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Smartly against the Angels. Bulgarian Prime Minister came up with a "new" formula for a gas pipeline from Russia bypassing Ukraine

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A few days ago materials appeared in the Bulgarian newspapers stating that Bulgarian Prime Minister Boyko Borisov announced his readiness to resume discussions on the construction of a gas pipeline with the Russian Federation. It should be recalled that Bulgaria initially concluded an agreement with Russia regarding the construction of the South Stream gas pipeline under the Black Sea, and then, under pressure from Brussels and Washington, decided to withdraw from the agreement, announcing anti-Russian sanctions and that, like, would not be needed. As a result, the pipes, which have already been delivered to Varna and Burgas, have remained to lie on storage sites, for which Russia, by the way, still pays rent to the Bulgarians.


The materials in the Bulgarian newspapers made a lot of noise, especially in Bulgaria itself and in the camp of the “elder brothers” in the European Union. Shortly after the publication of Bulgarian journalists, who cited Boyko Borisov, the situation was presented in the Russian Ministry of Energy. The comment was reduced to the fact that there was no talk about any process of resuming negotiations on the South Stream with Bulgaria, and that the project, at least in the coming years, would not be reanimated. It would seem that there is nothing to discuss, because the Bulgarian newspapers issued a "duck".

However, on the eve of the news agency tapes came a message, somewhat clarifying the words expressed by the Bulgarian Prime Minister. The reports allege that Borisov did not mean the resumption of negotiations on the South Stream. Borisov decided to take a different path, declaring the possibility of negotiations on the implementation of a “new project”, under which Russian gas will flow into Bulgaria bypassing Ukrainian territory.

It should be noted here that Bulgaria is currently the only state in the European Union, which is 100% dependent on the Ukrainian transit of Russian gas to Europe. In other words, any “gas” bashing of Kiev, including the removal of gas from the pipe through which this same gas is pumped from Russia to Europe, primarily hit Bulgaria, since there is simply no “gas” alternative to this state. Here it is worth once again wondering how firmly “official” Brussels is holding tightly to official Sophia for the soft spot that Sophia spat on her own strategic interests.

Apparently, such a problem scratched the soul and the Bulgarian prime minister, who began to more closely monitor the weather forecasts. And these forecasts of the main Bulgarian democrat were clearly not pleased. So, forecasters for the next week predict a serious minus for Sofia. If daytime temperatures are within -4-6 Celsius, then at night the air temperature in the Bulgarian capital will drop to 13 frost.

Smartly against the Angels. Bulgarian Prime Minister came up with a "new" formula for a gas pipeline from Russia bypassing Ukraine


Under such weather conditions, the Bulgarian government will obviously need larger amounts of energy resources for heat supply than previously thought. And where are these resources to take? Option one is to purchase from Russia. But the “super-reliable” partner in the person of the Ukrainian state stands in the way, and is itself experiencing obvious problems with energy carriers, trying to break the comedy with the refusal to buy Russian gas at a price of 212 dollars per thousand cubic meters.

In such a situation, the Bulgarian prime minister is obviously trying to solve the most complicated equation, in which a variety of parameters must be taken into account: from the still-born South Stream and pressure from the Brussels "brothers" to indignation of ordinary Bulgarians who want to live in heat, and it doesn't matter where the government comes from countries are going to take this heat. Being between two fires, Boyko Borisov is trying to invent something that, in his opinion, should help him find a way out of the situation, while retaining what is called a political person.

Information Agency France-Presse quotes the words of the Prime Minister of Bulgaria to the ministers:

We say: "South Stream" stayed in stories. Europe has closed borders. We need different sources.


According to Borisov, the Balkansky terminal could receive not only Russian gas, but also gas from Azerbaijan, as well as liquefied gas from the territory of Greece and Romania.

Today on the agenda - gas distribution "Balkan Center". Russia can agree to build an underwater branch of the pipeline (along the bottom of the Black Sea - author's note) with two pipes with an annual capacity of 10 billion cubic meters. m each. And these pipes will fill our gas terminal with the further transportation of fuel through a new gas pipeline to Europe.




From such statements by the Bulgarian prime minister, it becomes clear that he, trying not to incur the punishment of the European Union and at the same time please the citizens of Bulgaria itself, is simply trying to "rename" the project. Like, if South Stream is impossible, then we’ll come up with a different name, plus slightly “correct” the likely logistics. As a result, the gas will go, as it were, not only from Russia, but also from other countries (even if the Russian volumes will be the most ambitious), and in fact this option may well be arranged by Brussels, which in turn is under pressure from Washington.

In general, the Bulgarian authorities are spinning, as they say, in a frying pan, inventing new formulas so as not to stay, naked and unheated in addition, I'm sorry, backwards ... And after all, the Bulgarian authorities do not want to spin, by definition. After all, if the same Borisov doesn’t help up, then Frau Merkel, publicly supporting the “sizzling” anti-Russian sanctions, will sluggishly push the “Nord Stream-2”, and, what is called, hello, Bulgaria ... Not to mention “hello, Ukraine "...

What will remain the aforementioned Ukraine in the case of the implementation of the new "streams"? It will remain either to be content with a gas reverse from Slovakia, until the Slovaks decide that it is time for them to really make money on the anti-Russian “bykovanie” of Kiev, or to build a mournful physiognomy and still really negotiate with Moscow. After all, the European "partners" of Ukraine, as practice shows with the same "little brothers" from Bulgaria, certainly think about the interests of Ukraine at the very least. Its own shirt, it will be closer to the body ...
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  1. Leprekon
    Leprekon 15 January 2016 06: 02 New
    +4
    It is possible to turn the rivers back, what can we say about gas projects. Here you just need to think over the payment of costs and risks, gentlemen-Europeans and "forward". Since "woke up", then the money is not to be sniffed.
    One of the great Chinese fantasies is to "create" an artificial island, closer to Europe, on which to install a gas hub to "Europe". Whoever pays from the Black Sea countries has a valve in his hands.
    1. shasherin.pavel
      shasherin.pavel 15 January 2016 08: 29 New
      +5
      Quote: Leprechaun
      create an "artificial island,

      Like a crazy idea, but do not judge in haste ... V. Vysotsky. No matter how crazy the idea is, to fill several islands between Sakhalin and the coast of Primorye, from Sakhalin to Iturup and make the Sea of ​​Okhotsk the inland sea of ​​Russia, fill a couple of islands from the Black Sea in Crimea to Romanian sea borders and acquire another third of the Black Sea, which is cooler than digging the Black Sea. The countries spent billions to conquer foreign territories, and here are millions of expenses, but for the whole future history, an increase in water territories. Only around Olenegorsk there are mountains of empty rock, which would be enough for a dozen islands at depths up to 100 meters. Why can't the same be poured in the seas? Here, after all, it’s enough that it rises above the water by 2 meters.
      1. eugraphus
        eugraphus 15 January 2016 11: 02 New
        +2
        Actually this idea is not new. The Chinese are washing islands. True, everyone really does not like it. We also had a conflict with Ukraine, when in the Kerch Strait they wanted to extend the spit in shallow water.
        Between Sakhalin and Primorye it is impossible to fall asleep. I read somewhere that then the climate will change, the migration of marine animals and fish. And north of the dam there will be continuous ice fields, and the absence of a current will create the mustiness of the bays.
        Arabs washed the island in the form of a palm tree, set up palaces, and the canals, due to the lack of flow, emit a terrible stench.
        1. abrakadabre
          abrakadabre 15 January 2016 14: 52 New
          +1
          Technically, you can fill in between Sakhalin and the mainland. But between Sakhalin and the South Curiae no. There are great depths
      2. Old shoe
        Old shoe 15 January 2016 16: 11 New
        +1
        Yes, the Sea of ​​Okhotsk has already been recognized as our inland.
        On March 15, 2014, by decision of the UN, the Sea of ​​Okhotsk was assigned to the inland waters of Russia.
      3. Senior manager
        Senior manager 15 January 2016 23: 01 New
        0
        It is better not to touch the Olenegorsk dumps when technologies allow them to start extracting money from them.
      4. Sea Wolf
        Sea Wolf 18 January 2016 02: 53 New
        0
        Like a crazy idea, but do not judge in haste ... V. Vysotsky. No matter how crazy the idea is, to fill several islands between Sakhalin and the coast of Primorye, from Sakhalin to Iturup and make the Sea of ​​Okhotsk the inland sea of ​​Russia,

        Comrade, the Sea of ​​Okhotsk has already been recognized as the inland sea of ​​Russia two years ago. Better not poke into the seas. This requires education and practice. Then, he even knows what depths are in the Black Sea. To sprinkle to you and to sprinkle.
  2. viktor561
    viktor561 15 January 2016 06: 03 New
    +9
    In the present reality and taking into account the sanctions, Gazprom will not pull the construction of another gas pipeline - and not even a reliable one - because Brussels easily blocks the project again at any stage - it’s better to focus and push Nord Stream-2 completely, which is quite realistic!
    1. Niki
      Niki 15 January 2016 08: 48 New
      0
      In the present reality, these two streams (North and South) are not physically connected. From the presence of the Northern Stream of Bulgaria, in principle, neither warmer nor colder - it is just ONLY for Germany and its neighboring countries with EXISTING gas pipelines in Europe itself.

      The problem is not in Gazprom, but only in the European decision / permit for the construction of new pipelines in Europe itself, and not in the seas or on the shores of Russia. And it is clear that for the construction within the European lands will need intra-European money, which simply does not exist. Sanctions are not the reason, in fact, but the result of a lack of funding opportunities.
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 15 January 2016 10: 45 New
      +1
      And Gazprom is not going to build anything - Bulgaria has shown itself as an unreliable business partner and Russia will not deal with it in the near future, regarding gas - South Stream is closed completely.
  3. ImPerts
    ImPerts 15 January 2016 06: 05 New
    +1
    Let's see, 2019 is just around the corner.
  4. mihai_md2003
    mihai_md2003 15 January 2016 06: 05 New
    17
    It is necessary to leave Bulgaria alone once its Germany and the states dance, even if they provide it. Or, as an option, the Bulgarians themselves build their own pipelines to their land on the territory of Russia, this will be insurance so that they will not rebuke again.
    1. APASUS
      APASUS 15 January 2016 08: 06 New
      +4
      Quote: mihai_md2003
      It is necessary to leave Bulgaria alone once its Germany and the states dance, even if they provide it.

      That's right, only Boyko Borisov is worried about his neck. The Bulgarians choose it, and they need to at least tell something about how cheap fuel was squandered, where the nuclear power plant went off, as it happened with the pipeline, there were only failures around.
      Here rumors started to go ............
  5. Kos_kalinki9
    Kos_kalinki9 15 January 2016 06: 16 New
    11
    Recently, materials appeared in Bulgarian newspapers stating that Bulgarian Prime Minister Boyko Borisov announced his readiness to resume discussion on the construction of a gas pipeline with the Russian Federation.

    Boyko Borisov forgot to add- Is Russia ready to talk to him? And will she want to talk?
    Well, about the outskirts of the "great" transit:
    in the West, Kiev was presented with a “bonded” demand in exchange for material support. This became known from a statement by Dmitry Marunich, co-chair of the Energy Strategy Fund, at a press conference in Kiev. According to him, NAK Naftogaz Ukrainy is no longer an independent organization and cannot buy cheaper gas.

    Marunich explained that Naftogaz does not have the ability to purchase fuel of its choice. The reason lies in the credit support of the West. Ukraine received a loan from the EBRD, the second tranche is promised from the International Finance Corporation. The total amount of cash assistance is about five hundred million dollars. At the same time, a condition was set in Europe: gas can be purchased only by reverse.

    “Therefore, even if another supplier (Gazprom or someone else) offered gas cheaper, then it would be simply impossible or nothing to buy,” Marunich explained.

    Well, what to add? Glory to the country 404 !!!!!
    1. hydrox
      hydrox 15 January 2016 07: 38 New
      +4
      But the point here is not at all the price of gas.
      It's just that the one who allocates money to buy is afraid to give it into the hands of the Bukrainians, as they steal it, you will not have time to blink an eye.
  6. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 15 January 2016 06: 28 New
    +8
    And before that, gas was not needed! In how cold it makes you accelerate the thought process!
  7. Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 15 January 2016 06: 28 New
    +5
    D-ah! And eat the fish, and sit on the tree "point without breaking"!
  8. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 15 January 2016 06: 30 New
    +4
    Doesn't shine for "brothers". And it doesn't heat. In vain they let their chance "under the knife", waiting for cookies from across the ocean. For diligence. Forgot about them immediately, as soon as they achieved their goal. So you have to invent all sorts of nonsense. The Bulgarians "cannot outplay" the Germans.
    1. hydrox
      hydrox 15 January 2016 07: 41 New
      +4
      And most of all I like HOW they manage our money: after all, Russia builds all these flows at our expense - so we need to demand that Gazprom payback in the foreseeable period ...
  9. Great-grandfather of Zeus
    Great-grandfather of Zeus 15 January 2016 06: 34 New
    +2
    Bulgarians, damn it, sometimes you feel sorry for you, but since from time immemorial in Russia they have spared the wretched-mind, mute consider a cripple, an ass hole-invalid.it is about you !.
    1. but still
      but still 15 January 2016 18: 00 New
      +1
      Quote: Great-grandfather of Zeus
      Bulgarians, damn it, sometimes you feel sorry for you, but since from time immemorial in Russia they have spared the wretched-mind, mute consider a cripple, an ass hole-invalid.it is about you !.


      It is necessary to pity you - since childhood you said such good words that now you repeat them yourself ?!

      Psychologists believe that victims of mental and physical aggression often themselves subsequently become aggressors.
      1. serge siberian
        serge siberian 17 January 2016 19: 07 New
        0
        Quote: but still

        Psychologists believe that victims of mental and physical aggression often themselves subsequently become aggressors.

        Isn't it too often sir creeps on other people's words like a flea on .. well then everyone knows by what. yes and how does it like for you sir the USSR flag?
        many people in the usa go to psychoanalysts and psychologists, but it doesn’t help, however, from a universal point of view.
        1. but still
          but still 17 January 2016 19: 51 New
          +1
          Is there a limit on the number of comments? And with the flag of the USSR you must be a "Stalinist"? Or a communist? Don't look for a black cat in a dark room - it's much easier.

          Russian psychologists also believe that aggression breeds aggression - these are universal phenomena. So I was hurt here - succumbed to the provocation of an aggressive sofa boor - in response to rudeness he began to be rude. Maybe they were trolls - they want to stop the Russian-Bulgarian pipe? what What do you think? request belay
  10. leytenant
    leytenant 15 January 2016 06: 58 New
    +6
    An interesting hypothetical question arises from this news article. And who will give a guarantee that a couple of years after the commissioning of the gas pipeline, the Bulgarian brothers will not begin to powder our brains and blackmail us in every way worse than the Ukrainian brothers ???
  11. ML-334
    ML-334 15 January 2016 07: 16 New
    +3
    There is an option, let them drive the pipeline to their border according to the South Stream project. All the more, there are pipes. Italy is dissatisfied with North, let it stick to Yuzhny.
  12. Darkboy2012
    Darkboy2012 15 January 2016 07: 24 New
    +3
    let them pay us for the laying - and we’ll even wrap them up through the North Pole ..))
  13. LÄRZ
    LÄRZ 15 January 2016 07: 24 New
    +3
    Actually, one could probably "fit" into this Bulgarian theme, just not to get caught up in it. These Brussels-Sophia intrigues and intrigues must be calculated. And so that no "brothers", only business.
  14. parusnik
    parusnik 15 January 2016 07: 29 New
    +5
    There are benefits, brothers, no benefits, invaders ...
  15. Zlat070
    Zlat070 15 January 2016 07: 30 New
    +1
    Quote: leytenant
    An interesting hypothetical question arises from this news article. And who will give a guarantee that a couple of years after the commissioning of the gas pipeline, the Bulgarian brothers will not begin to powder our brains and blackmail us in every way worse than the Ukrainian brothers ???

    And that's why let them pull this gas pipeline from their own to our border!
  16. ism_ek
    ism_ek 15 January 2016 07: 34 New
    +1
    German industrialists push through the Nord Stream Two gas pipeline. The conditions there are fabulous. Russia pays for everything. Merkel caved in under her industrialists. The Americans are against. The attack on Merkel has begun, the tactics are still the same. Internal unrest in Cologne. External pressures from US vassals.
    1. Corsair
      Corsair 15 January 2016 09: 41 New
      +2
      Quote: ism_ek
      German industrialists push through the Nord Stream Two gas pipeline. The conditions there are fabulous. Russia pays for everything. Merkel caved in under her industrialists. The Americans are against. The attack on Merkel has begun, the tactics are still the same. Internal unrest in Cologne. External pressures from US vassals.

      wassat Yes, all the way - now the Americans Volkswagen (through some lawyer associations - like not by the decision of the government, but through the courts) seem to press for 40 billion euros, along the way they will kick them out of their market (hello from Ford - those like our VAZ are immortals ). Then the banks of Deutschland will be pressed, finding some shoals in the past years and connections with our sanctioned gentlemen, and goodbye boy, that is, "Nord Stream-2". Americans know how to negotiate with partners "vassals" quickly.
  17. 31rus
    31rus 15 January 2016 07: 37 New
    +1
    Dear, meanwhile, Miller said that while the South Stream through Bulgaria is not considered, however, we do not exclude this route. It is believed that under certain conditions they will resume, Ukraine as a gas transit has not been completely deleted, again, under certain conditions, these options early, too uncertain
  18. Alice
    Alice 15 January 2016 07: 48 New
    +2
    Ukrainians have already jumped. Bulgarians, in principle, as well. Bulgaria is not an independent state. Therefore. I think it makes no sense to negotiate with them.
  19. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 15 January 2016 07: 58 New
    +7
    Honestly, this political prostitution is already pretty tired. Died, she’s dead and don’t have to move in a coffin.
    1. Panikovsky
      Panikovsky 15 January 2016 09: 14 New
      +2
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Honestly, this political prostitution is already pretty tired. Died, she’s dead and don’t have to move in a coffin.

      I agree, all these Bulgarian trepidations are falling under the old army saying: who the train was late, you shouldn't hurry.
  20. Belousov
    Belousov 15 January 2016 08: 29 New
    +2
    Well, you can resume the South Stream. But only after compensation for all losses incurred and the penalties for any deviation from the execution of the contract were clearly stated in the contract, do not include political risks in force majeure.
    1. BARKHAN
      BARKHAN 17 January 2016 17: 47 New
      +2
      Quote: Belousov
      Well, you can resume the South Stream. But only after compensation for all losses incurred and the penalties for any deviation from the execution of the contract were clearly stated in the contract, do not include political risks in force majeure.

      Great plan good plus to you. But the laying of pipes is still at their expense, otherwise they will not feel the importance of the event.
      1. but still
        but still 17 January 2016 18: 14 New
        0
        And you offer the Germans and Turks to build a pipe on your site at your own expense, so they will remove three skins from you (and so you sell gas to the Germans at the lowest prices, and how many months the Turks traded).

        Okay, I don’t know what the Bulgarian government is thinking about and going to do about it - let ours and yours negotiate and make decisions there. But I personally, if I were in the place of negotiators, would not succumb to hard pressure. And I would not talk to couch negotiators with boorish behavior. I leave the couch talks wassat Enjoy the further tube offer (personally from me)! hi

        1. BARKHAN
          BARKHAN 17 January 2016 20: 49 New
          +1
          Well, well. I got beaten, got hysterical and went ...
          We have not forgotten the two worlds against us. We have to pay for everything.
          You were given a hand with South Stream, you gave a shit about it.
          What is the claim. If you want gas, build.
          And you don’t equal the Germans, they cackle, but they push the second stream regularly. And when the Bandera route closes, the Germans will monopolize so that you don’t squeak.
          In general, our gas, how and to whom it is to supply our business.
          First, decide who you are. And stick to the end. And then you wag like ...
  21. gergi
    gergi 15 January 2016 08: 36 New
    0
    Quickly, Borisov should have already known, an adult is already an uncle, nobody is interested in the fate of the used condoms.
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  23. vladimir1958
    vladimir1958 15 January 2016 09: 29 New
    +2
    The Bulgarians came up with a new version of the gas pipeline is good. There is no need for the Russian Federation to lose friendship (too many enemies have appeared). Sign a clear agreement (with compensation for losses from the previous agreement) and everything will be fine for us (ordinary citizens) and the Russian Federation.
  24. Tali necos
    Tali necos 15 January 2016 09: 49 New
    +3
    Quote: vladimir1958
    The Bulgarians came up with a new version of the gas pipeline is good. There is no need for the Russian Federation to lose friendship (too many enemies have appeared). Sign a clear agreement (with compensation for losses from the previous agreement) and everything will be fine for us (ordinary citizens) and the Russian Federation.

    Exactly. Enemies are more than enough. It’s easier to be, it’s a market, only more global. It’s time to learn how to earn currency for the country without making new enemies. For yourself, your beloved, you can give up the rules and take a step back and bring the project to its logical end, not forgetting the safety of the money invested. Nothing personal, this is business. Something like this...
    1. yuriy55
      yuriy55 15 January 2016 15: 42 New
      0
      Quote: Tali Necos
      ... Nothing personal, this is business. Something like this...


      That's right. Only two legal entities, ready for business agreements and commercial transactions on mutual benefit ... good

      For the information of citizens who have lived in the white world for a small number of years. Time puts everything and everyone in their place. Now Russia has "friendly" relations with those countries with which in the recent past they were slightly "strained", and, conversely, we began to feel business sympathy for some countries ... wink
      1. kapitan92
        kapitan92 16 January 2016 21: 55 New
        +5
        ..... "Consent is a product with complete non-resistance of the parties" ... O. Bender smile
  25. Zomanus
    Zomanus 15 January 2016 10: 13 New
    +1
    The troubled region is now due to migration flows.
    So it will be very troublesome to build there.
    And again, the ruler of Bulgaria can always be changed.
    And FIG knows how the next ruler will be extorted.
  26. valent45
    valent45 15 January 2016 10: 13 New
    +1
    B. Borisov has long been crap in our direction, in any case, when it’s him
    profitable. Served in front of patrons. Not once noticed.
    Let him now justify himself to his people. Something like this.
  27. Stinger
    Stinger 15 January 2016 10: 34 New
    0
    I wouldn’t give anything to these .. Neither from the north, nor from the south.
  28. Private27
    Private27 15 January 2016 11: 11 New
    0
    Quote: ML-334
    There is an option, let them drive the pipeline to their border according to the South Stream project. All the more, there are pipes. Italy is dissatisfied with North, let it stick to Yuzhny.

    That's it. Let all these ** little brothers ** and the so-called partners / their mother / who needs gas pull the gas pipeline to RUSSIA and when they build the gas they will buy at our PRICE! That will be honest.
















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  29. kolobok63
    kolobok63 15 January 2016 11: 49 New
    +1
    Quote: Private27
    Quote: ML-334
    There is an option, let them drive the pipeline to their border according to the South Stream project. All the more, there are pipes. Italy is dissatisfied with North, let it stick to Yuzhny.

    That's it. Let all these ** little brothers ** and the so-called partners / their mother / who needs gas pull the gas pipeline to RUSSIA and when they build the gas they will buy at our PRICE! That will be honest.








    I completely agree, the hay does not go to the horse, the horse will come to the hay ... hi







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  30. Ros 56
    Ros 56 15 January 2016 12: 36 New
    +1
    What can be negotiated with the colonies what they decide. Without the permission of their black patron, they cannot squeak. I’m differently surprised if they violated the agreement, so pay our pipe costs and lost profits from an unrealized project, and build whatever you want. Pull the pipe at least across the Atlantic Ocean wherever you want. But yourself.
  31. tacet
    tacet 15 January 2016 14: 51 New
    +2
    "The Bulgarian prime minister has come up with a" new "formula for a gas pipeline from Russia bypassing Ukraine", well done, let him build, Gazprom, I think, will not mind.
  32. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 15 January 2016 14: 56 New
    0
    What else does he need? They didn’t want the gas pipeline - they did not begin to build. Now let the gas of the Great Gas Power - Ukraine - consume.
  33. jetfors_84
    jetfors_84 15 January 2016 16: 49 New
    0
    I think that after the skies were closed to us, as they were breaking with the southern stream, they will continue to ONLY "fantasize and dream of missed opportunities."
  34. but still
    but still 15 January 2016 17: 04 New
    +3
    Sofa gas talks in full swing fellow angry wassat

    To those commentators who, for the Bulgarians to build a pipe to Bulgaria at their own expense, is it really possible to get so frustrated and reveal your cards? In this way, you show that you don’t have money for the pipe and drive yourself into a corner! On the contrary, we need to fill the price ourselves - they say that we are pipe to Germany and Turkey (see Novak’s statement about the readiness to build a Turkish pipe http://www.vz.ru/economy/2016/1/14/788685.html) we can, and to China, and even offer a pipe to the Balts, Poles, Romanians, Indians ..... Arrange an auction! And the happy owner of the pipe will be the one who fully and unconditionally accepts all our conditions smile And if not, then there’s nothing to squander the people's wealth — you need to gasify your regions! We can wait a long time until the geyropeytsy ripen on our conditions - we hold on to the truth a little more belt, but break through - the oil price continues to fall, but so far we can patch up the budget for arms ... In what negotiations should be negotiated with intractable partners smile
    1. Awaz
      Awaz 15 January 2016 23: 00 New
      0
      Yes, it is necessary that they themselves all the infrastructure of the Herachilis their money
  35. Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 15 January 2016 19: 25 New
    +1
    What should Bulgaria do to get the South Stream? - To oppose the United States.
    1. midivan
      midivan 16 January 2016 02: 37 New
      +3
      Quote: Pvi1206
      What should Bulgaria do to get the South Stream? - To oppose the United States.

      to stock up firewood in the summer, and not dunk eggs in the sea bully
  36. Jmbg
    Jmbg 16 January 2016 10: 59 New
    +5
    I have such an observation that you trade normally only with those who are not averse to shooting at you.
    1. pytar
      pytar 16 January 2016 13: 22 New
      +4
      There is some truth in your observation. On the other hand, one cannot draw conclusions on the buzz comments of sofa specialists who write on the forums. Most of them have no idea about the issues under which they write. In addition, a lot of trolltin works on the forums. I think most of these comments can be included in the collection "Forum morons" laughing
    2. but still
      but still 17 January 2016 16: 30 New
      +2
      Quote: Jmbg
      I have such an observation that you trade normally only with those who are not averse to shooting at you.


      good So I came to the same conclusion - with the Turks and Germans they do not allow themselves to behave like they do with the Bulgarians.
  37. Prisoner
    Prisoner 16 January 2016 17: 43 New
    -1
    Meetings, discussions, agreements will begin again. Then, from across the sea, they will say "sit!" And that's all. Wasted time, wasted coffee. Bulgarians, s-e-r!
  38. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 17 January 2016 06: 36 New
    0
    Bulgaria once showing what a "reliable" partner it is, left a place for itself somewhere at the end of the line, not understanding what it threatens. Russia is not a dog that can be driven away, but can be admitted. Now, until the Bulgarians prove with time their corrected mistakes, they will not only elbows.
  39. pilot bin-bom
    pilot bin-bom 17 January 2016 08: 53 New
    +3
    It will remain either to be content with a gas reverse from Slovakia until the Slovaks decide.
    Well already got with a gas reverse!
    I have already written many times that it is technologically so difficult that there is no "reverse" in nature!
    1. Reduce the pressure in the pipe to zero.
    2. Create back pressure and fill the line with gas (but for this in Slovakia there should be storage facilities and powerful compressor stations working in the direction of Slovakia-Russia - where is all this?)
    3. Well, let's say they pumped gas upside down.
    4. Again, the pressure in the pipe to zero and the reverse gradual increase in pressure in the other direction.
    There is no reverse! Ukrainians simply dig gas immediately, and the undelivered amount is credited to the reverse.
  40. Batou
    Batou 17 January 2016 09: 27 New
    +2
    On the one hand, it seems that we can speculate that Russia is a great country and considers itself offended by the refusal of small Bulgaria from the South Stream project.
    But Bulgaria is really a small, poor country which is now very dependent on Brussels, on the entire European Union.
    So is big Russia standing in a pose in front of a small, dependent Bulgaria? All the more so if this "pose" is not beneficial for Russia itself. It is not yet clear with the Turkish and Nord Streams. Will their construction begin?
    So why not renew the old South Stream project? Pride does not allow?
    But on the other hand, this pride allows you to leave hundreds of millions of pipes in Varna and Burgas and millions of expenses for preparing for their laying.
    1. Sea Wolf
      Sea Wolf 18 January 2016 03: 08 New
      -1
      Alyosha stood and saw everything. How they betrayed Russia. HE witness. They also wanted to demolish, probably, so that conscience would not torment. Hundreds of thousands of lives for the liberation of Bulgaria from the Turkish yoke, and so what? Overboard them to feed sharks. They betrayed and sold everything they had. Let them sit and squat and do Ku before their masters.
      1. pytar
        pytar 18 January 2016 11: 12 New
        +3
        "Alyosha stood and saw everything. How Russia was betrayed. He is a witness. They also wanted to demolish, probably, so that conscience would not torment. Hundreds of thousands of lives for the liberation of this Bulgaria from the Turkish yoke, and what? Overboard them, to feed the sharks. They betrayed and sold everything they had. Let them sit and squat and do Qu before their masters. "
        Complete nonsense! Psychiatry! 1.Alyosha, as stood and stands. And on the ego pedestal there is always fresh flowery. Every year, the entrant go to the square in front of him and hold ceremonies. The authorities wanted to move him, but the Bulgarian people did not allow it. True, there were reasons for moving the monument for purely technical reasons. The soil under the foundation is weak and deformations are created that threaten the integrity of the entire monument. The previous year was overhauled and so far the problem has been resolved. 2.Russia liberated Bulgaria in 1877. In just 4 months, the companion returned 3 / 4 to the newly liberated territory, together with the entire Bulgarian population there, back under Ottoman slavery! For all subsequent attempts the Bulgarians will be freed, Russia interfered. For this, we and the Russians were in the opposite trenches! 3.The theme of "the betrayal of the Bulgarians" is a favorite among all the ovs' troll. It is readily accepted by many Russians who do not know history. And for some reason everyone forgets about their traitors, who are not equal in the world! Gorby ... Yeltsin ... The Russians are somehow uncomfortable ... Recognize who betrayed whom in reality and where it all came from!
  41. ALLxANDr
    ALLxANDr 17 January 2016 12: 31 New
    0
    Quote: sanya.vorodis
    Once lied, who will believe you? ©


    Bulgarians do not fail for the first time! Yes, and they wave their heads not like everyone else. When they say no, they shout YES, when yes they shout NO. Now, go take them now to understand what they really mean.
  42. Aandrewsir
    Aandrewsir 17 January 2016 12: 37 New
    0
    "Brothers", you know ... When it is profitable for them to be "brothers". And as we have problems, for some reason they immediately cease to be "brothers". They even agree to sacrifice their own benefit in order to please the "overseers" from across the ocean.
  43. isergil
    isergil 17 January 2016 12: 51 New
    -1
    "But Bulgaria is really a small, poor country that is now very dependent on Brussels, on the entire European Union."
    Bulgaria itself chose which country to be. Let's remember the anti-Russian demonstrations during the "liberation". Let's remember the enthusiasm for joining the European Union and NATO.
    How resourceful the Russian people! We were ashamed, cursed, destroyed by the monuments of our soldiers who conquered Europe from the Nazis at the cost of their lives.
    And now let's pity them, small and unreasonable, each time ready to betray and spit in the soul.
  44. bratchanin
    bratchanin 17 January 2016 13: 19 New
    -1
    To deal with the Bulgarians - it will be more expensive.
  45. Bulrumeb
    Bulrumeb 17 January 2016 18: 57 New
    -1
    According to Borisov, the Balkansky terminal could receive not only Russian gas, but also gas from Azerbaijan, as well as liquefied gas from the territory of Greece and Romania


    On such occasions, the old urks said: "If two nipples fit into your mouth, then two x .."
  46. but still
    but still 17 January 2016 19: 20 New
    +1
    Today is a beautiful day - sanctions from Iran have finally been lifted! fellow I am very happy for Iranian relatives - the Bulgarians and Iranians have a common story! good fellow
  47. serge siberian
    serge siberian 17 January 2016 19: 31 New
    -1
    take the money for the work done and the pipes. then let them decide how they will continue to live. with the European Commissioners and NATO or by themselves. there was a time when they drove a lot of loot into the "brothers", as well as into Cuba, and other "brothers. b factories and others used to live normally, but only the appendages of the EU.
  48. T100
    T100 17 January 2016 21: 35 New
    0
    You can argue as much as you like, but before Baptism they will not be able to build it anyway, and there, you look, it will become warmer - and the need will disappear again ... wink
  49. but still
    but still 19 January 2016 19: 22 New
    0
    Abstracting from emotions, Bulgaria (including the EU as well) and Russia benefit from the pipe to Varna. The second pipe to Germany contradicts the EU’s desire to diversify suppliers, routes and recipients of gas, so there negotiations can drag on for a long time. There are no such contradictions with the Bulgarian pipe. In addition, Russia should have strengthened itself in southern Europe in advance, before the future entry of new gas suppliers to the European market from the southeast, otherwise it would lose part of the market. The Turkish pipe is irrelevant for many reasons, although it was also a year ago - there were too many contradictions and risks.

    So I sincerely hope that the parties will agree on the Bulgarian pipe smile