Media: Aircraft of the British Air Force first hit the positions of the IG missiles "Brimstone"

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Information Agency Rider reports that British military aircraft attacked DAISH (IG) militants in Iraq, using high-precision missiles for the first time Brimstone class "air-ground". The news agency refers to the head of the British Cabinet of Ministers David Cameron.

Media: Aircraft of the British Air Force first hit the positions of the IG missiles "Brimstone"


At the same time, according to the tradition established in the camp of the western coalition, neither the launches of the missiles themselves from the planes, nor the results of air strikes were demonstrated. Which objects were hit by missiles with homing heads, is also not reported.

For your information:
Brimstone - air-to-ground self-guided missile that entered service with the British Royal Air Force in 2005. Upgraded Brimstone rockets have the possibility of laser targeting. Start of development is dated 1996 year. The declared range of the rocket is about 22 km. However, the British media write that the radius of destruction of targets for new modifications has been increased at least threefold.

The Brimstone missiles were once actively used against government forces in Libya during the NATO operation, which led to the complete collapse of the once highly successful North African country.
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  1. +4
    11 January 2016 16: 17
    At the same time, according to the tradition established in the camp of the western coalition, neither the launches of the missiles themselves from the planes, nor the results of air strikes were demonstrated. Which objects were hit by missiles with homing heads, is also not reported.



    Well, then they’ll figure it out and if they really hit not on peaceful objects, but on militants, then they will show and tell. And now you can simply proudly say that they bombed the terrorists.
    1. +13
      11 January 2016 16: 18
      War with daish

      Victory over another excavator? Or did they work for the hospital?
      1. +3
        11 January 2016 17: 53
        Quote: fox21h
        Victory over another excavator? Or did they work for the hospital?

        I know why NATO uses precise weapons in the fight against ISIS, in order to definitely not get into them.)
        1. 0
          11 January 2016 23: 53
          Quote: Phantom Revolution
          I know why NATO uses precise weapons in the fight against ISIS, in order to definitely not get into them.)

          Well, who will destroy their own sources of income?
    2. +2
      11 January 2016 16: 21
      Quote: Lesovik
      then they will show and tell.
      - Well, after the enchanting use of various types of ammunition by Russia, the Angles decided to crow. "We can do something too !!!"
      1. +14
        11 January 2016 16: 24
        Quote: prabiz
        We’ve fired a shot, where is it? recourse

        In the desert there are a lot of dunes; fellow
        1. +3
          11 January 2016 16: 31
          Quote: vlad66
          In the desert there are a lot of dunes;

          --------------------------
          They are already sort of like a year and a half dunes open their rockets. The financial result is so decent in terms of expenses. With this money, it would be possible to green everything that they bombed.
    3. +2
      11 January 2016 16: 22
      Quote: Lesovik




      ... Well then they’ll figure it out and if they really didn’t hit the peaceful objects, but the militants, then they will show and tell. And now you can simply proudly say that they bombed the terrorists.

      As soon as the latest video appears on the website of the Russian Ministry of Defense, they’ll immediately post it! smile
    4. 0
      11 January 2016 17: 09
      with laser? then in the bushes there was a masked gunner with a laser-maser ...
      1. 0
        11 January 2016 18: 28
        Quote: Author
        Upgraded Brimstone missiles have the ability to laser targeting.


        The article has a typo. They had laser guidance before. The upgraded version received an active millimeter seeker combined with a laser.

        In general, a very interesting solution in terms of price-quality ratio. We should think about adapting Cornet to similar tasks.
        1. +4
          11 January 2016 22: 15
          Quote: Falcon
          The article has a typo. They had laser guidance before.

          No not like this.
          Designed by the original laser seeker from AGM-114 Hellfire. During development, almost everything was redesigned, AGM-114 was abandoned from LGS
          Initially (entering service) had only ARGSN millimeter range.

          Experience in Afghanistan (negative), urgently required retrofitting with a dual-mode guidance system. Urgent Operational Requirement in 2008

          Added a laser (which allows the "gunner" to select specific targets when it is possible to defeat friendly forces or civilians.

          Upgrading to 2 modes cost a budget (from single mode) between £ 35,000 and £ 45,000 plus VAT

          laser GOS according to STANAG 3733 (theoretically it can support the 2nd illumination while it does not work)


          can hit targets moving at 50 mph



          1.) SPEAR Capability 2 Block 1 (the suspension on the Tornado of 11.2015 should have been) targets up to 70 mph (110 km / h)
          2.) SPEAR Drop 2 (JSOW-ER) with Hamilton Sundstrand TJ-150 turbojet remote control range up to 100-120 km
          1. +3
            11 January 2016 22: 23
            version of Brimstone "Sea Spear" and "remained" single-mode (millimeter gsn)



            hits targets up to 20 kts ... the truth is not always successful yet (it seems that they drowned fishermen who had nothing to do with it)
            Quote: Falcon
            In general, a very interesting solution in terms of price-quality ratio.

            Over £ 100 for 000kg and 49m? Blomberg is scandalous, claiming that they cost the RAF £ 1.8 ($ 175,000) apiece. The Daily Telegraph argues that dual-mode missiles cost about £ 263,000.
            Sold for £ 10 million Royal Saudi Air Force for use on their Tornados.
            It seems that India sent a request for integration into the Su-30MKI fleet.
            / But they promised no more than £ 57000 + VAT
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        2. +2
          11 January 2016 22: 37
          Thanks to read your comments are always interesting. So everything on the shelves!
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  2. +2
    11 January 2016 16: 18
    Amazed. And sho? What was the point of spending such expensive weapons? Ditch the gang of terrorists or their construction? Or their shaitan-arbu, sorry, Toyota Hilux. It is absolutely incomprehensible to me. Scare us? Meaning? We already know that their precision missiles are the most missile in the world.
    1. +1
      11 January 2016 17: 18
      Quote: Altona
      What was the point of spending such expensive weapons?

      Tests in conditions close to combat. Yes
  3. +2
    11 January 2016 16: 19
    We’ve fired a shot, where is it? recourse
    1. +5
      11 January 2016 16: 28
      The bomb always hits exactly the epicenter!
  4. +2
    11 January 2016 16: 20
    The main thing is to blather on time that they were applied. Then they’ll figure out where they got !!!
  5. +3
    11 January 2016 16: 21
    Well then. The polygon continues to work. Everyone has their own goals, some confidently demonstrate the effectiveness of their weapons, others stubbornly hide their figs in their pockets, "but I have something."
  6. +4
    11 January 2016 16: 21
    Brimstone - tandem anti-tank missile
    kumm. warhead.
    They apparently want to use it against any moving
    pickups - try it out, so to speak.
    1. 0
      11 January 2016 16: 35
      Quote: voyaka uh
      They apparently want to use it against any moving
      pickups - try it out, so to speak.

      ----------------------
      I sincerely sympathize with all kinds of pickups and trucks that move there. Above are Brimstone British missiles, below are ambushes by fighters from TOW ATGMs. This is some kind of horror for which anti-tank weapons are used. ANTITANK, CARL, against ordinary pickup trucks!
    2. +1
      11 January 2016 16: 41
      It’s like hammering nails with a microscope. laughing
      And what does laser homing mean? Highlighted - launched - then the rocket itself illuminates the target or what? Just in the photo I see a classic head for working on a reflected laser beam, i.e. with external target designation. Or did they illuminate the target — did the rocket calculate the trajectory, go by inertial, on approaching it, take the contrast spot in the IR spot closest to the calculated point and put a jet into it?
      1. +3
        11 January 2016 18: 05
        "It's like hammering nails with a microscope, for pickups" ////

        For the price - yes. And according to checks of the maximum ability of weapons -
        another thing. It's one thing - a pickup at high speed rushes along a winding
        road, the other is a slowly crawling tank.
        If you managed to get on a pickup truck, then even more soak on the tower and the tank when needed.

        In Lebanon, Israel had a problem - off-road motorcycles with which militants
        Hezbollah remotely fired rockets at Israeli ambush positions in Israeli cities.
        To get with the F-16 rocket into a racing motorcycle was an infrequent luck.
        Now UAVs do this more accurately with special mini-missiles.
      2. +1
        11 January 2016 18: 35
        Quote: vadimtt
        It’s like hammering nails with a microscope.


        Are there cheaper options?
        Well, either the jamming cannon is jammed, or the old 200 / 500kg fabs are jammed. Not very environmentally friendly, especially in the vicinity of peaceful facilities.

        And this is an ideal high-precision weapon, for a point defeat
    3. +1
      11 January 2016 17: 07
      .... Brimstone - anti-tank missile with a tandem
      kumm. warhead.
      They apparently want to use it against any moving
      pickups - try it out, so to speak ....

      .... Only now it smiled: ".... The declared range of the missile is about 22 km. However, the British media write that the radius of destruction of targets for new modifications has been increased at least threefold. ..." .... Three times !!!! .... And this is with laser guidance ????? .... belay
      1. 0
        11 January 2016 18: 30
        Quote: aleks 62 next
        Three times !!!! .... And this is laser-guided ????? ....


        I don’t know about three times, but modernized with millimeter AGSN in addition to laser aiming
      2. +1
        11 January 2016 21: 34
        Quote: aleks 62 next

        .... Only now it smiled: ".... The declared range of the missile is about 22 km. However, the British media write that the radius of destruction of targets for new modifications has been increased at least threefold. ..." .... Three times !!!! .... And this is with laser guidance ????? .... belay


        The first version flew on 8 km. The second on 22. So it turns out 3 times.
        Plus it has already been said that the first version is laser. The second is a double GOS. Laser + millimeter.
      3. +1
        11 January 2016 23: 28
        Quote: aleks 62 next
        .Three !!!! .... And this is laser-guided ?????.

        1.Officially declared range is up to 32 km.
        2. She has a 2-mode GOS (94Hz ARGS + laser standard STANAG 3733) and have ANN
        theoretically, it can go to the target area without visual identification of the operator.
        And in ARGS, the radar picture of targets on this theater is always loaded from the carrier

        4. Three (range), this is SPEAR Drop 2 (JSOW-ER) with Hamilton Sundstrand TJ-150 turbojet remote control range up to 100-120 km (trials go from 2014 to Typhoon)

        illumination in this case from a drone (BAE Mantis, Avenger, Reaper) with data transfer to the medium.
        Tests: Spiral 1 and 2
    4. +1
      11 January 2016 23: 12
      Quote: voyaka uh
      They apparently want to use it against any moving
      pickups - try it out, so to speak.

      it was on pickups and tested:

      55 mph

      Well, on Libyan tanks


      Quote: voyaka uh
      tandem anti-tank missile

      This was the TK: Staff Requirement (Air) 1238 was issued, known as the Advanced Anti-Armor Weapon (AAAW)

      Based on technologies from Thorn EMI, Hunting Engineering, Texas Instruments, British Aerospace Dynamics and GEC Marconi.

      as well as the German Smart Weapon Anti-Armor (SWAARM) from Daimler Benz Aerospace Mehrzweckwaffe 2 which was based on Mehrzweckwaffe 1



      first yes

      had: before the warhead at 300g, tilted down at an angle to make it more effective against reactive armor and the main 6.2kg warhead.



      now a slightly different (increased) warhead
      1. 0
        11 January 2016 23: 54
        So this rocket shoots on the principle of let go - forgot.
        1. +1
          12 January 2016 00: 28
          Quote: Vadim237
          So this rocket shoots on the principle of let go - forgot.

          not yet (if the laser mode is used)

          the operator keeps the cross on the target until it is defeated:

          aimed, holds

          target destroyed, may not hold
          ARGSN millimeter wave can "independently" if the Weapon systems officer ("WSO" - "wizzo") loaded target data into it and such targets WILL FIND.
          wizzo can receive data from RAF ASTOR, USAF Northrop Grumman E-8 Joint STARS or local DRG (with connection).
          There is no goal in the self-destruction zone.
          They also have an algorithm for selecting targets for m / y missiles at group launch of 24 missiles at a group target.
          They don’t say exactly, but they hit targets not simultaneously, but in a staggered manner
  7. +1
    11 January 2016 16: 22
    again a hospital of "doctors" ?? even not rushing tsru - "without borders" air force without borders ..
  8. +3
    11 January 2016 16: 28
    ...cabinet Minister David Cameron ...
    So the author delicately emphasized the role of the British prime minister in world politics ???
    Already corrected)) political correctness of what?)))
  9. +2
    11 January 2016 16: 29
    where they aimed, where they hit, whether they shot at all laughing it is not clear.

    As they say today, they were checked in in Syria. laughing laughing
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    +2
    11 January 2016 16: 36
    Media: Aircraft of the British Air Force first hit the positions of the IG missiles "Brimstone"
    ..been born..types are also fighting .. laughing
  11. +2
    11 January 2016 16: 40
    That is what the Saudis are denying from a bombed hospital in Yemen. Not we, they say, bombed doctors without borders! In the light of this article, maybe they really aren’t? Maybe it’s the British’s missiles, they were fired by militants in Syria, and they’re going to Yemen and the hospital - bang!
  12. +2
    11 January 2016 16: 42
    Let's consider this a British fake and bring it to all Anglo-Saxons. After all, nothing is confirmed, but because the English lies and lies.
    1. +1
      11 January 2016 16: 45
      But the truth is! Once upon a time there is an Internet meme British scientists laughing
      1. 0
        11 January 2016 17: 08
        Quote: Gormengast
        internet meme british scientists

        Lieutenant Rzhevsky, V.I. Chapaev, traffic cops, and British scientists, these are characters of jokes. laughing They should not be taken seriously. No.
  13. +1
    11 January 2016 16: 47
    The Reuters news agency reports that British military aircraft attacked the DAISH (IG) militants in Iraq, using for the first time in the operation high-precision air-to-ground Brimstone missiles. The news agency refers to the head of the British Cabinet of Ministers David Cameron.
    The venerable Sir Cameron has established himself as an excellent liar, and therefore the success of the British causes me strong doubts. No. Moreover, there is no evidence. request that these missiles were actually used, and were not photographed for any magazine a few years ago ... Sir. hi
  14. 0
    11 January 2016 20: 32
    Not a war, but some kind of demonstration of weapons.
  15. 0
    11 January 2016 21: 11
    Poor camels. sad Smashed them to pieces.