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Six Varshavyanok will be built for the Pacific Fleet

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For the pacific fleet 6 submarines of project 636 will be built, reports the blog bmpd With reference to the head of the naval shipbuilding department Vladimir Tryapichnikov.


The first two large diesel-electric submarines of the 06363 B-261 Novorossiysk and B-237 Rostov-on-Don project in Sevastopol.

“In the future, the Navy is making attempts, and, in general, they must find their confirmation in laying and building six more 636 submarines of the project that will go for the Pacific Fleet,” said Tryapichnikov on air of the Russian Service News". - The appearance (submarines), of course, will be finalized taking into account the operation in the Pacific Fleet, but, indeed, we confirm this fact that construction will be carried out in the near future."

According to him, “in the near future, design offices and research institutes will be engaged in the formation of tactical and technical views on the design of new nuclear submarines.”

Bmpd recalls that “under contracts 2010 and 2011, Admiralty Shipyards in St. Petersburg is building a series of six large diesel-electric submarines of the 06363 project for the Black Sea Fleet, and four boats have already been transferred to the Russian Navy, two of which have arrived on the Black Sea Fleet.
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  1. Yellow white
    Yellow white 18 January 2016 15: 57
    13
    You shouldn’t forget about the Pacific, but the Japanese are grinning over the Kuril Islands, and indeed, with these disputed Spratly islands, it seems ... we are not directly affected, again, while not touching, and there are no superfluous submarines ..
    In this case, it is better to overdo it than not dovezdet hi
    1. Ami du peuple
      Ami du peuple 18 January 2016 16: 04
      +7
      Quote: Black and White
      In this case, it is better to overdo it than not dovezdet

      At the Pacific Fleet, it is DEPL that needs more - in order for Japanese tankers to sink, in which case. In general, updating this class of submarines is vital. And then in the Pacific, our youngest dizelyuhe third dozen already.
      1. seti
        seti 18 January 2016 17: 21
        0
        Quote: Ami du peuple

        At the Pacific Fleet, it is DEPL that needs more - in order for Japanese tankers to sink, in which case. In general, updating this class of submarines is vital. And then in the Pacific, our youngest dizelyuhe third dozen already.

        Very correct remark :)
      2. Observer2014
        Observer2014 18 January 2016 17: 25
        +2
        Ours are closing the perimeter of the country with Caliber carriers
        What else can I say. Only one thing: "It will not be enough" Just like from the famous cartoon. Although of course it depends on what "Caliber" is to equip.
        1. gergi
          gergi 18 January 2016 22: 27
          +1
          Gauges can be beaten from old rusty torpedo tubes, of which we have a bunch of thuja. The missiles themselves must be stamped.
    2. seti
      seti 18 January 2016 17: 20
      +6
      Damn what a contrast. Beautiful yachts on one side against more or less buildings and rusty ships of another era in the bottom of the photo against the background of a rickety roof. Not really it is impossible to bring all this to mind - if ships are not needed in scrap metal, build new ones. Demolish or restore the building. The reign of the port reprimand.
      1. Alexey RA
        Alexey RA 18 January 2016 18: 09
        +2
        Quote: seti
        Not really it is impossible to bring all this to mind - if ships are not needed in scrap metal, build new ones. Demolish or restore the building. The reign of the port reprimand.

        So this is Sevastopol. The heavy legacy of ferns. smile
  2. Primus pilus
    Primus pilus 18 January 2016 16: 02
    +3
    It would be faster to bring the 677 fret to mind.
    1. chunga-changa
      chunga-changa 18 January 2016 16: 08
      +4
      The military is simply not satisfied with the promises and tales about the "Lada". They do not protect their homeland with promises, so they ordered it. The Admiralteys are now building 2 boats in two years, therefore this series will be built for 6 years. Consequently, for the next six years, no one hopes for any refinement of the "Lada".
      1. oldseaman1957
        oldseaman1957 18 January 2016 16: 21
        0
        Quote: chunga-changa
        The military is simply not satisfied with the promises and tales about the "Lada".
        - The main brake here is our economy, and our Kremlin "umischi" are still waiting for a jump in oil prices. Why else do they have problems with gray matter in their heads?
        PySy: Oh, on Magadan they would turn around !!!
        1. Amurets
          Amurets 19 January 2016 00: 39
          +1
          Quote: oldseaman1957
          What other problems do they have in their heads with gray matter.

          No problems! They were fixated on two problems: what to steal and to whom to sell.
  3. ImPerts
    ImPerts 18 January 2016 16: 02
    +4
    "Black hole" will be useful wherever it is necessary to protect the interests of our country)))
    I am not embarrassed by her non-atomic nature, I am pleased with her low noise, which allows her to appear in the middle of an AUG order.
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 18 January 2016 16: 07
      +8
      The boat is still of the past generation, without VNEU, and the noise there is higher than the current generation.

      By the way - 6 boats for the Black Sea Fleet were to be the last for the Navy of that family. At the Pacific Fleet, it was planned to order improved boats according to the updated 677 (even without VNEU), which are already quieter, more functional and automated. However, the order went to the good old 636, either the question of money, or the improved 677 can not get on.
      1. red_october
        red_october 18 January 2016 16: 28
        +1
        636 already got the hang of doing 3 years, moreover.
      2. Dart2027
        Dart2027 18 January 2016 19: 16
        0
        Quote: donavi49
        However, the order went to the good old 636, either the issue of money, or the improved 677 can not get on with it.

        I don’t think that money is the main problem - 636 is also not worth a penny. Well-established serial production is always faster, and new ones are needed yesterday.
    2. Amurets
      Amurets 19 January 2016 00: 43
      +1
      Quote: ImPerts
      "Black hole" will be useful wherever it is necessary to protect the interests of our country)))

      So far, with such a government, there is a "black hole" in finances. A lot of "effective managers" have divorced.
  4. red_october
    red_october 18 January 2016 16: 03
    12
    Come on, dear shipbuilders!
    There is no time to relax!
  5. dmi.pris
    dmi.pris 18 January 2016 16: 04
    +4
    Seven feet of water under the keel !!! We are waiting for boats with non-volatile power plants ..
  6. avt
    avt 18 January 2016 16: 04
    +2
    That is, Lada "is a furry animal of the tundra, despite the completion of the existing buildings ..... Probably, Vesta should immediately" ask the Swedes to do the styling, without bothering with the Kalina " wassat .... Well, at least so with 636 mi, than generally without everything against the background of the Japanese ....
    1. NEXUS
      NEXUS 18 January 2016 17: 34
      +4
      Quote: avt
      That is, Lada "fur tundra animal,

      Lada bring to mind (problems with anaerobic SU). Kalina at the design stage ... More upset by the shift in terms of Ash. And 885 the same Pacific Fleet needed as air.
  7. Rokossovsky
    Rokossovsky 18 January 2016 16: 05
    +3
    The news is certainly good, but an incomprehensible shed against the backdrop of fresh boats does not quite fit into my concept of a new naval base.
    IMHO
    1. Serg65
      Serg65 18 January 2016 22: 44
      +1
      Quote: Rokossovsky
      The news is certainly good, but an incomprehensible shed against the backdrop of fresh boats does not quite fit into my concept of a new naval base.

      T. Rokosovsky, what new naval base are you talking about? In the photo is the South Bay of Sevastopol !!!! Below are photographs of the moorings and the headquarters of the former 153 brigade, then 27 separate submarine brigades, and now the 247th separate division. And the building, by the way, is one of the few that survived the defense of Sevastopol in 1941-42, and it is already 100 years old, if not more. In the photo, the notorious submarine "Kambala" is just moored to these berths.
  8. izya top
    izya top 18 January 2016 16: 07
    +5
    well-coordinated crews.
    and ukrodypka wink
    According to TSN, 20 Caliber missiles were fired at the positions of the Armed Forces in a day
    18 from a submarine, and two from the Russian ISS module.
    1. Lt. Air Force stock
      Lt. Air Force stock 18 January 2016 16: 36
      +2
      Quote: izya top
      According to TSN, 20 Caliber missiles were fired at the positions of the Armed Forces in a day
      18 from a submarine, and two from the Russian ISS module.

      So at Varshavyanka there’s a total of 18 units of weapons in the torpedo compartment, do they even go to sea without torpedoes? And if the war catches up in a campaign, what to defend? You cannot sink an enemy submarine in gauges ...
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  9. alex80
    alex80 18 January 2016 16: 09
    +1
    It's time for the Pacific Fleet to start updating! Fleet with direct access to the ocean and with the ability to quickly
    operational deployment is updated last. It doesn’t matter negative
    1. VALERIK_097
      VALERIK_097 18 January 2016 16: 41
      +1
      they won’t let them go to the ocean there, now it’s worth taking care of mining a 12-mile zone.
      Yes to smell from the pier, no problem.
  10. Engineer
    Engineer 18 January 2016 16: 19
    +1
    And on the tape I read that 11 pieces will be built
  11. Zomanus
    Zomanus 18 January 2016 16: 21
    0
    I think that by the time these boats come to us,
    our time will already be written off.
    By the way, not the topic, but interesting about the F-35
    http://rusnext.ru/news/1453103108
  12. Don
    Don 18 January 2016 16: 46
    +2
    Pretty tortured decision, because nevertheless, they were waiting until the very end that they would bring to mind the Lada project. In the marine open spaces of the Far East, they would be very useful with their stealth, powerful sonar system and weapons. I believe that the Northern Fleet will still be waiting for Lada with VNEU in the first half of the next decade. After 2019, they promise to deliver the first two production Lads, and they will most likely go to the Baltic, but given how many times the deadline has been postponed, even these figures seem optimistic.
  13. Great-grandfather of Zeus
    Great-grandfather of Zeus 18 January 2016 16: 53
    +3
    Yeah, so they decided that it’s better to build what is, than to wait for promises for years.
  14. evge-malyshev
    evge-malyshev 18 January 2016 17: 03
    +1
    “In the future, the Navy is making attempts, and, in general, they should find their confirmation in the laying and construction of six more submarines of the 636 project, which will go for the Pacific Fleet,” Tryapichnikov said on the air of the Russian News Service.

    What is "... attempts are being made ...", "... must find their confirmation in the laying and construction of six more submarines 636 of the project ..."? This is water, water and then water.

    It was possible to do only with this phrase: "6 Project 636 submarines will be built for the Pacific Fleet, the bmpd blog reports with reference to the head of the naval shipbuilding department, Vladimir Tryapichnikov."
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 18 January 2016 18: 13
      0
      Quote: evge-malyshev
      It was possible to do only with this phrase: "6 Project 636 submarines will be built for the Pacific Fleet, the bmpd blog reports with reference to the head of the naval shipbuilding department, Vladimir Tryapichnikov."

      You incorrectly translated the phrase from the clerical office into Russian. smile
      The phrase "in the future, attempts are being made, and, in general, they must find their confirmation in the laying and construction"translates as if they find money in the budget and if the developer with the plant finally takes into account all our numerous numerous comments, then the submarines will be laid and someday will be built.
  15. cherkas.oe
    cherkas.oe 18 January 2016 18: 42
    +1
    In general, the news is neither this nor that, they talk between n ... and w ..., no specifics. Think for yourself what you want, if they will build these six boats, if not, if it will be "Varshavyanka", "Toli" Lada, or maybe even "Kalina".
  16. SPIKER
    SPIKER 18 January 2016 19: 59
    -2
    The picture in the photo is strong !!! Two "Varshavyanka" at two brand new piers, and on the wall there is complete ruin and rickety buildings !!! "Garno pratsyuvali and buduvali" are the former owners !!! ! Excellent contrast !!!
    1. Serg65
      Serg65 18 January 2016 22: 57
      +3
      Quote: SPIKER
      The picture in the photo is strong !!! Two "Varshavyanka" at two brand new piers, and on the wall there is complete ruin and rickety buildings !!! "Garno pratsyuvali and buduvali" are the former owners !!! ! Excellent contrast !!!

      Here is another connoisseur of Sevastopol environs wassat
      In this photo, for connoisseurs, South Bay 1946 is the year in the upper right corner the descent of the Heroes of Sevastopol, and at the water edge to the left of the building you are so unimportant!