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Armchair "Martin-Baker US16E" for F-35 sent for revision

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In the US, work continues on improving (bringing to mind) the “stuffing” of the newest multi-purpose military aircraft F-35. Magazine Defense News reports that the developers are trying to finalize the pilot's seat. The completion of this element of the "filling", as reported by the publication, will take at least two years. Begin the process of finalizing the chair Martin-Baker US16E started after during the ejection tests it was found out that the seat could seriously injure a pilot with a relatively small body weight (this is a mass less than 61 kg).


Armchair "Martin-Baker US16E" for F-35 sent for revision


A large risk of damage to the cervical vertebrae of a pilot with a relatively low body mass appears at the time of opening the parachute. In this regard, the Pentagon initially decided not to allow pilots weighing up to 61 kg before piloting the F-35. Subsequently, the developers were sent a wish aimed at changing the mechanism of ejection.

New improvements will add to the cost of the entire project about 2 billion more dollars. The total amount of the project to create aircraft F-35, which are already produced in small batches, but constantly find defects and flaws, already exceeds 100 billion dollars!

Only the helmet of the pilot of the F-35 aircraft is estimated at an average of 700 thousand dollars. The helmet has a system for duplicating information from sensors and monitors of a combat vehicle for the convenience of controlling the aircraft and targeting it to the target.
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  1. AdekvatNICK
    AdekvatNICK 13 January 2016 12: 38 New
    14
    the pilot in the photo was not sickly bombed laughing
    1. vlad66
      vlad66 13 January 2016 12: 46 New
      15
      Yes, it turns out a golden airplane.
      Quote: AdekvatNICK
      the pilot in the photo was not sickly bombed laughing

      This is to speed up hi good
      1. Lyapis
        Lyapis 13 January 2016 12: 50 New
        +9
        the pilot in the photo was not sickly bombed laughing

        Is it a pilot !? And I thought that this was the reaction of customers to another flaw. wassat
      2. SAM 5
        SAM 5 13 January 2016 12: 59 New
        +4
        No one else saw this pilot.
        1. ILIA
          ILIA 13 January 2016 18: 15 New
          +1
          Negro planted))) tester)) .. who considers them))
          1. shuhartred
            shuhartred 14 January 2016 02: 10 New
            +1
            Quote: ILIA
            Negro planted))) tester)) .. who considers them))

            Nah negros all "Abrams" Charges
    2. little girl15
      little girl15 13 January 2016 12: 48 New
      10
      Poor Yankees will bring the plane to mind, it will be necessary to work out another generation. The eternal cut of the budget ...
      1. cniza
        cniza 13 January 2016 12: 52 New
        +4
        If only a helmet costs 700 thousand, then it is clear why this plane is "golden".
        1. Starover_Z
          Starover_Z 13 January 2016 13: 08 New
          +4
          Quote: cniza
          If only a helmet costs 700 thousand, then it is clear why this plane is "golden".

          The weight of this "gadget" has already been given here, I don't remember how long - Yandex "found" that 1,6 kg.
          We divide 700 000 dollars by 1600 grams and we receive 437,5 dollars!
          It seems gold didn’t lie near here !!!
          1. lelikas
            lelikas 13 January 2016 13: 12 New
            12
            Serdyukov nervously smokes aside and cries bitterly - he was born in the wrong country ....
            Two lard for remaking a chair, Carl - two lard!
            1. SAM 5
              SAM 5 13 January 2016 13: 33 New
              0
              Serdyukov nervously smokes aside and cries bitterly - he was born in the wrong country

              It is unlikely. To be an advisor to the general director of "Russian Technologies" is also not sickly.
          2. sisa29
            sisa29 13 January 2016 13: 59 New
            +3
            Crammed with electronics and sensors, with a carbon fiber body and night vision device, a helmet weighing 2,25 kg transmits real-time contextual information about the surrounding area. Turning his head, the pilot can even look “through” the skin of the aircraft. The helmet receives information from six electro-optical sensors of the Distributed Aperture System (DAS) mounted on the fighter skin.

            It takes four hours to customize the helmet for an individual user (a two-day procedure divided into two hours). It is necessary that the augmented reality display (visor) is located exactly 2 millimeters from the center of the pupil. The fighter will not function if the helmet is defective, all systems are closely integrated and do not work in isolation. No spare parts. Each pilot is given exactly one copy.
            1. Captain45
              Captain45 13 January 2016 15: 16 New
              +2
              Quote: sisa29
              The fighter will not function if the helmet is defective, all systems are closely integrated and do not work in isolation. No spare parts. Each pilot is given exactly one copy.

              Ie about ... sorry, I lost the helmet or the display broke and EVERYTHING !!! crying The plane will not take off? wassat Urgently distribute and teach African-American children to use the terrible Russian weapons-HILLS. US Air Force Khan! laughing
        2. Sura
          Sura 13 January 2016 13: 11 New
          +1
          If only a helmet costs 700 thousand, then it is clear why this plane is "golden".

          In addition, the news reported that it turned out to be too heavy, and when bailing out the pilot, he can roll his head, they will refine it.
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    3. vodolaz
      vodolaz 13 January 2016 13: 22 New
      +1
      Here's how to cut money))))
      1. lysyj bob
        lysyj bob 13 January 2016 13: 33 New
        0
        In this case, for each pilot an individual helmet.
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 13 January 2016 14: 07 New
          0
          There is already another helmet and it is not individual - it costs $ 400000.
    4. Persistent
      Persistent 13 January 2016 17: 12 New
      0
      This was the layout. At one time they asked our "Zvezda JSC" to develop a catapult. Our order was fulfilled and the USA did not fully pay for it. Now let them themselves "give birth" in attempts and screams !!! bully An analogue of our K-36 d 3,5 is too tough for them ... good
  2. VladimS
    VladimS 13 January 2016 12: 41 New
    +4
    work continues to improve (bring to mind) the "filling"

    More improvements!
    Spend money gentlemen pi-sy!
    1. Inok10
      Inok10 13 January 2016 12: 43 New
      +5
      Quote: VladimS
      More improvements!
      Spend money gentlemen pi-sy!

      .. and another 2 years and another + 2 billion to the total value .. hi
    2. andre
      andre 13 January 2016 13: 23 New
      +1
      And what not to spend, they will still print, and we will buy up and put in a mattress laughing .
  3. afdjhbn67
    afdjhbn67 13 January 2016 12: 41 New
    +3
    pilots with body weight up to 61 kg

    Are there such people? especially in the states?
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 13 January 2016 13: 01 New
      -1
      In the States - hardly.
      But the plane is widely exported.
      Suddenly, the Vietnamese want to buy?
      1. SAM 5
        SAM 5 13 January 2016 13: 09 New
        +2
        Suddenly, the Vietnamese want to buy?

        Or a wild Filipino dwarf tribe.
      2. Truth
        Truth 13 January 2016 13: 23 New
        +1
        Quote: voyaka uh
        Suddenly, the Vietnamese want to buy?

        Why think so bad about Vietnamese?
        They then from spare parts from the downed Fu-35s, pick up the lope they need airplanes ...
        Our technical specialists will help them in this matter.
        And how to tie ...
        which are already produced in small batches

        with your
        But the plane is widely exported.
      3. Altona
        Altona 13 January 2016 13: 58 New
        +1
        Quote: voyaka uh
        Suddenly, the Vietnamese want to buy?

        ------------------------
        Why do they need such an expensive memorial? They have F-4s in museums enough ... laughing
  4. Primus pilus
    Primus pilus 13 January 2016 12: 41 New
    +2
    F-35 airplane dream is simple. laughing
    1. Altona
      Altona 13 January 2016 13: 59 New
      0
      Quote: Primus Pilus
      F-35 airplane dream is simple.

      --------------------------
      We would have that kind of money ... I dream ..)))
  5. aszzz888
    aszzz888 13 January 2016 12: 42 New
    +1
    Well, another hundred lard will be thrown out, you look, he is already and no one needs Nafik! laughing
  6. carabiner sks
    carabiner sks 13 January 2016 12: 44 New
    +2
    Spend 2 of the year and 2 billion $ on a chair! Are these real calculations or with an eye on capital cut?
  7. AdekvatNICK
    AdekvatNICK 13 January 2016 12: 48 New
    0
    The Pentagon initially decided not to allow pilots weighing up to 61 kg before piloting the F-35.

    Well, only Asians weigh less.
  8. SAM 5
    SAM 5 13 January 2016 12: 48 New
    +2
    New improvements will add about $ 2 billion to the cost of the entire project.

    Forgot πndos about yet another refinement - a machine with cola. laughing
    1. Mikhail Krapivin
      Mikhail Krapivin 13 January 2016 13: 18 New
      +1
      But what about! Without chilled Coca-Cola, no American agrees to fight! And without six-layer toilet paper and air conditioning!
  9. AdekvatNICK
    AdekvatNICK 13 January 2016 12: 49 New
    +6
    and how they invested in developing a pen that writes in space. Ours just brought along a simple pencil. laughing
    1. Wedmak
      Wedmak 13 January 2016 12: 59 New
      -1
      Do not produce fakes. They took a pencil, but they bought 60 pens.
    2. SAM 5
      SAM 5 13 January 2016 13: 38 New
      +2
      NASA did not spend millions of dollars on the development of a pen writing in space, and a pencil was enough. But when Paul Fisher, at his own expense, invented a sealed pen that not only writes in space but also in the depths of the ocean, NASA bought 400 pens for $ 6 apiece.
  10. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 13 January 2016 12: 51 New
    17
    Is there anything you need to finish in this pepelats?
  11. newcomer
    newcomer 13 January 2016 12: 53 New
    +5
    and another couple of mililliks for this “product”. a suitcase without a handle: it’s hard to carry it is a pity to leave.
    1. iliitchitch
      iliitchitch 14 January 2016 20: 54 New
      0
      Quote: newbie
      and another couple of mililliks for this “product”. a suitcase without a handle: it’s hard to carry it is a pity to leave.


      Yes bullshit, Australia, Korea and other fuckers will sponsor this iron quantitatively. The funny thing is that against the T-50 is "that the carpenter is against the carpenter." It seems that the chelas live in one cut, it is wrong, we have "wundervaFflay" in our bosom ALREADY more, or there will be more.
      What shall we do after your collapse (we’ll climb into the hole ourselves), that’s the question.
  12. pts-m
    pts-m 13 January 2016 12: 57 New
    +1
    The main thing is that the excuses for failures should be easily digestible for tax payers. The money will be printed and bought up by "wise men" of other countries.
  13. Corsair
    Corsair 13 January 2016 13: 01 New
    +2
    what Isn’t it easier to pick pilots with a weight of more than 70 kg or to hang weights on the lungs?
    Well stupid ... Zadornov was not mistaken.
    1. GRAY
      GRAY 13 January 2016 13: 19 New
      +1
      Quote: Corsair
      g or hang weights on the lungs?

      Bronik can be put on him a kilogram for 10-12.
      1. SAM 5
        SAM 5 13 January 2016 13: 46 New
        +1
        Bronik can be put on him a kilogram for 10-12.

        And a heavy diving suit (suddenly flops into the water) Everything must be provided for.
    2. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 13 January 2016 17: 05 New
      +1
      Ori louder, suicide. Do you even understand what you said? You threw serious people to serious grandmothers, betrayed your homeland and robbed your beloved mother-in-law of a fur coat and rest in Italy. In order
      1. The US military-industrial complex has lost "lards.
      2. The enemies of the motherland will receive the plane 2 years earlier.
      3. There will be no patent in your name. Hello family.
      Well that ...
  14. tso1973
    tso1973 13 January 2016 13: 01 New
    +6
    some garbage! I myself am a parachutist with experience, and the greater the weight, the stronger the dynamic blow when opening the parachute, since the free fall speed is greater! Most likely because of the low weight, the speed of ejection from the cockpit is higher and because of this the overload is higher or because of thinness pilot's belts during bailout do not tighten the body tightly! No more options!
    1. Black
      Black 13 January 2016 13: 14 New
      0
      Quote: tso1973
      since there is more free fall speed!


      And where did you find the "free fall"?
    2. abrakadabre
      abrakadabre 13 January 2016 13: 40 New
      0
      Rather, in a pilot with a weight deficit, weak muscles and dynamic jerks hurt him. First, in the ass at the moment of bailout, then with straps at the moment of opening the parachute.
    3. Altona
      Altona 13 January 2016 14: 02 New
      0
      Quote: tso1973
      some garbage! I myself am a parachutist with experience, and the more weight, the stronger the dynamic blow when opening the parachute, since the greater the speed of free fall!

      ----------------------
      You probably said about the slowdown that it is happening dramatically ...
    4. WUA 518
      WUA 518 13 January 2016 14: 52 New
      +1
      Quote: tso1973
      Most likely, due to its low weight, the rate of ejection from the cab is higher

      Most likely you are right, when leaving the chair and introducing the parachute, the "overlap" of the head is not weak.
      1. Captain45
        Captain45 13 January 2016 15: 22 New
        0
        Quote: WUA 518
        Most likely you are right, when leaving the chair and introducing the parachute, the "overlap" of the head is not weak.

        So the pilot’s head is tighter to the seat, you can tie it around the neck so that blood from the nose does not go repeat
  15. Black
    Black 13 January 2016 13: 12 New
    0
    Quote: tso1973
    since there is more free fall speed!

    The speed of "free" fall for the fat and the thin differ little. The overloads when opening the parachute are different.
    Only here there is no "free" fall. Did not notice?
  16. McLuha-MacLeod
    McLuha-MacLeod 13 January 2016 13: 13 New
    +2
    Then it turns out that the wheels are not round or the smell from the engine is not democratic
  17. vvp2412
    vvp2412 13 January 2016 13: 14 New
    +4
    Guys! Well that's all .... Serdyukov didn’t even dream of such drinks!
    2 years of refinement for 2 lard bucks seats !!!!!
    Why are old bad? Or with F-22?
    A pilot weighing less than 61kg! what drischi should be !?
    They made a decision - not to allow drischi to fly! Here is the solution! As in the ring - weight categories!
    Well, either in the submarine fleet or in the tank crews there are their own growth parameters!
    2 of the year they make money, they make money, they spit, they will put it like that, they will completely forbid flying drivers to fly on it, and 2 lard is affordable!
    Handsome!
    1. Corsair
      Corsair 13 January 2016 14: 24 New
      0
      Quote: vvp2412
      2 of the year they make money, they make money, they spit, they will put it like that, they will completely forbid flying drivers to fly on it, and 2 lard is affordable!

      laughing It’s impossible to completely forbid the flying of droshchi - they will probably be trying to juggle him and the Japs and South Koreans, and there the people are flimsy and small. Plus, their men were stoned, and the girls, on the contrary, will be for the right to download what is intolerant of some men to fly on Fu35.
    2. sisa29
      sisa29 13 January 2016 16: 26 New
      0
      And if out of two billion, at least one went to prizes for scientific designers, engineers, and workers? In addition to the salary .... we just want to think that they are all bad and live with thoughts only as if to cut free money.
      But after all, many of us have seen their documentaries and know how much Americans scrupulously relate to labor productivity, organization of production, and deadlines for order fulfillment. And now add to this the generous funding paid by buyers from all over the world.
  18. Mikhail Krapivin
    Mikhail Krapivin 13 January 2016 13: 15 New
    0
    "New improvements will add about $ 2 billion to the cost of the entire project. The total cost of the project to create F-35 aircraft, which are already being produced in small batches, but constantly discovering defects and deficiencies, already exceeds $ 100 billion!"

    This is what I understand, the amount is the sum! Both round and beautiful, and there are so many zeros that you’ll get tired of counting :)
  19. Igor Olegovich
    Igor Olegovich 13 January 2016 13: 19 New
    +2
    How much it was necessary to eat peas!
  20. Great-grandfather of Zeus
    Great-grandfather of Zeus 13 January 2016 13: 19 New
    -1
    Che torment, let them put there a genecological chair, from pilots or pilots, there will be no end.
    1. sisa29
      sisa29 13 January 2016 16: 30 New
      0
      You would have respected Petrosyan in the "distorting mirror" to write comments, and not to discuss the new weapons of enemies on a serious website. Just do not say that this is humor, stupidity with a taint of vulgarity !!
  21. Zomanus
    Zomanus 13 January 2016 13: 28 New
    0
    And I think that the USA is doing the right thing, that this project is not abandoning.
    It is necessary to properly recheck, modify and redo it.
    And no matter how long it takes, effort and money.
    US pilots deserve a masterpiece, and everything else is a compromise.
    Sarcasm, if ...
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 13 January 2016 14: 56 New
      0
      No sarcasm ...
      You said it right.
      Su-27 was also born in agony, and it turned out to be a masterpiece.
      And how many F-16 crashed during the training of pilots
      control a completely unusual 4th generation airplane!

      To make the cross fit Asians (or women)
      Worth investing. They will come back in sales.
      1. NEXUS
        NEXUS 13 January 2016 16: 43 New
        +1
        Quote: voyaka uh
        They will come back in sales.

        At the same time, we have another 2 years to reduce the backlog of LFI. Yes and PAK FA to bring to the series without fuss.
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 13 January 2016 16: 53 New
          0
          I do not know ...
          Release F-35 is in full swing. Somewhere around 200 already
          in the troops (of different countries). Those. there are already more than F-22s.
          Armchair production does not stop, since it is artificial
          minor problem (how many pilots are midgets? laughing ).
          Then they will replace the chair on already released cars
          (if the owners find it relevant for their Air Force).
          1. NEXUS
            NEXUS 13 January 2016 17: 03 New
            +1
            Quote: voyaka uh
            I do not know ...
            Release F-35 is in full swing.

            "Raw" machines. And God knows what other problem will come out, and it will come out. Lighting will be brought to the army for 5 or even 10 years. Well, as anyone is comfortable. Purchase orders are reduced. After all, the vassals also do not want to buy a non-fighter , but eternal problems with him. In general, we will see what happens next.
            1. voyaka uh
              voyaka uh 13 January 2016 17: 19 New
              -1
              "And God knows what other problem will come out, and it will come out" ////

              Something may come out, but so far none of the nearly two hundred has crashed
              in the air, which, by the way, is unique. Typically, new models beat profusely
              in the early years. And many hours have already flown. Ie there are no critical defects.
              And in the sense of avionics and weapon systems F-35 (first in the world!) Made
              so flexible that an engineer with a laptop can integrate in half an hour
              a completely new rocket or device in its OMS. In F-22, this is impossible.

              The Norwegians will put their missiles, the Israelis their own, the Japanese their own.
              In addition, the assembly of the components and the aircraft themselves will be
              in parallel at ten factories around the world. And this is a lot of jobs.
              and the development of technology (to assemble such a machine is not a simple screwdriver
              assembly). Israel makes wings and has already "earned" tens of millions
              dollars, which will be deducted from the amount of the order for the aircraft received.
              1. Rassamaha
                Rassamaha 13 January 2016 19: 27 New
                0
                here is a site for Russians soldier
                1. NEXUS
                  NEXUS 13 January 2016 19: 52 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Rassamaha
                  here is a site for Russians soldier

                  What kind of nationalism is this? This is the site for all sober-minded people, regardless of nation.
  22. Foresterer
    Foresterer 13 January 2016 13: 29 New
    0
    When such news appears, foreign tourists disappear from the site somewhere. While this aircraft will be brought to mind, other birds will laugh at it in the sky. And now they need money for another super plane, the eleventh generation bomber is going to develop. These two billion are no longer interesting, there a trillion is waiting and smiling. So I think that this plane will remain lame, they will cram as many European partners as possible, and the problems will be retouched. Serdyukovshina is a world phenomenon.
  23. Ayujak
    Ayujak 13 January 2016 13: 29 New
    +1
    On the other hand, it’s clear to us how NOT to do the technique. smile
  24. Sakhalin.
    Sakhalin. 13 January 2016 13: 32 New
    +1
    P.I.d.so.sy just fantastic demanders of money, I really hope that their habit will destroy them!
    1. sisa29
      sisa29 13 January 2016 16: 09 New
      +1
      why do you think that it will destroy them? on the contrary, here the USA is well done, they do not spare money for the development of airplanes; that is, money is spinning in their industry and science, therefore both developers and manufacturers are well fed. And new ideas and technologies are being run under this project. And what in the end? All buyers will pay! And the United States remains with new technologies and competent specialists and scientists. It's just that we are used to thinking comparing everyone with us, so we repeat kickbacks, cut it and convinced ourselves that everything was built there for the kickbacks.
  25. Corsair0304
    Corsair0304 13 January 2016 13: 44 New
    +1
    To be honest, I can’t imagine an adult male pilot weighing less than 60 kilograms. A Filipino pilgrim is drawn in the imagination. Most likely, money was allocated under this brand for the next orange-muddy revolution of the oppressed, well, or stupidly drank loot. Also an option. Everyone needs money, especially the big-star generals of SUSH.
  26. Konstantin Yu
    Konstantin Yu 13 January 2016 13: 48 New
    0
    ... Maybe something in the pilots lunch change ... peas for pasta, (or the stream is big) or for lard ... maybe they will gain weight and won't break their neck ..
  27. pavelty
    pavelty 13 January 2016 13: 53 New
    0
    Does someone know this is a living person in the photo or a mannequin? Because I know that a pilot can even remain disabled after even one bailout ..
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 13 January 2016 14: 13 New
      0
      Of course the mannequin is for testing dynamic loads.
  28. Lissyara
    Lissyara 13 January 2016 14: 14 New
    +1
    I understand that American pilots are not fed. 61 kg for a healthy man is nonsense (if it is not a woman).
    They would immediately write that it is not the cervical vertebrae that injures, but throws into space in the form of space debris wink Joking
  29. vv3
    vv3 13 January 2016 14: 26 New
    0
    It’s not so scary. They will print money, and others, including we, will work out this money and make a chair, and, in principle, a good plane, albeit in small series, will be issued further ... But in some countries as new planes semi-finished products are produced, where some of the blocks are made of plasticine, or from Chinese and Indian consumer goods as an element base. It would be possible to pick up elements from your TVs and video cameras, but they are not ... One is glad that these semi-finished products can be brought to mind in the future ,under certain conditions...
  30. Captain45
    Captain45 13 January 2016 15: 09 New
    0
    In this regard, the Pentagon initially decided not to allow pilots with body weight up to 61 kg to pilot the F-35and feed these pilots with hamburgers laughing, which will cost less than reworking the chair.
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  32. Platonich
    Platonich 13 January 2016 16: 20 New
    0
    Guys! Amerosmerds don’t get chickens of money: they have enough for everything, don’t worry! And if anything, they will print it!
  33. KVIRTU
    KVIRTU 13 January 2016 16: 36 New
    0
    Not understood. "News" of October last year.
    Full version https://nplus1.ru/news/2015/10/20/seat