THEY flew to the moon, then where are their powerful engines ??? Or did they, following our example of conversion, converted them into Mac "Donalds' ovens?
            1. Antanas
              Antanas 19 January 2016 01: 27
              +1
              Their Saturns were very expensive, but they know how to count money. If there is no opportunity to buy Russian ones, they will fly on their own, wherever they go, they have analogs.
          6. dmi.pris
            dmi.pris 18 January 2016 21: 48
            0
            They’ll decide to shoot. We’ll send parabellum. Nothing personal only business


            Quote: Baikonur
            Maybe soon the US will sell weapons !? belay

            Quote: Baikonur
            Maybe soon the US will sell weapons !? belay
          7. dmi.pris
            dmi.pris 18 January 2016 21: 48
            -1
            They’ll decide to shoot. We’ll send parabellum. Nothing personal only business


            Quote: Baikonur
            Maybe soon the US will sell weapons !? belay

            Quote: Baikonur
            Maybe soon the US will sell weapons !? belay
          8. Ivan Ivanovich
            Ivan Ivanovich 18 January 2016 22: 05
            0
            You can sell them only with the condition that their defense will be completely bent ...
          9. Theline
            Theline 18 January 2016 22: 06
            +2
            You are not selling. The decision is made by the government. And if it sees a profit in this, it will sell it to anyone, because each state thinks of benefits for itself.
          10. gergi
            gergi 18 January 2016 22: 20
            +1
            Why not?
          11. vkfriendly
            vkfriendly 19 January 2016 03: 31
            +1
            You can also jackals, only with all kinds of bookmarks if it concerns air defense. That would start at the right moment to shoot wink
          12. bald
            bald 19 January 2016 04: 47
            0
            Of course! -Most money doesn’t smell, is it? They, poor ones, are now forced to secretly buy him under someone else’s roof, poke his bandits of all stripes, and then only indicate: here are the traces of that son of a bitch who armed them and sent them! It is necessary to facilitate their task. By the way, the Saudis strictly repeat this scenario for the teacher.
          13. LEX SU
            LEX SU 19 January 2016 10: 34
            0
            Instead of Bradley - let BTR82 buy =)
        2. Inok10
          Inok10 18 January 2016 21: 12
          +5
          Quote: just explo
          This horseradish epic already knows how old it is, everyone promises something to each other, while both sides know that nothing will happen.

          .. absolutely right .. hi .. and, equally .. on the Kommersant referred to by the newspaper Vzglyad .. oh, a miracle of miracles .. there is no such article .. Oops .. laughing .. well, you guys and give .. information needs to be checked !!! .. especially from sources such as RBC and Kommersant .. you still start believing in Moscow’s Echo in word and Voice of America in addition to the Russian Air Force service .. I wallow with YOU like small children in a sandbox .. laughing
          1. Monos
            Monos 19 January 2016 02: 39
            +4
            .. you still begin to believe the Echo of Moscow by word and Voice of America in addition to the Russian Air Force service ..


            Duc, no one is talking about trusting the "source". Simple - an informational reason to talk about a given topic. hi
        3. tol100v
          tol100v 18 January 2016 21: 30
          0
          Quote: just explo
          , all promise something to each other, while both sides know that nothing will happen.

          Think back to the Protocol of Intent in the early 90s of business! Neither One nor the Other wanted to take risks, but they carried on a stormy business activity that ate up everything they had earned before!
        4. fif21
          fif21 18 January 2016 21: 31
          +2
          Quote: just explo
          already how many times it was, the promise to buy a lot of lard, nothing but promises was made

          They just don't promise anything. Russia must do something in their interests, but then they will buy something from us. And Russia is not going to do anything in their interests, and they are not purchasing anything. What's not clear?! hi They are trained by amerovskoy instructors to handle amerovskoy weapons, so they do not need our weapons. Most likely they will buy weapons in the interests of a third party, the supply of weapons to which from the Russian Federation is impossible. I am sure that if the deal goes through, it will pass under the stamp "Ss" "Gaidarovskif Forum" needs to be fed, and they turn up their faces from the ruble as if they were a bum. hi
        5. Tra-ta-ta
          Tra-ta-ta 18 January 2016 22: 20
          0
          this hell already knows how old ..
          Something uncertain and ingratiating here looks at the photo of our GDP (and with Qatar too) ..
          Maybe it’s necessary ..? sad
        6. Aleksander
          Aleksander 18 January 2016 22: 49
          +1
          Quote: just explo
          while both sides know that nothing will happen. already how many times have been


          Why so? ZRPK short-range "Shell-S1" developed by the Tula Instrument Design Bureau commissioned by the United Arab Emirates
        7. ty60
          ty60 19 January 2016 01: 35
          +2
          In Soviet times, there was a joke - in an elderly couple, the wife asks her husband, "What is a counter plan? Mash, I undertake to fuck you at night once. You take a counter plan, surrender to me twice. Moreover, we both know that more than one will fail!
        8. ty60
          ty60 19 January 2016 01: 41
          0
          I wrote a comment, the moderator did not understand and called the flood. Let him enjoy the opportunity to decide hi
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      3. akshor
        akshor 18 January 2016 19: 48
        0
        The enemy spends money, devastating foreign exchange reserves. Russia earns currency.
        1. cheap trick
          cheap trick 18 January 2016 19: 51
          +4
          This weapon, by the way, spilled blood all over Syria! And currency can be obtained from China and India, for example! they do not shoot down passenger and military aircraft of Russia!
        2. fif21
          fif21 18 January 2016 21: 38
          +1
          Quote: akshor
          Russia earns currency

          Who does she earn it for? We have a surplus of the trade balance with the west, and the dollar is already reaching 90 rubles. The speed at which Russian "sharks of capitalism" consume currency can be compared to the speed of a fighter jet. wassat
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      4. kil 31
        kil 31 18 January 2016 19: 56
        +6
        Quote: seti
        Of course I understand that money is very, very necessary, and even in currency, but to arm an inveterate enemy? Although perhaps it is better to let them buy from us than from staff. And perhaps this is another scam from the Saudis in order to promise from three boxes but not fulfill their part of the deal.

        It is not that simple. "Pecheneg" 17-20 This is Yemen Houthis.
      5. INVESTOR
        INVESTOR 18 January 2016 20: 52
        +7
        American specialists with screwdrivers are already sitting and waiting for the cargo to arrive.
      6. vladimir_krm
        vladimir_krm 18 January 2016 21: 17
        +7
        Well, you won’t please everyone: oil trade is bad, high technology trade is bad again. And doctors and teachers what to contain?

        Once in the 70s, the USSR was selling the latest MiG-23s to China at that time. Relations with China were bad: the conflict on Damansky, the conflict in Kazakhstan ... I ask the teacher at the military commissar: how so? He replied that it would be better for the Chinese to have friends until the last MiG-23 screw than those unfamiliar to us in the F-16 battles. Is logical.

        Especially now, when almost any weapon can be disabled remotely. And money is desperately needed for a war in the same Syria, for example. And many more where. Oil falls to zero, the budget is scarce. Is there another way? Are you ready to put your teeth on the shelf?
        1. Odysseus
          Odysseus 18 January 2016 21: 42
          0
          Quote: vladimir_krm

          Once in the 70s, the USSR was selling the latest MiG-23s to China at that time. Relations with China were bad: the conflict on Damansky, the conflict in Kazakhstan ... I ask the teacher at the military commissar: how so? He replied that it would be better for the Chinese to have friends until the last MiG-23 screw than those unfamiliar to us in the F-16 battles. Is logical.

          A beautiful story. It is a pity wrong. The USSR never sold Mig-23 to China. Something, dear, you have mixed up.
          As for the deal with CA, it is too early to judge, you need to know what they want to buy from us, and how much they really want to do it.
          1. vladimir_krm
            vladimir_krm 19 January 2016 11: 34
            0
            Yes, in the end, they did not bargain, as now. The Chinese bought several MiG-23s in other countries, tried to copy, but problems with the engine and the wing turning unit did not allow to launch it in series. But negotiations were ongoing, there was a message in Izvestia.
      7. Koshak
        Koshak 18 January 2016 21: 33
        0
        Quote: seti
        And perhaps this is another scam from the Saudis in order to promise from three boxes but not fulfill their part of the transaction.

        I think that the Saudis, like kaklov, will not work. Experience teaches: "Money in the morning - chairs in the evening." I'm not sure that Russia will step on the same rake.
      8. APASUS
        APASUS 18 January 2016 21: 38
        +1
        Quote: seti
        Of course I understand that money is very, very necessary, and even in currency, but to arm an inveterate enemy? Although perhaps it is better to let them buy from us than from staff. And perhaps this is another scam from the Saudis in order to promise from three boxes but not fulfill their part of the deal.

        1 This is already 3 times in my opinion that at a high level, the SA is going to buy weapons from us and slowly everything goes down to 0.
        2 I doubt that the SA needs this weapon because they use the American one. Is this an option with reselling to allies, transferring to controlled groups or just an element of a bribe to Russia - only for what?
      9. gergi
        gergi 18 January 2016 22: 19
        +2
        Selling our weapons, we make them dependent on us. Ammunition, technical support, staff training, modernization. The more they buy, the greater the dependence.
      10. Tusv
        Tusv 18 January 2016 23: 40
        +5
        Quote: seti
        but arm an inveterate enemy? Although perhaps it is better to let them buy from us than from staff.

        Nothing is eternal under the Moon. Yesterday's enemy will be the best friend, and the best friend will betray. Yesterday's enemy is Chechnya, and now Kadyrov needs to be restrained so that the Bosnos are not shredded for the Russian Federation by measure :) The traitors are darkness.
        There are common points. Mecca and Medina for Muslims have not been canceled
      11. midivan
        midivan 19 January 2016 04: 43
        +3
        Quote: seti
        Of course I understand that money is very, very necessary, and even in currency, but to arm an inveterate enemy? Although perhaps it is better to let them buy from us than from staff. And perhaps this is another scam from the Saudis in order to promise from three boxes but not fulfill their part of the deal.

        if even a divorce, then it can play in Iran, and they seem to be announcing on the S-400 already, a good client smile and if you instruct 300 in the countries of the Asia-Pacific region, such as Indonesia and Malaysia, as well as in solvent countries of Africa, in particular, Angola and Uganda, you’ll already look at the world’s gendarme despondency laughing and at the expense of the enemy to arm so why do we EW then ??? I don’t think that our rocket will fly to Su-24 in the same way, even if it sends its purebred Saudi laughing
      12. oblako
        oblako 19 January 2016 05: 43
        -1
        Fucking capitalism is the goal of profit. Sell ​​SA, they sponsor ISIS. What are we striving for? Vague doubts torment me. It’s clear that we’ll tie it to ourselves for some time ... But, by selling arms to other countries, you can’t do better for the life of your people, and even increase the risks ... you need to change the world’s vision and the whole system ...
      13. Evgeniy667b
        Evgeniy667b 19 January 2016 07: 00
        -1
        Already our leaders have survived from the mind! So they get to the point that ISIS will sell anti-aircraft weapons. Money is the most important thing! May all of them burn in hell with these creatures!
    2. vlad66
      vlad66 18 January 2016 19: 45
      21
      Our allies in the Iran and Syria region will be especially pleased. Well, money doesn’t smell. request
      1. bulvas
        bulvas 18 January 2016 19: 48
        -1
        Quote: vlad66
        Our allies in the Iran and Syria region will be especially pleased. Well, money doesn’t smell. request



        “The main goal for the next year is to keep the second place (after the USA) in the world in arms exports,” said the representative of the Federal Customs Service.



        Hey, maybe it was all conceived?
        Money comes first

        1. vlad66
          vlad66 18 January 2016 19: 53
          15
          Quote: bulvas
          Hey, maybe it was all conceived?

          I don’t know what they thought at the top? But what sensations from such buyers are not good, Stalin did not sell weapons to Hitler.
          1. Pilat2009
            Pilat2009 18 January 2016 20: 30
            -4
            Quote: vlad66
            Stalin did not sell weapons to Hitler

            But Hitler was selling to Stalin. The Germans simply didn’t very much need our weapons.
            1. Aleksey_K
              Aleksey_K 18 January 2016 20: 39
              +8
              Quote: Pilat2009
              Quote: vlad66
              Stalin did not sell weapons to Hitler

              But Hitler was selling to Stalin. The Germans simply didn’t very much need our weapons.

              But the Germans willingly used our anti-tank guns and serviceable tanks, too, captured during the offensive.
              1. Yarik
                Yarik 18 January 2016 20: 56
                0
                And also SVT, PPSh, for example.
              2. Pilat2009
                Pilat2009 18 January 2016 21: 03
                -2
                Quote: Алексей_К
                But the Germans willingly used our anti-tank guns and serviceable tanks, too, captured during the offensive.

                You know a little something else.
                I do not want to say that our weapons were worse. But the samples of air and naval weapons in the 30-40s in Germany were better
            2. V.ic
              V.ic 18 January 2016 20: 43
              +5
              Quote: Pilat2009
              But Hitler was selling to Stalin.

              Partaigenoss, and how many divisions Comrade Stalin equipped with German weapons? Retake EG, pliz ...
              1. Pilat2009
                Pilat2009 18 January 2016 21: 07
                +4
                Quote: V.ic
                Quote: Pilat2009
                But Hitler was selling to Stalin.

                Partaigenoss, and how many divisions Comrade Stalin equipped with German weapons? Retake EG, pliz ...

                Hey, joker, I'm not your fellow NSDAP
                Look better how many ships were bought
                1. V.ic
                  V.ic 18 January 2016 22: 03
                  0
                  Quote: Pilat2009
                  Hey, joker, I'm not your fellow NSDAP

                  Do not "throw pontu"genosse Pilat!
                  Quote: Pilat2009
                  Look better how many ships were bought

                  And the combat readiness of the RKKF jumped to an unattainable height?
          2. forester
            forester 18 January 2016 20: 35
            +5
            Quote: vlad66
            Quote: bulvas
            Hey, maybe it was all conceived?

            I don’t know what they thought at the top? But what sensations from such buyers are not good, Stalin did not sell weapons to Hitler.

            Paulus Guderian tank tactics studied in the USSR chassis for tanks under the guise of tractor assembled with us in exchange for machine tools and technologies Food was supplied and the strike on us was scheduled for 4 a.m. not exactly by accident, namely when the last train with grain from the USSR to Germany crossed the border
            1. bulvas
              bulvas 18 January 2016 21: 20
              0
              Quote: forester

              Paulus Guderian tank tactics studied in the USSR chassis for tanks under the guise of tractor assembled with us in exchange for machine tools and technologies Food was supplied and the strike on us was scheduled for 4 a.m. not exactly by accident, namely when the last train with grain from the USSR to Germany crossed the border


              - "Icebreaker" Suvorov?

              Not the most authoritative source, although informative

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          3. Phantom Revolution
            Phantom Revolution 18 January 2016 20: 50
            0
            Quote: vlad66
            I don’t know what they thought at the top? But what sensations from such buyers are not good, Stalin did not sell weapons to Hitler.

            But Stalin sold wheat to Hitler, even during World War II.
            We will not sell, others will sell, but we will know the characteristics, features and disadvantages of the sold equipment.
            1. Tatyana
              Tatyana 18 January 2016 21: 34
              -1
              Phantom Revolutions
              We will not sell, others will sell, but we will know the characteristics, features and disadvantages of the sold equipment.

              It is NOT about not to sell Russian weapons at all. The question is - to whom, what, how much and why to sell? And also we are talking about the Russian economy developing comprehensively and harmoniously diverse in the interests of the national security of the country.
          4. kitamo
            kitamo 19 January 2016 07: 07
            0
            I don’t know what they thought at the top? But what sensations from such buyers are not good, Stalin did not sell weapons to Hitler.


            for that he trained pilots and tankers ... and supplied strategic materials
      2. BaLaLaykin
        BaLaLaykin 18 January 2016 19: 56
        +9
        just as we didn’t sell weapons to Pakistan, cherishing India, and now we are hindu Indians with tinsel, and the Chinese are selling their planes to Pakistan with our engines. Many bought or ordered Iran products from us? if someone wants to buy our weapons, then you need to sell, first of all thinking about your budget and secondly about any temporary allies
        1. vovanpain
          vovanpain 18 January 2016 20: 05
          +6
          Quote: Lalaika
          if someone wants to buy our weapons, then you need to sell, first of all thinking about your budget and secondly about any temporary allies

          And you would only sell and sneeze to whom and what, think that Saudi is a hotbed of terrorism, think that this weapon will then flood the same Syria and Iraq with blood, let’s sell the S-400, let the Americans know everything about the Triumphs, but think about the main thing, conscience later. hi
          1. BaLaLaykin
            BaLaLaykin 18 January 2016 21: 07
            +1
            The hotbed of terrorism is America and Britain, but we sell rocket engines to the Americans. The Americans will learn all about the triumphs (in the export version) through India, or China will sell the S-400 clone to the Saudis. The Saud have global plans to build nuclear power plants, if only If a couple of the planned ones would be given to Russia, the profit would be higher than from the sale of oil. And in the petrochemical industry, the Saudis are two heads higher than Russia, and they do not care about the price of oil, they sell products of deep processing all over the world, even the "great" Russian project Tobolsk polymer, was made in the image and likeness of a factory in S.A. How many terrorists did Turkey shelter, but this did not prevent a lot of people from bursting there for Olinklude hi if this money goes to the development of our own production and jobs, remorse will not torment me. let it gnaw at our PUBLIC DEFENSE hi
      3. cap
        cap 18 January 2016 19: 57
        +7
        airborne forces
        Quote: vlad66
        Our allies in the Iran and Syria region will be especially pleased. Well, money doesn’t smell. request


        Who says remote shutdown devices exist?
        Let it be better ours. Than American or Chinese.
        "Comrades" in arms do not disdain anything at all. Our clones will sell.
        We will support our working designers for this money in difficult times. And we’ll come up with something worse.
        They won’t buy the soldier’s fortune anywhere!
        Technique in the hands of cowards, a piece of iron. Even the most modern.
        1. V.ic
          V.ic 18 January 2016 20: 45
          0
          Quote: cap
          Technique in the hands of cowards, a piece of iron. Even the most modern.

          Hooray...
        2. Evgeniy667b
          Evgeniy667b 19 January 2016 07: 25
          -1
          captalk nonsense "For this money, we will support our working designers in difficult times. And we will come up with something worse.". Have you ever had anything to do with production or have? There will soon be no one to work there, despite all kinds of sales. Yes, a little toss, to maintain the trousers, but the main stream Past. Let them do state defense orders, there are enough investments. All left sales, this is the same as for the driver for the coven ...
      4. BaLaLaykin
        BaLaLaykin 18 January 2016 21: 24
        +3
        This is where we have an ally-Iran? He does not even position himself as such, but our "ally" Belarus is quietly trading behind our back and puts a big bolt on all the allied duties. Maybe it's time to tie up the sale of oil to our allies?
    3. Genur
      Genur 18 January 2016 19: 51
      +1
      ... with auto-detonators
    4. AlexTires
      AlexTires 18 January 2016 19: 54
      +2
      Quote: Elektrik
      send poached, so that if you want to shoot, the "self-destruction" function is turned on

      Only diapers can be supplied to weapons-grade Saudis, and those are mined.
      1. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 18 January 2016 20: 13
        +1
        Quote: akshor
        The enemy spends money, devastating foreign exchange reserves. Russia earns currency.
        And the USSR at one time earned allies by supplying weapons.
        1. Woodman
          Woodman 18 January 2016 20: 21
          +6
          That's just the majority of allies for the supply of weapons did not pay ...
        2. tol100v
          tol100v 18 January 2016 20: 41
          +3
          Quote: Thunderbolt
          And the USSR at one time earned allies by supplying weapons.

          Not only and not so much "allies" as hemorrhoids (which has now emerged in the person of the Warsaw Pact friends and the Balts) and the empty pockets of the country and the people! And to supply defensive complexes with reduced characteristics, please!
      2. tol100v
        tol100v 18 January 2016 20: 33
        +1
        Quote: AlexTires
        Armed Saudis can only be delivered
        THEN ONLY condoms!
      3. Dembel77
        Dembel77 18 January 2016 21: 01
        +3
        Arms trade is one of the most profitable legal businesses in the world. We have peace with the Saudis. I see no reason to prohibit trade with them. On the contrary, it’s good - let them take it from us, and not from our closest competitors, the United States or China. I cannot but note the moral component (especially for pseudo-patriots) - it is not a shotgun that fires, but a person who owns it!
    5. Pig
      Pig 18 January 2016 20: 19
      +2
      foreign weapons, especially high-tech, it is always a Trojan horse
      1. tol100v
        tol100v 18 January 2016 20: 42
        +1
        Quote: Pig
        it's always a trojan horse

        It could be "Ivan Susanin" too!
    6. Uran
      Uran 18 January 2016 21: 46
      +1
      nothing bad. let them sell. but they will be dependent on our influence
    7. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov 19 January 2016 00: 37
      +3
      And ours and yours ... But, if Russia does not sell, then the United States or the Chinese will sell ....
    8. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov 19 January 2016 00: 40
      +1
      you definitely need to throw firewood in that firebox so that it doesn’t go out for a long time, there are no brothers there, on either side, let’s shout about the good of oil.
    9. Juborg
      Juborg 19 January 2016 02: 01
      0
      "Komersant", as far as I know, is the mouthpiece of the liberals, and I think it's not worth believing that they will sbreshut there.
    10. midivan
      midivan 19 January 2016 04: 34
      +3
      Quote: Elektrik
      send poached, so that if you want to shoot, the "self-destruction" function is turned on

      Well, right so that immediately when you shoot, it’s not serious, so there will be no clients laughingWell, that's against us, I think it should not work laughing
    11. mishaia_23
      mishaia_23 19 January 2016 09: 10
      +1
      It is better, as always, in a complete export package (with reduced characteristics), but with non-removable bookmarks in electronic blocks, which, if desired, can immobilize this equipment
  2. AdekvatNICK
    AdekvatNICK 18 January 2016 19: 41
    +9
    I understand, of course, that our situation is tense with finances and the economy. But the Saudis ... this is the dad and mother of terror in the entire Middle East.
    1. BaLaLaykin
      BaLaLaykin 18 January 2016 19: 57
      +1
      saudas are anglo-saxon repeaters
      1. tol100v
        tol100v 18 January 2016 20: 48
        0
        Quote: Lalaika
        saudas are anglo-saxon repeaters

        But lately with a broken (not tuned) antenna!
        1. BaLaLaykin
          BaLaLaykin 18 January 2016 21: 08
          0
          not really, just them (Israel) are not satisfied with the abama
    2. tol100v
      tol100v 18 January 2016 20: 46
      +1
      Quote: AdekvatNICK
      ..the same dad and mother of terror in the whole Middle East.

      So they should be given "matches to play with"! This is how small children are taught to avoid fire and other disasters. But if it does not help, then you yourself are to blame!
      1. AdekvatNICK
        AdekvatNICK 18 January 2016 21: 37
        -1
        now the opponents of the Saudis will look askance at us after such deliveries
  3. cheap trick
    cheap trick 18 January 2016 19: 42
    +2
    “The main goal for next year is to hold the second place (after the United States) in the world in arms exports,” said a representative of the Federal Customs Service of the Russian Federation .---- Key goal !!! and that they are opponents almost like the United States, nobody in Russia cares! the main thing is the grandmother! the Turks are already friends !!! still sell the atomic bomb to qatar!
    1. Botanologist
      Botanologist 18 January 2016 20: 06
      +8
      Quote: cheap trick
      and that they are opponents almost like the usa no one in Russia cares


      What kind of opponents are they? You climbed in the wrong direction. The Saudis came to pay off. Our weapons did not fall to them - look at their fleet, there are only F-16 "blocks" with the latest minced meat in terms of armament.
      But politically everything is bad - Yemen is rushing, mercenaries do not save. The Syria project is failing. Iran is watching bloodthirsty, waiting for the moment. The United States is not particularly protective. The budget deficit is under 25%.
      So you have to bargain about something with Putin. About what - xs, I have not read the secret protocols, but they are bargaining for something decent. Maybe a refusal to supply "Buratino" and MANPADS to Yemen, maybe something else.
      1. cheap trick
        cheap trick 18 January 2016 20: 20
        +2
        sorry dear, but someone who, but the Saudis just do not suffer from a lack of money, and they will overcome the 25% deficit easily! they will not buy it for themselves! mark the word, all that Russia will sell to them shortly will pop up at ISIS. and if they are not opponents, then who? friends? allies? they are doing everything for the collapse of oil prices, and then they decided to throw a handout, they had previously collapsed, now they will throw a contract! yes they play with Russia like that with Jerry! and yet, they have enough money to hire an army of the same mercenaries to strangle Yemen, so there is no such order from the United States! It must smolder and not burn everything in the Middle East!
        1. Botanologist
          Botanologist 18 January 2016 20: 45
          +2
          Do you follow the news from Yemen?
          Quote: cheap trick
          and yet, they have enough money to hire an army of the same mercenaries to strangle Yemen,
          Already hired, somehow it doesn't help at all.

          Quote: cheap trick
          remember the word, ISIS will pop up everything that Russia will sell them in the near future.

          I can hardly imagine the Su-30 from ISIS, especially the explanation "where they got it." This is not Kalash, which the whole world makes, this is a piece technique. Or do you think the United States is smiling to look for its civilian liner in the Gulf, which will be caught by ISIS?
          Quote: cheap trick
          the Saudis certainly do not suffer from a shortage of money, and they will overcome the 25% deficit easily!

          I strongly doubt that the introduced shawarma tax will cover 25% of the budget.

          You, my friend, do not theorize, but take an interest in the topic before writing. And it turns out like in the joke "Theoretically, we have 3 million dollars, but in practice, two ladi and one old 3,14 race live with us in the apartment.
        2. tol100v
          tol100v 18 January 2016 21: 04
          +1
          Quote: cheap trick
          b, then there is no such order from the United States! should smolder and not burn everything in the Middle East!

          From spark to flame, no one knows and did not know the threshold, even ZELDOVICH!
      2. tol100v
        tol100v 18 January 2016 20: 52
        0
        Quote: Botanologist
        , may be something else.

        Is that really HZ?
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    3. tol100v
      tol100v 18 January 2016 20: 50
      +2
      Quote: cheap trick
      still sell the atomic bomb to qatar!

      As an unnecessary joke: - Our delivery only!
    4. bald
      bald 19 January 2016 05: 59
      -1
      And what? Especially since ISIS threatens to detonate the atomic bomb in Russia. - How well it will turn out: we will sell and we will be returned the goods with an opportunity! - Everything will be as Russian liberalism dreams: mutual interests and the prosperity of trade.
  4. Primus pilus
    Primus pilus 18 January 2016 19: 42
    +2
    Such things must be done very carefully.
  5. sa-ag
    sa-ag 18 January 2016 19: 44
    +4
    Pumping up the Middle East with weapons to the world there will not contribute
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 18 January 2016 19: 48
      +3
      Quote: sa-ag
      Pumping up the Middle East with weapons to the world there will not contribute

      Apart from us, there, of course, there is nobody to put a weapon on.
      1. Tatyana
        Tatyana 18 January 2016 20: 47
        0
        Vladimirets
        Apart from us, there, of course, there is nobody to put a weapon on.
        This is ordinary demagogy.
        It is necessary to comprehensively raise our industry and n / economic infrastructure in the Russian Federation and earn the state budget for them, and not arm the enemies. What kind of economy in the country is this - oil, and even weapons for sale! And that’s it!
        1. Vladimirets
          Vladimirets 18 January 2016 21: 26
          0
          Quote: Tatiana
          This is ordinary demagogy.

          Are you talking to yourself?
          Quote: Tatiana
          We must comprehensively raise our industry and n / economic infrastructure in the Russian Federation and earn the state budget for them

          I am FOR, only this is "demagoguery". yes
          Quote: Tatiana
          What kind of economy is this in the country - oil, and even weapons for sale! And that’s it!

          In addition to oil and weapons, Russia exports grain (rye, wheat and corn), cigarettes and alcohol, machinery and equipment, mineral fertilizers and other products of the chemical industry, metals (including precious) and rolled products, timber, timber and forest products and etc.
          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana 18 January 2016 21: 44
            0
            Vladimirets
            In addition to oil and weapons, Russia exports grain (rye, wheat and corn), cigarettes and alcohol, cars and equipment, mineral fertilizers and other products of the chemical industry, metals (including precious) and rolled products, timber, timber and forest products, etc.

            Where do you work, what do you write about machines and equipment? You are our smart guy!
            Everything else is raw materials processed mainly by foreigners.
            1. BaLaLaykin
              BaLaLaykin 18 January 2016 21: 58
              +4
              read here before being rude to others
              http://www.customs.ru/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=21621:-2015-&
              catid=53:2011-01-24-16-29-43
              1. Tatyana
                Tatyana 18 January 2016 23: 49
                -2
                BaLaLaykin
                read here before being rude to others

                When I’m rude, I don’t stand on ceremony with the offender either. I have every right to do so. The remark is not to the point.
                http://www.customs.ru/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=21621:-2015-&

                catid=53:2011-01-24-16-29-43

                Thanks for the tip, but it is no good. Firstly, everything is indicated only in monetary terms, and not in units of production.
                Secondly, there is no assortment by industry. All in general. There is nothing to compare.
                Thirdly. There is no comparative analysis of sales development over several years either. And much more is not there.
                If you are satisfied with such information, then I am not.
                Good luck to you!
                1. BaLaLaykin
                  BaLaLaykin 19 January 2016 00: 01
                  +1
                  You don’t provide either in money or in denominations at all, and if you choose between to believe you
                  "Tatiana (3) RU Today, 21:44 ↑
                  Vladimirets
                  In addition to oil and weapons, Russia exports grain (rye, wheat and corn), cigarettes and alcohol, machinery and equipment, mineral fertilizers and other products of the chemical industry, metals (including precious) and rolled products, timber, timber and forest products and etc.
                  Where do you work, what do you write about machines and equipment? You are our smart guy!
                  Everything else is raw materials processed mainly by foreigners. "
                  or official source, I choose the source
                2. BaLaLaykin
                  BaLaLaykin 19 January 2016 00: 23
                  +1
                  http://www.gazeta.ru/infographics/chto_prodaet_rossiya_krome_nefti_i_gaza.shtml здесь по отраслям,или здесь http://government.ru/dep_news/17702/
                  true for 2014, to 2015 will be later
            2. Vladimirets
              Vladimirets 18 January 2016 22: 27
              +1
              Quote: Tatiana
              Where do you work, what do you write about machines and equipment?

              And you, apparently, work in Rosstat?
              1. Tatyana
                Tatyana 18 January 2016 23: 22
                -1
                Vladimirets
                And you, apparently, work in Rosstat?

                I am a basic engineer, mechanical engineer, designer of machinery and equipment. She worked for several years in the military-industrial complex, and then at light industry enterprises. Created equipment from scratch. In his second education, he is a manager of financial, economic and administrative divisions, a specialist in personnel services (department of commercial and entrepreneurial activity). Withdrawal of the enterprise from pilot production to serial. So I'm a practitioner. And I can evaluate the difference in the development of the economy - as it is and as it should be and was. Your hospitable assessments of the state of the Russian economy do not satisfy me. And that is to say the least.
                1. BaLaLaykin
                  BaLaLaykin 18 January 2016 23: 26
                  0
                  to judge the whole heavy industry only from personal experience? maybe you are just an expert about anything?
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    2. tol100v
      tol100v 18 January 2016 21: 09
      +1
      Quote: sa-ag
      Pumping up

      From the SGA, a compressor is working there, which is not going to stop. And our supply is only a presence in the region!
  6. sichevik
    sichevik 18 January 2016 19: 47
    +3
    So the Saudis bought American weapons everywhere. And then suddenly they switch to Russian. Why's that? Or are the Arabs stirring up, or are they filing for divorce with the Americans? Unclear.
    1. tol100v
      tol100v 18 January 2016 21: 10
      +1
      Quote: sichevik
      or file with the Americans for a divorce?

      What? Beloved wife change?
      1. bald
        bald 19 January 2016 06: 08
        0
        NOT a wife but a "cock"!
  7. AlexTires
    AlexTires 18 January 2016 19: 49
    0
    Decision makers on this issue know exactly what they are doing and in whose interests? although it’s called Business, just business ...
  8. Nord2015
    Nord2015 18 January 2016 19: 52
    +6
    Yes, the Saudis will not buy anything from us. This is their chip when they need some concessions from Russia, promises immediately begin to buy military equipment for a lot of money. As if a donkey showed a delicious carrot, by golly.
    1. AlexTires
      AlexTires 18 January 2016 19: 58
      +1
      BMP 3 has long been fighting with the Hussites ...
      1. Nord2015
        Nord2015 18 January 2016 20: 04
        +1
        Quote: AlexTires
        BMP 3 has long been fighting with the Hussites ...

        BMP-3 purchased UAE. The Saudis have Amerov’s Bradley.
        1. AlexTires
          AlexTires 18 January 2016 20: 06
          +1
          sorry - mixed them up ..! hi
    2. Vladimyrych
      Vladimyrych 18 January 2016 20: 00
      0
      Quote: Nord2015
      Yes, the Saudis will not buy anything from us

      Thank God if so. And then our Kremlin ram's mind has a wagon. This is a herd of camels for children in the Kremlin, and it is true that the commercial version of "Eskander" can be driven from the heart.
  9. Alexander 3
    Alexander 3 18 January 2016 19: 52
    0
    Along the way, they want to put the weapon on the igil. Our armed men need to insert a block, which will destroy this weapon if.
    1. AlexW
      AlexW 19 January 2016 13: 09
      +1
      The sale of weapons is not a one-time deal. Sold and forgot. It is surrounded by many conditions. In order not to harm oneself, the Seller is always carefully insured, both legally and technically. In addition, the weapon requires training, maintenance and repair, periodic modernization over a sufficiently long period of time. The more complex and dangerous the weapon, the more severe such conditions. America has put half of the world on such a "short leash." Why should we miss this opportunity? For what ideological dogmas?
  10. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 18 January 2016 19: 53
    +2
    The weapon itself does not fight. The Abrams didn't help them with the kondishens, so why will good Russian weapons help them? Never. If your army DOES NOT WANT to fight for you, no weapon will save you. And our military-industrial complex does not need extra currency.
    1. tol100v
      tol100v 18 January 2016 21: 17
      +3
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Yes, never. If your army DOES NOT WANT to fight for you, no weapon will save you.

      If I am an ignoramus without "rights" to give a fancy "Mercedes" or "Penny", then in the end there will still be a lot of iron! But in the first case, it will remain alive. And this cannot be done !!!
  11. akshor
    akshor 18 January 2016 19: 53
    +1
    In general, the Saudis, along the way, decided to blackmail the United States. And even, it seems to me, they will order something from Russia.
    1. tol100v
      tol100v 18 January 2016 21: 23
      0
      Quote: akshor
      . And even, it seems to me, they will order something from Russia.

      At the direction of the State Department. And then the supply will be lost somewhere in the sands. And it is very similar to a simple rollback, but not money, but technology!
  12. Vladimir 1964
    Vladimir 1964 18 January 2016 19: 54
    -1
    “The main goal for the next year is to keep the second place (after the USA) in the world in arms exports,” said the representative of the Federal Customs Service.


    It is likely that nothing personal, just a business. hi
  13. mitrich
    mitrich 18 January 2016 19: 57
    +6
    Yes, Vespasian was right in saying almost 1950 years ago that money does not smell.
    For our elite, this motto is just right. They are ready to sell weapons to sworn friends for 10 yards, the Qatari ghoul almost takes on a hick the guarantor accepts, who, and don’t go to Satanovsky, put their shepherd’s hook hands to the A-321 explosion.
    Our BMP-3s, of which there are already 600 pieces, are fighting against our interests in Yemen, they drove oil and gas to Kh.ohlostan to the detriment of their country and we with you hundreds of yards, with kissers, hugs and kisses, until they hit us in tinsel. ... how long? recourse

    PySy: I don’t know something, so that the Americans would send their weapons to, say, Iran, S. Korea, Assad. And so what are greedy for their cut paper.
    1. Mikhail Krapivin
      Mikhail Krapivin 18 January 2016 22: 38
      0
      All is correct. Something can be done, something is impossible. Arming the enemy is definitely impossible.
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  14. old pioneer
    old pioneer 18 January 2016 20: 00
    +2
    What a news! request If only Satan under his own power ...
    1. BaLaLaykin
      BaLaLaykin 18 January 2016 22: 06
      0
      Yeah, and 1.5 billion Muslims will tear Russia, moreover, they will unite Sunnis and Shiites and other branches, and those 20 million who live in Russia will begin to tear. In Saudi Arabia there are Muslim shrines for which they will tear anyone who encroaches on them stop
  15. vobels
    vobels 18 January 2016 20: 23
    +2
    Most likely this is a political demonstration, and not a desire to buy or sell something. So, "put up a screen" about the purchase of weapons. And our people understand that by selling air defense systems in the SA, we will provide ISIS with this.
    1. BaLaLaykin
      BaLaLaykin 18 January 2016 23: 11
      -1
      wassat oh these storytellers laughing
  16. ALEA IACTA EST
    ALEA IACTA EST 18 January 2016 20: 26
    0
    I hope ours are going to sell them rubbish at exorbitant prices ...
    1. AlexW
      AlexW 19 January 2016 13: 00
      +1
      Quote: ALEA IACTA EST
      I hope ours are going to sell them rubbish at exorbitant prices ...

      Why make anti-advertising for ourselves? They will sell a new, good, high-quality, but ... export version. And in addition, a long-term program of maintenance, repair and modernization. Our weapons, having proved themselves well in their database, will be well sold to their (SA) enemies and partners. Business and nothing personal. And money ... money will go to our economy ... to the defense industry, to social programs, etc.
  17. Great-grandfather of Zeus
    Great-grandfather of Zeus 18 January 2016 20: 31
    +4
    Weapons bought by the Saudis will still shoot in our backs, and more than once.
  18. lexx2038
    lexx2038 18 January 2016 20: 35
    -2
    A holy place does not happen empty, not we, so sell! After the sale, we will probably also carry out maintenance and repairs, from here some of our presence will be identified there and, on the other hand, the wallet will become a little thinner and the effect of our luck may decrease. After all, the war is going on, somewhere they shoot, but somewhere they lower the grandmas ...
    1. S-17
      S-17 18 January 2016 21: 20
      0
      Exactly! Having put the Saudis on our armament, Russia thereby fastens them on a leash with maintenance, they will be more accommodating ... well, or money down the drain)))
    2. bald
      bald 19 January 2016 07: 28
      -1
      Sure ! Let them then "vpendyuryat" to us with the same, but today we have work!
  19. forester
    forester 18 January 2016 20: 57
    +1
    The visit of the Saudis is not yet a purchase contract, but only a declaration of intent I won’t be surprised that this is a screen, but in fact impressed by the effectiveness of our VKS strikes, they are going to bargain for another reason (a point is squeezing) maybe they will ask for something in exchange for a reduction in oil production at home Let me remind you - oil went down after they announced an increase in production. But what will be the result of their visit, we will see very soon
  20. valent45
    valent45 18 January 2016 21: 00
    0
    I understand that business is only, but how will Iran look at it?
    1. dvina71
      dvina71 18 January 2016 21: 04
      0
      Do not care how he looks. He is not an ally to us. There are common interests, but nothing more.
      1. AlexW
        AlexW 19 January 2016 09: 22
        0
        Iran is happily increasing oil exports and is not at all worried about how this will affect our economy.
    2. AlexW
      AlexW 19 January 2016 09: 16
      0
      What are you looking at Iran? Another ally brother? Whatever it is, it will throw at any moment convenient for him. But only the voiced possibility of delivering high-tech weapons to its potential enemy makes Iran very flexible and sharply reduces the amplitude of rotation of its fifth point.
  21. dvina71
    dvina71 18 January 2016 21: 02
    0
    From clueless .. Well, our Saudis will sell advanced systems that require a trained contingent .. How will this help? What do the Saudis organize for them in the form of beech / tori? Well, you’re just like children .. And what you need, seven ..7.62x39, the Saudis organize without us.
  22. Flatter
    Flatter 18 January 2016 21: 15
    +1
    As far as is known, the Saudis supported the militants of Chechnya. As if this weapon did not return to Russia.
    1. AlexW
      AlexW 19 January 2016 09: 11
      +1
      What came back? S-300, T-72, BMP and the entire flower and artillery collection ?? How do you imagine that? Yes, let the camel keep hammering each other, and we will throw it to them .... for the money ... big ones. GAS - They will not buy oil from us.
  23. S-17
    S-17 18 January 2016 21: 17
    +2
    And why again the screeching was raised on the topic "we sell to the wrong one"? And who on the BV for Russia are "their", and indeed in the world? Russia must do everything for the good of Russia itself, and the rest of today's "friends" tomorrow can easily become fierce enemies, as well as vice versa. This is business - sell if you buy, and politics - where there are no friends and cannot be.
    Plus to that. export weapons always go to the buyer in a truncated form, i.e. a priori, it cannot exceed what goes for our aircraft.
    We are doing everything right, in politics there is no place for snot and other emotions! If a war broke out there, then Russia should even have its own profit!
  24. iouris
    iouris 18 January 2016 21: 19
    +1
    The Saudis are buying weapons for whom?
  25. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 18 January 2016 21: 21
    +1
    Who knows who knows. Maybe really shrimochka. And conversations are being conducted on completely different topics.
    You think there’s nothing to talk about with them?
    1. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 19 January 2016 05: 48
      +1
      Sources of the article "Look" and "Kommersant". Maybe it's enough to analyze?
  26. zakamsk1971
    zakamsk1971 18 January 2016 21: 24
    0
    The Saudis are us thugs, such as Khattab, and we give them weapons! I'm in aooh ... e from such a ,, policy ,, !!!
    1. bald
      bald 19 January 2016 07: 34
      +1
      What do you want? Only business and nothing more! -How taught.
  27. hhpp
    hhpp 18 January 2016 21: 31
    0
    And what will come from the sale to the treasury and what will not be stolen?
  28. miru mir
    miru mir 18 January 2016 21: 46
    0
    Wai! Where is mahmud-vatnichok? Here he was broadcasting everything about the supply of Israeli weapons to the Arab aggressor and other crap, according to the Iranian training manual wassat
  29. jetfors_84
    jetfors_84 18 January 2016 21: 57
    0
    Once again, make sure that the money does not smell.
    1. AlexW
      AlexW 19 January 2016 09: 07
      +1
      What about the desire to get off the "raw needle"? Selling high-tech weapons isn't kosher? Thus, to develop their own defense industry and economy?
  30. zloi_dekabr
    zloi_dekabr 18 January 2016 21: 58
    +1
    Quote: Pimply
    Quote: Tatiana
    Saudi Arabia supplies weapons to Daesh militants and fights against Syria and Iraq! An armed Saudi confrontation with Iran is also possible.

    ISIS - no. To radical Sunni groups, yes. And Iran for Russia is an ally rather controversial and more forced
    Quote: Tatiana
    In the Soviet Union, even a conversation would NOT go about such a deal with the Saudis! This would be regarded as a betrayal of the country's national security and the loss of allies in the BV

    Even as if walking. The Soviet Union was a fairly flexible state. If anything, in Iran the USSR was called the Small Satan.

    Russia has two allies: ARMY and Navy !!!!!!!!! So I agree, it is necessary in the English manner to say that there are no friends, there are interests!
  31. Garris199
    Garris199 18 January 2016 22: 08
    +1
    The Saudis need to put the Gauges, by the method of launches from ships. Here it will be delivery so delivery. And of course, all air defense systems and offensive weapons should be bookmarked.
  32. Aandrewsir
    Aandrewsir 18 January 2016 22: 17
    0
    Are we going to supply weapons to an unfriendly "wild medieval country"? It's sad. After all, "money smells." And sometimes they just "stink" !!!
  33. Comrade Glebov
    Comrade Glebov 18 January 2016 22: 17
    0
    Quote: Baikonur
    Maybe soon the US will sell weapons !?

    Any pleasure for your money! And yours and ours will dance for a penny! And these scoundrels tomorrow, having saved on the fact that they bought our cheaper and better equipment, will finance the Wahhabis in our Caucasus with the remaining money. They will also make oil lower to "please" "our" capitalists, so that the ruble is cheaper than toilet paper. And we'll give them something else on the cheap. Ugh, disgusting!
    1. AlexW
      AlexW 19 January 2016 08: 59
      +1
      Will not buy from us, will buy in the USA. Billions of dollars will go to our potential "partners". These billions will support them, not our economy. Will it make you feel better? Wahhabis will screw themselves up anyway .... Maybe it's better to meet them not with an empty wallet and destroyed defense?
      1. Evgeniy667b
        Evgeniy667b 19 January 2016 12: 56
        0
        And where did you get the idea that this money will go into our economy ??? If the deal succeeds. the crumbs will be thrown, the rest will be stolen. What will remain - Nabiullina in the USA will list. You should not indulge in naivety like that ...
  34. Comrade Glebov
    Comrade Glebov 18 January 2016 22: 21
    +1
    I respected Putin before, he seemed to me to be a strong, strong leader, who by all means will be with the Russian people. And now I don’t know what to think about him ... Though with a devil in an embrace, if only to cut money. Guarantor of Chubais and stools.
  35. Mikhail Krapivin
    Mikhail Krapivin 18 January 2016 22: 31
    +1
    Fuck them on the snout, so that the heart does not ache! (Horseradish is such a vegetable :)
  36. max702
    max702 18 January 2016 22: 37
    0
    But is there such a move on the part of the bourgeoisie as simply buying out weapons from us that could be useful to us ourselves? How do they pay? Green pieces of paper, virtual zeroes, and in return receive the REAL REAL materially embodied goods! What they will still print .. But we can not get anything worthwhile on these pieces of paper! They don’t stupidly sell us the necessary goods, all kinds of crap like apples, chicken, bentley, yes clothes, please, but machine tools, technological lines, or electronics like a military FIG! In the words of Comrade Stalin, if you buy one ship from the enemy, then consider that you bought TWO! Is it not according to this scheme that the Saudis act, all bourgeois go to reduce the enemy’s military potential .. The masks are now dropped and only military strength is valued in the world, and as you know, technology is a component of this force, and this deprives us of it .. How do you such a thought? She does not give me peace for a long time .. We are changing our security to virtual zeros, while arming the enemy ..
    pc: It’s not necessary that our enterprises will live on the money from the contracts and our people will receive a salary, the money in the country has FALLED! It is only our liberals from the government who broadcast no money! Yeah, no .. Okay, there they bought in August American papers on 21,5 billion \ dollars am , Duc, and after this truly insanely bad waste in the budget as of November 2014, 10, XNUMX trillion rubles not used money! And the advances not paid yet 4 trillion rubles..http: //finobzor.ru/show-4097-delyagin-na-gaydarovskom-forume-liberaly-nachali-


    podgotovku-k-razgrableniyu-rossii.html. There is money in the country! Only now, there’s no one to ask whoever controls them, and it’s absolutely not important in what state our economy is, there is always one answer to the country's vital money! Until this problem is solved for the rest, you can’t take it anyway, nothing good will come of it, so half measures ..
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  37. samoletil18
    samoletil18 18 January 2016 22: 44
    +1
    Here the people wound up! What is the Saudi visit? But prodono nothing. And then nothing will be sold to the Saudis, or rather, the Saudis will not buy anything.
    This is just the official screen of the future meeting, and we will never know what the President and the king will decide in reality.
    1. Valdis
      Valdis 18 January 2016 23: 10
      +3
      They do not know how to do business.))) For us they are all strangers, asking for a good price, give it back. This is not a paddling pool, we will immediately remove the loot, without any casuistry. They arrive because they are bargaining. Do you know how they do business in Afghanistan?)) Don't know)))
  38. lablizn
    lablizn 18 January 2016 23: 01
    +1
    What is the conversation about?
    Where is the reliable information from the source?
    Similar to the Ukrainian public?
  39. Valdis
    Valdis 18 January 2016 23: 04
    +3
    Learn from the Anglo-Saxons, protect only your interests. Sell ​​to everyone, Saudis, Persians, Alawites. There is nothing to spare them, war is war, on the shores of others. For us, these are orders and a loud coin and jobs.)))) The economy needs to be untwisted. And which of them will win ??))) Bet the gentlemen of the jury)))))
  40. Tavush
    Tavush 18 January 2016 23: 08
    +1
    Most likely there is a desire to bind to yourself and make dependent deliveries of weapons and components to them
  41. Former battalion commander
    Former battalion commander 18 January 2016 23: 19
    +2
    Another madness of the Russian authorities (if you count the Mistral, loans to Ukraine, the surrender of Libya). Give weapons to your real enemy and COMPETITOR? Complete nonsense! Instead of giving Iran weapons and sending them to Saudi Arabia (let two large oil producers gouging each other), they are on the contrary arming their OPPONENT! Except as idiocy it can not be called. I won’t be surprised if they also give loans to the Saudis for this ...
  42. Homo sapiens
    Homo sapiens 18 January 2016 23: 50
    -2
    Give me the cons, but .... Money doesn't smell ??? For our authorities, money does not smell .... Sad .... Oil has fallen in price four times. And gas is getting cheaper. Energy prices fell, and utility bills rose. Fuel for thermal power plants is cheaper for the owners, and they make us buy electricity more expensive. There is no enemy who cannot be called a friend for money ... There is no crime that the capitalist would not commit for 200% of profit ... If only the children of politicians would be taken to the war, both in power and in the opposition, the wars would have ended long ago would ... Truly, to whom war is, and to whom mother is dear ...
  43. Barakuda
    Barakuda 18 January 2016 23: 55
    0
    I was in Saudi Arabia. An ugly country, And how many women of our doctors are in any hospital, thank God that they are valued better than Filipinos. sad . That's just the hell out of the street. Everything must be in black and under guard; the locals literally at a distance end from the Slavs.
    1. BaLaLaykin
      BaLaLaykin 19 January 2016 00: 09
      +1
      I was there too, what is the ugliness? is that the distribution of drugs is the death penalty?
      for the murder of an Arab, even in an accident-death penalty, for homosexuality-the death penalty, for theft, drunkenness-prison?
      Prices in shops are scanty, surcharges from the state, interest-free loans for their own everything. Is this ugliness?
  44. Fat
    Fat 19 January 2016 00: 36
    +1
    Quote: ALEA IACTA EST
    I hope ours are going to sell them rubbish at exorbitant prices ...

    In 973 the USSR delivered a "square" to Egypt. These homing missiles were like shooting down ... As a result, about a fifth of the Egyptian Air Force was shot down by "friendly fire" ... Well, it happened ... request repeat
    1. Barakuda
      Barakuda 19 January 2016 01: 32
      0
      Libyan Air Force, then the roof went to Gaddafi, then they were silent. Because it’s not clear, Migi against Cubes and Squares .. request
  45. bbss
    bbss 19 January 2016 00: 54
    0
    50 megatons with delivery.
  46. nerpa
    nerpa 19 January 2016 02: 01
    0
    Stanislavsky would say: I do not believe!
  47. Wolka
    Wolka 19 January 2016 05: 34
    0
    the pursuit of short-term gain in the military market is a mistake, and in general, I think it’s too rash a decision, the Saudis are the very detonator that will blow up the Arab world more than once ...
  48. AlexW
    AlexW 19 January 2016 05: 57
    +1
    In the 90s in the Duma, Western liberals seriously discussed the issue of a legislative ban on the export of weapons. "This is not so humane! They will kill someone with our weapon! How can that be?" And the fact that by doing so we finished off our industry, the country was rapidly becoming impoverished, it is no longer important. For some reason, the fact that the United States increased arms sales by "humanists" was not discussed.
  49. dr. sem
    dr. sem 19 January 2016 06: 01
    0
    If the contract passes, then the fact of arming one of the units of the global enemy (SA) will once again confirm the fact of systematic occupation of the Russian Federation by global business, the interests of which are the SGA with an absolutely unqualified president (the Rockefellers / Rothschilds decide everything and hmm .... childish).
    The systemic crisis of the capsystem has been going on for half a century. Poverty, hunger, inequality pace the planet. A little more and the social explosions of the XIX-XX CENTURIES seem a prank. The new explosion will be global and no one knows how it will end. Capitalism will be destroyed. It’s a pity if TOGETHER with all living things on Earth. And contracts like this one more drop to catastrophe.
    1. AlexW
      AlexW 19 January 2016 09: 34
      0
      "The global enemy of the SA". And who are our friends-allies to whom we are selling weapons? Where are the guarantees that tomorrow they will not suddenly become the next “global enemies.” In this case, it is an economically and probably politically advantageous deal. The USSR just for "pretty eyes" filled up Eastern Europe with weapons and now it shoots at us. Greece is a NATO member who is we? Friend or foe? And she buys our weapons and asks for more.
  50. 31rus
    31rus 19 January 2016 06: 23
    0
    Dear, there will not be any supplies to Russia and the United States, "these monarchies are tired," the same with Qatar, the process of removing the CA from the big game is going on, the Saudis, Qataris are out of the game, so they rush about looking for support, this is cooperation in the region , one sponsor remains Israel