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Russia in the ring of enemies

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Russia in the ring of enemies



The modern confrontation between the West and Russia can, in fact, be assessed as Washington’s actions aimed at putting pressure on the destruction of the state, not completed in 1991, to the limit. history name of the USSR. What then stopped the United States, because they had the opportunity to finally crush the once strong enemy? Misunderstanding such a sudden overwhelming success? Fear of nuclear response weapons? Or maybe an underestimation of the enemy's potential for self-regeneration or any other reasons became the reason for this “under-supply”? But it does not matter. But another thing is important - Washington started the second round, realizing that the matter must be brought to the end and Carthage must be completely destroyed. Many military analysts point out that over the past decade and a half, the States have been striving hard to implement the strategic environment of Russia. Work is underway to divide Russian society along ethnic, religious and territorial lines. Moreover, the USA is the organizer of economic pressure on Russia, using all the levers they have. Washington is trying to draw Moscow into local military conflicts while solving a complex set of ideological, economic, political and military tasks. Now more than ever, Moscow needs to be careful and think about each step well, analyzing all its actions for possible consequences in the near and far future. To clarify my words, I offer a brief overview of the military-political situation that has developed so far along the Russian borders.

Polar region


When it comes to the northern borders of our state, in the imagination of open vast boundless arctic spaces, allowing to carry out an invasion from outside almost anywhere in the continental land. The US submarine fleet has the ability to operate in the entire Arctic Ocean. The Russian Arctic, in the long term, can be the scene of a serious confrontation because of its innumerable natural resources. If the northern maritime borders of the USSR, which converged in a triangle from the west and east at the North Pole, were not disputed, then Russia, the USSR’s successor, points to the existing international law of the sea, defining the notion of “territorial waters”, which is interpreted not in its favor.

In the Arctic, Russia's western neighbor, Norway, is part of NATO. On its territory are located military aircraft and radar stations of the alliance. To base aircraft and allied intelligence systems, primarily the United States, Norway provides its air bases and territory. Here, the alliance placed its large logistics centers and deployed a navigation system for fleet NATO. The Norwegian naval bases Ramsund, Trondenes, Sortland, which are located near the Russian border, provide their parking and docks for nuclear submarines in the United States and Great Britain.

Recently, the US has been actively deploying in Norway Tanks and armored personnel carriers. The question is why? The part of the land where the Norwegian-Russian border is located cannot be overcome by tanks, it is rugged terrain with many small rocks and placers of boulders, which are natural reliable anti-tank barriers. But to the south - Finnish territories are relatively passable for tanks, but Finland is not a member of the alliance, at least for now. Finnish borders may be transparent to NATO. But here, motorized formations cannot be deployed because of the terrain, it will be necessary to advance mainly in columns, if necessary, deploy in a battle formation to conduct local battles to a shallow depth. The main burden in such battles lies with the infantry, the American infantry is not adapted to operate in such conditions. This means that the calculation is made that there will be practically no defense lines here by the time of the intervention. The increase in the number of armored vehicles indicates the intention to conduct a ground operation, which is possible only if the "nuclear shield" of the Russian Federation is destroyed, which in itself is impossible, without mass betrayal. The Pentagon and US special services are apparently counting on the use of the scheme that they tested in Iraq in 2003, the impression is that they hope to repeat it in Russia. So it turns out that the armored vehicles stationed in Norway are designed to act after the collapse of Russia according to the Yugoslav scenario, in order to then complete the resistance of the disobedient groups of the population and the scattered remnants of the troops. The second option: all these weapons are just a window dress for influencing the Allies and justifying the huge costs incurred by the US military budget to the Capitol.

In the extreme east of the Arctic, the Russian and American lands are divided only by the Bering Strait, whose width is in the narrowest point of 86 km. But the transfer of ground forces to Chukotka will do little for the United States, both operatively and tactically, and strategically, they will simply be lost in the vastness of this vast region. Again, I remind you that this landing is possible only in the event of the complete destruction of Russia's strategic nuclear forces.

Moscow is conducting preemptive actions and is currently deploying a network of military bases in the Russian Arctic, which are subordinated to the newly created joint strategic command (USC) North, to which forces and assets are transferred from the Eastern and Central military districts. The Northern Fleet is also subordinate to it, and in its structure additional formations of land forces and air defense forces are completed.

BALTIC QUESTION



Syrian free army shells enemy positions. Reuters Photos

Finland is a relatively young independent state, which became so by the decision of the Bolsheviks who came to power in October 1917 in St. Petersburg. Then, during the four wars that Finland waged, first against the RSFSR, and then against the USSR, the modern Russian-Finnish border was formed. The initiator and occupier in the wars from 30 December 1918 th to 14 October 1920 th, and then after a short break from 6 November 1920 th to 21 March 1922, was Finland. The third war, which took place with a short break from 30 in November 1939 to 12 in March 1940, began the Soviet Union. And in the fourth war from 25 June 1941 to September 19 1944, Finland fought against the USSR on the side of Nazi Germany. In the postwar years, the government in Helsinki led a balanced policy toward its eastern neighbor, which cannot be said about what is happening now. So far, the relations between our countries do not cause much concern, but it is worth thinking about the statements of some Finnish politicians about the possibility of joining NATO.

Cases with the Baltic former Soviet republics are much more complicated. It should start with Estonia. It happened so that its eastern territories, these primordially Russian lands, including the ancient Russian city of Yuriev, which since 1920 was called Tartu, were occupied in 1918, not even by Estonians, but by the Finns with German support, but they were inherited by the newly created puppet state of Estonia. It is not clear why, in the future, the Soviet government headed by the Communists did not return these lands to the rightful owner, that is, Russia. Tallinn’s unfair policy towards the Russian population of these lands is doubly unfair if it is carried out by Estonians against the indigenous population. And now, as they say, "the train is gone." Modern Estonia is a member of the North Atlantic Alliance. Its army, as well as the armies of other former Soviet republics and countries of the former participants of the Warsaw Pact, militarily do not represent anything, for NATO they are more likely ballast than even bad participants. But the value of these countries is that, pursuing an unfriendly policy towards Russia, they have become a kind of ideological wall - an obstacle in establishing relations between our country and Europe. In addition, the United States was able to place troops in the territories of Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, create operational storage facilities for ammunition and military equipment, as well as master the theater of military operations in numerous exercises, formally attracting completely useless and inefficient Baltic states to them. And most importantly, the distance for NATO forces was significantly reduced to reach the main political centers of Russia in the event of an intervention, a little more than 100 km from St. Petersburg, and a little more than 600 km from the border town of Zilupe to Moscow. When deploying air defense and anti-missile defense systems on the territory of the Baltic states, NATO has an ephemeral, but still a chance to shoot down Russian ballistic intercontinental missiles at the initial stage of their flight and at launch, the fact is that after climbing and dividing warheads, there are no longer any opportunities. NATO also gets some advantages when deploying strategic offensive weapons in the Baltic countries.

Under the pretext that Russia allegedly threatens the territorial integrity of NATO members, Washington places armored vehicles on their territory, which can be used again only if Russia forfeits its “nuclear shield” and air defense and anti-missile defense forces. But even if we assume that the NATO forces succeeded in this and they won complete air supremacy, the combat capability of our ground forces and the stamina of the Russian soldier would cost the aggressor with irreplaceable, huge losses. Moreover, NATO will have to throw its best troops into battle in order not to lose the war on land, and to use the forces of the Baltic countries, Poland, Romania and other former members of the Warsaw Pact only for solving secondary tasks. Let me remind you that the Romanian and Hungarian troops who fought on the Eastern front of the Wehrmacht in the 1941 – 1945 war were not able to solve a single combat mission on their own and suffered disproportionately large losses than the Germans. Facts from recent history indicate the strength of the Polish soldier when the Polish army lost the Nazi Germany's war in one month in the 1939 year, showing complete incapacity.

UKRAINIAN WEDGE


The impossibility of direct deterrence of Russia by military methods, the necessity of which Pentagon generals have openly spoken for the past two years, forces Washington to act in a roundabout way in order to maintain its global domination. Hence the endless attempts to draw Russia, its main enemy, into the so-called proxies. The Ukrainian events are a direct confirmation of this, overseas intelligence services here, with the support of their politicians, worked very energetically, but they did not achieve their goal of forcing Russia to fight against the south-western neighbor. What contributed to the forces of the West plunge Ukraine into the state in which it is now?

At the end of the XIX century, the political leadership of Austria-Hungary began to implement the project "Ukraine", which was undertaken to divide the population of its border areas of northern Bukovina and Galicia with its related Little Russians, subjects of the Russian emperor. The following facts contributed to the success of this project: the Eastern Slavs of northern Bukovina and Galicia were not at odds with the Poles, especially with the Polish gentry, and Vienna acted as a defender of the rights of the peoples of this part of Russia, the second - the population had previously been converted to Uniatism, that is, there was some interfaith contradiction with the Orthodox Little Russians. Next, the German occupation authorities repeated this project, creating a puppet state of the UPR on the captured lands of Little Russia, which kept only on German bayonets and existed from April 29 to December 14 1918 of the year. After leaving the government of Hetman Skoropadsky from the political arena, power in the central and western Little Russia passed into the hands of the Directory. 1 November 1918 of the year in eastern Galicia was formed ZUNR, which became part of the UNR 22 January 1919 of the year. By October, the 1919 th Directory ceased to exist.

Simultaneously with the events described, the incomprehensible happened: the Bolsheviks also decided to implement their project Ukraine, which ended with the creation of the Ukrainian SSR, it was thanks to these actions of the Soviet government that three concepts were finally established: "Ukrainian Republic", "Ukrainian people" and "Ukrainian language". The first serious mistake of the Communists led to a number of others, as a result of which, at the time of secession from the USSR, Ukraine received vast territories that it could not rightly own, namely: Chernihiv and Kharkiv regions, Donbass, Kherson, Nikolaev and Odessa regions, Transcarpathia and Crimea. Speaking of the Crimea, the Black Sea coast and Bessarabia, Russia conquered them from Turkey at the end of the 18th century, and there was no idea that they would be transferred to another country, but this happened for a number of inexplicable reasons.

Moreover, thanks to the activity of the BKP (b), and then the CPSU after the collapse of the Union, Ukraine gained most of the military-industrial complex, the most developed industry in the USSR and the agrarian complex, the strongest raw material complex, the most powerful ground forces and not inferior to them by the Air Force, since Kiev had at its disposal military equipment, weapons and ammunition depots of Kiev and part of the Odessa military districts, the strongest in the USSR. As a result of the activities of Western intelligence services or other forces, it does not matter now, but after 25 years passed after the separation from the USSR, Ukraine turned into a bankrupt country with a completely collapsed army. It was in this field that the cereals that over the past decades have been intensively cultivated in this country by both local politicians and the well-wishers of the West have grown. Now for the American hawks, Ukraine is a magnificent base from which it is possible to wage an ideological, economic, political, informational, and possibly military offensive against Russia. The Americans in haste arm and train the militia, which the current Kiev pathetically calls the Armed Forces of Ukraine (APU). Since modern Ukraine has disowned its Soviet past, then it turns out that victories in the military way of the past of the Armed Forces of Ukraine cannot be seen, the most striking event, perhaps, is the participation of the Ukrainian SS volunteer division “Galicia” in the counter attack against the Wehrmacht 13 the advancing forces of the 1 of the Ukrainian Front, and it was 15 July 1944 of the year. This counterattack lasted half a day and choked, barely starting, and the German corps, together with Ukrainian volunteers, fell into the cauldron. For the rest of the time, the division had participated only in punitive operations and actions to destroy the Jewish people in the lands occupied by the Germans.

The experience of military operations in the Donbass indicates the weakness and lack of organization of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. The teachings of overseas instructors are of little help. Descendants of punishers, like their ancestors, are more convenient to engage in actions of intimidation against the civilian population than to fight on the battlefield. That is why they have such negative results in the war with the militia of the Russian-speaking population in the Donetsk and Lugansk regions. The Russian Supreme Commander Vladimir Putin noted very precisely: “It’s a shame for the Ukrainian authorities to lose to yesterday’s miners and tractor drivers.” Of course, Kiev temporary workers more convenient to lie that they are at war with Russia than to admit their weakness in the war against the people's militia. Moreover, it is not necessary to answer for this lie, and impunity, as is well known, corrupts. I have no doubt that the United States will squeeze out of Ukraine everything they can, will bring the game to some kind of lucrative limit, it’s no wonder they invest so much money and effort into it. It seems that Washington is not seeking to create a strong Ukrainian state. He needs a buffer unstable zone between Europe and Russia and a “poor freedom-loving nation,” allegedly oppressed by a powerful eastern neighbor, as a pretext for the possibility of further developing actions to contain Moscow.

A trailer for events in Ukraine can be considered a game around Transnistria. Here, Washington benefits from the ambitions of a militarily weak Romania, whose only defense is NATO membership. Over the past two decades, Bucharest has been carrying out plans for the absorption of Moldova and the annexation of Bessarabia and parts of northern Bukovina. The main trump card of the Romanians is that the annexed territories and their population will automatically become part of the European Union. What awaits the Russian-speaking citizens of Transnistria is easy to guess from the example of the Baltic countries and Ukraine. But Washington in this case mainly expects Russia to be drawn into the conflict with Europe with a kind of Moldovan mediation. Thus, the States, taking advantage of the situation created in Moldova and Ukraine, drive a reliable and long-lasting wedge between Brussels and Moscow. And only prudent, wise actions of the Russian political leadership can prevent this.

MIDDLE EAST GEOPOLITICAL GAMES

Middle Eastern affairs were only indirectly related to Russia until the Russian VKS began to launch rocket and bombing attacks on the positions and targets of the Islamic State (IG) recognized as a terrorist organization, which is banned in Russia) and other opposition groups in Syria.


American military instructors in the Ukrainian land. Reuters Photos

That phase of confrontation, which we are seeing now in the Middle East, began with the intervention of the United States and the coalition in Iraq in 2003. The fall of Saddam Hussein’s regime was followed by the actual secession of Iraqi Kurdistan and the emergence of Sunni resistance to the invaders, which was transformed over time into a terrorist movement that includes many separate underground organizations. Gradually, an interfaith confrontation of paramilitary militias of Sunni and other Islamic and near-Islam confessions arose in the region, which for some reason in Europe are indiscriminately recognized as Shiites. The situation was aggravated after the outbreak of an organized civil war in Syria. The apotheosis of all of the above was the emergence of the "Islamic state". Many experts note the purposeful activities of the US and British special services to create an environment of extreme instability in this region. All countries in the region, including Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Turkey and Iran, are to some extent involved in the military confrontation. I think that I’m not mistaken if I say that the United States did everything in their power to draw Russia into this war. You do not need to be a visionary to assume that the United States will continue its work to further draw Russia into the Middle East meat grinder in order to force it to make irreparable mistakes.

America in the region simultaneously solves several problems. First, the most obvious: the belligerent countries of the region are either already depleted, or their depletion is predicted in the near future. Thus, the US plans to increase its influence in the Middle East, forcing weakened states to seek support overseas. The second: squeezing their competitors from the region. Third: the weakening of the Allies to increase their dependence on the United States. The latter task is solved both by the involvement of European countries in the war, and by the organization of an influx of refugees from the countries of the Middle East into the European Union. That may well lead to harsh measures by European governments towards migrants. Further, predictable outbreaks of extreme mass discontent among the refugees, to which the local population will respond with spontaneous acts of violence, and in one “perfect moment” the situation can get out of control. As a consequence, we can expect the emergence of serious contradictions between the countries of the Middle East and Europe - an attractive prospect for the United States.

If an interfaith big war in the region does break out, it will be serious and for a long time. As you know, religious wars just do not fade. As an example from the history of Europe, one can cite the Thirty Years' War of the Protestants against the Catholics of 1618 – 1648. No need to look for examples in the distant past, after the collapse of Yugoslavia, the most bloody clashes occurred precisely on the basis of inter-religious discord between Orthodox Serbs, Croat Catholics, and Muslims. In fact, the flywheel of a major religious war between Sunnis and Shiites is now spinning in the Middle East. Riyadh stands at the head of the Sunni coalition, seeks to occupy the Ankara championship in it, and at the head of the Shiite coalition is Tehran. It is not clear to what extent this conflict can develop if it is not stopped now. It seems that Washington plays an important role in its unwinding.

Recent events in Yemen, Saudi Arabia, Iran and Iraq confirm this view. I would especially like to draw attention to the hostilities that have recently unfolded in the Iraqi province of Anbar. The fact is that the modern Iraqi army is a Shiite militia, and the designated province is inhabited by Sunni tribes that support the “Islamic State”, which is fighting in Iraq against Shiites, Kurds and coalition forces. On Sunni lands, Shiite Iraqi troops feel insecure, hence the unsuccessful attempt to seize the city of Ramadi and the futility of efforts to seize the entire province. In fact, we are witnessing the division of Iraq, and at the same time Syria according to national (if we are talking about Kurds) and confessional signs. In Syria, the Alawites, Shiites, and Ismailis act as a united front, with the support of part of the Christian militia in the fight against scattered units of the Sunni opposition, the largest of which is IG. All the variegated Sunni militia, without exception, has the support of Ankara, Riyadh and other Sunni Gulf countries. Moreover, an incomprehensible at first glance occurs: from the military aid of the West, the so-called moderate opposition gets a considerable part of those groups that are recognized by the West as extremist, including the Front al-Nusra and IG. Moreover, cases where military ammunition and equipment supplied from the United States and other coalition countries falls into the hands of extreme radicals occur with enviable periodicity and do not look like an accident.

The fact that the Turkish fighter shot down a Russian military aircraft over Syrian territory is a logical development of the events described. I do not doubt for a second that the US special services are behind this act. It is enough to understand who gets the most benefit from what happened. Russia and Turkey are clearly the losers. Erdogan overseas allies caught on the momentary need to win parliamentary elections, and he took this rash step, not looking ahead, which characterizes him not in the best way. What did Washington get? Firstly, a reliable wedge is driven in between Moscow and Ankara with the prospect of developing the existing differences in military operations. Secondly, on this basis, ethnic strife is fomented in Russia. There are more than 12 million Türkic-speaking citizens in our country, many sympathize with Turkey as a country with similar language and cultural and religious traditions. Therefore, the steps of the Russian leadership should now be more balanced than ever. In no case can you project the pernicious activity of the Turkish leadership on the whole people. And to prevent persecution and domestic phobia against Turkish citizens and organizations, including actions like the one that the Turkish consulate in Rostov-on-Don was subjected to. Activities to incite national hatred have already been deployed in social networks, agree not to add fuel to the fire. Undoubtedly, the reaction to the aggressive actions of the Turkish government should be quite tough, but, I repeat, it should not concern the Turkish people, otherwise there is a danger to play according to the plan that the overseas special services have prepared for Russia.

CENTRAL ASIA KNOT


Western media predict a worsening of the situation in Afghanistan in 2016, and this despite the huge US spending on weapons, training and maintaining the combat capability of the army and police forces. There is a general desertion among the security forces, and those who remain in the ranks are poorly motivated to fulfill their official duties. At the same time, militarized formations of the IG of the province of Khorasan (the formal province of IG covering the east of Iran, southern Turkestan, Afghanistan, and northern Pakistan) are gaining strength. If that insignificant military contingent of NATO, which remained to support Kabul, leaves the country, the proteges of the United States will not be in power for a long time. The only force opposing the IS in the region will be the Taliban movement. The situation in Afghanistan has some similarities with the Syrian one in that the region is multi-confessional. A return to power of the Taliban will not lead to peace, as it has been previously. But with this outcome, there is a chance that the war will not spread to the north of the Afghan border, moreover, the Taliban fought fairly hard with the production of opiates. On the contrary, the victory of "IG" in the region means the inevitable threat of expansion of radical Islamists to the north, including within the borders of the Russian Federation. But one thing pleases: here the States themselves are not interested in the development of the situation according to the worst scenario.

It must be admitted that Russia has no allies in Afghanistan. The most sensible right now will be to closely monitor the situation in this region, since it makes no sense to support a pro-American government, to establish relations with the Taliban is dangerous, it’s enough not to annoy them and go beyond preventive actions in the CSTO. In addition, it is useful to establish work with Iranian partners who have allies in Afghanistan.

RUSSIAN-JAPANESE CONTRADICTIONS

Japan’s territorial claims against Russia are getting tougher every year. Tokyo has long been trying to challenge the outcome of World War II. In particular, they require the transfer to their jurisdiction of the southern islands of the Kuril ridge: Iturup, Kunashir, Shikotan, Khabomai, as well as the southern part of Sakhalin Island. It would be wrong to make statements that Japan is ready to go by armed means. But, given that the self-defense forces of the Land of the Rising Sun have long turned into an impressive army and continue to improve and increase, and in September last year, the Japanese parliament passed a law allowing its troops to fight abroad, the possibility of using military force from Tokyo against neighbors became very likely . At present, the Japanese Self-Defense Forces comprise about 250 thousand personnel. Ground forces include five combined armies with a total strength of about 140 thousand people, have about 1000 tanks, the same number of armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles, more than 200 self-propelled guns, more than 1500 units of rocket and barreled artillery, including mortars, anti-aircraft and air defense systems. An army operates in the interests of the ground forces. aviation, which has about 500 helicopters for various purposes. The Japanese Air Force has more than 47 thousand personnel, is armed with about 760 aircraft and about 60 helicopters for various purposes. The fleet has 4 helicopter carriers, 40 destroyers of various classes, 6 frigates, 18 diesel-electric submarines of various classes, plus support ships and combat boats, which serve more than 45 thousand personnel. Such force cannot be ignored.

It is clear that Japan would hardly have allowed itself the statement of territorial claims without the approval of Washington. The United States has military bases in the Land of the Rising Sun and, in accordance with the treaty, will side with Tokyo, but only in the event of an enemy invading Japanese soil. In conflicts related to the territorial claims of Japan to its neighbors, America refuses to participate. Against this background, a slightly tense, but stable situation has developed between Moscow and Tokyo. There is no guarantee that it will not change.
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  1. prostofily
    prostofily 17 January 2016 16: 57
    -7
    Yes, swim.
    1. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 17 January 2016 17: 06
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      Russia in the ring of enemies

      The film "Viy" immediately comes to mind.
      1. Observer2014
        Observer2014 17 January 2016 17: 32
        +7
        "Status 6" for service! Yes, hurry up!
        And then you see, but hear smears! So quiet, quiet.
        Russia, you misunderstood us, and so on blah, blah, blah.
        1. Tatyana
          Tatyana 17 January 2016 18: 18
          13
          Thank you for the article! Everything is clear, short and nothing more.
        2. Altona
          Altona 17 January 2016 18: 38
          16
          Quote: Observer2014
          "Status 6" for service! Yes, hurry up!

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          In general, in any way, the United States should be the first to blame, without a leader all their allies do not represent anything. Not only because the United States has the most powerful military force, but also because the United States owns the entire military infrastructure — radars, command posts, communications and control centers, airfields, logistics centers, operational and transport capabilities in the form of offshore platforms and transport aircraft. Plus, of course, control of a missile defense system, operational and strategic nuclear weapons.
          1. 34 region
            34 region 17 January 2016 19: 03
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            Everything seems to be right about the military power of the United States. But! And how much do they use it? In my opinion, they mainly operate by economic methods of warfare. What about Iraq? And they, too, began to bomb Iraq with money, and the army sought resistance. US policy is the psychology of a bandit. Hire a killer, then remove the killer, make a profit. No need to invent ingenious moves in their politics. It is as simple as scrap. Minimum cost, maximum profit. All military operations are conducted in money. Take the outskirts. Did the USA move in tanks? No. On the bucks.
            1. Boos
              Boos 18 January 2016 13: 28
              0
              What about Yugoslavia?
          2. Observer2014
            Observer2014 17 January 2016 19: 56
            +1
            Dear "Altona"!
            Why immediately bring down !?
            After they "partners" and friends learned about "Status 6" The next 40 years at least there is no one to blame.
            WELL AND THEN !!!! "We will make a new" piece. For everything has already been invented.
            1. Altona
              Altona 17 January 2016 20: 35
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              Quote: Observer2014
              Dear "Altona"!
              Why immediately bring down !?
              After they "partners" and friends learned about "Status 6" The next 40 years at least there is no one to blame.
              WELL AND THEN !!!! "We will make a new" piece. For everything has already been invented.

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              I'm talking about a military scenario, and not literally from tomorrow. The United States simply needs to know that in the worst military scenario, they will be in the worst position as an adversary. On which all nuclear missile power will fall. But not as before, to pit Eurasia among themselves, to move planes and tanks there.
              1. CTEPX
                CTEPX 19 January 2016 15: 31
                +1
                Quote: Altona
                The United States simply needs to know that in the worst military scenario, they will be in the worst position as an adversary.

                The complication of the situation is that the United States is not independent in resolving geopolitical issues. The Anglo-Saxons, led by the Jewish elite, the United States - the chief of the General Staff.
          3. Mikhail Krapivin
            Mikhail Krapivin 17 January 2016 20: 11
            +1
            Quote: Altona
            Quote: Observer2014

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            In general, in any way, the United States should be the first to blame, without a leader all their allies do not represent anything.


            There are no questions, everything is correct. Just let’s do it - we hold, and you bring down !;) And then we kick everything together :)
        3. RDX
          RDX 17 January 2016 19: 42
          +4
          arrange "status 6", operation "San Andres")))
          1. bulvas
            bulvas 17 January 2016 20: 07
            -27 qualifying.
            Thanks to the Communists - first the Empire was destroyed, then the USSR

            It was impossible to trust these Bolsheviks
            1. Temples
              Temples 17 January 2016 21: 00
              34
              The empire was not destroyed by the Communists, but by creatures who would sell their mother to their mother for money.
              Kerensky, for example, was not a communist, but he ruined everything he could in the shortest possible time.
              And the Communists restored the country from the ashes.
              So you sing to the tune of American sir.
              Romanov disowned.
              The military oaths to Romanov and Russia threw both the first and the fatherland.
              So do not blame everything on the Communists.
              1. bulvas
                bulvas 17 January 2016 21: 36
                -27 qualifying.
                Quote: Temples
                So sing to the tune of American sir

                - the Communists always explained all their shoals
                and why exactly under the American?
                For your information, in Russia now the majority of the people do not respect the Communists, wake up.


                Quote: Temples
                The empire was not destroyed by the Communists, but by creatures who would sell their mother to their mother for money.

                - exactly so, Lenin, for German money

                Quote: Temples
                Kerensky, for example, was not a communist, but he ruined everything he could in the shortest possible time.

                - Kerensky surrendered vast territories to the Germans?
                Who issued and signed the Decree on Peace?


                Quote: Temples
                And the Communists restored the country from the ashes.


                - and who turned the country into this ashes?


                Quote: Temples
                So do not blame everything on the Communists.


                - And who do you think is to blame for the collapse of the USSR?
                Also an American pipe?
                Perhaps this merit was the merit, but who for all the years of the USSR could not ensure the normal life of people in the country?
                In your opinion, the merits and everything positive in the country are communists, and the shortcomings are American pipes?

                And who do you think raised Gorbachev and his comrades-in-arms, aren't they the Communists
                And where were the communists when Gorbachev did his job?

                And Yeltsin, from which party did he leave?

                1. 34 region
                  34 region 17 January 2016 22: 29
                  16
                  Do not grind nonsense. Lenin ruined Russia with German money? Lenin is a German spy who was shown in Soviet films, and not opened in the 90s. How could Lenin ruin Russia if it was in prisons, then in exile, then in exile? He did not hold any position affecting the fate of the country. Lenin himself called the Brest peace shameful. But otherwise it was impossible. Has he worked out German money with this world? And why then did the Germans attack after signing the peace? After all, Lenin fulfilled their conditions. Did Kerensky bring order to the country? And who demolished the royal symbolism in March? And on the car of which embassy did Kerensky run? But didn’t the power pass to the soldier committees under Kerensky? And why did the US give loans to Kerensky, but not Lenin?
                  1. bulvas
                    bulvas 18 January 2016 09: 54
                    -7
                    Quote: Region 34
                    Do not grind nonsense. Lenin ruined Russia with German money?


                    Ok let's forget the revolution and the 17th year

                    Why did they allow what happened in the 90s and, above all, the complete degradation of the country by the 90s, when no one (especially young people) wanted to continue communist rule?

                    Communist bonzes first grabbed state property and then privatized it.
                    The communist rulers of the republics were the first to destroy the country and gain unlimited power in the republics in order to take all the property of the former USSR to themselves.

                    It turns out that all that the communists brought up - these are thieves, are even worse than the bourgeois in the West (they provide workers with a normal salary), and all that the country could be proud of - scientists, specialists - fled from the country in horror, just as it was after the revolution in the 17th

                    1. Nikolay74
                      Nikolay74 18 January 2016 19: 22
                      +3
                      Quote: bulvas
                      It turns out that all that the communists brought up - these are thieves, are even worse than the bourgeois in the West (they provide workers with a normal salary), and all that the country could be proud of - scientists, specialists - fled from the country in horror, just as it was after the revolution in the 17th

                      But it was after the 17th year that "capital" began to acquire a "social face", and after WWII, this process accelerated even more, in spite of the USSR
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            2. LeftPers
              LeftPers 18 January 2016 17: 00
              10
              Is this a chewbacc with gaydarkin communists or something, or fuck with hangers-on ?.
              1. bulvas
                bulvas 18 January 2016 17: 44
                -8
                Quote: LeftPers
                Is this a chewbacc with gaydarkin communists or something, or fuck with hangers-on ?.



                First of all, many thousands of former party leaders and "red" directors (who were also not the last communists) in the field, who successfully and on time privatized enterprises, buildings, deposits and much more from the national economy

                And where do you think the 2nd economy in the world has gone?
                And where did the many thousands of new millionaires come from?
                Where in the world did the legends and fables about the "New Russians" buy islands, castles and so on come from?

                Something to my parents, who had been working at the same factory all their lives, no one allocated a piece of the factory, but the director and his sons opened a large company and set up supermarkets and shopping centers.

                Partorg somehow turned out to be the owner of a large workshop, quickly sold out equipment and organized bottling of alcohol there

                Apparently, at one time, he studied the materials of party congresses well, and so he gained the wisdom of the party

                Interestingly, Gorbachev also acted in a party way, when he handed over everything to Americans and British for miserable loans?

                He probably recalled his fathers - party members, who concluded the Brest Peace in the 18th year and decided to join the great ones?

                1. andrew42
                  andrew42 18 January 2016 20: 09
                  +9
                  Sorry for the harshness, but you have everything piled up in one heap: epochs, periods, communists, anti-communists. There is a desire not to disassemble "on the shelves", but like "all the bad things". Is it really unaware that anti-Russian forces in different periods have acted and are operating under different flags, hiding from time to time with diametrically opposite slogans? If a considerable part of the White emigres displeased, but recognized the merits of the Stalinists in the revival of "Empire", then where are you rolling the barrel? Unstructured management, mental warfare, substitution of the ruling elite - are these concepts familiar to you? If not, then take the trouble to study, to begin with. And the red flag, or the tricolor, or the two-headed eagle, is a different kind of thing, symbols that are strong in "cadres that decide everything." And without personnel, anything can be emasculated, vulgarized, and turned to harm.
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                  2. bulvas
                    bulvas 18 January 2016 20: 55
                    -7
                    Quote: andrew42
                    Sorry for the harshness, but you have everything piled up in one heap: epochs, periods, communists, anti-communists. There is a desire not to disassemble "on the shelves", but like "all the bad things". Is it really unaware that anti-Russian forces in different periods have acted and are operating under different flags, hiding from time to time with diametrically opposite slogans? If a considerable part of the White emigres displeased, but recognized the merits of the Stalinists in the revival of "Empire", then where are you rolling the barrel? Unstructured management, mental warfare, substitution of the ruling elite - are these concepts familiar to you? If not, then take the trouble to study, to begin with. And the red flag, or the tricolor, or the two-headed eagle, is a different kind of thing, symbols that are strong in "cadres that decide everything." And without personnel, anything can be emasculated, vulgarized, and turned to harm.


                    Dear, catch a woodpecker in the forest, tear off his head and do whatever you want with his brains.

                    And you just need to ventilate yours, so much rubbish there caused drafts

                    Communist demagogy is full, you want to look smart - just explain

                    WHY THE SOVIET UNION collapsed and such a wonderful CPSU perished (and, mainly, into commerce) fellow

                    1. CTEPX
                      CTEPX 19 January 2016 15: 43
                      -2
                      Quote: bulvas
                      WHY THE SOVIET UNION collapsed

                      Because, built in the USSR by 1980, state capitalism was called socialism)).
                2. CTEPX
                  CTEPX 19 January 2016 15: 38
                  +1
                  Quote: bulvas
                  many thousands of former party leaders and "red" directors (who were also not the last communists

                  Simply - they were not communists)). This is a favorite feature of the Anglo-Saxons - to replace the meaning of the word, turn it into its opposite. Carefully cultivate the facts of betrayal and promote traitors in power.
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      2. oldseaman1957
        oldseaman1957 17 January 2016 17: 33
        +1
        Quote: СРЦ П-15
        The film "Viy" immediately comes to mind.

        With us is the power of the cross!
        1. vladimirZ
          vladimirZ 17 January 2016 18: 05
          44
          Yes, swim.
          -prostofily (1)

          I would correct you. Yes, they "sailed". We, Russia, have “sailed” to the hardest geostrategic defeat.
          Sami, bringing the enemy in all directions to the heart of his state, surrendering all his strategic positions in the middle of Western Europe, dismissing the military bloc of his allies, turned into enemies, who surrendered the territory of their own state to the enemy without war.
          And the leaders of our country are guilty of this, first the traitor Judah Gorbachev with his team, then the drunkard and puppet of the USA Yeltsin with his gang of destroyers.
          And NONE of them appeared in court, they did not even condemn them morally. On the contrary, they were even awarded the highest post-Soviet Russian orders and honors.
          And the current leaders of Russia award their traitors with orders and honors ?! What is it like?
          How are we going to confront the enemy who wants to continue dividing Russia into another dozen two small warring states? With these leaders?
          I doubt that it will succeed. They defend not Russia, but their right to rob and enrich Russia. They do not need, by and large, the integrity of Russia. This is the logic of the ruling oligarchic-bureaucratic class.
          1. Talgat
            Talgat 17 January 2016 18: 21
            14
            Quote: vladimirZ
            They do not need, by and large, the integrity of Russia.


            Well, if you take the environment of GDP and himself, it still seems that they prevented the collapse of Russia and removed the seven-bankers from power after the 90's. Their foreign policy actions now seem to be correct too.

            Another thing is that domestic economic policy is liberal - yes.

            A quote from the article also: "... Middle Eastern affairs had only an indirect relationship to Russia until the moment when the Russian Aerospace Forces began to launch missile and bomb attacks on positions and objects of the" Islamic State "..."

            In fact, from the very beginning, the pressure and attack of the West and the United States against Syria and Iran still affected Russia and all of our Central Asia. Russia defends Syria to protect Iran. And Iran defends so that the aggressor does not pass through the corpse of Iran in the very heart of Eurasia - in the Caspian
            1. 34 region
              34 region 17 January 2016 18: 47
              25
              What begins the collapse of countries? With bribery of key figures. What did Putin do? Provided good salaries to management. Then he supported the security forces. If he betrays leadership, the army will support him. Support for the oligarchs? Apparently hoped that they would boost the economy. In my opinion, he has a direct religious belief in the high efficiency of private business. If they consider the Soviet economy gloomy and dilapidated. The growth of defense industry products? OK good. But if everyone will serve in the army and produce tanks, who will make the sausage? And if they impose 100% sanctions on everything? Is it not profitable for them? This is how to look. Middle Eastern affairs are not entirely indirect for Russia. Refugees flee to Europe. Are there people cultural and ethnic conflicts impossible? I think it is being prepared there. Are there NATO bases? In Chechnya, we also seem to have military units and weapons depots. NATO will flee and the weapons will go to the crowd. There will be gangs of Makhno. But there will be no economy. If Europe breaks out, will we trade with it? Are we trading a lot with the outskirts today? With Iraq? With Libya? Similarly, we will trade with Europe (in quotation marks).
              1. msm
                msm 19 January 2016 15: 21
                -2
                But if everyone will serve in the army and produce tanks, who will make the sausage?

                Sausage, we will arrive on the tank, and select.
            2. Wheel
              Wheel 17 January 2016 21: 49
              +5
              Quote: Talgat
              Well, if you take the environment of the GDP and himself, it still seems that they prevented the collapse of Russia and removed the seven-bankers from power after the 90s.

              I will not reveal a big secret if I say that it would be absolutely the same if the "seven bankers" completely seized power, eliminating the "family."
              Two bears do not live in the same den, however ...

              Everything is objective, any power after the 90s had to end the lawlessness, otherwise there would be nothing to own and nothing to rob.
          2. vlad66
            vlad66 17 January 2016 19: 07
            +9
            Quote: vladimirZ
            I would correct you. Yes, they "sailed". We, Russia, have “sailed” to the hardest geostrategic defeat.

            Excuse me, Vladimir don’t need to be so gloomy, we were retreating, retreating as in 1941 to the very heart of Russia, no further retreat. But even then we ended the war in the den of the enemy, and not immediately after all after a while. hi
            Quote: vladimirZ
            And the leaders of our country are guilty of this, first the traitor Judah Gorbachev with his team, then the drunkard and puppet of the USA Yeltsin with his gang of destroyers.

            Here I completely agree with you.
            Quote: vladimirZ
            And NONE of them appeared in court, they did not even condemn them morally. On the contrary, they were even awarded the highest post-Soviet Russian orders and honors.

            Well, one of them is already frying the frying pan in the pan, the other will soon sit in the pan. And what was not condemned, there’s a politicus.
          3. Maj.
            Maj. 17 January 2016 19: 43
            +7
            Vladimir, I agree with you. We have rubbish, and only a miracle can save us. Fuck knows what the authorities think and what. Russia is on the edge of the abyss thanks to Gorbachev, Yeltsin and others. Corruption has swallowed up all the power, including the prosecutor’s office, courts, defense, etc. And I doubt that someone is awake at night and is worried about how to save Russia .Pockets are piling up, the rod is all over the hill, the country is being plundered.
            1. Ami du peuple
              Ami du peuple 17 January 2016 20: 13
              +9
              Quote: major
              We have rubbish, and only a miracle can save us

              Quote: major
              Corruption has swallowed up all power including, prosecutors, courts, defense, etc.

              Quote: major
              Pockets are stuffed, the rod is all over the hill, the country is being plundered.

              Recently, such postulates have been voiced with frightening regularity. Moreover, just a few months ago, such whimpers could be heard only from representatives of the liberal minority. The bulk of the citizens chanted #Krymnash and supported the President’s policy.
              But now: "the case is rubbish," "corruption has swallowed everything," "the country is being plundered." Didn't this happen before? Or is it just problems that have suddenly been noticed when oil, followed by the ruble, falls down? When did the crisis touch its own precious skin? Or are there other reasons?
              I will not rant, but panic and depressive moods are growing in society - the first signs of mass psychosis. And such superchargers and all-propellers in every way contribute to this. Well, an unbalanced and hysterical crowd is much easier to manipulate and, as history shows, is not at all in its (crowd's) interests. We want to preserve ourselves and the country - for a start, we should be more calm about the surrounding reality.
              "Lord, give me the patience to accept what I cannot change, give me the strength to change what is possible, and give me the wisdom to learn to distinguish the first from the second."
              PS Russia is indeed in the ring of enemies and it is necessary to withstand this onslaught - it is also not easy for our sworn friends. Well, then, God willing, we will deal with internal (including high-ranking) enemies and traitors. It cannot be otherwise - our cause is just.
              "We are Russians, God is with us!"
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          4. prostofily
            prostofily 17 January 2016 23: 53
            -5
            I read three lines and then. Well, you yourself know everything about yourself.
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        2. svp67
          svp67 17 January 2016 18: 39
          +5
          Quote: oldseaman1957
          With us is the power of the cross!

          "Trust in God, but do not make a mistake yourself" Russian folk wisdom
        3. Altona
          Altona 17 January 2016 18: 39
          +5
          Quote: oldseaman1957
          With us is the power of the cross!

          -------------------
          And our armed forces, nuclear triad, navy and air fleet.
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 17 January 2016 18: 44
            17
            Quote: Altona
            And our armed forces, nuclear triad, navy and air fleet.

            These are fists. A head controls the fists. No matter how she failed. wink
            1. 34 region
              34 region 17 January 2016 19: 06
              13
              One head has already failed under the monastery. Gorbachev's head. And no army helped. There you have the allies. hi
        4. 222222
          222222 17 January 2016 19: 54
          +2
          Russia in the ring of enemies
          "" "ring? not even a horseshoe .. northern arctic ... India, China ... and some of NATO .. ​​And Europe itself is starting to wake up from American laxatives ..
      3. svp67
        svp67 17 January 2016 18: 38
        +2
        Quote: СРЦ П-15
        Russia in the ring of enemies

        Quote: СРЦ П-15
        The film "Viy" immediately comes to mind.

        Wii then Viem, but who will show me the "ring" ... There are segments of the ring, but it is not closed, and I very much hope that not only will it not close, but will also break into smaller and smaller segments ...
        1. SRC P-15
          SRC P-15 17 January 2016 18: 53
          +2
          Quote: svp67
          Wii then Viem, but who will show me the "ring" ... There are segments of the ring, but it is not closed, and I very much hope that not only will it not close, but will also break into smaller and smaller segments ...

          You are right, this is not a ring, but only its appearance and only from the oval office. But for us this can be considered an adornment of our foreign policy, but not a hoop pulling us together.
    2. cniza
      cniza 17 January 2016 17: 06
      13
      Quote: prostofily
      Yes, swim.



      God forbid, but if they decide to receive it in full, it will not be easy though.
      1. prostofily
        prostofily 17 January 2016 17: 16
        +1
        Well, even if it’s not simple, it will definitely be credited.
      2. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 17 January 2016 18: 13
        18
        Quote: cniza
        God forbid

        Exactly, God forbid. With our economy and Next generation, or as Trofim - Generation of Pepsi said, will we gain a lot? The army - yes, the last 2-3 years are on the rise, but at the expense of contractors and old developments. The same Armata is an object of the T-95 (there are fewer differences than coincidences - an uninhabited tower, an armored capsule for the crew, an X-shaped engine). The Ka-52, Mi-28 are the legacy of the USSR, like the T-50.
        Contractors - let's not build illusions: the guys in Syria are well paid. And that's okay, they MUST make good money! BUT! All this requires reserves of funds. How to provide mobilization? Where can we get them when oil prices fall? Only within the country. And here the question is - by what (by whom) will these funds be found? Nobody noticed the tightening of the "nuts"?
        "Our" government has long been "hinted" about the need to industrialize the economy, but things are still there.
        Back to my "favorite" topic, AvtoVAZ (I'm from Tolyatti). All rumors about the impending bankruptcy of the plant and the subsequent nationalization are nothing more than "chewing gum" for the people. In reality, they want to reduce the staff to 35 thousand people. (there were 127 thousand people) and send Boo Anderson to an honorable "link" to Izhevsk, blaming him all the blame. At the same time, they are building a HUGE "Economic Zone", with a bunch of jobs (!). ATTENTION - the main characters are GM, the American concern, and our state. And they, in spite of the sanctions, continue financing, with the one-stage financing of our state (50 billion rubles).
        And a bunch of questions arise. It's hard to blame GM for unpatriotism. This corporation has a huge influence on the US government, and is informed about the development vectors of various policy options. Accordingly, they know something. Otherwise, they would not have invested millions.
        I offer nothing but think. It seems that we are all ONLY ONE ATTENDANTS on the world show of magicians. I recall Strelkov’s words that Syria is just a magician’s gesture, the purpose of which is to divert attention from the discharge of Donbass (Murders of charismatic militia leaders, meeting Surkov-Nuland). I advise the thinking person to revise Strelkov, and to think over his forecasts, before hanging the labels of the all-protector on him.
        1. Koshak
          Koshak 17 January 2016 18: 28
          +2
          "It's hard to blame GM for unpatriotism"
          Well, yes: "what's good for GM is good for the US." Is it good for Russia, if bad, for example, for AvtoVAZ? And how effective are the local managers and in whose pocket? negative
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 17 January 2016 18: 39
            +2
            Quote: Koshak
            And how effective are the local managers and in whose pocket?

            And who put them, managers? GDP personally came to the VAZ before the sale of a controlling stake to the French. And money (state aid to VAZ) was allocated for the purchase of the Largus platform (Renault Dacha), moreover, before the transaction for the sale of shares (the same Renault). Strange, huh?
            P.S. According to a friend from Krasnodar, after the "snack" with Turkey, in Krasnodar there are many companies on the verge of bankruptcy. Accident? (Krasnodar - am I wrong?)
            1. CTEPX
              CTEPX 19 January 2016 16: 01
              0
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              And money (state aid to VAZ) was allocated for the purchase of the Largus platform (Renault Dacha)

              That's it)). This is precisely what our "partners" are trying to prevent - our acquisition of technology. For no money. Because we have any man - an engineer at heart)).
              1. Ingvar 72
                Ingvar 72 19 January 2016 21: 35
                0
                Quote: ctepx
                This is precisely what our "partners" are trying to prevent - our acquisition of technology.

                Then what is the point of buying technology (and they are not super-duper there) before selling the enterprise? Isn't the Chinese "formula" for technology introduction simpler? request
                1. CTEPX
                  CTEPX 20 January 2016 01: 06
                  0
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  Isn't the Chinese "formula" for technology introduction simpler?

                  Naturally easier. Moreover, the Americans do not bother with the theft of technology. It's just that they call it patent law)).
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  What is the point of buying technology (and they are not super-duper there) before selling the company?

                  Technology remains in Russia.
                  1. Ingvar 72
                    Ingvar 72 20 January 2016 09: 57
                    +1
                    Quote: ctepx
                    Technology remains in Russia.

                    At a Renault owned enterprise? belay
                    1. CTEPX
                      CTEPX 20 January 2016 10: 38
                      0
                      Quote: Ingvar 72
                      At a Renault owned enterprise?

                      Why not? This is not about free use. Today, there is a sanction ban on the sale of technology to Russia, and earlier there was an Johnson-Venik amendment. In this particular case, he (the ban) was overcome.
    3. Major Yurik
      Major Yurik 17 January 2016 17: 09
      10
      In 1991, there was still no servile power in Europe, and the happiness of owning priblu ... Baltic giants did not inspire optimism. As long as the worthy heads of Eurostates left, while the Yankees set up their paid euro-splashes with the help of pods and pods, Russia rose, gained military experience and a normal head of the country. While the Amerochruns rocked the Middle East and North Africa, time passed. The late race, the Yankees, now it will be painful and embarrassing if you take stupid things! am
    4. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov 17 January 2016 17: 13
      +9
      I don’t understand two things. 1) Why does the author, understanding the fact that the United States did not "conquer" Russia at the time of its greatest weakness in the 90s, considers it "unimportant now"? It doesn't fit so well with his post-communist bottling paradigm. 2) Why does the United States, wanting to use Ukraine as a springboard for the "conquest of Russia", support it so poorly financially, when it weakens before our eyes, while it will again fall under the patronage of its age-old big "brother"?
      1. g1v2
        g1v2 17 January 2016 17: 50
        13
        The United States thought that they had conquered Russia and simply waited WHEN THE NUCLEAR SHIELD WILL COLLAPS FROM DEPRECATED. IT IS ENOUGH TO READ FORECASTS OF AMERICAN ANALYTICS OF THE END OF THE 90S. The fact that the GDP will be able to save the country and return to it even the shaky title of the third superpower together with the USA and China has not been calculated. I perfectly remember what they said and wrote in the late 90s with us and in the west. The media wrote that the Russian Federation has been living out its last years, that at first the Caucasus will fall off from it, then Tatarstan and Bashkiria, and then all of Siberia. In general, all polls except urapatriots predicted a fierce scribe and decay. But, as always in our history, a tough leader came and united a decaying country. Personally, from the position of my knowledge of history, which I have been fond of since 4 years, GDP in the list of the best leaders of our people is in third place, after Ivan the Terrible and Stalin, but ahead of Peter the Great and Catherine the Second. I do not impose an opinion, but I think that if it weren’t for him, the country would have disintegrated further, like the USSR.
        But Ukraine does not support the United States simply because they understand that Russia has much more opportunities and options for action. They don’t like to invest in a failed project. Therefore, they invest exactly enough to keep dill under common control, but no more. To boost its economy, tens of billions of dollars are needed, which the United States does not have, and if there were any ways to use them without dill, there would be enough. NATO equipment requires a base, training and supplies, and most importantly time for all this. Plus, when switching to NATO standards, everything left by the union becomes a waste. Well, the arsenals of Poland and Bulgaria are not so large as to at least compensate for the losses of VSU, and much that VSU inherited from the union was not delivered to the Warsaw treaty. At the same time, our reserves of Soviet armored vehicles are huge. We can reimburse all technical losses without any special expenses.request And the mattresses do not catch bad chances.
        1. 34 region
          34 region 17 January 2016 19: 14
          +5
          Why should the US raise the economy of Ukraine? What's the point? Having destroyed Ukraine, they knocked out another country from the economy. Russia will no longer trade with it. Next in line is the European Union. When they knock it out, then it will be fun in general. Warring territories around Russia. And who will trade with? China and the USA. Does the rich gentleman want all the rich around him? The rich lord wants to be rich alone, and the rest beggars.
      2. Dembel77
        Dembel77 17 January 2016 17: 57
        +8
        Yes, everything is correct - the states will not directly attack. They will set their mongrel. But if the leadership of our country acts correctly and is not distracted by secondary dangers, then the chances of the West to draw us into the war will be very low. When a bear is hunted with dogs, a man with a gun stands aside and waits for a convenient moment to fire. If the bear breaks the hunter, then there will be no one to protect the dogs, which by that time will no longer pose any danger to him. Who the hunters will understand. Reasonable politics is the main thing! Do not be distracted by mongrel!
      3. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 17 January 2016 18: 05
        +2
        Quote: Denis Obukhov
        I don’t understand two things.

        just, "something went wrong" ... a fucking mentality ...
      4. afdjhbn67
        afdjhbn67 18 January 2016 07: 58
        +2
        Quote: Denis Obukhov
        I don’t understand two things.

        I agree with another interesting fact - the more the economy falls, the more enemies we have, why why ?? repeat
        All around are enemies ... but what about a successful foreign policy? Or create enemies, is it success now ??
      5. CTEPX
        CTEPX 19 January 2016 16: 11
        +1
        Quote: Denis Obukhov
        1) Why the author, understanding the fact that the United States did not "conquer" Russia

        Quote: Denis Obukhov
        2) Why the United States, wanting to use Ukraine

        Because - not the USA.
        An irreconcilable multi-century war is between the Anglo-Saxon world and the Russian world, between officials and scientists with soldiers, between the Atlanteans and the Arians, if you want)).
        And, in principle, the Anglo-Saxons, led by the Jewish elite, in today's situation, are close to defeat as never before in these seven hundred and a half years)).
  2. The black
    The black 17 January 2016 16: 57
    15
    Russia in the ring of enemies - the result of a failed foreign policy in the 90s
    1. Tra-ta-ta
      Tra-ta-ta 17 January 2016 17: 07
      15
      We have enough internal enemies ..

      1. Million
        Million 17 January 2016 17: 15
        +3
        What are you talking about! Medvedev has a lot of fans here who consider Dima almost Holy !!!
        1. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 17 January 2016 17: 55
          17
          Quote: Million
          What are you talking about! Medvedev has a lot of fans here who consider Dima almost Holy !!!

          Uh-huh. For whatever it takes - all the dance with time zones comes out. And he has "no complaints" about Taburetkin's activities.

          Brezhnev de Gaulle drove to Baikonur, showed him the start of a ballistic missile (Operation "Palm-1"), and the Americans drove Medvedev to Disneyland ... That's how politicians falter ...

          God be with him, with Medvedev - Russia withstood such rulers and wounds were healed! Before the world, it’s a shame for a badminton player - after all, the face of the state. Now, thank God, at least the second. But I do not want me, my children, my grandchildren to be ashamed of the country in which we live.

          I was never ashamed of the 3200000 of the Soviet Army, and I was not ashamed of the actions of TOGO government. Because with the Union in happy dreams, America could not imagine for itself what it now considers the norm of relations with us. And we began to break this norm - so their asshole tortured ...
          1. polkovnik manuch
            polkovnik manuch 18 January 2016 13: 09
            0
            Soldier -And, please accept my apologies, I liked the comment, I wanted to "plus". but I did it according to Chernomyrdin - "as always", sorry.
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      3. dedvladimir
        dedvladimir 18 January 2016 20: 25
        0
        The quality of life of the SOCIETY depends on the quality of GOVERNANCE. Therefore, I suggest EVERYONE not to "" "moan and cry", but to sign and "push" for consideration in the DUMA the PETITION "HOW TO CLEAN THE" DOOM "from the bureaucratic apparatus of management", which I started. I really need your support to launch a campaign to modernize the POWER ...
        Here is a link to it: link to www.change.org
        ESSENCE OF PETITION:
        I propose to force the DUMA to adopt the LAW on the creation of the “IMMUNE PROTECTION OF RUSSIA” system, which allows to form all levels of the “PYRAMID OF AUTHORITY” from reference honest professionals.
        Spend a little mental effort and website the author of "Grandfather Vladimir", first of all, read the PETITION and articles "How to create a system of" Immune defense of RUSSIA "," THE POWER OF MIND "," There is no democracy anywhere, but RUSSIA can become its stronghold ... ".
        In these articles, a variant of the elementary simple “SYSTEMS OF DISTINCTION” is shown, which allows quietly, without revolutions and upheavals, to exclude non-professionals and parasites from the AUTHORITY.
        PETITION is also published on the website in communities: "Life and Politics of RUSSIA", "SHIELD and SWORD", "Politics" and others, where you can sign <by clicking here>.
        1. msm
          msm 19 January 2016 15: 32
          0
          author "Grandfather Vladimir"

          Oh well. New Grishka Rasputin.
    2. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 17 January 2016 18: 47
      +1
      Quote: Black
      Russia in the ring of enemies - the result of a failed foreign policy in the 90s

      yah? and before you were in the ring of friends? (and who adds to the above comment, turn on "ISKCON" if available in the warehouse ... do not carry "wonderful" nonsense! fool Russia has always been envied, and always tried to pinch off, and always received on the hill, and will receive.
      1. The black
        The black 18 January 2016 07: 53
        +3
        well yes! And the Warsaw Pact countries, a socialist camp ..... Why did we lose them?. It was the treacherous policies of Gorbachev and Yeltsin that caused what happened.
    3. afdjhbn67
      afdjhbn67 18 January 2016 09: 10
      +1
      Quote: Black
      Russia in the ring of enemies - the result of a failed foreign policy in the 90s

      Come on, 2 years ago - solid partners and colleagues, what are you talking about ..
  3. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 17 January 2016 17: 05
    +3
    Once again, the same article came out two weeks .. wassat
  4. AdekvatNICK
    AdekvatNICK 17 January 2016 17: 07
    10
    My concept of global change is this: it’s very simple. The task of the United States is to quarrel everyone against everyone, but at the same time to quarrel them all with Russia.
    1. dorz
      dorz 17 January 2016 17: 44
      +8
      Quote: AdekvatNICK
      My concept of global change is this: it’s very simple. The task of the United States is to quarrel everyone against everyone, but at the same time to quarrel them all with Russia.

      It really worries Americans that 2% of the world's population own 20% of its natural wealth. Well, they really want to manage these natural resources, Russia is also the only country that can destroy the United States, the rest are nuclear powers only on paper, whose arsenal can be knocked out with one blow.
    2. I am human
      I am human 19 January 2016 07: 57
      +1
      As soon as one, transatlantic, enemy of all mankind is drowned, everyone will immediately become friends. Do we need them ???
  5. moskowit
    moskowit 17 January 2016 17: 08
    +9
    Operation Boa Rings is in full swing. The economic phase ends ...
    1. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 17 January 2016 18: 03
      +9
      Quote: moskowit
      Operation Boa Rings is in full swing. The economic phase ends ...

      Us for the first time, or what?

      Do they not understand there, in the West, that Russia can be torn and crushed only from within, as in 1991? That outside how many tanks you don’t put - everything ends with the same thing.

      We have enough people and resources for any reptile. If only the 1991 year again ... I hammered my grandson - if Yeltsin-2.0, it’s better to immediately take the machine into your hands ...
  6. rubidiy
    rubidiy 17 January 2016 17: 15
    10
    for the set-off attempt, but where is the conclusion? smile
    I started reading because of a very important question in the introduction "why didn't they finish it off?", Followed by well-known data about the environment of the Russian Federation and no conclusion. I hope the author will take the comment as good advice: at the beginning there should be a statement of the problem, then the review itself, and at the end a conclusion.
    1. cap
      cap 17 January 2016 20: 21
      +2
      Quote: rubidiy
      for the set-off attempt, but where is the conclusion? smile
      I started reading because of a very important question in the introduction "why didn't they finish it off?", Followed by well-known data about the environment of the Russian Federation and no conclusion. I hope the author will take the comment as good advice: at the beginning there should be a statement of the problem, then the review itself, and at the end a conclusion.

      That we actually demand more from the author. The article clearly and reasonably defines the stress points and as it seems nothing is missing. The conclusion begs one. The enemy, while conditional, acts deliberately placing his forces and assets (as well as his potential allies) in future theaters of operations.
      The goal. To receive as a prize for victory, first of all, a territory rich in resources and minerals, with their possible subsequent exploitation.
      So far, methods of political economic and informational influence are being used at the planned theater of operations. In particular, they are also fixed in military documents.
      An example of such instructions for one of the most combat-ready units of the US Army is the Marine Corps, in the new edition of which is written in black and white:
      Battle Manual 3-24. ... now it is called "Rebellions and the Suppression of Rebellions" (FM 3-24. Insurgencies and Countering Insurgencies). A new version of the charter offers ... US wishes for the future and is focused on the indirect (indirect) participation of the United States.
      The fight against the rebels begins with the help of the United States in need in a country.
      It is necessary to create “institutions of sustainable development” in the country to control the population, to carry out economic reforms and to assist in depriving the rebels of their freedom of movement.
      The primary goal is “political mobilization of the population”, which should begin to associate itself with the existing government.
      The audience is primarily provincial youth,
      which takes educational and political courses,
      including with the help of non-governmental and non-profit organizations,
      which should not look like foreign structures.
      In theory, these young people will occupy power positions over the years.
      Another goal is to achieve a stable and proper connection between the central government and local administrations.
      NGOs and NGOs must work not only with the elite or the intelligentsia, but also with the provincial population
      It is also proposed not to forget that influential emigrants can come in handy.
      The troops of the indicated KPM are subject to:
      Joseph Dunford, who has served as Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff since September 25, 2015, has become the highest ranking officer in the US Armed Forces. His predecessor, General Martin Dempsey, resigned on October 1, 2015.
      The boss was replaced recently. Everyone needs to make conclusions for himself.
      That something like this. hi
  7. sichevik
    sichevik 17 January 2016 17: 16
    12
    Yes, the author painted a gloomy picture. But it seems to me that he dramatizes everything very much. The devil is not so terrible as he is painted ... I remember in 1941 the gtiller brought almost all of Europe with him to us. And Czechs with Slovaks, and Magyars, and Romanians, and Italians with Spaniards, and how many Waffen SS men were. Norwegians, French, Swedes, Danes, Finns ... Not to mention their own, homegrown traitors. - Bandera, Vlasov, Kalmyk traitors. In the Crimea Tatars, in the Caucasus Chechens ... So what? And nothing. It was difficult, just incredibly difficult. But our grandfathers and fathers survived. And not only survived, but also ended the war in the very den of the beast. So if we have to fight (God forbid, of course), then we will stand. Not the first time the Russians beat all this Western evil spirits. It may be pathetic somehow it turned out, but believe me, this is not urya-patriotism. Just think out loud.
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 17 January 2016 18: 30
      +6
      Quote: sichevik
      I remember in 1941 the gtiller brought almost all of Europe with us

      From the outside we always beat enemies, but the internal ones ... request Remember the troubled times.
    2. gergi
      gergi 17 January 2016 20: 41
      +2
      I will add that the Americans did not stop trading with the accursed Hitler throughout the war. Salvage does not smell.
    3. CTEPX
      CTEPX 19 January 2016 16: 24
      0
      Quote: sichevik
      Not the first time the Russians beat all this Western evil spirits.

      It's a shame that the result of our victories over the past seven hundred years has always been - the cancellation of their debts by the Anglo-Saxons. Which is their only real purpose)).
  8. Kasym
    Kasym 17 January 2016 17: 17
    11
    In Afghanistan, there are a lot of those who studied in the USSR (by the way, about a thousand students now study in the Republic of Kazakhstan), there is a Tajik receiver, Masuda, and there is an Uzbek Dostum. The Taliban are at odds with the Islamic State; therefore, some joint actions can be coordinated. In addition to money, IS has nothing to offer the Afghans to entice to their side. And from grandmothers, the VKS takes care of them. IG can profit from drug trafficking and weapons.
    From Afghans, incl. The Taliban (they successfully fought drugs and who will need to be "friendly" to their neighbors for international legalization) are not in particular danger. Except perhaps some international. mercenaries (to attack the Central Asian country for money). So the fight against IS should be a priority for us. And here there is a lot of work for the Ministry of Foreign Affairs and the FSB - one cannot just watch closely. hi
    1. BaLaLaykin
      BaLaLaykin 17 January 2016 17: 25
      +3
      Afghanistan is heavily dependent on Pakistan, and Pakistan is dependent on the SA, the IS are created with the money of SA. So the Taliban and the IS are two ends of the same stick
      1. Kasym
        Kasym 17 January 2016 18: 23
        10
        For example, the Taliban's American trail can also be traced back to the 80s. But now the "boy" has grown out of his pants and popped against the owners. The Taliban are still local Pashtuns "students of madrasahs". And the IG are newcomers, and they do not take into account the places. traditions (Nauryz for example). Yes, and something "speak" about each other is not affectionate and shoot. Therefore, I write that the FSB (SVR or whatever service is there) needs to work. There are many local contacts. That Dostum is asking for weapons against IS, because he is not asking for money. And he has fighters, he has no experience. We don't need to go there, but we need to find "loyal" ones, we need to help with the organization and weapons. They don't ask for high-tech and expensive things. Then again, in a fire brigade, he does not want to "harness", but now everything is possible with "someone else's" hands. There is a "support" in logistics in the form of growing. bases in Tajikistan. Then, there are still very interested parties in the form of India and China, in a good way. But we still have the most extensive contacts in Afghanistan to win over to our side, and in extreme cases to build a "buffer" zone from our friendly supporters. hi
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 17 January 2016 19: 20
          +1
          Kasym, your "processor" is at the level! good hi
        2. BaLaLaykin
          BaLaLaykin 17 January 2016 20: 11
          0
          Americans would not be able to do anything without the support of the Saudis in this region. We should not go there at all, we need to negotiate with Pakistan, especially since we have something to offer them. We have been friends with India for too long, lately to our own expense. It's time change poles hi
  9. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 17 January 2016 17: 21
    +7
    They think that we are Carthage, we believe that they are Carthage ... And they seriously pedal that they have Carthage more. If one of the Carthaginians dies, the world seems like a sheepskin to the other, if you don’t kill Indians and rob Africa, well, we don’t need you either. Walk, you know, in Texas after the Victory and brains, rule this exceptional one, thank you, for scrap, a nightmare.
  10. Yuri Y.
    Yuri Y. 17 January 2016 17: 22
    +8
    What stopped the USA then, because they had the opportunity to finally crush the once strong enemy?

    I think that they wanted to use us against China. At one time, it was actively discussed that China is a natural adversary. We have the entire industry poher but with a small army and nuclear warheads, we are under external control. All to fight the enemy. For the army, something would be allocated. Copy of current Ukraine. If divided, then for example one Khabarovsk Territory or Chukotka clearly will not pull. And under their control, why should they be afraid. But then Putin happened.
    1. iliitchitch
      iliitchitch 17 January 2016 19: 19
      +6
      Quote: Yuri Ya.
      But then Putin happened.


      We were sawed back in 92, a colleague. Smolensk to tall French Poles, Khabarovsk to Nippons, Krasnoyarsk to Canada in general. And as their chainsaw began to glitch (the KGB intervened!), It was so expensive to watch! The brazen Euro-proshtatovskys broke off, the instinct of self-preservation of our nation worked. Scold, do not scold the authorities, but the country is preserved.
      1. Yuri Y.
        Yuri Y. 19 January 2016 00: 18
        0
        Quote: iliitch
        The KGB intervened!

        Surely. I don’t remember who Smolensk or Khabarovsk was supposed to be, but disputed issues were quickly resolved with the Chinese. Although not without some losses.
  11. Evgesh91
    Evgesh91 17 January 2016 17: 29
    +9
    Russia in the ring of enemies as if once it was otherwise ...
    another question is that the ring has narrowed, thanks to a couple of decades of weak foreign policy
  12. karevik
    karevik 17 January 2016 17: 30
    +3
    I repeat once again! It is necessary to show all our enemies with the example of Kiev that we will get them everywhere! Therefore, a missile attack on the Rada or on the Jamilites who moved our enemies in the Kherson region is a ripe necessity .. Neither the states nor NATO dare to act against us. Both we and they will perish!
    I'm sorry about Putin !! Whenever possible, Medvedev and all other friends will hand him over. After all, they have something to lose if, in a serious matter, they support Putin. One assistant chess player Medvedev is worth it! On his face it is written that he is Judas. It is a pity that Putin believes them! And Medvedev is just a woman in his pants!
    1. iliitchitch
      iliitchitch 17 January 2016 18: 26
      0
      Quote: karevik
      Create huge nuclear land mines near the borders of our enemies and warn that they will be blown up when attacking us! Both we and they will perish!


      Wow. Huge nuclear why? A thermonuclear pit is small, so let a large land mine? And why explode with enemies if you can survive? Unclear . They, poor fellows, are already afraid of us, and then I still have to offer landmines to measure, I don’t know ... Their psychopaths will have more work in their psycho rooms.
    2. gergi
      gergi 17 January 2016 20: 37
      0
      Do not offend LADY. He is already offended by Kudrin.
  13. 1536
    1536 17 January 2016 17: 31
    0
    Quote: Million
    What are you talking about! Medvedev has a lot of fans here who consider Dima almost Holy !!!


    Yeah, a kind of "Nicholas II", which, as you know, was the last ...
  14. choice
    choice 17 January 2016 17: 33
    +4
    Nothing compressible, of course it will be very difficult, but where ours did not disappear angry
  15. samarin1969
    samarin1969 17 January 2016 17: 34
    +9
    The confrontation of the KREMLIN and the USA is illusory ...
    Kremlin bonuses are more like Semiboyarshchina (in the head there are only forums, investors, gesheft ...)
    The riches of Russia - attract West and South like hot blood of vampires ...
    Hope for the Russian spirit, character ...
    And those "surrounding" Russia have many problems and wars of their own ...
  16. thinker
    thinker 17 January 2016 17: 35
    17
    There is not enough visual aid.
    1. RUS69
      RUS69 17 January 2016 17: 45
      +8
      Nothing we have enough shells for all.
      Not in vain ammunition depots begin to be built throughout the Russian Federation.
    2. iliitchitch
      iliitchitch 17 January 2016 19: 50
      11
      Quote: thinker
      There is not enough visual aid.


      Found in the topic, a colleague:
      1. Dmitry Volodin
        Dmitry Volodin 17 January 2016 23: 32
        -1
        Good joke! good Maybe not a joke ...
  17. Fonmeg
    Fonmeg 17 January 2016 17: 47
    +3
    The Pentagon and US special services are apparently counting on using the scheme that they tested in Iraq in 2003, the impression is that they hope to repeat it in Russia.


    These ur **** do not take into account only one thing, that Russia is not Iraq, but Russians are Russians! There were plenty of people wishing to come to us with a sword, where they are known, so who wants to die, please!
    1. iliitchitch
      iliitchitch 18 January 2016 02: 11
      0
      Quote: Fonmeg
      where are they known


      Whoever comes to us with a sword will become a dandelion. The meaning is deep in these words. Since childhood, I wondered how we got so many dandelions in the spring.
  18. Sinecote
    Sinecote 17 January 2016 17: 47
    +3
    Quote: samarin1969

    The riches of Russia - attract West and South like hot blood of vampires

    Yes, and the east too. Japan, for example.
  19. Sinecote
    Sinecote 17 January 2016 17: 55
    +7
    It does not seem fair to the Americans that in Russia there are so many riches and so few people who can use these riches. They would shed so much blood, and would lose as many lives as they did for Russia, then they would talk. In the meantime, do not open your mouth to someone else’s honey.
    1. gergi
      gergi 17 January 2016 20: 34
      +1
      They shed blood over our, alien truth.
  20. kush62
    kush62 17 January 2016 17: 59
    +3
    Secondly, on this basis, ethnic hatred in Russia is incited. There are more than 12 million Turkic-speaking citizens in our country, many sympathize with Turkey as a country with a similar language and cultural and religious traditions.

    What sources did this author take from? Many who is this? Blockers of the Crimea.
    Many sympathize with their homeland, Russia. But they don’t care about the Turks.
    The drive of pure water, not analytics.
  21. project sity
    project sity 17 January 2016 18: 03
    +4
    (The current confrontation between the West and Russia, in fact, can be evaluated as Washington’s actions aimed at pushing to the limit the destruction of the state that was not completed in 1991 under the USSR name that went down in history.)
    It’s impossible to squeeze, it’s not the same Russia to press it. Press yourself if necessary!
  22. Stinger
    Stinger 17 January 2016 18: 09
    +3
    Russia has never been in the ring of friends. It is only liberals who have all sorts of scum friends. So that everything is fine. Do not hit the bald spot on the parquet.
  23. razved
    razved 17 January 2016 18: 14
    0
    Throughout history, Russia has been in the ring of enemies. So don't get used to it ...
  24. V.ic
    V.ic 17 January 2016 18: 17
    +4
    The author forgot to mention the "fifth column" of the West in the person of "our" oligarchs. This beast will be more dangerous than SsySiA!
  25. Kibalchish
    Kibalchish 17 January 2016 18: 23
    +2
    Don't worry. Some people will sign the surrender without any war. Here serious people cannot go to London and Miami, but you are talking about "rings of enemies"


    14.07.2015, 21: 44

    “Let's not talk about enemies,” Putin continued the peace line. “Let's talk about competitors, opponents.”
  26. Gippo
    Gippo 17 January 2016 18: 25
    +2
    On the topic of the goat and tiger:
    "Tiger Cupid is like Russia. He does not pay attention to goats."
    "Yes, yes. He lives in isolation, they eat what they give - and only Timur is among his friends."
    1. andrew42
      andrew42 18 January 2016 20: 22
      0
      Plyusanul for humor. But essentially not so.
  27. Al ssz
    Al ssz 17 January 2016 18: 26
    -4
    Romanoff or ALEXANDER ROMANOV, .. It's your part to "explain" what is happening and how and why. "Specialist" no matter how .. Are the shoulder straps too tight? Everything is not what you think, moreover, everything is not so ... THERE IS NO OTHER. Card, but still .. what is ..
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  29. Dmitry Potapov
    Dmitry Potapov 17 January 2016 18: 28
    +5
    Well yes m .. l .. I, and so all the time surrounded by friends or something they lived !? I’m personally on the drum, Russia will call for I will keep a circular defense, by the way enemies as well as friends do not knock out.
  30. GOGY
    GOGY 17 January 2016 18: 34
    +2
    The main thing is that our "upper" ones do not ochkanuli ... If they start to vomit from all sides, like a bear, then I'm afraid we won't wave it off without nuclear weapons, but this is in the very peak case. Here everyone is khan, unambiguously, but: if We press the button and They know that We will press. I think that the scenario of a hot war is unlikely in the near future, and they will hit the economy, since there is a powerful fifth column inside the country, which, as the Gaidar Sabbath has shown, is not going to and will not do something in Russia to overcome the crisis. They have completely different tasks ... And analogies with 41 are inappropriate - then there was a different country and other people ... We roll like a bun, downhill, no one knows where and no gap ahead request
  31. major124
    major124 17 January 2016 18: 36
    0
    Nothing has changed ..... as always ...
  32. OlegV
    OlegV 17 January 2016 18: 37
    +3
    According to the French secret services, Russia has never prepared a military invasion of Ukraine, said the head of intelligence of France, General Christoph Gomard, speaking to the country's National Assembly. In addition, he emphasized that American intelligence, using authority in NATO, provided false information about the invasion of the Russian army in Ukraine.


    http://www.pravda-tv.ru/2016/01/17/201620/gromkoe-razoblachenie-glava-frantsuzsk
    oj-razvedki-spetssluzhby-ssha-solgali-o-vtorzhenii-rossijskoj-armii-na-ukrainu
  33. Talgat
    Talgat 17 January 2016 18: 41
    +7
    And I also wanted to add a drop of optimism - it's not all that bad. Russia is not a "besieged fortress"

    Yes, in the West, unfortunately, a very unfortunate neighborhood with the aggressive NATO bloc - it has always been - and thousands of years ago with other names. West Versus Eurasia.

    But in the east, we must admit there is China, which, similar to the next 30-40 years, will not be an enemy, but almost a temporary ally and will take on the confrontation with the USA and Japan

    There is a friendly Iran across the Caspian (just like China, it’s almost an ally - perhaps situational)

    There is a problem of Afghanistan and instability of Central Asia - but between the Eurasian Union and them there is a buffer in the form of Turkmenistan Uzbekistan Tajikistan.

    In addition, Russia, together with Kazakhstan and Belarus (now I will remind you of Kyrgyzstan and Armenia - Tajikistan and Turkmenistan in the future, and maybe Mongolia tomorrow - why not) create our analogue of the European Union - the Eurasian Union - a common economy and market, which generally should were before CSTO - usually markets and economics first - then finances - military alliance - and so on

    Russia is a member of the SCO and BRICS - associations with such a population, resources and potential that allow them to be no less important than the European Union or Western "Big 7 or 8", etc.
  34. Moskal 55
    Moskal 55 17 January 2016 18: 47
    +2
    Perestroika = movement to Europe. Europe (according to the idea of ​​perestroika) can be entered by the whole of Russia (Europe from Lisbon to Vladivostok), or, having destroyed Russia, enter some of the resulting parts, or move to the west altogether, and not only to Europe, the most "advanced" part of the population, but Consider Russia as a raw material colony. Until 2014, all our "elite" led us to the West. Putin was clearly in favor of the 1st path, but there were many supporters of the other paths among the "elites". After 2014 ... well, it is very doubtful that the number of supporters of the other paths will seriously decrease. They just have to manipulate us more intensively and more sophisticatedly. The supporters of the 1st way did not turn 180 degrees at all and did not abandon it. The first path presupposes an increase in Russia's influence in Eurasia, and, ultimately, the replacement of the United States. And they should enter Europe. For this, the USSR was destroyed, and the economy was made "capitalist", and the consumer society was raised. And now this geopolitical war is going on, complicated for Russia by the fact that the USSR was ditched and destroyed, and the "elites" have a complete zoo. And the consumer society hasn't gone anywhere. They are nourished by rains, echoes of Moscow, Gaidar forums, Yeltsin memorials, museums of victims of political repression ...
    What about sanctions and betrayal? After all, giving the price of oil is not a sanction. This is the cold war! With a very strong enemy, with the presence of an undisguised and very influential 5th column inside Russia. Moreover, in power itself, this 5th column is very influential! So we will endure this cold war, but they ...
    So what to do? And unite. Not for Maidan, of course. They, on the contrary, must be immediately stopped (and not united, and you will not be able to influence anything). We must unite for Russia and against traitors.
    Perestroika-2 must not be allowed!
    Come on eot.su, get acquainted, drive in, join!
  35. Rumata
    Rumata 17 January 2016 19: 05
    -9
    The confrontation between Russia and the West, sounds like a confrontation between Mongolia and China. If they wanted to ruin the Russian Federation economically, they would have done it a long time ago, whoever disagrees with this lives in some kind of alternative reality. Instead of building relationships - rattling weapons.
    It is especially funny to read commentators calling for "Zhahnut on Washington", shiz ... I hope Putin and his entourage are more adequate than the local warriors.
    1. vlad66
      vlad66 17 January 2016 19: 27
      13
      Quote: Rumata
      I hope Putin and the environment are more adequate than local warriors.

      He will be more adequate than you.
      Quote: Rumata
      If they wanted to ruin the Russian Federation economically, they would have done it a long time ago, whoever disagrees with this lives in some kind of alternative reality.

      So we have been living in alternative reality for 1000 years
      Quote: Rumata
      Instead of building relationships - rattling weapons.

      If you would like for a long time to establish, but would not impose sanctions and did not come close to our borders.
      Quote: Rumata
      Especially funny to read commentators calling for "Shoot Washington"

      Sorry, but if he flies from there, the answer will fly there. hi
      1. Rumata
        Rumata 17 January 2016 19: 35
        +1
        Quote: vlad66
        Sorry, but if he flies from there, the answer will fly there.

        I have no doubt about that. I wouldn’t want something hotheads wailing preventively, walking everywhere with a Geiger counter is not convenient ...
        1. vlad66
          vlad66 17 January 2016 19: 46
          11
          Quote: Rumata
          Quote: vlad66
          Sorry, but if he flies from there, the answer will fly there.

          I have no doubt about that. I wouldn’t want something hotheads wailing preventively, walking everywhere with a Geiger counter is not convenient ...

          So it is not necessary to just attack us, but the fact that there are "zhakhayutsya in America" ​​So let it be better to go to VO in the comments zhahayat and what's wrong, in real life, after all, not users will zhakha, so do not worry with the counters, no one will walk, if they really bang with counters, no one will walk at all. hi
          1. Rumata
            Rumata 17 January 2016 20: 03
            -5
            Quote: vlad66
            , in real, not users will crave

            I am a supporter of the point of view that for the most part in the Russian Federation, opinion in society is formed by propaganda, there are many examples of this. Propaganda per se is neither bad nor good; it depends on what it is used for. If people in some way, massively, in a short period of time have come to the conclusion that we should have shed it, then this is one thing, but if it is the fruit of propaganda then it is completely different. Although maybe I have paranoia wassat
        2. Wheel
          Wheel 17 January 2016 22: 32
          +1
          Quote: Rumata
          I wouldn’t want something hotheads wailing preventively, walking everywhere with a Geiger counter is not convenient ...

          Rumata, forget you are at the Geiger counter - you won’t have to go with him, you’d better bring him straight to Africa or Latin America.
          If it already zhahnet, then for the "promised land" there is a portion, I think, there is no need to explain why and why.
    2. gergi
      gergi 17 January 2016 20: 26
      +1
      In the sense of Russia-China, west-Mongolia. I agree 100%. There were many dangers, where are they? All you have to do is trust in Putin. He will not let you, the unfortunate.
      1. Rumata
        Rumata 17 January 2016 21: 51
        -7
        Quote: gergi
        In the sense of Russia-China, west-Mongolia. I agree 100%.

        I mean the opposite ...
    3. excomandante
      excomandante 17 January 2016 22: 36
      0
      "The confrontation between Russia and the West sounds like a confrontation between Mongolia and China." You know, you always managed somehow.
    4. CTEPX
      CTEPX 19 January 2016 16: 43
      +1
      Quote: Rumata
      If you would like to ditch the Russian Federation economically

      It's always a little funny when I imagine that "they" have stopped "buying" at the price of beads from us for oil, electricity, timber, seafood and grain, titanium and plutonium)). I wonder how long after they will notice that we have become much better life? I'm afraid to assume, but - they will not last a quarter, they will notice)).
  36. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 17 January 2016 19: 05
    +4
    Why not finished off the remnants of the USSR? Yes, there was laziness. They also do not like extra gestures. They decided that the EBN would finish Russia itself, without much help, although they threw up their economists, even made GKO muddied up, it all ended in a wild public debt and a default of 98th. So what? The country in whose territory IT IS. And now we even provide ourselves with food FULLY (I mean not that of the belly, but that we will not starve). And there is Southeast Asia, which has not joined the sanctions, but it can ensure the supply of technologies and equipment missing from Russia. In general, the hegemon did not have enough electrical tape, but it did not work to strangle Russia.
    1. Rumata
      Rumata 17 January 2016 19: 28
      -2
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      And now we even provide ourselves with food FULLY (I mean not that of the belly, but that we will not starve).

      To prevent starvation, you need only 6 types of products that the Russian Federation provides itself with, but they do not include meat, milk, many types of vegetables and almost all fruits. Russia practically does not produce seeds, 85% imports and if the situation worsens, it will not be able to provide itself even with such basic products as carrots and cabbage.
      This is me to the fact that everyone calling for the Iron Curtain 2.0, you need to cool down a little ardor. No one will get better from this.
    2. Bayonet
      Bayonet 17 January 2016 20: 01
      +1
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      Why not finished off the remnants of the USSR? Yes, there was laziness.

      They seem to have never suffered from laziness. smile
      1. Thunderbolt
        Thunderbolt 17 January 2016 20: 34
        +5
        They did not finish it off because they needed to: subjugate the economy and the elite (by embedding in the global world-process of subordination to transfer to "self-sufficiency" with the extraction of maximum profit (outflow of capital and brains)); achieve total military-technical superiority; reconfigure the former Soviet republics (creating pro-Western or unstable regimes); bring NATO closer to Russia relatively gently and bloodlessly; with the help of information technologies and manipulations, to introduce into the population of Russia (primarily young people) ideological attitudes of lack of will, self-destruction and controlled protest; create preconditions for separatism and social dissatisfaction.
    3. gergi
      gergi 17 January 2016 20: 21
      +1
      Boruch's instinct for self-preservation worked; he did not touch nuclear weapons. For this reason, the Americans also rolled away, they thought at the successor to break the rash, but they showed them a goat. Now shit flies from them in a fountain, the handles are short.
    4. Wheel
      Wheel 17 January 2016 22: 34
      +3
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      And now we even provide ourselves with food FULLY (I mean not that of the belly, but that we will not starve).

      You have been deceived in large part, if Che.
  37. Wolverine
    Wolverine 17 January 2016 19: 06
    0
    Quote: Altona
    In general, in any way, the United States should be the first to blame, without a leader all their allies do not represent anything

    Need a tsunami 250 meters high near the USA ...
  38. Oleg Lavrov
    Oleg Lavrov 17 January 2016 19: 09
    0
    we don’t get used to it !! we can do it !!
  39. taseka
    taseka 17 January 2016 19: 19
    +2
    We will also see how and what ?!
  40. vlad66
    vlad66 17 January 2016 19: 22
    12
    Quote: vladimirZ
    How are we going to confront the enemy who wants to continue dividing Russia into another dozen two small warring states? With these leaders?

    There’s no one with Medved, but I’ll say that about Putin. You don’t be offended, but you probably forgot 1999. The invasion of Chechen fighters in Dagestan and the words of the then Prime Minister Stepashin: -We have already lost Dagestan. And who stopped the further collapse of Russia? Do not remember? Through blood, sweat, tears and terrorist attacks in the Nord Ost and Beslan? Don’t remember either? I apologize again if Vladimir offended you, but let me ask you who you need? Just don’t talk about the President, name please. Respectfully. hi
    1. vladimirZ
      vladimirZ 18 January 2016 12: 13
      0
      ... but let me ask you who needs it? Just don’t talk about the people's president, please give your last name.
      - Vlad66 (1)

      I need Russia to be a strong and respected, primarily by its people, state, with an unchanged social course to improve the well-being of the whole people, and not the handful of thieving corrupt comprador officials and oligarchs entrenched in power under President Putin V.V.
      With the regularly replaced President, responsible to the people and the Law, including, on occasion, and criminal liability for possible illegal actions.
      The current situation, when it is difficult to name a worthy candidate for the presidency, does not mean that he is not. There are such people, and they must first be put forward by political parties. And these people should be found, determined, by fair elections, people.
      But the liberal "system" of oligarchic capitalism, having overwhelmed the institution of political selection of future leaders of Russia, replaced it with a surrogate for "transferring power to its successor." From here appeared V.V. Putin, unknown to anyone in 1999, and later in 2008, also unknown to anyone Dima Medvedev.
      This is bad for Russia and its people. But the "system" was created and defended by people like President Putin, "no alternative" and "irreplaceable" for the "majority" of the people and for you.
      1. CTEPX
        CTEPX 19 January 2016 16: 57
        0
        Quote: vladimirZ
        I need Russia to be a strong and respected, primarily by its people, state, with an unchanged social course to improve the welfare of the whole people, and not a bunch of thieving corrupt comprador officials and oligarchs

        This is great!
        Quote: vladimirZ
        a handful of thieving corrupt comprador officials and oligarchs entrenched in power under President Putin V.V.

        But this is a substitution of concepts. Why do you need a president at all? And if the first part of your proposal will be implemented at the premiere, dictator or monarch, no longer? Not good?
  41. taseka
    taseka 17 January 2016 19: 25
    +1
    What is in the ring is clearly shown in stages.
  42. Gulo
    Gulo 17 January 2016 19: 42
    +2
    Quote: Dmitry Potapov
    Well yes m .. l .. I, and so all the time surrounded by friends or something they lived !? I’m personally on the drum, Russia will call for I will keep a circular defense, by the way enemies as well as friends do not knock out.


    I totally agree. I will add words from the familiar film "Bakhnem, necessarily Bakhnem and the whole world to dust", but this is a last resort.
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  44. Moskal 55
    Moskal 55 17 January 2016 19: 44
    +5
    Quote: Ingvar 72
    I offer nothing but to think. It seems that we are all ONLY ONE ATTENDANTS on the world show of magicians. I recall Strelkov’s words that Syria is just a magician’s gesture, the purpose of which is to divert attention from the discharge of the Donbass (Murders of charismatic militia leaders, Surkov-Nuland meeting). I advise the thinking person to revise Strelkov, and to think over his forecasts, before hanging the labels of the all-protector on him.

    Well, let's think about it! Leaving half of the territory of the DPR is not a drain on the DPR? A million times more drain than any Minsk and than the "establishment of one-man management"! So Vlasov is made a hero, and, moreover, the (former?) Owners of Strelkov.
    From smallest to largest: Strelkov <Borodai <Malofeev <Yordan, Chavchavadze and other White Emigrat party that collaborated with Hitler in the Second World War. Whites are the only ones with whom you can deal, who in the USSR did not climb with Hitler. Denikin, for example. Otherwise we will get a constitutional monarchy with Michael of Kent, but not in Russia, but in "Muscovy". And what will happen in Siberia, the Caucasus, Pomorie, Far East? If you think about it, then not refer to Strelkov, who is not a self-acting figure, but to his "bosses". And for this you need to explicitly specify them!
  45. Great-grandfather of Zeus
    Great-grandfather of Zeus 17 January 2016 19: 45
    +1
    This is not the first time for us, Russia shouted a colossus with feet of clay ... and it turned out that our feet turned out to be steel, just like fists!
  46. ZKB
    ZKB 17 January 2016 20: 02
    +4
    in my opinion, all these rings were and will be. From the ancient tradition, our people, possessing the largest territory, a huge reserve of resources, mazol eyes hungry, predatory eyes of neighbors, sorry, now partners. In addition, since the fall of the Tatar-Mongol yoke, on the whole they have pursued an independent and sovereign policy, and this is very annoying ... But today I do not believe in the military danger of a global war with Russia. The point is not even that Europe remembers how Bonaparte and Hitler were kicked in the teeth, the point is different, there are no wolves in this pack now. There are plenty of jackals, no wolves. They can spit foam on forums, throw sanctions or sometimes make formidable statements, but they cannot fight. This is not kicking the corpse of Yugoslavia or Iraq with a heap, this is really fighting, dying in batches ... they are not capable of that. Europe is pampered and depraved in its gay essence, the USA ... to fight and die is not profitable. Enough 1 Brest Fortress and all this clique, excuse me in the pants will do. The population of the United States for the most part is stupefied, who considers health insurance and the payment of lifelong loans to be the highest blessing, devours fast food and loves stupid TV shows. They were made like that, since they are easier to manage, they don't need anything. Is this mass ready to sacrifice their "asses" in distant cold Russia ??? I think no. Will pay a lot of money ??? Well, it is possible to kill for money, but to die for them ... Therefore, gentlemen-comrades, we should not anger China, there they can, and the rest will only rot us, but they will not go hand-to-hand. Set their lackeys like ukrov ??? these can, but not for long and once. August 2008 is an example of this.
    1. Rumata
      Rumata 17 January 2016 20: 14
      -6
      Quote: ZKB
      The population of the United States for the most part has become stupid, considering health insurance and paying life credits to be the highest good, eating fast food and indulging in stupid television shows.

      Watch less on TV. You laugh at those who think that in the Russian Federation, according to Peter, bears walk, call them nuuu stupid ©, but you do the same yourself. In the USA, as in any other country, there are stupid people who eat fast food for stupid shows, but there are ordinary people who are normal in all respects, so they make up the majority in the USA and Russia.
      Call a quarter of a billion people stupid cattle can only those who did not travel no further than Egypt, but judges other countries through the prism of a zombie.
      1. ZKB
        ZKB 17 January 2016 20: 57
        +6
        I don’t try to leave. you know, the service does not allow, and there is no particular desire. And he talked with the Americans more than once in the service, and so, did not notice something well-read and special knowledge. Yes, and I'm sorry, it’s not the zombie’s fault that any PSAC and OBAMA barks are wet there. I imagine with us Lavrov would have known geography.
        Now about the fact that they themselves are doing the same thing ... in our country it is so impossible, in our country you need to survive. at all times, there are marginalized people, but sometimes they have some remarkable ingenuity. And extreme, remember the Americans in World War II ... except for the post-Hollywood exploits, that I did not notice either patriotism or a willingness to sacrifice.
        And finally, about a quarter of a billion bytes ... Read American views on governance, analyze American traditions and culture, their values ​​and answer your question why. Cattle is easier to manage. if it weren’t for this, American society, which has a lot of problems and contradictions, would have collapsed before the USSR, and more bloody.
        1. Rumata
          Rumata 17 January 2016 22: 09
          -3
          Quote: ZKB
          And finally, about a quarter of a billion bytes ... Read American views on governance, analyze American traditions and culture, their values ​​and answer your question why.

          Such "deep analytics" is suitable for attendants at the entrance. I have been to the United States more than once, and I build my opinion not according to "views on management" and other "horses in a vacuum", but according to what I saw there. There, as elsewhere, people are different and all rowing one size fits all is the height of idiocy.
          Quote: ZKB
          Cattle easier to manage

          And if we use your logic and go from the opposite, then in Russia there are a lot of Cattle since they are easy to manage, then in the West they would not forgive the power for those who hold it, in the Russian Federation they forget in a week. Here I can write a decent list of what was left to drift in Russia, and in the United States would fly heads, one of which is Vasiliev. The worse the situation, the higher the power ratings, so the Russians are also cattle or is it still a little more complicated?
          Quote: ZKB
          And extreme, remember the Americans in World War II ... except for the post-Hollywood exploits, that I did not notice either patriotism or a willingness to sacrifice.

          They looked bad. or do you think the heroes were only in the USSR? On any theater, the Americans had their own deeds, and not a little, like the Japanese, Germans, and even the French.
          1. ZKB
            ZKB 17 January 2016 22: 13
            +3
            Tell me, on what kind of theater of war did the Americans show themselves during the Second World War ???
            1. Rumata
              Rumata 18 January 2016 00: 12
              -2
              Quote: ZKB
              Tell me, on what kind of theater of war did the Americans show themselves during the Second World War ???

              In the Pacific Ocean, in your opinion, they did not show themselves in any way?
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          3. ZKB
            ZKB 17 January 2016 22: 24
            +1
            in my opinion, apart from stripping the world community on blood, the Americans did nothing during World War II.
          4. ZKB
            ZKB 17 January 2016 22: 24
            0
            in my opinion, apart from stripping the world community on blood, the Americans did nothing during World War II.
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  47. iouris
    iouris 17 January 2016 20: 14
    0
    The state has no friends except the army and navy. They do not negotiate with the wimps.
  48. gergi
    gergi 17 January 2016 20: 16
    +4
    Wherever it starts, wherever it gets, the first thing to do is to enter the brazen red American face. We’ll definitely not fall into the innocent.
  49. Mikhail Krapivin
    Mikhail Krapivin 17 January 2016 20: 36
    +6
    Colleagues, I don’t know about you, but every time it amazes me how, with five to six dozen people who read the article, sometimes more, five or six "comrades" who are not quite comrades to us, or even not comrades at all, negate whoever they want ... As soon as a colleague from Russia starts a dispute with a colleague from Israel, or with pronounced "liberals," the Russian colleague himself and all those who support him receive a slight but negative bias of two or three minuses. This suggests that our opponents are more organized and friendly, supporting each other and minus, like one, everyone who disagrees with them. At the same time, our Russian colleagues, of whom there are many times more, ignore this process with our usual complacency and healthy indifference, apparently according to the principle - there are a lot of people, someone else will add. As a result, it was drained over and over again with a small negative result. I understand that we are not losing the car, but an argument, but still it is insulting. Do not be lazy, friends, to click once again on the plus or minus of the discussion topic that attracted your attention.
    1. Orionvit
      Orionvit 19 January 2016 00: 06
      0
      Mikhail Krapivin, I completely agree with you. Even for not a big comment in favor of Russia, or at least a little throwing a shadow to the west, you can pick up minuses. Yes and to hell with them, minuses, another is important. Correctly say, certain groups are sitting, organized by political, ethnic, ideological, and other views, and amicably minus all patriotic articles and comments. As I understand it, this is the site of patriots of Russia, and enemies need to be identified. It would be nice to know, so to speak in person and by name, who put you minus or plus, and for what. This is an ideological front, one needs to know the enemy, otherwise this anonymity is sometimes annoying.
  50. cheap trick
    cheap trick 17 January 2016 20: 44
    -1
    By the way, the Poles fought normally and we don’t have to drop them like that already! as from 2 sides they were attacked by the USSR and Germany, anyone here will flinch! and so they fought normally !!! not a couple of the French and all Danes.
    1. excomandante
      excomandante 17 January 2016 22: 41
      +5
      Do not repeat the stupid propaganda tales of the times of "glasnost", do not be remembered by nightfall. The USSR did not "slap" the Poles. Read the documentary sources - the Polish army was ordered not to engage in battles with the Red Army, just to withdraw, although there were some scumbags. How - Poland, and without thugs))) Polish soldiers in that war really showed themselves to be brave warriors, but all the military-political leadership turned out to be polls of stupid cowards who simply abandoned their army and people.