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The State Department believes that Russia is beginning to take Western sanctions more seriously than before. Coordinator of the US Department of State for Sanctions Daniel Fried crumbled in compliments to Europe, which came up with sanctions against Russia. She did it to the detriment of her own economic interests, but in a “united front”. According to Fried, the appointment of sanctions is not a punishment of anyone, but a change in the line of his behavior.




Speaking at the American University (Washington), US State Department Coordinator for Sanctions Daniel Fried presented the US government’s view of sanctions as an instrument of international politics, "Voice of America".

Fried believes that today, measures of economic pressure often lead to greater effect than the use of military force. The current politicians have developed a number of rules with the introduction of sanctions. A State Department official outlined them.

1. Sanctions should not be imposed individually. The ideal option implies the support of the UN Security Council. True, other permanent members of the Security Council (like Russia and China) may block the resolution. In this case, the United States should resort to the support of geopolitical allies. That is exactly what brought Russia to the negotiating table, Fried is sure. “When developing sanctions against Russia,” he says, “from the very beginning we decided to cooperate with the G-7 countries and the European Union ... Before that, on such a scale, we didn’t do anything of the kind. These sanctions were not something invented in America and imposed on Europe. On the contrary, they were developed jointly with Europe. ” In his speech, the diplomat highly appreciated the role of the EU states: they sometimes even showed a consistency of actions towards Russia at the expense of their economic interests.

2. You can not rush things. The effect of sanctions may manifest itself over time.

3. The meaning of sanctions is not to punish someone, but to change the line of conduct. This is what happened with Iran: sanctions on it will soon be lifted in exchange for an agreement to refuse to develop nuclear weapons. The diplomat counts on a similar outcome in the case of Russia. This country, Fried is convinced, is beginning to take the situation more seriously.

Some politicians in Europe, however, are very doubtful about changing the sanctions policy and even more so in the near future lifting of sanctions against Russia.

For example, the other day, Lithuanian President Dalia Grybauskaite said in an interview with the ICTV channel that the European Union would retain sanctions against Russia.

“Europe understands and agrees with the principles specified in the Minsk deals, but they are not implemented. Therefore, the sanctions will remain ", - quotes Dalia Grybauskaite Gazeta.ru.

The Lithuanian President doubts that Russia "will agree to any peacekeeping activity in these (Donbas) territories".

Francophone portal "AgoraVox" (source of translation - "InoTV") believes that everything will be different, and the counter-sanctions of Moscow "will plunge the West into a severe depression."

Putin is preparing new laws against the West, and they will allow Russia to return everything that has been lost due to Western sanctions and “American manipulation of oil prices,” AgoraVox indicates.

Why is Putin’s anti-ban strategy successful? The fact is that the Russian president prefers to sell oil for gold. In the future, this strategy promises him an economic victory. The West will receive, if not a collapse of the economy, then a protracted depression.

New Putin's laws will lead to this final. The President of the Russian Federation submitted to the State Duma "one of the most dangerous laws of those that the modern история Of Russia. " Once they are approved, they will create a nightmarish "economic cyclone." Before, the West did not see such a "cyclone". Putin’s new legislative initiative will immediately plunge the US and the EU into depression.

What is invented in Moscow?

It turns out that, according to the bills, Russian companies, both public and private, should suspend the payment of loans in excess of 700 billion dollars to state banks that apply sanctions against Russia, as well as to banks that have branches in these countries.

Such an initiative will allow the Russian Federation to return the money that it lost as a result of "Western manipulation of world oil prices" and "attacks on the ruble."

Where did such bills come from? What caused them?

According to the resource, V. V. Putin was “forced” to pass the bill to the Duma because of the “grim” report of Minister Ulyukayev, as well as forecasts by British experts predicting a drop in oil prices to 10 dollars per barrel.

There is another way in which Russia intends to withdraw from the international petrodollar system. Opened St. Petersburg International Commodity Exchange. It will bring Russia out of this dependence.

The portal is surprised that the American media do not inform citizens about the “terrible influence” that new Russian laws may have on the situation in the United States.

Meanwhile, the publication reminds, in anticipation of the collapse of the petrodollar system, Putin is selling oil and gas for gold. Only from October to December 2014, Russia acquired 55 tons of gold. This amount exceeds the volume of purchases of precious metals of the banks of the world taken together. In the medium term, Russia will benefit from this strategy, even if today it is suffering losses. "This brilliant economic combination of Putin put the West, led by the United States, in the position of a snake, which aggressively eats its tail," the resource believes. As a result, Putin will "checkmate" the West.

Well, let's wait for the next “brilliant” move from the “combinator”. In the meantime, let us return to the statements of Mr. Fried and give the opinion of the Russian expert on the possible easing of sanctions against Russia.

Foreign Relations Expert Fyodor Lukyanov believes that if American politicians go to mitigate, then similar actions can be expected from European colleagues. “Washington, of course, does not give direct instructions to Europe,” said the analyst. Gazeta.ru. - But the EU is very sensitive to the American position. As soon as there are signs that the United States is ready for compromise, those forces that are unhappy with the sanctions policy and would like to cancel it in their own interests immediately liven up and start telling their governments that they need to move towards lifting the adopted restrictions. ”

Since Mr. Fried is one of the staunch supporters of a tough policy towards Russia, Lukyanov calls to take his words seriously: "If he speaks about this, it means that something really happens in the negotiation direction."

At the same time, the expert notes that Fried said nothing about the Crimea. This means that we can talk about the removal of only those restrictions that were introduced after the initial ones.

As we see it, Fried’s statements, as well as the echoes of his speeches in Europe, are not at all aimed at lifting sanctions, but represent an additional way to put pressure on Russia and force it to make so-called compromises in Ukraine. The time for pressure was chosen the most suitable: oil is rapidly getting cheaper, the ruble exchange rate is subject to inflation, the Russians are getting poorer every day, and the partner is China openly doubted Russia’s withdrawal from the crisis, while the Kremlin maintains the existing economic policy.

In addition, most recently, at the end of December 2015, the US Department of the Treasury has expanded list of "authorized" legal entities and individuals of the Russian Federation.

All this means that no refusal of sanctions is expected in the near future. At least, one should not expect such a move from the Obama administration, which political opponents in the United States already criticize for being too soft.

Observed and commented on Oleg Chuvakin
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  1. avvg
    avvg 19 January 2016 06: 33 New
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    Western sanctions against Russia have been introduced for a long time, everyone understands this, except for liberals in the government.
    1. Baikal
      Baikal 19 January 2016 06: 39 New
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      Russian companies, both state and private, must suspend the payment of loans in excess of 700 billion dollars to state banks applying sanctions against Russia

      That will be SCHUKHER ...
      If they accept, it will be a kick to the whole west. laughing
      1. Baikal
        Baikal 19 January 2016 06: 55 New
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        On the other hand - I did not find confirmation of this news.
        No serious news agency has yet published anything about this.
        Gentlemen - it is necessary to understand if this is not disinfect.
        1. Cheshire
          Cheshire 19 January 2016 07: 29 New
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          On the other hand there is nothing disproving this news. The denouement has to come sometime, and this decision is not the worst and rather elegant, in the style of GDP.
          hi
          1. Zoldat_A
            Zoldat_A 19 January 2016 08: 40 New
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            Quote: Cheshire
            On the other hand, I did not find confirmation of this news.
            No serious news agency has yet published anything about this.
            Gentlemen - it is necessary to understand if this is not disinfect.

            Quote: Cheshire
            On the other hand, there is nothing to refute this news. The denouement has to come sometime, and this decision is not the worst and rather elegant, in the style of GDP.

            This is unlikely to happen. Because relations with Western banks will be ruined for a very, very long time.

            Of course, the logic here is present - if we ruin our relations with Western banks, our banks lose their usual activities - pumping credit dough from America to Russia and will forced move the tomatoes yourself or close, because the bank cannot live on salary cards and time deposits alone.

            On the one hand, it’s high time to do this so that we have our own banking system, and not credit branches of Western banks. With another - In our country, too much incomprehensible is happening - remember the lucky hat of Taburetkin - for the suspension of payments to Western banks to become true. And the HSE is not working for that, and the Kudrinsky fosterlings are sitting in the government like bark beetles, so that something will turn against Western banks in our country.
            1. SRC P-15
              SRC P-15 19 January 2016 08: 54 New
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              Quote: Zoldat_A
              This is unlikely to happen. Because relations with Western banks will be ruined for a very, very long time.

              And the fact that Western banks deprived us of the opportunity to lend from them - is it their way to establish friendly relations? This is called an economic war, but in war all means are good!
              1. Oldwiser
                Oldwiser 19 January 2016 11: 34 New
                +6
                The Bolsheviks at one time generally refused to pay royal debts, and then "within 700 lard"
                1. anfil
                  anfil 20 January 2016 20: 22 New
                  +1
                  Quote: OldWiser
                  The Bolsheviks at one time generally refused to pay royal debts, and then "within 700 lard"


                  Only indemnity from Germany alone, which the Bolsheviks kindly refused more than blocked all the debts of Russia many times over. Only as a first installment, even before the reparation commission had begun to determine the size of payments, Germany had to pay and deliver goods worth 20 billion gold marks. This is not counting the redistribution of colonies, economic interests in China and so on. In addition, creditors confiscated all Russian property abroad, which alone cost almost more than debt. In short, for the creditor countries, the refusal of the Soviet government from debts was an extremely profitable enterprise.
              2. andj61
                andj61 19 January 2016 11: 41 New
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                Quote: SRC P-15
                Quote: Zoldat_A
                This is unlikely to happen. Because relations with Western banks will be ruined for a very, very long time.

                And the fact that Western banks deprived us of the opportunity to lend from them - is it their way to establish friendly relations? This is called an economic war, but in war all means are good!

                Here you need to very well calculate all the pros and cons. A kind of default in respect of resident banks of countries supporting sanctions is not a bad idea, only the consequences can be very, very unpleasant - up to toughening the conditions for granting loans to own firms trading with Russia. For such things, it is necessary to recreate our own sovereign monetary system so that anyone in the West or the desire of the US Federal Reserve does not respond to us with rising prices for goods for domestic consumption. In addition, it is simply necessary, apparently, to switch to a variant of a mobilization economy. There were a lot of options in the world - this was the Stalinist USSR of the late 20s and 30s, and Germany in the 30s, and the USA of the 30s and 40s.
                Just do not believe that the current government is able to do this ...
                1. Zoldat_A
                  Zoldat_A 19 January 2016 12: 00 New
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                  Quote: andj61
                  A kind of default in relation to resident banks of countries supporting sanctions - a good idea, That's just the consequences can be very, very unpleasant - until the tightening of the conditions for granting loans to their own companies trading with Russia.

                  In 1918, this has already been passed and experienced. Although the thought of such a bank default is being faked today, even if it does, it’s just drooling. It was already like that. Managed. Maybe, in fact, their banks would be engaged in business, and not just speculation and anti-Russian activities - led by the Central Bank and Naibullina personally ...
                  1. AlexW
                    AlexW 19 January 2016 20: 55 New
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                    The population has billions in stockings and under mattresses. It makes no sense to carry to banks - the percentage on deposits is lower than even the official inflation rate. If the government finds the strength and desire to guarantee the investment of its own people in the country's economy ... even if at a percentage slightly higher than inflation. And at the same time intermediary banks pass ... then what for then to us foreign investments? Under Stalin, voluntary-compulsory sale of bonds of the State loan was practiced. So far, even with the current rating of the President, IMHO is quite possible voluntarily. A clumsy attempt to get people's money is observed. The so-called Individual Investment Account has been declared - say, bring your money to the bank crash-bankers. But no one guarantees investments in IIS, and this is a scam
                2. asiat_61
                  asiat_61 19 January 2016 12: 53 New
                  +5
                  Is Germany sideways here? Money was stupidly pumped into Germany, and things started to go. And no economic miracle.
                  1. beer-youk
                    beer-youk 19 January 2016 15: 38 New
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                    Tiny correction. Money was pumped into the real sector of the German economy and things went. Upload to banks and get speculation and a full fifth point in the economy (as we have in 2008)!
                    1. AlexW
                      AlexW 19 January 2016 21: 04 New
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                      Direct investment for specific programs bypassing intermediary banks and the process will go. In addition, legislatively and by force to deal with the leakage of capital, excess profits of bankers-usurers. But under the current government and the Duma, this is perhaps a pipe dream.
                  2. andj61
                    andj61 19 January 2016 16: 32 New
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                    Quote: asiat_61
                    Is Germany sideways here? Money was stupidly pumped into Germany, and things started to go. And no economic miracle.

                    I wrote about Nazi Germany of the 30s, and not about Germany after the war. An example is not very successful - but it is a mobilization economy in its purest form. And it didn’t hurt her with money: the crisis of the end of '29 was real both in Europe and in the world only with the outbreak of war
                3. There are a lot of us
                  There are a lot of us 20 January 2016 08: 58 New
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                  Before the transition to a mobilization economy, the Government needs to give a kick. Is GDP capable of this?
              3. aleksey980
                aleksey980 19 January 2016 17: 43 New
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                Quote: SRC P-15
                And the fact that Western banks deprived us of the opportunity to lend from them - is it their way to establish friendly relations? This is called an economic war, but in war all means are good!

                They can afford it and take advantage of it. And so it will be until we have many thousands of parasites, producing nothing directly or indirectly, eating from these speculative feeders, by pumping money back and forth, charging interest. In essence, the quintessence of the so-called "modern economy" is not resource-production, but virtual, where money is made from money.
                I really want that for such speculative quasi-work the execution would work and work properly, but alas, these same parasites and rules write, so we (the people) will be slaves of the servants of the people.
            2. Cheshire
              Cheshire 19 January 2016 09: 12 New
              +7
              HSE works and kudrinskiy morsels sit in government like bark beetles

              their presence also confuses.
            3. user
              user 19 January 2016 09: 58 New
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              This is unlikely to happen. Because relations with Western banks will be ruined for a very, very long time.


              You might think that they are not spoiled right now or that Obama imposed sanctions at his discretion. There is an open financial war, while China and the Russian Federation, with the Anglo-Saxon financial system. Slowly introducing parallel banking structures, the yuan should become the reserve currency from October, the largest Asian countries (the Russian Federation, China, India, Pakistan, Iran - all are already part of or have the status of observer organizations) are going under the SCO flag, and they don’t even try to enter New Pacific Trade Partnership. Negotiations are ongoing or have already taken place regarding the supply of the S-400 to India, Pakistan, and the PRC, which will make most of Asia for the United States and its allies without a flight zone. So the confrontation has been going on for a long time, the only thing is that there is no open military clash and what is interesting, many countries today are revising the list of their allies and patrons, so the most interesting is ahead.
            4. ordinary
              ordinary 20 January 2016 18: 16 New
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              Well, you might think that our relations with the West are NOT spoiled and NOT for long ?!
          2. Belousov
            Belousov 19 January 2016 15: 21 New
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            Yeah, elephant-style elegance in a china shop or neighbors from Ruin, who also refuse to pay money. Our banks are engaged exclusively in transferring money from the West and vice versa, and no one will do anything against this course of things, because there astronomical amounts settle in offshore. Rather, Chubais will be shot than this cash flow is blocked.
            1. CTEPX
              CTEPX 19 January 2016 17: 32 New
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              Quote: Belousov
              Rather, Chubais will be shot than this cash flow is blocked.

              So, we will wait for the execution)).
          3. Belousov
            Belousov 19 January 2016 15: 21 New
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            Yeah, elephant-style elegance in a china shop or neighbors from Ruin, who also refuse to pay money. Our banks are engaged exclusively in transferring money from the West and vice versa, and no one will do anything against this course of things, because there astronomical amounts settle in offshore. Rather, Chubais will be shot than this cash flow is blocked.
        2. Spnsr
          Spnsr 19 January 2016 10: 27 New
          +4
          Quote: Baikal
          On the other hand - I did not find confirmation of this news.
          No serious news agency has yet published anything about this.
          Gentlemen - it is necessary to understand if this is not disinfect.

          or watch the "news" a year ago!
        3. hrapon
          hrapon 19 January 2016 11: 28 New
          +9
          Quote: Baikal
          On the other hand - I did not find confirmation of this news.
          No serious news agency has yet published anything about this.
          Gentlemen - it is necessary to understand if this is not disinfect.


          This is a duck. This is not the first time that AgoraVox has thrown in "dubious" or "not fresh news." This topic was exaggerated in 2014 (including on our forum) after the publication of an article by Paul Roberts Craig about "Putin's black swans." Then the debt was about 600 billion dollars.

          As of October 2015, the total external debt of the Russian Federation amounted to 538, 197 billion dollars. Over the year, decreased by 10,2%. According to the statement of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation, “the peak of debt obligations has been passed”, in 2016 the cost of servicing debt will be significantly reduced and will not be burdensome.

          Gold data also from 2014
          According to the Central Bank, since the beginning of 2015, gold reserves have grown from 38,8 million net troy ounces to 43,5 million. Thus, since the beginning of the year, Russia has purchased 4,7 million troy ounces of gold, or 146,1 tons. In September, 34 tons of gold were purchased - the maximum volume since September last year. Total reserves -1,3 thousand tons.

          In the current economic and political situation, there are no grounds for making decisions on declaring a moratorium on payments.
          1. hrapon
            hrapon 19 January 2016 11: 49 New
            +1
            Quote: hrapon
            . Total reserves -1,3 thousand tons.



            I specify: at 01.12.2015 - gold reserves in the Central Bank of the Russian Federation - 1,393 thousand tons. against 1,035 thousand tons at 01.01.2014
        4. Alexey-74
          Alexey-74 19 January 2016 11: 39 New
          +4
          I agree, while this is all behind-the-scenes talk .... Russia will be hard both at 16 and 17, but the Russians have become unaccustomed to the campaign, in general, it will show, there is a big game, but there is practically no information (official) .... we can only speculate
        5. iConst
          iConst 19 January 2016 19: 11 New
          -3
          Quote: Baikal
          On the other hand - I did not find confirmation of this news.
          No serious news agency has yet published anything about this.
          Gentlemen - it is necessary to understand if this is not disinfect.
          - Deza-not desa, but refusal to pay debts is called default.

          And now think - Putin will go for it or not.

          However, this is not the case. Our downed military plane - it was a general check. Russia did not pass it.

          False patriots - do not tear farts, but the truth is the truth.

          However, this is not the main thing - the main thing is that if you were knocked down, get up and hit in response.

          And in response - "your tomatoes, you know, we will not eat ..."

          I will add: if, within half an hour, the maximum request to the Turks about the shot down would be, an inadequate answer would be received - a no-fly zone over Turkey by all means and to shoot down military aircraft in spite of everything.
          Americanros would have done that - I give a tooth.

          Be calm - NATO would not get involved. They, as they would now say, this is your showdown.

          But time was lost and now such a scenario is not good. Neither the military nor the officials were prepared for such a scenario.
          1. Botanologist
            Botanologist 19 January 2016 20: 09 New
            +4
            Quote: iConst
            Our downed military plane - it was a general check. Russia did not pass it.


            Well, of course, we had to fight with Turkey, get in the face, take corpses of sodat to Russia - then we would pass the test. And everyone in the world would say - fools, of course, but brave.
            Maybe you’ll come up with a smarter script and a more realistic one, a connoisseur of general inspections?
            Quote: iConst
            if within half an hour a maximum of a request to the Turks about the shot down would be received an inadequate answer - a no-fly zone over Turkey by all means and to shoot down military aircraft no matter what.

            And by what means did you intend to introduce a no-fly zone within half an hour? 16 PU C-300? Or do you have the Death Star hidden in Latakia? So share it, otherwise we don’t know.
            And, by the way, tell us how you are going to defend the base in Latakia, which the whole Turkish army would have reached during the day? And she’s not Lithuanian, you won’t hold back a battalion of marines.
            Dreamer you.
            1. iConst
              iConst 19 January 2016 21: 02 New
              +2
              Botanologist, do you know what is the difference between American plumbing and ours?

              If both come to the basement and see a rusty 20-year-old faucet, the first one will replace this faucet, and our Vasya will say that he has stood for 20 years and will stand idle for ten more and hammer the bolt.

              And Murphy’s law is right there.

              And about your constellations - yes, maybe you're right. But the Turks harked at my soul.

              They rockets us, and we their tomatoes ... OK ...


              Ext .: I’ll explain about plumbers - I do not like Americans, but their attitude to the matter is much higher and better. Worked with them.

              And then, when this rusty faucet breaks with all the consequences, Vasya will stand and scratch his turnips with a gas key - who knew ...

              This I mean that the Americans in our place did not think, "well, I know." They would have - bombers fly undercover and that’s it!

              First, evaluate the situation, develop a plan "A", a plan "B" ... a plan of "I" and then don’t think about it - follow the situation.
              1. Botanologist
                Botanologist 19 January 2016 22: 16 New
                +4
                The Turks harked at everyone. But this is precisely what they sought - our hysteria and the beginning of hostilities against Turkey. If you were following the events, you know that there were 350 tanks and air defense systems deployed at the border, including Patriots from the USA. And the first launch of C-300 would lead to the fact that our air base would be carried out in two days. No options. But we didn’t want that, did we?


                As for the amers, I saw a couple of times the work of their plumbers in Texas. Our Vasya somehow copes better, because if the situation is abnormal, he does not leave. Well, if the tap is old ... what the hell is the American plumber changing it? If this is not in the order, he won’t even look at the crane. Maybe the crane has sentimental value for the owner.
        6. AlexW
          AlexW 19 January 2016 20: 43 New
          0
          Throw-in test ball. The marketing step is "demand study" :))) At the moment, the reaction of "sworn partners" is being studied.
      2. chikenous59
        chikenous59 19 January 2016 07: 11 New
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        Quote: Baikal
        Russian companies, both public and private, must suspend the payment of loans in excess of 700 billion, banks of states applying sanctions against Russia

        That will be SCHUKHER ...
        If they accept, it will be a kick to the whole west. laughing

        If there is such a kick, then get ready for war. These are no longer jokes for the West.
        1. afdjhbn67
          afdjhbn67 19 January 2016 08: 51 New
          +3
          Quote: chikenous59
          If there is such a kick, then get ready for war. These are no longer jokes for the West.

          Perhaps, but most likely the West will tighten in this case the sanctions following the example of Iran, the Kremlin would survive the current sanctions relatively calmly if it were not for the fall in oil and gas prices.
        2. cap
          cap 19 January 2016 09: 01 New
          +5
          Quote: chikenous59
          Quote: Baikal
          Russian companies, both public and private, must suspend the payment of loans in excess of 700 billion, banks of states applying sanctions against Russia

          That will be SCHUKHER ...
          If they accept, it will be a kick to the whole west. laughing

          If there is such a kick, then get ready for war. These are no longer jokes for the West.


          It sounds like a painfully familiar: "Without annexations and indemnities" Everyone knows the author. How it ended, too. I would like to believe that this will not come to the end. But such a throw, if any, will make many bankers in the west wonder if it is worth feeding their hawks.
        3. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 19 January 2016 09: 06 New
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          Quote: chikenous59
          If there is such a kick, then get ready for war. These are no longer jokes for the West.

          If you are talking about the economic, financial, political war, etc. - so she already goes. And if about the war in the normal sense of the word - so we are not Iraq and not Libya, so that it’s just that some kind of “coalition” could take the GDP and hang it without a trial, or some kind of “opposition” could drag the GDP around Moscow’s legs and pour sand into its wounds.

          The West is well aware of the consequences of the war with Russia and the United States, for example, they assess the consequences of such a war as "unacceptable" in terms of losses. And in Europe, with all due respect to them, they are not headless either. It’s one thing to “follow in the wake” and push up when they say it, and another thing - for other people's show-offs to be in danger of total destruction.

          The USA in recent history has always been afraid of us as the only country that is capable of physically destroy them. Not only that, nobody will do it for us, but we can destroy America also financially. Tomorrow forbid the circulation of the dollar in the Russian Federation (cash, cashless - anyone!) And the day after tomorrow dollars will be sold by weight, because we have these candy wrappers in cash in six(!) times more than in the USA and ALL, this mass will immediately be thrown onto the market. Naturally, nobody will scratch their change to gold in America - they have been quietly living in this area since the 72 year. And the day after tomorrow the whole world will see the price of this paper. And then America kirdyk - without a dollar it is not a country. And America knows this, it just can’t do anything - well, don’t start bombing Moscow! Yes, and the fleet in the Baltic Sea to enter indiscriminately somehow ...

          So it will not be worse than it is, we all already have nishtyaks from the West, and there will be no missile or any other normal war. Unless, as in the 2008-m Georgians, they will incite someone to check us for lice. For example, Porosenko will move the entire armada of his APU to Rostov ... laughing
          1. In search
            In search 19 January 2016 12: 28 New
            +2
            Zoldat_A

            "Tomorrow to ban the circulation of the dollar in the Russian Federation (cash, cashless - anyone!) And the day after tomorrow dollars will be sold by weight."

            Then the “black market” will appear, that's all.
            1. CTEPX
              CTEPX 19 January 2016 17: 38 New
              +3
              Quote: In search
              Then the “black market” will appear, that's all.

              Where, in fact, they will sell dollars "by weight")).
          2. Saffron
            Saffron 20 January 2016 15: 11 New
            0
            That’s for sure, the Europeans will not fight under any circumstances, because the outcome of the war for them implies a lot of losses, and they don’t want to get involved in dangerous showdowns or are weaned, the situation with attacks on THEIR women alone is worth it (everything, even cops stood aside). And as for the information in a possible moratorium on the return of 700 billion, it is necessary to make European countries think about whether it is worth aggravating the situation?
        4. 72jora72
          72jora72 19 January 2016 13: 52 New
          +1
          If there is such a kick, then get ready for war.
          Do you still convince yourself that it will carry?
      3. oblako
        oblako 19 January 2016 07: 11 New
        +4
        Russia's counter-sanctions are also aimed at changing the behavior of the “partners” ... hi
        1. afdjhbn67
          afdjhbn67 19 January 2016 08: 51 New
          +3
          Quote: oblako
          Russia's counter-sanctions are also aimed at changing the behavior of the “partners” ...

          They hardly noticed them ...
          1. Sirocco
            Sirocco 19 January 2016 10: 13 New
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            Quote: afdjhbn67
            They hardly noticed them ...

            Well, Kolya wouldn’t think so, sanctions are a double-edged sword, you can cut yourself on both sides. I think that EU farmers are not enthusiastic about the ban on the supply of their products, and suffice it to recall last year's strike in the EU with the pouring of milk, and the dumping of manure and other products.
            Now we go further, I have a question, who introduced sanctions (in the person of refugees) against the EU? I think this bunting will be enough for them for a long time, it is necessary for such a Trojan horse they planted.
            Well and most importantly, what I noticed was that everyone began to play each for himself, that in the EU, that the Turks, that the SA, Qatar, etc.
            Now about oil, it’s time to forget about this needle, and without doing balabolism (to the country's leadership), we will develop both agriculture and industry. It is enough to recall Tsarist Russia, then there were no these needles, and Russia earned about 80% of the budget on the agricultural farm.
            Since sanctions are good for our agricultural producer, let our grief drivers help them.
            In a war (and sanctions are war) why are our farmers and farmers in the West in the same conditions? Lower prices for fuels and lubricants, and electricity, interest-free loans, and let the EU deal with Pismetriya further.
            Something like this.
            1. sherp2015
              sherp2015 19 January 2016 11: 52 New
              +6
              Quote: Sirocco
              In a war (and sanctions are war) why are our farmers and farmers in the West in the same conditions? Lower prices for fuels and lubricants, and electricity, interest-free loans, and let the EU deal with Pismetriya further.


              Perhaps the most ... And indeed, to reduce the price of gas for the population at least once every 10
              1. Sirocco
                Sirocco 19 January 2016 11: 59 New
                +5
                Quote: sherp2015
                And in general, reduce the price of gas for the population at least once every 10

                All our business in Russia is built on the principle that everything will be recouped in one year, but better tomorrow laughing
                From this all the problems in all areas of our business.
                Well and one more obstacle, it does not want to earn on commodity circulation, a question why? Either there is not enough capacity for the production of fuels and lubricants, or, and so it will come, there’s no place to go, as they say people pick it up.
                PS
                Personally, I have reduced the cost of fuel and lubricants, horse price tags, well, where it is seen in our solar 37p80k.
                Legs, legs became more where you can reach.
                So, I can’t understand whether we are buying oil from someone, or we have them.
              2. Victor Demchenko
                Victor Demchenko 19 January 2016 13: 41 New
                +2
                today in the FSA gasoline costs 9 r per liter ...
                however, makes us think the actions of our government .... what
                1. CTEPX
                  CTEPX 19 January 2016 18: 03 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Victor Demchenko
                  today in the FSA gasoline costs 9 r per liter ...

                  United States - gasoline prices: We show prices from October 12, 2015 to January 18, 2016. The average price for a country during this period is 0.62 (US Dollar) with a minimum of 0.58 (US Dollar), 18 January -2016 years and no more than 0.68 (US Dollar), October 12-2015. For comparison, the average price of gasoline in the world for this period is 1.20 US Dollar. http://ru.globalpetrolprices.com/
                2. Vadim237
                  Vadim237 19 January 2016 19: 49 New
                  +1
                  This is because the tax we have on a liter of gasoline is 18 rubles - they go to the treasury.
            2. CTEPX
              CTEPX 19 January 2016 17: 51 New
              +4
              Quote: Sirocco
              Lower prices for fuels and lubricants, and electricity, interest-free loans, and let the EU deal with Pismetriya further.

              Actually, the difference between the real cost and the overestimated domestic price of energy, credit and land rent in Russia does not fall into the Russian budget. This is the tribute to which the traitors of the USSR signed us. The world is now balancing on the brink of war, not only because Russia is about to stop paying this tribute. Mainly due to the fact that the much-vaunted Western lifestyle does not even have enough to just stay afloat)).
          2. 33 Watcher
            33 Watcher 19 January 2016 10: 27 New
            +2
            They are yes. Their farmers have noticed, as always: "forelocks fight at the lackeys forelocks crack"
          3. Nyrobsky
            Nyrobsky 19 January 2016 11: 33 New
            +6
            Quote: afdjhbn67
            Quote: oblako
            Russia's counter-sanctions are also aimed at changing the behavior of the “partners” ...

            They hardly noticed them ...

            Vague doubts torment me)))
            Here on the copper, Victoria Nuland made a strange zigzag to Kaliningrad, where she met Surkov. The status of negotiators of the PTV through the US Foreign Ministry and the Russian Federation. "Talk" I talked for 6 hours! In anticipation of the meeting, Nuland was in a state of near nervous breakdown and sentenced the unpredictable unpredictable country and king "This unpredictable country and the unpredictable king."
            In addition to rumors and assumptions about what topics these two spoke, there is no specific information.
            However, after that, it was announced from the United States that the lifting of sanctions could take place as early as 2016.
            So it’s very likely that they’ve noticed the “answer option”, we simply don’t really know even 1/1000 of what ingredients are cooked in the political kitchen and what kind of bourd will be cooked in the end.
            1. Oldwiser
              Oldwiser 19 January 2016 11: 44 New
              +2
              Quote: Nyrobsky
              which burda will be cooked in the end

              And following the Iranian example, some sanctions are being lifted (for limiting the nuclear program), while others are already being prepared right away (for the development of missile delivery vehicles, Israel has already done it).
        2. Spnsr
          Spnsr 20 January 2016 16: 52 New
          0
          Quote: oblako
          Russia's counter-sanctions are also aimed at changing the behavior of the “partners” ... hi

          and not only partners! hi
          there used to be an iron curtain, now a currency curtain !!! laughing laughing laughing bully
          http://lifenews.ru/news/180775
      4. Pilgrim07
        Pilgrim07 19 January 2016 09: 44 New
        +1
        Yes, they can’t retype the number !!! what 700 billion !!! don't you understand the order of numbers at all?
        This is who in our country is so cool that he owed Western banks as much as 700 billion ??? Gazremy? - and for him it is a lot! Then who???
        1. 33 Watcher
          33 Watcher 19 January 2016 10: 29 New
          +2
          Almost all banks, all large corporations, but in recent years they invested only in credit projects in all projects.
          1. Oldwiser
            Oldwiser 19 January 2016 11: 47 New
            +2
            because equity is reserves and equity.
      5. Hon
        Hon 19 January 2016 10: 07 New
        0
        Quote: Baikal
        That will be SCHUKHER ...
        If they accept, it will be a kick to the whole west.

        to evil mom frostbitten ears. if banks worked only for the domestic market, and were not part of the global system, it would have been a ride, and so the losses would be incommensurable with the gain.
      6. alicante11
        alicante11 19 January 2016 12: 23 New
        +2
        If they accept, it will be a kick to the whole west laughing


        It will not be a “kick” - it will be a divorce with a crack of doors and a smashing of dishes. It seems that our elite is starting to bake. And quickly they got nervous, faster than the people.
      7. vladimirw
        vladimirw 19 January 2016 12: 38 New
        +1
        And whose loans are many whose they are? A debt securities of the United States of America again bought in 3 square meters. 2015
      8. Inq
        Inq 19 January 2016 15: 07 New
        0
        It will be a default, not a dudger. And if he is a schukher, then it’s as if we weren’t bigger than theirs.
      9. tacet
        tacet 19 January 2016 15: 13 New
        0
        It will be default a la Ukraine
      10. romõch
        romõch 19 January 2016 17: 06 New
        +2
        Quote: Baikal
        Russian companies, both state and private, must suspend the payment of loans in excess of 700 billion dollars to state banks applying sanctions against Russia
        That will be SCHUKHER ...
        If they accept, it will be a kick to the whole west.


        Forced to grieve: "This will not happen, because it will never happen" © ...
        Do not lose your sense of reality, please
      11. Vadim237
        Vadim237 19 January 2016 19: 44 New
        0
        If this happens, then our country may lose investment attractiveness, although investors can cheat and invest in Russia through third countries.
      12. bandabas
        bandabas 19 January 2016 21: 39 New
        +3
        Will not accept. And there won't be a kick. Look who rules our companies and where their relatives studied (work). Children, wives, brothers-in-law and so on. Do not cut the branch on which they sit. And who does not steer companies, but acquaintances rule. Example D.S. Peskov spokesman for the president. Not about the clock. Navka gave is her gift, earned (probably). But to boast in front of the country is ugly. A sign of natural plebeian.
      13. Evgtan
        Evgtan 20 January 2016 12: 19 New
        0
        I’m certainly not an economist, but the figure of 700 billion raises some doubts. Here is the data “Total external debt (private and federal sector) of the Russian Federation”, as of October 1, 2015 - 538,2 mln dollars. So this law doesn’t mean anything, as we paid debts, we’ll continue to pay until we get 700
    2. Skif83
      Skif83 19 January 2016 07: 57 New
      15
      Duck "saktsii" and introduced based on the actions of this particular Twitter government!
      Tupnyak, who defeated the "great" menagers, only bones.
      The people can endure a lot, you just need to turn to face it, and survive the sanctions.
      Only in the Kremlin, there seems to be no one to turn around ...
      1. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 19 January 2016 09: 17 New
        12
        Quote: Skif83
        Duck "saktsii" and introduced based on the actions of this particular Twitter government!
        Tupnyak, who defeated the "great" menagers, only bones. The people can endure a lot, you just need to turn to face it, and survive the sanctions.
        Only in the Kremlin, there seems to be no one to turn around ...

        I didn’t understand something - everything seems to be right, but there were minors ...

        The people can endure a lot, you just need to turn to face it, and survive the sanctions.
        It’s scary to imagine such a government in 1941 ... The Germans are 40 kilometers from Moscow, and they are getting oil from Baku - can anyone imagine this? For example, I can with the current government of the HSE fosterlings ... Once again, I don’t see the point of listing crimes against the country of our ministers, everything has been said a thousand times. But to say that our government is in front of the West, and to its own people with all that remains is to say nothing. Through one, one must judge for subversive activities in the interests of another state.
        1. CTEPX
          CTEPX 19 January 2016 18: 10 New
          +1
          Quote: Zoldat_A
          our government is in front of the West, and with our own people, all that remains

          Everything is somewhat worse)). To the people the government - before, leads with his hands. And to the West - backwards, and the pose matches.
    3. silver_roman
      silver_roman 19 January 2016 10: 56 New
      +1
      joking? belay liberals not only understand this, they contribute to this and contribute!
    4. 222222
      222222 19 January 2016 12: 38 New
      +6
      The moment of truth from 11 01 16 -RF on new types of weapons bypassed the United States for 15-20 years ..
    5. vodolaz
      vodolaz 19 January 2016 13: 52 New
      +3
      Quote: avvg
      Western sanctions against Russia have been introduced for a long time, everyone understands this, except for liberals in the government.

      Well, sanctions against us have never been lifted.
    6. gergi
      gergi 19 January 2016 18: 30 New
      0
      Liberasts understand everything and stuff their pockets. For them, Russia is a means to profit. Thieves, spies, saboteurs in power.
  2. parusnik
    parusnik 19 January 2016 06: 39 New
    +4
    All this means that no waiver of sanctions is expected in the near future.... And in the future as well .. under another president ..
    1. venaya
      venaya 19 January 2016 07: 25 New
      +9
      partner China openly doubted Russia's exit from the crisis while maintaining the Kremlin's existing economic policy

      They say that what is happening here is especially noticeable from far away, I think that the Chinese are absolutely right in this case.
    2. Aleksandr72
      Aleksandr72 19 January 2016 12: 07 New
      +4
      It is said so:
      The meaning of sanctions is not to punish someone, but to change the line of behavior. This is what happened with Iran: sanctions against it will soon be lifted in exchange for an agreement not to develop nuclear weapons. The diplomat expects a similar result in the case of Russia. This country, Fried is convinced, is starting to take the situation more seriously.

      Although in this case it is not believed from the word at all. Various kinds of sanctions imposed on Russia just the same pursue the goal of punishing both individuals and the whole country. I do not see anything personally indicating that these sanctions have fundamentally changed the line of behavior in favor of the West (I may take it for granted). And about the fact that Russia began to take the situation more seriously - evidence in the studio pli-and-and-and-s!
      And the sanctions were not taken to lift them, neither in the foreseeable future, nor ever. Sanctions will be canceled only if:
      1- if Russia fulfills all the requirements of the West and its masters from across the ocean. But this is impossible in principle for two reasons: firstly, the requests will grow all the time as they are “fulfilled”, and secondly, the fulfillment of these requirements means the loss of state sovereignty, both in foreign and domestic policies,
      2- if the West voluntarily goes to the lifting of sanctions for any good reason, such as the consolidation of earthlings to repel an alien attack, an apocalypse of anthropogenic or natural character (eruption of the Yellowstone volcano, etc.), a zombie uprising, etc. - these are all really possible reasons. Now about the fantastic ones: - under the influence of Russian counter-sanctions (which in fact act only on direct producers and suppliers of products) or simply of good will in order to reach a consensus with Russia - but I would not seriously consider these reasons, because see above is fantastic! wassat
      I have the honor.
  3. inkass_98
    inkass_98 19 January 2016 06: 42 New
    23
    On the example of Iran, everyone has already seen that the meaning of the sanctions lies in themselves - they lifted sanctions for nuclear production, but introduced for the development of missiles. So it’s absolutely on the drum what exactly Russia will do on the command of the Western “partners” - there will certainly be reasons for new restrictions.
    "We do not need smart people, faithful need" (C).
    1. Sirocco
      Sirocco 19 January 2016 10: 17 New
      +3
      Quote: inkass_98
      “We don’t need the smart, we need the faithful” (C) So it’s absolutely on the drum what exactly Russia will do on the command of the Western “partners”.

      Well, your post (all) is a worthy answer, an article.
      Briefly and clearly.
      As for me there is nothing more to discuss)))) good
  4. Tatar 174
    Tatar 174 19 January 2016 06: 44 New
    11
    Sanctions - they are useful because they teach not to trust blindly and not to shift the solution of their problems to someone. You have to solve your problems yourself. We are a big country and we can solve our problems ourselves, but we need to work hard. Sanctions are developing everything, science, industry with the production and production of food. It would be even better if the country had more opportunities for the accelerated development of its own industry and everything vital and important, it seems to me that this is the main task of both the government and the president, to create the conditions for this.
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 19 January 2016 06: 58 New
      -9
      Quote: Tartar 174
      We are a big country and we can solve our problems ourselves

      Listen, who are you anyway? Who are you????

      according to the bills, Russian companies, both public and private, must suspend the payment of loans in excess of $ 700 billion to state banks applying sanctions against Russia, as well as banks with branches in these countries
      You and people like you worse than column 5 will not even explain why.
      And there, in that article, your whole bed sits and yells everything is lost. Return there, there you will not be bored.
      1. faridg7
        faridg7 19 January 2016 12: 44 New
        +1
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        according to the bills, Russian companies, both public and private, must suspend the payment of loans in excess of $ 700 billion to state banks applying sanctions against Russia, as well as banks with branches in these countries

        Well, I don’t know what you didn’t like here, I didn’t like only the figure of 700 lard — I would leave only 700. Yes, the entire banking system will collapse, but the cancerous tumor cannot be partially removed — it must be removed completely, and the banking system is worse than cancer.
        1. faridg7
          faridg7 19 January 2016 17: 22 New
          +3
          Of course worse than cancer, in any case for Russia. Cancer is just killing. Parasites live at the expense of the owner, but do not kill. And these not only do they live at the expense of Russia, they are also drawn to collapse. At the same time, there are a lot of arguments that immediately without kirdyk. As it is now, the banking system in Russia is a kettlebell tied to the swimmer's legs. Instead of supporting production, we have a banking stranglehold.
        2. faridg7
          faridg7 19 January 2016 17: 22 New
          +2
          Of course worse than cancer, in any case for Russia. Cancer is just killing. Parasites live at the expense of the owner, but do not kill. And these not only do they live at the expense of Russia, they are also drawn to collapse. At the same time, there are a lot of arguments that immediately without kirdyk. As it is now, the banking system in Russia is a kettlebell tied to the swimmer's legs. Instead of supporting production, we have a banking stranglehold.
      2. Tatar 174
        Tatar 174 19 January 2016 12: 50 New
        +7
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Listen, who are you anyway? Who are you????

        What ???? Who are you?
        And for reckoning me to some column that is even worse than the fifth column to you, a fat minus ... all that I can, for now ... I won’t send anywhere, I won’t even explain why. But by the way ... I’ll say why, it seems you are already there.
  5. izya top
    izya top 19 January 2016 06: 47 New
    +5
    they didn’t introduce sanctions in order to cancel them. so, rather, we should forget about honest civilizers-democratizers. and remember the old testament, an eye for an eye am
  6. bad
    bad 19 January 2016 06: 48 New
    +4
    even the news with sanctions is tired of worse than "Santa Barbara" .. we lied on them .. on sanctions .. and on sanctioners too .. laughing
  7. ImPerts
    ImPerts 19 January 2016 06: 53 New
    +6
    And you ... so hot, what a shame!

    Now all the neighbors will say:

    "Vaska’s cat is crooked! Vaska’s cat is a thief!"
    .
    And Vaska de, not just in the kitchen,
    Do not let the yard,
    Like a greedy wolf in a shepherd:
    He’s spoiling, he’s a plague, he’s an ulcer of these places! "
    (And Vaska listens, but eats.)
    Here is my rhetorician, giving free rein to the flow,
    I did not find the end of moralizing.
    But what? While he sang him,
    Vaska’s cat ate all the fries.

    What are the Chinese doing? They calmly digest everything and everything. They listen, smile ... And digest. And we must also act with all our Western partners. You won’t be nice to everyone. Do not climb on the rampage, do not tear the shirt on yourself, but calmly wring your own)))
    1. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 19 January 2016 07: 01 New
      0
      Quote: ImPerts
      And you ... so hot, what a shame!

      Does the article have anything to say?
      1. Ruslan67
        Ruslan67 19 January 2016 07: 18 New
        +6
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Does the article have anything to say?

        Eeeeee what Aaaaa good Here request what else do you need a dog for? laughing
        1. Alexander Romanov
          Alexander Romanov 19 January 2016 07: 32 New
          -9
          Quote: Ruslan67
          what else do you need a dog for?

          Don’t bother, I’m chasing communists in Sait wassat
          Ruslan -spaaaaaaat smile
          1. Ruslan67
            Ruslan67 19 January 2016 07: 36 New
            +3
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Ruslan -spaaaaaaat

            One wife is enough for me am laughing drinks
          2. ImPerts
            ImPerts 19 January 2016 08: 02 New
            0
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            I'm chasing communists in Sait

            As soon as ipsation is not called ...
            1. Ruslan67
              Ruslan67 19 January 2016 08: 05 New
              +1
              Quote: ImPerts
              As soon as ipsation is not called ...

              A few more names can- I write yes laughing
              1. ImPerts
                ImPerts 19 January 2016 08: 36 New
                +1
                And slow down ?! drinks
            2. Oldwiser
              Oldwiser 19 January 2016 11: 56 New
              +1
              Besogon-TV branch? (chasing communists around the site - an analogue of the expulsion of demons?)
          3. andj61
            andj61 19 January 2016 11: 50 New
            +3
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Don’t bother, I’m chasing communists in Sait
            Ruslan -spaaaaaaat

            Damn, and even the Communists already with one letter "m" began to use - apparently, absolutely, there is no confidence in them! wassat
            In addition, Tatar seemed to have nothing to do with the Communists. request
            Or according to the principle - beat everyone so that the Communists - or kperefniki - are afraid? what

            hi
      2. ImPerts
        ImPerts 19 January 2016 08: 00 New
        0
        Quote: ImPerts
        And you ... so hot, what a shame!

        Now all the neighbors will say:

        "Vaska’s cat is crooked! Vaska’s cat is a thief!"
        .
        And Vaska de, not just in the kitchen,
        Do not let the yard,
        Like a greedy wolf in a shepherd:
        He’s spoiling, he’s a plague, he’s an ulcer of these places! "
        (And Vaska listens, but eats.)
        Here is my rhetorician, giving free rein to the flow,
        I did not find the end of moralizing.
        But what? While he sang him,
        Vaska’s cat ate all the fries.

        What are the Chinese doing? They calmly digest everything and everything. They listen, smile ... And digest. And we must also act with all our Western partners. You won’t be nice to everyone. Do not climb on the rampage, do not tear the shirt on yourself, but calmly wring your own)))
  8. S_Baykala
    S_Baykala 19 January 2016 07: 02 New
    +5
    Fried believes that today measures of economic influence often lead to a greater effect than the use of military force.

    Naturally: try to use military force against Russia in order to achieve some kind of effect (I wonder - what?), The whole effect will consist in a meeting of Russian tanks in your capital. And this is at best.
  9. Korsar4
    Korsar4 19 January 2016 07: 02 New
    +3
    The question is not only that debts may not be in a hurry to pay. And who and for what purpose did them. It was too expensive for us to have “friendship” with the West in the 90s.
  10. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 19 January 2016 07: 05 New
    +3
    crumbled in compliments to Europe, which came out with sanctions against Russia

    Interestingly, and Europe will also crumble in compliments of the United States for its losses from the sanctions imposed on it? Or will he still remember his national interests and independence from the political dictatorship of the United States?
  11. Nitarius
    Nitarius 19 January 2016 07: 07 New
    +4
    My opinion .. WE HAVE EVERYTHING! resources, people and potential! the longer the sanctions .. the more we WILL LIFT our potential! ... the government would only .. GIVE an incentive (incentive is to translate a stick for a bull with a sharp poke at the end to stimulate him in the field) and I think I’ll go!
  12. alex-cn
    alex-cn 19 January 2016 07: 09 New
    +3
    I’m not an economist, but isn’t the law on the cessation of payments to the shareholder banks actually sanctions (anti-sanctions) against them?
  13. Stinger
    Stinger 19 January 2016 07: 29 New
    +4
    A good answer would be to suspend debt payments to countries that have imposed sanctions against us. Since they have declared a serious attitude to sanctions. We must adopt this law, they say it is submitted to the State Duma. The goal is the same "not punishing anyone, but changing the line of his behavior." With a heavy hoof, kick in the face to the authors of the project.
  14. 33 Watcher
    33 Watcher 19 January 2016 07: 42 New
    +5
    Well, to be honest, I don’t understand much about these tricky macroeconomic combinations, but I understood one thing. Since they have brought into fashion, not to pay debts is 700 billion. This is more than 3 ... laughing In vain you are so, we certainly decent people, but there is a limit to everything. Like so?
  15. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 19 January 2016 07: 47 New
    +5
    Well, for starters, Russia’s corporate + state debt is already less. Therefore, this amount is not required. Secondly, the calculation of Western experts on the timing of which economy “kicks in” before — ours or Western — does not take into account the unpretentiousness of the Russian people. Living conditions that are quite tolerable for us - for any German - an occasion to fall into deep depression. And thirdly. Everything that streak-ears do, and their geyropeyskie litter, remind ant felting. They do not have a single plan, nor the strength for its implementation. They do something, look at the result, then again they do something, often the opposite. There is no feeling of overwhelming power. And the law on non-repayment of loans is a fake. More reminiscent of lawmaking. Therefore, from there and pulled a listen ...
    1. zadorin1974
      zadorin1974 19 January 2016 08: 39 New
      +4
      Good time, Evgeny. The article is murky, and the news on the account will not be fake. Announcing the suspension of the payment of debts for Russia will be a disaster, it will be the actual destruction of the authority of the STATE. And there is no difference what excuse we announce it to. the company will not conduct business without prepayment with us, and with export contracts only with full fulfillment of obligations. And now, the most interesting thing is, will it look west with tears in its eyes and wring its hands? Yes, they will immediately arrest all the assets of not only the state, but they will return their private companies and individuals with interest. and we have a civil massacre (at least). And all our prepayments and advances will be arrested. At the expense of buying gold, how do we buy it? Real gold? -when it is packaged and guarded to Russia and put in the guards. Or are we buying up bank gold again? Roughly speaking, are we buying gold obligations? Well, we have a fucking example of Europe with a gold reserve - gold from Germany has hundreds of tons, but they don’t even give deputies a look at it. Isn't that why our purchases are the principle. So, it’s not necessary to consider our president’s complete moron to do this.
  16. vadgen
    vadgen 19 January 2016 07: 49 New
    +4
    Some figures outdated in the article are given. Gold was acquired at the end of 2014, the 700 billion-dollar debt of private companies, too, if memory serves, was before the sanctions were imposed (after the introduction, we pay off all this time regularly)
  17. lotar
    lotar 19 January 2016 08: 00 New
    +1
    You can almost always get the most out of any situation, but the problem is that the current Minister of Finance and the head of the central bank are those stoppers who, in any even the most positive situation, get into a puddle. This is either low competence or targeted sabotage against the people and their country. A high percentage on loans, which if you take to develop your business, you will burn out rather than bring your business and your country to the leading position in the competitiveness of your products. If you help, we often riyatiyam who head face approximate to the government, that is, children and close relatives, as well as friends and comrades nynyshnih deputatov.Nadeyus officials and it is far from reality, and the reality of our businesses are developing more rapidly than previously.
    1. Saratoga833
      Saratoga833 19 January 2016 10: 01 New
      0
      Quote: lotar
      . I hope this is far from reality

      Not far away. And so it is!
  18. avva2012
    avva2012 19 January 2016 08: 06 New
    +6
    Our President said that Western sanctions are not legal, without the decision of the UN Security Council. Naturally, I am not a specialist in international law, so I accept it on faith. If this is so, then we may not pay the bills, "you do not comply with the law, we are symmetrical, too." The initiative is wonderful. Yes, and sell oil for gold, generally five!
    Alexander Romanov, but it’s possible not a modest question, “why are you pushing the Communists and why?” smile
  19. Viktor fm
    Viktor fm 19 January 2016 08: 06 New
    +2
    Russia is the most economically powerful country. And all these manipulations with sanctions, oil and the dollar are just a compulsion to sell our resources for nothing.
  20. Al_oriso
    Al_oriso 19 January 2016 08: 13 New
    +3
    Quote: Baikal
    On the other hand - I did not find confirmation of this news.
    No serious news agency has yet published anything about this.
    Gentlemen - it is necessary to understand if this is not disinfect.

    Two such super news could not be unnoticed.
    1. Oil is a long time sold for gold.
    2. Suspend payments on loans.
    The whole world should already talk about such a pirouette.
  21. Zomanus
    Zomanus 19 January 2016 08: 22 New
    +2
    Recently, Russia has repeatedly shown
    that can adequately respond to sanctions.
    So wait, see ...
    Now in the whole world difficult times have come,
    so a good life is not expected anyway in the near future.
    And at least we’ll fight on the diplomatic and economic field from the heart.
  22. Senior manager
    Senior manager 19 January 2016 08: 34 New
    +2
    However, this is called default. Bills are unlikely or affect individual customers, well, or an ordinary stuffing. Something like this.
    1. Fat
      Fat 19 January 2016 14: 44 New
      +1
      Rather, stuffing ... To return to the Russian Federation funds that are stored in the "wrong" banks ...
  23. ibu355yandex.ru
    ibu355yandex.ru 19 January 2016 08: 45 New
    +3
    It’s interesting what kind of “new Putin’s laws. The President of the Russian Federation submitted to the State Duma“ one of the most dangerous laws that the modern history of Russia knew ”.
    The St. Petersburg International Commodity Exchange opened. So it opened 4 or 5 years ago, and then closed ... What served as the reason was not advertised. There were rumors that the "American partners" had been begging, as their ruble was staggering ... But these are rumors, and in reality, God alone knows ...
    God grant that these "laws of Putin" were adopted and implemented! After all, our liberal government will not allow this!
    1. Saratoga833
      Saratoga833 19 January 2016 10: 10 New
      +2
      Quote: ibu355yandex.ru
      our liberal government will not allow this!

      So this government needs to be changed immediately!
  24. Neko75
    Neko75 19 January 2016 08: 50 New
    +1
    It comes to this. You need to answer tough. And if there is a loss in one place, you need to compensate from another channel, and even if there is such an opportunity. The liberal government, if that is possible and by cap. When much is at stake, no one will talk.
    Quote: ibu355yandex.ru
    So it opened as far back as 4 or 5 years ago, and then closed ... What served as the reason was not advertised. There were rumors that the "American partners" had been begging, as their ruble had staggered ... But these are rumors, and in reality, God alone knows ...

    It was so.
    1. Victor Demchenko
      Victor Demchenko 19 January 2016 13: 55 New
      +1
      Quote: Neko75
      Liberal government, if you can, and by cap

      not possible but necessary!
  25. Stalnov I.P.
    Stalnov I.P. 19 January 2016 08: 53 New
    +2
    Only stupid and mediocre "rotten eggs of the government" - the economic bloc do not understand that sanctions are for a long time. Here all professionalism revolves only around such words to divide and saw, create, create, multiply they are not given. BORN CRAWLING, CAN'T FLY.
  26. 31rus
    31rus 19 January 2016 08: 57 New
    +2
    Dear, sanctions will not be lifted, even more, they will continue to be introduced in critical sectors of the economy, it’s clear as a white day that you need, first of all, a flexible economic policy within the country, a reasonable policy in foreign markets, everything seems simple, but we only have a government , together with the president have not woken up yet, everyone is waiting for some kind of investment, some kind of lifting of sanctions, that they make mistakes one by one
  27. avva2012
    avva2012 19 January 2016 09: 06 New
    +1
    Quote: 31rus
    Yes, only we have a government, we haven’t woken up with the president yet, everyone is waiting for some kind of investment, some kind of lifting of sanctions, and they make mistakes one by one

    What if you’ve already woken up?
    Most, of those in the government, if that, fate is not enviable. I doubt their mental retardation. Greed, greed, but the instinct for self-preservation should work. Yes, and which Errorsdo you mean?
    1. 31rus
      31rus 19 January 2016 10: 30 New
      +2
      Mistakes, let’s start with the last ones, budget 2016, disastrous, where did the oil prices come from? Putin’s fear of letting new people into the country’s administration is better than stupid, but faithful, incompleteness of many years of initiated reforms, but it’s money and irritator of society, it’s clear about corruption, this is just the first thing that came to mind
      1. avva2012
        avva2012 19 January 2016 10: 45 New
        +1
        Well, corruption, everyone has it everywhere. Get food, cockroaches themselves will appear. At the expense of the "new people", but where do we come from, we know who is better, who is worse? "Cadres decide everything," but where to get them? It’s not easy to find an intelligent worker on earth, but even of such a level. It only seems that since Olympus, then everyone is a genius. There are enough bacchuses and priaps everywhere. About the budget of 2016, the year will end, then we'll see. Yes, and more he, i.e. budget, declarative document. How is water flowing through pipes, in which direction ... no
  28. engineer74
    engineer74 19 January 2016 09: 18 New
    0
    The French-language portal “AgoraVox” (source of translation - “InoTV”) believes that everything will be different, and counter-sanctions ...

    “Too good to be true!” (C) I don’t remember who said ...
    Besides AgoraVox, do you have other sources of information on this bill?
    Is there really not a single State Duma deputy on the site ??? belay
    The third day the whole Internet is discussing this stuffing !!! stop
  29. Cobra77
    Cobra77 19 January 2016 09: 36 New
    +3
    Another HPP? smile
    But seriously, there will be no laws prohibiting the payment of corporate debts to Western countries. Our "elite" of GDP will gobble up with giblets, even at the stage of discussion. And we will have the "Maidan". For the "Maidan" is not the will of the people, even the liberal, but the will of the "elites". Because such grandmothers and such prospects for the "elites" are at stake that it’s easier to start a civil war and fish in troubled waters than to lose almost everything that was plundered by excessive labor ....
    1. 33 Watcher
      33 Watcher 19 January 2016 10: 37 New
      +1
      Well, according to their “cunning” plans, a civil war should have been going on with us since '94, and the number of its outbreaks should increase every year. However, she is not.
  30. Cobra77
    Cobra77 19 January 2016 09: 42 New
    +1
    Quote: chikenous59
    Quote: Baikal
    Russian companies, both public and private, must suspend the payment of loans in excess of 700 billion, banks of states applying sanctions against Russia

    That will be SCHUKHER ...
    If they accept, it will be a kick to the whole west. laughing

    If there is such a kick, then get ready for war. These are no longer jokes for the West.


    But only to civil war or serious unrest. There will be no direct war. The risks there are excessive, and the benefits are not so high. It will be easier to negotiate with our "elites" and arrange a grandiose racket in the country in the manner of Ukraine.
  31. TOZ-34
    TOZ-34 19 January 2016 09: 55 New
    +2
    Something I did not hear about the sale of "for gold." Our media would scream about this “feint” day and night. Oil and gold are traded on a stock exchange under standard conditions.
    Another issue is the imposition of sanctions against opponents. And first of all, those financial institutions whose countries have imposed sanctions should suffer. The country imposed sanctions - until they are canceled, we do not repay debts. Governments will lift sanctions - financial institutions will receive debts.
    1. 33 Watcher
      33 Watcher 19 January 2016 10: 39 New
      0
      About the increase in gold reserves, they shouted ... But why solve the riddles, we will soon find out. Either stuffing or not ...
  32. Million
    Million 19 January 2016 10: 14 New
    +1
    Hope to the West, but don’t be bad. You must hang a poster in the State Duma
  33. fa2998
    fa2998 19 January 2016 10: 36 New
    +2
    Quote: Pilgrim07
    Yes, they can’t retype the number !!! what 700 billion !!! don't you understand the order of numbers at all?
    This is who in our country is so cool that he owed Western banks as much as 700 billion ??? Gazremy? - and for him it is a lot! Then who???

    Here we are talking about the fact that this figure is the total amount of all private companies, banks, joint-stock companies, and corporations (even with state ownership). I can recall that loans in Russia are expensive because of the Central Bank discount rate (recently it was 17%, now it’s smaller). In the USA it was 0%, now 0,25%. And they took loans in the West. They took it for years. Moreover, they paid only interest, and the main loan (body) was prolonged. Now, due to sanctions, Western banks demanded to return debts . hi
  34. runway
    runway 19 January 2016 10: 39 New
    +4
    Refusal to pay debts - recognition of bankruptcy.
    More recently, very many people did their best in this regard over Ukraine ....
    Now about the veracity of such a proposal. There is nothing surprising in this. At the disposal of the government (taking into account the assets placed in the West) about 400 billion dollars. Under current sanctions and the low cost of oil, the inflow of funds into the treasury decreased markedly. How long will this “airbag” last, even refusing external payments? At the same time, all our foreign real estate and bank accounts will be arrested and sold to pay debts. We will reach the summer. And there, as some visitors to the site advise, mushrooms and vegetables will ripen until the fall. Further more difficult. It is very easy to imagine a picture if banks have nothing to pay for their obligations.
  35. Dimon19661
    Dimon19661 19 January 2016 10: 54 New
    +3
    but we can destroy America also financially.


    Smiled))))
  36. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 19 January 2016 10: 55 New
    +3
    We need to survive. There are no other options. And make my own power work. If there is no money, then at least put things in order in the field of healthcare, medicine, housing and communal services. And our elite must live more modestly. And then a feast during some kind of plague.
    1. Fat
      Fat 19 January 2016 14: 58 New
      +1
      Yeah ... The size of bribes, kickbacks and thefts, sometimes just "touches" ... "This must be fought." Systemically. angry
  37. Mikhail Krapivin
    Mikhail Krapivin 19 January 2016 11: 04 New
    +1
    Our government needs to get used to the idea that sanctions are forever. And plan your and our life based on this simple thought. And it will immediately become easier for everyone to live. And then every day I come across headlines, such as - "The US promised to lift all sanctions by the end of the year!", With an optimistic comment by a deputy or minister, you ask yourself - are they idealists or is the diagnosis more serious?
  38. Robert Nevsky
    Robert Nevsky 19 January 2016 11: 20 New
    -1
    GO RUSSIA!!!
    1. Setrac
      Setrac 19 January 2016 21: 05 New
      +1
      Quote: Robert Nevsky
      GO RUSSIA!!!

      I wonder who put a plus for such a meaningless post?
  39. Elena2013
    Elena2013 19 January 2016 11: 28 New
    0
    Quote: Cheshire
    The denouement has to come sometime, and this decision is not the worst and rather elegant, in the style of GDP. hi

    This picture has been walking on the net for a long time, which can be perceived differently and interpreted differently. But still she is intriguing winked Maybe the new movie, The Fifth Wave, has just just been released ...
  40. Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 19 January 2016 11: 38 New
    +1
    It’s time to introduce a gold dime.
    1. aleksey980
      aleksey980 19 January 2016 19: 01 New
      0
      It seems that they talked about “Altyn” ... only it didn’t go beyond conversations and, most likely, it won’t. If, more precisely, when the buck is taken away, the yuan will be in its place (it won’t turn out only if a miraculous miracle happens and our rulers manage to do something based on a neutral gold unit), and if the Chinese “break loose”, then some time and have to fight with the yuan.
  41. Altona
    Altona 19 January 2016 12: 26 New
    +2
    The article surprises with the fact that the site’s observer undertakes to comment on Mr. Frid’s nonsense. I somehow can’t comment on nonsense without banter ... But now it’s the norm to analyze and comment on nonsense ...
  42. Yugan Oleg
    Yugan Oleg 19 January 2016 12: 43 New
    +2
    Complete nonsense in the style of Ur patriotism.
    If Putin sells oil for gold, don’t you explain where the dollars come from to pay on loans that have been accumulated as much as 700 yards? Google for interest, how much Lada Vesta consists of imported components, not to mention other brands. This will be a check in the head of our entire economy. Yes, do not be so naive - NOT EVERYTHING IS SIMPLE.
    PURE WATER EMPTY,
  43. Alexez
    Alexez 19 January 2016 12: 54 New
    +1
    It turns out that, according to the bills, Russian companies, both public and private, should suspend the payment of loans in excess of 700 billion dollars to state banks that apply sanctions against Russia, as well as to banks that have branches in these countries.

    I like how people who print articles freely know how to handle numbers - well, firstly, not "exceeding $ 700 billion," but still $ 538 billion at the time of October 01.10.2015, 538, and if you look at the dynamics, the debt decreases. Of these 32 state debt of the Russian Federation - 1,7, the state debt of the USSR - 504. Those. the debt of companies 700 and not stated in the article - "exceeding XNUMX". The figures are taken from official sources (http://www.cbr.ru/statistics/?PrtID=svs)! Now it’s interesting to look at who and how much should Banks - 139,9 billion Other sectors - 355 billion
    Conclusion - the real sector of the economy should half of the "above 700" - 50% of the truth or 50% of the lie ????
  44. Victor Demchenko
    Victor Demchenko 19 January 2016 13: 58 New
    +3
    you know, ladies and gentlemen, the forum users, but reading the comments it becomes sad from one thought: if we all present at the forum clearly see ways out of the crisis, and our government does not see it point blank, then there are two options: sorry
    1. either all of us are not completely smart at once and our place in ward No. 6 or
    2. The government just needs to be dispersed!
    1. Alexez
      Alexez 19 January 2016 14: 06 New
      -2
      There is also a third option - the government has a large amount of information and is able to influence processes in such a way that all these changes seem or are presented as natural.
    2. Pvi1206
      Pvi1206 19 January 2016 19: 07 New
      +1
      there may be a third option: the government has a different purpose than the people
  45. Bort radist
    Bort radist 19 January 2016 14: 36 New
    +1
    "The meaning of the sanctions is not to punish someone, but to change the line of behavior." This is not called the Cold War, but economic terrorism.
  46. Elena2013
    Elena2013 19 January 2016 14: 41 New
    +1
    Quote: OldWiser
    Besogon-TV branch? (chasing communists around the site - an analogue of the expulsion of demons?)

    Why not!? laughing
  47. Undermined ustoev
    Undermined ustoev 19 January 2016 15: 16 New
    -7
    Quote: Zoldat_A
    It’s scary to imagine such a government in 1941 ...

    It’s scary to imagine such citizens in 41. The army in a cauldron near Vyazma, Zhukov puts together a new front, and brave Soviet citizens water shit Kalinin, Molotov and other birds of high party flight in various forums and other virtual social platforms. And this, instead of going to the front to die, in order to transfer the war into a protracted phase, yes.
  48. JonnyT
    JonnyT 19 January 2016 16: 05 New
    0
    all this is a world-class performance.
  49. Denis Skiff
    Denis Skiff 19 January 2016 16: 11 New
    +1
    with the principles specified in Minsk deals,
    screwed how. directly in kind for the bazaar answer. Gopnik.

    in how could it be
  50. Belousov
    Belousov 19 January 2016 16: 38 New
    +1
    Refusal to pay debts means the complete absence of any foreign investment for many years to come. Here the problem is different, in that our liberals, under the auspices of Putin, do nothing for structural changes in the country's economy. Instead of thinking how to fill the budget, for example, Mr. Siluanov offers to cut spending, instead of providing low credit rates for business, Ms. Nabiullina blows up the rates supposedly to deal with currency speculators. And there are many such examples of openly sabotage activities against Russia. But the main thing is that Putin is satisfied with the work of the government, so think about who works in whose interests ...
    1. Avtopilot
      Avtopilot 19 January 2016 18: 20 New
      +2
      Putin himself called a liberal)))
    2. Setrac
      Setrac 19 January 2016 21: 09 New
      0
      Quote: Belousov
      Refusal to pay debts means the complete absence of any foreign investment for many years to come.

      Russia does not need foreign investment, what we need will not be sold to us, but what we sell will not be necessary to us, and why then do we need investment?