Long-range aviation will receive new tankers

The new Il-96TZ tankers (based on the Il-96-400) will go into service with the Far aviationnewspaper reports MIC.

IL-96-400Т transport aircraft

“There were proposals to transfer the Il-96TZ to the Military Transport Aviation, but now it has been decided to transfer them to Long-Range Aviation,” said WTA Commander Viktor Benediktov.

In turn, the general director of JSC Aviation Complex. S.V. Ilyushin ”Sergey Velmozhkin explained that“ the contract with the Ministry of Defense has already been signed, but he has not yet passed the final stage ”.

“The contract is still at the stage of substantiating the use of the IL-96-400 as a basic tanker vehicle. We plan to conduct additional flights in order to prove the compatibility of our aircraft with Long-Range Aviation aircraft, ”he said.

The CEO noted that "IL-96TZ will be a" clean "tanker."

“We, of course, have an option with a lower placement of the tank, but the main option is a“ clean ”tanker with an upper placement of the tank. The new car wins quite a lot in terms of fuel efficiency on long-range lines. The machine is bigger and, accordingly, more opportunities, ”said Velmozhkin.

Comments

[Vladislav]

It will be with the Bears around the ball to fly!

[Tor5]

Good deal!

[Blondy]

Finally!!! Oh, what will be ...

[VOLCHOXURAL]

Quote: Vladislav

It will be with the Bears around the ball to fly!

And swans)
Should I give him some other name, an albatross for example?

[olegkrava]

Albatross, this is L-39. Chekhov’s cadet machine was once taught.

[Don]

The old man still serves faithfully and reliably. . True, they slowly began to replace them with their Yaks, but until the 20 of the year it will definitely serve.

[Denis Obukhov]

Finally, Russia is not only restoring its aviation industry and powerful flexible forces. Such work should be carried out systematically and very thoughtfully, without fuss and without delay. Then it will give a great result.

[aleksfill]

It would be nice for these handsome men to return to Aeroflot.

[samoletil18]

With 4 motors, only under state subsidies. But the country is in crisis.

[PHANTOM-AS]

Quote: samoletil18

With 4 motors, only under state subsidies. But the country is in crisis.

By the way, at a press conference, Putin was asked the question about resuming the production of IL-96, it’s a pity he left the answer. Meanwhile, there is something to talk about.
Last time we talked about why Russia needs IL-96 and why it needs to be produced, even if it will be worse than competitors.
Now I bring to your attention the options in which the IL-96 can successfully compete with modern Boeing and Airbus (even when the ruble returns to the pre-crisis level).
Read more here:
http://aviator.guru/blog/43518538516/Konkurentosposobnyie-variantyi-Il-96?tmd=1

[clidon]

What can he say? The answer that the narmass doesn't like is image makers do not recommend ...
IL-96 - a corpse that is supported only for the life of the plant. Moreover, the corpse is not new, but large and very respectable and sovereign. Which no one will remodel now - no one has such expensive toys, and even more so now there will be no money. Therefore, they will buy slowly, slowly, in order to maintain the team.

[PHANTOM-AS]

96th Ilyusha, quite a competitive product.
And here, of course, the question is about import substitution tales, if we can’t produce the finished goods in the proper volumes, then what kind of innovation can we talk about?
And whether we will have Wings of the Motherland in the future, this is a big question.

[clidon]

Ilyusha was not a competitive product before why would he suddenly (and for what money) suddenly become one in the future? And now they began to recognize this, although they were shy before.

Not well, if you want to believe in fairy tales, then why not? You can draw a dozen versions of these machines. You can write petitions and appeals ..

As for the wings, the path is already there and although it is not so interesting, but you have to go along it - this is the MC-21. This is despite the fact that it does not seem to me in pink. Like the PD-14.

[PHANTOM-AS]

And by what, in fact, parameters is the 96th not competitive?
On the MS-ke there are soooooooo many questions, I would like to lay out a correspondence with our colleague and his story about Irkut, but you know ethics .... He wants to lay it out himself.
And about the wings from Taganrog, also Temko interesting.
I also say that due to the finished 96th, you can try to stretch the aviation industry, although ...
What do we have today? IL-76? supper-supper-jet is even funny to consider and MS-ku is not flying yet ...

[avt]

Quote: PHANTOM-AS

What do we have today? IL-76? supper-supper-jet is even funny to consider and MS-ku is not flying yet ...

Whose flight has already been rescheduled

Flight tests of the promising Russian narrow-body aircraft MS-21-300 will begin closer to the end of 2016, Russian Industry and Trade Minister Denis Manturov said in an interview with TASS. Until now, it was reported that the first flight of the prototype of the new aircraft should be completed in the II quarter of next year.

According to Manturov, along with flight tests, the rollout of the MS-21 had to be postponed. Until recently, it was planned that it will take place before the end of 2015. Now it is assumed that the aircraft will be shown to the public in the middle of next year.

And his competitors in the market are ALREADY in the air ......

[clidon]

He eats a lot with his 4 engines, does not have a normal service base, the “board” is outdated on it, he is not popular in the world. Actually its sales speak for themselves.
Due to the aircraft in its current form, no stretching will work. As well as by pulling the Tu-204. And no one will invest in its radical modernization.

[dustycat]

In the world he is not popular just as reluctantly will be to lend his leasing as it has to be with Airbases and Boeings.
The "popularity" of airbuses and Boeings is maintained purely due to state support for their leasing.
Technically, the maintenance of IL96 is much more economical than Boeing and Airbus.
What Il96 lacked was reliable and economical engines.
But this question was solved by the support of the Perm and Rybinsk motors "which were ditched for the sake of support by orders from Zaporozhsky and Motorsich.
There is a huge niche of orders for freight transportation - the same Il76, An125, An225 are not without work, although the motors are the same.
There would be support for the modernization of engines and avionics for the Il96 and a sales market would be provided to him.
And now so far only in tankers. The market situation is not the same.
So at least it will be possible to save personnel and production until better times.

[Just BB]

MS-21 is 5000 km of 80-120 passengers.
IL-96 (today) 10 km to 000 passengers.
Different "berries" -
and which is characteristic: for Russia we need analogues from Yak-18t to An-124 - the country is big and you can’t build roads everywhere

[Mayday1981]

Putin did not shy away from the answer, but said the right thing — with the old IL-96 engines — is uncompetitive. And he said about the PD-14 family.

[clidon]

Of course. And on new it will not be. Even when they appear real.

[PHANTOM-AS]

Follow the link, everything is written there, copy-paste here does not make sense.

[clidon]

Can you explain better who should pay for this beauty? With a sequestration budget.

[sandrmur76]

So I look that attention is focused on the PD-14 engine. But there are in the NK-93 bins! Nothing is clear on it. It seems that they’re better than foreign ones

[Just BB]

So PD is a "promising engine", and NK is already in the "warehouse"
What a "perspective" with a promising one - they drank and drank, and then "either the donkey, or the sultan"
"Well, it didn't work out, but we tried."

[Orionvit]

The fact of the matter is that competitors from Boeing and Airbus buried it, saying tales about noise, inefficiency and so on. They introduced a ban on unilateral flights of IL-96. We know that everything that the West does in relation to Russia is always to its detriment, and the goals are always pursued not only economic, but also mainly political and ideological. A simple example. The West declared the IL-96 a bad plane, and in Russia there were quite a few followers who, without understanding anything in aviation, blindly repeat this conclusion as a mantra. The conclusion is, Listen to what the West says, and do the opposite. So what IL-96 to be.

[olegkrava]

Ours with 4 engines are more economical than boogie with 2. Checked.

[Orionvit]

Maybe I'm wrong, but as I recall the standard for long-haul passenger aircraft in the west, these are at least 3 engines. Recall the itorium with the TU-104 and its 2 engines, back in the fifties. It was necessary for Western buyers to make a modification of the TU-50 with 104 engines. When is it interesting that standards have changed? And now nothing, Airbus and Boeing fly with two across the ocean and nothing. Or can they?

[looker-on]

Dear Oleg, what is "checked"? Can I have a table or a link to the cost analysis? While there is no real data from a good source - "verified" is zero and zero.

[dustycat]

When they talk about the "gluttony" of Russian aircraft, they somehow forget that the route speed of Russian and imported aircraft is very different.
For example, the Tu134 nose is always "tattered about the clouds".
The same Tu154 at a cruising speed of a single-class airbus or Boeing burn less.
Rummage in the local archives - it was.
And what about the "volatility" of Tu204, which "keeps the echelon with the wind in the tail" and because of which it has problems during landing?
So you need to compare correctly.

[dustycat]

When they talk about the "gluttony" of Russian aircraft, they somehow forget that the route speed of Russian and imported aircraft is very different.
For example, the Tu134 nose is always "tattered about the clouds".
The same Tu154 at a cruising speed of a single-class airbus or Boeing burn less.
Rummage in the local archives - it was.
And what about the "volatility" of Tu204, which "keeps the echelon with the wind in the tail" and because of which it has problems during landing?
So you need to compare correctly.

[olegkrava]

Search the net and find that with almost the same fuel load after a flight from Russia, yes, as they are best called, well, I see! The airbus has almost zero, and ours has another 4 hours of flight. Something like this.

[Just BB]

And not "dumb" with two 12 hours in the air and sometimes half the time hanging over the water?
300 people on board!
Or for the sake of "shredded paper" everything is sideways ?!
Just don’t talk about "AB" and "Boeing" with two, they say they fly, - the owners do not fly on them, and "the Sheriff's Indians do not care about the problems!"
PS: V-747 has not been removed from operation yet

[dustycat]

The new PD14 will be attached, ironed and will come off without subsidies.
Maybe less will be needed.
And relatives yes, rubbish.

[dustycat]

The new PD14 will be attached, ironed and will come off without subsidies.
Maybe less will be needed.
And relatives yes, rubbish.

[olegkrava]

Ours with 4 engines are more economical than boogie with 2. Checked.

[valokordin]

Quote: aleksfill

It would be nice for these handsome men to return to Aeroflot.

But what about Poghosyan and Mandurov, what will happen to Boeing and watermelons. Just some sadness.

[newcomer]

great news. more such bright news. excellent car il96tz

[svd-xnumx]

great news. more such bright news. excellent car il96tz

Beautiful plane

[Arikkhab]

Handsome plane

[APASUS]

I might have missed something, but what is the IL-96-400 currently being manufactured in Russia?

[glasha3032]

For the Atlant-Soyuz company a long time ago one or two Ila (400 x) were made for trial (us?), But the company refused or went bankrupt and they were left out of business and now it seems like how they decided to put them into business.

[nov_tech.vrn]

I apologize for the plan of the year 15 ... The construction of two Il-96-300 aircraft under a contract with JSC UAC and the conversion of the IL-96-400 aircraft into a VPU version under a contract with IFC OJSC will continue. It is also planned to convert the IL-96-400 aircraft into the VVIP version according to the contract with UAC OJSC to the Ministry of Defense (RA-96102).
One of the priority areas of the production program of JSC "VASO" today is the program for the production of wide-body airliners Il-96. According to preliminary plans, by 2024, the plant should build and transfer to customers 14 IL-96 aircraft. Firm contracts were signed on the first 4 sides.

[Sling]

God forbid !!!

[Ami du peuple]

Quote: APASUS

I might have missed something, but what is the IL-96-400 currently being manufactured in Russia?

There is one in the cargo version. Voronezh airline "Polet" belongs. In the photo for the article - just it.

[Mayday1981]

I watched one of them - for several days stood on the platform in Nizhnevartovsk.

[donavi49]

From the availability they want to take. They are zero-handed refuseniks. And they want them.

[avt]

Quote: APASUS

I might have missed something, but what is the IL-96-400 currently being manufactured in Russia?

Quote: Ami du peuple

There is one in the cargo version. Voronezh airline "Polet" belongs.

A total of four such aircraft were built, three of them were operated until 2013 at the Polet airline, which ceased operations.

. Two of the existing aircraft of this type are being converted into an IL-96-400VPU air control center, the first is ready. Two more aircraft will be converted into Il-96-400TZ tankers.

As for the passenger, then

The Ilyushin company plans to develop a new passenger modification of the Il-96 wide-body aircraft. “We are coming out with an initiative proposal to launch a passenger aircraft on the basis of the Il-96-400,” said the general director of the enterprise Sergey Velmozhkin on January 13.

Well

Ilyushin representatives say that this four-engine aircraft will be on a par with its western counterparts in terms of fuel efficiency. It will be possible to make a twin-engine vehicle out of the Il-96 if an engine with a thrust of 32–35 tons is developed in Russia, the company stressed.

[Ami du peuple]

Quote: avt

A total of four such aircraft were built, three of them were operated until 2013 at the Polet airline, which ceased operations.

Well, yes, it seems like at the end of 2014, Polet really lacked a flight certificate, but these summer, the boards in their proprietary paintwork took off and landed very well above my dacha

[family tree]

Quote: avt

avt

Thank you for the explanatory explanation
And I’ve already thought of mnu re ..., this, the forerunner of a meeting with affectionate, polar, full, furry. Passenger and presidential kerosene carries. Although a lot will fit

[avt]

Quote: perepilka

And I’ve already thought of mnu re ..., this, the forerunner of a meeting with affectionate, polar, full, furry.

Yes, to health, but the passenger campaign is in question - there is no money.

For the passenger version, some components of the IL-96-400 will be modernized, but the aircraft will retain the current PS-90 engines. At the same time, the issue of using new PD-14 engines on this modification is being considered,

Well, in the light of the enthusiastic statements of GDP towards the 14th engine creators who created it.

[PHANTOM-AS]

Quote: avt

Well, in the light of the enthusiastic statements of GDP towards the 14th engine creators who created it.

Here is such a car

[Mihalich17]

I repeat!
With reading such news, I understand that I’m ready for years to hunch back in the garden and eat only what I can grow, but the army should be dressed, fed, trained, equipped and sent to inspire everyone who shows at least the slightest signs of maloperation.

[vlad66]

Quote: Mihalich17

I repeat!
With reading such news, I understand that I’m ready for years to hunch back in the garden and eat only what I can grow, but the army should be dressed, fed, trained, equipped and sent to inspire everyone who shows at least the slightest signs of maloperation.

Alexander! I completely agree with you, and I’ll add that now is not the time for the gardens, but at the factories we are plowing as usual, and some of them all say that everything is standing, it’s not true. And in the spring we’ll go to the garden.

[NEXUS]

Quote: Mihalich17

I repeat!
With reading such news, I understand that I’m ready for years to hunch back in the garden and eat only what I can grow, but the army should be dressed, fed, trained, equipped and sent to inspire everyone who shows at least the slightest signs of maloperation.

At the moment, our military-industrial complex is actively breaking ties with Antonov’s design bureau, trying to switch to everything domestic, so that there would be no further problems. And the transport operator is also developing Ilyushin’s design bureau in order to replace Ruslana.

[Kite]

Quote: NEXUS

At the moment, our defense industry vomits heavily with Antonov Design Bureau

- an interesting interpretation! And Antonov’s design bureau clings with what it can only?
But are Ruslans not doing in Ulyanovsk?

[NEXUS]

Quote: Kite

- an interesting interpretation! And Antonov’s design bureau clings with what it can only?

And where are the components for the same Ruslans? M. I’m talking about, dear, that our aviation industry is trying to switch to everything domestic, so as not to depend on anyone. This is a kind of aviation sovereignty, if you like.

[avt]

Quote: Kite

But are Ruslans not doing in Ulyanovsk?

Quote: NEXUS

I’m talking about, my dear, that our aviation industry is trying to switch to everything domestic, so as not to depend on anyone. This is a kind of aviation sovereignty, if you like.

As for the An-124, it seems that the main problem is in engines with Motor Sich, I heard that the competitor was NK-92 in the USSR with Tu-160, but now it seems like NK-93, but .... in short, there is no engine.

[NEXUS]

Quote: avt

As for the An-124, it seems that the main problem is in engines with Motor Sich, I heard that the competitor was NK-92 in the USSR with Tu-160, but now it seems like NK-93, but .... in short, there is no engine.

According to TU-160M, there really are problems with the engine ...

“In Soviet times, nearly 100 enterprises produced engine components,” he said. - Now half of them are located outside the territory of Russia or have not existed for a long time. Therefore, we are forced to master the production of some components and assemblies ourselves. For example, now we are setting up the most complex production of combustion chambers - until recently, they were made by the Samara "Metallist", which has now refused to sign a contract for these chambers.

According to him, the plant has already invested almost 500 million rubles in the purchase of new equipment necessary for the production of parts for engines. This money was received in due time as an advance payment for the overhaul of engines. Moreover, the bulk of the money was given to the plant in the form of a state loan, which has yet to be repaid.

And on IL-96 the next info ...

The IL-96-400T aircraft is a cargo modification of the IL-96-300, developed taking into account the wishes of the airlines and corresponding to all modern domestic and world requirements. The fuselage length of the Il-96-400T is increased by 9,6 m compared to the Il-96-300 base aircraft. It installed domestic equipment, including four PS-90A1 turbofan engines with a thrust of 17,4 tons each.

[Just BB]

For example, now we are setting up the most complicated production of combustion chambers - until recently, they made

Samara "Metalist"

who now refused to sign a contract for these cameras.

"Tovarisch" probably wanted to say not Metalist (guys mainly engaged in aviation weapons at one time), and "Metallurgist" - these are really metal for aviation and space poured.
But alas, by a strange coincidence, this plant with "all the giblets" (documentation and technology) belongs to AMERICAN ALCOA - will they do combustion chambers for you - AHA.
Rental for beer cans

[Don]

As life shows, the vast majority of residents of villages and villages, as well as small and medium-sized cities agree with you, but in big cities, citizens are more concerned about the content of their own pockets, rather than the security of the state.

[Egevich]

- Good, oh dear ...
I'm not god ...
- all the same, good ...

[Primus pilus]

TTX at least showed. Why is it better than IL 78.

[jaguar]

I will not hit hard on the topic, but on the main characteristics .... higher cruising speed, flight range and 35% more fuel on board.

[tol100v]

Quote: jaguar

I will not hit hard on the topic but

BUT, apparently they decided at the top and the IL company (Voronezh) to allocate some funds. It is impossible to survive on "Presidential" aircraft alone. And most likely it is necessary. It was easy to destroy the Aviation Complex, but it is difficult to recreate now, but it became the first necessity!

[Arikkhab]

And probably to save experience in the construction of wide-body aircraft

[Sukhoi]

A similar question.
Why, then, not to flush some Il-78MD-90A?

[Fregate]

Quote: Sukhoi

A similar question.
Why, then, not to flush some Il-78MD-90A?

Yes, they will probably be based on the IL-76 TK, only for YES they will be based on the 96th. YES fly far and take a lot of fuel on board, and for them it will be on the basis of the 96th, and for fighters, front-line bombers such as some IL-78 MD-90A.

[Knight Rider]

Quote: Sukhoi

A similar question.
Why, then, not to flush some Il-78MD-90A?

Already "sawing" IL-78M-90A at Aviastar This year they will "raise" the first, and by the end of the year, maybe the second. Plus a couple of new IL-76MD-90A transports (at least)
In the photo, the extreme board (01-08) transferred by the BTA under the "herringbone"

[Alexey RA]

The base IL-96-400T has a flight range with a maximum payload of 58 tons - 10000 km.
The IL-76MD-90A has a flight range with a load of 60 tons - 4000 km.
Nice difference, huh?

The United States also has 2 types of tankers - the medium KC-135 based on the Boeing 367-80 (prototype Boeing 707) and the large KC-10 based on the McDonnell Douglas DC-10.

[Arikkhab]

Strategic and Tactical TK

[Iline]

Quote: Primus Pilus

TTX at least showed. Why is it better than IL 78.

The fact that the IL-78 was released in Tashkent and they are already very many years old. Yes, and one regiment of aircraft - refueling in Diaghilevo for the needs of even YES is not enough. Not to mention the needs of the Air Force (ugh, I’m not getting used to VKS).

[red_october]

Well done, all important! Each combat unit matters, the faster - the better.

Moreover, ready-made aircraft, there is no need to design / build

[Mikhail Krapivin]

Well, it's some kind of holiday! Ships are being modernized, tankers are being bought! Keep it up!:)

[mitrich]

Connoisseurs, announce the entire list: how many of these birds can be made in the next year or two? Not even necessary for YES, but in general. I hope not one more, to this one that is in the photo ...

[tol100v]

Quote: mitrich

a year or two?

No one! Unfortunately!

[emercom1979]

If the order is, I think VASO will master how much is needed. Not all the slipways were cut and not all specialists were dispersed from production.

[nov_tech.vrn]

not all specialists were dispersed, but many, many tried to kill the Poghosyan plant

[Gormenghast]

It's good when something real is done. This is not news from the category "Ukrainians unfurled the world's largest flag"

[Hauptam]

And how to unify the fleet? IL 76 is the basic machine for many types of vehicles. Training l / s is easier and those. Maintenance of the same type of equipment is simpler and cheaper.

[emercom1979]

And who said that the IL family is fundamentally different in maintenance.

[v.yegorov]

They make large domestic aircraft - it’s already good, then the aircraft industry
lives and develops. And there you look at your own airliners, 100%
our, live, not all superjets to be added.

[gergi]

This will dramatically increase the possibilities of YES. glad.

[samoletil18]

Quote: gergi

This will dramatically increase the possibilities of YES. glad.

Especially when restoring the air-to-air refueling system on the Tu-22M3.

[Primus pilus]

Quote: Mikhail Krapivin

Well, it's some kind of holiday! Ships are being modernized, tankers are being bought! Keep it up!:)

It should not be festive but everyday.

[FAM]

Quote: Denis Obukhov

Finally, Russia is not only restoring its aviation industry and powerful flexible forces.

While Gaddafi did not tear something, our rulers did not understand what awaited them. And now they are ready to fight for themselves.

[Pate]

And where will the IL-78 and IL-78M go?

[stonks]

Connoisseurs!
Who will explain what is the "top" and "bottom" location of the tanks?

[jaguar]

There is no such arrangement on the plane. It's kind of simpler ... slang (the location of the neck for refueling) .. for example, from the bottom or from the top of the wing

[Arikkhab]

The lower tanks under the floor with the ability to use the aircraft as well as a cargo or for transporting l / s, and the upper tanks in the cargo compartment and with conversion to a truck is a problem

[stonks]

Jaguar, Arik, thanks!

[Just BB]

and with conversion to a truck a problem

And why?
I can imagine what will happen to the fuel equipment if it is installed back and forth a couple of times in aerodrome conditions (roughly: pull two railway tanks from an airplane, and then install them to transport a couple of boxes of some junk )

[Just BB]

Not the "experts", but the "mageners" you need to ask

[aba]

But how beautiful is that ?! So it will fly well!;)

[Primus pilus]

That would be to launch a tanker on the basis of AN 70.

[marshes]

Quote: Primus Pilus

That would be to launch a tanker on the basis of AN 70.

Che for the base? Turboprop?
It would be better to give birth to the replacement of the AN-12.

[Just BB]

Che for the base? Turboprop?

What does not suit theater?
Him records speeds do not set, but by range - easily!

[Just BB]

An - this is history! - Just study!

[GeorgeSev85]

Quote: Vladislav

It will be with the Bears around the ball to fly!

And with Swans))

[Victor1]

I would like the IL96 to be reanimated for civil aviation, an excellent aircraft.

[Hitrovan07]

I remember how a government official (Deputy Prime Minister) stated that Russia does not need wide-body aircraft.

[4ekist]

Quote: Primus Pilus

TTX at least showed. Why is it better than IL 78.

Better that it flies higher, further, faster. In conjunction with the Tu-160 will blend well in the western hemisphere.

[Just BB]

combine in the western hemisphere.

I advise you to watch the film "Case Squared 36-80"
This is me about how the "adversary" relates to such an action.
So, by the way ... Refueling is carried out only over its territory, in the area covered by air defense. And you don’t have to go far, because the take-off weight is regulated by the fuel supply in favor of the payload.
We fill up less, "more bombs", take off, fill up full tanks and "alga!"
"Legs, ... Wings! The main thing is x ..." kerosene supply!

[Stoler]

I do not know. Vaso is still idle.

[Barakuda]

GDP at least flies on IL-96, maybe I'm behind the times, so correct. And he said that he would fly only on Russian planes.

[31rus]

Dear, alas, they declare a lot, but they do little, for example, the railway continues to "quietly" crush and try, although the example of the fleet and aviation has already shown that this is a crime, it will come, but it will be too late

[Don]

Well, before our leaders also drove domestic cars, but now the supreme one - for some reason, on a gelding. I mean, of course, Il-96go will be enough for Putin, and the subsequent presidents will fly what if they finally turn off the production of the only domestic long-range aircraft, the question.

[atamankko]

Big ship - long range.

[pv1005]

"The contract with the Ministry of Defense has already been signed, but he has not yet entered the final stage."

“The contract is still at the stage of substantiating the use of IL-96-400 as a base tanker machine. We plan to conduct additional flights to prove the compatibility of our aircraft with long-range aircraft

But:
- has he not yet entered the final stage ???
- the contract is still at the stage of substantiation of the use of IL-96 ... ???
- We plan to conduct additional flights to prove ... ???
Explain to the "stupid", how they have not yet substantiated, have not yet proved, but the supply contract has already been signed ??? Aren't they too contradictory BUTs? Well, I don't understand that.
I will be very glad if I am mistaken.

[pvv113]

The General Director noted that "Il-96TZ will be a" clean "tanker"

Today, the main refueling tank in the DA is IL-78. He has three fueling points. If necessary, the IL-78 was converted into a transport version. I often happened to fly on the IL-78, than on the IL-76. Beautiful car!
On the photo: IL-78 in Diaghilevo near Ryazan

[family tree]

Beautifully standing. And the photograph, from which airplane was taken?
Although, what's the difference. Happy New Year, boyar!

[Tra-ta-ta]

..just add water...
1989-th, the end of the year .. Flight: Lima-Havana-Gander-Shannon-Moscow.
We fly to Gander on the 86 at night (Newfoundland) ..; a terrible storm with a lateral direction to the runway. The airport is closed for landing and departure (but fuel is already running out).
The commander lands the plane in Russian, (the tires of the landing gear screech, confidently withstanding the lateral loads of the trough overloaded by the fishermen .. ((and we loaded them in full, with fish products)), and calmly announces: -Comrades, due to difficult weather conditions, we we can’t get out of the plane and get food to Shannon .; only kerosene. Stewardesses will share with you NZ.
We saw through the windows as the "detained" passengers at the airport met and saw us off at the windows.
There was no limit to pride .. We worshiped Cap and Constructor ..!
4 hours before Shannon, the smart stewardess spoiled us ...!
И it there was only a prototype of 96 ...

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Although the 69th on ava is enough for me. Happy trick