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Two US military helicopters collided off the coast of the Hawaiian Islands

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TV channel CBS reports that last night two American military helicopters collided in the Hawaiian Islands. The incident occurred on the northern coast of Oahu. On board the two helicopters were a total of 12 people (along with crew members). It is known that both helicopters flew into the air from the same military base.


Two US military helicopters collided off the coast of the Hawaiian Islands


It is reported that after the collision the helicopters fell into the water. A few minutes after the collision, the coast guard boats found fragments on the surface of the ocean, as well as an empty liferaft, at the crash site. Part of the wreckage of the helicopters was engulfed in flames. Neither the survivors, nor the bodies of the dead by now, as reported by the American media, have been found. The search and rescue operation is complicated by serious excitement at sea. Waves in the area of ​​one of the largest Hawaiian islands, Oahu, reach an altitude of 12 meters.

A coast guard officer reported that the collision of two helicopters, the cause of which is not yet clear, occurred around 23: 35 local time. According to the American officer, the chances of finding fewer survivors after the crash are every minute.
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  1. A-Sim
    A-Sim 15 January 2016 15: 59 New
    19
    "The truth is somewhere near ..."


    Razdolbaystvo someone's.
    1. vorobey
      vorobey 15 January 2016 16: 01 New
      32
      Quote: A-Sim
      "The truth is somewhere near ..."


      Razdolbaystvo someone's.


      Yes and do not care ...
      1. Haettenschweiler
        Haettenschweiler 15 January 2016 16: 03 New
        40
        - And in Hollywood films everything is so beautiful: crashed, survived, you sit on an inflatable raft and chew chocolate from emergency rations, while an aircraft carrier hurries to you at the signal of an emergency beacon sewn into his underpants.
        1. cniza
          cniza 15 January 2016 16: 05 New
          23
          Putin is probably to blame again, but people are always sorry.
          1. Vorobey-1
            Vorobey-1 15 January 2016 16: 37 New
            23
            Condolences to the relatives of the victims.
            ... and congratulations to the pontagon on the loss of two cars!
          2. Denis Obukhov
            Denis Obukhov 15 January 2016 17: 01 New
            +2
            Quote: cniza
            Putin is probably to blame again, but people are always sorry.



            they will probably write on the censor that they saw a personal Putin)))
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            1. Bayonet
              Bayonet 16 January 2016 07: 00 New
              +4
              Quote: edwardwar
              nifiga freaks do not mind

              Was personally familiar with everyone? All ? It’s not humanly ...
          4. Reserve officer
            Reserve officer 15 January 2016 21: 56 New
            +8
            No, not Putin. Everything is much simpler. Probably everyone was shouting - "Get out of the US helicopter course!"
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        3. Vladimirets
          Vladimirets 15 January 2016 16: 14 New
          +3
          Quote: Haettenschweiler
          sewn into underpants

          Stitched in what is in shorts. yes
          Quote: Haettenschweiler
          hurries aircraft carrier.

          Or two, and the president personally controls the operation.
        4. Scoun
          Scoun 15 January 2016 17: 49 New
          +5
          Quote: Haettenschweiler
          - And in Hollywood films everything is so beautiful: crashed, survived, you sit on an inflatable raft

          However
          Arriving in a few minutes after a collision to the crash site coast guard boats

          not 30 minutes not in an hour ... Some "MosFilms" also need to learn such efficiency, we would have spent an hour on everything about everything, with everyone and who? And where to? And where?
          And in general, you probably should just show sympathy.
          1. vorobey
            vorobey 15 January 2016 22: 19 New
            +6
            Quote: Scoun
            However
            Coast Guard boats arriving a few minutes after the collision
            not 30 minutes not in an hour ... Some "MosFilms" also need to learn such efficiency, we would have spent an hour on everything about everything, with everyone and who? And where to? And where?



            Yeah, the boats went down there after reading a message on Facebook that two helicopters are expected to fall .... do you believe it yourself?
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          3. Aleksander
            Aleksander 15 January 2016 23: 03 New
            +6
            Quote: Scoun
            Some "MosFilms" also need to learn such efficiency, we would have spent an hour on everything about everything, with everyone and who? And where to? And where?

            The article indicates the height of the waves 12 meters belay and what are the boats for them, and even fast ?! Somewhere in the article an error .....
        5. LÄRZ
          LÄRZ 15 January 2016 17: 51 New
          +9
          Quote: Haettenschweiler
          - And in Hollywood films everything is so beautiful: crashed, survived, you sit on an inflatable raft and chew chocolate from emergency rations, while an aircraft carrier hurries to you at the signal of an emergency beacon sewn into his underpants.

          The truth of life and the "truth" of Hollywood are completely different things. The directors are different. And all the rest.
        6. Andrey Yuryevich
          Andrey Yuryevich 15 January 2016 19: 41 New
          0
          Quote: Haettenschweiler
          - And in Hollywood films everything is so beautiful: crashed, survived, you sit on an inflatable raft and chew chocolate from emergency rations, while an aircraft carrier hurries to you at the signal of an emergency beacon sewn into his underpants.

          isho beer and chick. yes
        7. Jack-b
          Jack-b 16 January 2016 06: 55 New
          +1
          Quote: Haettenschweiler
          an aircraft carrier hurries at the signal of an emergency beacon sewn into his underpants.

          There has been a problem with emergency beacons lately. You cannot sew a beacon in lace panties and thongs. So the carrier does not even know where to go.
      2. lelikas
        lelikas 15 January 2016 16: 15 New
        +8
        Quote: vorobey
        Yes and do not care ...

        Yeah, why I'm not upset, she’s understandable. We are waiting for the loud statement of the Hawaiian branch daish - how they made them collide ... sad
        1. Schulz
          Schulz 15 January 2016 16: 50 New
          29
          Quote: lelikas
          Quote: vorobey
          Yes and do not care ...

          Yeah, why I'm not upset, she’s understandable.

          Yes and do not care ...

          no "rest in peace" for them, these creatures burn in hell!

          to whom condolences?

          Well, thank God,

          Yes ........ God forgive me ...

          The most amazing thing is that these people angrily condemned the same Ukrainian Natsik who were happy about the death of the SU-24 pilots in Syria.
          Are you guys completely crazy? Is this your unattainable spirituality to anyone?
          I am glad that not everyone here is like that.
          The death of people, even military personnel, in a peaceful environment, in my opinion, cannot be the basis for such statements.

          Rest in peace. There is nothing to rejoice about.

          Sorry for the guys. It doesn’t matter that the military is a likely partner ...

          To these people, respect.
          1. vorobey
            vorobey 15 January 2016 17: 20 New
            10
            Quote: Schulz
            The most amazing thing is that these people angrily condemned the same Ukrainian Natsik who were happy about the death of the SU-24 pilots in Syria. Are you guys completely crazy? Is this your unattainable spirituality to anyone?


            I am glad that you are more exceptional ... if I really do not care (where the gloating really does not know) does this put me on a par with the Ukrainian Natsiks? .. or should I run to the American embassy with a candle? can ask forgiveness?
            1. Schulz
              Schulz 15 January 2016 18: 31 New
              11
              Quote: vorobey
              or should I run to the American embassy with a candle? can ask forgiveness?

              They could just pass by and remain silent than to write such a thoughtful post.
              1. vorobey
                vorobey 15 January 2016 19: 38 New
                +3
                Quote: Schulz
                Quote: vorobey
                or should I run to the American embassy with a candle? can ask forgiveness?

                They could just pass by and remain silent than to write such a thoughtful post.


                I don’t want to ... you have two posts and two different European states jumping on the flags .. Europe is growing up now thanks to these very guys from military bases around the world ... and the gentlemen of Europeans won’t reach what and why ... me this is more of concern than the untimely death of 4 American soldiers ... I sincerely reiterate on them do not care ..
              2. Diana Ilyina
                Diana Ilyina 15 January 2016 19: 38 New
                +9
                [quote = Schulz] [quote = vorobey] Could just pass by and remain silent than to write such a thoughtful post. [/ quote]

                Well, if there weren't so many "condolences" here and we would have kept silent! I do not gloat over their death, but snotty sympathy also disgusts me personally!
            2. OMEDB
              OMEDB 15 January 2016 18: 43 New
              +2
              With this attitude to people's lives, no matter who they are, you are certainly no better than Natsik fool For example, I am far from loving to overseas, but an ordinary officer or an ordinary of their army, clearly does not deserve your opinion about your same nonsense, it is better to remain silent. And for example, towards the end of the Second World War, my grandfather told me how during the breaks at night on the front line, the fascists and our friends, tired of the war, went to drink, eat and play the accordion, and in the morning the war again!
              1. vorobey
                vorobey 15 January 2016 22: 52 New
                +6
                Quote: OMEDB
                With this attitude to people's lives, no matter who they are, you are certainly no better than Natsik


                a controversial issue ... although I understand the doctors ... their life is a value ...

                Quote: OMEDB
                , but an ordinary officer or an ordinary of their army, clearly does not deserve your opinion about your own nonsense, it is better to remain silent.


                I have at least an opinion, and they ... who are American specialists training in 404 now? and what and who are taught 50 American specialists in Syria? And since such a riffraff has gone, explain to me how compassionate and now expressing sadness to the fallen Americans and angrily speaking about ordinary soldiers of the Ukrainian Armed Forces are better than me in this case ... although both of them are just an instrument like a scalpel or clamp ...
                1. OMEDB
                  OMEDB 16 January 2016 10: 27 New
                  0
                  Quote: vorobey
                  I have at least an opinion, and they ... who are American specialists training in 404 now? and what and who are taught 50 American specialists in Syria? And since such a riffraff has gone, explain to me how compassionate and now expressing sadness to the fallen Americans and angrily speaking about ordinary soldiers of the Ukrainian Armed Forces are better than me in this case ... although both of them are just an instrument like a scalpel or clamp ...

                  I agree with you, there are stubborn ideologists and ordinary soldiers in the army who carry out orders, even if they are not correct and contradict his inner perception, but with all this, we do not know which of these two types flew in these helicopters. I am only for the fact that we do not turn into the same stubborn ideologues and do not judge everyone one size fits all. As they say "about the dead, it's either good or nothing"
          2. Bayonet
            Bayonet 16 January 2016 07: 03 New
            0
            Quote: Schulz
            Are you guys completely crazy? Is this your unattainable spirituality to anyone?

            This is their true nature. hi
        2. jaroff
          jaroff 15 January 2016 21: 26 New
          +6
          And I'm upset. Working all his life in aviation, you experience any accident. Especially a plane crash. You always try to find out the cause of the incident and its premises. Not chatter, namely the debriefing and the results of the commission's work. Unfortunately, we often quickly voice the fact of the incident, there is a shaft of comments, and the commission has not yet begun to work. And when the commission’s work is completed, its findings are almost never openly published. Especially about military and experimental aircraft.
          Returning to the current tragedy near the islands, I see no reason at all to somehow cast out, only condolences. And waiting for details.
      3. Vladimir 1964
        Vladimir 1964 15 January 2016 16: 25 New
        24
        Quote: vorobey
        Yes and do not care ...

        Sasha, and people who are just as military as, maybe, you and I are to blame for? Sorry, colleague, but in this case, your position is somewhat inadequate. The death of people, even military personnel, in a peaceful environment, in my opinion, cannot be the basis for such statements.
        Excuse me, colleague, this is the point of view of a military pensioner. hi
        1. Haettenschweiler
          Haettenschweiler 15 January 2016 16: 26 New
          +9
          Quote: Vladimir 1964
          The death of people, even military personnel, in a peaceful environment, in my opinion, cannot be the basis for such statements.


          “Like it or not ... the less they are, the better we are.”
          1. Vladimir 1964
            Vladimir 1964 15 January 2016 16: 39 New
            +2
            Quote: Haettenschweiler
            “Like it or not ... the less they are, the better we are.”

            Denis, Dear colleague, it’s not politicians who die, ordinary soldiers die. How do you like this option? hi
            1. vorobey
              vorobey 15 January 2016 16: 49 New
              17
              Quote: Vladimir 1964
              ordinary soldiers die


              Vladimir with all due respect, is it by accident that the crews that killed the Afghan family and 8 children were bombed? or not those marines who urinated on the corpses on board were?

              no, you’re right, of course, dancing on the bones doesn’t paint anyone ... the company taught me in due time - we will answer for all life taken away in vain during this life .. we’ll answer differently hi
              1. Vladimir 1964
                Vladimir 1964 15 January 2016 17: 01 New
                10
                Quote: vorobey
                Vladimir with all due respect, is it by accident that the crews that killed the Afghan family and 8 children were bombed? or not those marines who urinated on the corpses on board were?
                no, you’re right, of course, dancing on the bones doesn’t paint anyone ... the company taught me in due time - we will answer for all life taken away in vain during this life .. we’ll answer differently

                Sasha, you answered me cool enough. But let me object. It is clear that the fact that you wrote a few provokes a reaction like yours. Sasha, but on the other hand, do you really believe that the pilot himself determines the target of the attack?
                And about your "company commander", I will say one thing, he himself was the commander of a deployed reconnaissance company for 6 years, and always told his subordinates that it is better "one alive today than many corpses tomorrow." The topic is of course controversial, but never let down.
                I have the honor, colleague. soldier hi
                1. vorobey
                  vorobey 15 January 2016 17: 14 New
                  +4
                  Quote: Vladimir 1964
                  You answered me pretty cool


                  Volodya, we are talking in principle about different things.
                  1. Vladimir 1964
                    Vladimir 1964 15 January 2016 17: 28 New
                    +4
                    Quote: vorobey
                    Volodya, we are talking in principle about different things.

                    Sasha, maybe you're right, argued on the site has sworn. soldier
              2. veteran66
                veteran66 15 January 2016 21: 12 New
                -5
                Quote: vorobey
                Vladimir with all due respect, is it by accident that the crews that killed the Afghan family and 8 children were bombed?

                Oh-oh-oh ... I burst into tears, and when, when we were carrying out carpet bombing, our whole villages in Afghanistan leveled the earth like that? War, my friend - a dirty business ...
                1. Diana Ilyina
                  Diana Ilyina 15 January 2016 21: 27 New
                  +8
                  Quote: veteran66
                  Quote: vorobey
                  Vladimir with all due respect, is it by accident that the crews that killed the Afghan family and 8 children were bombed?

                  Oh-oh-oh ... I burst into tears, and when, when we were carrying out carpet bombing, our whole villages in Afghanistan leveled the earth like that? War, my friend - a dirty business ...


                  Politics is a dirty business! And if you already remembered the carpet bombing, then remember who gave such an order and who insisted on this order! If you do not know, then this is Gorbachev and Shevardnadze, two criminals and a traitor! And this order was sanctioned by American puppeteers in order to quarrel the USSR and Afghanistan for a long time!
                  1. veteran66
                    veteran66 16 January 2016 19: 15 New
                    -2
                    Quote: Diana Ilyina
                    it’s Gorbachev and Shevardnadze, two criminals and a traitor! And this order was sanctioned by American puppeteers in order to quarrel the USSR and Afghanistan for a long time!

                    what a deep knowledge. Is it yourself the humpbacks with a neck told you or were the puppeteers directly voiced?
                2. vorobey
                  vorobey 15 January 2016 21: 56 New
                  +2
                  Quote: veteran66
                  War, my friend - a dirty business ...


                  I agree ... let's open the discussion which of us is dirtier hi
                  1. Diana Ilyina
                    Diana Ilyina 15 January 2016 22: 08 New
                    +8
                    Quote: vorobey
                    I agree ... let's open the discussion which of us is dirtier hi


                    Sasha, God forbid from such a discussion, now "experts" in history will come running and explain to you how Russia basely attacked with its battleships the Japanese torpedoes near Port Arthur, as well as how the "bloody tyrant" Stalin was preparing to conquer all of Europe, but Hitler managed to do it ahead of literally a few hours!

                    Have you seen how many sympathizers there are for American killers ?! Previously, this was not on the site! By the way, you seemed to be a marshal, what happened, for what demoted ?!
                    1. vorobey
                      vorobey 15 January 2016 22: 24 New
                      +3
                      Quote: Diana Ilyina
                      Sasha, God forbid from such a discussion, now "connoisseurs" of history will come running and explain to you


                      This is a troublesome event ... For as one great Confucius said - beware of people trying to instill a sense of guilt for you because they crave power over you.

                      immunity. Alas, the Germans didn’t have it after the Second World War ...
                      1. Reserve officer
                        Reserve officer 15 January 2016 23: 41 New
                        +6
                        Strange discussion. For me, every NATO soldier is an enemy. And the fewer they are, the better.
                        Like every Finnish and German soldier was an enemy for my grandfathers - soldiers of the Great Patriotic War, who saw two wars. One went through two wars to the end, the second killed these enemies only before the Battle of Kursk. Burned out in a tank ...
                        I have it in the genes. And everyone who expresses snotty regrets about the death of NATO soldiers, let him remember - why was NATO created. Remind me? To kill us and our near and dear ones.
                      2. Diana Ilyina
                        Diana Ilyina 16 January 2016 01: 18 New
                        +9
                        Quote: Stock Officer
                        And everyone who expresses snotty regrets about the death of NATO soldiers, let him remember - why was this NATO created. Remind me? To kill us and our near and dear ones.


                        Bravo Alexey, standing ovation! My grandfather went through the Finnish and Great Patriotic War from beginning to end, was wounded, reached Berlin, participated in all significant battles of the Second World War, as he served in (if I am not mistaken) the artillery of the reserve of the Supreme High Command! My friend's grandfather burned three times in a tank, the last time he burned near Prokhorovka, after Prokhorovka he did not have a part of his skull! And against these people already at the end of the war, the Anglo-Saxons were already planning a new war, and then a bunch of "sympathizers" appeared who do not even understand that those whom they "sympathize" with are preparing to kill all their lives, those who "sympathize" with them!
                      3. veteran66
                        veteran66 16 January 2016 19: 19 New
                        -1
                        Quote: Diana Ilyina
                        and then a bunch of "sympathizers" appeared,

                        you are stupid people (stupid) I sympathize with you, have come down to the level of our smaller brothers in Ukrainian. You need to rejoice at your victories, and not at other people's blunders. Everything, damn it, you raise your ratings, chasing beautiful pictures)))) you can only play in the sandbox, and not discuss serious topics, room generals ...
        2. jaroff
          jaroff 16 January 2016 11: 28 New
          0
          I will add that people start wars, politicians who know each other, say hello and hug, and people who are not familiar with each other kill and die in wars, who did nothing wrong with each other before the war. Let us think about this more often.
    2. vorobey
      vorobey 15 January 2016 16: 34 New
      +4
      Quote: Vladimir 1964
      Sasha, and people who are just as military as, maybe, you and I are to blame for?


      Is fate fate or not? and by the way, I'm not talking about people but about gouging ...

      watched YouTube how ours fly in Syria and decided to hike? if you take risks then consider the consequences hi
      1. WUA 518
        WUA 518 15 January 2016 16: 44 New
        11
        Quote: vorobey
        if you risk then consider the consequences

        Sasha hello. Flew at night. And this is like in a barrel with fuel oil, especially when you consider that you flew over the water, got a little distracted, lost the leading lights, and good health. Here is a photo of the Mi-8 at night.
        1. Vladimirets
          Vladimirets 15 January 2016 16: 55 New
          +4
          Quote: WUA 518
          Here is a photo of the Mi-8 at night.

          No, well, here you can see that the eight. laughing
        2. vorobey
          vorobey 15 January 2016 16: 57 New
          +3
          Quote: WUA 518
          Sasha hello.


          Great ... drinks I can roughly imagine there are stars in the sea ...
          1. WUA 518
            WUA 518 15 January 2016 17: 13 New
            +7
            Quote: vorobey
            there are even stars in the sea ...

            So that's the trouble, sometimes when they lose the leader, they take the brightest star for his lights, and begin to spy.
            1. vorobey
              vorobey 15 January 2016 17: 29 New
              +4
              Quote: WUA 518
              So that's the trouble, sometimes when they lose the leader, they take the brightest star for his lights, and begin to spy.


              I have long been saying what for you devices ... one glass on the panel and enough .. (so that you can find out that you fly upside down) laughing
              1. WUA 518
                WUA 518 15 January 2016 17: 46 New
                +6
                [/ Center]
                Quote: vorobey
                one glass per panel and enough.

                Glasses should be used as intended. laughing
          2. sharp-lad
            sharp-lad 15 January 2016 22: 34 New
            0
            Yeah! And above and below and around!
      2. Vladimir 1964
        Vladimir 1964 15 January 2016 16: 49 New
        +5
        Quote: vorobey
        Is fate fate or not? and by the way, I'm not talking about people but about gouging ...

        watched YouTube how ours fly in Syria and decided to hike? if you take risks then consider the consequences

        Surprised by your comment, Colleague! I can’t even imagine how this incident can be connected with Syria. Standard flight learning problems. The "left-handedness" of flight services is the worst thing in aviation.
        Opinion, of course subjective, but sufficiently related to reality. It is clear that the former. soldier
        1. vorobey
          vorobey 15 January 2016 17: 26 New
          +3
          Quote: Vladimir 1964
          Surprised by your comment, Colleague! I can’t even imagine how to connect this incident with Syria.


          Admiration gives rise to envy and imitation, in the absence of skills - alas, sadness ... then they fly according to their own rules and regulations .. it was only an assumption - version ..


          Quote: Vladimir 1964
          Standard problems of flight training.


          what exceptional standards they have ..
      3. Vladimir 1964
        Vladimir 1964 15 January 2016 17: 46 New
        +2
        Quote: vorobey
        Is fate fate or not? and by the way, I'm not talking about people but about gouging ...

        watched YouTube how ours fly in Syria and decided to hike? if you take risks then consider the consequences

        Well, Sasha, I will remain in my opinion. hi
    3. Diana Ilyina
      Diana Ilyina 15 January 2016 16: 54 New
      10
      Quote: Vladimir 1964
      The death of people, even military personnel, in a peaceful environment, in my opinion, cannot be the basis for such statements.
      Excuse me, colleague, this is the point of view of a military pensioner. hi


      Is America in a peaceful situation ?! You at least count how many wars the most "exclusive" nation on the planet has unleashed lately! Found someone to regret! It is disgusting to God, you still have pity on the fascists, some are not very different from others! Both are "exceptional"!
      1. evge-malyshev
        evge-malyshev 15 January 2016 17: 16 New
        +4
        Quote: Diana Ilyina
        you still have pity on the fascists, some are not very different from others! Both are "exceptional"!


        Mb You are right. But disaster is a disaster. It’s just like a doctor cannot break the Hippocratic oath by saving a criminal from death, and in this situation: they died not in battle (right or wrong), but as a result of chance (catastrophe). I condole.
      2. Vladimir 1964
        Vladimir 1964 15 January 2016 17: 24 New
        +7
        Quote: Diana Ilyina
        Is America in a peaceful situation ?! You at least count how many wars the most "exclusive" nation on the planet has unleashed lately! Found someone to regret! It is disgusting to God, you still have pity on the fascists, some are not very different from others! Both are "exceptional"!

        Dear colleague, let me disagree with you. As a former soldier, I believe that the death of people outside of hostilities is not normal. For the war, of course, "will write off everything," well, then War. As platoon commanders, a soldier died during the "demining" of the shooting range, I just found an unexploded VOG-17 grenade, and "poked" it with a bayonet-knife. More than twenty years have passed since then, and I still remember how I took his coffin to Bukhara, to my parents.
        In my subjective opinion, there are no "wrong" countries, there are wrong RULERS of these countries.
        The opinion is certainly subjective, a colleague, but nonetheless. hi
        1. Diana Ilyina
          Diana Ilyina 15 January 2016 18: 58 New
          11
          Vladimir, with all due respect, let me disagree with you! By the same logic, we can condole with the dead soldiers of the Wehrmacht, who were blown up in the rear in a mine! He is not at the front, right! Or, okay, a complete analogy, two German planes take off with paratroopers flying on a combat mission, well, let's say to suppress the Yugoslav partisans! On takeoff, they mistakenly collide and crash, soldiers die! You will sympathize with them here too ?! Anticipating your objection that it’s not the Second World War, I’ll say right away that it’s not the Second World War, but already the third and the United States unleashed this war! Well, now object to me if you can!
        2. Bayonet
          Bayonet 16 January 2016 07: 13 New
          -1
          Quote: Vladimir 1964
          Dear colleague, let me disagree with you

          Right! God forbid such a wife! what
          1. veteran66
            veteran66 17 January 2016 10: 24 New
            0
            Quote: Bayonet
            God forbid such a wife!

            Yes, do not argue with her, auntie is developing a vein - bringing pluses and ratings)))
  2. aksakal
    aksakal 15 January 2016 17: 17 New
    0
    Quote: vorobey
    Yes and do not care ...

    - Exactly ... It was an Israeli (okay, amersky Majdumar, but Israeli?) Observer who recently noted how poor Russia is finding it more and more difficult to "frighten the world with its rusty military equipment." Russians have it more and more often in accidents, and so on. Surely someone from the local "tovarischi" from Israel laughing
    So evaluate, dear forum users who have a higher accident rate and the equipment is rustier laughing
  3. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 15 January 2016 19: 40 New
    -2
    Quote: vorobey
    Quote: A-Sim
    "The truth is somewhere near ..."


    Razdolbaystvo someone's.


    Yes and do not care ...

    sharks don’t think so .... drinks
    1. vorobey
      vorobey 15 January 2016 21: 59 New
      +2
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      sharks don’t think so ....


      standings Andrey ... good
  • Leviton
    Leviton 15 January 2016 16: 56 New
    -1
    It’s not even carelessness here ... and they will face one base ... well, we have to try very hard. Definitely, they will be able to justify themselves if they find a "trail of Putin", otherwise admit that they are complete .... well, you know (Lavrov)
    1. Thunderbolt
      Thunderbolt 15 January 2016 17: 06 New
      +5
      Enemies, they are to us, of course, enemies .. only if our warship or seiner passed near the crash site, they would take all measures to salvation. An unwritten law in peacetime.
    2. BARKHAN
      BARKHAN 15 January 2016 21: 14 New
      +3
      I am saddened by the loss of life. I’m satisfied with the loss of trained personnel and military equipment by the enemy. And let all their equipment suffer the same fate. Now I am sure that neither these military personnel, nor these helicopters will invade my sky.
      But what is the difference between armed men from ISIS and the United States? The former are already at war with us, the latter are only gathering.
  • Denis Obukhov
    Denis Obukhov 15 January 2016 16: 58 New
    0
    Did they find out who is more exceptional?
  • edwardwar
    edwardwar 15 January 2016 19: 14 New
    -2
    Putin’s machinations again))
  • Yars
    Yars 15 January 2016 20: 25 New
    -2
    Quote: A-Sim
    "The truth is somewhere near ..."


    Razdolbaystvo someone's.


    Putininovat ........ Putinvssesil ........
  • rotor
    rotor 16 January 2016 13: 14 New
    0
    Two aircraft nearly collided in the sky over Moscow due to translation difficulties

  • Alex_Rarog
    Alex_Rarog 15 January 2016 16: 00 New
    15
    Well damn the earth in fluff ... Rather, water ... To be honest, though I do not like mattress but he is a warrior and striped warrior. And God will make out whom to heaven whom to hell ...
    1. Diana Ilyina
      Diana Ilyina 15 January 2016 16: 08 New
      16
      Quote: Alex_Rarog
      Although I do not like mattress, he is also a warrior among striped warriors.


      Do you consider American mercenaries who kill everyone and everything around the world as warriors for money ?! Is it possible to call the warriors of those American bastards who scoffed and defecated on captured (innocent) Afghans, those who, instead of ISIS militants, bombed peaceful hospitals and schools ?! These are not warriors, they are pitiful mercenaries, so no "rest in peace" for these creatures to burn in hell!
      1. Vladimir 1964
        Vladimir 1964 15 January 2016 18: 22 New
        -7
        Quote: Diana Ilyina
        Do you consider American mercenaries who kill everyone and everything around the world as warriors for money ?! Is it possible to call the warriors of those American bastards who scoffed and defecated on captured (innocent) Afghans, those who, instead of ISIS militants, bombed peaceful hospitals and schools ?! These are not warriors, they are pitiful mercenaries, so no "rest in peace" for these creatures to burn in hell!

        An interesting comment, where did you get Diana, so much hatred for the male population? Sorry, but this is your comment, as it does not relate to the topic of the article.
        If you have serious problems with personal wear, this is not a reason for such "funny" comments.
        Something like that, colleague, you need to think about visiting a psychologist, because such an amount of hatred in a woman is alarming. hi
        1. Diana Ilyina
          Diana Ilyina 15 January 2016 19: 08 New
          +8
          Quote: Vladimir 1964
          An interesting comment, where did you get Diana, so much hatred for the male population?
          If you have serious problems with personal wear, this is not a reason for such "funny" comments.
          Something like that, colleague, you need to think about visiting a psychologist, because such an amount of hatred in a woman is alarming. hi


          First, where did you see in my words "hatred of the male population" ?! Specifically give me my statement, where would I write that I have hatred for the male sex ?!

          Secondly, what is "problems with personal wearing"I don’t know such a term!

          Thirdly, my grandmother hated the Nazis, she also has problems and she needs a psychologist ?! In my opinion, it would not hurt you to visit this specialist yourself! Above to your comment, I have already described my attitude towards such sympathizers! Sorry for the harshness!
          1. Vladimir 1964
            Vladimir 1964 15 January 2016 19: 46 New
            +1
            Quote: Diana Ilyina
            First, where did you see in my words "hatred of the male population" ?! Specifically give me my statement, where would I write that I have hatred for the male sex ?!
            Secondly, I don’t know what “problems with personal wearing” are!
            Thirdly, my grandmother hated the Nazis, she also has problems and she needs a psychologist ?! In my opinion, it would not hurt you to visit this specialist yourself! Above to your comment, I have already described my attitude towards such sympathizers! Sorry for the harshness!

            Very cool, colleague. Still, I find a problem of a sexual nature in your comments. At least based on the severity of the statement and the inadequacy of the reaction. All the same, the science of psychology has a place to be, and a separate female who has not been in an extreme situation, specifically, in the area of ​​hostilities, statements of this kind, for people who have at least some real idea of ​​this, nothing but a "blonde" cause!
            I have the honor, colleague, I treat a woman with trepidation, I love this "relationship between a man and a woman", but excuse me, you turned everything upside down because of not "satisfied ....." soldier
            1. Diana Ilyina
              Diana Ilyina 15 January 2016 19: 58 New
              +7
              Quote: Vladimir 1964
              but excuse me, you turned everything upside down because of not "satisfactory ....." soldier


              What makes you think that I have "sexual dissatisfaction" ?! Did you hold a candle in my bedroom ?! If not, where did you get such knowledge in "my psychology" ?! Or when a man has nothing to argue with a woman, the simplest thing is to accuse her of frigidity and not satisfaction, or even better to call her "dumb blonde", right ?! It's hard for men to realize the fact that a woman can be, at least, not more stupid than him ?! And you never answered me, to this comment:

              "Vladimir, with all due respect, let me disagree with you! By the same logic, one can condole with the dead soldiers of the Wehrmacht who were blown up in the rear by a mine! He's not at the front, right! Or okay, a complete analogy, two German planes with paratroopers take off flying on a combat mission, well, let's say to suppress the Yugoslav partisans! On takeoff, they collide by mistake and break, the soldiers die! Will you sympathize with them here?! Anticipating your objection that now is not World War II, I will immediately say, yes, now it is not World War II, and already the third one, was the one that unleashed this war on the USA! Well, now object to me if you can! "

              What, weakly argue, anything but insults and humiliation ?! "Colleague"...!
              1. quote
                quote 15 January 2016 21: 27 New
                0
                Quote: Diana Ilyina
                What makes you think that I have "sexual dissatisfaction" ?! Did you hold a candle in my bedroom ?! If not, where did you get such knowledge in "my psychology"?

                I apologize for interfering in the dialogue, but I was "agitated" by the connection: presence (they held the candle) and conclusion (If not, then where did you get such knowledge in "my psychology"), An interesting genre (cinema, theater, literature) is born. to come up with a name quickly, at least until after tomorrow.
                Cheered up on the background of the topic.
              2. Vladimir 1964
                Vladimir 1964 15 January 2016 22: 12 New
                +3
                Quote: Diana Ilyina

                What makes you think that I have "sexual dissatisfaction" ?! Did you hold a candle in my bedroom ?! If not, where did you get such knowledge in "my psychology" ?! Or when a man has nothing to argue with a woman, the simplest thing is to accuse her of frigidity and not satisfaction, or even better to call her "dumb blonde", right ?! It's hard for men to realize the fact that a woman can be, at least, not more stupid than him ?! And you never answered me, to this comment:

                Diana, no comment! laughing
                1. Vladimir 1964
                  Vladimir 1964 15 January 2016 22: 32 New
                  0
                  Quote: Vladimir 1964
                  Diana, no comment!

                  I want the person who set the minus for this peace-loving comment to dry up everything!
                  So be it, in the name of .....
                  PS I forgot to add: "Truly and ....", everything else is in my soul.
            2. veteran66
              veteran66 17 January 2016 10: 28 New
              0
              Quote: Vladimir 1964
              nothing but "blonde" does not cause!

              Bravo! Cool you hooked her !!!
        2. Bayonet
          Bayonet 16 January 2016 07: 16 New
          -1
          Quote: Vladimir 1964
          If you have serious problems with personal wear, this is not a reason for such "funny" comments.

          good good good
      2. Vladimir 1964
        Vladimir 1964 15 January 2016 19: 57 New
        +4
        Quote: Diana Ilyina
        Do you consider American mercenaries who kill everyone and everything around the world as warriors for money ?! Is it possible to call the warriors of those American bastards who scoffed and defecated on captured (innocent) Afghans, those who, instead of ISIS militants, bombed peaceful hospitals and schools ?! These are not warriors, they are pitiful mercenaries, so no "rest in peace" for these creatures to burn in hell!

        DIANA, I’ll put you a plus sign, be happy, this is the most important thing for a woman, well, I think so, and healthy. love
        1. Diana Ilyina
          Diana Ilyina 15 January 2016 20: 01 New
          +7
          Quote: Vladimir 1964
          DIANA, I’ll put you a plus sign, be happy, this is the most important thing for a woman, well, I think so, and healthy. love


          Same to you! love
          1. Vladimir 1964
            Vladimir 1964 15 January 2016 21: 20 New
            +2
            Quote: Diana Ilyina
            Same to you!

            Thank you right, colleague, that you are, without the girls this site will become a "men's garage"
            hi soldier love
        2. Reserve officer
          Reserve officer 16 January 2016 00: 22 New
          +1
          Vladimir, but I don’t want to give you a plus sign. Sneaky and low comments. In an officer meeting you would be explained how to respect women. Although you hardly have anything to do with the Army.
          1. Diana Ilyina
            Diana Ilyina 16 January 2016 01: 33 New
            +8
            Quote: Stock Officer
            Vladimir, but I don’t want to give you a plus sign. Sneaky and low comments. In an officer meeting you would be explained how to respect women. Although you hardly have anything to do with the Army.


            Alexey, but for this comment, a separate THANKS! I also believe that in the traditions of Russian officers, a respectful attitude to a woman, even if she is not right, is not a reason to insult! love

            And yet, it seems to me like the granddaughter of an officer of the red (Soviet) army, the sister of a special forces officer, it also seems that their service to the homeland is not put on display! Somehow I don’t see my brother flaunting his awards, but he has them, and his grandfather handed out awards to children for toys, some books remained, and some books are interesting, I keep them, there are four Polish ones, I did not quite understand, but in my opinion, these are Polish awards, for the Vistula, the Oder, some kind of sign and something else about the Grunwald’s cross, I don’t understand Polish well, but I understood these names!
    2. HAM
      HAM 15 January 2016 18: 21 New
      -2
      Sharks have already figured out where to ..
  • NIKNN
    NIKNN 15 January 2016 16: 00 New
    13
    Rest in peace. There is nothing to rejoice about.
    1. LÄRZ
      LÄRZ 15 January 2016 16: 13 New
      +6
      Yeah, it’s a sin to dance on the bones of these guys. It is necessary to fly more in similar weather conditions, what would the experience be.
      1. BARKHAN
        BARKHAN 15 January 2016 21: 22 New
        +5
        Quote: LÄRZ
        Yeah, it’s a sin to dance on the bones of these guys. It is necessary to fly more in similar weather conditions, what would the experience be.

        And you are so vulnerable, do you wonder why they will need this experience? And in order to fly over my house and kill my relatives or yours ... What a pancake for snot ... You still send them money for combat training!
        Let them walk on their own in Texas.
        1. Diana Ilyina
          Diana Ilyina 15 January 2016 22: 29 New
          +8
          Quote: Barkhan
          And you are so vulnerable, do you wonder why they will need this experience? And in order to fly over my house and kill my relatives or yours ... What a pancake for snot ... You still send them money for combat training!
          Let them walk on their own in Texas.


          Sergey, thank you, there are still adequate people! And then, these snot about sympathy, for me personally, cause a gag reflex! This is about the same as shouting "I am charlie" ...! Ugh, what an abomination you are! Why does no one sympathize with the families of those killed by these non-humans ?!
          1. BARKHAN
            BARKHAN 15 January 2016 23: 03 New
            +5
            hi In my opinion, the whole problem is in the successful work of Hollywood. Our citizens, on a subconscious level, empathizing with American citizens and the military, consider them “theirs.” But this is a disconnect from reality. And the reality is, we have been at war for 70 years. You can call it “cold ", but if as a result of it soldiers die on both sides, then the war is real.
            Anyone can google and find out that medals were awarded in the USA after the collapse of the USSR (and are being awarded now) ... "FOR VICTORY OVER THE USSR."
            Fellow citizens, look around. Two enemy aircraft crashed. Remember Iraq, Yugoslavia, Syria, Tskhinval, Donbass ... Yes, right now when I write these lines, American instructors train Bandera punishers to kill Russians!
            And, if you suddenly feel pity for them, remember how a couple of months ago they conducted a survey with ordinary US citizens, and even collected signatures about the NUCLEAR IMPACT in Russia! They are almost unanimously prepared to wipe us off the face of the earth. So, think about it.
            1. Diana Ilyina
              Diana Ilyina 15 January 2016 23: 42 New
              +8
              Quote: Barkhan
              And, if you suddenly feel pity for them, remember how a couple of months ago they conducted a survey with ordinary US citizens, and even collected signatures about the NUCLEAR IMPACT in Russia! They are almost unanimously prepared to wipe us off the face of the earth. So, think about it.


              Sergey, here I am about the same thing, but read the reviews on my comments! There is snot all around that "people" have died and we must empathize with them! Empathize with WHOM ?! I would definitely sympathize, people or soldiers, of any countries that are not members of the NATO bloc, are not under US pressure and are not terrorists! But here, at VO, it was a complete surprise to me that there was a whole bunch of people who were ready to empathize and sympathize with the enemy! The enemy is much more frightening than even the Third Reich, because the Third Reich, by and large the brainchild of the same Anglo-Saxons, who pretending to be our "friends", throughout our history were and remain our most bitter enemies! I am horrified by how many potential collaborators we have in the event of a direct war with the United States! There were quite a few of them in 1941, but now, I'm really getting scared, for our country! Who will protect her ?! I can say with confidence that my two brothers, who both passed the Caucasus, will fight, and in the forefront, I myself am ready to go under the call, even as a nurse, but better as a sniper, since my brother taught me how to shoot! But so much support for the enemies, and even on the VO, I'm shocked! request
              1. BARKHAN
                BARKHAN 16 January 2016 00: 04 New
                +2
                Diana, I think at the first shots and corpses it will pass quickly. It's just the costs of "conditional" peaceful education. And many know about the war only from toys and movies. A simple example. Removing the sentry. This is a bale in the movie with the edge of the palm of his hand and he fell without a sound .And in life you have to cut a person, almost half of the neck, arteries, esophagus, trachea ... and then also hold it until the end of the agony. And most likely you will be covered in the enemy's blood. And there will be a lot of blood.
                Why am I telling all this muck.
                You need to teach soldiers correctly and prepare for reality. War is work. Daily, hard, and dreary ...
                We just live with you away from "glamor", people on the periphery are simpler, and look at life without false scum. And military "techies" are more all the same intelligent bohemia burdened by emotional throwing. It's not bad or good just the environment and upbringing. But a person quickly gets used to both good and bad.
                Sorry, for God's sake, for all this filth. But in another I can not express my thought. hi
                1. Diana Ilyina
                  Diana Ilyina 16 January 2016 01: 05 New
                  +9
                  Sergei, yes, you said everything correctly, and I understand perfectly well that war is not romance, but blood, dirt and other "delights"! But look at the women of Donbass, who have become shoulder to shoulder with their men! Do you really think that there are no such people among us ?! Do not forget that I am a hereditary Don Cossack, in whose veins the blood flows, of free Don Cossacks! Have you heard about the Azov seat ?! Are you aware that on the walls of Azov, the Cossacks fought on a par with the men and on the last day of the siege, went out to die with them, not wanting to get the enemy as a trophy ?! I'm not talking about the Second World War, where women fought on a par with men! I repeat once again, I understand perfectly well that war is not a Hollywood film, but if necessary, then we women will stand next to our men, this is our Motherland too! Surrender to the mercy of the enemy, personally, I will not, I will be next to my brothers, and there as God willing!
                  1. Reserve officer
                    Reserve officer 16 January 2016 01: 14 New
                    +1
                    I kiss your hand, Diana.
                    1. Diana Ilyina
                      Diana Ilyina 16 January 2016 01: 40 New
                      +8
                      Quote: Stock Officer
                      I kiss your hand, Diana.


                      Thank you, very nice! Respectfully for real men and officers! love
                  2. BARKHAN
                    BARKHAN 16 January 2016 01: 16 New
                    +1
                    God give you all the best, happiness and health!
                    Well, and with the enemies ... let's break through. They overslept their chance to crush us. Now other times.
                    Brothers "respect" wink
                    1. Diana Ilyina
                      Diana Ilyina 16 January 2016 01: 45 New
                      +6
                      Quote: Barkhan
                      God give you all the best, happiness and health!
                      Well, and with the enemies ... let's break through. They overslept their chance to crush us. Now other times.
                      Brothers "respect" wink


                      And to you happiness, health and a peaceful sky above your head (this is not a slogan, but a real wish), God will break through, and my brothers, that’s necessary, I’m very proud of them! And by the way, they know how to fight better than the Americans, and they taught me something, I can shoot with SVD, though I still can’t figure it out with wind corrections, but this is temporary, I’ll definitely learn!
                2. Mikhail Krapivin
                  Mikhail Krapivin 16 January 2016 10: 59 New
                  +2
                  Quote: Barkhan
                  And in life you need to CUT a person, almost the half of the neck, arteries, esophagus, trachea ... and then also hold on to the end of the agony. And most likely you will be all in the blood of the enemy. And there will be a lot of blood.


                  How do you SHOULDER tell this :)
                  1. BARKHAN
                    BARKHAN 16 January 2016 12: 05 New
                    +3
                    Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
                    How do you SHOULDER tell this :)

                    I apologized. But it's true. The same picture with injuries. In the movie, the protagonist with a shot shoulder runs and fights the floor of the film, but in life it’s worth stepping on at least a nail and ... laughing
                    Personally, my tendon and nerve were broken on my right hand, so my ring finger doesn’t straighten, and I almost don’t feel it ... And this is forever! My friend’s leg was shorter by 3 cm after being wounded in the lower leg, it’s good that they didn’t amputate . And the weather he now predicts to me very accurately ...
              2. atalef
                atalef 16 January 2016 08: 39 New
                -2
                Quote: Diana Ilyina
                Quote: Barkhan
                And, if you suddenly feel pity for them, remember how a couple of months ago they conducted a survey with ordinary US citizens, and even collected signatures about the NUCLEAR IMPACT in Russia! They are almost unanimously prepared to wipe us off the face of the earth. So, think about it.


                Sergey, here I am about the same thing, but read the reviews on my comments! There is snot all around that "people" have died and we must empathize with them! Empathize with WHOM ?! I would definitely sympathize, people or soldiers, of any countries that are not members of the NATO bloc, are not under US pressure and are not terrorists! But here, at VO, it was a complete surprise to me that there was a whole bunch of people who were ready to empathize and sympathize with the enemy! The enemy is much more frightening than even the Third Reich, because the Third Reich, by and large the brainchild of the same Anglo-Saxons, who pretending to be our "friends", throughout our history were and remain our most bitter enemies! I am horrified by how many potential collaborators we have in the event of a direct war with the United States! There were quite a few of them in 1941, but now, I'm really getting scared, for our country! Who will protect her ?! I can say with confidence that my two brothers, who both passed the Caucasus, will fight, and in the forefront, I myself am ready to go under the call, even as a nurse, but better as a sniper, since my brother taught me how to shoot! But so much support for the enemies, and even on the VO, I'm shocked! request

                Wicked Are you some kind of Diana, where are such extremes?
  • Primus pilus
    Primus pilus 15 January 2016 16: 01 New
    +8
    Someone is not safe from this.
  • WUA 518
    WUA 518 15 January 2016 16: 03 New
    +7
    Something strange. According to another version, airplanes. And in Vnukovo incident. Honolulu, January 15th. Two military aircraft collided in the air off the coast of the Hawaiian Islands.

    The incident occurred on the northern shore of Oahu on the Hawaiian archipelago, near the city of Haleiva. According to Hawaii News Now with reference to the coast guard of Honolulu, in one of the aircraft, which belongs to the marine station, there were six people.

    Helicopter operations of the Navy, the Honolulu Fire Department, and a rescue boat take part in the operation at the scene of the collision.
    Recall that today, two aircraft nearly collided over the Moscow Vnukovo airport. Collisions escaped a business-class aircraft that flew from Gomel, and a military Tu-134. One of the reasons for the dangerous rapprochement was difficulties with the transfer in negotiations with the dispatcher. The aircraft were at the same height at a critically close distance of three kilometers. According to the preliminary version, the dispatcher is guilty of this incident. The disaster was avoided thanks to the operational work of the trainee.
    1. nazar_0753
      nazar_0753 15 January 2016 16: 13 New
      +4
      Well, probably the confusion with the definition of "helicopter or airplane" is due to the fact that two tiltrotors may have collided, and this is something in between
      Quote: WUA 518
      Something strange. According to another version of the aircraft. Honolulu, January 15th. Two military aircraft collided in the air off the coast of the Hawaiian Islands.

      The incident occurred on the northern shore of Oahu on the Hawaiian archipelago, near the city of Haleiva. According to Hawaii News Now with reference to the coast guard of Honolulu, in one of the aircraft, which belongs to the marine station, there were six people.

      Helicopter operations of the Navy, the Honolulu Fire Department, and a rescue boat take part in the operation at the scene of the collision.
      1. WUA 518
        WUA 518 15 January 2016 16: 27 New
        +3
        Quote: nazar_0753
        that maybe two tiltrotors collided, and this is something in between

        Most likely you are right, there were already incidents with Osprey at the Wheeler airbase, and the reports indicated that this happened with the aircraft.
    2. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 15 January 2016 16: 15 New
      +5
      Quote: WUA 518
      thanks to the operational work of the intern.

      In the normal office of the trainee, an increase would await. smile
    3. lelikas
      lelikas 15 January 2016 16: 17 New
      +3
      In Gomel - in what language is it now said that the dispatcher was not understood? Well that carried.
      1. WUA 518
        WUA 518 15 January 2016 16: 31 New
        +2
        Quote: lelikas
        In Gomel - what language they say today that the dispatcher did not understand

        On a business jet, the crew was most likely foreign.
  • SAM 5
    SAM 5 15 January 2016 16: 05 New
    +2
    Closely everywhere became from American bases. So they didn’t disperse, somehow.
  • Hypocrite
    Hypocrite 15 January 2016 16: 06 New
    +2
    Sorry for the guys. It doesn’t matter that the military is a likely partner ...
    1. Diana Ilyina
      Diana Ilyina 15 January 2016 16: 15 New
      14
      Quote: Hange
      Sorry for the guys. It doesn’t matter that the military is a likely partner ...


      Tell me, do you really feel sorry for them ?! Well, not for show, but in truth, do you feel sorry for them ?! Did you know them or did they do something good to you ?! What all went wrong, wretchedly, the earth rest in peace, etc.?! These guys can be sent to the next world more than a thousand innocent people, and here you pity them! Well, regret it further, if you want, I’m personally not at all sorry for them, the more these reptiles die, the more pure and fair the world will be!
      1. 15ghost10
        15ghost10 15 January 2016 16: 30 New
        15
        here people have a short memory. Look for a video of how in Iraq a couple of years ago they shot civilians from an Apache with a camera record. More than 40 people died - women and children. And here are the condolences cons. These ..... since 1945, they carried out more than 60 coups d'etat around the world, the last in Ukraine - and they condole. These are not mobilized by force, but contract soldiers, people who knowingly kill other people.
      2. sisa29
        sisa29 15 January 2016 16: 35 New
        11
        Tell me, do you really feel sorry for them?
        Everything is correct. I feel sorry for the people, but I don't feel sorry for the enemy soldiers. And having put on the NATO uniform, they ceased to be human. They are enemies for us, ready to bomb our cities, kill our children without hesitation! I absolutely agree with you there is no need to arrange snotty commemoration for the enemies here. Just read it, because people who are now grieving humanly in other comments suggest "America must be destroyed." And this is how you can destroy a country without damaging people? Hypocrisy.
        1. Diana Ilyina
          Diana Ilyina 15 January 2016 16: 50 New
          +8
          Quote: sisa29
          Hypocrisy.


          Look at my comments above and rate the number of cons! I do not mind letting them be minuscule, but those who condole with the deaths of American underspring can equally condole with the families of the Nazis killed near Moscow, Stalingrad, on the Kursk Bulge, and indeed in World War II! Well, what, they are also people, also soldiers, aren't they ?!
          1. sisa29
            sisa29 15 January 2016 16: 59 New
            0
            In and I about the same? Imagine a drowning situation with an American aircraft carrier, let’s say, say, on the rocks ... thousands of soldiers died. What do you think will howl for the dead will be in your soul or joy?
            1. Diana Ilyina
              Diana Ilyina 15 January 2016 17: 16 New
              10
              Quote: sisa29
              In and I about the same? Imagine a drowning situation with an American aircraft carrier, let’s say, say, on the rocks ... thousands of soldiers died. What do you think will howl for the dead will be in your soul or joy?


              I don’t know how anyone, judging by the reaction to my comments, apparently many will mourn, but I personally will be happy! And I don’t care who and what thinks about it! Pitying your enemies, you do not pity your children!
              1. Oprychnik
                Oprychnik 15 January 2016 18: 03 New
                -4
                "Tell me, do you really feel sorry for them ?!"

                Strange position. Do you want to know that you are not the only such heartless here? Yes. You are not the only one. But it’s all the more strange to hear such spells from a woman ... Bloodthirst is not for you.
                1. Diana Ilyina
                  Diana Ilyina 15 January 2016 18: 24 New
                  11
                  Quote: Oprychnik
                  But it’s all the more strange to hear such spells from a woman ... Bloodthirst is not for you.


                  I already wrote above: Pitying your enemies, you do not pity your children! And what is my "bloodthirstiness" in hatred of my enemies ?!
                  1. Oprychnik
                    Oprychnik 15 January 2016 19: 16 New
                    -3
                    So far, we are not sorry for the enemies, but for the people. Like you and I. And Russia has always had such ill-wishers above the roof. Do you suggest everyone burn with napalm? Bad said, looked askance? Into the gas chamber !!!
                    No need for diplomacy. Diana said, "To the morgue. So, to the morgue."
                    It is good that you are not the very Motherland that calls. It is not the time now, about which Konstantin Simonov shrilly spoke in the poem "Kill him!"
                    "So kill at least one!
                    So kill him quickly!
                    How many times will you see him,
                    So many times and kill him! "

                    Now such appeals look like subconscious aspirations of a latent, failed killer maniac, who needs to be preventively treated in a closed psychiatric hospital.
                    1. Diana Ilyina
                      Diana Ilyina 15 January 2016 19: 31 New
                      +9
                      Quote: Oprychnik
                      So far, we are not sorry for the enemies, but for the people. Just like you and me.


                      I'm tired of writing! Where did you see people ?! Do you think Mercenaries are people ?! These are not conscription soldiers, these are mercenaries killing everyone and everything around the world! Will you list their victims ?! Do you feel sorry for the people in the Donbass who are being killed by exactly the same mercenaries from the USA and other countries ?! It was their instructors who trained Georgians to kill Ossetians and Abkhazians, they trained Nazi battalions in Ukraine, they bombed Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya, they killed Milosevic, Hussein, Gaddafi and hundreds of thousands more! Do you sympathize with them ?! Well, the flag in your hands, sympathize! I will see how you will sympathize when they come to democratize you!
                      1. Oprychnik
                        Oprychnik 15 January 2016 19: 59 New
                        -1
                        Diana. I am surprised at your ardor. You are probably very young ...)))
                        You must understand that to rejoice is like rejoicing in the fact that in India a bus fell from a mountain and killed 40 people, or in Germany 30 women were raped by migrants. "Ah, they are fascists, so they need it!" - you say ??? Do not make me laugh. You are not like that. They just didn't think ...
                  2. Bayonet
                    Bayonet 16 January 2016 07: 29 New
                    -2
                    Quote: Diana Ilyina
                    While pitying your enemies, you do not pity your children! And what is my "bloodthirstiness" in hatred of my enemies ?!

                    You generally can’t have children - grow animals out of them! negative
              2. ydjin
                ydjin 15 January 2016 18: 31 New
                +1
                Diana Ilyina, I do not put you cons. But I don’t see the point in rejoicing at this tragedy, our warriors should never dance on bones. According to Russian Orthodox custom, we will remember both friends and vorogs, and may the Lord judge!
                1. Diana Ilyina
                  Diana Ilyina 15 January 2016 19: 16 New
                  10
                  Quote: ydjin
                  Diana Ilyina, I do not put you cons. But I don’t see the point in rejoicing at this tragedy, our warriors should never dance on bones. According to Russian Orthodox custom, we will remember both friends and vorogs, and may the Lord judge!


                  Well then, remember at the same time the soldiers of the "great" army of Napoleon, the Teutonic knights, the soldiers of Charles XII, the Poles killed by Ivan Susanin, the soldiers of the Wehrmacht, I can list until morning who should be "remembered", and most importantly, do not forget to remember the Vlasovites, they are too " warriors ", and even" Russians "!
                  1. Diana Ilyina
                    Diana Ilyina 15 January 2016 19: 46 New
                    13
                    By the way, you can minus as much as you like! I'm already tired of writing that I don't care what my "titles and shoulder straps" are! I have one rank - I AM RUSSIAN! And no one can ever rob me of this title!
                    1. Bayonet
                      Bayonet 16 January 2016 07: 33 New
                      -3
                      Quote: Diana Ilyina
                      I have one title - I am RUSSIAN!

                      Russians are kind and generous! And in you, apart from hatred and anger, there is nothing! No, not Russian ....
                      1. Bayonet
                        Bayonet 17 January 2016 08: 38 New
                        -1
                        Quote: Bayonet
                        Russians are kind and generous!

                        Hmm ... Someone thinks otherwise ...
                  2. Beasofffan
                    Beasofffan 15 January 2016 19: 55 New
                    0
                    Diana Ilyina. Try to look at the event from a different angle - any other crew, any other army in the world could have been in the place of these guys. In Russia, planes are falling, and in other countries, too. Without any war and politics, that is what determines the catastrophe. Before her, everyone is equal. Some of them have a reason for gloating, some for condolences, some for solidarity. If not "ideological", then at least professional. It is full of service guys who understand well that no one is immune from this.
                    1. Diana Ilyina
                      Diana Ilyina 15 January 2016 20: 07 New
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                      Quote: BeasOfMan
                      Diana Ilyina. Try to look at the event from a different angle - any other crew, any other army in the world could have been in the place of these guys. In Russia, planes are falling, and in other countries, too. Without any war and politics, that is what determines the catastrophe. Before her, everyone is equal. Some of them have a reason for gloating, some for condolences, some for solidarity. If not "ideological", then at least professional. It is full of service guys who understand well that no one is immune from this.


                      I could express my sympathy if the soldiers were broken (God forbid, of course) say, some Bolivia, Nicaragua or India! But to express sympathy to the mercenaries of the country, which every day insists that Russia is an evil axis, that Russia is an enemy, that it must be destroyed, I'm sorry, but this is at least hypocrisy and an abomination! In another way, I do not evaluate it!
                      1. Oprychnik
                        Oprychnik 15 January 2016 20: 40 New
                        -5
                        "Well, let my dad and mom swear at me! Anyway, I will not teach lessons!")))
                      2. Diana Ilyina
                        Diana Ilyina 15 January 2016 21: 12 New
                        +8
                        Quote: Oprychnik
                        "Well, let my dad and mom swear at me! Anyway, I will not teach lessons!")))


                        Smarter thoughts do not come to mind ?! You yourself would not be bad to learn the lessons of history, "sympathizing" you are ours!
                      3. Oprychnik
                        Oprychnik 15 January 2016 21: 27 New
                        -1
                        How is it with Ellochka? AND! "Don't teach me how to live!" True, it seems.)))
                      4. Oprychnik
                        Oprychnik 15 January 2016 21: 30 New
                        0
                        By the way. That Ellochka the Cannibal was called.)))
                2. Beasofffan
                  Beasofffan 15 January 2016 21: 24 New
                  +1
                  In another way, I do not evaluate it!

                  You evaluate it from your bell tower, someone else - from your own. For some, these guys are murderers, for others, let them be on the other side of the barricades, but colleagues. I don’t understand why here to kindle useless disputes, switch to emotions, chop from the shoulder, poke a finger at each other. Moreover, everyone with his own opinion will remain. Hotness, as they said above, is good, but here and now it is spent simply, the public will not appreciate it. Sincerely.
                3. Diana Ilyina
                  Diana Ilyina 15 January 2016 21: 42 New
                  +8
                  [quote = BeasOfMan] [quote] You evaluate it from your bell tower, someone else from your own. For some, these guys are murderers, for others, let them be on the other side of the barricades, but colleagues. [/ Quote]

                  Well, yes, for some, the Nazis were executioners and murderers, but for others "colleagues on the other side of the barricades"! Congratulations, iron logic! Vlasovtsev what category do you classify ?! Maybe we will sympathize with them ?!
                4. Oprychnik
                  Oprychnik 15 January 2016 22: 00 New
                  -1
                  Gee gee! Diana! Everyone has already understood that the last word will remain with you. It seems that, except here, you have nowhere else to say it. In all other cases, you have already managed to say it, and everyone who needs it has understood and given you the way. mademoiselle!)))
                5. Beasofffan
                  Beasofffan 16 January 2016 11: 46 New
                  -4
                  Not a camel. With all due respect, I see no reason to continue the dialogue with those who categorically hang up labels and engage in over-generalization. If for you all the military personnel of Western countries are polls Nazis, mercenaries, executioners and murderers, let this continue. Life becomes simpler when everything is divided only into black and white, right?
                6. veteran66
                  veteran66 17 January 2016 09: 53 New
                  -1
                  Quote: Diana Ilyina
                  for some, the Nazis were executioners and murderers, while for others "colleagues

                  These Nazis were friends until the 36th year, then, until the 39th - enemies, then, again from the 39th to the 41st friends again ... and how? I believe that while the country is not at war with us, it is not hostile, moreover, it is not people who determine the state’s policy. Right now, some French are fighting for Khokhlov, some for us on the side of the DPR. So who are the French to us? Thank God that women are not allowed in big politics!
  • Bayonet
    Bayonet 16 January 2016 07: 25 New
    -1
    Quote: Diana Ilyina
    Tell me, do you really feel sorry for them ?!

    These are primarily people.
    Quote: Diana Ilyina
    the more these reptiles die, the cleaner and fairer the world will be!

    You have flashing eyes! If everyone had been like that, long ago they would have gnawed at each other's throats!
  • Rokossovsky
    Rokossovsky 15 January 2016 16: 06 New
    +3
    At night, with such waves! It is unlikely that they will find someone alive. Even if the wounded remained after the collision and fall, they could not survive outside the life raft. Condolences ... crying
    1. Petrof
      Petrof 15 January 2016 16: 14 New
      +5
      to whom condolences?
      relatives of the military, those who around the world carry democracy and prosperity? Iraq, Libya and other countries can confirm this, yes
      and if you give a little slack - they will come here and will kill us already. Or do you doubt it?
      1. Diana Ilyina
        Diana Ilyina 15 January 2016 16: 20 New
        11
        Quote: Petrof
        to whom condolences?
        relatives of the military, those who around the world carry democracy and prosperity? Iraq, Libya and other countries can confirm this, yes
        and if you give a little slack - they will come here and will kill us already. Or do you doubt it?


        Well, thank God, there are still people who remember how much evil these non-humans have done, otherwise all with condolences, it’s disgusting already!
        1. Rokossovsky
          Rokossovsky 15 January 2016 17: 57 New
          -1
          Diana, don’t need to be bloodthirsty! Death is a great sorrow! Do not be like Khokhlov, with their dances on the bones!
          1. Diana Ilyina
            Diana Ilyina 15 January 2016 18: 29 New
            +9
            Quote: Rokossovsky
            Diana, don’t need to be bloodthirsty! Death is a great sorrow! Do not be like Khokhlov, with their dances on the bones!


            I do not dance on the bones, but to express condolences to the killers, I consider blasphemy! Why no one condoles with the families of the victims at the hands of these same executioners ?!
            1. Rokossovsky
              Rokossovsky 15 January 2016 19: 07 New
              0
              The executioners are those who sit in the White House, the Capitol and the Pentagon, those who pursue such inhumane politics around the world! You know, I was also jarred, for example, from shots of a peacekeeper from helicopters in Iraq, from geeks urinating on the corpses! I in Belgrade, walking past the bombed building of the Ministry of Defense of Yugoslavia, clench my fists every time! But you need to separate the flies from cutlets! What is the fault of a simple soldier?
              In general, let everyone stay with their ...
              Best regards hi
              1. Petrof
                Petrof 15 January 2016 19: 14 New
                0
                Quote: Rokossovsky
                What is the fault of a simple soldier?



                In Nuremberg they said: “I carried out the order” (c)
              2. Diana Ilyina
                Diana Ilyina 15 January 2016 19: 22 New
                10
                Quote: Rokossovsky
                What is the fault of a simple soldier?


                Excuse me, but who was sitting in the helicopter that shot peaceful Afghans ?! Maybe Obama or McCain ?! You do not confuse the SOLDIER and the American assassins! Condolences further, snotty bring!

                I was thinking hardly Konstantin Konstantinovich Rokossovsky, whose name and photo you assigned, condolences to the fallen German soldiers! Good luck
                1. Mikhail Krapivin
                  Mikhail Krapivin 16 January 2016 09: 56 New
                  0
                  [quote = Diana Ilyina] [/ quote]

                  Excuse me, but who was sitting in the helicopter that shot peaceful Afghans ?! Maybe Obama or McCain ?! You do not confuse the SOLDIER and the American assassins! Express condolences on, snotty bring?! [/ Quote]

                  Diana, five points! It is very pleasant that I am not alone in my assessment of the "merits" of American Sonderkommando teams around the world. But unfortunately, judging by your dialogues with some of our colleagues, there are also enough Isusiks who are ready to forget everything and forgive. I am sure that somewhere in the corner they already have rolled up American flags, and in their dreams they happily wave them to the American "liberators".
                2. veteran66
                  veteran66 17 January 2016 09: 56 New
                  -1
                  Quote: Diana Ilyina
                  Excuse me, but who was sitting in the helicopter that shot peaceful Afghans ?!

                  Are you talking about the Soviet helicopter in 88th or about the amers in 2009? Explain, otherwise the picture is the same.
              3. Wheel
                Wheel 16 January 2016 03: 28 New
                +2
                Quote: Rokossovsky
                You know, I was also jarred, for example, from shots of a peacekeeper from helicopters in Iraq, from geeks urinating on the corpses! I in Belgrade, walking past the bombed building of the Ministry of Defense of Yugoslavia, clench my fists every time! But you need to separate the flies from cutlets! What is the fault of a simple soldier?

                Are you sure that among these dead "ordinary soldiers" there were no those who had fun in Iraq or Afghanistan?
                Are you sure that these "ordinary soldiers" will not do the same on Russian territory if it comes to that?

                Cutlets, you know, rotten.
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  • Great-grandfather of Zeus
    Great-grandfather of Zeus 15 January 2016 16: 08 New
    -1
    As a human being, I sympathize with the families of the victims. Only in this incident, "Moscow's hand" should not be sought.
    1. Diana Ilyina
      Diana Ilyina 15 January 2016 21: 05 New
      +8
      Quote: Great-grandfather of Zeus
      As a human being, I sympathize with the families of the victims. Only in this incident, "Moscow's hand" should not be sought.


      It would be better if we condolen to the families of those whom these nonhumans killed! You are all hypocrites, sympathizers and condolences to the killers! Express your condolences further, you look Americans and appreciate!
  • newcomer
    newcomer 15 January 2016 16: 13 New
    +5
    a tragic incident. sorry for the people. because unlike the Yankees, we know how to spare people. not for the sake of gloating, but to read the objective lens; now I’ll pour it on them, they won’t say that the Russian weapons are junk and the soldiers are ragged. here they have a mirror to their nose. I’ll say sorry again for people, because they probably have families.
    1. Mikhail Krapivin
      Mikhail Krapivin 15 January 2016 16: 28 New
      10
      Quote: newbie
      I hope now they will not say that Russian weapons are junk and soldiers are ragged. here they have a mirror to their nose. I’ll say sorry again for people, because they probably have families.


      Are you kidding me? Now they will say with vengeance that the Russian weapons are junk, and the soldiers are ragged. These are the Americans. For them, if an American helicopter crashes, this is a tragic and absurd accident, and if a Russian helicopter crashes, this is a completely natural result of Russian stupidity, sloppiness and backwardness. And in general, in their opinion, we are subhuman, unworthy of owning so many territories and resources. Aren't you aware of Obama's speech?
  • gergi
    gergi 15 January 2016 16: 17 New
    11
    Oh, woe is what! Obama my condolences. Ready to condole every day, there would be a reason.
  • Antoshka
    Antoshka 15 January 2016 16: 18 New
    +1
    Quote: A-Sim
    "The truth is somewhere near ..."


    Razdolbaystvo someone's.

    So their pilots. Helicopters are not supersonic planes for you. All within sight and speed. where their eyes looked, the big question now.
  • Dimontius
    Dimontius 15 January 2016 16: 22 New
    +9
    how pitiful they are, I'm shocked. Aren't you sorry for peaceful people who are being killed by "valiant wars" with drones, like in a computer game? Or do you distinguish: the soldier is an extremist soldier, a moderate ??? In our military-political realities - this is MINUS 2 VERTUKHI. Otherwise, they are crushing us on all fronts, and you felt sorry for their servicemen. fool
  • Mikhail Krapivin
    Mikhail Krapivin 15 January 2016 16: 22 New
    -3
    Yes ........ God forgive me ...
  • Vega
    Vega 15 January 2016 16: 22 New
    -1
    This is because of the "excellent" combat training of the majority of the US Air Force flight personnel, the guys rest in peace.
  • Support
    Support 15 January 2016 16: 32 New
    10
    Maxim died and to hell with him ..... less we get in the way ...... I won’t even think of a candle to put such a cattle here. I remember their creatures by the comments on our downed Su-24. Tired of being kind. Enough.
  • newcomer
    newcomer 15 January 2016 16: 33 New
    +4
    Well, well, you guys are monsters. What is the difference between Russian people (Russian spirit) from any rabble? yes by the fact that we have a feeling of pity for our neighbor. tell me how did you specifically take a deceased out of 24 personally to you or to your relatives? just the fact that he served his homeland as best he could, and inadvertently died? Friends, let’s go without this childishness and pathos. To paraphrase a fable: it’s only your fault that you are a Yankee. my friends, and doesn’t it seem to you that by such thinking we turn into them ??! it is impossible because in this way the balance of forces, right and evil will go away, then the end. even in WWII, we treated the Germans humanly. although we know what these goths did to us. friends did not boast of bragging or fun. not for their sake or others. for your own sake, do not forget that we are Russian. otherwise disappear. it was by force and at the same time by mercy that we always defeated the enemies. in any case, I think so!
    1. Petrof
      Petrof 15 January 2016 16: 42 New
      +5
      Quote: newbie
      Friends, let’s go without this childishness and pathos.


      what exactly do you see pathos? Do not share condolences to American warriors - is this pathos and childishness?
      that is, when they completely openly on all channels (radio, TV, the Internet, the media) scoff at us and laugh at our slightest failure - should we express condolences to them and be upset about their death ???
      and who does not do it - that sinister and monster? what kind of perverted consciousness do you have?
      1. ydjin
        ydjin 15 January 2016 18: 48 New
        0
        Quote: Petrof
        Quote: newbie
        Friends, let’s go without this childishness and pathos.


        what exactly do you see pathos? Do not share condolences to American warriors - is this pathos and childishness?
        that is, when they completely openly on all channels (radio, TV, the Internet, the media) scoff at us and laugh at our slightest failure - should we express condolences to them and be upset about their death ???
        and who does not do it - that sinister and monster? what kind of perverted consciousness do you have?

        Are they scoffing and jumping? So dear, we will not be likened to them and thereby fall to their level! That's exactly the childishness of the kindergarten level! In the battle for the homeland and loved ones, yes, kill, bite your teeth! But gloating? This is just baseness!
        1. Petrof
          Petrof 15 January 2016 19: 05 New
          +1
          Quote: ydjin
          This is just baseness!


          it is adequacy and reciprocity
    2. sisa29
      sisa29 15 January 2016 16: 43 New
      +7
      yes by the fact that we have a feeling of pity for our neighbor

      And what side did the NATO soldiers become close to us? Maybe of course you have something in common with them, but for me they are future enemies ready to bomb my city and kill my children
      1. Dimontius
        Dimontius 15 January 2016 17: 12 New
        +1
        it's like in Harry Potter - "And call him by name, he'll try to kill you anyway"
      2. BARKHAN
        BARKHAN 15 January 2016 21: 46 New
        +4
        Quote: sisa29
        yes by the fact that we have a feeling of pity for our neighbor

        And what side did the NATO soldiers become close to us? Maybe of course you have something in common with them, but for me they are future enemies ready to bomb my city and kill my children

        A person always wants to look good, kind and fair ... And it is so desirable to fight with someone else's hands. These "military personnel" are training to kill us!
        But in the end, read what these warriors write about us on social networks. They don’t think of us as people, don’t be fooled. We for them are something between Somalis and Arabs. We are enemies for them. They are enemies for us.
  • evge-malyshev
    evge-malyshev 15 January 2016 16: 37 New
    -1
    A catastrophe is always a disaster. I'm so sorry.
  • Cananecat
    Cananecat 15 January 2016 16: 37 New
    +2
    Carelessness and lack of coordination of actions are the same everywhere. Once again, it speaks of the lack of development of take-off-landing actions and others ...
    I feel sorry for my own, but these ... their fate is like that.
  • AdekvatNICK
    AdekvatNICK 15 January 2016 16: 41 New
    0
    in films they have everything differently.
  • izya top
    izya top 15 January 2016 16: 43 New
    +3
    two American military helicopters collided
    yes and xpen with them ...
  • AIR-ZNAK
    AIR-ZNAK 15 January 2016 16: 46 New
    +2
    Pilots - there were and is an elite in any army in the world, and this is not given to everyone. Perhaps there was a strong gust of wind. Judging by the reports, the flights took place in difficult weather conditions in the immediate vicinity of the base. Perhaps it was a training flight. It’s in the infantry of mercenaries - drug addicts are not serious enough for aviation to take root Sorry for the pilots
  • Support
    Support 15 January 2016 16: 49 New
    +2
    These founders and followers of Protestantism already got the whole Ball. And they will never be close to us. And we too. We have a war here. No, not like that - we have WAR. And I'm not going to feel sorry for them - in war as in war.
  • newcomer
    newcomer 15 January 2016 16: 54 New
    +4
    no petroph. Paphas is not to have pity for the dead. dance on the bones, which is what most do. but about enemies and opponents. I assure you, immediately after the order of the Yankees, the soldiers will not run away to execute. no matter how normal people are there, too.
    1. Petrof
      Petrof 15 January 2016 17: 05 New
      +3
      Quote: newbie
      Paphas is not to have pity for the dead.


      I look forward to the condolences by the local idiots on May 9 to the defeated Nazi Germany and personally to Adolf Hitler, who was brought to suicide

      Quote: newbie
      I assure you, immediately after the order of the Yankees, the soldiers will not run away to execute. how would you not like


      I honestly have nerves to communicate with similar people
      may be enough to ascribe to me all the nonsense that I have never said anywhere?
      Well, cite me where I say that they will immediately run away at the slightest threat ??


      and yes - you did not answer the question

      Quote: Petrof
      that is, when they completely openly on all channels (radio, TV, the Internet, the media) scoff at us and laugh at our slightest failure - should we express condolences to them and be upset about their death ???
      and who does not do it - that sinister and monster? what kind of perverted consciousness do you have?

      1. Oprychnik
        Oprychnik 15 January 2016 21: 00 New
        -2
        "I honestly don't have enough nerves to communicate with such people"

        And you, honey, jump. You have an example. You look, nerves and calm down ....)))
        And everything will work out.
  • Abbra
    Abbra 15 January 2016 17: 10 New
    -3
    Sorry for the guys. I can express nothing but condolences. Alas, this happens in the army.
  • Signaller
    Signaller 15 January 2016 17: 12 New
    +3
    Of course I understand, like a tragedy. Pilots definitely feel sorry. But why is it generally printed here ??????? Well, some kind of Pupkin ran into the Moscow Ring Road with some sort of Khrukin-tragedy. And on the first pages of VO - ???? This is darkness. Type news was on the Internet. Bad in the USA (the audience applauds, applauds, .... finished applauding). But we also have such cases. And what to let in the news line ???? It's not serious ..... A personal opinion, I do not insist.
  • GOGY
    GOGY 15 January 2016 17: 14 New
    +1
    Quote: vorobey
    Quote: A-Sim
    "The truth is somewhere near ..."


    Razdolbaystvo someone's.


    Yes and do not care ...

    And do not care, but very good good
  • Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 15 January 2016 17: 23 New
    +6
    "Sorry for the guys."
    Honestly, I tried to feel sorry for them, but it doesn’t work out. In our army in a year, how many young animals are being crushed? Here they are sorry for those who did not start living, but these dogs of war do not work.
    Flyers, maybe they are your colleagues, professionals, etc., but for me they are enemies always and everywhere. And the fewer of them, the better our combatant flyers.
  • Petrof
    Petrof 15 January 2016 17: 25 New
    +2
    it becomes contagious
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet 16 January 2016 07: 49 New
      -1
      Quote: Petrof
      it becomes contagious

      That's it! request
  • engineer74
    engineer74 15 January 2016 17: 50 New
    +2
    In Afghanistan, "Chinook" with "Navy Seals", which they took Ben Laden, was thrown, IChSKh, too, no one survived ... Maybe they knew something too much? what
  • newcomer
    newcomer 15 January 2016 18: 08 New
    +4
    listen petrof not enough nerves go to heal. You think I’m pleased to clearly hear your psychopathic anger. I do not see the difference between you and some sort of obamapsaka. and when the roasted rooster pecks such angry truth-cutters - philosopher psychos will hide far away. life is a fact. and normal adequate people will get rid of the protection.
    1. Petrof
      Petrof 15 January 2016 18: 15 New
      +3
      Quote: newbie
      You think I’m pleased to clearly hear your psychopathic anger.



      so you do not answer anything but slurred nonsense
      never answered a single question

      Quote: newbie
      and when the roasted rooster pecks such angry truth-cutters - philosopher psychos will hide far away. life is a fact. and normal adequate people will get rid of the protection.


      probably that's why I went to the army


      Quote: newbie
      angry truth-bearers_ philosopher psychopaths


      do you call those who do not express condolences to the ditched American warriors? where do you come from


      so what about my questions - for example, will you express condolences to the Nazis on May 9?


      Location: Ukraine

      why did you fasten the Russian flag?
      1. ydjin
        ydjin 15 January 2016 19: 05 New
        -1
        Julia Petrof, your youthful maximalism is just killing! All you have to wave your sabers!
        Quote: Petrof
        Quote: newbie
        You think I’m pleased to clearly hear your psychopathic anger.



        so you do not answer anything but slurred nonsense
        never answered a single question

        Quote: newbie
        and when the roasted rooster pecks such angry truth-cutters - philosopher psychos will hide far away. life is a fact. and normal adequate people will get rid of the protection.


        probably that's why I went to the army


        Quote: newbie
        angry truth-bearers_ philosopher psychopaths


        do you call those who do not express condolences to the ditched American warriors? where do you come from

        So, I want to note. Impulsivity coupled with hysterical explosive mixture! Thank God our sovereign GDP, sober and prudent politician! I wish you less radicalism in the style of the possessed Schicklgruber. Regards...
        so what about my questions - for example, will you express condolences to the Nazis on May 9?


        Location: Ukraine

        why did you fasten the Russian flag?
        1. Oprychnik
          Oprychnik 15 January 2016 21: 11 New
          -1
          "Murka was sitting there
          In a leather jacket.
          She had a revolver on her side. "
          )))
  • Koshak
    Koshak 15 January 2016 18: 08 New
    +3
    Yes, Hawaii itself, in fact, US-occupied territory ... stop
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  • GOGY
    GOGY 15 January 2016 18: 12 New
    10
    There is nothing to spare them! This enemy is insidious, ruthless and vile, surpassing Hitler’s warriors in cruelty. They have transgressed the laws of man and thereby themselves, outside all laws, have appeared ...
  • newcomer
    newcomer 15 January 2016 18: 12 New
    +4
    yes listen petrof you know how to read? I say that they will run away. you really have to get some rest.
  • newcomer
    newcomer 15 January 2016 18: 18 New
    +4
    Petrof your whole Iliotic character is that you draw to the usual tragedy in the army as an example of condolences on May 9. Personally, I am gracious to you.
  • newcomer
    newcomer 15 January 2016 18: 20 New
    +4
    not the fact that you stay in the ranks.
    1. Petrof
      Petrof 15 January 2016 18: 25 New
      +7
      Are you a newbie?
      1. ydjin
        ydjin 15 January 2016 19: 24 New
        0
        Quote: Petrof
        Are you a newbie?

        First, being rude is not good! For the rest ... Yulia, you only need to chop wood, you are so adamant and straightforward as a cleaver! Should you run for president? Ditch our Russia in no time! You are up to VVP as a player in "Chapaev" (if anyone knows the game with checkers, when it was necessary to take out the opponent's checkers with clicks) against a chess grandmaster! Well, maybe someday you will grow wiser. PS I didn't give you a single minus. By the way, if a striped rag pops up in the place of my flag, then I'll tell you. I live on Sakhalin, served in the Soviet Army, Belarus, Germany, Kaliningrad regional, black shoulder straps with the letters SA.
        1. Petrof
          Petrof 15 January 2016 19: 32 New
          +1
          Quote: ydjin
          being rude is not good!


          and here rudeness is a statement of fact

          Quote: ydjin
          You are up to VVP as a player in "Chapaev"


          what kind of turns of thoughts do you have?
          where does the president then - have you read somewhere that I want to be president?

          Quote: ydjin
          black epaulettes with the letters CA.


          and I had blue shoulder straps with the letter F laughing
          And what from this?
          1. Oprychnik
            Oprychnik 15 January 2016 23: 43 New
            0
            Ah, the FSIN? Clear...
            Do not hit right away. First try to count to ten.)))
  • newcomer
    newcomer 15 January 2016 18: 28 New
    +4
    la because I'm Russian. under what flag well apparently forgot to ask you. and all my answers are below. vipey voleryanka and poletay. and about May 9, well, you went too far.
  • newcomer
    newcomer 15 January 2016 18: 30 New
    +4
    Listen to please free me from your unwary attention. you are an unpleasant person. I don’t communicate with such people.
    1. Petrof
      Petrof 15 January 2016 18: 36 New
      +1
      from what attention is an idiot laughing
      drunk already drank up what
  • newcomer
    newcomer 15 January 2016 18: 48 New
    +4
    Actually, I don’t drink or smoke. but about you I have a lot of fears. if you are an army man, then for starters you need to deprive you of access to weapons. then send to the doctors. I'm afraid, psychologically, you are no different from the same Yankees whose warriors do not love so dearly. can not answer. for me your psychological portrait is clear. you are a cowardly provocateur who is ready to do anything to humiliate an unloving person.
    1. Petrof
      Petrof 15 January 2016 19: 00 New
      +1
      so you kind of freed myself from my attention, why again? or are you looking for a virtual drinking buddy? laughing
  • Sergey333
    Sergey333 15 January 2016 19: 03 New
    -2
    This news is just a balm for the soul, it should be noted drinks
  • newcomer
    newcomer 15 January 2016 19: 11 New
    +4
    You are a petrophic dangerous and mean man. and cutting quotes is nothing. you would be on cnn, or on bbc. such people are appreciated there.
    1. Petrof
      Petrof 15 January 2016 19: 16 New
      +1
      Beginner go tell on cnn, or on bbc. how do you like American warriors there will approve you, evaluate, give some kind of grant
      but I’m not, they will not appreciate
      1. ydjin
        ydjin 15 January 2016 19: 38 New
        -1
        Quote: Petrof
        Beginner go tell on cnn, or on bbc. how do you like American warriors there will approve you, evaluate, give some kind of grant
        but I’m not, they will not appreciate

        Julia, and from whom do you have a grant? And did not try to be rude? Take a walk a little back!
        1. Petrof
          Petrof 15 January 2016 19: 47 New
          +1
          Quote: ydjin
          Take a walk a little back!


          if you really walked a branch a little back - you would see that only me was rude
          and I’m not even rudeness in return, but just a semblance of slight discontent

          Tomatoes, saury, beer
          And the fellow traveler is young.
          I will listen patiently
          Jokes with a beard.
          And forgetting that people are wolves,
          I will love all people.
          Even the aunt from the top shelf
          In the halo of curlers.
          1. Oprychnik
            Oprychnik 16 January 2016 00: 04 New
            -2
            Yes Yes. Heard.

            "Maybe she's like a nag to you,
            It’s so easy for me just right!
            I drove to Vachu crying -
            Come back having fun!

            Yes, yes, yes, trawl-wali, -
            As I learned about rubles ...
            Word by word, Vali
            Hundreds snooping around the table -
            With Valya together and left.

            Bad luck came with her, -
            I will heal it!
            I rode to Vachu crying,
            I come back - I laugh! .. "
            )))
  • Sergey333
    Sergey333 15 January 2016 19: 26 New
    +3
    Petrof, you and I hold on good
    1. Petrof
      Petrof 15 January 2016 19: 37 New
      +1
      drinks
      there I don’t offer anything stronger than kvass for a sad example (I will not indicate who) before my eyes laughing
  • ydjin
    ydjin 15 January 2016 19: 41 New
    -3
    Beginner, hold on! We are also for the truth! hi
  • Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 15 January 2016 20: 04 New
    +3
    Ameers are so peaceful that their military helicopters do not fit in the sky.

    It’s good that these are not atomic bomb strategists, as it was over Palomares.
  • sergant67
    sergant67 15 January 2016 20: 52 New
    +1
    If we compare ourselves with some Penthagon Warriors (according to the replicas of the losses of the Russian Aerospace Forces in Syria), then we could say: But not four?))).
  • tehnokrat
    tehnokrat 15 January 2016 21: 14 New
    +1
    Colleagues! Take a break from the discussion for a minute, pay attention to the true standard of professional restraint:

    "Search and rescue operation is complicated serious excitement at seae. The waves in the region of one of the largest Hawaiian islands - Oahu - reach a height of 12 meters. ”

    Not that we have weather reports, right ?; 3-4 cm of snow, and they’ll describe: “Guard! Blizzard!"
  • newcomer
    newcomer 15 January 2016 23: 40 New
    +4
    thanks for understanding ydjin. nicely. nice when you are judged by sane people.
  • AID.S
    AID.S 16 January 2016 01: 29 New
    +6
    Quote: OMEDB
    my grandfather told how in breaks at night on the front line, the fascists and our friends went to each other, tired of the war, drinking, eating and playing the accordion, and in the morning again the war!

    Either you or your grandfather, with all due respect to the veterans, have probably confused something (perhaps with the imperialist, where there were fraternities of opponents) or took the feature film "Zhenya, Zhenya and Katyusha" for a documentary. And perhaps your grandfather did not serve in Red Army.
  • 31rus
    31rus 16 January 2016 06: 23 New
    +4
    Dear, the USA, the enemy is number 1, and the loss of the enemy is a holiday for me, you can ban and put minuses, this doesn’t change anything