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In the EU and NATO puzzled by Ankara’s desire to have offensive weapons

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Ankara’s intention to create offensive missile systems caused concern among NATO allies and the European Union, reports RIA News Defense News post.




“NATO is puzzled by the desire of this ally to develop offensive missile weapons,” quotes the publication of a NATO representative in Ankara. “Turkey is part of the security umbrella.”

“We are not sure that there is any sense in Turkey’s attempts to obtain offensive weapons, (...) despite a well-founded sense of increased military threat in the region, he added.

The representative of the EU diplomatic mission in Ankara also expressed concern. “Such ambitions can stir up religious conflict in the region. The rocket rivalry between a NATO member and Iran is in any case an unpleasant prospect, ”he said.

According to European experts, often offensive missile systems "give preference to" rogue states ", since these weapons can carry warheads with a biological, chemical or nuclear weapon." However, "Turkey is not a rogue state, so its ambitions to build offensive missile systems are very curious," the British expert told the publication.

The agency recalls that in January, Ankara confirmed its intention to have rocket systems, having agreed that the cost and terms of creation weapons not yet determined. According to officials, at first, Turkey can take advantage of foreign technologies in this area.
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  1. The black
    The black 18 January 2016 08: 45
    21
    But the EU is not concerned about Turkey’s persistent attempts to join the union? ... but in vain ... laughing... They still did not understand the desire of the Zrdogan to revive the Ottoman Empire.
    1. cniza
      cniza 18 January 2016 08: 48
      +6
      Erdogan wants to restore a great empire, and E.S. and NATO is "surprised".
      1. meriem1
        meriem1 18 January 2016 08: 54
        13
        Quote: cniza
        Erdogan wants to restore a great empire, and E.S. and NATO is "surprised".


        They live in their own illusory world and do not want to see anything around ... except for profit there are no thoughts. And then they wonder how children ... "How is it so ???". The loss of intelligence among the ruling elites is obvious.
        1. Dembel77
          Dembel77 18 January 2016 09: 07
          +2
          Ankara’s intention to create offensive missile systems has caused concern among NATO allies and the European Union
          Worry about who will be the first of them to make money on the supply of these systems. Moreover, everything is already there - you only need a beautiful excuse like the "Russian threat".
          According to officials, at first, Turkey could use foreign technologies in this area.
          Well, clearly - by whose.
          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana 18 January 2016 12: 57
            +2
            Here's the thing.
            Turkey Erdogan PRIVATIZED (!), And the Turkish state works for him - to preserve his oil business, his oil wealth! Namely, in general, from the Turkish business on oil stolen in Syria and Iraq, only 10% of revenue came to the Turkish state itself. Everything else - 90% - fell into the private hands of Erdogan and his clan. Moreover, therefore, the Turkish power structures work for Erdogan as the president of Turkey, and not for the peoples of Turkey.
            Therefore, now Erdogan, as a losing gambler at the card table - he will either recoup or die! And he seeks to win back his business in losing the Daesh / Turkey war with Syria and Iraq. They are putting Turkey at stake (!) - and for the sake of saving primarily their Erdogan business and Co. There is nothing to do with the Ottoman Empire. Erdogan acts on the principle of “After me - at least a flood!” And there is little time for him to recoup. That's why Erdogan needs offensive missiles - and he MUST get them! Either buy for the last "grandmother" - or shoot himself!
            This is what the situation with Erdogan and Co. looks like.
      2. demo
        demo 18 January 2016 08: 59
        +7
        Then there can be no talk of joining the EU.
        Then the EU countries will join the Ottoman Empire,
        1. torkov66
          torkov66 18 January 2016 11: 43
          +6
          What a fright on the map Ukraine was formed ...
      3. Sirocco
        Sirocco 18 January 2016 09: 18
        +4
        Quote: cniza
        Erdogan wants to restore a great empire, and E.S. and NATO is "surprised".

        Well, what can we say about this desire of Erdogan?
        Take it on your own, so as not to bend when walking.
        But this is nice, but very.))))

        According to European experts, offensive missile systems are often "preferred by rogue states"

        Interesting experts, what is it, Russia is an outcast country? And others from the series "Great countries")))))
        I think that on the contrary, the country rogue trifles in its pockets, and is engaged in banditry, piracy. And powerful countries, both economically and politically, just create such weapons, so that the outcasts do not run into the wrong.
        Well, if on the topic, then I’m afraid that Erdogan will not have time to do anything, and these statements, from a series like Daesh, make air defense missiles. I think that the NATO partners will deliver the desired complexes to the Turks.
  2. izya top
    izya top 18 January 2016 08: 46
    +5
    often, offensive missile systems are "favored by rogue states"
    fool
    1. serg1970
      serg1970 18 January 2016 08: 53
      +5
      Yeah. Is it possible so about ovoy overseas boss?
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  3. Evgen_Vasilich
    Evgen_Vasilich 18 January 2016 08: 47
    +6
    Will they agree with Yuzhmash represented by the government? will buy Soviet technology and even more headaches in the region.
    1. PSih2097
      PSih2097 18 January 2016 08: 53
      +1
      Quote: Evgen_Vasilich
      Will they agree with Yuzhmash represented by the government? will buy Soviet technology and even more headaches in the region.

      there is no one to negotiate with there, almost everyone fled, and technology will not help much, they also need industry, which the Turks do not have and will not, they simply will not be allowed to engage in tactical missiles.
      And about YuzhMash ...
      The new chairman of the Dnipropetrovsk Regional State Administration, Valentin Reznichenko, however, knows how to save the "Production Association" Southern Machine-Building Plant "named after A. Makarov."

      Reznichenko believes that a real chance for the revival of the plant is the production of domestic tractors that will be competitive in the market.
      Valentin Reznichenko is ready to provide real assistance in obtaining working capital for Yuzhmash to establish production and increase the number of products, reports Dnipro Vecherny.

      “Firstly, it is necessary to improve the quality of their products to the level of their Belarusian colleagues,” Reznichenko believes. “I am confident that Ukrainian agricultural producers will buy Dnepropetrovsk tractors. Both municipal and city enterprises will be able to buy equipment. 4,5 tractors are a big market, ”said Valentin Reznichenko.

      Recall, Yuzhmash already produces a certain number of tractors and industrial equipment. Now, in the absence of orders for space technology, the enterprise will probably be reorganized into this production.
      1. your1970
        your1970 18 January 2016 12: 36
        0
        "we need to improve the quality of our products to the level of our Belarusian colleagues" belay what
        And I thought that "Belarus" is NOT the most perfect and reliable tractor, but here's what the SPACE (!!!) plant does not even reach this level ...
    2. meriem1
      meriem1 18 January 2016 08: 54
      +2
      They will buy from Ukraine !!!! That's what is dangerous!
      1. 33 Watcher
        33 Watcher 18 January 2016 09: 00
        +2
        What will they buy? Walls from "Yuzhmash", under a leaky roof ..?
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 18 January 2016 09: 52
          +2
          Copies of design, production and assembly documentation for projects and missiles.
          1. 33 Watcher
            33 Watcher 18 January 2016 12: 02
            0
            Since 1991, all NATO countries have access to this documentation; everything has long been sold. True, this documentation of the 80s, at best. But everything was still sold under Kravchuk, do not hesitate.
    3. Gormenghast
      Gormenghast 18 January 2016 11: 15
      +2
      The main source of leakage of Soviet technology to the west is, of course, Ukraine. Moreover, not the current, but in general. And they did just that.
  4. mpzss
    mpzss 18 January 2016 08: 53
    +3
    they just realized that their "allies" had thrown them once (after they shot down our attack aircraft) and realized that there was no need to rely on NATO, so they thought about a full-scale rearmament.
  5. ArcanAG
    ArcanAG 18 January 2016 08: 54
    +5
    Caliphate with missiles. The situation is more cheerful and cheerful.
  6. 33 Watcher
    33 Watcher 18 January 2016 08: 59
    +3
    However, "Turkey is not an outcast country, so its ambitions to create offensive missile systems are very curious," a British expert told the publication.

    Prepare to become, apparently. Erdogan understands what price Turkey will pay for the wealth of his family ..? laughing
  7. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 18 January 2016 09: 00
    0
    However, "Turkey is not an outcast country, so its ambitions to create offensive missile systems are very curious."

    Turkey in second place after the CA can claim for its actions to impose a sanction. If one of what Turkey is doing was done by another state that is not a NATO member, it would have been pounded by sanctions long ago. While NATO is "curious, the train may already be leaving."
  8. Vladimir 23rus
    Vladimir 23rus 18 January 2016 09: 10
    +3
    According to European experts, offensive missile systems are often "preferred by rogue states."
    Then the main "rogue state" is America laughing laughing laughing
    1. WUA 518
      WUA 518 18 January 2016 09: 24
      +2
      The EU and NATO are puzzled by Ankara’s desire to have offensive weapons.
      Strangely, they were somehow perplexed, after four years. in 1996-1999 The United States supplied Turkey with 120 ATACMS and 12 launchers. These missiles provide a range of 160 km with a warhead of 560 kg. In this case, the CVO is about 250 m.

      Currently, the main design center for the creation of ballistic missiles is the Turkish State Research Institute, which implements the project "Joker" (J-600T). Within the framework of this project, solid-fuel single-stage Yyldyrym I (Yelderam I) and Yyldyrim II (Yldarem II) were designed with a maximum range of 185 km and 300 km, respectively.

      At the beginning of 2012, at the meeting of the High Council of Technology (High Board of Technology), at the request of Turkish Prime Minister Recep Erdogan, it was decided to build ballistic missiles with a range of up to 2,5 thousand km. The director of the above-mentioned institute, Yusel Altinbasak, informed about this. In his opinion, the goal is achievable, since the ground tests of the rocket with a range of up to 500 km have already passed.

      In practice, it has not yet been possible to create a ballistic missile with a range of flight even up to 1,5 thousand km. Instead, in January 2013, it was decided to build a ballistic missile with a range of up to 800 km. The contract for its development was issued by TUBITAK-Sage, a branch of the State Research Institute TUBITAK. The prototype of this rocket is planned to be tested in the next two years.
  9. Gray 43
    Gray 43 18 January 2016 09: 27
    +1
    Who are the Turks going to attack? To Syria? - troublesome, can I get it on the ears, to Greece? NATO will not understand
  10. Voha_krim
    Voha_krim 18 January 2016 09: 42
    +3
    A little off topic, but it's time to run.

    Suomi back to the brand?
    When asked how much a liter of milk will cost in 2020, Finnish comedians now give three options: "three euros, three marks, three rubles."

    http://www.rg.ru/2016/01/18/finland.html
  11. chikenous59
    chikenous59 18 January 2016 10: 08
    0
    The desire to get offensive missile weapons is well founded.
    Why sit on the hook of NATO, when you can have your own. The question is whether it works, but this is a separate issue.
    It's just that the Turks have stronger bells and they do not hesitate to talk about their sovereignty, incl. and the military.
    Let's see how this desire ends.
  12. Zomanus
    Zomanus 18 January 2016 10: 33
    0
    Yes, Turkey just made a mistake that soon "everything against everyone" will be messy.
    And in order to at least keep your own in this mess, you need to arm yourself properly.
    Indeed, OPEC, the IMF, the UN and other structures will soon cease to exist.
    And then what will happen, FIG knows him. But conflict resolution rules are usually developed
    after the war.
  13. evge-malyshev
    evge-malyshev 18 January 2016 10: 59
    0
    Wow ... What a surprise ... We took care of Turkey's desire to have missile weapons. Is it really incomprehensible: the "Great" empire cannot do without him.
  14. Lelek
    Lelek 18 January 2016 11: 11
    0
    “NATO is puzzled by the desire of this ally to develop offensive missile weapons,” quotes the publication of a NATO representative in Ankara. “Turkey is part of the security umbrella.”

    Yes Yes. And the forest is so mysterious, and the forest is so thoughtful ... They deigned to "be puzzled", as if Turkey is not their right leg, through the uncontrolled steps of which, the body can get a big "baraum". A surgeon's office - only urgent amputation. bully
  15. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 18 January 2016 11: 16
    0
    Turks are unhappy that the Americans, according to the results of the Caribbean crisis, have deployed their medium-range missiles Thor.

    Now they wanted to have their own.
    1. The black
      The black 18 January 2016 11: 23
      +2
      On Wall Street, at the slightest suspicion of separatism, for the sake of their personal Ottoman ambitions, the fool is exchanged for a moment, and everyone who is unhappy from the alliance will shut their mouths because of nefig. laughing
  16. Great-grandfather of Zeus
    Great-grandfather of Zeus 18 January 2016 11: 26
    0
    An example of the two-facedness of American mongrels is something that bothers EU welcomes NATO.
  17. dckx
    dckx 18 January 2016 11: 53
    0
    Hypocrites, NATO is puzzled !!! They are preparing public opinion - "We are against." But in fact, they will be happy to help, if only the "scapegoat" in the person of the Turkish leader subscribes to its use, with the aim of inciting conflict in the region, so that Russia will definitely turn to active actions (With the plane, hopes were not justified, Goblins are over)
  18. BARKHAN
    BARKHAN 18 January 2016 12: 13
    +1
    You paid attention to the speed with which the whole planet has been arming recently. Even the latter are rogue and even buy something.
    But if everyone buys a huge number of fishing rods for themselves, then there’s a lot of fishing ahead ... This huge mass of weapons can work like the domino principle, when everything is against everyone. Almost every country has any complaints against its neighbors, and there’s a lot to solve them quickly temptation.
  19. Yeraz
    Yeraz 18 January 2016 13: 32
    0
    What is surprising is not clear. Iran has long-range missiles in the region.
    I don’t remember Saud, but they have Pakistani missiles. It would be foolish if Turkey sat and looked at the ceiling. 300 km is not enough, so the Turks will work on a new missile and they can do it.
    And why is NATO and the EU opposed. So everyone understands a strong Turkey, neither the EU nor NATO is needed, and Turkey will beat this