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The delegation of the Russian Federation refused to travel to Germany because of the failure to issue a visa to Tkachev

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The Ministry of Agriculture of the Russian Federation considered it impossible for the Russian delegation to attend the Green Week fair in Berlin after refusing a visa to the head of the Ministry Alexander Tkachev, reports RIA News statement of authority.


The delegation of the Russian Federation refused to travel to Germany because of the failure to issue a visa to Tkachev


“Russia was going to take part in the World Food and Agrarian Exhibition Green Week-2016, but due to the fact that the German Foreign Ministry refused to issue permission for the arrival in Berlin of Minister Alexander Tkachev, included in the EU sanctions lists, it automatically made it impossible to participate in forum of the Russian delegation, especially given the fact that international multilateral ministerial-level events are planned on the margins of the exhibition, including the global agrarian forum and the meeting of the ministers of agriculture of a wide range and "
the statement said.

“We are compelled to state that such steps do not benefit not only bilateral cooperation, but also the agrarian sector of Germany itself,” the ministry said, recalling that sanctions against the EU “have already cost the German farmers about a billion euros.”

Europe's largest fair, Green Week, which gathers hundreds of thousands of visitors annually, for the first time in almost 23, will be held without Russian participation. In 2015, the exhibition organizers registered nearly 2 thousands of exhibitors from 68 countries. Over the week, more than 400 thousand people visited the event.
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  1. jjj
    jjj 16 January 2016 11: 39 New
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    Tkachev should have a Syrian passport, then Angelica herself with open arms will accept
    1. NIKNN
      NIKNN 16 January 2016 11: 43 New
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      And they could talk about apples and tomatoes, and talk about sprats. laughing woodpeckers they again set themselves the bandwagon request
      1. Egoza
        Egoza 16 January 2016 11: 55 New
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        Quote: NIKNN
        And they could talk about apples and tomatoes, and talk about sprats. laughing woodpeckers they again set themselves a bandwagon

        And what? Russia will not live without their tomato and sprat? Figs with them. It is better to increase productivity at home and reduce the price for Russians.
        1. Lukich
          Lukich 16 January 2016 12: 12 New
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          Quote: Egoza
          And what? Russia will not live without their tomato and sprat? Figs with them.

          already. pork went for export. much more to come
          1. cap
            cap 16 January 2016 14: 37 New
            +8
            Quote: Lukich
            Quote: Egoza
            And what? Russia will not live without their tomato and sprat? Figs with them.

            already. pork went for export. much more to come


            Свинью то мы положили в виде свинины -"подложили". Боятся, что Ткачев еще что-то предложит вкусненькое. Воблу под пиво, или шашлычок под вино краснодарское.
            Whose heart does not flinch.
            And America doesn’t allow the “mother”.
            LOW! EAT CHILDREN IN MACDONALDS !!!
            USA
          2. Vladimir 1964
            Vladimir 1964 16 January 2016 14: 40 New
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            Quote: Lukich
            already. pork went for export. much more to come

            That’s for sure, Sergey, there’s a lot more to come. Especially pork in Krasnodar, bare ribs not lower than 300 rubles. belay
            1. viktorR
              viktorR 16 January 2016 16: 20 New
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              Interestingly, the same pork from Krasnodar arriving to Sevastopol is gaining weight and getting cheaper)).
              1. Vladimir 1964
                Vladimir 1964 16 January 2016 19: 08 New
                +9
                Quote: viktorR
                Interestingly, the same pork from Krasnodar arriving to Sevastopol is gaining weight and getting cheaper)).


                А если, коллега, Вас не затруднит, посмотрите цены в магазинах Краснодара. Мы "очень" благодарны ДАМе, что он хотя бы убрал Ткачева из края, но последствия правления оного, икаются в крае по сей день. Угробление Ткачевым сельского хозяйства на Кубани для жителей регилна далеко не тайна. hi
            2. Inok10
              Inok10 16 January 2016 17: 38 New
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              Quote: Vladimir 1964
              Especially pork in Krasnodar, bare ribs not lower than 300 rubles.

              .. laughing .. is it in such a Krasnodar? .. virtual? .. perhaps .. laughing
              Kaliningrad:.. price per kg. ..
              Chilled pork goulash - 320 rubles.
              Pork roasting - 350 rubles.
              Pork ribs - 120 rubles.
              Pork entrecote (with ribs) - 300 rubles.
              .. these are prices in retail chains .. farmers and the market are cheaper by 20-30 rubles. .. oh, found in the freezer .. semi-finished .. elegantly goes even in a pan, with a ruddy caramel crust .. hi
              1. Inok10
                Inok10 16 January 2016 17: 39 New
                +5
                .. overall plan .. hi
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              3. alexej123
                alexej123 17 January 2016 15: 28 New
                +3
                Согласен. В городе райцентре Краснодарского края, в мясном магазине - корейка без кости - 270 руб., шейка б/к - 270 руб. Кстати, уже месяца 3 наблюдается снижение цен на свинину в оптовом сегменте, свою "лепту" вносят Белгородская и Курская области. Какие 300 руб. за голые рёбра в Краснодаре? Магазин не укажите, специально съезжу и проверю.
            3. nikolaij.w.78
              nikolaij.w.78 18 January 2016 10: 05 New
              +2
              I don’t know, in Armavir we have pork for 189 per kilo, at least ribs, at least a neck
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              2. alexej123
                alexej123 18 January 2016 11: 55 New
                0
                Maybe land. Pork from Belgorod and Kursk regions is actively imported into the region. Governor of Belgorod Region recently stated that almost every seventh kilogram of pork is produced from them.
        2. Pancho
          Pancho 16 January 2016 12: 14 New
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          Quote: Egoza
          It is better to increase productivity at home and reduce the price for Russians.

          Are you talking about Tkachev? Well, well, this businessman in the Krasnodar Territory worked out to the point where our Egyptian potatoes cost 3 times cheaper than Kuban. And the quality is better. I even saw potatoes produced in Saudi Arabia in our region too. And I thought that there In addition to sand and oil, there is nothing. By the way, Tkachev completely destroyed private pig farming in the Kuban. And they made this felt boots a minister.
          1. Temples
            Temples 16 January 2016 12: 26 New
            42
            Private pigs throughout the south are slaughtered.
            This way of competition)))
            The bureaucrats are mastering budget money - they are building pig farms for themselves.
            Previously from rags to riches, now the reverse story wassat
            And they do not know how to trade otherwise.
            All other manufacturers are simply destroyed.
            The big question is:
            -from whom more harm from sanctions or from bureaucrats of homegrown ???
            1. Rostov
              Rostov 16 January 2016 16: 32 New
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              Quote: Pancho
              Well, well, this businessman in the Krasnodar Territory was finalized before

              Land, I’ll tell you such a story. I myself come from the Kuban. Relatives live from Armavir to Otradnaya station. It just so happened that only we go to visit them. You begin to listen to them, so Tkachev is just a complete reptile, he has ruined and plundered the entire Kuban. You say that they say you’ve taken a cold, advise you to ride in neighboring regions, see, compare the standard of living. Do not believe. But last year, my Bati had an anniversary, 70 years old, many came. After that, the opinion about absolutely worthless Tkachev immediately changed. Our Rostov region is not the most backward, but until the Kuban we still have to grow and grow. The most elementary example is the Azov coast. In the Kuban these are resorts, we have dilapidated farmsteads. Remember the design of the play area at the border? The Kuban has done almost everything, they have not even begun to build with us. And if before the Rostov region did not lag far behind the Kuban, then already 15-20 years the gap is obvious. And I note that the Kuban began to develop long before Russia won the right to host the Olympics. By the way. If you hypothetically instantly transfer from the Kuban, let's say to Poland, Croatia, the Czech Republic - you will not notice the difference at all. So, just try to travel outside the Kuban and you will understand that in many ways you are wrong.
              ps I do not idealize Tkachev, but the fact that he is better than 90% of the governors of the Russian Federation is a fact.
              1. Pancho
                Pancho 16 January 2016 23: 47 New
                +1
                I’m not a hypocrite, but I’m somehow not accepted by strangers to turn to you. But in fact I’ll answer that we need to take the best areas for reference (Kaluga and Belgorod is my opinion), and not the worst.
                1. Rostov
                  Rostov 17 January 2016 01: 20 New
                  +6
                  Quote: Pancho
                  I’m not a hypocrite, but somehow it’s unacceptable to strangers to contact you

                  If you are focusing your attention on this, then I'm sorry.
                  Quote: Pancho
                  But in essence, I’ll answer what should be taken as a guide for the best areas (Kaluga and Belgorod is my opinion)

                  I have such a suspicion that you yourself were not in these areas, and draw your knowledge from the media (Internet, newspapers, TV). I was not in Kaluga, I can’t say anything, but I was in Belgorod, though it’s a passage, however, from what I saw, I can conclude that it is too early to compare the Belgorod region with Kuban (no offense to the inhabitants of this region).
                  Quote: Pancho
                  not the worst

                  Rostov region is far from the worst. Are you not interested in driving around our country? At least in its European part? Visit us at Veshenskaya, and then you will find out that the regional roads of the Kuban are ideal, visit Volgograd and find out what are the bad roads in the regional (regional) center, drive into the Astrakhan region and you can see the villages that were in the Kuban about 100 years ago (astonished by the patience of Astrakhan). Broaden your horizons, so to speak.
                  I repeat, I do not sing odes to Tkachev, but against the background of the vast majority of governors, he was one of the best. Perhaps there are people who could better manage the region, but where are they?
                  1. Pancho
                    Pancho 17 January 2016 23: 34 New
                    0
                    Quote: Rostov
                    You will learn that the regional roads of the Kuban are ideal,

                    So we are discussing roads or agriculture? The fact that our roads are not bad I know, sometimes I leave my house to earn a living by freight. In the areas I mentioned, economic growth, unlike the country. I admire your ability to evaluate the state of an individual region, just a ride along its territory along the federal highway.
                  2. Military Builder
                    Military Builder 18 January 2016 06: 09 New
                    0
                    Perhaps there are people who could better manage the region, but where are they?

                    we have every second Internet user - according to the abilities of the Governor, and if he drinks 150-200 grams - then maybe even the President laughing
            2. coolvoldik
              coolvoldik 16 January 2016 17: 53 New
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              - from whom there is more harm from sanctions or from bureaucrats of homegrown ???

              Siluanov proposed to begin privatization with shares of Rosneft ....
              Я думаю, больше вреда от московских чиновников, чем от "доморощенных". От них вреда больше чем- от санкций, и от ИГИЛ, и от лихорадки эбола, вместе взятых...
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            4. dvina71
              dvina71 16 January 2016 18: 24 New
              +4
              Quote: Temples
              Private pigs throughout the south are slaughtered.

              Yeah .. cut out .. How many times a year? Or they cut newborns right ... sober to a Christian?
              So the boars do not live on meat for more than a year .. But you have a test song .., the truth is not the topic .. It’s better to sing about beef, you can still ..
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            6. alexej123
              alexej123 17 January 2016 15: 35 New
              +1
              If you don’t know, don’t tell you and the previous one. Private traders do not slaughter pigs. They can be seized only if home ownership falls into the ASF zone - African Swine Fever. Many already simply refuse, the risks of the disease are large. Now you will scream that there is no ASF, Tkachev’s machinations, elimination of competitors, etc. By the way, measures to eliminate ASF are used with instructions developed back in the USSR. Read if there is time. Already at that time they understood what kind of illness it was. Spain - the pig population was also on private farms. ASF began to rage, could cope only when they switched to raising pigs in closed farms.
          2. askort154
            askort154 16 January 2016 12: 32 New
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            Pancho .... Well, well, this businessman in the Krasnodar Territory has developed to the point that our Egyptian potatoes cost 3 times cheaper than Kuban .....

            I myself grew up in the Kuban and I know that the Kuban lands are not for potatoes, too
            "жирная" почва, а картофель любит супесчаную.Поэтому, картофелеводством в больших масштабах, на Кубани никогда не занимались.
            It has always been imported in trade (and under the USSR).
            In the rest of agricultural production, Krasnodar Territory is the undisputed leader in the Russian Federation.
            1. Pancho
              Pancho 16 January 2016 23: 53 New
              +2
              Quote: askort154
              I myself grew up in the Kuban and I know that the Kuban lands are not for potatoes, too

              Каждый кубанец - с детства агроном что ли? На родине моего отца в Тамбовской области чернозем уж наверно "жирнее" кубанского ,но картошка там объедение.Кстати черноземные области России не в курсе ,что у них земли по Вашему для картошки не пригодные ,сажают по чем зря.
              1. GUGA
                GUGA 18 January 2016 09: 44 New
                +2
                I live in Kanevskaya station. I work in a company selling irrigation equipment (sprinkler systems). Before joining the company, he was surprised at the imported potatoes, but now everything is clear to me. Growing vegetables (on an industrial scale) is impossible without proper irrigation. The cost of irrigation equipment costs approximately FROM 2500 dollars. on ha. The average cost is 3000-3500 dollars. on ha. And this is without pumping and piping. The approximate cost of the entire project per 100 hectares is 30 million rubles-50 million rubles. Plus river restoration work. Plus equipment for tillage, planting and harvesting - about another plus 500000 euros. Plus vegetable storage - 15000-20000 rubles. on 1t. It is easy to guess that it is easier and cheaper for farms to engage in cereals. In connection with the sanctions, large farms began to pay much more attention to vegetables, small farmers and in any case will not be pulled. Before you find fault, you need to understand the issue.
                1. Pancho
                  Pancho 18 January 2016 18: 58 New
                  0
                  Quote: GUGA
                  Before you blame, you need to understand the issue

                  And no one is chaotic, I agree that investments are needed. So it was necessary to deal with this when oil was expensive.
          3. unsinkable
            unsinkable 16 January 2016 13: 10 New
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            Quote: Pancho
            completely destroyed private pig farming in the Kuban

            I confirm it 100%, since it was directly related to this. I was engaged in pig breeding and poultry farming. There were 118 pigs and several thousand different birds. They strangled with commissions, checks, fines. After all, I fed not only my family. That's it, you get the life, but if you want kui, you’ll get anyway .... Since then I haven’t played any games with the state. PS The Tkachev family (more precisely, his dad, may God grant him health) are the largest landowners in Russia. And Tkachev himself is a poor man, pulling from paycheck to paycheck . hi
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          5. Nikolay K
            Nikolay K 16 January 2016 14: 34 New
            +3
            Tkachev destroyed private pig breeding due to the threat of African swine fever, because this infection could get from private farmsteads to his own industrial pig farms, imagine what losses he would have suffered then. And his own shirt is closer to the body.
          6. Setrac
            Setrac 16 January 2016 15: 48 New
            +3
            Quote: Pancho
            Well, well, this businessman in the Krasnodar Territory has developed to the point that our Egyptian potatoes were 3 times cheaper than the Kuban.

            В магазинах "Агрокомплекс" курица в полтора - два раза дешевле, чем к примеру в магните или Ашане. А на картошку цена в России сезонная, во время уборки картошка стоит "копейки", ну кроме импортной.
            And about private pig breeding - but the nehru pigs and cows in the residential sector contain.
            1. EvgNik
              EvgNik 16 January 2016 18: 51 New
              +5
              Potato is the main product. And it’s far from a penny. But who prevents to grow it yourself? I have my own and there are no problems (and about a hundred are occupied under it, and enough for ourselves, and we give to the children). I will not eat imported. I do not trust import.
              1. dvina71
                dvina71 16 January 2016 20: 35 New
                +3
                Quote: EvgNik
                . I will not eat imported. I do not trust import.

                Imported potatoes do not survive until winter. It is mainly GMO, so that the bugs do not eat. For this, she lacks protection against late blight. For more than 3 months, such potatoes are not stored.
              2. Pancho
                Pancho 16 January 2016 23: 58 New
                +2
                Quote: EvgNik
                But who prevents to grow it yourself? I have my own and there are no problems (and about a hundred are occupied under it,

                Due to circumstances, I can’t deal with potatoes. Well, you have a wonderful hundred, which is enough for you and your children. If everything is true, then I would recommend you to Tkachev's place.
            2. Pancho
              Pancho 16 January 2016 23: 54 New
              +1
              Quote: Setrac
              В магазинах "Агрокомплекс" курица в полтора - два раза дешевле, чем к примеру в магните

              Well, I believe my eyes and see the opposite.
          7. evge-malyshev
            evge-malyshev 16 January 2016 17: 12 New
            +1
            But do not you become in his place? Moreover, I hope that you are not on the EU blacklists either.
            1. Pancho
              Pancho 16 January 2016 23: 43 New
              0
              Quote: evge-malyshev
              But do not you become in his place?

              But who will let me go ?!
          8. Alexey Boukin
            Alexey Boukin 16 January 2016 21: 26 New
            +3
            Well, at least we'll talk on the forum, take our souls. But this is not only about agriculture. Take any industry, everywhere a mess. And he apparently has no end and edge. It is necessary to disperse the entire government along with the prime minister, but the question is, where to find honest people in their place ... It seems like some kind of epidemic ...
        3. Temples
          Temples 16 January 2016 12: 14 New
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          There will be no Tkachev forum, so what?
          What will change if he is there ???
          He will not buy anything, but there are enough sellers there.
          1. Vladimir 1964
            Vladimir 1964 16 January 2016 12: 37 New
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            Quote: Temples
            There will be no Tkachev forum, so what?


            Экономия стране будет, коллега, ничего интересного оттуда всё равно бы не привезли, слишком разные подходы к сельскому хозяйству на западе и у нас, а так хоть в пустую не потратили несколько миллионов евро на посещении "величайшим менеджером от сельского хозяйства" Ткачевым Германии. Пусть лучше Ткачев отчитается перед думой за свой "Агрокомплекс", крупнейший сельскохозяйственный холдинг на юге России.
            Something like that, colleague. hi
            1. Temples
              Temples 16 January 2016 12: 50 New
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              Well, at least Tkachev himself was engaged in agricultural production.
              А вот прежние "министры" просто сказка:
              - Fedorov, Nikolai Vasilievich - lawyer.
              - Skrynnik, Elena Borisovna - cardiologist.
              - Alexey Vasilievich Gordeev - engineer of communications

              The last 15 years, agriculture is managed exclusively by SPECIALISTS !!! wassat

              Want to ruin agriculture?
              Ask the prime minister - HOW?
              And he is coming to you !!!
              1. emercom1979
                emercom1979 16 January 2016 20: 49 New
                +3
                Gordeev graduated from the Voronezh Agricultural Institute. The piece of iron has a second tower. I speak with skill. I work with his fellow student. But how he studied at the Agricultural Institute is a different story. And he became the governor of the Voronezh region since he is local. And that he was a bad minister with that.
            2. sa-ag
              sa-ag 16 January 2016 18: 01 New
              +2
              Quote: Vladimir 1964
              anything interesting from there anyway would not have brought

              what about the seed stock?
              1. dvina71
                dvina71 16 January 2016 18: 29 New
                +3
                Quote: sa-ag
                what about the seed stock?

                No way .. in Russia the cultivation of GMO plants is completely prohibited.
                А вот бычками производителями поинтересоваться надо,да ведь не одной европой этот рынок ограничен.. В Брянске вон "американская черная" прижилась..и вополне себя хорошо чуйствует.
                1. Mordvin 3
                  Mordvin 3 16 January 2016 19: 29 New
                  +2
                  GMOs in Russia are allowed to grow since July 2014. Or banned again?
        4. Vladimirets
          Vladimirets 16 January 2016 12: 18 New
          +7
          Quote: Egoza
          Russia will not live without their tomato and sprat?

          By the way, all the shops are littered with Latvian sprats, why would it? what
          1. Vladimir 1964
            Vladimir 1964 16 January 2016 12: 39 New
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            Quote: Vladimirets
            By the way, all the shops are littered with Latvian sprats, why would it?


            Они, Евгений, "почти" не латышские, а "немного белорусские", из тамошнего моря, к которому Псаки авианосец посылала. laughing
            1. Vladimirets
              Vladimirets 16 January 2016 12: 43 New
              +5
              Quote: Vladimir 1964
              Они, Евгений, "почти" не латышские, а "немного белорусские", из тамошнего моря, к которому Псаки авианосец посылала.

              Vladimir, welcome. hi Yes, nevermind, I specifically looked at the place of production, purely Latvian, I found the Kaliningrad force. laughing
              1. Schulz
                Schulz 16 January 2016 13: 54 New
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                Quote: Vladimirets
                Yes, nevermind, I specifically looked at the place of production, purely Latvian, I found the Kaliningrad force. laughing

                You were looking for it badly. Now everywhere is Kaliningrad
              2. Vladimir 1964
                Vladimir 1964 16 January 2016 14: 28 New
                +5
                Quote: Vladimirets
                Vladimir, welcome. Yes, nevermind, I specifically looked at the place of production, purely Latvian, I found the Kaliningrad force.


                Большой привет, коллега. Не принимайте всерьёз мой комментарий, по поводу страны-производителя, абсолютно с Вами согласен, все магазины, и сетевые и "шаговой" доступности в Краснодаре завалены латвийскими шпротами. А почему так написал про Белоруссию, это вызвано тем что все те же магазины завалены "белорусским лососем". Вот это прикольно, Евгений, ну по моему субъективному мнению. hi
                1. Vladimirets
                  Vladimirets 16 January 2016 20: 00 New
                  0
                  Quote: Vladimir 1964
                  А почему так написал про Белоруссию, это вызвано тем что все те же магазины завалены "белорусским лососем"

                  Yes, I understand you. yes
          2. Gunsmith
            Gunsmith 16 January 2016 13: 09 New
            +3
            Yes, just do not buy them. What are the prices! Yes, and just do not buy. We scored on their sprats ...
          3. Saratoga833
            Saratoga833 16 January 2016 14: 02 New
            +4
            Why be surprised? Sprats after all in Belarus breed, as well as tomatoes (with a Latvian passport and a Belarusian residence permit). But father also pineapples are ripening!
          4. Altona
            Altona 16 January 2016 14: 04 New
            +2
            Quote: Vladimirets
            By the way, all the shops are littered with Latvian sprats, why would it?

            ----------------------
            Тоже обратил внимание на корм этот бесовский. Даже в стеклянные банки стали закатывать с названием "золотые" или "премиум". Удивился даже этому товару.
        5. Lelek
          Lelek 16 January 2016 16: 51 New
          +2
          Quote: Egoza
          It is better to increase productivity at home and reduce the price for Russians.


          Hey.
          It is unlikely that this will succeed while retail trade with agricultural markets is in the hands of our southern neighbors (Azerbaijanis, Turkmens, Uzbeks), whose task is to strip the Russians as much as possible and send money (preferably and mostly duty-free) to their country. They don’t care if Baba Dusi has enough money for a tomato, which these merchants bring to her at a price of 3-6 times that which they buy at OUR wholesale bases. yes
    2. wandlitz
      wandlitz 16 January 2016 11: 45 New
      +3
      So fake Syrian passports in Turkey can be issued, but we have problems with the Turks ...
      Apparently as a refugee without documents at all, walk through Greece to Germany ...
      А если серьёзно, то пользы западникам от того, что наша делегации не приедет на ежегодную берлинскую ярмарку «Зелёная неделя" не будет ни какой.
      1. SRC P-15
        SRC P-15 16 January 2016 11: 52 New
        +6
        Quote: wandlitz
        А если серьёзно, то пользы западникам от того, что наша делегации не приедет на ежегодную берлинскую ярмарку «Зелёная неделя" не будет ни какой.

        "Зелёная ярмарка" - это значит зелёная улица для всех желающих. А какая же она зелёная, если туда можно не всем. Это скорее как в том анекдоте - "зелёная селёдка": "...почему зелёная? - Моя селёдка, в какой цвет хочу, в такой и крашу."
        1. Lukich
          Lukich 16 January 2016 12: 16 New
          +5
          Quote: СРЦ П-15
          "зелёная селёдка": "...почему зелёная? - Моя селёдка, в какой цвет хочу, в такой и крашу."

          -I should?
          -should
          I can
          -can not
    3. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 16 January 2016 11: 45 New
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      Quote: jjj
      Angelica herself with open arms will accept

      I don’t think that Tkachev can drink so much. request
      1. pest
        pest 16 January 2016 11: 58 New
        +5
        Well, to hell with them. What is good for the Russian is death for the German!
        1. ASK505
          ASK505 16 January 2016 16: 26 New
          0
          Quote: pest
          What is good for the Russian is death for the German!


          And vice versa too.
    4. vlad66
      vlad66 16 January 2016 11: 48 New
      33
      So after all, we have mutual sanctions, or again, at the expense of the state treasury, they want to drive around Germany, it would be better if the Minister of Agriculture of the Russian Federation was engaged in agriculture of the Russian Federation, and not Germany.
      1. Ami du peuple
        Ami du peuple 16 January 2016 11: 59 New
        14
        Quote: vlad66
        So we have mutual sanctions, or again, at the expense of the state treasury, they want to ride in Germany

        Yes, in general an interesting situation is obtained. When the government decided who to appoint as head of the Russian delegation, they did not know that Tkachev was on the sanctions list? Or thought that a ride? Not a ride - once again Europe spat in our faces, but formally you can’t find fault. Who benefits from this?
        1. vlad66
          vlad66 16 January 2016 12: 05 New
          19
          Quote: Ami du peuple
          Or thought that a ride

          Something in our government constantly thinks that it’s a ride. Or maybe they don’t think? If Dimon has an iPhone instead of a head.
          1. Ami du peuple
            Ami du peuple 16 January 2016 12: 30 New
            12
            Quote: vlad66
            ? If Dimon has an iPhone instead of a head.

            Do not dare to offend Dmitry Anatolyevich! He has 4,5 million followers on twitter and 2 million on instagram! And what have you accomplished, miserable little people? laughing
            By the way, on Medved’s head there is a virtual reality helmet, which was recently presented to him in China, but not an iPhone! The difference must be understood! wink
            1. Saratoga833
              Saratoga833 16 January 2016 14: 06 New
              14
              Quote: Ami du peuple
              wearing a virtual reality helmet on his head

              So he walks with a similar helmet for many, many years! Without taking off!
              1. bannik
                bannik 16 January 2016 16: 18 New
                +5
                It seems that he has already provided the government with such helmets!
        2. Haettenschweiler
          Haettenschweiler 16 January 2016 12: 10 New
          15
          Quote: Ami du peuple
          Yes, in general an interesting situation is obtained. When the government decided who to appoint as head of the Russian delegation, they did not know that Tkachev was on the sanctions list? Or thought that a ride? Not a ride - once again Europe spat in our faces, but formally you can’t find fault. Who benefits from this?


          - The situation is all the more interesting because we have a mutual embargo, there are all kinds of sanctions, and here our Ministry of Agriculture is rushing to the German fair ... I don’t understand anything.
          1. vovanpain
            vovanpain 16 January 2016 12: 14 New
            22
            Quote: Haettenschweiler
            - The situation is all the more interesting because we have a mutual embargo, there are all kinds of sanctions, and here our Ministry of Agriculture is rushing to the German fair ... I don’t understand anything.

            And what is there to understand. Just ride at public expense, drink German beer with sausages, take a walk in Berlin and declare once again that Russian agriculture is reborn. request
            1. cap
              cap 16 January 2016 14: 49 New
              +2
              Quote: vovanpain
              Quote: Haettenschweiler
              - The situation is all the more interesting because we have a mutual embargo, there are all kinds of sanctions, and here our Ministry of Agriculture is rushing to the German fair ... I don’t understand anything.

              And what is there to understand. Just ride at public expense, drink German beer with sausages, take a walk in Berlin and declare once again that Russian agriculture is reborn. request


              Where else to offer? laughingDon’t go hungry.obesityobesity
        3. Yuyuka
          Yuyuka 16 January 2016 12: 43 New
          +7
          Yes, in general an interesting situation is obtained. When the government decided who to appoint as head of the Russian delegation, they did not know that Tkachev was on the sanctions list? Or thought that a ride? Not a ride - once again Europe spat in our faces, but formally you can’t find fault. Who benefits from this?

          and this is necessary for the public relations of our leaders - to raise another wave of cheap patriotism! Why - they didn’t let the Germans bastards! this is not a case to rejoice, on the contrary, it is necessary to pursue an aggressive policy in promoting your interests! and kindergarten - take your toys and don’t write in my pot! You have to be trickier and figure out possible troubles. Why shouldn’t I send another comrade with extended powers there? Tkachev is still a chatterbox, many friends from the Krasnodar Territory spoke about his affairs with pork, but I could not believe then ...
        4. Tatyana_VV
          Tatyana_VV 16 January 2016 13: 25 New
          +1
          Allegedly, for all 22 years, our delegation was led by ministers of agriculture. So they did not begin to change the usual.
      2. Amurets
        Amurets 16 January 2016 12: 24 New
        +8
        At such fairs, it is cheaper to buy C / X equipment, not everything was produced even in the Soviet Union. The latest production and processing technologies. And in these conditions, the line for processing agricultural raw materials into finished products would not be in the way. So the damage is mutual and who is of it lose more, another question, but in my opinion the Germans. I know what I'm talking about.
        1. Yuyuka
          Yuyuka 16 January 2016 12: 50 New
          +4
          So the mutual damage and who will lose more from this is another question, but in my opinion the Germans.

          это не вопрос - однозначно мы... нам как воздух нужны и станки, и техника именно сейчас, когда санкции. Поэтому чистое вредительство, когда такое происходит. В 30-е годы наши покупали оборудование и технику у проклятых капиталистов, потому как это нужно было для быстрого развития страны, а сейчас нам куда спешить? У нас же все есть, только мозгов государственных нема, все какая-то мелочь пузатая которая нажраться не может "национального достояния"!
          1. Amurets
            Amurets 16 January 2016 13: 09 New
            +7
            Quote: Yuyuka
            it’s not a question - we are definitely ... we need machines and equipment just like air right now, when there are sanctions.

            Это вопрос и вопрос очень сложный.Дело в том что во многих заводах Североамериканского С/Х-машиностроения высока доля Российских акций,а некоторые принадлежат России.Дело в том что кудринская финансовая политика привела к тому что дешевле платить ввозные пошлины,чем производить в России.Вылетела у меня из головы фамилия одного из руководитей Холдинга "Ростсельмаш".Так вот он говорил на одной из выставок-ярмарок в Амурской области,не для широкого круга,что вся представленная на выставке-ярмарке техника американского производства сделанная в США обошлась на 8-10%дешевле чем произвести её в России.И только потому что кредиты в России,дороже а налоги выше.А ведь всё представленное имело полные аналоги в России.
            1. Yuyuka
              Yuyuka 16 January 2016 13: 25 New
              +7
              And only because loans in Russia are more expensive and taxes are higher. But after all, everything presented had complete analogues in Russia.

              в том все и дело, что имело... сам был причастен к производству автоматизированных линий, умы были у нас, как сейчас понимаю, лучшие в мире - делать такие вещи при низкой технологической возможности! Не зря анекдот про "доработать напильником по месту" был - дорабатывали спецы-умницы! Токари вообще элита была в машиностроении, им не нужны были технологи, они смеялись над ними и повышали производительность в несколько раз своими "рацухами". У нас нет госполитики по тому, чтоб сделать конкурентной свою технику - начиная с энергоносителей для предприятий и налогов. А самое главное это правда - кредиты для производителей. Прям криком кричи - дайте возможность поднять СВОЁ производство! Правительству - да полистайте хучь учебник по истории по 30-м годам как провести индустриализацию всей страны!
              1. Amurets
                Amurets 17 January 2016 03: 31 New
                +2
                Quote: Yuyuka
                Не зря анекдот про "доработать напильником по месту" был - дорабатывали спецы-умницы!

                Мы с вами говорим об одном и том же.Финансовая политика нашего правительства ведёт к поддержке западной промышленности,а не собственного производства.И не надо думать что западное оборудование не дорабатываеся напильником.Сам видел как при монтаже оборудования фирмы "Лаваль"пришлось даже переделывать фундаменты.Не потому что строители накосячили,а потому что оборудование фирма заменила на другое без согласования,а чертежи фундаментов не прислало.
    5. PSih2097
      PSih2097 16 January 2016 16: 27 New
      +1
      Quote: jjj
      Tkachev should get hold of Syrian passportthen Angelica herself with open arms will accept

      Somali, Syrian is not currently quoted ...
    6. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov 16 January 2016 17: 13 New
      0
      Budget money will be more whole. A business trip is completely meaningless, but how much government money would be eaten and drank there?
    7. dmi.pris
      dmi.pris 16 January 2016 21: 15 New
      0
      And in a hijab .. German men are not envied, circumcision is inevitable ..
      Quote: jjj
      Tkachev should have a Syrian passport, then Angelica herself with open arms will accept
    8. Blondy
      Blondy 18 January 2016 11: 22 New
      0
      I, now, think: it is possible to pay contributions to PACE if they would adhere to the rules of an equal dialogue, but why the heck pay for the perverted satisfaction of all, mostly Eastern European, mongrels to punish and put in the corner of the Russian bear?
  2. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 16 January 2016 11: 39 New
    21
    Wait until we arrive on the tanks again ...
    1. KBR109
      KBR109 16 January 2016 15: 06 New
      +1
      I do not agree. The Germans - they are ugly. Is that for B.U. cars ...
      1. Tjeck
        Tjeck 16 January 2016 15: 47 New
        -1
        Don’t say there is a lot. In addition, finding a purebred German woman today is about as easy as finding a Buddhist among ISIS. Most young Germans are not purebred, and it benefited them.
      2. MIKHAN
        MIKHAN 16 January 2016 18: 56 New
        +1
        Quote: KBR109
        I do not agree. The Germans - they are ugly. Is that for B.U. cars ...

        You don’t understand anything in global politics ... First, German ... They remember the 45th and wait (grandmothers told them!))))
        1. TOR2
          TOR2 16 January 2016 21: 41 New
          +3
          Quote: MIKHAN
          They remember the 45th and wait (grandmothers told them!))))

          maybe someone told, but they remember something ... laughing
    2. dmmyak40
      dmmyak40 16 January 2016 18: 42 New
      +2
      This is a photo from Pyatigorsk, the intersection of Kalinin and Pastukhov. Armenians - for the Germans, harnesses for the ahpers!
  3. samarin1969
    samarin1969 16 January 2016 11: 40 New
    +3
    ...опять - "божья роса".
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    1. kil 31
      kil 31 16 January 2016 11: 44 New
      21
      Why go there? The EU has announced sanctions to us. Why show products if it is not possible to provide the customer? Some kind of nonsense or officials thought to ride in Europe for the state. score.
      1. BARKHAN
        BARKHAN 16 January 2016 12: 47 New
        +7
        Quote: keel 31
        or officials thought to ride in Europe for the state. score.

        That sounds very believable.
  5. svp67
    svp67 16 January 2016 11: 43 New
    16
    The Ministry of Agriculture of the Russian Federation considered it impossible for the Russian delegation to participate in the Berlin Green Week fair after the visa was denied to the head of the ministry, Alexander Tkachev, the agency’s statement told RIA Novosti.
    In this situation, I am only interested in one thing now - have we managed to transfer money for the right to participate?
    Если нет, то и Бог с этой "Зеленой...", а если - Да, то деньги назад вернем или снова подарим? Павильон, который снимала там российская делегация был один из самых крупных...
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  6. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 16 January 2016 11: 44 New
    +2
    So what ? Yes, they went to their favorite place. At least boys will save on business trips. They themselves will arrive.
  7. Oleneboy_
    Oleneboy_ 16 January 2016 11: 44 New
    +1
    The answer is necessary! Next time if Merkelsha wants to talk with Putin. He is not for her ... These are small dirty tricks ...
  8. maxim1987
    maxim1987 16 January 2016 11: 46 New
    +2
    ну и ладно. Все равно мы мало производим ""халяла" так что в Германии делать нечего winked
    1. MIKHAN
      MIKHAN 16 January 2016 11: 52 New
      +8
      Quote: maximNNX
      Well, okay. All the same, we produce little

      Зато вкусное и натуральное...Немцы в 41-ом еще требовали яйко,курко...Мы их потом "накормили" в 45-м от души!
      I think without Russian products, this fairs will look one-sided and corny .. The Russian spirit will obviously not be missed there!
  9. Kibl
    Kibl 16 January 2016 11: 50 New
    +3
    And rightly so, don’t catch horseradish in Europe! Foul vile!
    1. Oleneboy_
      Oleneboy_ 16 January 2016 11: 54 New
      +7
      There are miracles, there buggers roam laughing
      1. sir_obs
        sir_obs 16 January 2016 12: 05 New
        +2
        Miracles are when they do not roam.
      2. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 16 January 2016 12: 07 New
        +4
        Quote: Oleneboy_
        There are miracles, there buggers roam

        There Merkel refugees breeds
        1. Amurets
          Amurets 16 January 2016 12: 28 New
          +1
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          There Merkel refugees breeds

          And what is her age not an obstacle? How does a rabbit produce or a rat?
    2. Arbogast
      Arbogast 16 January 2016 12: 06 New
      +3
      Quote: KIBL
      And rightly so, don’t catch horseradish in Europe! Foul vile!
      Oops lol?! Sam, what do you catch there? In the cesspool vile?
      А касамо "хрена" Ткачёва, может кто ответит, как он ответил за Кущёвку в вверенном ему регионе?! А Крымск?!
      1. avia1991
        avia1991 16 January 2016 12: 25 New
        +5
        Quote: Arbogast
        Sam, what do you catch there?

        Latvia is the USSR, not Europe, for many Russians who have been living there all their lives. Moreover, Liepaja is a city of military glory of Soviet sailors! Himself, with the banner of the eurozone, what are you doing here?
        Что до Ткачева - он из той же обоймы, что и остальная "элита", смешно ожидать, что кто-то его призовет к ответственности.
        1. Arbogast
          Arbogast 16 January 2016 22: 59 New
          +1
          Quote: avia1991
          Latvia is the USSR, not Europe
          Pgavda belay ?!
          At the referendum of 20 of September 2003 of the year 66,97% of the population voted for Latvia to join the EU. 32,26% voted against. October 30 2003 The Latvian Seimas ratified the agreement on Latvia's accession to the EU. (Neatkariga Rita Avize).
          1 May 2004 - Latvia has become a full member country of the European Union.
          February 2004 - 19 NATO member states ratify protocols on Latvia's accession to the North Atlantic Alliance (NATO)
          .
          Quote: avia1991
          Itself, with the banner of the eurozone, what are you doing here?
          Same as you in the godless American Internet ..
          Quote: avia1991
          Что до Ткачева - он из той же обоймы, что и остальная "элита", смешно ожидать, что кто-то его призовет к ответственности
          А Владимир Владимирович тоже из "этих" repeat?!
          Quote: Setrac
          Escho, let PADONAK answer for the Chelyabinsk meteorite
          Comrade Armenian, could Tkachev prevent the events in Kushchevskaya and Krymsk, in contrast to the fall of the Chelyabinsk meteorite ?!
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          2. alexej123
            alexej123 17 January 2016 22: 14 New
            +1
            Ну, за Крымск не знаю, ситуация спорная. А вот за Кущёвку - полностью правы. Этот беспредел творился в районе около 10 лет. Это не одномоментный эксцесс исполнителя. Говорят, что Цапок красовался на инаугурации Ткачёва. А "куратором" Цапков вроде был первый зам, который после событий пропал, а потом умер. И ещё, помню как Президент ДАМ, по центральным каналам СМИ, дал указание Ткачёву и полпреду в ЮФО о докладе ему через две недели результатов расследования. Ждал, но так результатов и не дождался.
      2. Setrac
        Setrac 16 January 2016 15: 54 New
        -3
        Quote: Arbogast
        А касамо "хрена" Ткачёва, может кто ответит, как он ответил за Кущёвку в вверенном ему регионе?! А Крымск?!

        Escho, let PADONAK answer for the Chelyabinsk meteorite.
  10. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 16 January 2016 11: 59 New
    +7
    Why did you plan if you knew in advance about the result? And, in general, what kind of food and agricultural exhibition, if Europe is under food sanctions? Just to ride at public expense.
  11. lysyj bob
    lysyj bob 16 January 2016 12: 01 New
    +1
    А чему удивляться?После нашего ответа на их санкции им своё "гмо" девать некуда.Нас на этом рынке никто видеть не хочет.
    1. Schulz
      Schulz 16 January 2016 12: 14 New
      +1
      In the GMO market?
      1. lysyj bob
        lysyj bob 16 January 2016 12: 23 New
        0
        Н е ГМО а "гмо".Это была метафора.
  12. awersa
    awersa 16 January 2016 12: 01 New
    0
    Again, fig GMOs stand out ...
  13. ALABAY45
    ALABAY45 16 January 2016 12: 03 New
    +1
    Долбодойчляндам полтора миллиона гостей бараниной кормить надо,а,они рыло воротят! Им,бурятским "бронетанковым фермерам" надо ноги целовать! Или,"гостей" уже приучили к: айсбану с квашеной капустой,пивному шницелю с пивом,штирийскиому гуляшу или кислому каббесу?! good По-всей видимости,венцом "академической деятельности" г-жи Меркель, станет "СВИНИНА С ЧЕРНОСЛИВОМ"...!? recourse
  14. Ros 56
    Ros 56 16 January 2016 12: 07 New
    +1
    And they did it right. What can you talk with striped vassals about at all, Pour from empty to empty, an extra waste of money and time. In fact, the weak always bow to the strong.
    1. BARKHAN
      BARKHAN 16 January 2016 12: 57 New
      +2
      Quote: Ros 56
      And they did it right. What can you talk with striped vassals about at all, Pour from empty to empty, an extra waste of money and time. In fact, the weak always bow to the strong.

      Well, yes, after they banned, they certainly did the right thing. And if they allowed it?
      Now there is a situation in which it is not clear who wiped his feet about whom.
  15. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 16 January 2016 12: 13 New
    +9
    Look at the photo how to choose Russian products ... They smell real and not glossy! I even began to eat apples lately (they smell like childhood tastes), and before these huge shiny waxes .. Horror!
    1. Balagan
      Balagan 17 January 2016 03: 30 New
      +1
      I agree! I also don’t take fraternal bourgeois wax apples, although they are ten cheaper than Krasnodar apples. Kuban at least smell of apples! Yes, and some satisfaction arises - that our apples are on the shelves.
  16. hannibal lecter
    hannibal lecter 16 January 2016 12: 14 New
    +4
    What is the Orthodox doing there? Let them themselves discuss whether it is necessary to cut a sheep up to the throat with a knife and whether at this moment allah Akbar should be shouted. And how much this meat will be more expensive than usual.
  17. avia1991
    avia1991 16 January 2016 12: 19 New
    +5
    Крупнейшая в Европе ярмарка "Зелёная неделя", собирающая ежегодно сотни тысяч посетителей, впервые почти за 23 года пройдёт без участия России.
    So maybe it's for the better? Is it time to stop already praying to the West? You might think that there’s nothing to do inside the country. Or are we all hoping for a return on food imports - just not to invest in our own economy?
    Уже который раз возят гейроперы наших политиканов фэйсом по тэйблу - а до наших всё не доходит, что пора бы учиться уважать себя, и страну, которую представляешь.. Или Ткачев "забыл", что он под санкциями? НА ЧТО НАДЕЯЛСЯ?..
    1. Gormenghast
      Gormenghast 16 January 2016 12: 28 New
      +4
      It is necessary to participate in fairs and arms exhibitions.

      But on food - it was never necessary; all 23 years did not have to participate - food should be its own. In the meantime, the Russian embargo is in force - and even more so, it is not necessary.
  18. please
    please 16 January 2016 12: 22 New
    +1
    гансам Ткачёва в опу целовать надо,а они рыло воротят.Пора думать о встречных "подарках" всему гейропейскому обществу , а то совсем страх потеряли.Или всё рассчитывают на толерантную Московскую тусовку?
    1. Amurets
      Amurets 16 January 2016 12: 51 New
      +3
      Quote: svp
      Hans of Tkachev should be kissed in the opera, but they will turn the snout

      Я с 2008г не работаю на агрофирме,но в ту пору у нас на область, по программе поддержки сельского хозяйства,пошло оборудование для молочного хозяйства,целые комплексы молочного производства.От обработки земли под кормовые культуры до сдачи молока на молочный комбинат.И весь комплекс работал на импортной технике.Так вот получилась у ЕС двойная потеря, и технику Китай и Белоруссия производят,так ещё и готовую продукцию перестали у них покупать.А наша основная продукция "СОЯ" на УРА уходит в КНР.Кому интересно,загляните в энциклопедию,что производят из сои.
      1. avia1991
        avia1991 16 January 2016 16: 01 New
        0
        Quote: Amurets
        А наша основная продукция "СОЯ" на УРА уходит в КНР.

        And what else do the Chinese suppliers buy from us, is there infa? Do not throw in a personal? Interest is not idle ..
        1. alexej123
          alexej123 17 January 2016 16: 09 New
          0
          I know about our enterprise - now it’s flour, by the way, Yu. Korea too.
      2. alexej123
        alexej123 17 January 2016 16: 08 New
        +1
        A colleague, myself, also with 2008, after retiring, I work in a large agricultural holding. For soy, the truth. After its deep processing, the Chinese get a lot of interesting and necessary products. It is a pity there are practically no such enterprises in Russia. We, in the Krasnodar Territory, purchased equipment for such an enterprise. 2008 struck, crisis, expensive credit and all.
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  19. yuriy55
    yuriy55 16 January 2016 12: 40 New
    +6
    Пора сидеть дома а не устраивать Валтасаровы пиры, разъезжая по европам. Пусть они там посещают свои "Зелёные ярмарки", а вы, будучи министрами, устраивайте сельскохозяйственные ярмарки в своей стране, чтобы отечественному производителю продуктов было "привольно, и весело" и прибыльно... yes
  20. ALAVIA
    ALAVIA 16 January 2016 12: 48 New
    +1
    Quote: Pancho
    Quote: Egoza
    It is better to increase productivity at home and reduce the price for Russians.

    Are you talking about Tkachev? Well, well, this businessman in the Krasnodar Territory worked out to the point where our Egyptian potatoes cost 3 times cheaper than Kuban. And the quality is better. I even saw potatoes produced in Saudi Arabia in our region too. And I thought that there In addition to sand and oil, there is nothing. By the way, Tkachev completely destroyed private pig farming in the Kuban. And they made this felt boots a minister.

    all right! bad person!
  21. Al ssz
    Al ssz 16 January 2016 12: 51 New
    +1
    У него свой "семейный" аграрный бизнес. И не факт что он хотел поехать туда по Государственным, а не по своим личным "делам" за государственный счёт. Прокуратура уже заинтересовалась, не мешает-ли одно другому. Немцам тоже такие кренделя не нужны, и они по своему правы. Зачем им нужна очередная головная боль..
  22. kapitan92
    kapitan92 16 January 2016 13: 07 New
    +9
    Let's try to more objectively consider the situation with visa refusals to the Russian Minister of Agriculture.
    Firstly, THIS is the third spit in the direction of Russia: deprivation of a vote in the Council of Europe, denial of Finns a visa to Naryshkin, denial of a visa to Minister Tkachev. Who benefits?
    Чтобы продать товар, туже свинину, надо "товар показать лицом". Уверен, что кроме свинины у России есть более серьезный экспортный потенциал с/х продукции.При рассмотрении этого аспекта делаем вывод, что Россию не хотят допускать на рынки и не только Европы, ибо в выставке участвуют порядка 70 стран.
    Безусловно присутствует грязная политика наших "партнеров": выставка это презентация страны и ее возможностей, а получается санкции ввели-экспортный потенциал России в области с/х продукции вырос.
    Thirdly: do not forget that in the 90s seed production in Russia was partially lost and two-thirds of the seeds were imported from abroad. New technologies in the field of manufacturing of agricultural products would not hinder.
    And it doesn’t matter whether good or bad Tkachev is HE Minister of Russia !! Another spit in the direction of our country!
    Whether courage and political will is enough for our liberals in the government, time will tell.
    1. MIKHAN
      MIKHAN 16 January 2016 13: 17 New
      +1
      Quote: kapitan92
      Whether courage and political will is enough for our liberals in the government, time will tell.

      You need to work silently and purposefully, simply ... And they have enough will and anger! laughing
      1. Schulz
        Schulz 16 January 2016 13: 27 New
        +2
        Quote: MIKHAN

        You need to work silently and purposefully

        Can you develop your thoughts and tell us all how to work? Maybe many do not know how to do it right and do not work correctly.
        1. MIKHAN
          MIKHAN 16 January 2016 14: 49 New
          +5
          Quote: Schulz
          Quote: MIKHAN

          You need to work silently and purposefully

          Can you develop your thoughts and tell us all how to work? Maybe many do not know how to do it right and do not work correctly.

          Well, firstly, do not scream, secondly, do not look for the guilty .. (we have capitalism and everyone is for ourselves), and thirdly, think and analyze ... What happened and what became! (25 years have passed) And draw conclusions! Sausage of dozens of varieties stuck in the throat ...
          1. cap
            cap 16 January 2016 15: 09 New
            +3
            Quote: MIKHAN
            Well, firstly, do not scream, secondly, do not look for the guilty .. (we have capitalism and everyone is for ourselves), and thirdly, think and analyze ... What happened and what became! (25 years have passed) And draw conclusions! Sausage of dozens of varieties stuck in the throat ...

            Just reading and counting is already helpful. hi
            “Today, Russia is a major world exporter of a huge range of non-primary, high-tech goods and services, and even if tomorrow suddenly our oil and gas ceases to be bought at all - this does not threaten any economic catastrophe.

            Here's what it looks like to start with the general figures, according to the Central Bank for 2013
            In total, in 2013, goods were exported for 523 billion dollars and services for 70 billion dollars.
            In total, Russia received from all exports 593 billion dollars in 2013 year
            Of these, crude oil was sold at 174 billion, oil products at 109 billion, natural gas at 67 billion, liquefied gas at 5 billion.
            That is, hydrocarbons and its derivatives were exported at $ 355 billion in 2013

            It turns out that Russia received 238 billion dollars in 2013 from the export of goods and services, in addition to oil and gas.

            238 billion non-fuel exports - is it a lot or a little?
            For comparison, the total total export of goods and services of Russia in 2004 was about 204 billion.
            Does anyone remember the 2004 economic apocalypse? No? This is because he was not there. Somehow we were able to survive such a meager export. And in previous years, exports were even lower - and nothing, like a quinoa, wasn’t eaten. ”
            https://maxpark.com/community/5134/content/2755001
            1. Schulz
              Schulz 16 January 2016 16: 18 New
              +5
              “Today, Russia is a major global exporter of a huge range of non-primary, high-tech goods and services ...
              It turns out that Russia received 238 billion dollars in 2013 from the export of goods and services, in addition to oil and gas.

              Great start! Do not stop and announce to us the entire spectrum in billions of dollars. these high-tech goods and services, so that we would all be happy together.
              And then I heard that against the Turkish builders building stadiums for the 2018 World Cup they are going to lift the sanctions because we may not have time to hand over the facilities on time. And this is against the backdrop of a crisis in the construction industry and a large number of specialists in the construction industry who are being released.
            2. avia1991
              avia1991 16 January 2016 21: 20 New
              +3
              Quote: cap
              It turns out that Russia received 238 billion dollars in 2013 from the export of goods and services, in addition to oil and gas.

              You consider the shaft - and you need to consider the profit, because it is on its basis that the revenue part of the budget is formed. And the hydrocarbons, which are our property, give profit as they would ..
              I do not know, что Вы считаете "высокотехнологичной продукцией", выпускаемой в России. Хотелось бы увидеть подробности, потому что немалая доля предприятий, способных к выпуску именно высокотехнологичных товаров, частично, но в значительной мере, принадлежит иностранцам. И считать прибыль этих предприятий "нашей".. не совсем корректно, так скажем wassat
              And finally:
              Quote: cap
              Here's what it looks like to start with the general figures, according to the Central Bank for 2013
              Are you seriously ready to operate with the statistics of the Central Bank, as an argument? Take a ride on the cities of central Russia: how many you will find large enterprises, fully working, and producing products with quality worthy of export?
              Reality and statistics often diverge greatly .. hi
          2. Schulz
            Schulz 16 January 2016 16: 07 New
            0
            Quote: MIKHAN

            Well, firstly, do not scream, secondly, do not look for the guilty .. (we have capitalism and everyone is for ourselves), and thirdly, think and analyze ... What happened and what became! (25 years have passed) And draw conclusions! Sausage of dozens of varieties stuck in the throat ...

            Does all this have to be done during work or not? So for example, personally, during work, I’m not screaming and not looking for the guilty, but I’m working.
            I think that I analyze and draw conclusions after work and it is unclear how this relates to your previous post.
            PS: Even I didn’t understand anything how to work correctly.
            1. MIKHAN
              MIKHAN 16 January 2016 16: 54 New
              +3
              Quote: Schulz
              Quote: MIKHAN

              Well, firstly, do not scream, secondly, do not look for the guilty .. (we have capitalism and everyone is for ourselves), and thirdly, think and analyze ... What happened and what became! (25 years have passed) And draw conclusions! Sausage of dozens of varieties stuck in the throat ...

              Does all this have to be done during work or not? So for example, personally, during work, I’m not screaming and not looking for the guilty, but I’m working.
              I think that I analyze and draw conclusions after work and it is unclear how this relates to your previous post.
              PS: Even I didn’t understand anything how to work correctly.

              You understand me perfectly! If you want to banter, please! hi My guardian angel forbids me to work ... I had a heart attack, I broke my leg .. I work for the state) in the financial sphere)))) And where else am I? Damn it ... evil is not enough .. am Far from retirement there is still a lot of strength, a lot of experience ... Ekarny babai, you are a cat! am
    2. ALAVIA
      ALAVIA 16 January 2016 13: 28 New
      0
      Now in the Krasnodar Territory a new governor.
      a good person, as I see it (I live here). and things are going well.
      1. KBR109
        KBR109 16 January 2016 15: 00 New
        +1
        I also live here. Point blank did not notice ...
    3. Fat
      Fat 16 January 2016 16: 42 New
      +2
      Very well organized smile плевок. Назначение Ткачева - издевка над германцами и ЕС (Что, никто в правительстве не читал "санкционного списка"?). Зато теперь можно гордо сказать "Фи!". Не сомневаюсь, специалисты АПК РФ умело работают и в "гостевом режиме". Становиться участниками совсем необязательно ради пары десятков контрактов, да еще посылать целого министра.
      Summary: Sanctions stupidity ultimately beneficial to the Russian Federation wink
  23. Red_Hamer
    Red_Hamer 16 January 2016 13: 25 New
    +4
    Just washed down a competitor (Russia) in the bud, and the whole story. This we were thrown about fair competition in the global market. At the same time, they themselves go to any absolutely unlawful meanness. Russia is also accused of all mortal sins. Sneaky, you know very well in European.
    1. Ros 56
      Ros 56 16 January 2016 14: 38 New
      0
      Quote: Red_Hamer
      Sneaky, you know very well in European.


      На эту тему, не помню конкретики, но помню слова политолога Дмитрия Куликова - "не говорите при мне про международное право".
      That is, all this talk of law is a veil in order to secure an advantage by any means, including the use of weapons.
  24. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 16 January 2016 13: 31 New
    +8
    Eh Frau Merkel, with Russians you can, only honestly (O. Bismarck) Traded us for these ..? Well, the flag of tolerance in your hands and Obama whip in the loin ... drinks And we will drink Bavarian beer once again all the same in Berlin! drinks
    1. BARKHAN
      BARKHAN 16 January 2016 21: 05 New
      +3
      So they are also outraged when the plans are held together ...
      Европейская бюрократия обиделась на Россию. Во вторник брюссельских бюрократов "прорвало". Еврокомиссар по торговле Сесилия Мальстрем начала возмущаться тем, что на трехсторонних переговорах об изменении торгового режима между Россией и Украиной, Москва отстаивала национальные интересы и требовала от ЕС подписания юридически обязывающего соглашения. Причину, по которым в Еврокомиссии с этим требованием не согласились, стоит процитировать: "Это означало бы вскрытие двустороннего соглашения между Киевом и ЕС". Иными словами от России в Брюсселе ждали исключительно односторонних уступок. И возмутились, что не дождались…
      Boltology designed for liberals and downs ...
      1. TOR2
        TOR2 16 January 2016 21: 51 New
        +1
        They were already upset ....
        Refugee raped mannequin and scared Europe with his sex

        https://vk.com/video-57876285_171754507?list=de9cc5c2adf496bb71
  25. ALAVIA
    ALAVIA 16 January 2016 13: 54 New
    0
    And actually it’s not clear where there is no confident hand of GDP, Russia has a “puncture” ...
    Maybe as it should, so that Tkachev does not go ... ???
  26. bpa1949
    bpa1949 16 January 2016 14: 00 New
    -1
    Quote: Pancho
    Quote: Egoza
    It is better to increase productivity at home and reduce the price for Russians.

    Are you talking about Tkachev? Well, well, this businessman in the Krasnodar Territory worked out to the point where our Egyptian potatoes cost 3 times cheaper than Kuban. And the quality is better. I even saw potatoes produced in Saudi Arabia in our region too. And I thought that there In addition to sand and oil, there is nothing. By the way, Tkachev completely destroyed private pig farming in the Kuban. And they made this felt boots a minister.

    Birds of a feather flock together...
  27. ALAVIA
    ALAVIA 16 January 2016 14: 13 New
    0
    The fisherman sees the fisherman from far ... [/ quote]
    I agree.
    But here is another ...
    Put the pig at the table, she and her legs on the table! So Obama sits at the table ...
    and everything around this table is on its hind legs.
    And do not so firstly, secondly ...
  28. ALAVIA
    ALAVIA 16 January 2016 14: 38 New
    -1
    Quote: MIKHAN
    Look at the photo how to choose Russian products ... They smell real and not glossy! I even began to eat apples lately (they smell like childhood tastes), and before these huge shiny waxes .. Horror!

    Men were also asked a question: how to choose?
    Here is the answer.
  29. ALAVIA
    ALAVIA 16 January 2016 14: 44 New
    0
    Quote: MIKHAN
    Look at the photo how to choose Russian products ... They smell real and not glossy! I even began to eat apples lately (they smell like childhood tastes), and before these huge shiny waxes .. Horror!

    And pig meat too.
    If frozen - a small piece, and on fire (match).
    1. MIKHAN
      MIKHAN 16 January 2016 17: 18 New
      +3
      Quote: ALAVIA
      Quote: MIKHAN
      Look at the photo how to choose Russian products ... They smell real and not glossy! I even began to eat apples lately (they smell like childhood tastes), and before these huge shiny waxes .. Horror!

      And pig meat too.
      If frozen - a small piece, and on fire (match).

      And I can carve pigs! I didn’t cut it myself, but
      held and processed clearly, and then fresh meat ... Vkusnatischa! This is something from the subconscious instincts of the hunter ... Now it all ruined (compound) expensive food.! And now I would have overwhelmed one boar and, as I should have done, just feed it with bonded (fresh meat) ... Tired of this muck there is a Western ... angry
      1. d1975
        d1975 16 January 2016 18: 56 New
        +2
        In that year, we were very afraid to keep for ourselves, it’s just impossible, quarantine, this year everyone went underground and ...... to this quarantine, there is no longer tolerable plastic, and GMO is not necessary here.
  30. KBR109
    KBR109 16 January 2016 14: 57 New
    +1
    That’s for sure, Sergey, there’s a lot more to come. Especially pork in Krasnodar, bare ribs not lower than 300 rubles. belay[/ quote] This is not true. stop Normal is 230. Good is 250.
    1. BaLaLaykin
      BaLaLaykin 16 January 2016 15: 20 New
      +1
      don’t worry so much, it’s seen the comrade of the last hedgehog traded for an Internet coupon in order to tell everyone how hard it was to live wink
    2. d1975
      d1975 16 January 2016 18: 53 New
      +1
      wassat What do you mean by the word normal ???
  31. Maj.
    Maj. 16 January 2016 15: 17 New
    +2
    Quote: Egoza
    Quote: NIKNN
    And they could talk about apples and tomatoes, and talk about sprats. laughing woodpeckers they again set themselves a bandwagon

    And what? Russia will not live without their tomato and sprat? Figs with them. It is better to increase productivity at home and reduce the price for Russians.

    I read, I read, and I’m becoming more and more affirmed, you talkers, gentlemen, have a strong chat, but you’re doing nothing. Although not there, but closer to the abyss. How else should we tighten the nuts so that the uncle commander takes a whip and makes it work (including the tops)
    1. BARKHAN
      BARKHAN 16 January 2016 21: 10 New
      +3
      Quote: major
      I read, I read, and I’m becoming more and more affirmed, you talkers, gentlemen, have a strong chat, but you’re doing nothing. Although not there, but closer to the abyss. How else should we tighten the nuts so that the uncle commander takes a whip and makes it work (including the tops)

      Kindly your suggestions. And a step-by-step instruction on how to get out of this situation ...
  32. gergi
    gergi 16 January 2016 15: 38 New
    0
    The foreign voyage of Tkachev at our expense did not take place! Universal grief! And do not climb to where you are not accused, so as not to get a candelabrum in the face. You need to be more modest. Do not play around.
  33. Yuyuka
    Yuyuka 16 January 2016 15: 43 New
    -1
    I read, I read, and more and more I affirm, you talkers, gentlemen, have a strong chat, but you’re doing nothing. Here we’re chatting, time is running out and things are still there. Although it’s not there, but closer to the abyss. How else should we tighten the nuts so that the uncle commander takes a whip and makes it work (including the tops)

    а может болтуны те, кто кричит "уря" и обзывает всех болтунами? негоже тут ярлыки всем вешать! али видеокамера за всеми следит? так тем более бездельнику лопату в руки! Сейчас у нас принцип сформулированный еще в 60-е "Кто не работает - тот ест! Учись, студент!"(с)
    а вот насчет верхушки эт точно - пороть надо... "А может не надо?.. - Надо, Федя...(Дима, Саня... и др) Надо!" hi
  34. Chulman
    Chulman 16 January 2016 15: 47 New
    0
    I have been telling my people for a long time: our potato grows poorly! It’s easier to buy. Let's grow more other vegetables! laughing
    1. MIKHAN
      MIKHAN 16 January 2016 18: 48 New
      +1
      Quote: Chulman
      I have been telling my people for a long time: our potato grows poorly! It’s easier to buy. Let's grow more other vegetables! laughing

      Yes, it’s easier to buy kartohu ... But disgusting, that one! Checked (thanks to parents ..)
  35. 1536
    1536 16 January 2016 18: 17 New
    +4
    Похоже, немцы дают понять, что "в случае чего", и из России вдруг попытается побежать её так называемая "элита" (бывшие "школьные учителя", бывшие зав. лабораториями в НИИ и КБ, а также бывший комсомольско-партийный актив и их дети), то в Европу их больше не пустят. "Переселения душ", как было после 1917-го, не произойдет. Делом надо заниматься у себя на Родине, ребята!
    Well, in general, it pleases. Russia is becoming a self-sufficient country in any event.
  36. MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 16 January 2016 18: 17 New
    +2
    For the liberals and their masters .... We will break through! The song is old, but now very relevant ...
  37. d1975
    d1975 16 January 2016 18: 51 New
    +1
    Quote: Temples
    Private pigs throughout the south are slaughtered.
    This way of competition)))
    The bureaucrats are mastering budget money - they are building pig farms for themselves.
    Previously from rags to riches, now the reverse story wassat
    And they do not know how to trade otherwise.
    All other manufacturers are simply destroyed.
    The big question is:
    -from whom more harm from sanctions or from bureaucrats of homegrown ???

    Yes, that’s right, but what they’re sticking to us is not meat at all — the collection table of D&M Mendeleev!
  38. ALAVIA
    ALAVIA 16 January 2016 19: 30 New
    +1
    Quote: Temples
    А вот прежние "министры" просто сказка:
    - Fedorov, Nikolai Vasilievich - lawyer.
    - Skrynnik, Elena Borisovna - cardiologist.
    - Alexey Vasilievich Gordeev - engineer of communications


    And here, it would not be necessary for ALL and all under one toast ...
    Alexey Gordeev
    Russian statesman
    Russian statesman, governor of the Voronezh region since March 12, 2009. From 1999 to 2009 - Minister of Agriculture of Russia. Doctor of Economics, professor, full member of RAAS, academician of the Russian Academy of Sciences. Member of the Bureau of the Supreme Council of the United Russia Party.
  39. garnik64
    garnik64 16 January 2016 20: 49 New
    +4
    Tkachev needs to close the screwdriver assembly of the German CLASS combines in Krasnodar. He is in charge of this company. Vladimir Putin hinted to him that it would be better to promote the Rostselmashevsky combine. And he paid for Kushchevka with the agricultural complex / Vyselki /. In general, Krasnodar blooms in the literal and figurative sense.
    1. d1975
      d1975 16 January 2016 23: 33 New
      +1
      Yes, I heard it too, I don’t feel like believing, but most likely it’s true that only Tsapko’s photo and some, well, just accidentally got into the frame, no luck! request And then when they say that we have the whole class in the Kuban, why do citizens think that? We can and should live even better, everything is for this. In essence, some live, but simple people don’t. And stop pouring here, drive through, look, see, and then say. Paper is a good thing, it tolerates everything!
  40. 31rus
    31rus 16 January 2016 22: 59 New
    0
    Уважаемые,вы обсуждаете фигуру или человека,а проблема даже не в Ткачеве,проблема в том что наше "умное" правительство как смотрело на Запад ,так и смотрит,как заигрывать,так и продолжает,вот главная проблема,само изложение ситуации,"... российская делегация сожалеет ...",вот эти слова просто убивают,кто и о чем сожалеет? Отлично,что не пустили,работы дома много,а то еще до чего договорятся и опять тысячи фермеров разорятся в России,на благо десятка чинуш
    1. d1975
      d1975 16 January 2016 23: 34 New
      +1
      Yes, here are a few comets from the Kuban, but the truth is! angry
  41. KBPC50
    KBPC50 17 January 2016 00: 25 New
    0
    There is nothing for us to do among these well-fed, self-righteous, who have killed many civilizations. We are Russia. We are Great Russians. And they are only GEYROPYTS.
  42. Orionvit
    Orionvit 17 January 2016 00: 55 New
    0
    Quote: Pancho
    Quote: askort154
    I myself grew up in the Kuban and I know that the Kuban lands are not for potatoes, too

    Каждый кубанец - с детства агроном что ли? На родине моего отца в Тамбовской области чернозем уж наверно "жирнее" кубанского ,но картошка там объедение.Кстати черноземные области России не в курсе ,что у них земли по Вашему для картошки не пригодные ,сажают по чем зря.

    In the Kuban, the climate for potatoes is not very, very dry, it is good closer to the foothills. For example, Zelenchukskaya potato in Stavropol and Krasnodar Krai has always been famous. And about the visa, boycott nafig European goods.
  43. PValery53
    PValery53 17 January 2016 01: 00 New
    +1
    Who forbade the entry of the Russian minister to Germany? - German Foreign Ministry? - Henceforth, until the apology of the German Foreign Ministry, do not let all the representatives of this Ministry of Foreign Affairs into Russia. And return our ambassador to Faterland for a while.
  44. Robert Nevsky
    Robert Nevsky 17 January 2016 15: 04 New
    0
    Our fellows, keep it up !!!
  45. VB
    VB 17 January 2016 15: 57 New
    +2
    А Цапки в Краснодарском крае не в его губернаторство там действовали? А прокуроры в Сочи не при нём землю скупили? А в том-же Сочи на постройке олимпийских комплексов не при нём одни коррупционные скандалы? Заслуживает вместе с ещё одним бывшим губернатором громовым, который тоже "не знал", как разворовывали Московскую область на миллиарды долларов прогулки не в Европу, а где даже летом холодно в пальто. Достойные люди из команды гаранта, правда неизвестно чего...
  46. polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 17 January 2016 16: 29 New
    0
    Нечего там делать , пусть лучше дома обеспечивает преференции родному сельскому хозяйству,свое развивать надо.Будет сельское хозяйство на высоте ,-значит не будем голодными , сытому санкции "по барабану "!
  47. Chaos
    Chaos 17 January 2016 17: 44 New
    +1
    another spineless minister, appointed not for his business qualities, but for arching his back in the right direction. The person who drew up the country's agricultural work plan for the next 5-10 years should be appointed to the post of minister. Approved by scientists working in agricultural, Ministry of Finance, etc. What did Tkachev at the post of chief in the Krasnodar Territory? never mind. His main task was to organize a spa industry so that they did not go to Turkey, but to our coast at low prices. Nothing done. A mess in the Krasnodar Territory !!!
    admitted Kushchevskaya. How did he work ?, if he didn’t even know what was being done under his nose, and now he was entrusted to the whole country.
  48. An64
    An64 17 January 2016 21: 34 New
    +1
    If without emotion, it turns out the following:
    - the fact that Tkachev knew everything under sanctions;
    - the fact that sanctions politicians are not granted visas - everyone knows;
    - the Russian exposition at the exhibition is expanded - money spent;
    - ah-ah: what happened was what was supposed to happen - Tkachev was not allowed;
    - do not go all - money spent - in! in spite of grandmother frostbite ears!
  49. Shurik70
    Shurik70 18 January 2016 02: 14 New
    +1
    Quote: An64
    If without emotion, it turns out the following:
    - the fact that Tkachev knew everything under sanctions;
    - the fact that sanctions politicians are not granted visas - everyone knows;
    - the Russian exposition at the exhibition is expanded - money spent;
    - ah-ah: what happened was what was supposed to happen - Tkachev was not allowed;
    - we don’t go all - the money spent - to the railway station !!! in spite of grandmother frostbite ears!


    Во-первых, я нигде не нашёл сведений, что "деньги потрачены". Везде только "собирались потратить".

    Во-вторых, на эту выставку всегда Россию представлял министр сельского хозяйства. Так что отказавшись от традиции посылать министра, или сменив министра в угоду "санкциям" тем самым проявим слабость. Поддаваться нельзя ни в коем случае. Уступать можно лишь при взаимных уступках, а не когда тебе диктуют с позиции "господина".

    And thirdly, until the sanctions are lifted, we will not buy their products, but they are ours. Well, what for money to spend on the organization of the exhibition, from which there will be no return?

    Be president Zhirinovsky, just honestly nafig would send Europe. But President Putin, and he is trying not to take irreversible steps. So, although we don’t need to send a delegation, we need a reason that we don’t want to, and they didn’t let us in.

    And here such a chic reason not to go - our minister is not allowed.
    А поскольку санкции в обозримом будущем не отменят, можно ожидать, что даже при смене Ткачёва на посту министра следующего выберут тоже из "чёрного" списка. Чтоб был повод опять не поехать.
  50. Klibanophoros
    Klibanophoros 18 January 2016 02: 15 New
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    For with the snout of the feudal lord in Europe is not allowed.