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Premonition of a civil war: from what the Crimea saved

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The reunion of the Crimea and Russia was swift and stunning. Nobody expected this, and first of all the Crimeans themselves. Ukrainian “patriots” immediately shouted about “theft”, that they had “treacherously wrung out the Crimea”, as if forgetting that they had not been loved in the Crimea before, and had never considered themselves to be Ukraine. And when in May “flared up” in Odessa and the war in Donbass almost immediately began, Crimeans realized with horror what exactly was waiting for them if the peninsula had not “fled” on time.


Immediately after the first killed "separatists" appeared in Mariupol, and artillery volleys sounded in the Donbass, "carrying out" entire blocks of workers' settlements, a controversy broke out in social networks: what would happen to the Crimea if its residents did not hold a referendum after which the peninsula went from the "jumping" of Ukraine? Ukrainian “patriots” immediately declared that in this case there would be no war in the Donbas.

They really could not explain this wonderful logic of theirs, they only claimed that the war in Ukraine had broken out over the Crimea. There was a slight hint in this that the punitive operation in the Donbass was almost a revenge of the Kiev authorities for the lost territorial integrity, which, you see, is charmingly a little more than completely. To kill really one for the made-up sins of others is, perhaps, extremely clever.

But let us leave on the conscience of those who asserted this thesis, he clearly does not hold water, however, we note that the majority of Crimeans expectedly agreed that the war would be in the Crimea. Exactly the same as in the Donbass. However, this is not entirely true. Because the war would have been much bigger, and it would have been harder, if not to say, to avoid Russia’s participation in it.

Ultimately, as Karl Hampe, a professor at the University of Heidelberg, used to say: “Die Geschichte kennt kein Wenn,” that is, “History does not know the word "if." But we will break the scientist's testament and try to look at the problem in this way: what would have been “if”. But for this we need to start to answer the question: "Why?".

The purpose of the revolution of "pride"


The fact that the Crimea was the fundamental issue for which the “Maidan” was going to be, and the revolution of either “gidnosti”, or nastiness, was arranged, is not in doubt of any more or less sane person. This foolish youth from among the “office plankton”, drop-in students and professional Nazis could be turned into the tales of the European Union, a salary of one thousand euros and the fight against corruption and oligarchs.

The Maidan was completed soon as two years, but not one of the stated goals was not achieved, but absolutely no movements in this direction were made. And with individual sweet dreams and captivating dreams, the Ukrainians have already finally parted ways. So what was it all for? That's just for the sake of the Crimea.

The fact that dominance in the Black Sea-Azov region is a key issue in terms of influence in the Middle East, Central Asia and the South Caucasus, that is, in oil and gas areas, it is not necessary to explain even to those who are not interested in geopolitics at all. From this point of view, the United States and its allies preferably “squeeze out” Russia from the Black Sea basin, even if this leads to a complete imbalance of forces in the region and repeatedly strengthens Turkey and its allies. And Washington has exactly one way to do this: by all means remove the Russian Black Sea Fleet from the Crimea and get its own naval base in its place.

That's exactly what the coup in Kiev was for. From this point of view, the United States didn’t give a damn whether Ukraine will enter the EU or not, exactly what place the EU will have and what will happen to it, Ukraine, and more. What we are seeing today.

There is more than enough evidence that Washington has “aimed” at the Crimea. It’s not even a wagon, it’s a container ship. Another 5 of September, 2013, when the burned tires in Kiev still did not smell, an interesting tender was posted on the Federal Business Opportunity website of the US government: repair and re-equipment of school No. XXUMX of the city of Sevastopol. The customer is the US Navy Engineering and Construction Command.

Did the American military attend to education on, then, Ukraine? Hardly. However, if the Americans were going to build their bases in Sevastopol, then military engineers would be the first to arrive on the island.

And this case is not unique. For example, in Simferopol, the Americans were going to repair the Republican Children's Hospital. In a number of cities in the Crimea and in Odessa, buildings and infrastructure were being prepared to house the American contingent.

Obviously, according to the authors of the “Maidan”, Yanukovych would have been expelled from the country in any scenario. And now it is completely clear - it was inevitable, whatever compromise papers he tried to sign, whatever dances with songs and tambourines he tried to perform in front of the brutal crowd on the Kiev Maidan.

But the new provisional government would have to act tough. As it happened. In Odessa, Mariupol, Kharkov and Donetsk. But in fact, this recipe was intended for the Crimea. Recall: the very first incident against the South-East of Ukraine was the attack on the Crimean buses under Korsun in the Cherkassy region.

People were beaten, shot, tried to burn along with the buses, which is indicative and is the signature “Maidan” handwriting. All ended in human sacrifice. Purpose? To cause the response of people in the Crimea. Then activate the time bomb that various governments of Ukraine have been preparing for all these 20 years: the Crimean Tatars. And these "broad Ukrainians" are got from a half-turn. I personally saw it in the Crimea and more than once.

Every year on May 18, on the Memorial Day of the deportation of the Crimean Tatars, the Mejlis (the representative body of the Crimean Tatars) conducted a motor rally along the South Coast of the Crimea along the Yalta highway. In fact, this paralyzed the most important highway of the Crimea for the whole day and did not add mutual sympathy between the Tatars and the rest of the population of the peninsula. Relations have always been, to put it mildly, strained, and the authorities excitedly heated up this smoldering conflict.

At the same time, Kiev kept the Tatars themselves in a “pendulous” state, delaying the legal registration of land and not registering the Mejlis as an official organization. Kiev needed Tatars exactly in this capacity: as a semi-gangster organization, a kind of “Tatar sector”.

That's exactly what happened. After the incident with the attack on the buses, after the burned, beaten, tired of humiliation returning to Sevastopol, the Crimean "Berkutovtsy" had to throw the last match into the fire. And she was abandoned. It became clear that Crimeans were not going to agree with the coup d'état in Kiev, and the Tatars were brought to the streets of Simferopol, where they tried to block the state council of the peninsula. It was rumored that the radicals of the “Maidan” intend to come to the Crimea

Further would be expected. Somewhere the “house of the trade unions” would flare up, shooting would begin on the streets, and all this would take place in close proximity to the Russian military units, because of the fences of which the Russian soldiers would be forced to watch street riots and killings of people in impotent despair. .

Under these conditions, Turchinov, who had seized power in Kiev, would have terminated the lease agreement and would have delivered an ultimatum to Russia: to divert the fleet. Russia would have a choice: to intervene in a full-fledged armed conflict with Ukraine or to withdraw from the Crimea.

But “polite people” appeared and, under the pretext of saving the Crimean cats, changed the course of the situation. Something went wrong.

And what would happen if it went the way it should be Kiev and Washington?

What would be "if"

Premonition of a civil war: from what the Crimea saved


After the collapse of the Union, Ukraine received almost the largest grouping of troops. Still would! These were the western military districts, practically the first echelon of the defense of the territory of the USSR. At the same time, the Odessa Military District, in whose territory the Crimea and the Black Sea naval base were located, was perhaps the most combat-ready, and most importantly, active. After all, it was from here that the USSR operated on the Mediterranean direction.

In total, in 1990 in the Odessa district there were approximately 110 thousand military personnel, 600 tanks, 1 thousand armored personnel carriers and infantry fighting vehicles, 900 guns, mortars and MLRS, 150 combat and transport helicopters. This is not counting the forces of the Black Sea fleet. Almost all of this went to Ukraine.

The fleet was divided for a long time. "Already" until 1995. But the land garrison was divided quickly and automatically. And clearly in favor of Ukraine. According to the children's principle: “where it is worth it is called.” The only significant thing that managed to “conquer” Russia is two sea airfields aviation - in Kache and Guards, of course, with the material part; one air defense brigade, one of two coastal defense missile and artillery brigades, as well as half of the 810th Marine Corps, which was based in Sevastopol.

With the latter, by the way, one interesting story is connected. As a result, two twin brothers, Zaremba brothers, it seems, Alexey and Yury, commanded new units at the base of the brigade. After the final division of the Black Sea Fleet, when the joint command was liquidated, one of them began to serve in the Russian fleet, and the second in the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

Such is the hint of time. So in the case of Ukraine, the phraseologism “war brother to brother” does not sound allegorical at all. However, in our case, the tragedy did not happen, and the brothers on the battlefield did not meet.

So, the strength of Ukraine was considerable, but to keep its money in the middle of the 90-s in the Ukrainian treasury simply was not. But there was no them, and Russia, and the garrison of the peninsula on both sides began to rapidly decline. The remnants of the 810 Brigade of the Marine Corps in Sevastopol quickly turned into a regiment and a separate battalion, which was withdrawn to the Azov coast, and the Ukrainian part of the brigade became even faster into the 1-th separate battalion of the Marine Corps in Feodosia.

But Ukraine got hardly the fattest part of the air defense of the Odessa region. It was in the Crimea that by the beginning of the 2000's it was still somehow a formidable fighting force: several brigades and regiments armed with C-200 complexes and C-300, the latest at that time. And also almost all combat-ready BUK-1M.

True, it is precisely the Crimean “soldiers” of the Armed Forces of Ukraine who became famous for being shot down by the Russian TU-154, which was traveling from Tel Aviv to Novosibirsk. But this only means that the calculations had a poor training. But the C-200, C-300 and BUK-1M complexes themselves were fully operational.

And this was confirmed in the eight-day war in South Ossetia. Then the experimental calculation of the Ukrainian BUK-1M, which consisted of repairmen-testers of the Balakleevsky Repair Plant, brought a lot of trouble to the Russian aviation industry. It cost the Russian army at least three downed aircraft and four dead pilots.

So, despite the fact that 90 is not happy for our states, the last 15 years Ukraine has concentrated everything she could in the Crimea. And obviously not just like that. Here, the most combat-ready Ukrainian units. Moreover, local servicemen tried to replace the soldiers and officers from other regions, mainly from Western Ukraine.

Already by 2007, the grouping of Ukrainian troops in the Crimea numbered more than 17 thousands of servicemen, and by 2013 almost 20 thousands. This is a third (!) Of all the armed forces of Ukraine at that time, and as for aviation and air defense, almost half of what could fly and shoot.

That is why, by the way, airplanes and helicopters in ATO so quickly ran out of the APU. Ukrainian aviation was not preparing for the Donbas and was not concentrating there.

Here is an incomplete list of what Kiev managed to gather in the Crimea by 2013 year.

Coast Guard Center:


36-I separate coast guard brigade (village Perevalnoe, Crimea).

Armament:

39 T-64B tanks,
178 armored vehicles (near 100 BMP-2,
about 50 BTR-80),
66 artillery installations (division (18 guns) 122 mm SAU "Gvozdika",
division (18 guns) 152 mm howitzers D-20,
division (18 guns) 122 mm howitzers D-30,
Division MLRS BM-21 "Grad" (18 installations) - anti-tank division (2 batteries MT-12 "Rapier", battery ATGM),
ZSU "Shilka"
LAW "Strela-10М3").
1-th separate battalion of marines, in the city of Feodosia.

Defense

174 anti-aircraft missile regiment (Headquarters - Dergachi district, near Sevastopol, 3 of C-300PS division)
50 anti-aircraft missile regiment (Theodosius, 2 of the C-300PT / PS battalion, 1 or 2 of the C-200М battalion)
55 anti-aircraft missile regiment (Evpatoria, 5 batteries "Buk-M1")

Plus, almost 60 combat aircraft and about 20 attack helicopters 204 Sevastopol tactical aviation brigade at a military airfield in Belbek.
Since there is no reason to speak about the “power” of the Ukrainian fleet - it was in fact a coastal defense fleet, it is worth saying that Kiev didn’t have anything to say to Russian warships. This is perhaps the most valuable acquisition of them in the division of the fleet in addition to air defense: the 25 coastal mobile missile division stationed at Cape Fiolent, near Sevastopol.

He was armed with two launchers of anti-ship cruise missiles "Rubezh" with P-15 "Termite" missiles. They are able to produce two four-missile volleys with a small interval for recharging, while maneuvering, changing position, by a distance of up to 100 km. Their half-ton warheads can drown a sentry / destroyer / frigate with one hit and even cause significant damage to such a ship as the flagship of the Russian Black Sea fleet, the Moskva missile cruiser. And it was a serious danger for the Black Sea Fleet.

But most importantly, all these parts were perfectly equipped and equipped with everything necessary. They would not need volunteers with their military-humanitarian aid using toy Chinese radios, hunting night scopes for hunting rabbits and children's quadcopters. They did not need those who couldn’t fight and the Pravoseki who were under their feet. They were sufficiently trained and coordinated.

Moreover, the deployment of units and formations was (this is visible on our map) nothing more than the blocking forces of the Russian land garrisons and the forces of the Black Sea fleet. At one point, one team of Ukrainian troops could build an effective line of defense with springboards for strikes. In this case, all communications and supply lines of the Russian army would be cut off and the garrisons would be cut off from each other.

And if everything went as it should, then the Russian military units would be surrounded by the prospect of engaging in combat at any moment. And it was a real prospect. Recall, when Kiev was surprised to find that the Ukrainian army was actually surrounded in parts in the Crimea, before it even left the barracks, Turchinov, in a frenzy, immediately ordered to open fire immediately to kill. The plan failed, but there was still hope of shedding blood.

Russia is ahead of Ukraine, perhaps in a matter of hours.

And only the low morale of the soldiers, who clearly did not want to sacrifice their lives for purposes they did not understand, and as Crimeans, participants of those events, admit, good relations, so to speak, “the army and the people”, who over the years managed to “take it easy and get to be friends” , did not allow Kiev to execute his plan in Washington and shed blood on the peninsula.

And if everything went according to plan, then later, when the Black Sea Fleet would be finished, the Crimea was drowned in blood and intimidated, on the warm shores of the southern coast of the Crimea American sailors, marines and pilots would comfortably settle down, the war would still come to Donbass . But it would be a completely different war. With far greater sacrifices and larger scale. Such is the bloody logic of the Maidan.
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  1. Great-grandfather of Zeus
    Great-grandfather of Zeus 12 January 2016 16: 30 New
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    The main thing is our Crimea and forever, amen !!!
    1. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov 12 January 2016 16: 34 New
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      I don’t agree about the shot down TU-154, he was shot down in the Crimea from the Opuk training ground, but at that time all-Ukrainian exercises were taking place and not only Crimeans were at the training ground, the plane was shot down by the Vasilkovskaya brigade arrived from near Kiev, which two years earlier had fallen into a five-story building in Browors.
      1. Temples
        Temples 12 January 2016 16: 42 New
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        And the conclusion to all this is this:
        - Russian military bases in the near abroad are our security.
        - There would be no our military in Crimea, there would be no Crimea in Russia now.
        So there are more military bases in the near abroad and far.
        1. bronik
          bronik 12 January 2016 17: 11 New
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          - How to cross a pig and a rabbit? - Using a meat grinder.
          In Crimea, they did without it ..
          1. bannik
            bannik 14 January 2016 23: 07 New
            +2
            Yes, they will eat each other without a meat grinder. And not only these two. Cannibalism in the Kiev safari park is inevitable.
            PS: I knew that a pig is an omnivorous cattle, but a rabbit has always been considered a vegetarian. Rabbits mutate, mutate!
      2. gjkrjdybr50
        gjkrjdybr50 12 January 2016 20: 16 New
        +6
        In the arsenal of the Vasilkov Brigade there was no "Point", i.e. she could not get into the house. And if there was a "Point", then she could not shoot down the S-200 with a plane, not the weapons. The brigade in Vasilkov was radio engineering.
        1. smvmil
          smvmil 12 January 2016 23: 12 New
          +1
          radio engineering in Vasilkovo, and nearby in Kalinovka ZRBr, and not Vasilkivtsi’s point of Lupanuli but RViA SV
        2. smvmil
          smvmil 12 January 2016 23: 12 New
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          radio engineering in Vasilkovo, and nearby in Kalinovka ZRBr, and not Vasilkivtsi’s point of Lupanuli but RViA SV
      3. serezhasoldatow
        serezhasoldatow 12 January 2016 21: 53 New
        +4
        So all the same Ukrainians shot down, not Putin.
      4. smvmil
        smvmil 12 January 2016 23: 01 New
        +1
        Other guys "got" into the nine-story house in Brovary, not from air defense missiles but from the radio and radioactive aviation and missiles TOCHKA-U
      5. aleks 62 next
        aleks 62 next 13 January 2016 10: 34 New
        0
        .... the plane was shot down by the Vasilkovskaya brigade that arrived from near Kiev, which two years earlier had fallen into a five-story building in Brovory ...

        ..... In Brovary, the “Tochka” hit the house .... As far as I understand, this is not an anti-aircraft missile .... Since when did the “Tochki” be armed with the Air Defense Forces ????? ... request
    2. vlad66
      vlad66 12 January 2016 16: 42 New
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      Who owns the Crimea, he owns the Black Sea, it is not without reason that the mattresses raised such a screech, and these horses didn’t fall.
      1. Vasek
        Vasek 12 January 2016 21: 24 New
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        Quote: vlad66
        Who owns the Crimea, he owns the Black Sea, it is not without reason that the mattresses raised such a screech, and these horses didn’t fall.

        100% they already tried on Crimea for themselves, it is very suitable for the "anti-Iranian" missile defense.
        However, they will have to have fun in the Romanian Devesel.
      2. Sergey7311
        Sergey7311 13 January 2016 12: 43 New
        +5
        Crimea is the unsinkable aircraft carrier of the Black Sea!
    3. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 12 January 2016 16: 48 New
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      Quote: Great-grandfather of Zeus
      The main thing is our Crimea and forever, amen !!!

      And nothing to add, and not required!

      All the rest is a transfusion of words from empty to empty. As a literary analysis of "War and Peace." If L. Tolstoy knew how many Kamaz philological studies and dissertations the descendants of “War and Peace” would squeeze out, he would not write.
    4. perm23
      perm23 12 January 2016 17: 12 New
      +8
      Hope forever. What we ourselves are not afraid of, because of the sanctions will not sell. Westerners say, give Crimea and we will restore everything and some kind of figure will not appear.
      And so that the people of Crimea because of finances do not bust.
      1. Zoldat_A
        Zoldat_A 13 January 2016 08: 02 New
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        Quote: perm23
        Hope forever. What we ourselves are not afraid of, because of the sanctions will not sell. Westerners say give the Crimea and restore everything

        It is interesting that the West decided to restore this, if we give up the Crimea? Oil on 300 raccoons per barrel will do? Syria will give us forever and ever approve of its entry into the Russian Federation? Will Turkish builders send us to build communism in a particular country?

        There are no such heavy sanctions for the sake of which Crimea can be surrendered and there are no such tasty nishtyaks for whom the Crimea could be exchanged.
    5. Persistent
      Persistent 12 January 2016 17: 16 New
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      The main thing is our Crimea and forever, amen !!!

      The main thing is different !! Our PRESIDENT is only CRIMINAL worthy of a monument in full growth of 999 gold !!!! Respect to you Vladimir Vladimirovich from all over Russia and Crimea.
    6. Sharapov
      Sharapov 12 January 2016 17: 40 New
      +5
      For some reason, the article indicates the Tu-134 shot down by Ukraine, and not the Tu-154. Typo ...
    7. iouris
      iouris 13 January 2016 01: 50 New
      +3
      There is nothing left: to restore the USSR.
      1. cat 23
        cat 23 13 January 2016 17: 32 New
        +1
        Yes, the USSR is no longer needed. Enough of little animals to contain, they still owe us a lot. Let them work out ...
    8. siberalt
      siberalt 13 January 2016 10: 28 New
      +2
      "Swift release" regarding what? Unexpected - yes. It was somehow decided without us that Sevastopol would depart under NATO. Dreaming, damn it! laughing
    9. bornikrub
      bornikrub 13 January 2016 11: 51 New
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      But only at the dachas near Sevastopol, grateful citizens resettled about two hundred and fifty thousand “refugees” from Ukraine. In the "city of Russian sailors" about six hundred thousand are flashing.
      600 and 250 are quite comparable numbers.
      And how many "refugees" in the whole Crimea?
      There may be problems.
  2. DobryAAH
    DobryAAH 12 January 2016 16: 31 New
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    For Crimea, Putin is a monument. And respect.
    1. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov 12 January 2016 16: 37 New
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      Quote: Good AAAH
      For Crimea, Putin is a monument. And respect.




      Putin’s geopolitics is complete. But the economic liberal part is not impressive.
      1. oldseaman1957
        oldseaman1957 12 January 2016 16: 42 New
        +1
        Quote: Denis Obukhov
        But the economic liberal part is not impressive.
        - They took Crimea, but relics would not be enough for Novorossia. So it hovered ... That's right, because now through our Kremlin "oil pumps" we have a complete fiasco with the economy. It’s tightly understood - what are they waiting for, but it seems they will wait!
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        2. tolian
          tolian 12 January 2016 17: 27 New
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          Speak complete fiasco? I do not see. Everything is fine. Do not classify them with yours, woodpecker.
        3. Ami du peuple
          Ami du peuple 12 January 2016 17: 28 New
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          Quote: oldseaman1957
          Putin’s geopolitics is complete. But the economic liberal part is not impressive.

          Quote: oldseaman1957
          That's right, because now through our Kremlin "oil pumps" we have a complete fiasco with the economy. It’s hard to understand - what are they waiting for, but they seem to wait!

          Zadolbali you with this economy! The article is not about her at all, but, for some, you need to insert your own five cents. And pop, like you, your "valuable" opinion in any material, even in an article about ballet ...
          What do you offer yourself? Take and Share? I’m not sure that anything will fall from you like that. On the contrary, rather ..
          I got a similar nagging. Too fast citizens of the 90s forgot.
          1. VIK_1961
            VIK_1961 15 January 2016 00: 54 New
            +5
            I agree. Who in adulthood survived the 90s (in my military unit in a distant garrison I remember 5 months-FIVE !!! MONTHS !!! - they didn’t pay cash allowance- and my wife and two small children !!!!, and before breakfast leaving for service a glass of “tea” and a piece of bread from the soldier’s canteen-THANKS FOR HIS FATHER-COMMANDER !!!, men, yes, for me * how much a barrel and a dollar cost today. For those tears that my wife shed sitting on the floor in the office apartment and screaming loudly that there is nothing to feed the children, I am now any nits who dare to tweet something bad about MY COUNTRY, have a bite of their throats and tear out Adam's apple. We decided to buy us all for foie gras and bananas ??? and don’t break it. Russians don’t give up! As they say, we survived hunger - we will survive and abundance. And who needs free bananas - bring me down from my Russia, no one is holding you now, leaving is free.
        4. Forest
          Forest 12 January 2016 19: 08 New
          +3
          The Donbass has a different story - there it was already necessary to fight in a big way, to introduce a huge occupation contingent, and even the United States is now not at risk of running into it alone.
        5. Dryuya2
          Dryuya2 12 January 2016 20: 29 New
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          Quote: Denis Obukhov
          -Putin’s geopolitics. But the economic liberal part is not impressive.

          Natasha, she’s Denisk fool tongue hi
          https://maxpark.com/community/politic/content/4900841
          1. Vasek
            Vasek 12 January 2016 21: 28 New
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            Quote: Dryuya2
            Natasha, she’s Denisk

            Not in the eyebrow, but in the groin, Dryune!
            good
        6. aleks 62 next
          aleks 62 next 13 January 2016 10: 46 New
          +4
          .... Crimea was taken, but relics would not be enough for Novorossia. So she hung ...

          .... New Russia hung because they thought for a long time .... Everyone went to the demonstrations and rallies when it already started in Slavyansk .... Time passed, and then it was too late to apply the Crimean scenario .... Strelkov is not easy so I went there - it was thought that the people would rise en masse .... And he drove round dances and waved flags .... hi
      2. tolian
        tolian 12 January 2016 17: 24 New
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        And it impresses me. I have enough. So why are you missing? Are you greedy or stupid?
      3. Persistent
        Persistent 12 January 2016 17: 29 New
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        Putin’s geopolitics is complete. But the economic liberal part is not impressive.

        Everything has its time . “Moscow wasn’t built right away,” or did you forget what kind of “trash” he took when assuming the presidency ??? But he wasn’t afraid !!! Read the news carefully. The cleaning of corruption is going on maybe slower than you wanted but systematically ....
      4. serezhasoldatow
        serezhasoldatow 12 January 2016 22: 00 New
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        And you address your question to Medvedev.
      5. sergo42
        sergo42 12 January 2016 23: 59 New
        +1
        I completely agree, namesake
      6. ArhipenkoAndrey
        ArhipenkoAndrey 13 January 2016 08: 44 New
        +2
        And the economic liberal part is already for Mr. Medvedev, well, one person cannot keep everything in mind, but with Mr. Medvedev the problem is that he is a liberal liberal.
        1. UrraletZ
          UrraletZ 15 January 2016 04: 48 New
          0
          he bought.
  3. A-Sim
    A-Sim 12 January 2016 16: 34 New
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    It takes a little to live in Crimea to understand the qualitative composition of the population. There are enough people serving even under the Union, of those who will be able to raise and organize in difficult times. Therefore, in any negative scenario of the Armed Forces of Ukraine without the support of the population, one would have to deal not only with the KChF units, but also with resistance units. And in Crimea it’s quite convenient to carry out partisan actions and cut off supplies to the invaders. It would hardly have been possible to quickly crank up anything here in such a situation.
    1. bronik
      bronik 12 January 2016 17: 16 New
      16
      Do not laugh at grandfather! - Why? - Grandfather was at war! - And what? - Grandpa knows how to KILL!
      Something like this.
    2. family
      family tree 12 January 2016 18: 06 New
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      Quote: A-Sim
      There are enough people serving even under the Union, of those who will be able to raise and organize in difficult times.

      Only now, taking into account the Crimean Tatar Medjelis, with its financing by the Turks what . They would have poured blood over the Crimea, where is the Donbass. Kind, yet Vissarionych was, it was necessary in the 44th to recall the natives of Crimea from the front, to form a couple of brigades from them and to start cleaning up the homeland.
      ps I’ll catch the minuses, this, a relative of Amet-Khan of the Sultan and others like them, to evacuate in advance to Yevpatoriya.
      1. Scraptor
        Scraptor 13 January 2016 04: 30 New
        +1
        they were there openly a few months before that were going to cut the Russians
        1. lex locis
          lex locis 13 January 2016 11: 18 New
          +5
          Quote "they were there openly a few months before that were going to cut the Russians"

          “they” are a dozen scumbag-criminals from the Mejlis.
          But the bulk of the Crimean Tatars (like all other Tatars) are quite normal people and Russian patriots.
          Do not try to sow enmity. You don’t get cookies from the State Department, you work poorly ...
          1. Scraptor
            Scraptor 17 January 2016 22: 02 New
            0
            In the square in front of the Crimean parliament there were only a dozen of them?

            In 1941-44, whose cookies were there? The entire bulk of the Tatars advises the Crimean not to deal.

            In 1991, there were probably 15 of them in Chechnya ...
    3. Vasek
      Vasek 12 January 2016 21: 32 New
      +5
      Quote: A-Sim
      in any negative scenario of the Armed Forces of Ukraine without the support of the population, one would have to deal not only with the KChF units, but also with resistance units.

      That's how it is, but how many people would have been crushed, including civilians (remember Lugansk).
      So, everything is correct. Vova counted: check and checkmate. And the queen in Obama's hollow. bully
  4. Denis Obukhov
    Denis Obukhov 12 January 2016 16: 36 New
    +2
    It was not Tu-134 that was shot down, but Tu-154.
    1. padded jacket
      padded jacket 12 January 2016 16: 45 New
      35
      V.V. Putin unambiguously behaved as an honest, decent and courageous man in the matter of the annexation of Crimea, and for only one salvation of two and a half million people from reprisals by Ukrainian nationalists, he deserves eternal gratitude from all of Russia.
      1. ICT
        ICT 12 January 2016 20: 13 New
        +1
        .................

        1. cat 23
          cat 23 13 January 2016 17: 42 New
          +2
          UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUunyloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooyYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
        2. cat 23
          cat 23 13 January 2016 17: 42 New
          0
          UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUunyloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooyYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
  5. RomanS
    RomanS 12 January 2016 16: 40 New
    +1
    And at the helm of the Ukrainian frigate Black Pearl, the brave captain Senya the rabbit (or Jack Sparrow ..). All one, both corrupt. Fantasy!
  6. glasha3032
    glasha3032 12 January 2016 16: 42 New
    14
    Indeed. For Crimea, Putin is a monument and respect!
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    1. skifd
      skifd 12 January 2016 16: 49 New
      0
      Quote: Dr. Bormental
      that Poroshenko generally secretly "sold" the US Crimea,


      Link to the site, translate Google. 2013 year.


      https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=2bb691b61c59be3a68180bd8c61

      4a0cb & tab = core & _cview = 1

      BEFORE Poroshenko.
  8. combat66
    combat66 12 January 2016 16: 44 New
    +1
    Yes, they ripped off a pearl from the neck! And thank God! Not in honor of pearls! wink
  9. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 12 January 2016 16: 44 New
    +2
    Yes, and happiness was so close. Do not dig another hole, or from the beginning learn to dig.
  10. Maksim
    Maksim 12 January 2016 16: 46 New
    +6
    Quote: Good AAAH
    For Crimea, Putin is a monument. And respect.

    Marines, those that are "Polite People" or "Green Men" - these are gratitude to them. And of course, the entire population of the peninsula. And now # wait bridge). And what do you think the technical bridge will be before the opening of the main bridge?
    1. sevsor
      sevsor 12 January 2016 17: 28 New
      +2
      [quote = Makcim] And what do you think the technical bridge will be the bridge before the opening of the main? [/ quo

      Maxim, here you can find answers about the progress of the construction of the Crimean bridge http://reklama-crimea.com/news_entries/28236
    2. padded jacket
      padded jacket 12 January 2016 17: 35 New
      16
      Quote: Makcim
      Marines, those that are "Polite People" or "Green Men" - these are gratitude to them. And of course, the entire population of the peninsula.

      Here, the thing is that without the order of Vladimir Putin, “Polite people” would not have moved anywhere. Everything is interconnected here. Vladimir Putin gave the order for the return of Crimea to Russia, and the “Polite People” simply honorably and quickly fulfilled it, and the people of Crimea showing great personal courage and determination to return to Russia contributed to this.
  11. Pete mitchell
    Pete mitchell 12 January 2016 16: 47 New
    18
    I don’t know what they were preparing for, but only after raising the tricolor did the officers of the General Staff of the RF Armed Forces positively evaluate the actions the only Ukrainian officer in the Crimea - the commander of the Marines, he really hurt sides, but the man behaved with dignity. The rest of the paws are folded, "warriors" God forgive.
    Those who carried out the operation to "raise the tricolor over the Crimea" really deserve respect, handsome men, military bourgeois have already managed with a frustration
    1. Oleg14774
      Oleg14774 12 January 2016 21: 44 New
      +2
      Quote: Pete Mitchell
      a real Ukrainian officer in the Crimea - the commander of the Marines, they really hacked his sides,

      Is it in that regard, well done, that he was going to fight against Russia, defending the Nazis in power?
  12. AID.S
    AID.S 12 January 2016 16: 47 New
    +3
    Quote: Dr. Bormental
    I read in an article that Poroshenko generally “tacitly” sold the US Crimea to install their fleet there ... I don’t know, really not, but when everything went according to the “Krymnash” scenario, then the whole mess started ...

    And how could he sell Crimea when he could not sell anything but sweets?
    So the myth is refuted!
    1. Oleg14774
      Oleg14774 12 January 2016 21: 46 New
      +1
      Quote: AID.S
      And how could he sell Crimea when he could not sell anything but sweets?

      But how did humpback and ebn sell to the USSR? And also Shushkevich and Kravchuk?
  13. Altona
    Altona 12 January 2016 16: 52 New
    +9
    But did proto-Ukrainians live in Crimea? Why was Crimea supposed to be Ukrainian?
    1. Weyland
      Weyland 12 January 2016 20: 31 New
      +5
      Quote: Altona
      But did proto-Ukrainians live in Crimea?


      Before the revolution, they lived in Russia русскиеthat were divided into Great Russians, Little Russians and Belarusians! So what column to look for - I explained to you laughing
      But the Ukrainians ... were like that - in Siberia! If you didn’t understand: it was worth some Svidomo to declare that he was Ukrainian - they sent him straight there! Very correct decision, by the way! (from)
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  14. OlegV
    OlegV 12 January 2016 16: 53 New
    12
    Quote: A-Sim
    .... Quickly crank something here in such a situation is unlikely to succeed.

    it is not regrettable, but I think you are mistaken

    it is precisely Crimea that is more vulnerable than the Donbass and this is obvious.

    Electricity, water, + food, think for yourself and remember how Ukraine turned it off and off, and thanks to the important and correct choice, and most importantly the operational one, about joining Russia, the Crimean people still experience difficulties and some deprivations, continue to live in WORLD and work for the good of our common country.

    Russians do not abandon their own.
  15. mark_V
    mark_V 12 January 2016 16: 53 New
    +7
    It is clear that the idea of ​​"the goal of the Maidan - Crimea" is not new. Did not work out.
    Somewhere nearby is the "fairy tale about the shale gas of Donbass." Doesn't add up.
    Well, right there, - "a song about the GTS of the Krajina to Europe." Will not work out.
    And so close was for Ukrainians a freebie. Share.
    1. Flor Fokic
      Flor Fokic 13 January 2016 01: 44 New
      +1
      Quote: mark_V
      Share.

      And let them not say that they were not warned!
  16. 1536
    1536 12 January 2016 16: 58 New
    11
    Oh, Americans don’t think that this scenario may well be suitable for Texas and other so-called states ?! As it comes around, it will respond, and the war will come to the house of those who unleashed it. For the sake of some kind of "geopolitics", the ambitions of their half-witted politicians and politesses, who are still few in number, the Americans are laying down the lives of innocent people, children, old people, depriving entire nations of the future! Take the same Serbs, Croats, essentially deprived of their homeland, Syrians, living on the ruins of their once prosperous country, that multinational people that lives on the territory of Ukraine, etc. God will repay the American non-humans! One hope for that!
    1. Nzn
      Nzn 12 January 2016 17: 40 New
      0
      Quote: 1536
      that this scenario may well be suitable for Texas and other so-called states ?!


      But in fact, what is the situation with the desire for freedom in the territories occupied by the lice?
    2. cat 23
      cat 23 13 January 2016 17: 56 New
      +3
      IMHO ordinary Americans are clogged and illiterate people, just LOSERS. But here they are ruled by rare HANDOLIERS
  17. Igluxnumx
    Igluxnumx 12 January 2016 17: 02 New
    +9
    The author is a plus. Although in 2012 in Belbek 46-3 out of 4 aircraft could take off, a significant part of the Black Sea Fleet was sold out, as well as tanks, MLRS, military technology, it would be stressful to “butt” the APU. The main thing - the Americans, of course, wanted to capture the Crimea, its convenient bays and airfields. The rate was very high. We - in time.
  18. Idiot
    Idiot 12 January 2016 17: 02 New
    14
    Competent and reasoned article. In my opinion, the United States also planned to soften offshore gas fields. Yes, if they clung to Crimea, they would reign supreme in the region. And there Georgia would have intensified ... But the most important thing: the next step would be the dismemberment of Syria with far-reaching consequences. In this situation, Russia could not do anything. Turkey would certainly close the straits.
    1. Flor Fokic
      Flor Fokic 13 January 2016 01: 54 New
      +3
      Quote: pft, fkb
      And there Georgia would become more active ...

      Yes, the Caucasus .... You are right, and there ISIS would have matured and surged along the Georgian military road metastasis ......
      Loafing mattresses ..
      Great gratitude from us, Crimeans, to our President!
  19. Primus pilus
    Primus pilus 12 January 2016 17: 05 New
    +7
    The brilliant operation in the Crimea of ​​our army took many by surprise.
    1. PValery53
      PValery53 12 January 2016 18: 33 New
      +2
      The brilliant operation in the Crimea took our spiteful critters by surprise! We began to cross his throat! “So they need it!” Not otherwise.
  20. bad
    bad 12 January 2016 17: 06 New
    +6
    Quote: Makcim
    Quote: Good AAAH
    For Crimea, Putin is a monument. And respect.

    Marines, those that are "Polite People" or "Green Men" - these are gratitude to them. And of course, the entire population of the peninsula. And now # wait bridge). And what do you think the technical bridge will be before the opening of the main bridge?
    and polite marines, and special forces of the GRU and militia militias -Thank you! .. but without the command of our GDP there would be nothing that we are now happy about, fact!
  21. EvgNik
    EvgNik 12 January 2016 17: 08 New
    +5
    Kiev needed the Tatars in this capacity: as a semi-gangster organization, a kind of "Tatar sector"

    If we recall that the Crimean Tatars in the Second World War were basically traitors, and about their kinship with the Turks, then Kiev had reasons to rely on them.
    The reunion of Crimea and Russia was swift and stunning. Nobody expected this, and first of all, Crimeans themselves.

    But this is really a brilliant victory that no one could have foreseen.
    Russia is ahead of Ukraine, perhaps in a matter of hours.

    I'm losing options if everything went wrong. Nothing good for us. It is for us. The Black Sea would be lost. And the war would go on in Crimea (it would be more difficult for us to help the inhabitants of Crimea). And they could just give back to Donbass for joy. For states, this is not critical.
    1. Arbogast
      Arbogast 12 January 2016 20: 08 New
      -19
      Quote: EvgNik
      If we recall that the Crimean Tatars in the Second World War were basically traitors
      Mamai quote: If you recall that the Russians in the Battle of Kulikovo were basically traitors .. repeat
      Quote: EvgNik
      But this is really a brilliant victory that no one could have foreseen.
      A couple more of these "brilliant victories" .. laughing
      Quote: EvgNik
      It is for us. The black sea would be lost
      Would the Pindocs drink it? Ali "great" ?! belay
      1. Weyland
        Weyland 12 January 2016 20: 35 New
        +4
        Quote: Arbogast
        Mamai quote: If you recall that the Russians in the Battle of Kulikovo were basically traitors


        If we recall that Mamai was a brazen usurper, then the Tatars in the Battle of Kulikovo were basically traitors (essno, excluding those very numerous Tatars who fought in Moscow advanced regiment under the command of Andrei Serkiz).
        1. lex locis
          lex locis 13 January 2016 11: 29 New
          0
          Riot will never lead
          to luck
          When he won
          his name is different ....

          If Mamai won, then Dmitry Donskoy and the subjects of the Golden Horde who joined him would be considered traitors
          And the Russian princes who joined Mamaia (in my opinion, if I am not mistaken, Ryazan) would be heroes ...
          1. g1v2
            g1v2 13 January 2016 17: 42 New
            0
            Mamai was not Genghiside, the PM was considered a usurper, so it was legally legal to fight with him. And when Genghisid Tokhtamysh later came, then all the princes who fought against Mamaia earlier ran away or came to him with a bow. But he exponentially burned Moscow and Donskoy had to agree with him. request Medieval realities.
            1. Weyland
              Weyland 13 January 2016 23: 18 New
              0
              Quote: g1v2
              he burned Moscow exponentially


              Shurya Donskoy tried - slandered him in front of Tokhtamysh! And he, he believed, about which he later regretted more than once, when he would have needed Moscow’s help against Timur!
          2. Weyland
            Weyland 13 January 2016 23: 19 New
            -2
            Quote: lex locis
            if not mistaken, Ryazan


            You are mistaken (but not you, but your informants). This is Moscow’s latest slander against competitors.
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  22. Samen
    Samen 12 January 2016 17: 09 New
    +4
    If we recall Aksyonov's “Island of Crimea”, then it turned out “the opposite is true”. Crimeans welcomed the entry of troops of mainland Russia! This is the case when the "fantasies" of writers are far from reality ... One can only rejoice at this!
  23. Alexey RA
    Alexey RA 12 January 2016 17: 10 New
    +9
    Just do not forget that most of the technology indicated in the article in fact was only the numbers in the tablets. Rusty PU S-300PS, cars that have grown into the ground, tanks that do not start.

    The best example is the Sevastopol Tactical Aviation Brigade of the South Air Command (204 brigade). On paper, it was a formidable power, as indicated in the article:
    Plus, almost 60 combat aircraft and about 20 attack helicopters 204 Sevastopol tactical aviation brigade at a military airfield in Belbek.

    In fact, the brigade was a storage base for aircraft:
    The 204th Brigade was armed with nominally 46 MiG-29 and MiG-29UB fighters and four modernized L-39M1 training aircraft. The combat readiness of the brigade was extremely low, and by the beginning of 2014 only three MiG-29s, one MiG-29UB and one L-39M1 were in flight condition from its fleet. During the Crimean events on February 28, 2014, the Belbek airdrome was taken under control by “polite people”, who blocked the personnel of the 204th brigade from access to aircraft parking and disabled all four remaining fighters.

    But the brigade’s political officer, walking under the red banner, shouted loudly: "America is with us." laughing
    1. Flor Fokic
      Flor Fokic 13 January 2016 02: 03 New
      +1
      Quote: Alexey RA
      Just do not forget that most of the technology indicated in the article in fact was only the numbers in the tablets. Rusty PU S-300PS, cars that have grown into the ground, tanks that do not start.

      Similarly, for a long time this rust stood on Fiolent, closer to the fifth kilometer ... instead of glass, plywood, cars on rims, headlights are broken, it was still with stolen.
  24. OlegV
    OlegV 12 January 2016 17: 14 New
    +6
    And yet ... Crimeans probably were able to look ahead and see what will be the next president of a great country with the most powerful army in the world
  25. Goldmitro
    Goldmitro 12 January 2016 17: 16 New
    13
    But “polite people” appeared and, under the pretext of saving the Crimean cats, turned the tide.

    The decisive role in the return of Crimea to Russia was played by the determination and activity of the people of Crimea, who all the time they were in Ukraine felt like second-class citizens, as well as the skillful leadership of the reunification movement from its leaders, who managed to organize extremely quickly (Maidanut in Kiev did not have time to come to their senses) holding an appropriate referendum! “Polite people” only SECURED the calm conduct of this referendum without allowing the Maydanists to use their armed forces in the Crimea to pressure the people and obstruct the referendum!
    1. Talgat
      Talgat 12 January 2016 18: 50 New
      +5
      I agree, the "polite" just covered the city from the Ukrainian security forces - and that’s all

      And the population, feeling security, put forward leaders and left Kiev power. That is, all the same, the main thing was the people. For example, there would be no military on either side - the people would hold a referendum and go out. The role of the Russian army was only to neutralize the Ukrainian
  26. atamankko
    atamankko 12 January 2016 17: 16 New
    +8
    A lot of the lives of peaceful Crimeans saved - and this is important.
    And let the "exceptional" ones use a seaming machine - it helps.
  27. Gray 43
    Gray 43 12 January 2016 17: 18 New
    +7
    The Ukrainians were already thinking of driving our fleet out of the Crimea, and in the “dashing 90s” difficult for us, there was an interesting article on this issue at the VO, then they wanted to storm the Navy’s main headquarters, such a “brotherly people”, but then it did not grow together. And numerous attacks on the objects of the Black Sea Fleet penetrated young people with flags, then they drove them out of there. I think that Putin had information about the intentions of the staff members to “squeeze” Crimea for their bases, otherwise they would not have planned what they did later. I think many of us were amazed and amused by the work of our media, which from issue to issue reported “unknown armed people”, “self-defense units” using equipment without numbers and signs. Yanukovych, for some reason, trembled, could not give the order to complete this infernal coven, although if he had dispersed and transplanted, then the maximum that the Westerners did to him was imposed sanctions, but alas! Yanukovych to Lukashenko still need to dig a lot of potatoes)))
    1. Mister22408
      Mister22408 12 January 2016 19: 52 New
      0
      94th year. HF a-1594 from Ochakovo. The article where it is described is “Privatstvo” by S. Kozlov in “Soldier of Fortune”. True, then the brigade commander Karpenko said that this is all nonsense ... Not nonsense.
    2. Flor Fokic
      Flor Fokic 13 January 2016 02: 09 New
      +1
      Quote: Gray 43
      Yanukovych, for some reason, flinched

      Somehow faltered?
      Yes, he was holding his eggs ... do you think there was a chubby dad in some Pentagon safe with the words "Yanukovych" and the note "keep forever"?
  28. Siberia 9444
    Siberia 9444 12 January 2016 17: 18 New
    +3
    I think the West and Europe of the frenzy for the most part, not only our Crimea but also how it became ours. And this shows a lot of the work of special services and of course our valiant army. About the willpower of Crimeans, I generally keep quiet. Donbass is our pain.
  29. Dr. Bormental
    Dr. Bormental 12 January 2016 17: 19 New
    14
    when planning this operation, the Americans did not take into account the most important thing - the mentality of local residents. In 2010 My wife and I spent my honeymoon in Sevastopol. I’ll make a reservation right away — we were in Ukraine for the first time. We removed some acquaintances from work in the private sector (not the point). The owners (a young couple under 40 years old, well-off, a husband on a good SUV) told such things about the Ukrainians that my ears were rolled up !!!! When I asked why they did not like their fellow citizens and the country so much, they told me that only Russians live here, and they do not consider themselves Ukrainians !! For me it was just a shock. The next shock I had was when I did not see street names or outdoor advertisements on mov (they were very proud of it by the way) - I thought that I had come to a foreign country !. I heard Mova the only time a crowd of 10-15 people kicked out a Ukrainian couple from the beach (!), Because they were drunk, spoke a mov and joked over the Russians - and drove them out with the words "fuck ... those to their Ukraine." Note this was 2010.
    P.S. The customs officers robbed us of the train twice at the entrance and exit for 40 bucks.
  30. kotovckiy
    kotovckiy 12 January 2016 17: 19 New
    27
    In Crimea, there would be no war, but a massacre. The unarmed Crimeans would have been opposed by armed right-wingers who plundered weapons depots and Tatar radicals in western Ukraine. Putin saved our lives. Thanks to the GDP, thanks to the Polite people, thanks to the Russians for accepting.
    1. Dr. Bormental
      Dr. Bormental 12 January 2016 17: 32 New
      13
      How could we not accept you? When you became part of the Russian Federation, we, in St. Petersburg, simply had a holiday. People as in the New Year rejoiced, fireworks were launched. you endure there, it’s not sweet for you now, but everything will work out, because we are now together smile
  31. Flat5160
    Flat5160 12 January 2016 17: 21 New
    +6
    Crimea. It was so swift and unexpected, already breathtaking. After Belovezhskaya Pushcha, they gritted their teeth at the mention of the Crimea, when they saw it on TV, in films in the news, etc., hoping in their hearts that something would happen and he would still be with us. And here is such a quick transformation. Putin for this monument and the edifying inscription to the descendants on it, so that they would not be scattered in the commotion. (a hint of Yeltsin and Khrushchev).
    1. gray_angel
      gray_angel 12 January 2016 21: 48 New
      +1
      completely in solidarity ... Putin did what Yeltsin was supposed to do in the 1991m (covetous or hung Kravchuk noodles)
    2. gray_angel
      gray_angel 12 January 2016 21: 48 New
      0
      completely in solidarity ... Putin did what Yeltsin was supposed to do in the 1991m (covetous or hung Kravchuk noodles)
  32. tomcat117
    tomcat117 12 January 2016 17: 28 New
    +1
    Yes, if everything went wrong and our people were kicked out of Crimea in the Donbass, war would have started, here I would like to add that the Khokhlov for surrendering the Crimea to Amers would have been hurt by an adult, not by dragging so much - but at what cost, that’s the question.
    In general, the winner is the one who is trickier, smarter and calculated everything in advance. Our just done, too long from hohlou.rodov suffered humiliation!
  33. Tomsk55
    Tomsk55 12 January 2016 17: 30 New
    +3
    Crimea as it was Russian, it will remain so! Khrushchev himself was independent and in his rule tried more for her than for other republics of the USSR. but Crimea returned to Russia !!! and this is the best memory for those soldiers of Catherine who broke the Ottoman Empire! if necessary, we’ll break it now !!!
  34. Nzn
    Nzn 12 January 2016 17: 30 New
    +2
    An interesting and much explanatory article. Now Crimea is like a stone in the boot of Uncle Sam, Richard and other Hans - neither jump nor run :)
  35. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 12 January 2016 17: 32 New
    +2
    Unique, unprecedented in world history, "annexation"- without a single killed or wounded (or was there one anyway?). laughing

    Is it Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Syria - no matterannexation"; just a few millions of losses and tens of millions of refugees. Such is the tolerant morality. laughing

    The history of Crimea includes a criminal betrayal of 92 years. What Khrushchev did there - in a single country - nobody really cares (unless from a formal legal point of view); Russians, as they were Russians, remained so after 54 years; no one sent them friendship trains with banderlogs and did not scare Amer values.
    But then in the year 92 - then it was noticeable; because the real section was; it was really different, the state was already initially turned in the wrong direction. What the creators of this action thought is incomprehensible.

    Incidentally, according to the mythology of ukrov, since LDNR are separatists, then all of Ukraine is a separatist region, starting in '92.
    1. Dr. Bormental
      Dr. Bormental 12 January 2016 17: 37 New
      0
      One was - he happily drank too much and died, but note the death was pleased and with a smile on his lips repeat
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    4. Weyland
      Weyland 12 January 2016 20: 40 New
      +1
      Quote: Gormengast
      Unique, unprecedented in world history, "annexation" - without a single killed or wounded (or was there one one?).


      Not unique and seen. “Annexation” by Nevelsky (with some hundred sailors) of the Khabarovsk Territory and Primorye, which are almost as large as the whole of Ukraine in terms of area (though they were inferior in terms of population and Crimea ...) - it was super!
  36. Kirill750
    Kirill750 12 January 2016 17: 42 New
    0
    in Crimea there would be such a mess that the hell in hell would be sick Very good that it all worked out I really want two people to tear their heads off the Crimea and not only (Khrushchev and Yeltsin) oh how I wanted
  37. Scud
    Scud 12 January 2016 17: 44 New
    -1
    The article is somewhat controversial. Yes, Crimea has a very, very big strategist. value, but the Americans can both in Romania and Bulgaria and in Turkey (where there were already rockets with nuclear stuffing) place whatever they want. Maidown was planned to seize power at all costs, and there already for the Americans walk-field. The author saw state purchases from the United States, but the director of the CIA secretly flew to Kuev immediately after Yanyka’s flight, but the author didn’t notice, and this is perhaps the most important thing. But if you go on the topic, if, then for fun, gather a crowd with weapons and dill flags and call yourself an activist and a member of the anti-terrorist operation or a cyborg, you can safely capture any ODA.
    1. meriem1
      meriem1 12 January 2016 18: 22 New
      +2
      Quote: scud
      The article is somewhat controversial. Yes, Crimea has a very, very big strategist. value, but the Americans can both in Romania and Bulgaria and in Turkey (where there were already rockets with nuclear stuffing) place whatever they want. Maidown was planned to seize power at all costs, and there already for the Americans walk-field. The author saw state purchases from the United States, but the director of the CIA secretly flew to Kuev immediately after Yanyka’s flight, but the author didn’t notice, and this is perhaps the most important thing. But if you go on the topic, if, then for fun, gather a crowd with weapons and dill flags and call yourself an activist and a member of the anti-terrorist operation or a cyborg, you can safely capture any ODA.


      Aw !!! Are you seriously writing what you think ??? And what about the rockets here? Sevastopol is a strategic object. No Constance, for example, and others like them, is equal in location. And the author noticed everything. Do not chew the same to you! And Dill has nothing to do with it! Crimea was always Russian !!! There, a meter deep in blood, everything is watered with Russian. In a strange way, your post is unpleasantly in harmony with the yellow-blue flag next to your avatar. You already decide WHO YOU ARE!
      1. Scud
        Scud 12 January 2016 18: 40 New
        +2
        The Ukropov flag has been causing me a gag reflex for a long time, but I don’t catch it. As for Constanta, Ukropia can place any objects by bilateral agreements without even being a member of NATO. Power in Dill = Bendero-fascist and in my posts it is visible.
      2. Scud
        Scud 12 January 2016 18: 40 New
        0
        The Ukropov flag has been causing me a gag reflex for a long time, but I don’t catch it. As for Constanta, Ukropia can place any objects by bilateral agreements without even being a member of NATO. Power in Dill = Bendero-fascist and in my posts it is visible.
    2. yurii p
      yurii p 13 January 2016 08: 35 New
      0
      another reason why the United States wanted to get Crimea, if the US troops were deployed in Crimea, their missiles would be sent beyond the Urals, i.e. all of Siberia.
  38. Scud
    Scud 12 January 2016 18: 00 New
    0
    By the way, I watched today, Die Hard, and so there is Channel 5. Sometimes I thought why Waltzman-Potroshenko called the channel = 5
  39. evge-malyshev
    evge-malyshev 12 January 2016 18: 03 New
    +2
    Premonition of a civil war: from what the Crimea saved

    For some reason, I immediately strained the title of the article: are there really any difficulties in the Crimea again? But after reading, I realized that we are talking about 2014. Accepted the article with a "+" sign. And the title of the article would end with "... from which Crimea was saved in 2014."
  40. Shark Lover
    Shark Lover 12 January 2016 18: 08 New
    +6
    Recently watched videos on polite people on YouTube. Immediately after the return of Crimea, there was an idea that everything went by itself. Now it’s clearly visible and understandable, our actions were planned, honed, maybe there were even training at the training grounds. To carry out such an operation, military, special, without casualties, with such troops on the adjacent side, in such a territory, the General Staff, intelligence low bow, there are OFFICERS- pros in their field! Even with the full assistance of the local population and Turchinov’s dibilism. Once planned, then all this was read at least half a year or a year, for this bow to strategic analysts. Someone may say that everything was impromptu, but then the level of preparedness and readiness of our Army does not fit into my head. I think all the same, we saw and prepared strategically. But since there are military strategists, why aren’t there in the economy ???? Or is there? So in economics, it’s all about sabotage artists? Who are they? Or is there no scale? Some kind of bifurcation, in one brilliant, in another brilliant. It’s strange.
    1. Spnsr
      Spnsr 12 January 2016 22: 10 New
      +2
      Quote: Shark Lover
      the level of preparation and readiness of our Army does not fit our heads.

      if the personnel knows how to handle weapons, and does everything on command, then this operation could have gone through impromptu!
      in general, this post is all higher in order to pour in the last lines:
      Quote: Shark Lover
      But since there are military strategists, why aren’t there in the economy ???? Or is there? So in economics, it’s all about sabotage artists? Who are they? Or is there no scale? Some kind of bifurcation, in one brilliant, in another brilliant. It’s strange.

      ??
  41. Olezhek
    Olezhek 12 January 2016 18: 14 New
    0
    Thanks for the article: noticed long ago - the Black Sea Fleet was one of the main contributors to the budget of Ukraine, at the same time
    Ukraine has concentrated all that is possible from its APU in the Crimea.
    What for?
    So to say - fraternal peoples and then vdrukk. By the way, if ukraindia did not suffer from such garbage, the Crimea could have remained in its composition.
    Paradox.
  42. Olezhek
    Olezhek 12 January 2016 18: 15 New
    0
    Already by 2007, the grouping of Ukrainian troops in the Crimea numbered more than 17 thousands of servicemen, and by 2013 almost 20 thousands. This is a third (!) Of all the armed forces of Ukraine at that time, and as for aviation and air defense, almost half of what could fly and shoot.


    Brothers why ?? belay
  43. Karayakupovo
    Karayakupovo 12 January 2016 18: 41 New
    16
    I, as the captain of a Russian ship, can openly declare. Never and nowhere in the Crimea has anyone been to Ukraine. They always told me (that this lover of corn would turn over in a tomb) - we are RUSSIAN. (I am a Muslim from Ufa). So, to hell with them, and not OUR pride-SEVASTOPOL with Crimea.
  44. Prutkov
    Prutkov 12 January 2016 19: 24 New
    +8
    Ukrainians are offended that Russia has "squeezed" Crimea with Sevastopol, but they completely forget how they squeezed themselves in the 90s. Sevastopol, which was never administratively part of the Autonomous Republic of Crimea, was not in any way Ukrainian. And the fact that the EBN got drunk "did not notice" the loss is somehow silent.
  45. Clueless
    Clueless 12 January 2016 19: 35 New
    +7
    The only bad thing - before the Crimea everyone thought that our army was a bunch of chukhans, in torn clothes, Kalash from the 80s, rotten equipment, etc.

    And now the cards are open - they realized that they had miscalculated very much in the assessment of our forces, and they really became scared. Would we live in Europe or the USA - we would be scared tooif Russia, without killing and especially resistance, took control of a territory the size of some European countries. That’s why they scream in Estonia, Lithuania, etc. - when they pour such a “tub of water”, you immediately understand that NATO will not have time to help you in a trite way if they seriously offend us. And most importantly - it began to understand the people in Europe.

    So they have to tighten our nuts, showing that we are stronger than Russia, etc. I suspect that these sanctions will be found by my grandchildren, and no one will particularly remove them. They will try to strangle us at all costs, even if for this they need to lose a couple of “like their own” from the category of Turkey, there will be constant fraud and provocation.

    And now there’s also an operation in Syria, it turns out we still have planes, and they are flying. Then there are boats with cruise missiles. Then the submarines. If they show a spaceship, then in general they will clog in their holes from fright.

    They will not fight with us openly, because a war with the use of nuclear weapons will do irreparable damage to them, but for us it will be much simpler, the country is huge, we have places to live, and what to eat, in the last resort we’ll go and give the stars a who will have uninfected territory.

    And as for the operation in the Crimea - I think we will not when we don’t know how everything was in fact, because we know the current visible part - the information, military. But I am tormented by suspicions that some of the “actions of the Ukrainian patriots at that time” were very beneficial to us, as if someone had been very competent, but secretly manipulating them, and from time to time they continue to do this in our interests. I hope that this is indeed the case, which means that intelligence has finally risen to the same level as it was under the USSR.
  46. Clueless
    Clueless 12 January 2016 19: 56 New
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    Quote: Shark Lover
    But since there are military strategists, why aren’t there in the economy ???? Or is there? So in economics, it’s all about sabotage artists?


    Because the economy is much more complicated. It is very seriously tied up on a global scale, a lot of exchanges, each country with its own quirks, printing presses, technologies, etc.

    Our military school has always been excellent, but economic, especially of an international level - where should we get from it if we started (and we are starting to start today) more than 20 years ago to integrate into the world economy. Moreover, we study at their “school”, because it is not ours, and “their school” is not always suitable for our economy.

    We don’t have the concept of "honor“in business - for example, by the nature of my activity, I talked over a year and a half with almost a hundred entrepreneurs who own both small and large businesses (canneries, car dealership networks, etc.) - 90 percent of these people will be happy to do over They arrived on the population, not caring that they essentially rob it. They are used to excess profits, tax evasion, and gray salaries. Do you know the remaining 10 percent, mainly who? They are young people who are 23-32 years old, they they want to do a normal business without robbing their own population - they don’t have much current for them — we just need to raise their business to a serious level, and officials, their “more arrogant” competitors, prosecutors, even firefighters begin to nightmare them that the tax and others quietly stand by and teasing with a foot) start to milk them so that you’ll develop a hell. If you want development, play according to the rules of those 90a percent. the suggestion hom, then the trail will say - you want to live, rewrite the business, or thunder in the press hut, and you will leave the disabled person with a torn ass.

    What about investors? Bandit on a bandit, current legalized after 90s. Should they understand that your project is interesting, then they will take it from you without any problems. Going to the bank for investment? The same bandits, current in more expensive suits, moreover, under the roof of a huge bureaucratic apparatus. And what is there to hide - all normal loans, they go their own, and the crumbs for show are to the rest of the mortals.

    Until young people grow up and most of the snickering entrepreneurs from the 90s die, the economy will not rise. The main thing is that young people are not ruined :(
    1. serezhasoldatow
      serezhasoldatow 12 January 2016 22: 37 New
      +1
      And in your thoughts there is a big grain of truth. +++
  47. liza1999
    liza1999 12 January 2016 21: 41 New
    +5
    Here is an argument into an argument that I myself am talking to doubting or not fully understanding people. Although, believe me, in Estonia, among Russian speakers, there are practically none (and these are Russians, Ukrainians, Belarusians, and Tatars ... Yes, anyone). Everyone understands everything perfectly. No propaganda by the pro-NATO Estonian authorities is in effect. The reaction is exactly the opposite (here, by the way, an interesting phenomenon).
  48. Ros 56
    Ros 56 12 January 2016 22: 50 New
    0
    They really could not explain this wonderful logic of theirs, they only claimed that the war in Ukraine had broken out over the Crimea. There was a slight hint in this that the punitive operation in the Donbass was almost a revenge of the Kiev authorities for the lost territorial integrity, which, you see, is charmingly a little more than completely. To kill really one for the made-up sins of others is, perhaps, extremely clever.

    The tram left, what to talk about now. I have only a question on the quote, but in my opinion these dels .. will not answer. And why they began to peck the Donbass, why not Lviv, not Poltava, not Nikolaev, not Dnepropetrovsk.
  49. Lucy
    Lucy 12 January 2016 23: 34 New
    +1
    Map nada finish. And then, as in "Two comrades served."
    The article can not be read, or anything interesting, individual figures from the ceiling. Who liked the article Oleg Denezhka, you can read http://nahnews.org/tag/oleg-denezhka/
  50. okroshka79
    okroshka79 12 January 2016 23: 47 New
    +3
    And not fools Americans! They chose a secondary school No. 5, which, in addition to a large educational building and a large territory, dominated in height of the terrain practically throughout the center of the city of Sevastopol. But such a bummer! Thanks to the author for a sound analysis of possible events in the Crimea.