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At home, sick, abroad - a chore: what the Russian people want

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Recently was in Berlin. In the evening, I went to the bar, not to Elephant, as Stirlitz, but something similar. I sit drinking coffee. And at the bar three young and very drunk Germans. One all the time something screamed out loud and rather tired of me.


At home, sick, abroad - a chore: what the Russian people want


I finished my coffee, got up. When I was passing by the bar, the young gorlopan detained me a bit, patted me on the shoulder, as if inviting me to participate in their fun.

I grinned and shook my head. The guy asked: “Deutsch?” (“German?”). I replied: “Nine. Rusish. The guy suddenly fell silent and almost pressed his head into the shoulders. I retired. I will not hide, with a triumphant smile: I was pleased with the effect produced. Rusish, aha.

And I am Russian to the very depths. Exemplary Russian. Scratch me - you will find a Tatar, this is from the father's side, with my mother's Ukrainians - where without them? - and somewhere mysterious Lithuanian great-grandmother lurked. In short, the correct Russian DNA. Thick and rich as borscht.

And my whole set of chromosomes, and in addition to it a set of meadow Vyatka herbs, salted mushrooms, birch brooms, my mother's lullabies, three volumes of Chekhov in a green cover, Chukchi red caviar, mother of aunt Zina from the village of Brykino, crumpled letters of her father, December stars from snowy childhood, Haidai’s comedies, sheets on the ropes in the Lublin courtyard, Piggy squeals, sad Tchaikovsky violins, voices from the kitchen radio, the smell of carbolic on the Moscow-Lipetsk train, transparent tinctures of Ivan Petrovich - this whole set made me a human being From such a depth that it is terrible to glance, as in a monastic well.

And there is no originality in me, I am a typical Russian. Mysterious, thoughtful and dangerous. Contemplator. Dostoevsky wrote in The Brothers Karamazov about such a typical contemplator, that “maybe, having accumulated impressions over many years, he would give up everything and go to Jerusalem to wander and escape, and maybe his native village would suddenly burn, or maybe that and more together. "

To be Russian is to be torn to pieces. Frowned upon. Wide open. One leg in Karelia, the other in Kamchatka. With one hand to take all that is bad, the other - immediately give the first oncoming swindler. One eye on the icon to marvel, the other - on news The first channel.

And a Russian cannot calmly dig in his garden or sit in the kitchen in his native hruschob - no, he does not just sit and dig, he looks around at half of the planet, he is so used to it. He thinks in colossal spaces, every Russian is a geopolitical. Give Russian will, he will make a garlic bed from Perm to Paris.

Some farmer-reddish farmer in Alabama doesn’t know exactly where New York is, and the Russian knows even how much our rocket will fly to New York. Why send a rocket there? Well, this is a second question, insignificant, we do not waste money on trifles.

Now we are worried about Syria. Maybe I have a faucet in the bathroom, but first I know that there is in Syria, and then, if time remains, I’ll get the faucet. Syria is more important to me than a native crane.

Academician Pavlov, our great physiologist, gave a lecture “On the Russian Mind” in 1918. The verdict was this: the Russian mind is superficial, our people are not used to repeating something for a long time, it is not interesting to them. However, Pavlov himself or a contemporary of his Mendeleev seemed to have denied this accusation by his own experience, but in general it was correctly captured.

Russian should have time to think so much around that life is not enough. That's why we drink a lot: each glass seems to make it clearer. World processes accelerates. He waved a glass - Chamberlain is gone. He waved another - Reagan flew by. Third upset - let's deal with Merkel. Not biting.

Twenty years ago I had two Italian girlfriends. We came from the University of Milan to write diplomas in Moscow - something about our great culture. They began to comprehend it quickly - through vodka. They come, say, to visit me and immediately get a bottle from the bag: "We know how you have made." Well, like a Russian kid, I did not hit the face with dirt. Poured in full, overturned: "I will show you how we can do!". The Italians squealed: “Belissimo!” - and looked at me with admiring eyes of the Rafael Madonnas. God, how much I drank with them! And it kept, never fell. Because he understood: behind Russia, nowhere to retreat. Then he helped write one diploma. We, the Russians, are master of all hands, especially with a hangover.
Most of all, Russian appreciates the state of a drowsy full rest. That jelly on the table, salary on time, Urgant on the screen. If something goes wrong, the Russian is angry. But not for long. Russian always knows: tomorrow may be worse.

Only our people could write a proverb about a bag and a prison. My mother all her life in the kitchen in the canteen was folding cans with a stew - “for a rainy day”. That day never came, but I find myself in the nearest “Pyaterochka” already stopping near the shelves with canned meat. I look at the banks thoughtfully. As if I want to ask them about something, like crazy Chekhov Gayev. But for now, keep quiet. I do not buy yet.

At the first opportunity, the Russian runs abroad. Away from the "lead abominations." The same Pushkin rushed all his life - they did not let him go. And Gogol was happy as a child, crossing the border of Russia. Italy, he adored. This is how Zhukovsky wrote from there: “She is mine! No one in the world takes it from me! I was born here. Russia, Petersburg, snow, scoundrels, department, department, theater - all this I dreamed of. I woke up again in my homeland ... ". And then, when the Russian gets drunk with wine, he sees enough of the baroque and has heard the organ, buy junk and cheese, wake up in it.

Foreigners are fed up with their lying smiles, it's time to miss. Tosca vague, unclear. Not the snow and the scoundrels. And for what longs? Neither Gogol, nor Nabokov, nor Sikorsky, nor Tarkovsky will give an answer. Russian melancholy is inexplicable and alarming like a bell ringing over the hills, like a girl’s song in a random train, like the sound of a drill from a neighbor. At home, sick, abroad - a chore.

To be Russian is to live between the sky and the pool, between the hammer and the sickle.

Every Russian scolds his country for what it is worth. The authorities have thieves and bastards, have taken away everything that you can, there is no one to believe, the roads are terrible, there is no law, there is no future, completely damned days, dead souls, only to throw down the Volga from the cliff! I curse myself, I do not regret words. But as soon as I had a foreigner or — worse than that — my compatriot, who had not lived here for a long time, would begin to say nasty things about my country — then I beast like a drunken Yesenin. Here I am ready right in the face. With a swing.

This is my country and all its sins are on me. If she's bad, then I'm not a present either. But we will suffer together. Without suffering - what kind of Russian FIG? And to leave from here - where and why? I have a whole world of foreign land. I'll die here. The coffin will be made to me by the drunken master Bezenchuk, and in the coffin let them put a couple of cans of stew. For a rainy day. For perhaps "there" will be even worse.
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  1. 24rus
    24rus 14 January 2016 05: 32
    -164 qualifying.
    In Siberia for many years there are definitely no all kinds of purely Russian links.
    1. Finches
      Finches 14 January 2016 05: 45
      158
      Russian is not just a nationality, it is a state of mind!
      1. Leviton
        Leviton 14 January 2016 08: 26
        69
        Every Russian scolds his country on what the light stands. Thieves and bastards are in power, they have stolen everything that is possible, there is nobody to believe, the roads are terrible, there is no law, there is no future, all the damned days, dead souls, only to rush into the Volga from a cliff!

        Just like according to Zadornov, the Russians all night in the bar under a glass convinced the American that their country of thieves and bastards had filled his face when he agreed .....
        1. Byshido_dis
          Byshido_dis 14 January 2016 14: 07
          -15 qualifying.
          Disgusting article ... some flares and myths. I do not know what the author is trying to achieve, if only according to the principle of "repetition is the mother of learning" that all Russian drunks, that nothing is done in Russia, that it is necessary to mate with chocks, that Russia is a country of thieves and embezzlers ... I don’t understand ... Maybe I don’t Russian? But I never "Every Russian scolds his country for whatever reason." I did not scold my country! Politicians / people scolded but COUNTRY? Never! In general, the article smells of sewage ...
          1. Grandfather Luka
            Grandfather Luka 14 January 2016 14: 37
            +8
            I press five. Plus.
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 14 January 2016 19: 55
              +8
              Quote: Grandfather Luka
              I press five. Plus.

              Roman shouts: to the landowner,
              Kuzma yells: to an official,
              Luke screams: ass,
              The merchandise to the fat belly -
              screaming bros Gubin ...
              man that bull is going to get quiet
              what a whim
              do not knock out, rest
              everyone stands on his own!
              whether such a dispute started
              what passersby think
              the guys found the treasure,
              and share among themselves ... laughing
              1. Grandfather Luka
                Grandfather Luka 15 January 2016 06: 39
                +1
                Partly you are right: there is nothing to throw beads ..... Anywhere. Yes, it really hurts the topic is close to my heart, that’s it.
              2. solovald
                solovald 15 January 2016 07: 54
                0
                Today - to the official / deputy.
              3. Aleksandr Tot
                Aleksandr Tot 16 January 2016 23: 51
                -1
                Mordvin 3. Counted. + for antics.
                Lafontaine and Marshak have similar topics. You are not the Original.
                So, they added to the topic of classics.
            2. iliitchitch
              iliitchitch 16 January 2016 15: 24
              +4
              This means that three contemporaries gathered - Pavlov, Mendeleev and the Author of this opus ... For composition 4, honestly. drinks
          2. OMEDB
            OMEDB 14 January 2016 14: 56
            23
            The author does not achieve anything, shared his, so to speak, what is at heart. And you all perceived one-sidedly, not Russian you, certainly not in your soul and not in your thoughts!
            1. sergnow
              sergnow 15 January 2016 02: 19
              -21 qualifying.
              The author poured shit over the tub, but you were flattering for a couple and did not notice that! What, accustomed to foreign shit?
              1. Aleksandr Tot
                Aleksandr Tot 15 January 2016 18: 21
                -3
                sergnow, I, too, is trampled to death.
                "shit tub" he had. He lives with him and is burdened. Eased (freed) the soul for the fresh.
                His "health" does not interfere with the "funeral".
          3. Starley from the south
            Starley from the south 14 January 2016 19: 52
            12
            Quote: Byshido_dis
            Vile article ... some flare and myths.

            Each has his own pink, or other color, glasses ... But the article is sincere. You can agree with the author, you can disagree. Not all Russians (by state of mind) abuse the country, far from all. Officials and bosses are scolded by everyone, because among them there are much more scoundrels than among ordinary people, and only liberals are unhappy with the country.
            1. sergnow
              sergnow 15 January 2016 02: 21
              -13 qualifying.
              Hmm, in your case, simplicity is worse than theft! Yes, this scum sincerely vilifies us and our Motherland, and you are in this shit!
              1. Aleksandr Tot
                Aleksandr Tot 15 January 2016 18: 30
                -2
                sergnow. Be lenient with the author’s emotional infantility. There is a wonderful cuddly folk wisdom - do not take women, children and fools seriously.
                Surely he (the author) does not go to advisers to the president of the Russian Federation.
            2. iliitchitch
              iliitchitch 16 January 2016 19: 06
              +2
              Quote: Starley from the South
              only liberals are unhappy with the country.


              Trollers walk in pairs, like crabs, sergeant pairs hu ... rgu carry, what would they, the entropy.
            3. iliitchitch
              iliitchitch 17 January 2016 17: 03
              0
              Quote: Starley from the South
              Everybody scolds their bosses, because among them there are much more scoundrels than among ordinary people, and only liberals are unhappy with the country.


              A tear blinked for the Motherland and stuck it in the mouth, and this is not a joke. Though not rich, but we live. Oh, that way, after 400-500, come to life for a short time, well, at least look at the descendants with an eye.
          4. Alf
            Alf 14 January 2016 21: 44
            21
            Quote: Byshido_dis
            Disgusting article ... some flares and myths. I do not know what the author is trying to achieve, if only according to the principle of "repetition is the mother of learning" that all Russian drunks, that nothing is done in Russia, that it is necessary to mate with chocks, that Russia is a country of thieves and embezzlers ... I don’t understand ... Maybe I don’t Russian? But I never "Every Russian scolds his country for whatever reason." I did not scold my country! Politicians / people scolded but COUNTRY? Never! In general, the article smells of sewage ...

            I myself often scold Russia. "Well, how is it possible", "Russia is a godforsaken country."
            And offer to go where it’s full and calm, I won’t go. Yes, it’s not very satisfying here, it’s somehow messy, but here is my Motherland. Here I was born, raised, God forbid, die. But trouble will come, I’ll go to war for Russia.
            I guess I'm a purebred Russian.
            1. paul-muatdeeb
              paul-muatdeeb 14 January 2016 22: 01
              22
              I myself have a box of stewed meat in the hallway and a few packs of sugar in the pantry. I make good money. Probably at the genetic level. I remember the story of my mother’s brother (he was born in the war) about a small piece of SMOKED SAUSAGE found on the road in the dust, which he found and ate.
              By nature, I myself am kindness. But just a beast when they insult MY Homeland. I can not disgrace my grandfathers who came to Berlin and Shanghai.
              When it was possible - the wife persuaded to go to Turkey. Refused - I will fall off and cling to the face. After all, Fedor Ushakov did not just beat them ...
          5. sergnow
            sergnow 15 January 2016 02: 13
            -23 qualifying.
            You are right! The author is far from Russian, so he clung to his crap, and duriks lick him-shit-eaters for a couple of forest points!
            1. Aleksandr Tot
              Aleksandr Tot 15 January 2016 18: 37
              +4
              sergnow. I noticed in your comments an anal-fecal tendency - "shit tub", "in this shit", "crap", "point", "shit-eaters".
              Please comment.
          6. Aleksandr Tot
            Aleksandr Tot 15 January 2016 18: 16
            +1
            Yes, Byshido_dis, a controversial article, controversial as much as emotional! But agree - the author is bursting. He poured out his soul as it is. With this it is possible in intelligence.
          7. Rarog
            Rarog 15 January 2016 20: 25
            +2
            Quote: Byshido_dis
            Disgusting article ... some flares and myths. I do not know what the author is trying to achieve, if only according to the principle of "repetition is the mother of learning" that all Russian drunks, that nothing is done in Russia, that it is necessary to mate with chocks, that Russia is a country of thieves and embezzlers ... I don’t understand ... Maybe I don’t Russian? But I never "Every Russian scolds his country for whatever reason." I did not scold my country! Politicians / people scolded but COUNTRY? Never! In general, the article smells of sewage ...


            Totally agree with you! Just recently, everyone was outraged by the commentators of the Match channel and Tina Kandelaki with their "arrivals" on the Russian ethnos ... how is it from Tina's words? - "There are no Russians!" Most of those who now fiercely add to this article tore their hair out, demanded Kandelak and other Russophobes to answer, and now they themselves are ready to admit that the Russian ethnos no longer exists, the Russian is like a state of mind, the mentality is like that, and the Russian People no longer, going somewhere. And laughter and sin.
          8. sarmaght
            sarmaght 15 January 2016 22: 28
            +4
            I explain for those who are overtaking: - an article on the fundamental genetic, physical, mental, moral difference between a Russian and a “Deutsche” - a guy in a bar cuts out even a sub-shirt in a second, “date” - and - he pulls his head in, feeling the back of his head over the Reichstag, millions of victims and there is much more that makes the Germans shive at the sight of a Russian!
            1. 298209
              298209 16 January 2016 20: 34
              +1
              Quote: sarmaght
              I explain for those who are overtaking: - an article on the fundamental genetic, physical, mental, moral difference between a Russian and a “Deutsche” - a guy in a bar cuts out even a sub-shirt in a second, “date” - and - he pulls his head in, feeling the back of his head over the Reichstag, millions of victims and there is much more that makes the Germans shive at the sight of a Russian!

              I agree and confirmed by personal experience, only the place of action of Southeast Asia.
          9. shamil
            shamil 16 January 2016 22: 15
            0
            I agree. It smells. But what to do honestly describes yourself, but somewhere you recognize yourself? Just never scold the country. A person or several may be bad, but not native Russia. Although it’s a shame to ... that led her into a historical swamp. And it began about 400 years ago.
      2. DanSabaka
        DanSabaka 14 January 2016 09: 20
        24
        Russian is not just a nationality, it is a state of mind!

        more then, it is also a character and sexual orientation .... the most correct orientation .....
        1. paul-muatdeeb
          paul-muatdeeb 14 January 2016 22: 04
          +2
          Exactly. These are our cars and weapons. Not very convenient, but simple, reliable and trouble-free. Won't let you down
      3. Vend
        Vend 14 January 2016 09: 37
        17
        Quote: Finches
        Russian is not just a nationality, it is a state of mind!
        This is precisely, has long been proven by history.
        This is my country, and all its sins are on me. If she’s nasty, then I’m not a present either.
        Well said the author. Precisely noticed. As they say, their dogs are fighting, do not interfere with a stranger.
      4. user
        user 14 January 2016 20: 19
        +2
        Russian always knows: tomorrow could be worse.


        Russian is not just a nationality, it is a state of mind!


        Well, we have such a mentality! Look at how many nationalities there are in the Russian Federation, and if you start philosophizing about something, you just can’t determine your nationality (well, if there are no special features of your people), this distinguishes Russia from the rest of the countries (in the rest of the territory of the former USSR it has already begun to disappear, probably imperial thinking affects this too).
      5. iouris
        iouris 15 January 2016 00: 44
        +5
        In Latvia, in the early 1990s, when many around, as if on a command from the Center, began to pick their national roots, someone quite clearly formulated the problem:
        Latvian is a vocation.
        Russian is fate!
      6. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 15 January 2016 03: 36
        +5
        Quote: Finches
        Russian is not just a nationality, it is a state of mind!

        Vasily Filippovich once said
        "It doesn't matter what your skin color or eye shape. For the enemy, you are all Russian soldiers.".
        Although I am in this regard without surprises - and the color of the skin is the most common, and the shape of the eyes is the most standard - but I saw the confirmation of VF Margelov's words with my own eyes, when you don’t understand what Asian people of our Uzbeks, Armenians and Tatars called "Russi". I think that in 45 in Germany the Germans also did not particularly ask themselves the question of the nationality of our soldiers. It was in the 2000s that in German films we all became some kind of Kalmyks (with all due respect to the Kalmyks), and in the 45th - "The Russians are coming!" hung over Germany ... As well as over Paris in 1814 ...

        The most interesting thing is that it doesn’t hurt, we need universal love for us. We will manage without it. And here they will go where without us, when from the next Mamai, Napoleon or Hitler Europe will have to shut our backs out of habit, and we suddenly get tired? Or we will believe Europe and think to ourselves everything that it weaves about us. To whom then will Europe remain?
      7. Shuttle
        Shuttle 15 January 2016 13: 02
        +1
        Quote: Finches
        Russian is not just a nationality, it is a state of mind!

        Russian is the title! He still needs to be earned.
        1. 298209
          298209 16 January 2016 20: 40
          0
          Explain the criteria .....
        2. Aleksandr Tot
          Aleksandr Tot 17 January 2016 00: 10
          +1
          Oppa. Shuttle, you got it. I'm not surprised that no one has responded to your idea so far. And it’s true - "Russian is a title! You still have to earn it." The veins of the regulars of the VO are not iron. There are no objections to joining Jews at VO. But with the entry into the Russians - a pause. Breaking the pattern.
          Well done Shuttle.
          1. Grandfather Luka
            Grandfather Luka 17 January 2016 16: 08
            0
            I agree! Hello, friends!
      8. boris-1230
        boris-1230 16 January 2016 23: 14
        0
        Russian is not just a nationality, it is a state of mind!

        A Moldovan is a diagnosis, a crest is a sentence, and a Russian is fate!
        But a Jew is not a nation, this is a state of mind ... Something like that was said in Soviet times. hi
        1. Aleksandr Tot
          Aleksandr Tot 17 January 2016 00: 23
          0
          Boris, you are not that you would be completely wrong, but as you said in Soviet times.
          "zagali" correctly - "a Jew is not a nation."
          Your phrase "But a Jew is not a nation, this is a state of mind ..." is similar to the truth.
    2. Nitarius
      Nitarius 14 January 2016 05: 57
      113
      I grieve you Dear! I live in Tomsk, after the institute I stayed, from the Kemerovo region!
      So ... I was also interested in this issue, for the sake of interest.
      So when they lifted the ban on leaving .. gentlemen who wanted ..types Poles and Lithuanians pulled. Everyone who wanted to stayed. So 5-10% percent left.
      - Those who lived and live like that love their Siberian open spaces, the beauty of the taiga, the beauty of birch trees, and the lake with fish and the serene beauty of winter and summer!
      So in vain you are so! HOW THE PEOPLE WAS SO AND REMAINED! YES diluted by someone ..))) But we love our homeland!
      Hello from Siberia!
      1. nimboris
        nimboris 14 January 2016 06: 04
        29
        Siberia is power! Tomsk is the student capital of Siberia. Hello Tomsk from sunny Buryatia. I missed him, his wet, snowy winters, cloudy weather, but how fun it was once, although I will never leave anywhere from my native Buryatia.
        1. Starley from the south
          Starley from the south 14 January 2016 20: 02
          +3
          There are good places to relax near Tomsk. But here I was born here in Krasnodar, I live here now, there are many relatives here. But best of all I lived in Novosibirsk, the city of my dreams, there are other people. And I do not need any foreign countries, most importantly, there are no such people as here, here everywhere in Russia. How can a foreigner understand this when we ourselves (including myself) cannot understand ourselves !?
        2. Aleksandr Tot
          Aleksandr Tot 17 January 2016 00: 28
          +1
          Siberia is power. Students of Tomsk are power. Tomsk is power. Buryatia is power.
          nimboris - RUSSIA is in force in us and will stand!
      2. Mera joota
        Mera joota 14 January 2016 06: 05
        +5
        Quote: Nitarius
        Those who lived and live like that love their Siberian open spaces, the beauty of the taiga, the beautiful birch trees, and the lake with fish and the serene beauty of winter and summer!

        Tomsk is a good city, as in my opinion the best in Western Siberia!
      3. Grandfather Luka
        Grandfather Luka 14 January 2016 07: 05
        -57 qualifying.
        The article is vile. The author is hardly Russian, most likely a Jew. The thesis that Tatarin was found to scratch the Russian was invented by the Jews, and they are relayed by them. Muslims and Orthodox Christians never mixed up intimately, the church did not allow, even in the Soviet period, such marriages were more likely an exception to the rule.
        1. guzik007
          guzik007 14 January 2016 07: 43
          66
          Muslims and Orthodox never mixed in blood, the church did not allow
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          Grandfather Luka, he is broadcasting from a dense zanyuhany wilderness, so "I love" such peremptory statements from people who do not chop anything on the topic. Luka! grandpa! Tear off your backside from the shop, but drive along the Volga region. There are so many intermarried marriages that your soul, so caring for the purity of the nation, will turn over and you will slip back into your wilderness, mourning your collapsed ideals.
          The article, you see, is petty. Doesn’t fit into his ideals. I will say that Russia is so big that the Russian ethnos is plastic and fluid and every time. Coming to new lands. Tried not to burn and kill, but to draw new peoples into itself through mixed marriages. That's because in Buryatia or Evenkia with Yakutia go a little slanting, dark-skinned men, proudly speaking-I am Russian
          This is the difference with the greatness of our people from the Anglo-Saxons, who, for peace, had to slaughter Aborigines everywhere. And their descendants carry this sin through the ages. And they are contorted not childishly from us, from the recognition of their sinfulness.
          1. Grandfather Luka
            Grandfather Luka 14 January 2016 08: 51
            -25 qualifying.
            Broadcast, my dear, according to the official position of our polit. leadership, which I myself support in part. However, the style you use leaves no doubt about the level of your intelligence. As well as knowledge. The Volga region is traditionally inhabited by the Tatars. And it is probably not worth citing this particular area as an objection. I would advise you to take a ride on the golden ring, to stop by Smolensk, Pskov, both Novgorods, Yaroslavl, there are many more cities in central Russia, I advise you to stop by Yekaterinburg, Perm, Chelyabinsk, further to Siberia and perhaps your illusions will dissipate. I did not speak about ideals and I am not worried about the purity of the race, however, I see that I have stepped on a sore corn. Should I call you Tina Kandelaki for an hour? Our brothers Tatars, Chechens, Bashkirs, etc. have their own nat. republics, autonomy with nat. languages, customs, etc., the Russians do not, Russia is multinational, according to the official version of the territory. Another "overtone" window. Think about it. Although you may not need it.
            1. Nagaibak
              Nagaibak 14 January 2016 08: 56
              +9
              DedLuka "As well as knowledge. The Volga region is traditionally inhabited by Tatars."
              What Volga region do you mean?))) And about the Volga type of person did not hear anything?))) Tatars did not inhabit the Volga region. And then the Finno-Ugrians were completely forgotten.
              1. Aleksandr Tot
                Aleksandr Tot 20 January 2016 19: 31
                0
                Nagabyke. I am moved by your confidence in the reliability of the source of your knowledge.
                Take a look at other topics in the same source and other, more reasonable. Your confidence will fade in your own eyes.
                This topic is brain science with many extensions.
                To begin with - look at the lobotomy in connection with the causes and subsequent conclusions about the functions of the frontal parts of the gray. Marvel
                Take an interest in genetics, rassology. The history of these sciences. You will not regret.
            2. guzik007
              guzik007 14 January 2016 12: 16
              +2
              Broadcast, dear, according to the official position of our polit. leadership, which I myself partially support. However, the style you use leaves no doubt in the level of your intelligence
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              Do not worry about the level of my intellect, at least higher than yours by an order of magnitude, and only the experience of everyday life in 54 years — Ohog! Smoke aside
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              As well as knowledge. Volga region, traditionally inhabited by the Tatars

              there are no comments at all. This is to the level of your illiteracy.
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              I advise you to call in Yekaterinburg, Perm, Chelyabinsk, further to Siberia and maybe your illusions will dissipate
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              I wish you to repeat my youthful trips of mine — sniff outback — and your popular ideas about the Motherland will probably disappear
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              Our brothers Tatars, Chechens, Bashkirs, etc. have their own nat. republic, autonomy with nat. languages, customs, etc.,

              You start to bustle, grandpa? The article is generally a little bit different))
              1. Grandfather Luka
                Grandfather Luka 14 January 2016 13: 48
                +5
                I'm talking about something else. For those who are in the tank. For some time now we have been subjected to the process of recoding mentality. Even the Trotskyists introduced the thesis "proletarians of all countries, etc. .. That is, Russian identity (namely the Russian spirit and not ethnicity) was buried under the idea of ​​a transnational. After 91, when the idea of ​​proletarians became irrelevant, the term Russians introduced, we are observing the next stage now - the Russian is not an ethnos, but a state of mind. Then there will be the next stage - forget about the Russian World, you recognized yourself as Tatars yesterday. Perhaps before that there will be two more gaskets, which you also recognize. (overtone windows, if anyone After that, the idea of ​​the Russian World will be buried completely. The transnational government will be a well-deserved gift. And the objections will be illogical. And then the civil war. They are trying to knock out the Russian spirit from us, with the help of such substrates. Those who do not understand this I do not condemn, but those who flogged me here either exalted degenerates or agents of the State Department, don’t exact a ridiculous cliché, I say figuratively. I live in the Urals, the national composition is quite daring shany, we live in peace, nat. The question is not raised at all. I have friends of different nationalities. But I will make a reservation, the Tatars do not consider themselves Russian, in contrast to the Soviet era. Call a Tatar a Tatar, he will be offended by you, I am Russian (just like that Ethiopian), after the collapse of the USSR, an amazing metamorphosis occurred - Kazan is the capital of the world. This is true, by the way.
                1. Heimdall49
                  Heimdall49 14 January 2016 13: 53
                  +5
                  Properly outlined. I agree with everything smile
                2. sarmaght
                  sarmaght 15 January 2016 22: 11
                  0
                  The best way to unite the Russian World is to give an opportunity to 20-25 million Russians abandoned abroad in the 91st “humpback” and their children to get over whoever wants to go to Russia, a worthy answer and atonement for the betrayal of 91!
                3. 298209
                  298209 16 January 2016 20: 50
                  0
                  Quote: Grandfather Luka
                  I'm talking about something else. For those who are in the tank. For some time now we have been subjected to the process of recoding mentality. Even the Trotskyists introduced the thesis "proletarians of all countries, etc. .. That is, Russian identity (namely the Russian spirit and not ethnicity) was buried under the idea of ​​a transnational. After 91, when the idea of ​​proletarians became irrelevant, the term Russians introduced, we are observing the next stage now - the Russian is not an ethnos, but a state of mind. Then there will be the next stage - forget about the Russian World, you recognized yourself as Tatars yesterday. Perhaps before that there will be two more gaskets, which you also recognize. (overtone windows, if anyone After that, the idea of ​​the Russian World will be buried completely. The transnational government will be a well-deserved gift. And the objections will be illogical. And then the civil war. They are trying to knock out the Russian spirit from us, with the help of such substrates. Those who do not understand this I do not condemn, but those who flogged me here either exalted degenerates or agents of the State Department, don’t exact a ridiculous cliché, I say figuratively. I live in the Urals, the national composition is quite daring shany, we live in peace, nat. The question is not raised at all. I have friends of different nationalities. But I will make a reservation, the Tatars do not consider themselves Russian, in contrast to the Soviet era. Call a Tatar a Tatar, he will be offended by you, I am Russian (just like that Ethiopian), after the collapse of the USSR, an amazing metamorphosis occurred - Kazan is the capital of the world. This is true, by the way.
                4. 298209
                  298209 16 January 2016 22: 08
                  0
                  Well, why are you so worried about the Russian world! It was, is and will be as long as the planet EARTH exists. And how is it really bad if all non-Russians in Russia, and in the near abroad, communicate on the GREAT and MIGHTY. convenient and cheap !!! And then, the process of assimilation has not been canceled. I don’t know how in the Urals, but in Siberia, children from mixed marriages were written by Russians and not only Russian and non-Russian, but even between non-Russian spouses. And not even at all under duress. And where do we go with " submarine "if our non-Russian ancestors participated in all wars, conflicts for the Tsar and the Fatherland, for the Motherland and Stalin.
              2. Grandfather Luka
                Grandfather Luka 14 January 2016 14: 17
                -7
                A respectable age is not yet a guarantee against dementia. I'm sorry.
                1. Aleksandr Tot
                  Aleksandr Tot 22 January 2016 21: 50
                  0
                  Yes, the young one is likely to become an old moron with the experience of making stupid decisions and not the fact that with subsequent adequate conclusions. Insanity can overtake earlier than wisdom.
            3. lex locis
              lex locis 14 January 2016 13: 05
              +3
              At the time of Pushkin there was such a literary character - Luka Mudischev.
              You probably mow under it?
              1. Grandfather Luka
                Grandfather Luka 15 January 2016 12: 29
                +1
                And you, I suppose, "a widow, a young merchant's wife." Can't find your ten vershoks?
          2. Sorokin
            Sorokin 14 January 2016 09: 16
            13
            Well, I very much agree with you. And I agree, would you look at my son. Mujahideen is a mujahideen, although I am fair-haired. But he proudly wears the Surname and Russian.
            1. little man
              little man 14 January 2016 18: 15
              +3
              we have only Russians and Ukrainians in our blood, and they take their sons for the Caucasians; in general, in every Soviet Central Asian republic they revered me for their sake.
          3. Grandfather Luka
            Grandfather Luka 14 January 2016 09: 38
            -6
            I read the comments, and once again I am surprised how little praise our person needs, and you can already plow on it. I remember, as a sinful thing, a fairy tale about Buratina: "You don't need a knife for a fool, you will lie to him with three boxes, and do with him what you like." The classics have long recognized fools as the main trouble in Russia, since then little has changed. I'm sorry.
            1. avva2012
              avva2012 14 January 2016 09: 51
              +8
              Classics have long recognized fools as the main trouble of Russia, since then little has changed. I'm sorry.
              It’s wonderful to be smart! I sincerely envy you. Himself, then I, somehow not very. I read your wonderful comments and I am happy for joy, because there are smart people in the world. The syllable, the preparation of sentences, the breadth and flexibility of the mind, all at the level of the classics.
              One thing is interesting: "Don't you mind that you are the only one on the site?" And, more, "you are not interested in where others are so smart?"
              1. Diana Ilyina
                Diana Ilyina 14 January 2016 10: 44
                20
                Quote: avva2012
                One thing is interesting: "Don't you mind that you are the only one on the site?" And, more, "you are not interested in where others are so smart?"


                Bravo Alexander! A very worthy and beautiful answer to the Nazi! And advice to him, let him come to our Don and see how many mixed marriages we have, and what kind of children are obtained from this mixture! My second cousin, a Don Cossack woman, is married to a Tatar and they have two very handsome guys! My parents are both native Don Cossacks, my dad (already deceased) looked like a Mongol, my mother was a cross between a Greek and a Turkish woman! And what is most important, ALL PERSONALLY RUSSIAN in the first place, and already in the second DON COSSACKS! And not those disguised "Cossacks", but the most real by blood, by birth, by spirit, but still, first of all, RUSSIAN! Russian, it's still not a nationality, THIS IS A STATE OF THE SOUL!

                The author of the article is a huge plus! Everything is exactly as he wrote!
                1. avva2012
                  avva2012 14 January 2016 11: 01
                  +4
                  And he’s advised to let him come to our Don and see how many mixed marriages we have and what children are obtained from this mixture
                  hi So, you know why Nazism stems from complexes, youthful problems, "his dad has a store director, he is a Jew himself, so the girls hang on to him." So, your advice, alas, will not help. I think it will lead to decompensation. I haven't been to the Don, but was in Volgograd, at the market. I remember the Cossacks, yes ... What, after that, there are contests of the queens of the world and the universe, pale.
                  1. Diana Ilyina
                    Diana Ilyina 14 January 2016 11: 08
                    13
                    Quote: avva2012
                    I was not in the Don, but was in the city of Volgograd, at the bazaar. Cossack I remember, yes ... What, after that, contests of the queens of the world and the universe, pale.


                    Sasha, be sure to come to us on the Don, believe me, Volgograd, with all due respect, is resting! I have two friends from the city of Volzhsky, which is near Volgograd, very beautiful ladies, but without false modesty, there are simply more of them in Rostov! We have so many bloods mixed here that the "people" who talk about the purity of the nation would get rid of our guys in full!

                    With respect, to all truly Russian souls, from the Don Cossack! love
                    1. avva2012
                      avva2012 14 January 2016 11: 14
                      +3
                      I will try. "Quiet Don", one of my favorite books. I always dreamed of visiting the Don. Must come true! love
                      1. Diana Ilyina
                        Diana Ilyina 14 January 2016 11: 21
                        +8
                        Quote: avva2012
                        I will try. "Quiet Don", one of my favorite books. I always dreamed of visiting the Don. Must come true! love


                        Be sure to visit Veshenskaya, in the homeland of Sholokhov, I think you will like it! And of course in Rostov, the capital of the South of Russia, you will not be disappointed!

                        And I must also admit that the concentration of beautiful women in Ukraine is comparable to our South, but the trouble is, they are a little lame on their heads ("femen" as an example), and unlike us, they are very mercantile!

                        P.S. Come to Belaya Kalitva, we have a very beautiful nature! Admire our park and our attraction: the monument to the Warriors of Igor's Host (the word about Igor's regiment) and the two sisters - these are two mountains, almost identical!
                      2. avva2012
                        avva2012 14 January 2016 12: 07
                        0
                        Thanks, I'm trying
                      3. Uncle VasyaSayapin
                        Uncle VasyaSayapin 14 January 2016 13: 54
                        +3
                        I confirm: there are more beauties in Rostov than in other cities, well, maybe with the exception of Krasnodar. (I've been living in Rostov for 11 years). Hohlushek have a harmful character: they also want to be a "tsyrytsa" who commands the men and a "princess" who needs to be taken care of. It turns out again a split consciousness, from which Ukrainians have many troubles. Almost all men in Ukraine are henpecked, which is reflected in art as well: "Evenings on the farm ..." "Artist from Kakhanovka", etc.
                      4. Kaiten
                        Kaiten 14 January 2016 19: 20
                        -1
                        Quote: Uncle VasyaSayapin
                        Khokhlushka has a harmful character:

                        Oh, vey, say that. Khokhlushki-laughter-it’s the very tsimes.
                  2. 97110
                    97110 14 January 2016 22: 29
                    +2
                    Quote: Diana Ilyina
                    Stop by in Belaya Kalitva, we have a very beautiful nature!

                    From B. Kalitva to the mouth of the Seversky Donets, the places are amazing - the Donetsk ridge overlooks the river. Seversko-Donetsk sluice system. Locks 2 to 7 were commissioned in 1914, the dams are collapsible, they are laid on the bottom every autumn, they are raised every spring. 1 lock - Kochetovsky - already on the Don - was commissioned in 1919. Two years after RI died, the civil war was raging, the Melikhovs put on "Quiet Don" for Sholokhov, and the railroad workers stubbornly built the waterworks. Served for almost 100 years before reconstruction. Below is the Pukhlyakovsky farm. In August, the Kalinin Festival, in October - "Donskaya Vine". There is something to see on the Don.
                  3. Diana Ilyina
                    Diana Ilyina 14 January 2016 23: 57
                    +7
                    Quote: 97110
                    In August, the Kalinin Festival, in October - "Donskaya Vine". There is something to see on the Don.


                    Nikolai, we forgot about the Kayal readings! Previously, they took place on the Karaul Mountain, near the monument to Igor's Rati, and now in the village of Pogorelov, it is always very interesting! Warriors in armor, girls in old clothes, beauty!
                2. kalibr
                  kalibr 15 January 2016 08: 18
                  +3
                  I read the memoirs of a German, not a fascist, an engineer who, together with the troops, ended up in Russia in 1942 and built railways for the army. He writes very interestingly, besides, he did not fight, and he had time to see what was in the rear. And what struck him the most? Women of the South of Russia, and above all on the Don. Beautiful times, and secondly, for some reason they have very developed some parts of the body, especially in front, even in girls. We - he writes - talked about this for a long time and came to the conclusion that it was from eating huge quantities of sunflower seeds! "
            2. Heretik
              Heretik 14 January 2016 13: 41
              0
              [quote = Diana Ilyina]
              Diana, as a resident of Volgograd and who constantly travels around our business trips to Rostov-on-Don, let me disagree with you: There are a lot of beautiful girls in Rostov, but still there are few, but more of them in Volgograd and Volzhsky per capita .
              And on the subject - the author correctly says - we are an alloy of hearts and souls of our ancestors.
          4. Grandfather Luka
            Grandfather Luka 14 January 2016 13: 53
            +1
            In Europe, the same thing, in Germany in particular, evaluate the prospects.
        2. Grandfather Luka
          Grandfather Luka 14 January 2016 11: 07
          -6
          Well, some in the woods, some for firewood.
        3. tolyasik0577
          tolyasik0577 14 January 2016 12: 19
          +2
          We have a director of a Tatar company, his wife is a chief accountant-Russian. They are the owners of the company. Very nice people.
        4. Heimdall49
          Heimdall49 14 January 2016 14: 04
          0
          He comes to us in the Don and looks at how many mixed marriages we have, and what children are obtained from this mixture! My second cousin, Don Cossack, married to a Tatar

          And this is not because the Bolsheviks drained a bunch of natural Cossacks, they brought into their place class-close nonresident of unknown nationality? Plus, the liberated original Cossack villages were settled by comrades who descended from the mountains, Turks - Meskhetians, Armenians, etc.
          And now, after all this catastrophe, we talk with a touching tear of friendship between peoples and other sounding stupid stupidity, although we would have to let a tear come about the lost Russian people and mores.
        5. Volga Cossack
          Volga Cossack 15 January 2016 11: 32
          +1
          Thank you Dianushka !!! Welcome written! Soul tea! to Don from the Volga my Cossack Bow!
      4. Grandfather Luka
        Grandfather Luka 14 January 2016 11: 04
        -3
        Not alone, but clearly in the minority, confuses, this is true. I didn’t want to offend anyone, but some of my moods seemed strange, as did my unwillingness to see obvious things.
      5. Grandfather Luka
        Grandfather Luka 14 January 2016 14: 28
        -5
        Apparently I'm not so smart that I enter into polemics with you. Where are the rest of the wiseacres? Obviously where you are not.
        1. BARKHAN
          BARKHAN 14 January 2016 19: 35
          +3
          Quote: Grandfather Luka
          Apparently I'm not so smart that I enter into polemics with you. Where are the rest of the wiseacres? Obviously where you are not.

          Well, let's say you're right ...
          And what do you propose now? To clean Russia up to crystal-clear Russianness? And how? Gas chambers and ditches? And from mixed marriages to which category of children? Or cut them to pieces?
          An example should be taken from China. China simply assimilated (dissolved) nafig of all the invaders in itself, in its culture, and all the Chinese are now. Even though you and the mighty Mongol conquered the Chinese, but you live in a Chinese house, eat Chinese food, wear Chinese clothes and weapons, you sleep with Chinese women ... then your children will be Chinese anyway ... And your Mongol feats will be of interest only to historians (and it is also written about them in Chinese).
          And what you are proposing now is the massacre with the subsequent destruction of Russia.
          1. Heimdall49
            Heimdall49 14 January 2016 20: 44
            0
            To clean Russia up to crystal Russianness? And, in what way? Gas chambers and ditches? And children from mixed marriages in which category?

            Yes, just the Russians need to be themselves. Organize in communities - for example, with churches, lead a traditional lifestyle, hold on to each other, give birth to many children, work on the ground, pull each other along. No need to pay attention to the official chatter of our common people - all this is a blizzard thoughtless because.
            As there Gogol wrote - "If at least one Russian village remains, I believe that Russia will be reborn."
            It will take 40-50 years and more or less healthy parts of Russian society will be attracted to this healthy part. And the rest itself will fall off like a husk.
            Just as Moses drove 40 years of Jews in the wilderness so that the unhealthy element would not enter the promised land.
            I believe that this will be so - otherwise there will be nothing in Russia.
          2. Grandfather Luka
            Grandfather Luka 15 January 2016 07: 01
            0
            No need to juggle the deck, I didn't offer anything, and about the nat. I didn’t ask the question as well as about the purity of the nation. It’s just the "people" whose false postulates I am trying to refute, as the only argument, pulled out the scarecrow of Nazism from mothballs, and are trying to scare them all the rams who are not able to add two and two.
            I was thinking yesterday about a dispute yesterday and came to the conclusion that people need to explain everything on their fingers. It is a pity that in a patriotic frenzy, many are not able to critically assess the current situation. The pendulum swung the other way, we again go to extremes. In general, I scribbled a couple of sheets, explaining the essence of what I see. Further in the comments I will state. Pay attention if interested. Thank.
            1. BARKHAN
              BARKHAN 15 January 2016 22: 16
              +1
              Quote: Grandfather Luka
              No need to juggle the deck, I didn't offer anything, and about the nat. I didn’t ask the question as well as about the purity of the nation. It’s just the "people" whose false postulates I am trying to refute, as the only argument, pulled out the scarecrow of Nazism from mothballs, and are trying to scare them all the rams who are not able to add two and two.
              I was thinking yesterday about a dispute yesterday and came to the conclusion that people need to explain everything on their fingers. It is a pity that in a patriotic frenzy, many are not able to critically assess the current situation. The pendulum swung the other way, we again go to extremes. In general, I scribbled a couple of sheets, explaining the essence of what I see. Further in the comments I will state. Pay attention if interested. Thank.

              Thank you hi I read with interest.
          3. nimboris
            nimboris 18 January 2016 09: 13
            0
            No way. In China, the Autonomous Region of Inner Mongolia, where the Shenehen Buryats live (who moved from Buryatia during the Civil War), still have retained their identity more than we, the Buryats. Old Mongolian writing and they are still in use, there is a TV channel in their native language. This is a word about assimilation. As far as I know, they are not forced to speak only Chinese, forbidding their own. The Chinese, on the contrary, are proud that they have 56 nationalities, and not just Han people. The Russian people are great in that they have a fraternal approach to other nations, and not in terms of domination over others.
        2. Aleksandr Tot
          Aleksandr Tot 20 January 2016 18: 57
          0
          Yes, Grandfather, you're right. I am not original in assessing your polemic with the "clever men" - do not argue with d * crayons, they will not notice the difference.
      6. Starley from the south
        Starley from the south 14 January 2016 20: 25
        -2
        [quote = avva2012] And, also, "you don't care where others are so smart?". [/ quote]

        Smart people don’t look at this site ... laughing laughing laughing Only Dedluka ... [quote = avva2012]

        [quote = Dedluka] the term was introduced by the Russians, the next stage is being observed now - the Russian is not an ethnic group, but a state of mind. Next will be the next stage - forget about the Russian World, yesterday you recognized yourself as Tatars. [/ quote]

        And who implemented this ... and will conduct the next stage, the question, of course, is interesting! The answer may be one - the Khazars are Jews, right? You already go to the end. But then another question arises: how then did we come to such a life under their leadership, why did not we become a seedy gay-European "power", on the contrary, we are moving in a completely different direction? Or maybe the answer lies in the wrong initial premises!
    3. little man
      little man 14 January 2016 18: 18
      +1
      I think it's not about praise, but about the fact that the author has presented very attractively what many of us feel. For many years of "new life", so tired of hearing and listening to what we are "not like" and "what", in contrast to us, all the rest of the world.
      1. Grandfather Luka
        Grandfather Luka 15 January 2016 08: 07
        +2
        The fact is that the author attractively portrayed what for many could justify his own insolvency. For the same part of the masses, the statement that patriotism is the last refuge of mediocrity is true.
  2. Starley from the south
    Starley from the south 14 January 2016 20: 11
    +3
    Quote: guzik007
    There are so many mixed marriages

    In my humble experience, there were a lot of mixed marriages, even during the times of the USSR, then I lived in Tajikistan. It is Muslims and Orthodox. Another thing is that Tajiks, for example, never married (did not give them out) to marry non-Muslims, and Tajiks willingly married Russian girls, although this was not widespread. And here, in the same Adygea, about a quarter to a third of the Adyghe people became related with the Russians.
  3. Asadullah
    Asadullah 14 January 2016 22: 37
    +3
    And it wrinkles them not childishly from us, from the recognition of their sinfulness


    Do not believe it! It doesn’t mean a single drop! laughing
    1. Grandfather Luka
      Grandfather Luka 15 January 2016 12: 42
      +2
      Asadullah, set off! They really reviewed the TV set and read too much, so they are inflating here. And in life, most of these "patriots" have not committed a single male act, not all of them, of course, but as a rule, worthy people do not pound their heels in the chest in public.
  4. Aleksandr Tot
    Aleksandr Tot 17 January 2016 00: 58
    0
    guzik007, "he broadcasts to a campaign from a dense zanyuhany wilderness", "such peremptory statements from people who do not chop anything on the topic" I did not come up with - you said.
    You said, "This is the difference with the greatness of our people from the Anglo-Saxons, who for the sake of peace had to cut out aborigines everywhere", "And he cuts them not childishly from us, from the realization of their sinfulness."
    Put yourself in a bunch and let there be understanding for you. Pavlovsky clowns, trained on GAV by smells are incomprehensible to you.
    Do not anger the truth - you blurted out: "I will say so, Russia is so big because the Russian ethnos is plastic and fluid, and every time it comes to new lands."
    Much crap for "truth". If only he wrote Russia with a capital letter.
    For the rest - I would have shoved into the Constitution a burden of responsibility for at least some kind of responsibility for fools.
  • kalibr
    kalibr 14 January 2016 07: 50
    18
    Stupid you and grandfather. I have exactly the same picture! And whom only in the ancestors are not. Moreover, the marriage took place before the revolution! I also got involved in the relatives of a traveling gypsy-konkrad-ha-ha, and my surname is my adoptive father. So that...
    1. Nagaibak
      Nagaibak 14 January 2016 08: 04
      +3
      kalibr "You stupid, but also grandfather."
      In its fervor, it's more like a schoolboy.
    2. Grandfather Luka
      Grandfather Luka 14 January 2016 08: 19
      -16 qualifying.
      Here are the gypsies and it is beneficial to represent the Russian gypsies.
    3. Heimdall49
      Heimdall49 14 January 2016 08: 45
      -8
      I also got involved in the relatives of a traveling gypsy-konkrad-ha-ha, and my surname is my adoptive father.

      And what is there to be proud of? To know that you don’t understand who and where from and to believe that everyone else is the same is very funny.
      In Malakhov’s program, such citizens speak, tell the whole society that their child is not theirs and other abomination - I heard a couple of times in the corner of my ear. Symptoms there I think are similar.
      1. Nagaibak
        Nagaibak 14 January 2016 09: 07
        +3
        Heimdall49 "And what is there to be proud of? To know that you do not understand who and where and to assume that everyone else is the same is very funny."
        You flush with such righteous anger.))) So easily condemn others.))) Do you know your pedigree yourself up to the seventh generation? On both sides of the mom and dad? I can tell you about your purebred race. I would like to listen.))) You’re less of Malakhov, look there they will tell you.
        1. Heimdall49
          Heimdall49 14 January 2016 09: 30
          -2
          You are full of such righteous anger.))) So easily condemn others.)))

          I’m not breathing anything, I’m just surprised at things that I don’t understand. Usually if a normal person in the family has problems hiding them. It's quite the opposite.
          Do you yourself know your pedigree to the seventh generation? On both sides of the mom and dad? Can you tell about your purebred race I would like to listen.))

          State peasants from the Vyatka province are all ancestors. Since the third quarter of the 19th century, I know approximately the pedigree. I also heard from the stories of relatives how they married and married in the village before the revolution. No one there from the bay of floundering for a visiting Tatar daughter would not have betrayed. It was only possible for gobby when at least somewhere, but only to get it off hand. But why be proud of it?
          Yes, and the Tatars were not there) Merya lived before.
          1. kalibr
            kalibr 14 January 2016 10: 21
            0
            You should be in the world of Harry Potter, to Woland Demort, by golly! You don’t know anything, but write! Well, what are these problems when you have a lot of people of different nationalities in your ancestors? How stupid to boast of purity of blood! Have you heard about inbreeding? Just marriages in one place for generations lead to genetic disorders and ... stupidity! So it’s necessary to rejoice that our clergy sometimes sinned on the side. This is not what determines nationality, but belonging to a certain culture! Pushkin was a quarter black, Lermontov a quarter Swede and what - they were not Russian people? But Bunin, and Tsiolkovsky, Dzhevetsky, the list is very long — their names are the pride of Russia, but there was not enough Russian blood in them!
            1. Heimdall49
              Heimdall49 14 January 2016 11: 15
              -2
              Pushkin was a quarter black

              As a mathematician by training, I affirm that he could not be a quarter black, since the black was only one of his great-grandfathers. )))
              Although I think it makes no difference to you. If a person has atrophied some feeling or property, then he does not observe it in other people either.
              You don't care a Swede, a gypsy, a Jew. Do not hesitate and write Lermontov as a Jew. What the hell does it matter, huh? All are good people)) Yesterday you are Soviet, today "dear Russians", tomorrow common people.
              1. Nagaibak
                Nagaibak 14 January 2016 12: 23
                +1
                Heimdall49 "Write Lermontov as a Jew."
                Lermontov from the Scots in Russian service. Rod Lermont in my opinion still exists in Scotland.
            2. Rivares
              Rivares 14 January 2016 20: 33
              +2
              Quote: kalibr
              Have you heard about inbreeding? Just marriages in one place for several generations lead to genetic disorders and ...

              Do not know the genetics do not meddle. Imbreeding is a mixture between relatives. The Slavs do not marry relatives for relatives.

              Quote: kalibr
              How stupid to boast of purity of blood!

              Métis is not exactly accepted. The Rus (and not only) the purity of blood ensures the unity of people as a nation, and therefore they are trying to implement the idea of ​​mestization of the nation that they are trying to destroy.
              1. kalibr
                kalibr 15 January 2016 08: 28
                +2
                When I worked in the village as a teacher from 1977 to 1980 for a year in the village of P. Berezovka, Kondolsky District, Penza Region, the region was mixed - Russians and Mordovians. The villages were mixed. In some there are more Mordovians, in others almost only Russians. There were many identical surnames and ... genetic deformities. There that imbreeding acted in all its glory! With my own eyes I saw and taught these children. And now for the fun part. In 14 years, children received a pastort. Mother Mordovia, father Mordvin, and the child writes in nationality - Russian! And thus RUSAM in one year became a whole class of Mordovians!
                1. Rivares
                  Rivares 15 January 2016 12: 50
                  +1
                  Quote: kalibr
                  .In some there are more Mordovians, in others almost only Russians. There were many identical surnames and ... genetic deformities. There that imbreeding acted in all its glory!

                  Why are you fixated on imbreeding? The level of radiation in this area is not measured? Maybe chemical production was nearby?
                  Quote: kalibr
                  Mother Mordovia, father Mordvin, and the child writes in nationality - Russian! And thus RUSAM in one year became a whole class of Mordovians!

                  Do not confuse Russes and Russians. You don’t know any traditions ... Traditionally, the Russians were called tribes under the auspices of the (military) Rus. Then gradually with Christianization and subsequent actions, these terms began to replace. Socialists generally declared that the Russians are bad and the people are now Soviet (They mixed Rus with Russians, then Russians with other peoples at the phonetic and conceptual levels)
                  By the way, how do you, as a writer of historical books, understand what stood before the Russian patrimonial aristocracy for knowledge of their ancestors up to the 7th tribe?
                2. kalibr
                  kalibr 15 January 2016 22: 04
                  +1
                  Quote: Rivares
                  By the way, how do you, as a writer of historical books, understand what stood before the Russian patrimonial aristocracy for knowledge of their ancestors up to the 7th tribe?


                  By God I don’t know what stood ... But I did not write about the Russians.
                3. Rivares
                  Rivares 15 January 2016 23: 46
                  +1
                  I have not minus you if that. In the Slavic traditions it was not to mix with alien peoples, and not to take relatives well + honor the ancestors. Therefore, knowledge of the pedigree ensured, on the one hand, purity in the Clan, on the other hand, excluded closely related marriages + identification of what certain laws in the clan know, i.e. definition of friend or foe. Do not use the Western aristocracy as an example. There were closely related marriages and the main idea they had was the rule of one clan over all monarchies + preservation of information "how to rule" within one clan.
                4. kalibr
                  kalibr 16 January 2016 13: 55
                  0
                  I know about the West, I can't say anything about "ours". I don’t know, I’ve never been interested in this question, but it’s obvious that it was. Because what you write is quite logical!
          2. Aleksandr Tot
            Aleksandr Tot 17 January 2016 01: 33
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            Caliber, do not tights with the entries in the passport. This is not the "fun part". The most interesting thing is being sold to us by supernumerary and non-standard agents of influence. Judging by your track record, you understand what I mean. Let's give a Caliber for non-calibrated voters!
      2. Grandfather Luka
        Grandfather Luka 15 January 2016 08: 41
        +2
        So you come to the point. The next step will be to declare them foreigners, and the Russians are completely slaves and even mixed with Tatars, the descendants of slaves with slavish psychology, as some liberal faces have already stated aloud. And here a new thesis appears: the Russian people are no more. Here lies a great danger to us.
        So, that all these newly introduced postulates from the evil one. Buy it - then you will regret bitterly.
      3. Aleksandr Tot
        Aleksandr Tot 17 January 2016 01: 21
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        Again OPSS- Lermontov - a quarter Swede? Caliber, your world at Potter level.
        I spit my daughter for arguing with Potter. You would be in the world of psychotherapy.
    4. Nagaibak
      Nagaibak 14 January 2016 10: 56
      +4
      Heimdall49 "State peasants from the Vyatka province are all ancestors."
      Congratulations! Well, who should argue on similar topics just not for you.))) Of course, the Vyatka people are Russian. But ... they went from the earplugs. And these are robbers, free people, like Cossacks. They went camping. And whom they brought from the campaigns and whom they married, only God knows.
      From wiki
      "1374. Hike on 90 ears. For the third time they took the city of Bolgar (not far from Kazan), then went down and took Sarai itself - the capital of the Golden Horde.; Part of the ushkuiniks went down to the south, the other went east; Khlynov (Vyatka) "
      Before them, the Mari lived there and recaptured the territory. What do you think a military detachment founds a city on a foreign land, they carry women with them?))) You can't bring everyone for everyone, that's why the local natives were good. But they founded the city and the veche republic. In the next century, the Moscow army came and defeated their republic and army. And the Moscow cavalry was full of Tatars and the descendants of the Tatars, let's call them that. I’m not saying that they fucked someone during the war, but they rarely do without it. Some of the Vyatka residents were evicted near Moscow, some went to the Volga and became Cossacks.))) This is only one moment in their history. In general, the Vyatka residents interacted normally with the Finno-Ugric peoples. My mother-in-law is from the Vyatka province. Do you know who "Varash" is? It's a kite or an eagle there. So the word came to them from the Komi and remained. Do you speak Vyatka? Samustil, Likhostil, Basco is an empty phrase for you or not? If not, that's good.))) You know your ancestry before the 19th century, is it good, but before? That's what I mean. And Merya did not live there. This is the Golden Ring within those boundaries, I guess.
      1. Sorokin
        Sorokin 14 January 2016 11: 25
        +1
        Yes, and the Komi-Permyaks, the same Finno-Ugric peoples, only through the forest stood the Pelym kingdom?
      2. Heimdall49
        Heimdall49 14 January 2016 11: 38
        +2
        Before them the Mari lived there and recaptured the territory.

        But Meria did not live there.

        Meria is a people belonging to the indigenous population of the Volga region. The closest in origin are Mari.

        So if I lied, it’s not deadly. For me it’s one and the same thing, that measure, that Marie.
        I can answer only one thing - the multimillion-dollar Slavic people assimilated and / or destroyed many Finnish, Turkic peoples, who were in an absolute minority to the Slavic.
        No one here is fighting for absolute racial purity, but have a conscience - these are the aliens Russified (those who survived), and not the Russians become insane. Just because the Slavs were incomparably larger and they were incomparably better quality in all aspects.
        Here is a quote from the famous pre-revolutionary writer Melnikov-Pechersky. Tell him about the Westerners in Ukraine and call him a damned racist))
        And fire me for Christ's sake from your sovdepovskoy propaganda of the international.)) Be at least a hobbit, if you want))
        Russian people, having occupied a foreign land, settled in it along the roads, along the roads. They did not climb into the distance, so that among the hostile tribes they would be ready just in case, closer to each other. Ways, roads - the rivers were then. And hitherto only along the rivers are traces of old Russian settlement visible. On the Volga, along the Oka River, along the Sura River and along smaller rivers people live completely different than far away from them - growing taller, slimmer, prettier, stronger, mind richer than their neighbors - long since Russified Mordovians, which now almost completely forgot and ancient faith, and native language, and the traditions of their antiquity. In some places, the Mordvins still retain their nationality, but with each generation it grows more and more bright. So between Sura and Oka. Two hundred miles below the Sura mouth on both sides of the Volga, aliens live entirely, they do not grow brown: Cheremis, Chuvash, Tatars. And below those places on the upland coast of the Volga you will meet their settlements, but from the Samara bow to Astrakhan, the Russian people live entirely, only near Saratov, on the best lands of the wheat kingdom, the Germans settled; and they live among the Russians the same life that they lived in their distant homeland, on the coasts of the Rhine and Elba ...
        1. Nagaibak
          Nagaibak 14 January 2016 12: 20
          +1
          Heimdall49 "So if I lied, it’s not fatal. For me, it’s the same thing, what is measuring, what is mari.
          I can answer only one thing - the multimillion-dollar Slavic people assimilated and / or destroyed many Finnish, Turkic peoples, who were in an absolute minority to the Slavic.
          Nobody here is fighting for absolute racial purity, but have a conscience - it is the foreigners who have become Russified (those who survived), and not the Russians who have become obsessed. "
          And who writes that they are addicted?))) I basically tried to explain the same to you. As a result, we came to this conclusion.
          Only the first.
          The Russians did not destroy anyone.
          2. Russians are no better and no worse than other nations.
          3. The International is apparently your path if you mention it, although I don’t see anything bad in it.
          1. Heimdall49
            Heimdall49 14 January 2016 12: 33
            +1
            . As a result, we came to this conclusion.

            Well no. You have a tendency to drag every Russian into the ancestors of the Tatar. As a pattern, understand?
            And my position is that maybe there are Russians who have Tatars in their ancestors - but this is an exception. Maybe in the 150 million people - and 10 million, and 20 and 30. But this is all an exception. And there is nothing wrong with the Tatar / Finnish blood in the veins of the Russian people while it is there in the minority. But when it becomes a majority, it will no longer be the Russian people. And our country then bites.
            Russians are no better and no worse than other nations.

            In a spherical vacuum, of course, everyone is equal. But in a country called Russia, it’s better and more important.
          2. Nagaibak
            Nagaibak 14 January 2016 15: 42
            +1
            Heimdall49 "No, no. You have a tendency to drag every Russian into a Tatar ancestor."
            No, it’s your inferiority complex))) as I look.
        2. Heimdall49
          Heimdall49 14 January 2016 12: 54
          -3
          Russians didn’t destroy anyone

          Yes - they kissed everyone in a hickey.
          I remember I heard a Mari proverb from the Vyatka province. Something like - "Let the Russian spend the night in the house, you won't find the house in the morning"))
          What do you think she is talking about?
        3. Nagaibak
          Nagaibak 14 January 2016 16: 05
          +2
          Heimdall49 "Yes - they kissed everyone passionately.
          I remember I heard a Mari proverb from the Vyatka province. Something like - "Let the Russian spend the night in the house, you won't find the house in the morning"))
          What do you think it is about? "
          If you literally understand everything, maybe so.))) Then sadness.
          1. The Mari resisted the Russians under Ivan the Terrible for much longer and more actively than the Tatars.
          2.After which, literally a couple of decades later, they participated in the militia against the Poles along with the Tatars, Chuvashs, etc.
          3. A lot of Mari simply assimilated, or speaking of your Russified.
          So understand how you know.)))
          And you know the Mari proverbs are different:
          "The cow ate the book of the Mari.
          The Mari’s mind goes three days later, the Tatar’s three days ahead, the Russian’s exactly the same.
          With Tatar on the way I will be Tatar with Russian I will be Russian.
          But Ukrainian))) Chemerisin, like ours, has a fate with a flaw.
          Well, and ours. On one side of the cheremis, on the other, beware. "
          Bakhtin A.G. Mari Territory in the 13-16 centuries. Yoshkar-Ola 2012.
          So, then all were dashing and rare chronicles, say in the 15-16 centuries they did not report that evil cheremis came.))) Well, this applies more to the meadow Mari. But those Mountain Mari voluntarily became part of Russia. So that...
        4. Heimdall49
          Heimdall49 14 January 2016 16: 35
          -1
          You turn on the logic - here you are a Finn, for example, maybe even Finno-Finnish) You live in your village, fish, there comes a bunch of Russian men with axes and women, settle on your territory and seize your land and property.
          Or even worse - a crowd of scumbags with sabers arrives and hangs on your family a feeble tribute, they rape wives and daughters.
          What will you do?
          A /. run to hell. It was like that - the foreigners fled. Can you prove the opposite?
          B /. Submit / assimilate (partially give their women to Russians, land, property). a filthy alternative, but was common.
          AT/. To fight and be destroyed as a result. Can you prove that there were no such cases? If yes, then you are clairvoyant.
          G. / Joyfully enter into an equal and multinational / multiconfessional family of the peoples of Russia laughing Living using all civil rights and freedoms)) Well, this is nonsense for schoolchildren.

          All three points have the right to life, and all three have undoubtedly been embodied in reality more than once.
          So the question is closed. For example, you can read how in Siberia and the Far East, Cossacks gathered yasak to the tsar. They cut and burned.
        5. kayman4
          kayman4 14 January 2016 17: 18
          +4
          Quote: Heimdall49

          All three points have the right to life, and all three have undoubtedly been embodied in reality more than once.


          He shed a lot of tears - but the Russian explorers never stepped on their throats - more than half of the Cossacks were ethically not Russian, but local. And yes, about the massacre - we, as it were, did not trade in cholera odeals as Transoceanic "democrats"

          Well, the bare result - where are the Indians of the United States and where the native peoples of our great and huge.

          Compare then not what?
        6. Heimdall49
          Heimdall49 14 January 2016 20: 21
          -1
          Well, of course, Western Europeans treated the Aboriginal people incomparably harder. But this does not automatically make Russian pioneers cute innocent lambs.
          This is life and there is nothing to be ashamed of. It is a shame for the United States to hide a little - "And you have blacks lynched", etc. smile
          Let them lynch - these are their own problems.
          more than half of the Cossacks were not ethically Russian but local

          Well this is an absolutely unprovable statement. Wishlist yours. We can just as well claim that they are aliens.
        7. Nagaibak
          Nagaibak 14 January 2016 20: 54
          +1
          Heimdall49 "Well, this is an absolutely unprovable statement. Your lovers. You could just as well say that they are aliens."
          There is nothing to prove there. There are numbers and documents. More than half, of course, were, but not in the east. In general, there was a lot of it for sure. In the Don KV there were Kalmyks. In Astrakhan there are a lot of Kalmyks))) there were few Russians in my opinion.))) There were a lot of Ural Tatars. At different times in different ways. Orenburg HF Tatars of Muslims are about 10 percent, about 8% of Nagaybaks, I don’t remember Kalmyks, but a lot. It was Mordovian. But probably less than in the Siberian army there were about 10% Tatars. Terek army of Ossetians. A Trans-Baikal about a third of the Buryats and a few Evens seem.
          An excerpt from the History of the Khopersky regiment - the oldest in the Kuban Cossack Army: “On July 27, 1775 there was a census of the male population of the Khopersky regiment, which turned out to be 1513 Cossacks — serving, fit for service, old men and youngsters. By nationality, they consisted of: 775 Cossack Cherkasy (Cossacks), 208 Persians, 80 Kalmyks and 6 other foreign groups ”- this is how the composition of the Khopersky regiment esaul Tolstov determines.
          “The regiment’s combat strength was numbered: 15 foremen and the top 500 Cossacks,” adds Tolstov.
          “Until the age of 45, a Cossack carried regimental service, then 5 years of internal service, and only in the 50th year he received his resignation.”
          “In 1816, 109 POWs and Abazin prisoners of war were assigned to the Khopersky regiment.” Who are “Abazins” - V.G. Tolstov does not explain, but it was apparently the Persians or one of the mountain tribes of the North Caucasus283. ”
          So something like this ...
        8. Heimdall49
          Heimdall49 14 January 2016 21: 06
          0
          The comrade spoke about pioneers, to whom the inhabitants of the late 18th and 19th centuries are unlikely to belong.
          You give the alignment about the 16th-17th centuries, then I will believe it. Figures and documents.
          Although I guess that you and I will give free rein to Ermak and Dezhnev in the Buryats or Kazakhs write. But dismiss these theories - I've heard them already.)
        9. Nagaibak
          Nagaibak 14 January 2016 21: 28
          +1
          Heimdall49 "You give me an alignment about the 16th - 17th centuries, then I will believe it. Figures and documents."
          And you think that there was a completely different alignment. It seems to me that the national composition was recorded only in the imperial period, and before that, everyone did not care. Here on the Don and surnames such as the Evreinovs, but the Gruzinovs, etc. remained.
          According to the Ural army, the earliest mention in 1723 was when the state began to sort out somehow free Cossack societies. The Ural army at that time was quite free, so in the 17th century their picture could be the same. About the features of the ethnic composition of the Yaits Cossacks in
          XVIII century testifies, for example, such a document as
          the number of interrogation of Yaitsky Cossacks who arrived in the capital in 1721
          military affairs. " According to the Cossacks, their "great-grandfathers and grandfathers ... then
          there are the first egg Cossacks, they came and settled here on Yaik-
          the river ... having gathered Russian from the Don and from other cities. And the Tatars
          from Crimea and from the Kuban and from other nations ... "95
          .
          At first there were no more than 40 Cossacks, then the army
          began to be replenished intensely with runaway, “Russians and foreigners,
          who lived badly in Russia or because of their wide
          rampant, or on poverty and oppression the governor and
          other authorities, and then as a result of persecution erected by
          Tyva zealots of the old faith ”97. Therefore, the troops were
          “The most diverse elements - Don Cossacks, Moscow
          archers, Samara Cossacks, Nizhny Novgorod posad people,
          Voronezh Pushkari, Belgorod Cherkasy, Simbirsk state
          Darevsky gunners, Samara nobles, raising, comb
          Cossacks, Poltava Cossacks, Kalmyks, Tatars, Mordovians, Chuva-
          Shi, Votyaki. In addition, there were Swedes, Poles, Germans
          tsy, Finns, Bashkirs, Turks, Kyrgyz, Kalmyks, etc., and it’s difficult
          name any people who would not give even a small

          94 History of the Cossacks of Asian Russia. Yekaterinburg, 1995. P.220.
          95 RGVIA. F. 13. Op. 1/107. St. 30. D.10. L.23.
          96 Ibid. L.24.
          97Vitevsky V.N. Egg army // Russian archive. 1879. No. 3. S.288. Site of electronic publications and materials of SF SPbGUP
          38
          grain in the composition of the Yaitsky army98
          Merzlikina O.G.
          “ALONG THE URALS OF THE COAST ...”: Ethnosocial
          History of the Yaitsk (Ural) Cossacks (end of the XVI
          - second half of the XNUMXth centuries): Monograph. Samara:
          Publishing house of SSPU, 2006 .-- 224 p.
          "The idea of ​​the ethnosocial composition of the Yaik Cossack
          wa in the first quarter of the XVIII century. give and the results of preserved
          in the census of the RGVIA conducted in 1723 by Colonel Zakhar-
          you m
          99
          According to the data, the majority of Cossacks,
          going to Yaik at the end of the XVII century., came from the central
          n provinces of Russia (Moscow, Tambov, Ryazan,
          Vladimir, Simbirsk, etc.). Ethnically,
          according to A. B. Karpov, in 1723 out of 5771 Cossacks only
          186 people were of non-Russian origin (Kalmyks, Tatars,
          Bashkirs, Poles, Mordvinians, Swedes, Nogais, Finns, etc.).
          Visual representation of the specifics of ethnic composition
          Yaitsky Cossacks in the 20s. XVIII century gives table 1.
          Table 1
          Non-Russian population as part of the Yaitsky Cossack army100
          No. Nationality Number of people
          1. Tatars 70
          2. Bashkirs 49
          3. Kalmyks 43
          4. Poles 29
          5. Mordva 7
          6. Swedes 5
          7. Chuvashs 1
          8. Turks 1
          9. The Germans 1

          98 ibid. C. 289.
          99 RGVIA. F.13. Op. 1/ 107. St. 23. E.3. total - 1015 l.
          100 Ibid. Website of electronic publications and materials of SF SPbGUP
          39
          As can be seen from the table, the largest number among pre-
          the non-Russian population of the Cossacks
          Tatars and Bashkirs. This provision was due, in the first
          turn, the fact of living in neighboring territories. "
          Decree Op. Page 38.
        10. Heimdall49
          Heimdall49 14 January 2016 21: 37
          0
          And you think that there was a completely different alignment. It seems to me that the national composition was recorded only in the imperial period, and before that, everyone did not care. Here on the Don and surnames such as the Evreinovs, but the Gruzinovs, etc. remained.

          I say goodbye to you. It was very interesting to talk, only you all pull one bagpipe - everywhere you bring Tatars and Bashkirs. Boring smile But I understand from your pseudonym that this is inevitable. ) I do not deny the merits of the Tatars in the formation of the state, but you will moderate the proportions))
      3. Nagaibak
        Nagaibak 14 January 2016 21: 35
        +2
        Heimdall49 "Although I guess that give free rein to you and Ermak and Dezhnev in the Buryats or Kazakhs will write down. But dismiss these theories - I've heard them already.)
        Dezhnev’s wife, by the way, was a Yakut. Even the name is known, google and dress. I won’t say anything about the Buryats and Kazakhs, but the Tatars in the detachments of the pioneers could well be. And the Cossacks whose mothers were the Yakuts, were sure to be. So, something like that. I leave you to revel in your very best Russian Russianness. Bye Bye.
  • Nagaibak
    Nagaibak 14 January 2016 20: 25
    +2
    = Heimdall49 "So the question is closed. For example, you can read how in Siberia and the Far East the Cossacks collected yasak for the tsar. They cut and burned."
    This is you tell foreigners. I know my story.)))
  • Rivares
    Rivares 14 January 2016 20: 45
    +3
    Quote: Heimdall49
    You turn on the logic - here you are a Finn, for example, maybe even Finno-Finnish) You live in your village, fish, there comes a bunch of Russian men with axes and women, settle on your territory and seize your land and property.

    You are a completely uneducated person. The Russian ethnos is 20-30% genetically "Fino-Ugric". And they live peacefully among themselves and help each other. You will collide with your neighbor in your conclusions.
  • Heimdall49
    Heimdall49 14 January 2016 20: 55
    -1
    The Russian ethnos is 20-30% genetically "Fino-Ugric".

    I agree and what now - to lie? To paint that the Slavs with the Finns under the arm walked their whole lives?
    It happens that we walked, but it happened that we cut ourselves - everything happened. To deceive is not a sign of education.
  • Rivares
    Rivares 15 January 2016 00: 33
    0
    So forgive the Rus fought with the Rus? We fought, and why should we talk about this at every step? Strength is in unity.
  • Heimdall47
    Heimdall47 15 January 2016 15: 11
    0
    Quote: Rivares
    So forgive the Rus fought with the Rus? We fought, and why should we talk about this at every step? Strength is in unity.

    I don’t understand what you mean.

    I was talking about the fact that the Slavs slaughtered the Finns, the Rus slaughtered the Slavs (and traded them quite widely) - Prince Svyatoslav Slavic tribe Vyatichi, for example, tormented.

    There is nothing criminal in modern times - everything is overgrown with past. We have all been around for a long time - and your beloved Russes, both Slavs and Finns, merged into a single Russian people.
    So what are the problems? It’s ridiculous to build children and pretend to be the original Slavic-Finnish friendship. Anything has happened - we are still with our closest relatives Poles on knives, what can we say about Finno-Finns.
  • Aleksander
    Aleksander 14 January 2016 10: 07
    +5
    Quote: kalibr
    I have exactly the same picture! And whom only in the ancestors are not.

    So for the majority it is so, especially closer to the outskirts of the Empire. And I'm a mixture lol : Pole-Lithuanian-Ukrainian-Russian. Wife: German-Moldovan-Russian. Children, so generally .... request But we all, of course-русские. smile
    1. Sunseich
      Sunseich 14 January 2016 11: 27
      +2
      of course nonsense
      I’m kind of: Russian-Polish- (maybe even Jewish and Cygano) - Belarusian)))
      So what? Does it somehow interfere with my life? yes nonsense!
      and his wife’s family came here because of the Urals. Anyone can be there at all: from Tatars, Mongols to Chinese))
  • Grandfather Luka
    Grandfather Luka 14 January 2016 10: 27
    -9
    But Kalibr, it drove itself very trendy, you can still Kalibr kaspiysky, patriots stubborn envy.
    1. Nagaibak
      Nagaibak 14 January 2016 12: 32
      +5
      DedLuka "And Kalibr, driven by that very trendy, you can still Kalibr kaspiysky, the patriots will get jealous."
      It drove you.))) You decided to pin it up, well, in vain ...))) Caliber is a respected visitor to the site, the author of many articles.
  • Aleksandr Tot
    Aleksandr Tot 17 January 2016 01: 12
    +1
    "You stupid, and still a grandfather", and also kalibr.
    "I have exactly the same picture." "gypsy-konkrad-ha-ha". "Moreover, the marriage took place", "And a passing gypsy-konkrad-ha-ha got mixed up in the relatives."
    Caliber, you dropped your genetics with the enthusiasm of a moron.
    Skirting is not your level.
  • oldseaman1957
    oldseaman1957 14 January 2016 07: 53
    +5
    Quote: Grandfather Luka
    The article is vile. The author is hardly Russian,
    - Here you, "grandfather", are very wrong. The article is just about us RUSSIANS! And Belyakov clearly described both our throwing and our pain for Russia. And the fact that we can't get away from it anywhere. Many - for the money, and for many - for the state of mind, maybe it is rotten behind the hill, everything is so sterile to vomit.
    1. Grandfather Luka
      Grandfather Luka 14 January 2016 09: 49
      0
      Therefore, it can sometimes spit in our entrances, etc., because the cleanliness of many causes discomfort.
    2. Aleksandr Tot
      Aleksandr Tot 20 January 2016 19: 11
      0
      Otvetka oldseaman1957 - "The article is just about us, RUSSIAN!", "Our pain".
      Where is "your pain" in this opus. Are you Russian ?. You dress up for them, Russians.
  • Sunseich
    Sunseich 14 January 2016 08: 04
    +5
    "Muslims and Orthodox Christians have never mixed blood, the church did not allow"
    so note:
    Until the 17th century, the difference between the everyday Muslim and Christian was so small that they were related. They could calmly visit each other's religious buildings easily. And until the 16th century - and that whip)) milking each other served))
  • Nagaibak
    Nagaibak 14 January 2016 08: 14
    11
    DedLuka "Muslims and Orthodox Christians have never mixed blood."
    It is nonsense. They baptized in their faith and married at least the Tatars, at least the Udmurts. And get married the same way.
    No less if not more stupid to say that there were no Russians left at all.)))
    1. wasjasibirjac
      wasjasibirjac 14 January 2016 10: 52
      +3
      Quote: Nagaibak
      DedLuka "Muslims and Orthodox Christians have never mixed blood."
      It is nonsense. They baptized in their faith and married at least the Tatars, at least the Udmurts. And get married the same way.
      No less if not more stupid to say that there were no Russians left at all.)))
      and even in Turkish women. while the children continued to consider themselves Russian. and others considered them Russian.
  • Heimdall49
    Heimdall49 14 January 2016 08: 24
    -28 qualifying.
    I agree, the article is lousy. Russian is Russian, and Tatar is Tatar. It’s stupid to boast that your grandparents sinned in a dope with foreigners / Gentiles. Looks like they were without a clan tribe or faith.
    Because it is hardly possible to imagine that in a Russian village they would give out a daughter from a normal strong family to marry a Gentile.
    If this was the case, then keep quiet. But it’s even more stupid to project this situation on the whole people and set it as the norm. But now this is in the order of things, unfortunately, people like to put their ulcers on public display and comb again.
    1. Nagaibak
      Nagaibak 14 January 2016 08: 57
      +8
      Heimdall49 "It is stupid to boast that your grandmother or grandfather has sinned foolishly with foreigners / gentiles."
      Is it a sin to marry and marry?))) In Ukraine, the most screaming about their purity and exceptionalism are zapadentsy. And who just didn’t mean them.
      1. Heimdall49
        Heimdall49 14 January 2016 09: 16
        -7
        Is it a sin to marry and marry?

        Of course not. But everything has its own time and place.
        If a person from a normal family marries an alcoholic, this is unlikely to be a moment of pride for his close relatives. And his children are unlikely to be proud of their mother.
        If a person from an alcoholic family marries his own kind, this is perfectly normal and permissible.
        Likewise, a church-minded Christian marries a faithful Muslim woman. This is nonsense.
        In Ukraine, zapadents shout most of all about their purity and exclusivity

        Let Ukraine do what it wants - everyone decides his own problems. It is not necessary to drag Ukraine and Hitler everywhere.
        1. avva2012
          avva2012 14 January 2016 09: 32
          +5
          Likewise, a church-minded Christian marries a faithful Muslim woman. This is nonsense.
          What is the question? The Orthodox becomes Orthodox, and all, get married after confession. Or, do you, in general, against such marriages, just give alcoholics as an example?
          1. Heimdall49
            Heimdall49 14 January 2016 09: 42
            -4
            Orthodox becomes Orthodox, and all, get married after confession

            I don’t argue - it’s possible.
            But I meant "faithful" - this one who will not become Orthodox, but is completely devoted to Islam. that is, as a synonym for the word "churched".
            1. avva2012
              avva2012 14 January 2016 09: 57
              +4
              If a person from a normal family marries an alcoholic, this is unlikely to be a moment of pride for his close relatives. And his children are unlikely to be proud of their mother.
              Ah, then what? To nations, what does it have to do? I understand that there are clean and not so?
              1. Heimdall49
                Heimdall49 14 January 2016 10: 28
                +1
                I was not going to draw direct analogies between alcoholism and someone's religion. Misunderstood me)
                I understand that there are clean and not so?

                Well it goes without saying. As people are smart and not very, full and not so, so are nations. Or do you think that the nation of the state of Zimbabwe is equally developed, for example, the Hungarian nation?
                1. avva2012
                  avva2012 14 January 2016 10: 38
                  0
                  Or do you think that the nation of the state of Zimbabwe is equally developed, for example, the Hungarian nation?
                  For their living conditions, yes.
                  Hungarian civilized, throw in there and how much he will live?
                2. Heimdall49
                  Heimdall49 14 January 2016 11: 04
                  +3
                  For their living conditions, yes.
                  Hungarian civilized, throw in there and how much he will live?

                  Some kind of degenerative logic.
                  The Dutch moved to Africa and founded their own republic. Do you think they lived worse than the blacks there? South Africa Do you think blacks are founded?
                  And let the blacks from Zimbabwe move now to Europe and it will be wonderful there because they are kissed in the ass at the moment and give benefits. What - this is the reason to consider them more complete than the Europeans according to your logic, since you say that the civilized European in Zimbabwe will not live now, but the Negro will live in Europe?
                  One of the signs of the usefulness of the people is precisely the ability to create their own civilization, and not to ride with a bare ass with a spear in the desert.
                3. avva2012
                  avva2012 14 January 2016 11: 29
                  -1
                  One of the signs of a people’s usefulness is precisely the ability to create their own civilization
                  Some kind of degenerative logic.
                  Yes, logic is a tricky thing. From which side you look at it, from that side you turn. Do you really think that having a computer makes you civilized and full-fledged?
                  Maybe the definition of a person somehow manifests itself in another?
                  I never thought that this logic, after all, survived from the Third Reich to the present day.
                4. Heimdall49
                  Heimdall49 14 January 2016 13: 00
                  +1
                  I understand that you want to immediately jump to the Third Reich and Adolf, but I'm not in a hurry there.
                  You asked
                  Hungarian civilized, throw in there and how much he will live?

                  I replied that he would live happily ever after if he was in a group and they would have firearms and tools.
                  But the negro in traditional Europe (well, about 100 - 150 years ago) will be extremely uncomfortable to feel. If he would have survived, he led a miserable existence.
                  Do you agree that this criterion of usefulness is not in favor of blacks? If so, then you can move on to other criteria. )))
          2. Chiropractor
            Chiropractor 14 January 2016 13: 48
            0
            Quote: Heimdall49
            As people are smart and not very, full and not so, so are nations. Or do you think that the nation of the state of Zimbabwe is equally developed, for example, the Hungarian nation?


            Stand!
            About inferior nations, we heard about 80 years ago - this time.
            You are replacing concepts - these are two! You compare the nation (which is in Ukraine, and in Hungary, and in Romania, and in the USA) and the state !!!
          3. Heimdall49
            Heimdall49 14 January 2016 14: 52
            0
            About inferior nations, we heard about 80 years ago - this time

            Why 80? Negroes were traded centuries ago and everything was clear to everyone. Similarly with the Jews. On the Third Reich the light did not converge in a wedge. People lived before that.
            You are comparing a nation

            I compare the state of Zimbabwe inhabited by blacks (possibly of different tribes) and the state of Hungary, inhabited by Hungarians (although there are other intersperses there). For example, in 1981.
            You can compare the overall Negroid and Caucasoid - what are the doubts?
    2. Nagaibak
      Nagaibak 14 January 2016 10: 26
      +1
      Heimdall49 "But I meant" faithful "- this one who will not become Orthodox, but is completely devoted to Islam. I mean, as a synonym for the word" churched. "
      So write right away. And then you compare with drunks. At the end of the 19th century, there was a large percentage of Germans in the fleet under the tsar, about much more than half, probably. Of these, 80% were Orthodox. These Germans were Russian officers - you probably don’t think so.))) Give you the purity of blood.))) Look at the names of the white emigrants there are far from all the Golitsins. But Ungernov more than enough.))) And all the Russian officers.
      1. Heimdall49
        Heimdall49 14 January 2016 10: 38
        -1
        You do not bother all in one pile.
        There are Europeans who are essentially the same Russians, but with a different upbringing, and there are Asians who have a sharp difference from the above. And the same German by blood, brought up in Russia in our culture, has no difference from an ordinary Rusak.
        1. Nagaibak
          Nagaibak 14 January 2016 12: 35
          +1
          Heimdall49 "There are Europeans, who are essentially the same Russians, only with a different upbringing, and there are Asians who have a sharp contrast to the above."
          Aristocrats with Turkic surnames Yusupov, Yepanchins the worse the Germans? Writers Turgenev and Aksakov?))) Russified and all.
        2. Heimdall49
          Heimdall49 14 January 2016 13: 04
          +2
          Well, yes - Russified. They are Russian people, the foreign blood of their ancestors was repeatedly replaced over the centuries by Slavic. So what?
          Can you imagine that the Tatar Khan was baptized and then became the Russian Tsar? I think he would have been slaughtered soon even if he had been Genghis three times. And the Germans Peter Fedorovich, Catherine - please.
          Because the Germans are one thing, and the Tatars have a completely different alignment in Russia.
        3. Nagaibak
          Nagaibak 14 January 2016 16: 18
          +1
          Heimdall49 "Can you imagine that the Tatar khan was baptized and then became the Russian tsar? I think he would have been slaughtered soon, even if he was Chingizid three times."
          Hmm ... I don’t think so. In general, it mattered to which boyar clan you belong and what is the significance of this clan. And there, even if you are a Buddhist. There Simeon Bekbulatovich, according to the will of Grozny, sat on the throne for 11 months and sowed eyebrows and nothing. You just need to understand that in the 14016 century, many Tatars or Turks came to the service and became part of our aristocracy. The 18-19th century were German centuries. That's all. Everything was assimilated normally by both Tatars and Germans.
        4. Heimdall49
          Heimdall49 14 January 2016 16: 27
          +2
          Simeon Bekbulatovich was a cardboard fool who existed while Grozny wanted.
          In general, it mattered to which boyar clan you belong

          It mattered what kind of tribe you belong to.
          Hmm ... I don't think so

          Well, then they agree that the Germans do not have to equal the Germans with the Tatar in Russia. Thank you anyway.
        5. Nagaibak
          Nagaibak 14 January 2016 20: 59
          +3
          = Heimdall49 "Well, it means we agree that there is no need to equate a German with a Tatar in Russia. And thanks for that."
          Tatars entered the Russian aristocracy and the nobility and there were many of them there. Therefore, do not invent. This is a reinforced concrete fact.
        6. Heimdall49
          Heimdall49 14 January 2016 21: 21
          -1
          The fact is that not a single Tatar could become a Russian Tsar. There was one - Boris Godunov, he was remembered from the Murza all the time of his reign. He finished badly.
          And the Germans could and did become more than once.
          I’m not talking about the nobility.
  • little man
    little man 14 January 2016 18: 39
    +2
    read about the haplogroup of peoples. Very interesting. Roughly speaking, Chinese and Finns, Europeans and American Indians have the same father. The Russians do not have a drop of Mongolian blood (a question about the 300-year-old yoke), but the Kazakhs have it. And the Kirghiz are generally Aryans. The Japanese have the blood of the Mongols and the Chinese, but their own, the so-called Japanese, does not. All dogs descended either from the Chinese wolf or from the jackal (some are hunters, others have been "jackals" all their lives), the first people to tame the dog were Finnish hunters. All major religions in the world are based on one haplogroup. In our country, the purest blood of the Bashkirs is they are "brothers" to the inhabitants of Europe. And the Crimean Tatars are divided into three groups by blood, customs, and language, they are united only by the Crimea, like all of us Russia. Friends, and in the 14th generation, they say, all people are relatives.
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  • Rivares
    Rivares 15 January 2016 00: 49
    0
    Quote: the connoisseur
    And the Kyrgyz - in general, the arias

    The Kyrgyz themselves said it, Or did the scientist who discovered one of the genes in them decide to call him Aryan for fun?
    Quote: the connoisseur
    Roughly speaking, the Chinese and Finns, Europeans and Indians of America have one father.

    Do not be rude to us. Complete nonsense ..
    Quote: the connoisseur
    In our country, the purest blood of the Bashkirs is they are "brothers" to the inhabitants of Europe.

    Bredyatina. Compare the haplogroups of Europe and the Bashkirs. Europe is generally not homogeneous, and the concept of blood purity implies "uniformity" in genetics. In general, a comparison of who has a purer blood in a Chinese and a Jew speaks of a comparison of the genetic integrity of nations and not of the quality of the gene pool.
  • kalibr
    kalibr 14 January 2016 10: 24
    +2
    Catherine the Great, who was baptized? And by birth? Crossed!
    1. Heimdall49
      Heimdall49 14 January 2016 11: 23
      +2
      She was German, who was reforged into Russian. I answered above

      You do not bother all in one pile.
      There are Europeans who are essentially the same Russians, but with a different upbringing, and there are Asians who have a sharp difference from the above. And the same German by blood, brought up in Russia in our culture, has no difference from an ordinary Rusak.
  • Nagaibak
    Nagaibak 14 January 2016 10: 20
    +1
    Heimdall49 "Likewise, a church-going Christian marries a devout Muslim woman. This is nonsense."
    There were no marriages outside the church. They accepted Orthodoxy and got married without any problems. So do not la la. Whether you were Orthodox or not. And if he took it forward.
  • Sorokin
    Sorokin 14 January 2016 11: 33
    +2
    Perked up You explain to us how I angered God if I married a Muslim woman and live with her happily and raise children?
    1. Heimdall49
      Heimdall49 14 January 2016 11: 52
      +1
      I was talking specifically about church Christians / Muslims - those who go to church / mosque and recognize the establishment of their religion. If you are just like that, then you cannot have questions for me. If not, then what more to talk about?
  • 72jora72
    72jora72 14 January 2016 18: 27
    +2
    Likewise, a church-minded Christian marries a faithful Muslim woman. This is nonsense.
    What an amazing denseness !!!!!
  • hrapon
    hrapon 14 January 2016 09: 08
    +5
    Quote: Heimdall49
    I agree, the article is lousy .... It’s stupid to boast that your grandparents sinned foolishly with foreigners / Gentiles. Looks like they were without a clan tribe or faith.
    Because it is hardly possible to imagine that in a Russian village they would give out a daughter from a normal strong family to marry a Gentile.
    If this was the case, then keep quiet. But it’s even more stupid to project this situation on the whole people and set it as the norm.


    Dear sirs, DedLuke and Heimdall49, wrap your racially pure two-dimensional consciousness in a piece of paper from the just eaten "Sinkers" and scamper under the bench. There you will mix the "slops" and push the ideas of your "Fuhrer".

    They do not grow brown with blood, but with the whole being, every cell, Spirit and Soul. However, you do not understand this.
    1. Grandfather Luka
      Grandfather Luka 14 January 2016 18: 25
      +1
      Today the trend is this, to thaw not with blood. Just as Putin put the bourgeois in a stall with his foreign policy, all at once all began to grow thin. About ten years ago I don’t remember this. Many, on the contrary, were looking for relatives of Poles, Germans, etc., so as not to banish for the blue-legged. Are you not one of them? Tomorrow, God forbid, the situation will change, so you look and Russian-soul will be reduced.
  • Grandfather Luka
    Grandfather Luka 14 January 2016 09: 17
    -1
    Thank you Brother, even though you supported me. I was not talking about the purity of the race, but to pass as a norm that which is not, and really do not need.
    1. Heimdall49
      Heimdall49 14 January 2016 09: 36
      -5
      I didn’t talk about the purity of the race either, because this is the same mythical thing as the purity of hands. Like not mine, but microbes will remain laughing But striving for it is necessary. Absolute distillation is superfluous, but exceptions to the rules also need not be issued.
      1. hrapon
        hrapon 14 January 2016 09: 40
        +1
        Quote: Heimdall49
        I didn’t talk about the purity of the race either, because this is the same mythical thing as the purity of hands. Like not mine, but microbes will remain laughing But striving for it is necessary.


        That the "hat" is tanned?
    2. Aleksandr Tot
      Aleksandr Tot 15 January 2016 19: 10
      +1
      Grandfather Luka. I’m raking your quotes and impressive answers into a single argument for those who don’t have a command (order) to understand, narrow thinking (focus), limited physiology (lack of a set of neurons, chemical-physical processes) in the hope of at least some protective reaction of healthy people.
      You hefty + and support.
      However, the style
      Broadcast, dear
      leaves no doubt about the level of your intelligence.
      As well as knowledge.
      Volga region, traditionally inhabited by the Tatars
      I would advise you
      I'm not worried about the purity of the race
      Our brothers Tatars, Chechens, Bashkirs, etc. have their own nat. republic, autonomy with nat. languages, customs, etc., Russians do not, Russia is multinational
      Although you may have nothing to do with it.
      For those who are in the tank. For some time now, we have undergone the process of transcoding mentality.
      Russian is not an ethnic group, but a state of mind.
      The transnational government will be a well-deserved gift for us.
      Of us they are trying to knock out the Russian spirit, with the help of such substrates
      Those who do not understand this, I do not blame, and those who have made me whipping here
      A respectable age is not yet a guarantee against dementia. I'm sorry.
      And you, I suppose, "a widow, a young merchant's wife." Can't find your ten vershoks?
      I read comments, and once again I am surprised how little our person needs
      since then, little has changed. I'm sorry.
      Well, some in the woods, some for firewood.
      Not alone, but clearly in the minority
      Apparently I'm not so smart that I enter into polemics with you.
      Do not distort the deck
      I was thinking about yesterday’s dispute yesterday and came to the conclusion that people need to explain everything on their fingers
      It is a pity that in a patriotic frenzy, many are not able to critically evaluate
      Koment starley from the south - Smart people don’t look at this site ... Only Dedluka
      patriotism is the last refuge of mediocrity.
      have barely reviewed and read too much, so they are puffing up here. And in life, most of these "patriots" did not commit a single male act
      which some liberal faces have already stated aloud. And here a new thesis appears: the Russian people are no more. Here lies a great danger to us.
      Today the trend is this, to thaw not with blood. Just as Putin put the bourgeois in a stall with his foreign policy, all at once all began to grow thin.
      Grandfather, I also tried in other topics to convince members of the forum not to confuse geography with genetics, rassology and many other bases (knowledge) for conclusions and decision making. Alas.
      I'm with you.
      1. ruskih
        ruskih 15 January 2016 22: 07
        +2
        Do not be offended, but many, including myself, took this article purely emotionally, got positive and EVERYTHING, and did not get into such "jungle", and you and grandfather Luka tried to be a little straightforward, somewhere even rude to pay attention to the national Politics in Russia and people did not want to understand you. If there was another more serious it would have been different. I used to write in the comments "There has always been and there is a sense of pride for the Russian people. Just why the phrase does not sound anywhere in the Constitution of the Russian Federation" Russian people "?" and received a very funny answer.
        1. Grandfather Luka
          Grandfather Luka 16 January 2016 13: 37
          +2
          On offended carry water. The tasks facing us do not allow us to be distracted by work as horse-drawn.
          1. ruskih
            ruskih 17 January 2016 11: 06
            +1
            Then good luck again!
  • hrapon
    hrapon 14 January 2016 09: 22
    +3
    Quote: Heimdall49
    I agree, the article is lousy. Russian is Russian, and Tatar is Tatar. It’s stupid to boast that your grandparents sinned in a dope with foreigners / Gentiles. Looks like they were without a clan tribe or faith.


    Well, thank you, you are our "evil-horned" (Heimdall - the son of Odin and nine mothers, was portrayed with a golden horn), brought the orphans to their senses ...

    It is a pity that Rachmaninoff did not know about this (from the Moldavian family), or General Kornilov (mother of the Kazakh woman), or Ulyanov-Lenin (there is generally a salad) ...

    And Yaroslav the Wise (mother of the Polovtsian princess) did not know at all ...
    1. Heimdall49
      Heimdall49 14 January 2016 09: 47
      -7
      It is a pity that Rachmaninoff did not know about this (from the Moldavian family), or General Kornilov (mother of the Kazakh woman),

      Yes, even if they are blacks - live calmly, just do not need your family tree (exceptional) project to all of Russia as a rule.
      And they didn’t do as far as I know, because they are worthy people.
      Ulyanova, by the way, in the furnace) You still give Trotsky an example.
  • Ebundey Mukhryuev
    Ebundey Mukhryuev 14 January 2016 11: 20
    +5
    And I generally have ancestors from monkeys, they say, let's go! How to be Ah, everything is silent.
    1. guzik007
      guzik007 14 January 2016 11: 56
      +3
      Ebundey Mukhryuyev RU Today, 11:20 ↑ New
      And I generally have ancestors from monkeys, they say, let's go! How to be Ah, everything is silent.
      -------------------------------------------------- ------------------------
      Ebundey! you soaked !!! Bravo!!!
  • PHANTOM-AS
    PHANTOM-AS 14 January 2016 08: 34
    +5
    <!--QuoteBegin
    Author -> Quote:
    Author This is my country, and all its sins are on me. If she's bad, then I'm not a present either. But we will suffer together. Without suffering - what the hell am I Russian? And to leave here - where and why? The whole world is foreign to me. I'll die here. The drunken master Bezenchuk will make my coffin, and let them put a couple of cans of stew in the coffin. For a rainy day. For, perhaps, "there" will be even worse. [/ Quote]
    "I love you Motherland, yo-mine, but what should I love if not Her"


    And very very big and beautiful
  • Captain45
    14 January 2016 08: 48
    +2
    Quote: Grandfather Luka
    Muslims and Orthodox never mixed in blood, the church did not allow, even in the Soviet period such marriages were more likely an exception to the rule

    You are obviously a very old grandfather and do not go down the benches from the oven. Norilsk, virgin lands, BAM, KAMAZ, Siberian
  • although
    although 14 January 2016 08: 57
    11
    Quote: Grandfather Luka
    The article is vile. The author is hardly Russian, most likely a Jew. The thesis that Tatarin was found to scratch the Russian was invented by the Jews, and they are relayed by them. Muslims and Orthodox Christians never mixed up intimately, the church did not allow, even in the Soviet period, such marriages were more likely an exception to the rule.

    But what to take from you .. button accordion of course, but still:
    The Marquis de Custine described a curious episode ...
    At the court ball, when the Marquis examined the guests, Emperor Nicholas I approached him.
    “- Do you think that all this is Russian?
    “Of course, Your Majesty ...”
    - Here it is! This is a Tatar. This is a German. This is a Pole. This is a Georgian, and there stands a Jew and a Moldavian.
    “But then who are the Russians here, Your Majesty ?!”
    “But together they are Russian!”

    The Russian people have always been and will be multinational, this is their strength.
    1. Heimdall49
      Heimdall49 14 January 2016 09: 05
      -1
      This is the replication of ordinary lies.
      Here's what the quote actually looks like:
      “.. our unity is only apparent. Here, please take a look, not far from us are twenty officers; of them only two first Russians, behind them are three of the Poles loyal to us, others partly Germans; even the Kyrgyz khans happen to bring sons to me to be brought up among my cadets, one of them is there - with these words he pointed me a finger at a small Chinese monkey in a strange velvet suit, strewn with gold from head to toe; on his head, a young Asian man wore a high straight hat with a sharp top and large round lapels bent upwards, similar to a clownish cap. “Together with this boy, two hundred thousand children are educated and receive education at my expense.”
    2. Grandfather Luka
      Grandfather Luka 15 January 2016 07: 48
      0
      Well, where did these Nicholas go, the first and the second, and where did Russia find itself with the live participation of these "Russians"? Remind me?
  • Sorokin
    Sorokin 14 January 2016 09: 07
    +7
    At the root is not a correct judgment. Where do you order me to put my Tatar wife? My friends Tatars who go to the mosque and the children were baptized by mother? In Perm, the most beautiful girls are so mixed up with us all and get along well just live together.
    1. Alexey Lobanov
      Alexey Lobanov 14 January 2016 09: 28
      +8
      Quote: Sorokin
      In Perm, the most beautiful girls are so mixed up with us all and get along well just live together.


      I won’t argue, just add - in Saratov, too, the most beautiful girls, in Ivanovo - the same, in Novosibirsk - the same, in Vladivostok - the same, etc.
      IN RUSSIA THE MOST BEAUTIFUL WOMEN. Fact.
      Point!
      1. Sorokin
        Sorokin 14 January 2016 10: 43
        0
        Yes Yes Yes. Correctly in agreement unequivocally.
      2. Diana Ilyina
        Diana Ilyina 14 January 2016 10: 58
        +7
        Quote: Alexey Lobanov
        I won’t argue, just add - in Saratov, too, the most beautiful girls, in Ivanovo - the same, in Novosibirsk - the same, in Vladivostok - the same, etc.
        IN RUSSIA THE MOST BEAUTIFUL WOMEN. Fact.
        Point!


        Thank you for the compliment, but still the most beautiful in our south, the Don and the Kuban! love
        1. Grandfather Luka
          Grandfather Luka 14 January 2016 19: 03
          -2
          Who about what, lousy about the bath.
    2. Warrior Hamilton
      Warrior Hamilton 14 January 2016 22: 28
      +2
      Come on ...... Do you want order in the house, marry a Tatar!
  • faridg7
    faridg7 14 January 2016 11: 54
    +3
    And you tell this to my eldest son, he then spoils. Napalm from Tatar, Belorussian, Ukrainian, Russian is mixed in it. And this napalm was insisted on a mixture of Central Asian heat and coastal hardening, so now aging is also taking place in the Kuban. Now try to blur his self-awareness. And the youngest should not say at all that he is non-Russian; he is unlikely to think that this is a joke.
  • testerman
    testerman 14 January 2016 14: 26
    +1
    You are fundamentally wrong grandfather. In Siberia, it’s like a melting pot and the marriage of a Tatar with a Russian or vice versa does not surprise anyone here. He is Russian and is married to a Mishar Tatar. And from the side of the relatives, no estrangement. I travel to Kazan regularly and rest there with my soul and body. And because of this, my children didn’t become less Russian either. You just need to respect the identity of peoples and thanks to this get along perfectly.
  • 72jora72
    72jora72 14 January 2016 18: 20
    +1
    Muslims and Orthodox never mixed in blood, the church did not allow, even in the Soviet period such marriages were more likely an exception
    I won’t discuss it, I’ll just ask for a quote from a Soviet film ..... Uncle, are you --- cancer ??
  • Kaiten
    Kaiten 14 January 2016 19: 02
    +4
    Quote: Grandfather Luka
    The article is vile. The author is hardly Russian, most likely a Jew

    Jews appeared through 12 posts. it would seem an article about the Russians, about the Jews in it not a word, but in the discussion without Jews
    1. Grandfather Luka
      Grandfather Luka 15 January 2016 07: 10
      0
      Such is your karma, you are our dear, God's chosen ones.
      1. Aleksandr Tot
        Aleksandr Tot 15 January 2016 19: 25
        0
        DedLuka, "chosen by God" are not chosen by God at all.
        I, too, "mlu" from the self-chosenness of "God's chosen".
    2. IS-80
      IS-80 15 January 2016 10: 10
      0
      Quote: Kaiten
      Jews appeared through 12 posts. it would seem an article about the Russians, about the Jews in it not a word, but in the discussion without Jews

      Where are there without relatives. laughing
      1. Aleksandr Tot
        Aleksandr Tot 15 January 2016 19: 32
        0
        IS-80, what are you talking about? "Where can I do without relatives." I'm talking about "relatives" in Jewry. If you remember that an accepted and accepted person can be a Jew, then it is strange to talk about Jewish relatives in ordinary, non-Jewish terms.
    3. Grandfather Luka
      Grandfather Luka 15 January 2016 13: 38
      -1
      You see, it’s painfully cleverly wrapped up in the article .......
    4. BARKHAN
      BARKHAN 15 January 2016 22: 38
      +2
      Quote: Kaiten
      Jews appeared through 12 posts. it would seem an article about the Russians, about the Jews in it not a word, but in the discussion without Jews

      laughing Go wait around the corner when they call.
      No thanks here, and so you will not put out the flames ...
      Although ... if the Russians have something to say, then GREAT! to health ... we have democracy! wink
  • user
    user 14 January 2016 20: 26
    +1
    The thesis that Tatarin was found to scratch the Russian was invented by the Jews, and they are relayed by them.


    No, this is our BLACK HUMOR, and everyone immediately understands what I mean. But you, by the way you express your thoughts, are probably a foreign guy, because you write nonsense.
    1. Grandfather Luka
      Grandfather Luka 16 January 2016 14: 53
      0
      In every joke there is only a fraction of the joke. Do not forget.
  • sergnow
    sergnow 15 January 2016 02: 28
    0
    About the author, you are very right, but something mixed up! Come to Siberia and see how Russia lives.
    1. Aleksandr Tot
      Aleksandr Tot 15 January 2016 19: 40
      0
      I run into comments about punches below the belt about literacy, but you really beg for it, sergnow, to draw conclusions about your low-reading childhood and, as a result, a misunderstanding of Russianness, which Russian fairy tales and songs breathe.
  • avva2012
    avva2012 14 January 2016 07: 15
    +2
    Tomsk, Hello!
    Studied, the best years have passed. Beautiful city! Until now, Kashtak has been dreaming periodically. Great people! Friends stayed. Oh, youth! All Tomsk citizens, low bow, health! Was two years ago. The city has changed, but in my opinion, for the better. hi
  • 24rus
    24rus 14 January 2016 07: 33
    +2
    I will answer you by the fact that I also live in Siberia only deeper - in Krasnoyarsk. And even if you look at the list of names of employees of our not-so-large organization, then there are many Finnish, German, and even Chinese pluses to all surnames of nationalities of the USSR
    1. Red_Hamer
      Red_Hamer 14 January 2016 08: 05
      +1
      Maybe you live DEEPER, and I go even further, and what do you need to navigate by organizations or surnames? Sorry, but from the Middle Ages to the 19th century, Russians were often called Tatars in Europe, so what?
      1. 24rus
        24rus 14 January 2016 08: 10
        0
        This is just a good example by last name.
        1. Aleksandr Tot
          Aleksandr Tot 15 January 2016 20: 19
          0
          24rus, My name is ending in KO.
          Your phrase - "By last name is just a clear example" can only be a consequence of your dementia - a lack of understanding of cause and effect relationships.
          Litter if below the belt.
  • 24rus
    24rus 14 January 2016 07: 37
    +5
    And together we are Russian. No one ever paid attention to who was there grandfather or grandmother in the third knee
  • Finches
    Finches 14 January 2016 09: 24
    0
    Countryman! hi

    And I'm from Kemerovo!
  • BARKHAN
    BARKHAN 14 January 2016 19: 11
    +6
    I was born and live in Penza. But I spent my childhood with my parents in Yakutia. Oymyakonye, ​​Ust-Nera, the village of Elginsky, the Indigirka River to all who sincerely greet them from there.
    The article is good. I’m thinking about birch trees, currants, mushrooms and gudgeons in my native river ... The smell of a frosty winter morning. And the spring inexpressible aroma of bird cherry. Honey in honeycombs and fresh milk. Grandma’s pancakes. The smell of shot father’s hunting cartridges that he played dreaming how I myself will bring the booty home (a dream come true wink ) ...
    I love my homeland. I’m sure of that.
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  • paul-muatdeeb
    paul-muatdeeb 14 January 2016 22: 08
    +2
    Greetings from Tula - the arms capital of Russia. They do not know that we are not sleeping here, and they are thinking about how to arrange a "sweet" life for them. Cheap and cheerful.
  • nov_tech.vrn
    nov_tech.vrn 14 January 2016 23: 08
    +2
    Not everyone likes this, now all the media of disinformation are screaming to vomit that books are being burned in Siberia, and books published in their time under the auspices of the Soros Foundation. With textbooks, it’s true that it’s not a tourniquet, but they just collected it for disposal, and in a couple of technical schools, it means that these are mainly textbooks on social and political sciences. We got to our school at the military school in the late 90s, such books that were donated by the Moscow government as humanitarian aid, so, after reading these textbooks published in the early 90s and from which young Muscovites studied at that time, I Now I understand what funds were invested so that our children would be ashamed of their history and nation, hate the state and the very land on which they were born.
    PS The names of those scribblers still appear among the authors of the manuals, but there is no reference "with the assistance of the Soros Foundation"
  • rpek32
    rpek32 14 January 2016 06: 06
    +2
    Well, where we do not laughing
    1. Captain45
      14 January 2016 08: 51
      +2
      Quote: rpek32
      well where we are not laughing

      One of my boss used to say this 6 "Everywhere is good until we come" laughing
  • afdjhbn67
    afdjhbn67 14 January 2016 06: 08
    +8
    Quote: 24rus
    In Siberia for many years there are definitely no all kinds of purely Russian links.

    Semey - in Buryatia is it your who ?? (semey) Old Orthodox
    More recently, even the dishes were separate for strangers, at least for my grandmothers, not to mention marriages with strangers - hence the types with linen curls and blue eyes ..
  • vlad66
    vlad66 14 January 2016 06: 08
    19
    Quote: 24rus
    In Siberia for many years there are definitely no all kinds of purely Russian links.

    Well, don’t say so Russia is multinational, but together we are Russian. hi
    1. Dembel77
      Dembel77 14 January 2016 07: 20
      +8
      Every Russian scolds his country for what it is worth. The authorities have thieves and bastards, have taken away everything that you can, there is no one to believe, the roads are terrible, there is no law, there is no future, completely damned days, dead souls, only to throw down the Volga from the cliff! I curse myself, I do not regret words. But as soon as I had a foreigner or — worse than that — my compatriot, who had not lived here for a long time, would begin to say nasty things about my country — then I beast like a drunken Yesenin. Here I am ready right in the face. With a swing.
      I liked this most of all - we scold everything and everyone in the world - but we will not allow anyone to take it away! This is ours! Let it be what it is ... But still its sweetest of all. (By the way, I’ll tell you a secret - birches in Germany are not the same, they look the same as ours, but you put your palm to the trunk - they don’t warm! And at home, in your native garden - every bush smiles at you)
      1. Grandfather Luka
        Grandfather Luka 14 January 2016 08: 14
        -3
        Again, vague doubts torment me, or maybe they have already taken it away, but we have not noticed. Keep rejoicing.
        1. Aleksandr Tot
          Aleksandr Tot 15 January 2016 20: 26
          0
          Luke, do not worry. You know. Not taken away. Noticed. Rejoice.
          Not all sick with war were beaten - a pretext by my mother-in-law.
          The law of systems will not jump over.
  • Nagaibak
    Nagaibak 14 January 2016 07: 55
    0
    24rus "In Siberia, for many years there are definitely no purely Russian references of all kinds."
    Sprinkling sand on your head ... you can also begin to argue that there are no purely Russians. How did TINA KANDELAKI do it))) You might think the Georgians are purebred.)))
    And in the same way, we can say that there is NOT A PURE PURPOSE PEOPLE !!!!)))) SOMETHING .. SOMETHING .. WHEN MANDATORY HAVE APPEARED! Therefore, do not whine and get hung up on this topic. Well, we are not Aryans ...))) And what?))))
    1. kalibr
      kalibr 14 January 2016 10: 31
      0
      50-60% of the haplogroup R1 is found among the Kyrgyz! But this is a Slavic haplogroup! So about the purity of blood is a fairy tale. None of the Slavic people have an indicator above 50-60%. And the rest is what? Anything there!
      1. Rivares
        Rivares 16 January 2016 00: 48
        +2
        Quote: kalibr
        50-60% of the haplogroup R1 is found among the Kyrgyz! But this is a Slavic haplogroup! So about the purity of blood is a fairy tale. None of the Slavic people have an indicator above 50-60%. And the rest is what? Anything there!

        But no. R1a is located on the Y chromosome which is only transmitted to males.
        And according to mitochondrial DNA (only transmitted to the mother), the Kyrgyz are Mongoloids.
        The mitochondrial genome of Russians as a whole is typically European.
  • Red_Hamer
    Red_Hamer 14 January 2016 07: 55
    0
    Did you get this from "Mrs. Tinatin?" So look "Besogon" banned on TV Russia 24, maybe you are not here, but to Tinatin?
    1. Nagaibak
      Nagaibak 14 January 2016 08: 17
      +1
      Red_Hamer "Did you get it from" Mistress "Tinatin? So watch" Besogon "forbidden on TV, maybe it's not here for you, but to Tinatin?"
      Who are you?
  • Mhpv
    Mhpv 14 January 2016 09: 47
    +3
    Interestingly, and this nonsense is also written with a hangover or a glass? Something you have vodka does not leave your thoughts and actions, and in between drinking, with a hangover, love for the Motherland wakes up. However, judging by the plused comments, there are more proud than those who disagree. Pour patriots in the morning, or even the day will not be given.
    1. Grandfather Luka
      Grandfather Luka 14 January 2016 10: 46
      0
      Plus for common sense. Some people need less to drink.
      1. Aleksandr Tot
        Aleksandr Tot 15 January 2016 19: 51
        +1
        Grandfather Luka, If some drink less, it’s not a fact that this fact will add common sense to them.
        Together we are not a force, but the opposition "along the way"!
        Luke, don’t be Santa, ahead of the field.
  • Kindof
    Kindof 14 January 2016 09: 54
    +5
    Russianness is a national-cultural identity.
    The exile to Siberia was practiced by the Germans-Romanovs.
    If we proceed from the fact that they expelled passionaries and guardians of the traditional way of life - those who were objectionable to the tsarist regime and the Old Believers - who were objectionable to the globalizer Nikon, then this already testifies to their original Russianness.
    The builders of communism, aimed at the conquest of Siberia, I believe, mainly settled there. The projects and construction projects that they implemented are monuments of true Russian greatness.
    The Trotskyists exiled under Stalin returned to the megacities with the Khrushchev thaw with songs about the "kgovy gebnya" and brought up today's liberals.

    The article did not like the abundance of Zadornovschina: Russian cannot solve anything without vodka, and it’s a matter of pride to drink a foreigner. How many souls have already been killed by drugs and vodka, and we still think for boldness: foreigners carry a lot of alcohol - and a Russian should have it all for fun .. a sort of bear with a balalaika
    1. Grandfather Luka
      Grandfather Luka 14 January 2016 11: 12
      +1
      Thank you friend for the right words.
  • marlin1203
    marlin1203 14 January 2016 10: 22
    +5
    "Russian" in our time is, in addition to the state of mind, rather a military rank. soldier
  • Hort
    Hort 14 January 2016 11: 17
    +3
    everything is normal in Siberia with purely Russian
  • testerman
    testerman 14 January 2016 13: 50
    -1
    If you do not know, then do not talk. There is everything in Siberia, including Russians, together we are all Russians, and whoever says otherwise will regret it
    1. kayman4
      kayman4 14 January 2016 17: 27
      -1
      Russians are a sub-ethnos which has absorbed many peoples, including the Slavic tribes. It is foolish to look for purebred descendants of the Slavs living on the territory of our country that way in the 6-7 century they simply do not exist. Nevertheless, this does not prevent our people from identifying themselves with the ethnic group "Russians"
      1. Kaiten
        Kaiten 14 January 2016 19: 23
        +2
        Quote: kayman4
        subethnos

        correction, not subethnos, but superethnos. That is, based on several ethnic groups.
      2. Rivares
        Rivares 14 January 2016 20: 22
        +5
        Quote: kayman4
        Russian is a subethnos which has incorporated many nations, including Slavic tribes.

        Yes??! But genetics says something completely different! The haplogroup composition of the Russian people speaks about the integrity of the ethnic group. There are no Mongolian tracks at all.
        1. Weyland
          Weyland 15 January 2016 00: 46
          0
          Quote: Rivares
          There are no Mongolian tracks at all.


          Mongolian (C) - no. And Finno-Ugric (N) - dofiga! smile
          1. Rivares
            Rivares 16 January 2016 00: 56
            +2
            Quote: Weyland

            Mongolian (C) - no. And Finno-Ugric (N) - dofiga!

            And what of that? 2-3 leading markers indicate the integrity of the ethnic group. Does your testimony show the presence of Mongolian tracks? No. They prove that the Russians have absorbed MANY (many, at least more than 3) peoples? No. Empty flood sir
    2. kayman4
      kayman4 14 January 2016 17: 34
      +1
      Quote: testerman
      If you do not know, then do not talk. There is everything in Siberia, including Russians, together we are all Russians, and whoever says otherwise will regret it


      For my brother, who left for the West of Russia, the Kazakh turned out to be the most Russian - the mentality there in the West is already rotting - "my hut on the edge" is becoming the norm
  • Weyland
    Weyland 15 January 2016 00: 27
    +1
    Quote: 24rus

    In Siberia for many years there are definitely no all kinds of purely Russian links.


    And what were you before? In those places, no sane person would drag a woman - so the Cossack explorers married only in Yakut, Buryat and Evenki ... So what? In many countries mestizo make up the majority of the population!
    By the way: those "pure Russians" who live BEFORE the Urals are about a quarter of the assimilated Meru, Murom, Meschera, Golyad (unless, of course, these ethnonyms tell you something)
    1. Rivares
      Rivares 15 January 2016 00: 54
      +1
      Quote: Weyland
      In those places, no sane person will not drag a woman

      Do you judge Western Siberia by horror stories? You also interviewed all the Cossacks whom they married to take?
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      2. Weyland
        Weyland 15 January 2016 01: 12
        +1
        Quote: Rivares
        You also interviewed all the Cossacks whom they married to take?


        Why poll? If you are not in the know - Khabarov, Dezhnev, Atlasov and others compiled rather detailed reports ("skats") about their trips (including about such household trifles) - so take it and read, fortunately - and there will be a Network everything!
        1. Rivares
          Rivares 15 January 2016 12: 10
          +2
          Quote: Weyland
          Why interrogate? If you are not in the know - Khabarov, Dezhnev, Atlas, etc. made rather detailed reports

          While I see nothing but a minus. You probably didn’t read their reports yourself, just for the show you referred to what they are?
          For example, in 1630, 150 "girls" from Totma, Ustyug and Solvychegodsk were escorted beyond the Urals. Volunteer brides were also recruited. There is a known case when 39 women of their own free will came to the city of Yeniseisk from Pomorie "to marry Yenisei servicemen and arable peasants."
          Some Siberian Cossacks ("service people") married aboriginal women. "We know what was done to us from the governors and from the clerks who had previously been in Siberia," said in a letter from Patriarch Filaret to the Siberian Archbishop Cyprian (1622), "that in Siberian cities there are many servants ... people ... with Tatar and Ostyak , and with Vogulitsky ... wives they will mix ... and others live with the Tatar unbaptized, as they are with their wives. "
          It said "some". And you, like the communists of the 20s, "the cat threw the kittens all the way they want"
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  • sergnow
    sergnow 15 January 2016 02: 15
    0
    But Siberia is saved by Russia!
  • vkfriendly
    vkfriendly 15 January 2016 08: 37
    +1
    I will say one thing: in Siberia and in the Far East, the most decent, fair and honest people live, the most powerful in souls, ask why. Because all the people who were exiled to those lands, it was not paradoxically made up the color of the nation. And in the same Moscow those who wrote denunciations remained (not reproachfully said). And yes, rebels live here not for nothing in the 90s, talking about the Far East republic.
  • Max_Bauder
    Max_Bauder 15 January 2016 09: 25
    0
    Great story! good
    With humor. Write more.
  • Aleksandr Tot
    Aleksandr Tot 15 January 2016 18: 11
    0
    I remembered Zadornov. Not literally, but the meaning is 24 rus. Not sick on the head - just du ** k.
  • dustycat
    dustycat 16 January 2016 16: 30
    0
    You are in vain.
    These are purebred aborigines in Siberia from this.
  • dustycat
    dustycat 16 January 2016 16: 30
    0
    You are in vain.
    These are purebred aborigines in Siberia from this.
  • samuil60
    samuil60 16 January 2016 21: 40
    0
    Well, yes, like: are there only Bolsheviks?
  • alex1310
    alex1310 14 January 2016 05: 35
    +4
    YOUNG !!!
    1. Lyton
      Lyton 14 January 2016 06: 00
      +4
      Funny written, but about the fact that at the first opportunity flees abroad, I do not agree.
      1. blizart
        blizart 14 January 2016 07: 00
        +7
        Quote: Lyton
        Funny written, but about the fact that at the first opportunity flees abroad, I do not agree.

        Russians remember, beyond the borders of Russia there are many millions of people (not only Russians) who would gladly move to Russia. I would personally to Belgorod.
        1. Nagaibak
          Nagaibak 14 January 2016 08: 18
          0
          blizart "I would personally go to Belgorod."
          What is there to do that?))) In the sense, what determines the choice?)))
          1. blizart
            blizart 14 January 2016 09: 23
            +4
            Quote: Nagaibak
            blizart "I would personally go to Belgorod."
            What is there to do that?))) In the sense, what determines the choice?)))

            Sport is developed there. And the city is beautiful, one of the most comfortable in Russia. Again, my wife from there and next to the third military field of Russia - Prokhorovka. City of the first salute.
            1. Nagaibak
              Nagaibak 14 January 2016 10: 16
              0
              blizart "Sports are developed there. And the city is beautiful, one of the most comfortable in Russia. Again, my wife is from there and next to the third military field in Russia - Prokhorovka. The city of the first fireworks."
              Northerners are full there. Who from Ukraine and Moldova, many settled there.))) A good choice.)))
    2. Ami du peuple
      Ami du peuple 14 January 2016 06: 04
      11
      Quote: alex1310
      YOUNG !!!

      Not really ... I read this paragraph with bewilderment:
      The Italians screeched: “Belissimo!” - and looked at me with the admiring eyes of the Raphael Madonnas. God, how much I drank with them! And because he held on, he never fell. Because he understood: Russia is behind, nowhere to retreat. Then he helped to write one diploma. We Russians are all-trades masters, especially with a hangover.

      Is it really limited to writing a diploma? Not good, inhospitable! He did not disclose to the foreigners the fullness of Russian nature. laughing Or the author doesn’t finish something with us, which is most likely. wink
  • Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 14 January 2016 05: 42
    15
    And I'm Russian to the very bowels.
    happy for the author, though, I’m probably even deeper ... repeat
    So that the aspic on the table, the salary on time, Urgant on the screen.
    about aspic, consonant, and Urgant, along with Posner, in the furnace ...
    Every Russian scolds his country on what the light stands. Thieves and bastards are in power, they have stolen everything that is possible, there is no one to believe, the roads are terrible, there is no law, there is no future, completely cursed days, dead souls, only to rush into the Volga from a cliff! I curse myself, I do not regret words. But as soon as I have a foreigner, or — worse than that — a compatriot who has not lived here for a long time, begins to talk nasty things about my country — here I am a beast like a drunk Yesenin. Then I'm ready right in the face. On a grand scale
    categorically for! yes
    The coffin will be made to me by the drunken master Bezenchuk, and let a couple of cans of stew be put in the coffin. For a rainy day. For, perhaps, “there” will be even worse.
    I first calculated that I would take fishing tackles and boots with me, but then I remembered that there was no time to go fishing in hell ... what for did I sin? recourse wink
    1. CONTROL
      CONTROL 14 January 2016 08: 08
      +1
      Quote: Andrew Y.
      ... what for I sinned? recourse wink

      ... repentance is never too late!
    2. BARKHAN
      BARKHAN 15 January 2016 22: 46
      +1
      Quote: Andrey Yurievich
      I first calculated that I would take fishing tackles and boots with me, but then I remembered that there was no time to go fishing in hell ... what for did I sin?

      They say that time spent on fishing and hunting in life time does not count wink And gear and boots there will give out do not worry ... laughing am
  • venaya
    venaya 14 January 2016 05: 44
    +9
    Every Russian scolds his country on what the light stands

    You know, I personally did not notice this, rather, on the contrary, the one who is posing as a Russian in every possible way scolds my country how much the light is worth.
    1. EvgNik
      EvgNik 14 January 2016 06: 12
      10
      Quote: venaya
      rather, on the contrary, the one who pretends to be Russian in every possible way scolds my country how much the light costs

      Not at all. It happens to scold the government, roads and fools. But not a country? Over the hill - yes (I mean those who got there and could not find themselves in anything else, as soon as scolding the country. They, because of the hill, think globally, so they contemptuously speak about the country. Although in fact this is because that with the country they lost their soul).
      1. cap
        cap 14 January 2016 06: 49
        +6
        Quote: EvgNik
        Not at all. It happens to scold the government, roads and fools. But not a country? Over the hill - yes (I mean those who got there and could not find themselves in anything else, as soon as scolding the country. They, because of the hill, think globally, so they contemptuously speak about the country. Although in fact this is because that with the country they lost their soul).

        Great essay by Alexei Belyakov.

        “Every Russian scolds his country on what the light stands. Thieves and bastards are in power, they have stolen everything that is possible, there is no one to believe, the roads are terrible, there is no law, there is no future, completely cursed days, dead souls, only to rush into the Volga from a cliff! I curse myself, I do not regret words. ”
        “This is my country, and all its sins are on me. If she’s nasty, then I’m not a present either. But we will suffer together. Without suffering - what kind of Russian am I in FIG? And to leave here - where and why? I have a whole world of foreign land. I'll die here. ”
        These are the words of a patriot, but not everyone who calls himself Russian and who cares for Russia thinks the same. Pass by such an opus and say nothing ... Below I will give a link to the source.
        Verbatim:
        “... one can perhaps offer the only option for the Kremlin’s reaction to all these events if the authorities intend to save Russia from repeating the fate of the USSR. The first and most important thing that is required is to remove Russian troops from foreign territories (from Ukraine, from Syria, from South Ossetia and Abkhazia); return Crimea to Ukraine, South Ossetia and Abkhazia - Georgia, Transnistria - Moldova. Announce from the UN rostrum the intention of Moscow to become a nuclear-weapon-free state and offer the United States and the EU to redeem all the nuclear warheads available in Russia. Eliminate the armed forces of an offensive nature and together with them riot police as a repressive apparatus of power. Lustration of the prosecution system. Dissolve the State Duma and the Federation Council, prohibiting anyone who currently holds senior positions or has a deputy mandate from running in new government bodies. Invite Western managers to Russia to manage large companies and work in ministries. Reformat the federal division of Russia and create 8-10 large provinces with the most independent control from the center. Hold public trials of all state and war criminals ”(c).
        “One of the oldest and most respected professional“ fighters with the regime ”, German Viktorovich Obukhov. Of the old, still Soviet era dissidents, even once sat. Chairman of the Organizing Committee of the International Forum of Political Prisoners of the USSR. President of the International Charity Fund “Let's Open the World to Children”. Coordinator of the international coalition Stop Fascism in Russia. Writer. The author of Radio Liberty. Naturally, a US citizen. ”
        “On a nuclear-free happy Russia without Crimea and riot police”
        http://tehnowar.ru/33485-o-bezyadernoy-schastlivoy-rossii-bez-kryma-i-omona.html

        “But hardly with me is a foreigner, or — worse than that — a compatriot who has not lived here for a long time, begin to say nasty things about my country — here I am a beast like a drunk Yesenin. Then I'm ready right in the face. On a grand scale. Alexey Belyakov. "
        Join us!
        1. MrK
          MrK 17 January 2016 00: 44
          +1
          Quote: cap
          “One of the oldest and most respected professional“ fighters with the regime ”, German Viktorovich Obukhov.

          For this, the so-called butt, Russia needs to be put on its back in front of the United States and spread its legs. Just do not wait for the butts.
      2. Sorokin
        Sorokin 14 January 2016 10: 52
        0
        I agree with this, they have lost their souls, the main thing is not to return it already. But what are they to us?
  • EvgNik
    EvgNik 14 January 2016 05: 45
    +3
    Very accurately and correctly everything is noticed. So we are - Russian. And no matter how much blood anyone has. Russian is a state of mind. And if you drink ...
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 14 January 2016 05: 47
      0
      Quote: EvgNik
      And if you drink ..

      is this an offer? repeat
      1. EvgNik
        EvgNik 14 January 2016 06: 05
        -1
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        is this an offer?

        Why not. For this reason!
        1. Andrey Yuryevich
          Andrey Yuryevich 14 January 2016 06: 10
          0
          after the "night" 50g will not hurt ... for the Russian soul! drinks
          1. EvgNik
            EvgNik 14 January 2016 06: 33
            0
            After the "night" yes with motivation - God himself ordered!
      2. CONTROL
        CONTROL 14 January 2016 08: 12
        0
        Quote: Andrew Y.
        Quote: EvgNik
        And if you drink ..

        is this an offer? repeat

        ... then it is an offer! - late! Already drunk ... even - drank ... moreover - that's it!
  • bad
    bad 14 January 2016 05: 45
    +2
    .. yeah, sincere article, by golly clings .. hi
  • Hubun
    Hubun 14 January 2016 05: 46
    +8
    Even more blood is mixed in me, and let someone try to say that I'm not Russian
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    2. Weyland
      Weyland 15 January 2016 00: 36
      +1
      Plus! hi Remember how Nicholas I listed to Astolphe de Custine the national composition of the nobles present, and to the puzzled question: "V.I.V., where are the Russians here !?" - received the answer: "But together they are - Russians! " smile
      1. Grandfather Luka
        Grandfather Luka 17 January 2016 16: 35
        0
        With the national composition of the current nobles, too, "everything is in order." Domestic policy is in line with the interests of this composition.
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  • Riv
    Riv 14 January 2016 05: 49
    +1
    Interestingly: was the author at least once in Russia?
  • vex
    vex 14 January 2016 05: 56
    +9
    And I see around patient, a lot of working (even retired), usually calm Russian people. Ready to talk with any stranger, share your own, tell in detail about hobbies that are still afraid of power, but sometimes scolding it, still believing that you can’t go against public opinion, but these are neighbors, relatives, colleagues. They take care of children, grandchildren, parents, as if they did not notice some pranks of their relatives, but were worried about them, so much so that they could get it with their advice and worries. It seems that they do not set huge goals, but daily for a little bit in the end they achieve a lot.
    And the soul is wide open - it was around once, before this century. Now everyone around is busy. Such a period is probably also needed. I am an optimist and believe that there is no such test that the Russian people could not pass.
    1. EvgNik
      EvgNik 14 January 2016 06: 41
      +1
      Quote: vex
      And I see around

      And I see. But in general, your comment does not contradict the article, but only supplements it.
      And the soul is wide open - it was around once before this century

      But here I do not agree. We are calm for the time being. Read comments on articles - passions rage, and it happens that the soul is wide open.
      1. CONTROL
        CONTROL 14 January 2016 08: 16
        0
        Quote: EvgNik
        But in general, your comment does not contradict the article, but only supplements it.
        And the soul is wide open - it was around once before this century

        But here I do not agree. We are calm for the time being. Read comments on articles - passions rage, and it happens that the soul is wide open.

        ... That seems to be - with both hands "for"! ... but there are some objections ... doubts ... that's the same character! probably Russian ...
  • Moore
    Moore 14 January 2016 05: 58
    +3
    On the one hand, Vasilievich Nikolai with his
    I was born here. Russia, Petersburg, snow, scoundrels, department, department, theater - all this I dreamed about.

    And on the other - Alexander Vasilyevich with his: "I am Russian. What a delight!"
    That's how we live...
    1. Captain45
      14 January 2016 09: 01
      0
      Quote: Moore
      On the one hand, Vasilievich Nikolai with his

      I’m sorry, I’ll correct Nikolay Vasilyevich Gogol.
  • AID.S
    AID.S 14 January 2016 06: 00
    0
    So the writers pulled themselves into the news section .. News about the mysterious Russian soul.
    "I felt stuffy from the world. The world did not feel sympathy for me either" .... "c"
    1. EvgNik
      EvgNik 14 January 2016 06: 19
      0
      Quote: AID.S

      AID.S (1) Today, 06:00 AM New
      So the writers pulled themselves into the news section .. News about the mysterious Russian soul.
      "I felt stuffy from the world. The world did not feel sympathy for me either" .... "c"

      Well, not all the same time to be optimistic. It happens that melancholy rolls ... at such moments similar statements appear. Which of the Russian writers did not have them?
      1. Aleksandr Tot
        Aleksandr Tot 15 January 2016 20: 53
        0
        EvgNik, Your thoughts would be yes to your ears.
        I'm talking about "Well, it's not all the same time to be an optimist."
        EvgNik, severity needs are important for the demented.
        I do not have the slightest need to impress, but since VO is a common thing and, consequently, brainwashing on the choice with the participation of those dependent on the "independent" and those who have invested and resigned, well, about nothing ....
        EvgNik, you that really are what your epaulettes reflect? Do you believe that the bridge will not collapse if your slimmer ranks will introduce it into resonance?
  • A1L9E4K9S
    A1L9E4K9S 14 January 2016 06: 01
    +1
    I agree with you comrade Aleksey completely, this is our Country and for it we’ll fill our faces and face, we can scold our country and government ourselves, we will scold and forgive our own, but when other choices scold your homeland and they poured slop and shit ... m, let them not be offended, they will not remain without consequences.
  • Darkboy2012
    Darkboy2012 14 January 2016 06: 02
    0
    everything seems to be correct, but something is clearly not enough ..
  • Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 14 January 2016 06: 03
    +3
    A person's homeland is one, like a mother. And don't betray her. And I want to be proud of her. And there, behind the cordon, it may be more satisfying - (although we are not hungry either), but it is sad there. Everything there is not made in ours, different rules, other "fences". Our country can and should be proud of. Despite ... And stocks of stewed meat to make - for a lifetime - you will not be enough. It's just that our memory is deep. My grandparents told me a lot about the war, evacuation, hunger and typhus ... how they returned to the city, in which 3% of the entire buildings remained ... And now the city is a handsome man! And so - in everything.
  • Stinger
    Stinger 14 January 2016 06: 03
    +1
    Good article. Exactly, with love and healthy humor, a Russian man is described. Thanks to the author. I think that if the Italian trainees drank twice as much vodka with the author, they still didn’t understand anything in the Russian soul. In the morning he warmed his soul.
    1. blizart
      blizart 14 January 2016 07: 10
      +9
      Russian people study deeply yourself, so that there is something to hide in a dispute with adversaries.
      The psychology of Great Russia by V.O. Klyuchevsky (excerpt)
      “The folk signs of Great Russia are wayward, like the wayless nature of Great Russia reflected in them. She often laughs at the most careful calculations of the Great Russian; the waywardness of climate and soil deceives his most modest expectations, and, accustomed to these deceptions, the calculating Great Russian loves, sometimes headlong, to choose the most hopeless and unruly decision, contrasting the whim of nature with a whim of his own courage. This tendency to tease happiness, play luck is the Great Russian chance. One is sure of the Great Russian - that it is necessary to cherish a clear summer working day, that nature leaves him little convenient time for agricultural work, and that a short Great Russian summer can still be shortened by untimely unexpected bad weather. This makes the Great Russian peasant hurry, work hard to do a lot in a short time and at the time to get out of the field, and then fall and winter idle. So the Great Russian was accustomed to excessive short-term exertion of his strength, he got used to work soon, feverishly and quickly, and then rest during the forced autumn and winter idleness. Not a single nation in Europe is capable of such a stress of labor for the short time that the Great Russian can develop; but anywhere else in Europe, it seems, we will not find such a habit of even, moderate and measured constant work, as in the same Great Russia. Velikoross did not work in an open field, in front of everyone, like an inhabitant of southern Russia: he fought nature alone, in the wilderness of the forest with an ax in his hand. It was a silent black work on the external nature, on a forest or a wild field, and not on oneself and society, not on one’s feelings and attitudes towards people. Therefore, the Great Russian is better at working alone when no one is looking at him, and with difficulty gets used to friendly action by common forces. He is generally withdrawn and cautious, even timid, always on his mind, uncommunicative, better with himself than in public, better at the beginning when he is not yet confident in himself and in success, and worse at the end when he has already achieved some success and attract attention: self-doubt excites his strength, and success drops them. It is easier for him to overcome an obstacle, danger, failure, than to withstand tact with dignity and success; it’s easier to do great things than to get comfortable with the thought of your greatness. He belongs to that type of smart people who are getting stupid from the recognition of their mind. In a word, Great Russian is better than Great Russian society. The proverb Russian man with his hind mind is quite strong belongs to Great Russia. But the back mind is not the same as the back thought. By his habit of hesitating and maneuvering between the irregularities of the path and the accidents of life, the Great Russian often gives the impression of indirectness, insincerity. The Great Russian often thinks in two, and this seems double-headed. He always goes to a direct goal, although often not well thought out, but goes looking around, and therefore his gait seems evasive and vacillating. After all, you cannot crush the walls with your forehead, and only crows fly directly, say the Great Russian proverbs. Nature and fate led Great Russia so that he was taught to go on a direct road in a roundabout way. The Great Russian thinks and acts as he walks. It seems that you can come up with a more curved and meandering Great Russian lane? Like a snake crawled.
      1. Aleksandr Tot
        Aleksandr Tot 15 January 2016 21: 07
        0
        blizartе. One hundred percent. But I would connect Velikoross in and not just with Russians, Russians, Slavs and others proud of their community, their connection with the history of truth.
        Truth (Slavs) and not otherwise!
        Historians, hold on!
  • Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 14 January 2016 06: 14
    +4
    Cute. I read it with pleasure. Article clearly +. Sometimes you need to read this. Well, how to wash. And then the soul is not, no yes it will accumulate. And the author is a morally healthy person, in the whole article there is not a drop of dirt, which authors often cannot resist.
  • izya top
    izya top 14 January 2016 06: 15
    +3
    and in a coffin let them put a couple of cans of stew.
    "the first time I see a person preparing for such an active afterlife" (c)
    1. EvgNik
      EvgNik 14 January 2016 06: 45
      0
      Quote: izya top
      "the first time I see a person preparing for such an active afterlife" (c)

      But why? Someone takes mobile phones with him. Type - to call from the other world. It is a pity that I did not hear anything about such calls.
      1. CONTROL
        CONTROL 14 January 2016 08: 21
        0
        Quote: EvgNik
        Quote: izya top
        "the first time I see a person preparing for such an active afterlife" (c)

        But why? Someone takes mobile phones with him. Type - to call from the other world. It is a pity that I did not hear anything about such calls.

        ... can be arranged! SMSku for starters ... and then - a lively dialogue, with comments ... (just kidding)
  • Barboskin
    Barboskin 14 January 2016 06: 17
    +2
    Thanks to the author. Just poetry in prose, really Russian.
  • Koronik
    Koronik 14 January 2016 06: 20
    +5
    "TO BE RUSSIAN IS TO LIVE BETWEEN THE SKY AND THE WHEEL, BETWEEN THE HAMMER AND THE SICKLE."
    Author Alexey Belyakov
    Yes, I also have doubts that the author is familiar with the Great Russian history and culture, familiar with Chekhov and Tchaikovsky of his measure-Russian people;
    “A Russian needs to have time to think so much around that life will not be enough. That is why we drink a lot: every glass seems to make the world more understandable. World processes accelerate. He waved a glass - Chamberlain is gone. He waved another - Reagan flew by. Without eating. "- how often we are told this, that sometimes we begin to believe it!
    1. Grandfather Luka
      Grandfather Luka 14 January 2016 07: 26
      +3
      Wow, Volfych, another Russian, scrape off Tatarin, that's what I commented on. They sing praises to us, but while our breath has stolen in the goiter along the way, and they will insert about "scratch". Critical comrades treat praises. Flattery is a terrible weapon. Works flawlessly.
      1. Aleksandr Tot
        Aleksandr Tot 15 January 2016 21: 11
        0
        Grandfather, I am delighted with your truth.
        Who are you?
      2. Grandfather Luka
        Grandfather Luka 18 January 2016 06: 49
        +1
        Volfych is certainly handsome, knows with what keys the soul of a Russian person opens. But only every time in the elections, according to party lists in the State Duma, it conducts mainly oligarchs of the middle hand, with a known reputation in narrow circles, with mostly Jewish surnames. So here.
  • V.ic
    V.ic 14 January 2016 06: 24
    +1
    And Gogol was happy as a child, crossing the border of Russia. Author Alexey Belyakov

    The second (Little Gogol / Yanovsky) hypostasis was excited. belay
    Thieves and bastards are in power, they have stolen everything that is possible, there is nobody to believe, the roads are terrible, there is no law, there is no future, all the damned days, dead souls, only to rush into the Volga from a cliff! I curse myself, I do not regret words. But as soon as I have a foreigner or, worse, a compatriot who has not lived here for a long time, will start talking nasty things about my country - here I am a beast. Author Alexei Belyakov

    Yes here! yes
  • Great-grandfather of Zeus
    Great-grandfather of Zeus 14 January 2016 06: 26
    -10 qualifying.
    The article is a rascal who honestly honored the minus, because I know a lot of people who don’t need these uglings and don’t believe it, but it’s a fact. One of them has already fed up with this foreign life and they just want to live at home as well as their fathers and grandfathers. who just made a choice — they work and relax at our resorts — three acquaintances recently arrived from Boykala, where they go every year. And when doing it, you can have a good rest, so why do people abroad?
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 14 January 2016 06: 51
      12
      Quote: Great-grandfather of Zeus
      came from Boykala

      for Baikal alone, minus 100 points.
      1. afdjhbn67
        afdjhbn67 14 January 2016 07: 07
        +1
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        for Baikal alone, minus 100 points.

        Andrei, my question arose - what were they doing on Lake Baikal ?? chill snow to the waist and sadness complete, vodkas except to devour ... I have a house in Enhaluk, on the beach, so I go to check integrity, there is nothing more to do there ..
      2. Great-grandfather of Zeus
        Great-grandfather of Zeus 14 January 2016 07: 35
        -3
        Andrei Yurnich, but minus because he had been more likely for three years to go to Lake Baikal and managed to realize his dream only in winter? You don’t know everything in life and it doesn’t always go as you plan, so people went there when they could.
        1. Andrey Yuryevich
          Andrey Yuryevich 14 January 2016 08: 14
          +2
          Quote: Great-grandfather of Zeus
          Andrei Yurnich-a minus for the fact that ...

          for mocking the Russian language.
          1. Nagaibak
            Nagaibak 14 January 2016 08: 48
            +1
            andrei yurievich "for mockery of the Russian language."
            I'm crying.)))
      3. CONTROL
        CONTROL 14 January 2016 08: 31
        +1
        Quote: Andrew Y.
        Quote: Great-grandfather of Zeus
        came from Boykala

        for Baikal alone, minus 100 points.

        a lot of people with whom these zagronitse are not needed for nothing
        ... and just as much!
    2. Grandfather Luka
      Grandfather Luka 14 January 2016 07: 52
      -6
      I would not call an article ravings. It is written very competently and subtly, in terms of psychological manipulation. Behind the screen of positive assessments of the Russian mentality, very harmful, false theses are hidden. Pay attention to the enthusiasm of the local audience, for which this audience does not want to see the true purpose of the article.
      1. CONTROL
        CONTROL 14 January 2016 08: 37
        +3
        Quote: Grandfather Luka
        I would not call an article ravings. It is written very competently and subtly, in terms of psychological manipulation. Behind the screen of positive assessments of the Russian mentality, very harmful, false theses are hidden. Pay attention to the enthusiasm of the local audience, for which this audience does not want to see the true purpose of the article.

        The true purpose of the article is to create a mood!
        ... As they say - 20 grams for a smell! and dope - and his own, without vodka is enough ...
        What is, that is, such a dual impression, and the attitude (according to the analytical reading) is vague ... Or maybe this was the goal? tuta and homespun - is it a poky truth? ...
      2. kalibr
        kalibr 14 January 2016 10: 40
        +1
        It is clear that all idiotic droolings, I don’t understand. Thanks for the enlightenment. What would we do here without such a deep insight into the essence of the subject.
        1. Grandfather Luka
          Grandfather Luka 15 January 2016 07: 19
          +1
          One gets the impression that all of you are just doing it, that sticking out here is completely impossible. I admit, I did not expect recognition from you in your own idiocy so soon. It pleases, so I spent the evening not in vain.
          1. Aleksandr Tot
            Aleksandr Tot 15 January 2016 21: 58
            0
            Grandfather. Are you here (put quotes)? I also did not expect from VO recognition in idiocy. Yes, I took myself the coefficient of the ratio of falsehood to truth. Now I am pleasing pride (as it were) - not everyone agrees with me. Flag in their hands.
            Grandfather, oh well them!
            Luke. I have no doubt in your knowledge. Why do you spend (mosque) beads?
      3. Aleksandr Tot
        Aleksandr Tot 15 January 2016 21: 42
        +1
        Grandfather. I turn my eyes to the crooked cross-eyed mirror. I am grinning.
        "Pay attention to the delight of the local audience."
        How I like my grandfather's "appeal" to the possibilities of sight to the addressees.
        There is an ancient experiment with kittens who were put in a room with a different strip - horizontal and vertical stripes.
        Kittens growing up in vertical stripes did not see horizontal stripes and vice versa.
        The stools of the periclades and legs absent in life beat the head against the crossbeams.
        "I would not call the article nonsense."
        The question is in the customer, his goals near and far. It doesn’t work, shoots later. That's why it is chaos. Brown, when he counted the energy of particle motion, did not calculate politics.
        It's almost me about the lyrics - the Brownian movement.
    3. Terner38
      Terner38 14 January 2016 08: 28
      +1
      Did you read the article?
  • SAM 5
    SAM 5 14 January 2016 06: 26
    0
    According to the article. It seems that the author says everything correctly. But somehow there is a lot of pathos, somehow picturesquely he writes about everything.
    A simple Russian person from the hinterland not only does not reason on this subject, he does not even think about it. He just lives, works, raises children, and obviously was not (and never will be) in Berlin, and of course he doesn’t sit in front of a PC in different forums.
    The article is not "+" and not "-".
    1. valokordin
      valokordin 14 January 2016 06: 40
      +2
      Quote: SAM 5
      A simple Russian person from the hinterland not only does not reason on this subject, he does not even think about it. He just lives, works, raises children, and obviously was not (and never will be) in Berlin.

      This is how to say, but suddenly the pipe will call.
      1. SAM 5
        SAM 5 14 January 2016 06: 55
        +3
        This is how to say, but suddenly the pipe will call.

        God forbid, of course, but if this happens, then:

        And again on a hike
        The pipe is calling us
        We all stand in line
        And all will go to the sacred battle.
        Rise for faith, Russian land.
    2. Grandfather Luka
      Grandfather Luka 18 January 2016 06: 59
      0
      In Berlin, it can and will be if, as the commander of the Airborne Forces Shamanov once put it, "there is an order from the Supreme Commander-in-Chief and the Minister of Defense" about the possibility of going to New York.
  • valokordin
    valokordin 14 January 2016 06: 39
    +2
    It’s written beautifully, with a soul, it’s interesting to read about themselves, and what patriots living now write about themselves like Chubais, Anal (well, he even struggles, suffers) and the rest are Serdyukov, Vasilyeva and others like them, as well as Shuvalovs, Livanovs, Trutnevs, Sechins and Millers, etc.
    1. EvgNik
      EvgNik 14 January 2016 07: 00
      +3
      Quote: valokordin
      but what about the patriots who live now, like Chubais, Anal (well, he’s even struggling, suffering), and the rest Serdyukov, Vasilyeva and the rest like them, as well as the Shuvalovs, Livanovs, Trutnevs, Sechins and Millers, etc.

      Are they patriots? If so, then patriots of their own pocket, not Russia.
    2. CONTROL
      CONTROL 14 January 2016 08: 41
      0
      Quote: valokordin
      It’s written beautifully, with a soul, it’s interesting to read about ourselves,

      That's just the point - what is interesting about yourself! Is it me - such ?! So still - am I good or - ...?
      ... Ahhh, a dog with him! what has grown has grown! ...
  • asiat_61
    asiat_61 14 January 2016 06: 41
    +1
    Basically it’s noticed exactly, we scold our own, we can, no-no foreigners. Russian always knows: tomorrow it can be worse. With both hands behind.
  • aba
    aba 14 January 2016 06: 51
    0
    Quote: rpek32
    Well, where we do not laughing

    And as we appear there, so immediately look for a place where we are not. winked
  • avva2012
    avva2012 14 January 2016 07: 28
    +1
    Some farmer-reddish farmer in Alabama doesn’t know exactly where New York is, and the Russian knows even how much our rocket will fly to New York. Why send a rocket there? Well, this is a second question, insignificant, we do not waste money on trifles.

    That's for sure. Wake up almost anyone in the middle of the night, without hesitation, he will say, not only how much, but also how far to this very New York. We can swear and argue about anything, but in one we will find understanding, "eh, zhahnut!". Nice article, I would say sincere. And I liked it about the Italians (I agree with Ami du peuple, the author doesn’t say something).
  • Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 14 January 2016 07: 45
    +6
    About stew - to the point! He kept the army stew, from Soviet times, in a jar of grease .... Dug in early 2000 - the whole office ran away for a smell!
    Able to do!
  • gla172
    gla172 14 January 2016 07: 47
    -4
    Not an unambiguous article ,,,,

    "" "" Walking through the evening Berlin, Stirlitz thought about various unpleasant things. Firstly, the Belomor was running out and it had to be economized, which was unbearable for Stirlitz, who was not used to limiting himself. Secondly, I wonder what information he can get from Eva Braun, and whether the Center will allow contact. And, finally, the radio operator Shtirlitsa suddenly fell ill and asked to go home to her husband. All three things were to be reported to the Center. And he did not like to get in touch with the Center Stirlitz.
    Stirlitz’s thoughts were distracted by a group of young discharged women who, giggling loudly, smoked on the corner and looked in his direction.
    Whores, Stirlitz thought.
    "Stirlitz" - thought whores. "" ""
    1. gla172
      gla172 14 January 2016 09: 34
      +4
      Well, people are completely without humor (((((((.....!


      Why are the Russians invincible ..
      When analyzing the Second World War, American military historians discovered a very interesting fact. Namely, in a sudden clash with the Japanese forces, the Americans, as a rule, made decisions much faster and, as a result, won even the superior enemy forces. Having investigated this pattern, scientists came to the conclusion that the average word length for Americans is 5,2 characters, while for the Japanese it is 10,8, therefore, it takes 56% less time to issue orders, which plays an important role in a short battle. For the sake of "interest", they analyzed Russian speech and it turned out that the length of a word in Russian is 7,2 characters per word (on average), however, in critical situations, the Russian-speaking command staff switches to profanity, and the word length is reduced to (!) 3,2 , 32 characters per word. This is due to the fact that some word combinations and even phrases are replaced with one word. For example, the phrase is given: "32nd order to immediately destroy the enemy tank, which is firing at our positions." - "XNUMXnd e @ not for this x @ yu")
  • DREDD
    DREDD 14 January 2016 07: 51
    +1
    A little guarded
    That's why we drink a lot: each glass seems to make the world clearer. Accelerates world processes. He waved a glass - Chamberlain is gone. He waved another - Reagan flew by. The third overturn - we will deal with Merkel. Without a bite.
    Russian means sober!
    1. EvgNik
      EvgNik 14 January 2016 11: 25
      +2
      Quote: DREDD
      Russian means sober!

      I don’t drink it myself, but I don’t blame it either. The righteous in paradise.
  • ovod84
    ovod84 14 January 2016 08: 08
    0
    Russian word itself sounds nice.
  • Pacifist
    Pacifist 14 January 2016 08: 09
    +3
    Nothing so opus, amused. smile
    That's just my opinion is a little different. From my own observations, I deduced a simple answer to our immense main trouble. These are not roads and fools, and both, as it turned out, are missing everywhere in the world. And not thieves and grabbers, this kind of cordon is much more than ours and they steal in such a way that ours never dreamed of. The main trouble, and most likely the reason for the mystery of our souls and our country, is the number of sunny days and temperatures. That is, the climate. I don’t want to argue, this is some simplification, but made over 3 decades of observing what is happening and people. But the article is nothing good. Even the reference to the drink did not warp, but was perceived more as trolling stamps about the country and people.
    1. kalibr
      kalibr 14 January 2016 10: 43
      0
      Klyuchevsky wrote about this, why are you "breaking into open doors", "we all came out of the rye field" - his phrase! Why rye? Climate!
      And the Chinese say: "If you are lazy - this wheat, not rice!" Why? Climate!
    2. EvgNik
      EvgNik 14 January 2016 11: 30
      0
      Quote: Pacifist
      That is, the climate.

      Yes, yes. I went with a taxi driver (he is an Uzbek). Says their roads for 25 years do not require repairs. And we have temperature differences - that's what we have to patch every year. Just tearing up the asphalt.
  • bykoffroman
    bykoffroman 14 January 2016 08: 34
    +1
    Thanks to the author for the article. For all the abomination of desolation in the country, the article remains in a positive mood. It is written in good language, much is subtly noticed, something is rollicking. In general - very Russian. Thank!
  • Mikhail Krapivin
    Mikhail Krapivin 14 January 2016 08: 52
    0
    Complicated impression of the article. It seems to be well written, it seems to have been praised, but the sediment still remained ...
    1. ProstoRus
      ProstoRus 14 January 2016 21: 53
      0
      it looks like you think deeply like something not in Russian
  • avva2012
    avva2012 14 January 2016 08: 58
    0
    The guy asked: “Deutsch?” (“German?”). I replied: “Nine. Rusish ". The guy suddenly became silent and almost pressed his head into his shoulders.

    There she is, genetic memory. I was surprised by something else, but that the author could be confused with someone other than Russian? Himself, because he writes:you’ll find a Tatar, it’s on my father’s side, there are Ukrainians with my mother - where without them? - and somewhere the mysterious Lithuanian great-grandmother lurked.
    1. kalibr
      kalibr 14 January 2016 10: 49
      +3
      I was in St. Petersburg - the police (even the police) slowed down every 50 meters - a Chechen, a passport. In Rostov, Krasnodar they asked - from which village? In Ukraine - "You are clearly from Cherkassy!" Cyprus - Southeast Continental Greek? (It's very cool to be there "continental greek"). And the metro hotel burst into tears - you are my dad! But the Americans say - you look like Mark Twain. And this despite the fact that there were no Greeks in the family-ha-ha. So we can be confused if desired, and ignorance with anyone!
      1. avva2012
        avva2012 14 January 2016 11: 10
        0
        I was repeatedly addressed in Tatar. I am not talking about that. Russian, they say, is defined in Europe, just like we are a European in Russia. And what happens is not only in appearance.
      2. Uncle VasyaSayapin
        Uncle VasyaSayapin 14 January 2016 14: 16
        +1
        It’s not better for me either: here, in the Don and in the Far East, where I used to live, people very often confuse me with their acquaintances, sometimes from this pluses, but sometimes minuses.
      3. Weyland
        Weyland 15 January 2016 00: 44
        +2
        Quote: kalibr
        So we can be confused if desired, and ignorance with anyone!


        Google the story told by the writer Slutsky - how he was mistaken for an Armenian, a Georgian, etc. in the Caucasus. (ICHS, always mistaken for a representative not of their own, but of the neighboring people) ... long, retell for a long time! smile
      4. Weyland
        Weyland 15 January 2016 00: 44
        -1
        Quote: kalibr
        So we can be confused if desired, and ignorance with anyone!


        Google the story told by the writer Slutsky - how he was mistaken for an Armenian, a Georgian, etc. in the Caucasus. (ICHS, always mistaken for a representative not of their own, but of the neighboring people) ... long, retell for a long time! smile
  • igorra
    igorra 14 January 2016 09: 27
    +4
    Quote: Grandfather Luka
    The article is vile. The author is hardly Russian, most likely a Jew. The thesis that Tatarin was found to scratch the Russian was invented by the Jews, and they are relayed by them. Muslims and Orthodox Christians never mixed up intimately, the church did not allow, even in the Soviet period, such marriages were more likely an exception to the rule.

    You are definitely a Jew, since you cannot understand that Russian is primarily a state of mind, faith, spirit, love, and only last but not least nationality. My pedigree can be traced back to the 18th century and the family included: Tatars, Germans, Poles, Czechs, sons added a drop of mother-in-law, her kingdom of heaven, Mordovian blood. And the tales that interethnic marriages were not welcomed in the USSR, there was no need to tell, there were always nationalities. Russians have too big a soul to be afraid of that drop of alien blood that will be introduced into the vast vast sea of ​​the Russian world.
    1. Grandfather Luka
      Grandfather Luka 14 January 2016 10: 05
      0
      I completely agree with you, but behind this pathos lies the refusal of the Russian person in his ethnic identity. After 91g. We were Russians, not Russian I emphasize, Russians, now another thesis, Russian is a state of mind and not nationality. It may already be enough to scoff at a Russian man.
      Ps By the way, I'm not a Jew.
      1. avva2012
        avva2012 14 January 2016 10: 35
        +1
        Ps By the way, I'm not a Jew.
        In my wife’s family, there is a tradition that her great-great-grandmother and her husband did not have children for a long time. Once, a Jewish tailor spent the night with them. And then, after some time, great-grandmother was born.
        This is what I mean. Do not promise. "A bird leaves no footprints in the sky, a fish in water, and a man in a woman."
        1. Grandfather Luka
          Grandfather Luka 14 January 2016 11: 18
          0
          The experience of your relatives does not interest me. Everything is in order with mine.
          1. avva2012
            avva2012 14 January 2016 11: 48
            +1
            One thing is good that there are only two people like you who are "all right".
            1. Grandfather Luka
              Grandfather Luka 14 January 2016 18: 50
              -1
              Do not flatter yourself.
              1. avva2012
                avva2012 15 January 2016 05: 17
                +2
                I rejoice, not flatter myself.
                Even if there is anyone, it is still a tiny minority. In general, there are not many problem people in the population. It is noticed that, like people, they hardly distribute their genotype. Deformation, apparently not only in the brain, but also much lower. What affects what is a philosophical question. Either being determines consciousness, or vice versa.
                1. Grandfather Luka
                  Grandfather Luka 16 January 2016 14: 22
                  0
                  And this is how, for Russians, consciousness determines being, but for all chimeras, opportunists and other evil spirits, on the contrary, being determines consciousness. Your doubt on this score characterizes you uniquely.
            2. Aleksandr Tot
              Aleksandr Tot 16 January 2016 18: 23
              0
              Dear avva2012. Is there really only one thing that pleases you? I sympathize.
          2. kalibr
            kalibr 14 January 2016 19: 10
            +1
            Oh, do not promise! In Solovyov's "Khoja Nasreddin" it is said about this: "Women do not admit their infidelities to anyone!" Therefore, one cannot say anything 100%. Mustache we are people!
            1. Grandfather Luka
              Grandfather Luka 15 January 2016 09: 58
              +1
              And which is Soloviev? Is it not the one whose trills on the radio to hear yes on the box the party’s politics are brought to the masses which, also God's chosen, is a juggler with words. Well, links to him do not interest me. This is your authority, not mine.
              1. avva2012
                avva2012 15 January 2016 10: 02
                +1
                And which is Soloviev? Is it not the one whose trills on the radio to hear yes on the box the party’s politics are brought to the masses which, also God's chosen, is a juggler with words.
                “The Tale of Khoja Nasreddin” - the dilogy of L. V. Solovyov, the main character is Khoja Nasreddin. The dilogy consists of two books: 1. “Troublemaker” (1940) 2. “The Enchanted Prince” (1950; published in 1956 year)
                He secured the place occupied by Solovyov in Russian literature by writing a book about the semi-legendary folk sage who lived in the 13th century; the basis of this book is about 300 of funny incidents from the life of Khoja Nasreddin that have come down to our time. The image of Nasruddin in Soloviev’s book has preserved the traditional mixture of cheating and nobility aimed at protecting the oppressed, wisdom and love of adventure; and in the second part of the book, the fantastic-entertaining side is greatly weakened. The episodes from the life of Nasreddin freely processed by the author preserve the style inherent in Eastern literature with its imagery and spectacular expressiveness
                1. Grandfather Luka
                  Grandfather Luka 15 January 2016 12: 59
                  -2
                  Thank you enlightened!
                  1. avva2012
                    avva2012 15 January 2016 14: 01
                    0
                    It's my pleasure. Eat on health. You can contact with me any time.
              2. kalibr
                kalibr 15 January 2016 22: 30
                0
                What ignorance is, grandfather, ashamed! This is a famous Soviet writer, died back in 62, the author of wonderful books about Khoja Nasreddin.
        2. kalibr
          kalibr 14 January 2016 18: 58
          +1
          Wonderful! I’ll make it an epigraph in another article about haplogroups! Still to know what kind of people say that?
        3. Rivares
          Rivares 14 January 2016 20: 13
          0
          Quote: avva2012
          "A bird leaves no footprints in the sky, a fish in water, and a man in a woman."

          Old Jewish proverb. For Jews, Jewry is transmitted to women. From a Jewish point of view, your great-grandmother is a goy.
          1. avva2012
            avva2012 15 January 2016 05: 22
            0
            This is not a saying, these are the words of King Solomon.
            From a Jewish point of view, your great-grandmother is a goy.
            Not my great-grandmother, but wives... I have nothing against it, with her in general with the national question, everything is fine. Mother-in-law says, Cossacks, we are. And who is not mixed in the "Cossacks"! I like.
      2. kalibr
        kalibr 14 January 2016 19: 07
        +2
        Why are you so scared of being Jewish? Is this a shameful stigma? Weren't there Jews who gave both their strength and talent to Russia? Sometimes more Russians than some Russians themselves? No? There were none? Somehow Mayakovsky came to Penza (even before 1914) to lecture on Imagism. In a yellow jacket, green trousers, with a carrot in his buttonhole. Well, the reaction of the audience is understandable ... Outback! Shouts, noise ... Then they ask him: "Aren't you a Jew?" (well, clearly, since "sky", then a Jew). Mayakovsky: "With Russians - Russian, with Georgians - Georgians, with Jews - a Jew!" "And with the fools?" - they shout. "This is my first time with fools!" he replied.
        1. Kaiten
          Kaiten 14 January 2016 19: 33
          +1
          Quote: kalibr
          Why are you so afraid of Jewry?

          Yes, usually ardent anti-Semites such as Zhirinovsky or Bykov (Zilbertrud) have Jewish roots. What to do, not everyone copes with children's complexes.
    2. Grandfather Luka
      Grandfather Luka 14 January 2016 18: 49
      -3
      But you are sure that under certain circumstances you will not deny your Russian spirit in favor of the Tatars, Germans, Poles, Chekhov. You will not forget about the presence of the Russian spirit in yourselves. And in general, are you sure that you have it, have you checked it?
      1. kalibr
        kalibr 14 January 2016 18: 59
        +2
        Even the apostles denied under "certain circumstances" ...
        1. Grandfather Luka
          Grandfather Luka 14 January 2016 19: 15
          -1
          The history of the Great Patriotic War says something else. As, in fact, the history of other wars. Not all Judas are, no matter how you wish.
          1. kalibr
            kalibr 14 January 2016 21: 45
            +1
            No, dear, she says that people are people. Do you know how many defectors there were to the Germans during the same 42 year? Not captured, namely defectors? The number of defectors officially registered by the German side in May 1942 amounted to 10 962 people, June - 9136, July - 5453, August - 15 X, September - 345 15, October - 011 13, November - 299, December - 4837. And in total for this period of 5276 of the year - 1942 79 people. This is data from the MO archive. And what is this talking about? Only that there are more good people than bad ones, but there are also many bad ones!
            Quote: Grandfather Luka
            Not all Judas are, no matter how you wish.
            I desire Judas? "Why are you smoking grandfather?" Even the apostles denied under "certain circumstances" ... - This phrase means WHAT I WISH ALL TO BE JUDAS? Was Russian your second foreign language at school? Don't you understand the meaning of the words?
            1. Grandfather Luka
              Grandfather Luka 15 January 2016 07: 30
              -2
              I understand perfectly that this is an attempt to justify betrayal by human weakness. The requirement to treat understanding with understanding is vice. Understand and forgive. Oh no. I am not a liberal, rather an anti-liberal, and appeal to tolerance, turning to me, is a futile exercise.
              1. kalibr
                kalibr 15 January 2016 08: 47
                +1
                No, I wrote about the misunderstanding of the meaning of the words correctly. Where is the call for tolerance? There is a statement of the fact that there are always and will be% of "bad people". This is a given, betrayal was and will be due to weakness or for some other reason. But why did you decide that I am justifying him? Where is it written about? "To understand and forgive" - ​​you wrote it! I would write differently - understand - YES, - but FORGIVE ??? Here is how the LAW SPEAKS. We cannot judge or punish by concepts. This is for the ancient Rus, please. Now there is a law! That's in accordance with it and must act! Everything is very simple!
                1. Grandfather Luka
                  Grandfather Luka 15 January 2016 10: 09
                  -1
                  Therefore, you also have problems with the thought process that have lost your concepts, or maybe you never had them. Live by the law, I live by concepts and by conscience, like many decent people, of whom I, thank God, know a lot.
                  1. kalibr
                    kalibr 15 January 2016 13: 07
                    +1
                    Brother in law, huh?
                    1. avva2012
                      avva2012 15 January 2016 14: 05
                      +1
                      No, not like that. But, show off writhing. How to live, already teaches. Let's look further, it became interesting.
                      1. Grandfather Luka
                        Grandfather Luka 15 January 2016 14: 45
                        -3
                        There will be nothing further. Tired of me. Farewell.
                      2. avva2012
                        avva2012 15 January 2016 15: 25
                        +1
                        It's a pity. Interesting case. At least I could say what I wanted. Site collector? He stayed, shit, left. Goldfinch, he is, goldfinch.
                  2. Grandfather Luka
                    Grandfather Luka 15 January 2016 14: 19
                    0
                    What else can you hear from a fool?
                    1. kalibr
                      kalibr 15 January 2016 16: 50
                      +1
                      Leaving go! Simple rule, huh?
            2. MrK
              MrK 17 January 2016 00: 55
              -1
              Quote: Grandfather Luka
              I am not a liberal, rather an anti-liberal, and appeal to tolerance, turning to me, is a futile exercise.

              Then you my friend just educated goldfinch.
  • Sanglier
    Sanglier 14 January 2016 09: 39
    +3
    I won’t say anything about the Tatars in the family, I just don’t know, but my wife’s great-great-great-great-grandfather brought a Turkish woman from the campaign. After that, the black-browed beauties went to the Chinsky family. T.ch. in RUSSIAN blood which is just not mixed !!! But ... IN RUSSIAN blood !!!
  • mikh-korsakov
    mikh-korsakov 14 January 2016 09: 50
    +1
    In vain the author is so on the Russian people, it's all banter. It is not so important what the Russians talk about when drunk, there is no need to be sad or happy about this, this is all banter in the spirit of Zadornov. And what about the author: nuclear icebreakers, Gagarin's flight, let’s even take the flight of the Buran, is that drunk or blown by the wind. However, one could listen to Zadornov's banter and read the author with interest. But the time is now troubling. The whole country wakes up with the thought, and what is our dollar rate today, and they explain to us, they say, volatile. Is it possible to do so. to stand like a young stallion. War has been declared against us. So is it possible to imagine that Stalin during the war was interested in the course of the Reichsmark. Something is wrong with the economy, but we are nodded for oil. Under Soviet rule, 1 dollar - 60 kopecks. And nothing lived - and flew on domestic planes, despite all the strangeness and absurdity of the then government. I remember, for example, weekly political information. on which they explained to us, they say, Reagan byaka. and the atomic bomb is cocoa. It was funny, but trains were running and domestic planes were flying.
    1. Grandfather Luka
      Grandfather Luka 14 January 2016 11: 22
      +1
      I'm talking about the same, this anecdote caused such a storm of delight. Golimaya Zadornovschina. Zhirinovsky is also a mountain for the Russian man, but he knows his business. "they started talking about patriotism, be careful not to steal something."
  • Baloo
    Baloo 14 January 2016 10: 01
    +1
    We all argue how we can improve our lives, Russia ahead ...
    My recipe is simple. everyone should realize their responsibility for what is happening in the country around them in their place.
    Do what you have to do. It’s so convenient for me to live, live by the rules, try to do everything right, although this will seem to someone a naive statement. hi
  • ruskih
    ruskih 14 January 2016 10: 40
    +3
    Quote: Grandfather Luka
    Muslims and Orthodox never mixed in blood, the church did not allow, even in the Soviet period such marriages were more likely an exception to the rule.

    It was during the Soviet era that such marriages were commonplace. What kind of church were you talking about in the 50-60-70s. Even in the north, among the friends of my parents, two families were Tatar - Russian. And men held fairly high posts.
    1. Heimdall49
      Heimdall49 14 January 2016 20: 25
      0
      It was during the Soviet era that such marriages were commonplace

      A strange statement, given that in Soviet times it was not really either Orthodox or Muslims (the latter to a lesser extent, of course).
      1. ruskih
        ruskih 14 January 2016 22: 07
        +2
        You probably didn't understand me. I wanted to say the same thing. We didn’t even think about whether you are Orthodox or Muslim.
    2. Grandfather Luka
      Grandfather Luka 15 January 2016 13: 20
      +1
      Here you are, Belarus, the soul of a man, the only one who answers does not spray poisonous saliva. Much more Russian than those with whom I had to chat here. Very glad.
      1. ruskih
        ruskih 15 January 2016 14: 15
        +3
        I am Russian married to a Belarusian.
        1. Grandfather Luka
          Grandfather Luka 15 January 2016 14: 40
          0
          Sorry, the favorable atmosphere of the republic left its mark on you. Very nice.
          1. ruskih
            ruskih 15 January 2016 16: 24
            +2
            I forgive. Unfortunately only with the years, we become wiser. And you do not worry about the cons. How many people have so many opinions. And your pseudonym on the subconscious mind is perceived by many negatively. Good luck.
      2. MrK
        MrK 17 January 2016 00: 59
        0
        Quote: Grandfather Luka
        Belarus, the soul of man

        Colleagues. He is back. Seen the wind has changed.
        1. Grandfather Luka
          Grandfather Luka 18 January 2016 11: 26
          +1
          Colleagues are clearly not about your company. You see the confused shop.
        2. Grandfather Luka
          Grandfather Luka 18 January 2016 11: 26
          0
          Colleagues are clearly not about your company. You see the confused shop.
  • xBoris
    xBoris 14 January 2016 10: 54
    +2
    Anyway !!!
    I liked how the idea is written and the essence of the idea ..!
    I share.
  • The black
    The black 14 January 2016 11: 37
    +2
    Quote: nimboris
    Siberia is power! Tomsk is the student capital of Siberia.

    Tomsk is probably the student capital of Russia. In Tomsk, you can get an excellent technical education. I think that it is one of the best in the world.
    1. avva2012
      avva2012 15 January 2016 05: 29
      0
      I agree. But the medical university is also good there.
  • ruskih
    ruskih 14 January 2016 11: 49
    +2
    Many thanks to the author for the article. Thanks for the positive in every line. By the mind you understand that you live already abroad, but by your heart this “abroad” is not. The feeling is very familiar when you return home from abroad. Only, 20 minutes to this house, and oh, how far away to the house of childhood and youth. It started to blow, it became warm when I had read about “the former Pavlina Vinogradova” in other comments. It turns out how little a person needs for positive emotions. It’s funny to read the comments Russian- not Russian. From the fact that I do not live in Russia, has become less Russian? What a stupid thing. It’s even funnier to read about ancestors. I think everyone’s cocktail be healthy, only someone, in fact, Russian is not embarrassed, but proud of their ancestors, like my mother is Don Cossacks, and my father (kingdom to him heaven) was proud of pomors and. .., and in the blood of those and those oh how many more others. And again, hooked on vodka, here the main thing is not vodka, but the state of the Soul. Well, all a Happy New Year!
  • Friends
    Friends 14 January 2016 12: 17
    +4
    Quote: guzik007
    because Russia is so big that the Russian ethnos is plastic and fluid, and each time. coming to new lands. tried not to burn and kill, but to draw new peoples into itself through mixed marriages. That's why there are a bit of Evenki or Yakutia in Buryatia slanted, dark-skinned men who proudly speak Russian


    I agree - 100%.

    Quote: Grandfather Luka
    I completely agree with you, but behind this pathos lies the refusal of the Russian person in his ethnic identity. After 91g. We were Russians, not Russian I emphasize, Russians, now another thesis, Russian is a state of mind and not nationality. It may already be enough to scoff at a Russian man.


    I remember, in the Gorbachev period, and in the 90s, there were also calls to stop mocking the Russian man ... and How it ended ... Yeltsin and his team came (not at all Russian, for the most part) ... And mocked everyone like that that we are still raking ...

    And yet, an interesting paradox that is often overlooked. History testifies that it is not representatives of their nationality who come to power "on the shoulders" of the most radical nationalists, but representatives of the "God's chosen people", which, as a rule, are called upon by "guardians of national identity" to fight.

    There are many similar examples.

    In addition, such ideas are harmful to a multi-ethnic state ... For they lead to its inevitable collapse.

    There are also many examples.
    1. junker
      junker 15 January 2016 04: 15
      +2
      In Russia, more than 80 percent of Russians. By all standards, Russia is a mono-ethnic country. We do not need to talk about multi-ethnicity, thereby justifying the Islamization of Russia.
  • ruskih
    ruskih 14 January 2016 13: 37
    +3
    Stunned. Thank you Russians for the cons. It can be seen that this is your attitude towards the Russians.
    1. Grandfather Luka
      Grandfather Luka 14 January 2016 19: 24
      -2
      It seems that here most of the logs are sitting. Therefore, such a bulk went, hurt for the living, and questioned their article. I draw conclusions about this resource.
      1. Grandfather Luka
        Grandfather Luka 15 January 2016 13: 05
        0
        Although probably not lumps, I didn’t climb under their skin from the very beginning.
    2. avva2012
      avva2012 15 January 2016 05: 33
      +2
      ruskih
      No minuses put others.
      They say those about whom kalibr wrote in a comment, in the words of Mayakovsky.
      1. ruskih
        ruskih 15 January 2016 10: 46
        +2
        avva2012 (2)
        Thanks for the support.
        1. avva2012
          avva2012 15 January 2016 11: 18
          +3
          Please.
          I, myself, have not been on the site for a long time. I like. Members of the forum are toothy, but most are very wonderful people. An extremely small part of the visitors, for what they come, I do not understand. What can you do, "the wind blew from the sea ...".
          Good luck, with the coming "Epiphany", well, or with the past holidays. hi
          1. ruskih
            ruskih 15 January 2016 14: 10
            +3
            I also registered recently, although I have been reading it for a long time. It is unfortunate that many wonderful members of the forum are already here. And good luck to you.
          2. Heimdall47
            Heimdall47 15 January 2016 14: 50
            0
            Quote: avva2012
            Please.
            I, myself, have not been on the site for a long time. I like. Members of the forum are toothy, but most are very wonderful people. An extremely small part of the visitors, for what they come, I do not understand. What can you do, "the wind blew from the sea ...".
            Good luck, with the coming "Epiphany", well, or with the past holidays. hi

            The site is wonderful, just kicked out of it for nothing. I was deported yesterday - I had to change passwords, attendance and return. And how we sincerely discussed the Negroes with you)) So you haven’t finished it yet.
  • vovashturman
    vovashturman 14 January 2016 16: 51
    +1
    How sickened up are these pathological teetotalers.
  • Comrade Glebov
    Comrade Glebov 14 January 2016 16: 51
    +4
    Quote: 24rus
    In Siberia for many years there are definitely no all kinds of purely Russian links.

    And they have no hot water and soap there to become purely Russian? Or again "Aryan" blood leaped up that Shoigu was already a Tuvan, Wasserman was a Jew, and Stalin had become suspiciously "non-Russian"? And many thanks to the author of the article, many things were noticed correctly. And the fact that the Russian people are not one of the Slavic ethnic groups, the Russian people are a multiethnic supranational phenomenon (Ukrainians, Buryats, Kazakhs and other Latvians are part of our great super ethnos). And the fact that others find fault with our Motherland is to be weaned off, but constructive criticism of our own "stocks" should be carried out systematically.
  • Bersaglieri
    Bersaglieri 14 January 2016 18: 32
    0
    The title is megaproof. Respect to the author!
  • Old warrior
    Old warrior 14 January 2016 18: 36
    +5
    I myself am the son of Russian and Tatar. and I am RUSSIAN! And RUSSIAN nowadays - in spite of the terrible mixture of blood - the Whole Person, holding the entire globe in his hands. Only we and no one else are destined to save this ungrateful WORLD.
  • Fedor and Co.
    Fedor and Co. 14 January 2016 18: 49
    +5
    I love Russia, Primorsky Krai, Vladivostok and our SEA. And if it is difficult for our country, I won’t whine, but go and plant a garden (as in the nineties-five children were in their arms and ZP were paid on the defenses with delays and in parts). love for the motherland can not affect the dollar and other nonsense ... it's like love for MOTHER.
    I liked the article - in it you will recognize not only your portrait, but also many acquaintances and friends.
    I bring up four sons and a daughter in love for the motherland! and I consider it my duty.
  • Santjaga_Garka
    Santjaga_Garka 14 January 2016 19: 14
    +1
    "Every Russian scolds his country for whatever it is worth. Thieves and scoundrels are in power, they have stolen everything that can be stolen, there is no one to believe, terrible roads, no law, no future, entirely cursed days, dead souls, just throw yourself off a cliff into the Volga! I curse, I don’t regret words ... "

    And I love my Motherland, I just love everything! And I will never tire of saying thanks to the Lord for having been born in RUSSIA and RUSSIAN, that I live in the Urals, thank you, Lord ...