In the defense industry began testing multicopter equipped with grenade launchers

In the "United Instrument-Making Corporation" (part of Rostec), they began to test the first samples of shock copters armed with grenade launchers, reports TASS message of the representative of the enterprise.

Archival photo.

“Testing copters have already begun. They are held under conditions as close as possible to the fighting, ”said the representative of the military-industrial complex.

According to him, "Drones are subjected to various tests: they are fired from an automatic weapons from the ground, to test for survivability, they are trying to “land” using various means of electronic warfare ”.

"And the copters show themselves very well," said the source. “But it’s too early to talk about the end of tests.”

Earlier, the general director of the defense industry, Alexander Yakunin, told the agency about the creation of several types of UAVs for various tasks.

“We have already created samples of a copter scout, an observer-spotter of fire, a shock and a cargo copter. They can offline monitor objects and perform special maneuvers during the shelling, which makes them practically invulnerable to small arms, ”said the general director.

Comments

[Primus pilus]

Very interesting.

[Denis Obukhov]

Then the tests must be transferred to Syria. We need to check how you can conduct a ground operation against terrorists using military robots.

[Tor5]

Right! Testing finally - in Syria!

[Vorobey-1]

Well done, maybe we’ll reach this level:

[Nick]

Quote: Denis Obukhov

Then the tests must be transferred to Syria. We need to check how you can conduct a ground operation against terrorists using military robots.

So already ... In nete there was infa that Russia for the first time in the world used combat robots when taking altitude in Latakia.
“For the first time in the world, the Russian Armed Forces carried out an attack on the fortified area of ​​militants with combat robots. In the province of Latakia, the army units of the Syrian army, with the support of Russian paratroopers and Russian combat robots, took the strategic height of 754,5, the Siriator Tower.

[KAV]

This is already serious. Well done! I was at Interpolitech in 2015, I saw there interesting models of copters, for various tasks. Really, ours know how to do when necessary!

[UREC]

Yes, God did not create man, but the devil. How many brains are working around the world and the money is spent to create tools for killing their own kind.

[KAV]

Correction He did not create only some of them, but he devoured it, the devil ... Having promised endless nishtyaks and immortality. Here they are, these nits, all the time and try to capture someone else's, and with resistance - to kill. But, substituting the second cheek for a second blow with a hand is a direct path to extinction, and this commandment is sometimes interpreted incorrectly. Therefore, in some cases, these tools are primarily a means of protection and survival, and not a means of destroying their own kind.

And now, the two most prominent representatives of those absorbed by the devil and absorbing someone else's good (and maybe the sons of the devil):

[Rom14]

Well, funny faces (!), I don’t believe that these are people ???

[Rom14]

Well, funny faces (!), I don’t believe that these are people ???

[rati]

One must struggle with another's appetite for wealth, otherwise they will devour it. The armada has already been assembled, but for now it’s scary to go to Russia for the third time.

[Nick]

Quote: UREC

Yes, God did not create man, but the devil. How many brains are working around the world and the money is spent to create tools for killing their own kind.

Do not blaspheme.

[dr.star75]

I would still take a look ... And it's so cool.

[RUSS]

Quote: dr.star75

I would still take a look ... And it's so cool.

Amerikos hitched a machine gun to the copter
https://youtu.be/SNPJMk2fgJU

[MolGro]

recoil is somehow different) border and gun
)

[KVIRTU]

Yeah .
"When testing the GP-25 in the troops, another unpleasant recoil action was revealed - when firing from a grenade launcher the receiver cover fell off machine, held, as is known, by the head of the return spring rod ".
And this is just "Bonfire".
Hopefully, the grenade here is reactive, with almost no recoil.

[Sorokin]

But it was personally pawed 1988 but only after the 2nd shot. And even after the box is reshooted after the first GP shot at the oar with plastic.

[Alexdark]

Famous dude, does montages. This is just a graphic)

[opus]

Quote: dr.star75

I would still have a look at the photo.

"Raven-700" (pictured with fire bombs)

Since 2007, this device has been transported to exhibitions, hanging an automatic machine on it, the grenade launcherthen a hydraulic breaker.

Although this is not a "copter", but it is said

"Conventional serial hand grenade launchers and flamethrowers are used as payloads on copters."

On the trifle shown below, "ordinary serial hand grenade launchers" cannot be put

(TK "star" shows this)

(TASS shows this)

[Dmitry Toderes]

Here is the copter that opus mentioned is garbage at all - you just look at it - the camera is civil! Yes, and probably Chinese. This is not a copter, this is baby talk. Here is that drone-helicopter that the very first one is even more or less decent - at least it can be seen that it was not created from Chinese consumer goods.

PS The company logo is visible on the camera. Is this advertising for Korean (or Japanese) firms? TASS is not ashamed to show it - I can assemble such a copter myself. But what about import substitution? - After all, you need to develop your own high-quality digital cameras ourselves, but only that sharashka (I can't call this sharashka KB) that "developed" this "Russian" miracle copter simply laziness. It's easier to buy all the parts from your local radio market.

[ded100]

A very useful thing in the army, we hope that the tests will be successful and our army will receive them in sufficient quantities!

[Dr. Bormental]

Quadcopter is how many screws? quadra -4, hecto-6. Tricks ..don't give out military secrets

[Rader]

Quadcopter is how many screws?

MUCH is said - means LOT of these screws, the rest is not supposed to know! They themselves said: military secret.
I am more interested not in the number of screws, but in the mass and dimensions of this device, and what kind of grenade launcher they used to attach the same interesting (a normal grenade launcher, or something like a "drill"?). Well, a drone - an artillery fire spotter - is no doubt a useful thing.

[tol100v]

Quote: Dr. Bormental

Quadcopter is how many screws? quadra -4, hecto-6. Tricks ..don't give out military secrets

Multi? OUR warrant officer will answer: to x ..! And he won’t give out military secrets! And the fact that our industry is doing everything possible to equip our army is a low bow and gratitude!

[Aleksey_K]

Quote: Dr. Bormental

Quadcopter is how many screws? quadra -4, hecto-6. Tricks ..don't give out military secrets

This is probably not a secret, since there are already photos in the media.

[Asadullah]

This is probably not a secret, since there are already photos in the media.

This secret is already twenty years old. And ten years, this is being traded all over the Internet. The secret is that it doesn’t force this thing to be planted on the balcony by an advanced eighth grader, which discovers the target and the golden ratio - the mass of batteries with a payload. And then, such a secret is not very secret, let's call it the cunning of a locksmith.

[Monos]

Such a platform does not seem to me suitable for a grenade launcher. Although ... If you put gyroscopes ...

[Haettenschweiler]

Quote: Monos

Such a platform does not seem to me suitable for a grenade launcher. Although ... If you put gyroscopes ...

- It also seems to me that a full-fledged rocket-propelled grenade launcher after the first shot will throw the drone far back, and well, if it doesn’t stick it into the ground, due to loss of control. However, it all depends on the mass of the drone. These guys could take some old MI-8 by the chassis and pervert over it.

UPD: looked at the link of comrade Alexei, http://rusvesna.su/news/1451020270, there is a photo of the drone. No MI-8 and other derivatives of the gloomy Soviet genius.

[APASUS]

Quote: Haettenschweiler

It also seems to me that a full-fledged rocket-propelled grenade launcher, after the first shot, will throw the drone far back, and well, if it does not stick it into the ground, due to loss of control. However, it all depends on the mass of the drone. These guys could take some old MI-8 by the chassis and pervert over it.

This is when using a standard grenade launcher, but what if the grenade launcher and sighting system are separated? In this case, the rocket does not have to be fastened dead to the quadrocopter, it may well start after separation from the supporting structure (reset and delay of 1 sec).
The whole problem of such UAVs and robotic systems is that you have to adapt weapons planned and made for human use.

[Asadullah]

In this case, the rocket does not have to be fastened dead to the quadrocopter, it may well start after separation from the supporting structure (reset and delay of 1 sec).

I will add that b \ h can be completely different. From a trivial lighter to ..., but the fact is that the carrying capacity of this device is extremely small, the weight per kg already requires internal combustion engines. Hence the word "grenade launcher", deciphered in a softer form, could be called a grenade launcher. Which will simply release the maximum payload from above. A hundred such objects can be considered as a serious combat unit, connected to control by one operator, with very advanced communication software.

[alexng]

Most likely, everything will be according to the principle of "Satan of the pipe" Although I am not an expert in these matters, if they started this device and are testing a system for counteracting external interference and destruction from small arms, then the issue of recoil and stabilization after the shot has already been resolved. I think, most likely, the container first unfastens from the X-copter and then the container itself fires a grenade. Yes, and the grenade itself or the container, I think, is also stuffed with a homing system with duplicate escort from the copter. This is how I would solve this question.

[Dr. Bormental]

Gyroscopes now in children's low-budget helicopters even stand on radio control ...

[Sorokin]

And they will be delivered, not a bomber jacket. Most likely designed for GP

[Mister22408]

Tape feed GP? Do you know the damage radius of VOG?

[Mister22408]

And if you stick an 18th-century mortar, there will be no price. There is stabilization on gyroscopes (OG). Would put a couple of small-caliber URS with VVPM instead of a piece of iron.

[marshes]

If only they would draw a diagram. And what will be armed with GPs?
Better multicopter with a mine, cumulative, made against the tanks. I sat on the tower and that’s it.

[Sorokin]

Problematic. From a height of 1-2 meters to plant in the bushes for a more fun purpose. And flew away. The money however is intact.

[marshes]

Quote: Sorokin

Problematic.

We'll see how it goes The Germans had a cumulative mine in WW2, Hafthohlladung 3 (HHL 3, Haft - H3)

[Haettenschweiler]

- Very little information. Russian UAVs are Israeli (or American) toys. Domestic ones were also being developed, there was even a rumor that an extra-heavy UAV based on the T-50 would be created. How it ended - I do not know, complete silence on the air regarding his fate. All publications switched to the T-14. Here in connection with this is curiosity: who produced these UAVs? Kaike samples were taken for production? Who supplied the electronic stuffing of the toy? In fact, this short note gives an order of magnitude more questions than answers.

[WUA 518]

http://tvzvezda.ru/news/vstrane_i_mire/content/201512221303-u16j.htm

Specialists of the United Instrument-Making Corporation have created multicopter models armed with grenade launchers and flamethrowers.

[NEXUS]

Quote: WUA 518

http://tvzvezda.ru/news/vstrane_i_mire/content/201512221303-u16j.htm

Specialists of the United Instrument-Making Corporation have created multicopter models armed with grenade launchers and flamethrowers.

Sasha, welcome, friend
Is such a bee visible on radars? Or does such a fly fly low, buzz quietly?
By the way, Sashok, I was looking for information on our drummer up to 20 tons ... something our "uncle Vasya" is working quietly, and nowhere is gu-gu. But once the USSR was the first to use the UAV. "Flight" (TU- 143) and "Korshun" (TU-300) are still in service, if sclerosis does not change me.
Regards, friend.

[flSergius]

I will not argue about the share of domestic in domestic UAVs, but as for the unmanned T-50 I will say: first you need to bring the manned to mind so that there is at least a small series in the army, and not 2 prototypes in the design bureau. Then we can talk about all sorts of gadgets. But this does not prevent active development on paper and testing of individual systems.

[Dmitry Toderes]

The T-50 has already 17 flight prototypes and 5 prototypes for ground tests.

[Same lech]

“Already created samples of the scout copter, observer spotter fire, shock and cargo copters. They can autonomously monitor objects and perform special maneuvers when fired, which makes them virtually invulnerable to small arms.
Conventional serial hand grenade launchers and flamethrowers are used as payloads on copters, ”the agency’s interlocutor said.

http://rusvesna.su/news/1451020270

Video to the studio ...

Aircraft with full combat load ... it's not a tsetse fly.
Nobody has yet repealed the laws of physics, and I can’t believe in the invulnerability of quadrocopters until I see the evidence.

[WUA 518]

Quote: The same LYOKHA

Video to the studio ...

[Extraneous]

Six months ago, I saw the video seems to be "military acceptance" on YouTube. A multicopter developed for special purpose vehicles. The gun is attached, it seems Glock, I'm not sure. old age problems with memory. Positioning and guidance are stabilized by a gyroscope. shooting singles. recoil is compensated by computer control of the engines. remote control. in case of loss of connection - automatic return of the device to the base.
Shown is the firing of a copter from a Makar. The reaction to single shots is instant - moving aside while maintaining the aiming point. A burst from a machine gun - a broken trajectory with a change in heights, in short - "St. Vitus's dance". Getting in is very difficult. But there is a limitation in height, below which the device no longer has time to react, in my opinion - about 30 meters.

[flSergius]

Look, this is the same news in Russian spring, where drones are equipped with grenade launchers and flamethrowers. http://rusvesna.su/news/1452697253
And how is a flamethrower on an aircraft? Obviously not jet. Reactive (bumblebee, varna) or even a black spot?

[31rus]

Dear, it is completely possible that under the concept of a grenade launcher, a flamethrower, not what you imagine, it is possible that the aircraft is only a conditionally copter, there is no need to rush to conclusions

[Dr. Bormental]

It’s fun to let such a thing into the boys ... I would love to be pampered ... and they also say it’s bad to serve in the army

[Same lech]

http://geektimes.ru/post/257244/

Here you are for the development of creative abilities.

And what only people do not come up with ... truly there is no limit to the imagination of man.

[dauria]

It’s fun to let such a thing into the boys

But the adult "boys" and indulge in nonsense ...
Seriously weapons on an electric fly swatter should not be considered. Up to 1 kW, an electric motor with a lithium battery still competes with the internal combustion engine according to the power-mass-duration criterion. Well, let them be 4 or 8 is a maximum of 10 kg of take-off (and not useful) weight. And if the scout, on the contrary, is smaller, quieter and more inconspicuous, so it will be a wind toy. A simpler disposable projectile with a parachute.

[Mikhail Krapivin]

Nice one. So you sit, don’t touch anyone, and then a grenade flies on your head from above ... :)

[Hey]

The militias in Dombas did just that. They put a grenade into a glass cup, pulled out a check and adapted the glass to the drone and sent it on the road. The glass held the trigger. After the reset, the glass broke, the lever was released ... an explosion. The accuracy and efficiency of course were not very, but it worked specifically on the nerves.

[flSergius]

That's to prevent this, you need to pay attention to your wife, just touch. And do not sit in the evenings in

[Faust]

What grenades?

Most likely, the power of bestowal is important here. Interestingly, the grenade from the grenade launcher is strongly given?

[flSergius]

I saw a video with an American armed quadrocopter. There they made a maaalenky 4-barrel recoilless rifle caliber. There is no return.
I can’t find the proof - it was a long time ago.

[Aleksey_K]

Quote: flSergius

There they made a small 4 four-barrel recoilless rifle caliber. There is no return.

There is always a rollback. The word "recoilless" only means that the "gun" barrel does not roll away separately from the "gun". The entire "gun" together with the "gun" barrel does the rollback.

[Undermined ustoev]

I want, really want to make them! No, at least to experience. But alas, my train left at the stage of choosing its engineering specialization. So sorrow. However, it does not hurt these people to sincerely shake hands in case of personal acquaintance.

[marshes]

Quote: Undermining the Foundations

I want, really want to make them! No, at least to experience

What's the problem?
The Chinese can provide everyone. You can buy on ALI through the Internet.
Long-term connections, by the Chinese, acclaimed. The most decent from Hong Kong and Shanghai and the rest are scoundrels.

[Mihalich17]

Reading such articles, I understand that I’m ready for years to hunch back in the garden and eat only what I can grow, but the army should be dressed, fed, trained, equipped and sent to inspire everyone who shows at least the slightest signs of maloperation.

[vobels]

Quote: Mikhail Krapivin

Nice one. So you sit, don’t touch anyone, and then a grenade flies on your head from above ... :)

Well, if you don’t touch, then maybe it won’t fly. And if, then, yes.

[Undermined ustoev]

Quote: marshes

Quote: Undermining the Foundations

I want, really want to make them! No, at least to experience

What's the problem?

In the Chinese. I want to work in the defense industry, to do this professionally, and not in my backyard. But, unfortunately, my once deep knowledge of electrical engineering and electronics is forgotten as unnecessary. In the current field of activity is quite superficial. For a hobby, in addition to stuffing the minuses here, I have a graphic tablet and a classic six-string Leningrad still produced.

[marshes]

Quote: Undermining the Foundations

In the Chinese. I want to work in the defense industry, to do this professionally, and not in my backyard.

The most interesting thing is that in the backyard you can make money, tenge
Producing not fancy stuff. And then move on the "miracle of the world car industry", but you won't earn money for an apartment, not those times, and prices. But to eat caviar, I prefer red-black, rye, bread-butter-vodka-Talka, it's strange but the Russian Federation, although there is our KZ, not bad, but it's BESH sweat.
And so a video clip, random. China is something ...

[APASUS]

Quote: marshes

The most interesting thing is that in the backyard you can make money, tenge

I will support your thought, but the example you have chosen is not entirely successful.
If you find someone who will buy these horses 100 pieces a month, then it makes sense to invest money initially, and we will talk about real money 10-20 pieces of American rubles.

[evgeny1979]

Such innovations are very encouraging, the main thing is that the costs are justified, and if it’s not expensive too, it’s excellent !!!

[a.hamster55]

So nowhere is it written that a rocket launcher! Maybe he just folds the hand! Like F-1 without a ring in a faceted glass

[Denis Obukhov]

Soon, the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation will make films about real battles involving drones, guided vehicles, ...

[lexx2038]

Why argue, our domestic engineers, people are literate, and we have always gotten great machines, it all depends on those who set the task. They will say to buzz and shoot - ours will do it, maybe they will not paint it as beautifully as that of the ndos, but I am sure that it will shoot better and cheaper. As it is now in Syria, a new specialized computing subsystem (SVP-24) allows old unguided munitions from a height of 6000 meters to fall into the very "hole" - cheap and cheerful. And at the n! Ndos it is expensive, and everything goes to hospitals, then to weddings.

[kunstkammer]

great news! I recently proposed such an option for using quadrocopters.
For those in doubt, I can tell you that there are modern "small" devices on sale that can carry loads of up to 40 kg, have stabilization that allows you to shoot high-quality professional films. It can be in the air for several hours. Accurate guidance and launch can be carried out remotely, including at night through infrared equipment on the quadcorder.
Great weapon for the fighters of New Russia!

[Undermined ustoev]

Quote: marshes

Quote: Undermining the Foundations

In the Chinese. I want to work in the defense industry, to do this professionally, and not in my backyard.

The most interesting thing is that in the backyard you can make money, tenge
Producing not fancy stuff.

I get paid at work. If you also start earning on a hobby, then what kind of hobby is it? I prefer the proletarian approach to making money on the principle: my brains and hands on your means of production and grandmother. If I draw for someone - only if there is an irresistible desire and only for hard currency "thank you very much". It goes without saying that there are very few people for whom I am doing something for free and I have known them personally for quite some time. So it goes.

[marshes]

Quote: Undermining the Foundations

I get paid at work

Well, thank God.

Quote: Undermining the Foundations

If you also start earning on a hobby, then what kind of hobby is it?

What I brought, it began with a hobby, a lot of money was spent but everything returned, now I have metalwork, though it’s not steel but duralumin, D3. Five machines are torn.
I am not so "smart", not those education. There is a brain, that decides. And that RVSNschik. I can agree or fill a turnip

Quote: Undermining the Foundations

I prefer the proletarian approach to making money on the principle: my brains and hands on your means of production and grandmother.

We tried to do this in 90, no one does not write it. Until we did our own on cabinet furniture, here it is looking for soft. Made throughout the KZ diverged, even were "court furniture makers" It all starts with a small one. They started that in the house, a private house is a suburb, they collected furniture.
Now a metal shop, there is something true ...

[Dyagilev]

It used to be good: he went out into the street, greeted the people and led the country back. And now? Guys in suits won't help. Papamobile won't save either.

[marshes]

Quote: Dyagilev

It used to be good: he went out into the street, greeted the people and led the country back.

As in the movie-Chicken Ryaba-hello people.

Quote: Dyagilev

. And now? Guys in suits won't help. Papamobile won't save either.

Meren Pullman, protects against weapons of mass destruction, not only against grenade launcher shots, Shevornadze will not let you lie.

[Cobra77]

I have been hearing about these rotorcraft for about 5 years, as I probably have. However, I would like to see real prototypes with weapons on board. And not mass-scale models from exhibitions. I would also like to hear about the alleged tactics of combat use. Range of action, degree of autonomy, security. I also want to understand why copters have an advantage over the drone's airplane scheme, except for mobility and the possibility of hovering precisely in the context of combat use?

[midashko]

"Military valor is running out" - somehow Alexander the Great said while examining the ballista.

Indeed, soon (well, maybe not so soon) the soldier and, especially the officer, will fight in the bunker, at the computer, will knock on the keyboard, in the mouth a cigarette, next to coffee. And on the battlefield, various robots with artificial intelligence will run, jump, fly, crawl underground, swim on and under water. They will exterminate their own kind and the civilian population, as well as protect people in the bunker. Warriors will forget how to shoot, just as they forgot fencing, physical training will come down to formality, they will be fat and belly, the whole service will be held in computer shooters. Decisions for warriors will be made either by politicians or by a computer, as a device capable of processing large volumes of data in the shortest possible time and more accurately making a decision.
Macedonian was right.

[Papapg]

Very good news, long-awaited. And to fly at night, then they won’t bring down.

[Mestny]

Quote: UREC

Yes, God did not create man, but the devil. How many brains are working around the world and the money is spent to create tools for killing their own kind.

Do not worry. If there is no use in a real war, then they will certainly be used in a civilian. There is no need to shoot grenades there, but cargo delivery and high reliability in extreme situations will come in handy.

[Michael easily]

Expanding the UAV scanning area is a normal evolutionary STEP ...

[vv3]

There are simply no words !!! Why hang weapons on a small UAV, if it can be coordinated with the same "COALITSEY ..", with "DEATH", other long-range means of destruction. Is it so difficult to understand? Here is a simple task: when will it be solved? That is what is needed for Syria and in general ...

[Letnab]

Here, rather, the coordination of a large UAV with a long autonomous stay in the air will be, i.e. It turns out that the UAV control center transmits aerial surveillance data to artillery units through the troop control center. It turns out discussed here on the site "Andromeda".
And for small units, as an additional option, small UAVs such as quadrics and multicopter, to control their sector during the battle, and according to their data, the adoption of any decision, including calling for help from artillery or aircraft.

[Dragon-y]

The role of a "grenade launcher" can be a glass beaker system with a grenade inserted inside, from the fuse of which the check is removed (or it is pulled out when dropped).
At the command, the glass is dropped, when it hits the ground it breaks, then it is known that.
Isn't it a "grenade launcher"? Moreover, they can drop it right on the head.
And at the same time - no return! .. :)