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The supply of militants from Turkey complicated the operation of the Syrian army

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The supply of militants from Turkey complicated the operation of the Syrian armyThe government’s attack on Palmyra, which was widely announced, can hardly be called an offensive. The maximum advance per day does not exceed hundreds of meters - and this is already almost a month. The Syrian army makes extensive use of helicopter support, as well as barreled artillery, but it fails to gain a foothold in the bare desert without any natural cover.


The proposed operation based on the landing of troops in the rear of ISIL - at several key points on the way to Palmyra - turned out to be impossible due to the banal lack of units prepared for this kind of action. In addition, an increasing number of troops and militia are diverted to the encirclement of numerous jihadist enclaves after their front has actually collapsed in the provinces of Hama and Homs.

Widespread fame история of the city of Madaya, which the Syrian opposition presents as a humanitarian tragedy. In particular, one of the opposition leaders, Riyad (Riyaz) Hijab, who came to Paris for talks with French Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius, especially stressed the situation in this 40-thousand city located near the Syrian-Lebanese border. The city has been under complete siege by government forces for almost half a year, but local jihadist and opposition groups from among the so-called moderates refuse to surrender.
The Riyadh Farid Hijab is the most senior (in the past) “refugee” from the entourage of Bashar al-Assad, who was appointed to identify with himself these still not really identified “moderate forces”. In 2011, he even headed a committee to suppress anti-government actions and fell under the personal sanctions of the US Treasury Department. In the summer of 2012, the Prime Minister of Syria managed to work hard for a month, but apparently failed, was dismissed, and then he and his family fled to Jordan, where he was transformed from a representative of the inner circle of Bashar al-Assad into the “moderate” puppet.

In Paris, Riyad Hijab brought to Fabius all the usual humanitarian pathos in such cases about the need for urgent assistance to the civilian population who are trying to starve the bloody regime. The humanitarian problem in Madai is indeed obvious, but it could have been solved long ago if the local Islamist leaders agreed to the “displacement” that had already become a routine matter. They, however, rested, giving the liberal world community an excellent excuse to again accuse Assad of unconventional methods of warfare. In parallel, the Riyadh Hijab actually forced the head of the French Foreign Ministry to accuse Russia of having waged a war against the civilian population. As a result, Fabius demanded that the government of the SAR end the siege of Madai and "other cities", which does not fit well with the idea of ​​military cooperation in the fight against terrorism.


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The fact is that in the central part of Syria, the organized resistance of various groups of jihadists was practically crushed, their solid front in the rear of the government forces was destroyed, and only individual settlements remained, which turned into jihadist enclaves. The ISIS fortified area in the eastern suburbs of Damascus is in approximately the same condition. But if there are periodically carried out stripping and "relocation", then in a number of settlements such as Madaya created a stalemate. To storm the city the troops are not going to because of the possibility of large losses, including among civilians, and to lift the siege is to give the jihadists a new advantage. The delay in the siege really leads to humanitarian problems, which they are trying to solve with the help of humanitarian convoys. But the opposition, especially the “moderate”, uses these incidents to conduct a propaganda war. Among the Ukrainian-oriented bloggers, the term “Madai Famine” has already flickered.

At the same time, government forces using the 66th Brigade of the 11th tank divisions supported by Russian aviation launched a major attack on the city of Taxis in the province of Hama. Earlier in the same region, about 30 settlements were liberated on the way to Taxis, which is considered the key to the Ar-Rastan Valley and the Al-Asi River. While the battles are on the northern perimeter of Taxis.

At the same time, the beginning of the attack and the 4-I Airborne Brigade of the Republican Guard, supported by the 137-th artillery brigade of the 17-th Reserve Division. These forces are moving south of Deir-ez-Zor with the support of the Russian HQs. By January 11 they managed to seize the oil fields with At-Thai, which were holding large ISIS forces. According to a number of data, government forces finally occupied At-Tayem only after a four-hour armed clash. ISIS equipped roundabout routes around this settlement with which they supplied the forces of extremists in the military airfield of Deir ez-Zor, a military base and an old cemetery. In the hands of the Islamists, al-Nishan’s oil field and several blocks in close proximity to the city still remain. The 104 airborne brigade, supported by Shiite units, attempted to push the front line away from the airport, but advanced only 200 meters, and the clashes from the eastern perimeter of the air base shifted to the area of ​​the former agricultural technical school, which ISIS uses as the local headquarters.
In the province of Latakia, government troops, with perseverance worthy of better use, again aimed to storm the city of Salma, from which there is already little left - the fortified positions of jihadists in the rocks around were for a long time one of the main targets for the Russian HVAC. Nevertheless, it would be naive to expect Salma to study in one or two days, even with the active support of Russian aviation.

In general, in the mountainous area in the region bordering with Turkey, the offensive is developing in its unhurried course. Government forces are gradually squeezing out key points and small cities from jihadists. At the same time, various groups in this zone receive a stable supply from Turkey, and therefore periodically make attempts at counter-offenses. This is also facilitated by a sharp deterioration in the weather in the region: prolonged rains began in the mountainous and foothill zones, which hindered the planned actions of aviation in reconnaissance of targets and reduced its effectiveness. Taking advantage of the situation, parts of the jihadists attacked after the New Year the city of Burj al-Kasab, but were stopped by government forces.

But in the south of Syria in the province of Deraa, the fighting took on an exceptionally fierce character, which few seem to have expected. Government forces launched an offensive on the large city of Sheikh Maskin, which lies on the strategic road Damas - Deraa. Very quickly, the battles took on the character of the slaughter, and parts of the 82 Army Brigade, relying on their own base on the outskirts of the city, broke through to the center several times, but did not have time to gain a foothold in the new positions. Russian aviation also joined the operation, but the jihadists were able to bring reinforcements and they themselves began to assault the base of the 82 brigade.

At the same time, “Dzhebhat en-Nusra” bears enormous losses in Sheikh Maskin, along the entire motorway, at Daile and in Deraa itself, including the management team. But the jihadists do not want to give up strategic points in Deraa province, as a result the battles turned into a large-scale battle with a predictable result, but with heavy losses also for the Syrian army, which is not satisfied with the command of government forces.

The offensive in the Aleppo area is also progressing at the planned pace. The situation is more complicated in residential areas that control “Dzhebhat al-Nusra”, “Haraket ash-Sham” and other takfirist groups. Fights go in almost every one of them. The sweep of the city threatens to drag on, especially if you remember the peculiar relief, the configuration of the front line and the still remaining supply from Turkey.

On the rest of the fronts, the battles after the New Year were local. For example, in the suburbs of Damascus, the advancement of government troops was reduced to one-time firefights, the destruction of single technicals pick-ups and artisanal rocket launchers. But on the whole, the strategic preponderance of the government forces outlined by the end of 2015, has been felt. Another thing is that now the army is encountering particularly bitter resistance from both ISIS and the rest of the jihadist forces. The reason for this is the advancement of the army and allies to key points of opposition resistance and thereby threatening the very existence of several large centers of anti-government forces. In particular, the defeat in the province of Deraa eliminates the supply system of jihadists from Jordan. And, say, the slow elimination of the enclave to the east of Damascus will finally make it possible to redirect large forces towards Palmyra. And from her and to Rakki hand set.
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  1. bandabas
    bandabas 16 January 2016 06: 17
    +2
    The fact that the Turks shot down our plane were flowers. And the berry harvest seems to be starting soon. There are many workers, and there is only one plot.
    1. aktanir
      aktanir 16 January 2016 07: 55
      -49 qualifying.
      I don’t understand why, instead of numerous exercises, the Russian Airborne Forces could not carry out a targeted local operation in Syria. Let’s say, in large numbers to land in the Palmyra region, take the city with the Syrians and return to their location on the territory. RF We would check the combat readiness of our Armed Forces in business, but would not get involved, come and go when the task is achieved. This, of course, is war, this is blood, losses are probable, but it’s better to practice on such an enemy and then know your own worth. I think it would be possible to take a chance.
      1. Tatyana
        Tatyana 16 January 2016 08: 01
        +5
        Yeah! In the Middle East, the devil himself will break his leg! The scheme is interesting, but probably also incomplete.
        You need to be an outstanding politician to figure it all out; to have all sorts of means to get this all right - and without force pressure, nothing will succeed anyway. There are too many ideologically insane people on BV who are already, in principle, not adapted to peaceful life. Robbery and war became their means of subsistence, their earnings.
        1. evge-malyshev
          evge-malyshev 16 January 2016 10: 22
          +1
          Quote: Tatiana
          Yeah! In the Middle East, the devil himself will break his leg!


          I join. Reminds a bunch of organized crime groups, each fighting for its own "zone of influence." Even a "gathering of godfathers" will not lead to anything good. Prospects? Unfortunately, deplorable. For a long time.
        2. Lelek
          Lelek 16 January 2016 17: 05
          +4
          Quote: Tatiana
          You need to be an outstanding politician to figure it all out.


          It should be simplified to the status - "who is not with us, he is against us", and everything falls into place. We are too often cautious: "What will Princess Marya Alekseevna say there ..." and on this we lose a lot. In this cruel world, only strength and intelligence are recognized. But in no case should you get involved in a war "on the ground." yes
        3. Maj.
          Maj. 16 January 2016 17: 37
          +1
          Tatyana is not good for some peasants, think soberly.
        4. ydjin
          ydjin 17 January 2016 00: 59
          0
          Quote: Tatiana
          Yeah! In the Middle East, the devil himself will break his leg! The scheme is interesting, but probably also incomplete.
          You need to be an outstanding politician to figure it all out; to have all sorts of means to get this all right - and without force pressure, nothing will succeed anyway. There are too many ideologically insane people on BV who are already, in principle, not adapted to peaceful life. Robbery and war became their means of subsistence, their earnings.

          Briefly and to the point!
      2. Chiropractor
        Chiropractor 16 January 2016 10: 07
        0
        Here and now, the risk has not yet been justified. Now, if Assad's palace had been stormed, then yes ...
        1. Maj.
          Maj. 16 January 2016 17: 39
          0
          and what's the point?
      3. avia1991
        avia1991 16 January 2016 10: 37
        12
        Quote: aktanir
        why, instead of numerous exercises by the Russian Airborne Forces, perform a local targeted operation in Syria

        BECAUSE BECAUSE!
        Do you even understand yourself what you are offering?
        First, the President stated and repeatedly confirmed that ground forces will not participate in the Syrian conflict. Offer him to become "Obama", not in charge of the bazaar?
        Secondly, losses in l / s will be incomparably greater than the death of two people in a recent provocation. Are you sure that it is with Russian blood that the victory of the Syrian government should be ensured? ..
        Thirdly, such actions can provoke a large-scale use of ground forces by the countries of the American "coalition", at the same time the Americans will again "accidentally" throw off a couple of tens of tons of weapons and ammunition to support the "moderate opposition" in the "holy war" against our landing party.
        Our troops, if they get there, will collide not only - and not so much - with the Ishilovites, but with the whole "flock" sitting around, just waiting for an excuse to "bite Russia" more painfully. And if you consider that the fighting spirit of the Syrian government army is far from the Russian one - I'm afraid, to ensure success, we will also have to introduce a couple of motorized rifle divisions - for an attack from the front, towards the landing wassat Otherwise, it will resemble the Dnieper airborne operation of 1943 ..
        1. aktanir
          aktanir 16 January 2016 14: 18
          +1
          The president is to calm the funded it is not clear at whose expense the Committee of Soldiers' Mothers says. GDP is a man, a Chekist, a military man, it is unlikely that his words spoken to the public reflect his true opinion.
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          2. avia1991
            avia1991 17 January 2016 00: 44
            0
            Quote: aktanir
            his true opinion

            it doesn’t matter in the matter of keeping the country by the promises of its President.
            And about
            Quote: aktanir
            man, security officer, military man

            I would like to note that only those who have not served can say so. Because "chekist" and "military man" are two big differences. A non-military man may well be a Chekist - who, in fact, is Putin.
      4. Sergey7311
        Sergey7311 16 January 2016 11: 34
        +3
        And the coffins from Syria will go to Russia.
      5. go
        go 16 January 2016 11: 42
        +6
        Quote: aktanir
        I don’t understand why, instead of numerous exercises, the Russian Airborne Forces could not carry out a targeted local operation in Syria. Let’s say, in large numbers to land in the Palmyra region, take the city with the Syrians and return to their location on the territory. RF We would check the combat readiness of our Armed Forces in business, but would not get involved, come and go when the task is achieved. This, of course, is war, this is blood, losses are probable, but it’s better to practice on such an enemy and then know your own worth. I think it would be possible to take a chance.


        We have already taken a chance once on New Year's Eve in Grozny. Train ... will you go "train" yourself?
        1. prostofily
          prostofily 17 January 2016 15: 19
          -1
          You served in the army or drink.
      6. Pissarro
        Pissarro 16 January 2016 12: 25
        +5
        It’s not difficult to enter, it’s difficult to get out. The Syrian army is not able to hold on to what we hypothetically release because of its current state. Therefore, under your scenario, you have to sit and keep it occupied. Yes, and if you drop somewhere, it’s a hole in the Turkish-Syrian border, and not to Palmyra. And this is a direct clash with the Turks. As long as the flow of militants trained in Turkey and supplied from Turkey does not stop, it’s pointless to sit somewhere and repel their attacks, the Islamists have almost unlimited cannon fodder and financial resources
        I believe that the current format for the disposal of our old bombs by dropping them on the heads of terrorists and the rotational run-in of our VKS and Navy is most effective. You can help Krainyak with a couple of volunteer brigades of Kadyrov’s, if you find a way to control them well
        1. aktanir
          aktanir 16 January 2016 13: 08
          -6
          if there are all the alarmists, who are even hypothetically (!!!) afraid of presenting a single option for our special forces to participate in military affairs, then what can we expect when the weakened Syrians will push through everything and the Americans, rubbing their hands, will push all this chaos close to our borders with all the consequences , then you will have to pay twice for cowardice or indecision ...
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          2. avia1991
            avia1991 17 January 2016 01: 01
            0
            Quote: aktanir
            if there are all alarmists,

            Follow the bazaar!
            There are enough honored combat officers, and just people with REAL combat experience, so before writing this, I advise you to move your brains, and not with a toy checker in front of the computer. It is with such hysterical looks that the greatest nonsense is being created. And if it still rolls on a civilian - then in the conditions of the database it leads to unjustified - and even meaningless - losses.
      7. Starik72
        Starik72 16 January 2016 13: 08
        +4
        No aktanir. Until the United States ceases to build peace at its discretion, none of our OUR local ones (as you write training attacks on terrorists) will help the Syrian troops, because if our troops enter Syria, this will give the US, Turkey, the Saudis and other sheluponi a chance to get into into a fight. Indeed, even so, this shelupon under the cover of the United States, Turkey and the Saudis creeps into Smria. I don’t give you a minus, but I’ll write it this way, it’s better to teach the Army at home without loss than to get into a fight and incur losses directly. Indeed, WE already provide tremendous assistance to the Syrian army, and not only by air strikes, but also morally.
        1. aktanir
          aktanir 16 January 2016 14: 13
          -8
          once we made a swift march to Pristina. And this is in a situation where we were no longer considered people, not to mention the state with its own opinion. In conditions of poverty, devastation, corruption, total theft, total absence of any hope for the future, they showed everyone their teeth. And now they’re striking our ally alive, and we, you know, are saving a huge army, we are holding it for beauty. Half of the country dreams of making money as our military is now, and it turns out that they are kept for beauty and training. The military has its own specifics; their service is very difficult in its own way. But no one pushes them by force either.
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          2. avia1991
            avia1991 17 January 2016 00: 54
            0
            Quote: aktanir
            showed everyone their teeth

            Did you do that throw?
            And what happened next, don't you remember? They showed the teeth, hid them - and disappeared to the location. And then, when Yugoslavia was bombed, why didn't we show everyone "Kuz'k's mother"?
            Russia, in this case, is doing everything right. Independence won by one’s own blood is much more expensive and gives more reasons for national pride and dignity. That will be so in Syria.
            And don't forget: among other things, this is also a war for resources (like most wars). And Russia in Syria is not at all altruistic! And therefore I will all the more disagree that it is necessary to send our guys to conquer living space for our "oilmen"!
            And help from the air - why not? Others are bombing ... moreover, we are officially there.
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      9. Freelancer7
        Freelancer7 16 January 2016 18: 48
        +3
        Without decent art training, without tacts, without reserves and rear - this will be special. infantry operation, and this is an awesome risk. Those. 50/50 put everyone or tasks will be completed. Recall the same Blackhawk down - when the Americans actually lost the delta. If you get in (I think this is stupid), then with a uniform front and a classic (since WWII) way - unload the composition of artillery shells into positions, take a position, unload, hold, etc. And all these skirmishes, only in the movies are cool.

      10. prostofily
        prostofily 17 January 2016 14: 56
        0
        Damn mixed up did not want to put a minus. Yes, it will be but in a more extreme environment.
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    3. iouris
      iouris 16 January 2016 22: 56
      0
      We have to get used to the fact that the situation in this part of the world will only get worse. No need for sudden movements - you need to "concentrate".
  2. LÄRZ
    LÄRZ 16 January 2016 06: 19
    +8
    Yes, the Syrian ball will be cooler than the "beard" on the spinning. But it is necessary to untangle it, perhaps even to "cut" it somewhere. And the Turkish card in Syria will be beaten, no matter how they oppose. How the Hitlerite was beaten.
    1. novobranets
      novobranets 16 January 2016 06: 29
      15
      Quote: LÄRZ
      Yes, the Syrian ball will be cooler than the "beard" on the spinning.

      As a fisherman, I will tell you, the "beard" is not difficult to untangle, you need to look carefully and pull out one or two loops blocking the whole ball, the rest of the knot will crumble by itself. Likewise in Syria, one or two states need to be forced to moderate their appetites, the rest must be decided by itself. Just don’t ask how to do it, I don’t know. More precisely, there is an idea, but thus gluttons will not like it very much.
      1. venaya
        venaya 16 January 2016 06: 38
        +7
        Quote: novobranets
        you need to force one or two states to moderate their appetites, the rest is decided by itself

        I am sorry, but I’m afraid that these same states are nothing but parasitic states, they will not survive to moderate their appetites for their death. I do not even ask you the names of these states, and I myself am aware of the difficulties in publicizing them.
        1. cap
          cap 16 January 2016 16: 33
          +6
          Quote: novobranets
          Quote: LÄRZ
          Yes, the Syrian ball will be cooler than the "beard" on the spinning.

          As a fisherman, I will tell you, the "beard" is not difficult to untangle, you need to look carefully and pull out one or two loops blocking the whole ball, the rest of the knot will crumble by itself. Likewise in Syria, one or two states need to be forced to moderate their appetites, the rest must be decided by itself. Just don’t ask how to do it, I don’t know. More precisely, there is an idea, but thus gluttons will not like it very much.


          I will join the discussion of fishermen as a hunter with experience.
          All “nodes” are essentially hare loops around the feed base, or otherwise “labeled territory”.
          It should be borne in mind that the existing enclaves of Turkomans of the Alavite Kurds, etc., one listing of which will take a whole page, took centuries. All the ideological messages for a joint struggle are somehow related to leaving their homes.
          These are water sources, roads, and existing trade and other ties in the territories, and now oil. Thinking in terms of the Fatherland, the Homeland is in danger, in our Russian understanding, is naive. Each eastern fox wants to have its own hole and its own servants, which will serve it. East is a delicate matter. Remember the "White Sun of the Desert." There is a war of all against all.
          The whole game of the Anglo-Saxons in the East is built precisely on these contradictions.
          What can I say in the world as a whole. First color Arab, Georgian and then on the list spring. Then a hot summer with shootings. In the fall, the harvest is where all or almost all goes to the main gardener. Or agronomist. This is how you want. Which is stronger and the whole crop can buy and sell with the giblets of its fans.
          Syria is not Afghanistan. Betting is more for various reasons. Therefore, the war will continue until the last "Javdet." It doesn’t matter how they call him, and how much his head will cost.
          Something like that. hi
          1. LÄRZ
            LÄRZ 16 January 2016 23: 51
            +2
            Quote: cap
            There is a war of all against all.

            But there was a time of relative calm. At the very least, treaty parity was respected, albeit worthless, but there was a balance. Now everything is ruined and this Middle East / North African genie escaped needs to be herded back into its lamp / jug. As VVP said: "Do you even understand what you have done?" I don’t want to give my assessment now: who, when, why, etc. HOW? HOW to get the genie back? Are there ways and plans? Specific plans.
      2. LÄRZ
        LÄRZ 16 January 2016 07: 25
        +4
        Quote: novobranets
        you need to force one or two states to moderate their appetites, the rest will be decided by itself.

        As you know, "Appetis comes with meals." Having tasted it once ... it's hard to pull off a piece already.
        1. novobranets
          novobranets 16 January 2016 08: 03
          +2
          Quote: LÄRZ
          Having tasted it once ... it’s already difficult to pull away from a piece.

          Or you’ll plunge into this piece so that you have to tear off the meat. Like in that joke:
          - Bear caught.
          -So drag him here.
          -Does not go.
          - Then drop it.
          -Do not let.
          1. LÄRZ
            LÄRZ 16 January 2016 08: 08
            +3
            Quote: novobranets
            have to tear off the meat.

            But in this sense, any part of Turkish meat would please me. And not only Turkish.
            1. Pissarro
              Pissarro 16 January 2016 12: 32
              +3
              At the same time, the Turkish army resists Erdogan's attempts to drag it into Syria. It is, in fact, our potential ally in the fight against Islamist Erdogan. He has been strangling the Kemalists for a long time and they have a big grudge against him. The key principle of Ataturk is "peace in Turkey, peace along Turkish borders" trampled, prison generals, Islamist political leaders rule in the army
      3. Junior, I
        Junior, I 16 January 2016 08: 50
        +3
        Here one state is enough, the United States, and all will quiet down for a hundred years.
        1. NIKNN
          NIKNN 16 January 2016 10: 23
          +4
          Quote: Younger, I
          Here one state is enough, the United States, and all will quiet down for a hundred years.

          One hundred hardly ... World wars occur at what frequency? In Yalta, they decided that they would not allow more fascism (who decided?), But he was there (who fed?), And this is the conclusion ... hi
          1. avia1991
            avia1991 16 January 2016 10: 55
            -4
            Quote: NIKNN
            One hundred hardly ..

            Well why .. Help the Yellowstone volcano to "wake up" .. wassat Then little will not seem to ALL, of course - but you can forget about the USA forever! On a scale of several human lives, for sure.
            1. avia1991
              avia1991 16 January 2016 12: 00
              -1
              laughing laughing !!!
              Favorite pastime of wordless "nihilists": there is nothing to say, but "I AM AGAINST" - I really want to blather! Therefore, I will quietly put a minus - and I will feel "cool"! laughing
              And what about Russia's new strategy, "Status-6," to prepare self-propelled underwater thermonuclear charges? Don't they serve the same purpose?
            2. zyablik.olga
              zyablik.olga 16 January 2016 12: 29
              +9
              Quote: avia1991
              Well why .. Help the Yellowstone volcano to "wake up" ..

              Sergey, you did not bet a minus, and I will try to debate. In my opinion, it is time to move away from the philosophy of mutual annihilation; this does not lead to anything good. In addition, if a supervolcano wakes up in Yellowstone National Park, it will be sour not only in the US, but in us. We live on one planet, we should not forget about this, regardless of whether Americans like them (Jews, negros, Chukchi, etc.) or not.
              1. avia1991
                avia1991 16 January 2016 15: 56
                +2
                Quote: zyablik.olga
                if a supervolcano wakes up in Yellowstone National Park, not only the USA will be sour, but also to us
                Olga, what about
                Quote: avia1991
                Then little will not seem to ALL, of course
                ??? I am fully aware of the consequences, and this option of influence was given only as an example, to justify my disagreement with Nikolai:
                Quote: NIKNN
                One hundred hardly.

                Regarding the proposal
                Quote: zyablik.olga
                it's time to move away from the philosophy of mutual annihilation, it doesn’t lead to anything good.
                - I am personally "For" wink , that's just the Americans are against, for some reason .. And therefore we need to be strong, and not forget to demonstrate this - because THEY regard any manifestation of peacefulness and attempts to reach an agreement as weakness! Remember WHO were the ancestors of the current "supermen"? HOW were the fortunes of the economic "elites" in America earned? .. These gasspadas perfectly understand the language of power, and they speak it with the whole world! And you need to speak with them in THEIR language. Then there is a chance to come to an agreement.
                It's nice to talk with people like you, Olya hi : everyone brings something out of the discussion for himself. A blind minus ... I don’t understand what the buzz lol
              2. _my opinion
                _my opinion 16 January 2016 18: 43
                +3
                Quote: zyablik.olga
                Quote: avia1991
                Well why .. Help the Yellowstone volcano to "wake up" ..

                Sergey, you did not bet a minus, and I will try to debate. In my opinion, it is time to move away from the philosophy of mutual annihilation; this does not lead to anything good. In addition, if a supervolcano wakes up in Yellowstone National Park, it will be sour not only in the US, but in us. We live on one planet, we should not forget about this, regardless of whether Americans like them (Jews, negros, Chukchi, etc.) or not.

                I add that in the US there are adequate people and their lot more than any McCain / Obama and other similarly exceptional ones (= inadequate). And neither a volcano nor a nuclear weapon will choose who in front of it ... will destroy everything ...
                1. avia1991
                  avia1991 16 January 2016 20: 29
                  0
                  Quote: _my opinion
                  neither a volcano nor a nuclear weapon will choose-who in front of it ... will destroy it ...

                  Yes, yes! Of course!
                  Will you personally be comforted that the order to destroy your country will be given not by "adequate Americans", but by gentlemen of McCain's sense? wassat And they just do not care that some "adequate" do not like it!
                  You do not understand? I'm talking about what arguments are understood by those in power in the camp of the enemy! And if you cannot speak THIS language with them, you will either be "devoured" (absorbed) or destroyed. hi
  3. Internal combustion engine
    Internal combustion engine 16 January 2016 06: 34
    +6
    And where is the Syrian government army grenade launchers? In urban battles, this is a very valuable thing. See how Donbass militias are wielded by them simply by beauty. Tanks, armored personnel carriers, air support is all very necessary, but this war is primarily infantry. The infantry therefore needs to be armed to the teeth, then success will go and losses will decrease.
    1. Pissarro
      Pissarro 16 January 2016 12: 34
      +2
      And where does the Syrian army have normal body armor and helmets? With all due respect to the five-year war army, they look like partisans, not a regular army.
  4. Korsar4
    Korsar4 16 January 2016 06: 38
    +2
    I look at the picture - a multidimensional chessboard. Also, light figures can move from camp to camp. A lot of hot coals, not easy to put out.
  5. s.melioxin
    s.melioxin 16 January 2016 06: 42
    +4
    Who is friends with whom and is fighting in Syria and Iraq
    Silently slate rustling - the roof is going slowly. Yeah. Once again, you are convinced, looking at the photo, that the East is a delicate matter. And it seems to me that "tomorrow" it will not end.
  6. Same lech
    Same lech 16 January 2016 06: 43
    +5
    In general, in the mountainous zone in the area bordering Turkey, the offensive develops with its leisurely move. Government forces are gradually pushing out key points and small towns from jihadists.


    The war in Syria is taking into account the flavor of the national character of the Arabs and it is not worthwhile to expect from them GUEDERIAN tank wedges or an attack in the style of an equestrian army.
    In general, we gain patience and look forward to several more years of exhausting confrontation in this region of all against all.
  7. Ami du peuple
    Ami du peuple 16 January 2016 06: 58
    +6
    In Latakia province, government forces, with a tenacity worthy of better use, once again set out to storm the city of Salma ... Nevertheless, it would be naive to expect Salma's occupation in one to two days

    So this .. Salma was taken the day before yesterday. Or is the author not in the know? "With perseverance worthy of better application" - there, on the spot, the troops know better where and how to apply perseverance. Especially. there our military advisers are present - they will not advise badly.
  8. Asperr43
    Asperr43 16 January 2016 07: 07
    0
    Yes, Mlyn, business! All against everyone ?! No! Generally, a glomerulus.
  9. Valery 1966
    Valery 1966 16 January 2016 07: 07
    +4
    NOT only Turks help
  10. TVM - 75
    TVM - 75 16 January 2016 07: 20
    +4
    Previously, it was necessary to chop heads of this ISIS hydra, but it has so many parents and breadwinners that it was quite difficult to do. Well, now - calmly, for a long time, methodically.
    1. LÄRZ
      LÄRZ 16 January 2016 08: 22
      +4
      Quote: TVM - 75
      Well, now - calmly, for a long time, methodically.

      It's like a peat bog stew.
  11. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 16 January 2016 07: 30
    +2
    It has long been clear that while financial, material (weapons, equipment) assistance, ISIS will continue to conduct active hostilities. The fact that aid does not stop clearly indicates that it is beneficial to the West and Turkey with the monarchies of the Persian Gulf. Until it rumbles loudly in the United States there will be no sense. To date, only Russia with the Syrian army is actively fighting.
  12. Gray 43
    Gray 43 16 January 2016 07: 37
    +3
    As jihadists cling to the exit to the border, it is immediately clear where the "legs grow" from. The border will be closed - all the evil spirits will be bent, not all and not immediately, but the refugees will be able to return home
  13. parusnik
    parusnik 16 January 2016 07: 47
    +2
    In fact, despite the fact that the West is not satisfied with Turkey, they are helping terrorists through it ..
  14. Aleksander
    Aleksander 16 January 2016 07: 53
    +4
    The Syrian army makes extensive use of helicopter support, as well as barrel artillery, but gain a foothold in bare desert without any natural cover she fails.


    A strange excuse, but aren't the Ishilovites in the SAME conditions? And with full dominance in the air and art, rolling them out on a smooth field is like a dash! The point is clearly different .....
  15. polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 16 January 2016 08: 36
    0
    In general, despite the support, there are no serious successes so far and things are going "not shaky, not badly", but time is hurrying. Perhaps this is a tactical move: to show (suddenly it will finally reach Europe!) "Who is who", I mean the Arabian monarchies and Turkey.
    1. Cap.Morgan
      Cap.Morgan 16 January 2016 09: 50
      +1
      A major success is the strengthening of the position of government troops, and the war there may last for decades, as in Lebanon, for example.
    2. Pissarro
      Pissarro 16 January 2016 12: 37
      0
      why is time rushing? And whom?
  16. Papapg
    Papapg 16 January 2016 08: 58
    +2
    You just need to remember well how it all began, with active support for the opposition, the provision of finances and lethal weapons, and what happened was democracy. It is only necessary to unwind this tangle harshly and cruelly. People who took up arms and tried to kill, calmly shoot a person, watch his head cut off can understand only strength, not just strength, but cruel strength. The enemy must not be beaten, the enemy must be killed. One of the latest examples is the Chechen Republic. And Russia, as a direct participant, providing legal, official assistance has long been necessary to "test" all snipers, a sniper with experience is not just a sniper, but a combat unit. And it will be a pity if this does not happen.
    1. Cap.Morgan
      Cap.Morgan 16 January 2016 09: 59
      +4
      Then you have to clean them all.
      Physically clear space for another population.
      The enemy does not need to be beaten, the enemy must be killed.
      And what about their belt that they pound in the ass? They are just being killed. Only there are many of them due to demographic characteristics. The mentality of the people, the ideology of Islam, is a military religion.
      1. Tatyana
        Tatyana 16 January 2016 22: 34
        -1
        Cap.Morgan
        Well this is a MILITARY religion.

        Not weak and in the "bull's-eye" it says!
        It is a pity that Merkel pretends that she does not understand this, and that not all Russians correctly know about Islam in Russia and do not think about Islamic danger.
  17. 31rus
    31rus 16 January 2016 09: 13
    +2
    Dear, this is an "eternal" tangle of problems, it cannot be solved quickly, because everyone has different interests, even small tribes in Syria cannot find a common language, and for a long time, now the goal is terrorists, and everything else has to be raked up, now the EU is already sending a contingent one after another, but I just want to ask by what right?
    1. sa-ag
      sa-ag 16 January 2016 09: 42
      0
      Quote: 31rus
      Dear, this is an "eternal" tangle of problems, you cannot quickly solve

      Well, look at the Iraqi Kurds, they do not fight intensively with anyone, because they have an income from oil, they let oil flow to Turkey and coexist relatively peacefully with all interested parties. So it is with Syria, the war will stop there, when and if they put a gas pipeline from Qatar, which is opposed by Gazprom, another nuance in this regard - Iran announced recently) a week ago somewhere) about the construction of a gas pipeline to Europe (through Turkey), it turns out after all, what Gazprom fought so hard against
  18. Al_oriso
    Al_oriso 16 January 2016 09: 42
    +2
    Jihadists have nothing to lose, they understand that their days are numbered, so they fight to the last. It is unlikely that they will surrender without a fight, which means that they will have a complete, accurate, long sweep.
  19. podgornovea
    podgornovea 16 January 2016 09: 51
    +2
    Border, border, and again the border!
    Close it and the end of the Marleson ballet!
    Without weapons, ammunition, reinforcements and dough, they won’t get much war.
    The same thing happened in Afghanistan, all the supply across the border went.
    But so there are mountains and here almost the entire territory is flat.
  20. Nikolay71
    Nikolay71 16 January 2016 10: 11
    0
    See the old article. Salma really took the day before yesterday. Boris Rozhin was in detail. There is still a video with our general.
  21. Pvi1206
    Pvi1206 16 January 2016 10: 41
    +2
    EAST IS A DELICATE MATTER.
    The Americans made another mess, and the whole world has to disentangle it. The United States failed to directly eliminate Syrian President B. Assad. After that, they relied on ISIS. Turkey will pursue its goals in this conflict. Israel, as it were, has nothing to do with it. Although the inter-Arab conflict is beneficial only to him. The USA is only a club in the hands of the Zionists.
    1. Pissarro
      Pissarro 16 January 2016 12: 14
      +4
      Qatar, the Saudis and Turkey brewed porridge. The USA is just a club, not only in the hands of Zionists, but also Islamists, the case when the tail steers a dog. With Assad’s full connivance after the death of his tough father (who did not stand on ceremony with the Islamists) the Arabs' money raised what we have. It is beneficial for Israel to cut off the supply of the Shiite Hesbollah, because it does not particularly oppose the Sunni Islamists in Syria. Qatar and the Turks need a pipe. Iran and Russia do not need an Arab pipe. EU would not refuse from alternative pipes to Gazprom .When Russia and the Iranian pipe are not needed in Syria. By and large, America does not need anything from Syria, but all its allies in the region need help. In general, Syria is a unique place, the different interests of the mass of players come together at one point, and the situation is by and large stalemate .Only decisive military intervention can turn the tide, but not one player will dare to do it first, because it will immediately become extreme for everyone else. This war is long and this war is exhausting. First, the player himself will be blown away, and only then his influence in Syria will disappear. Ed ryzhki already bear everything, Saudi Arabia and Russia suffer from the oil war to lower prices, Iran and Hesbollah suffer significant losses in manpower, Turks in general are on the verge of civil war and impoverishment, the EU is choking on millions of refugees organized by Turkey and trying to pay off. America is suffering from demonstrative powerlessness, which is a shame for a world hegemon. Nevertheless, I think that in such situations we will break, but Victory will not be long and will cost us dearly. And many players will not survive the Syrian game at all
  22. VohaAhov
    VohaAhov 16 January 2016 12: 20
    +2
    The article is informative. Particularly successful was a photo collage with a tangle. For complete clarity, the map of military operations and the conquests of the Syrian army is lacking since last October.
  23. vv3
    vv3 16 January 2016 12: 30
    +6
    Once again, I propose to create support art bases with a rigid security perimeter. They are no different from airfields in Syria. Their task is to immediately suppress the enemy based on information from UAVs, AWACS aircraft, stationary information posts. Taking into account the small size of Syria and the radius of destruction of artillery means such as "Coalition", "Hurricane", etc., there are only 2-3 such support bases. This is not quite a ground operation. There is only one thing ... Opportunities for coordinating information assets and means of destruction in real time. It seems to me this is the weakest point of our tactical means. It is completely incomprehensible to me why this gap is not being closed. This is 10 times more important than the "Armata" and the T-50. Without this, operations, as in Syria, will last for a long time and unpredictably.
  24. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 16 January 2016 12: 31
    -1
    It can drag on for a very long time. In any case, you have to agree. Now just gain points (territory) to start negotiations. Assad’s absolute victory, in my opinion, is impossible there.
    1. Pissarro
      Pissarro 16 January 2016 12: 42
      +1
      Well, for example, it will not work out with Erdogan, he already went to the bank. For him, backing up in any form is the end
  25. cergey51046
    cergey51046 16 January 2016 14: 00
    0
    It is disgusting to read this nonsense. There are no brains to anticipate and no desire to prevent.
  26. Vladimir Postnikov
    Vladimir Postnikov 16 January 2016 16: 24
    +5
    This complication of the operation (supply of militants from Turkey) was known last October.
    The topic was discussed in the comments to the mediocre article "Russian-Syrian border" on the military-industrial complex (http://vpk-news.ru/articles/28385).
    Has anything changed?
    What does it mean to occupy the territory and not gain a foothold? Why?
    What does it mean that there are supply channels that are not blocked? Why?
    In Russia, in warehouses storing about 4 of thousands of D-30 guns (you can say decommissioned). Why at least a tenth of them are not in Syria?
    The enemy does not have normal artillery to conduct counter-battery warfare, and there is no aviation to destroy the enemy's artillery. D-30 in these conditions is "what the doctor ordered." Even if separate artillery pieces and mortars appear, there will also be work for the Russian / Syrian aviation and Syrian artillery. A massive supply of D-30 howitzers for the Syrians and a limited supply of self-propelled howitzers to cover them (the main purpose of which is counter-battery warfare, if any) could seriously change the balance of power. We have already understood that “it is pointless to chase partisans in cars, donkeys and bicycles in tanks across the desert”. They realized that it was also pointless on airplanes.
    Three months of no movement.
    Yes, these strong points in modern conditions can be created quickly, cheaply, reliably. The calculations will be safer than the calculations of self-propelled guns. The low cost and simplicity of the D-30 will allow you to quickly learn Syrian calculations.
    I'm not even saying that it is possible to adapt the D-30 for modern conditions of shooting at target coordinates, simplifying the calculations to primitive operations of combining a given parameter with a real one. These "attachments" do not even require changing the design of the implement.
    Why is no one moving?
    Spent a lot of money on an aircraft carrier. If it were not for the unique "greenhouse" conditions for the operation of Russian aviation in Syria, when it is allowed to operate there by other really strong "players", then this aircraft carrier would have been rotting for itself on the sly, posing no threat to anyone. But, here is lucky. Allowed to use this aircraft carrier. And where is he? What was so much effort and money spent on? Such a unique chance to somehow justify them is lost. So no!
    "Tahiti, Tahiti ... We have not been to any Tahiti. We are well fed here too."
  27. Crown
    Crown 16 January 2016 18: 58
    0
    It is necessary to block the supply of arms and militants from Turkey, otherwise it is a struggle with windmills
  28. vv3
    vv3 16 January 2016 19: 08
    0
    Our Army is not ready for local wars. This is illustrated by the example of Syria and, oddly enough, indirectly by the example of the DNI of the LPR. We do not know where the enemy is located. We do not have the means and algorithms to create an information field. And about using this information for ordinary there are no means of destruction in real time and there is no talk. We can only destroy stationary objects, and it takes days, sometimes hours at best, to make decisions. Why create ultramodern combat weapons if they can’t use them. Learn to find the enemy, or rather see him, cont rollo moving. Full zero in this regard ...
    1. Vladimir Postnikov
      Vladimir Postnikov 16 January 2016 19: 43
      +1
      You should not go to extremes.
  29. podgornovea
    podgornovea 16 January 2016 20: 52
    0
    And I repeat again!

    Border, border, and again the border!
    Close it and the end of the Marleson ballet!
    Without weapons, ammunition, reinforcements and dough, they won’t get much war.
    The same thing happened in Afghanistan, all the supply across the border went.
    But so there are mountains and here almost the entire territory is flat.


    Minus as you want!

    Until the border with Turkey is closed, there will be no "luck".

    So, comrades Syrians close their borders, "otherwise, good luck to you, you won't see!"

    And I will stand on this!
  30. Stilet
    Stilet 16 January 2016 21: 35
    0
    Much effort is spent on keeping gangs in "cauldrons" or in a semi-encirclement. The contact lines are too stretched. Slowly but inevitably, the Syrian army, with the help of our VKS, will still hold out ISIS. Advice to give a thankless job, and the situation in Syria is better than our advisers from the Ministry of Defense, none of us knows. However, it is clear that in order to close the border in northern Syria, it is necessary to free some of the forces of which are already small, and they, in turn, are shackled in the east and south of the country. You panic the parity of forces! This is where the slow progress comes from. If Iran had gathered courage and helped a massive offensive from the eastern direction towards the SA, then a turning point would have come on all fronts. It would be possible to regroup forces and tackle the borders closely.
  31. prostofily
    prostofily 16 January 2016 23: 30
    0
    And for what the peasant was mocked, to fight against all ushlepok, well, half did not work.
  32. atakan
    atakan 17 January 2016 05: 26
    0
    Quote: vv3
    supporting art bases.

    what is the likelihood that such an art base will not be bombed, well, at least the Turks or the Israelis and even the French?
  33. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 17 January 2016 12: 21
    0
    ISIS and other Nusras learned to fight at night under air strikes.
    They now transfer strength and attack at night.
    1. iouris
      iouris 17 January 2016 16: 17
      0
      Maybe the thing is that it is impossible to close the Syrian border with NATO, or Turkey?
  34. VSkilled
    VSkilled 17 January 2016 20: 20
    0
    Here at VO there was a good series of articles about mines.

    I wonder why not totally, "solid" - not to mine the border of Syria from Turkey?

    Strip, kilometers 5 ... 10.