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US and Japan will begin joint production of interceptor missiles

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The United States and Japan are preparing to jointly produce SM-2017 interceptor missiles with 3 under the pretext of protecting against North Korean ballistic missiles, RIA News message channel NHK.


Standard Missile-3 Block IIA 6 June 2015 Year

According to the information, the defense ministries of the two countries intend to “produce in Japan the components of SM-3 Block 2A missiles, which are planned to be tested in the Pacific Ocean around the Hawaiian Islands with ships equipped with the Aegis missile defense system early next year”.

The publication reminds that “the SM-3 rocket, developed by Raytheon, is one of the newest joint projects of Japan and the United States to upgrade the Aegis system”. Earlier it was reported on the successful completion of its second test. Raytheon plans to launch 17 for such missiles.



At the end of 2015, the media reported on the North Korean fleet tests of a ballistic missile launched from a submarine. According to publications, this “missile can be equipped with a nuclear warhead.
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  1. cniza
    cniza 10 January 2016 12: 44
    +9
    The enemy is found, grandmothers can be distinguished ... MIC and lobby steers
    1. Ami du peuple
      Ami du peuple 10 January 2016 12: 46
      14
      Cooperation: from the Americans - a rocket, from the Japanese - a pilot kamikaze for her.
      1. yuriy55
        yuriy55 10 January 2016 12: 56
        +2
        Sorry for these Japanese ... We have a lot more that we could have fucked (cars, electronics ...)

        They preferred a normal life to the union - the Union of the samurai sword and the American screaming (slurping) ... laughing
        1. Pereira
          Pereira 10 January 2016 12: 58
          +5
          Japan is an occupied country. And not so much by military means, how much moral and mental. They are not independent in their choice.
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        3. Dam
          Dam 10 January 2016 13: 30
          +6
          And they have no choice and never had. They have been occupied since 1945. And the colonial administration is nurtured like vegetables on a bed with mattresses
        4. Bayonet
          Bayonet 10 January 2016 14: 08
          +9
          Quote: yuriy55
          Sorry for these Japanese ... We have a lot more that we could have fucked (cars, electronics ...)

          And why feel sorry for them and worry about what else they could have fucked with them? It seems they’re not going to fly anywhere. Can learn how to make good cars and electronics? smile
          1. sa-ag
            sa-ag 10 January 2016 14: 17
            0
            Quote: Bayonet
            Can learn to make good cars themselves

            The experiment failed :-)
            1. opus
              opus 10 January 2016 17: 15
              +4
              Quote: sa-ag
              The experiment failed :-)

              anything happens.
              -Trying to protect your market from low-quality German goods, at the very end of the 19th century, Great Britain introduced mandatory labeling of goods coming from Germany - "Made in Germany". But after 30 years, German products became so high-quality that in fact this marking turned into a kind of quality mark.
              -A little more than half a century ago, a huge achievement in the Republic of Korea seemed to be the manufacture of a company KIA first Korean bicycle ...
              The name KIA stands for "Exit Asia to the World" ("Enter the World from Asia").
              I’m thinking a lot: buy a Korean or a German. And the choice of 80% will not be in the German side, although since 1996 I have been driving Germans only

              Well and funny
              - It’s not strange, but Australia belay exports camels to the Middle East. And all because the biggest the number of wild camels is in Australia - they were brought there already in the 19th century
        5. opus
          opus 10 January 2016 14: 13
          +3
          Quote: yuriy55
          Preferred normal life to the union - The union of the samurai sword and American screaming (slurped)

          You have forgotten that in Japanese industry the BASIS is mostly American technologies and patents (after 2MB, and before: English and German)
          "Mitsui", "Mitsubishi", "Sumitomo" pillars of Japanese nuclear energy - almost 100% of American technology

          ================================
          and it was like this: In the mid-30s of the 20th century, a law was passed in Japan, according to which all enterprises located in Japan became the property of Japan. As a result, American companies were forced to curtail their activities in Japan. The result - the automotive industry of the country of the rising sun was increasingly lagging behind the world level .... and completely behind


          On June 26, 1950, the war in Korea began. To ensure the fighting, the United States began to purchase steel, automobiles, pharmaceuticals, textiles and much more from Japan. The Japanese called this event "blessed rain after a drought". American special orders allowed automobile companies Toyota, Nisan, Isuzu to become one of the leading industrial companies in the country. A major role in the rise of the automotive industry was played by the American Car Restoration Program. She acted since 1945
          Nihon no boeki doko (Dynamics of Japanese trade). Tokyo, 2006, Asahi Shimbun. Japan Almanac. 2005
        6. Aleksey_K
          Aleksey_K 10 January 2016 14: 29
          +2
          Quote: yuriy55
          Sorry for these Japanese ... We have a lot more that we could have fucked (cars, electronics ...)

          They preferred a normal life to the union - the Union of the samurai sword and the American screaming (slurping) ... laughing

          Until recently, we were selling gas, coal and electricity to Ukrainians, and we are ENEMIES for them. So what about Japanese technology do not worry. There are many more traitors in Russia at the head of Russia.
      2. Inok10
        Inok10 10 January 2016 12: 56
        +4
        Quote: Ami du peuple
        Cooperation: from the Americans - a rocket, from the Japanese - a pilot kamikaze for her.

        .. about Standard Missile-3 Block IIA
        The Mk 142 interception stage is a homing device, on board of which there are a matrix IR-GOS with a cryogenic unit, several processors, a solid propellant maneuvering and orientation installation (DACS), a power source and a number of other subsystems.
        While advertising its achievements in the development of the interception stage at the initial stages of work, Raytheon reported that the detection range of the IR-GOS target is more than 300 km, and the use of DACS allows you to deflect its flight path to a distance of more than 3-3,2 km. Source: http://rbase.new-factoria.ru/missile/wobb/sm3/sm3.shtml
        .. and more about deploying Standard Missile-3 Block IIA ..
        As of 2012 129 missiles were delivered to the US Navy (mainly in Block I / IA variants), a total of 2020 missiles are planned to be delivered by 678, the number of destroyers capable of carrying SM-3s will increase to 32 units.
        In parallel with the modernization of the rocket itself, active work is underway to integrate the SM-3 with other combat control and detection systems. Raytheon has announced the completion of prototype equipment for a dual-band data line that enables the use of the full range of SM-3 interceptor missiles by ships equipped with Aegis and SMART-L / APAR airborne target radars. The Navy of Denmark, France, Germany, Italy, Holland, Norway, Spain and the UK have more than 20 ships equipped with radars of the Thales SMART-L / APAR family. The ability to integrate SM-3 interceptor missiles with SMART-L / APAR radars makes it possible in principle to use them as part of a single missile defense system.
        In 2013 published information on the completion of the integration of Aegis with the naval combat control system of the Turkish company HAVELSAN. Source: http://rbase.new-factoria.ru/missile/wobb/sm3/sm3.shtml
        .. so that the mattresses are trying to draw everyone under one umbrella .. right in the palm of your hand .. the answer is simple, maneuvering and hypersonic with a quasi-ballistic warhead trajectory .. which our people have already reported on ... and no one has canceled false goals .. hi ..
        1. FIREMAN
          FIREMAN 10 January 2016 13: 06
          +2
          the answer is simple, maneuvering and hypersonic with a quasi-ballistic warhead trajectory .. which our people have already reported on ... and no one has canceled false goals

          You have forgotten about "Status-6", probably "Status-7" or "Status> 0 <" has been prepared for Japan.
      3. spech
        spech 10 January 2016 12: 57
        0
        Cooperation: from the Americans - a rocket, from the Japanese - a pilot kamikaze for her.

        and so-from the Japanese-occasion (here, and South Korea will help)
      4. oldseaman1957
        oldseaman1957 10 January 2016 12: 58
        +5
        Quote: Ami du peuple
        from the Japanese - a kamikaze pilot for her.
        - Don’t tell me. Now the Japanese with their technology can make products that are very problematic for us. Especially with the Americans. So let’s hope very much that this time our military industrial complex will resubmit theirs.
        1. MIKHAN
          MIKHAN 10 January 2016 13: 13
          +1
          Quote: oldseaman1957
          Quote: Ami du peuple
          from the Japanese - a kamikaze pilot for her.
          - Don’t tell me. Now the Japanese with their technology can make products that are very problematic for us. Especially with the Americans. So let’s hope very much that this time our military industrial complex will resubmit theirs.

          The United States pays ... and start tossing around, with their dollars! I think Alaska will soon be surrendered ... (Eun does not like to joke) Russia will not join the arms race .. There are many trump cards, simple and effective! (learned, Yeshkin cat)))) Hello Kozyrev in the United States! hi
          1. Antanas
            Antanas 10 January 2016 19: 10
            +6
            Will they give Alaska? Unu? Does he pretend to it? Guys, you’re just funny with your hat-thinking mood :))) No, I understand, of course - cheers-patriotism is escalated by the media as soon as possible, but you have to be a little more critical .. .
        2. Old Schweik
          Old Schweik 10 January 2016 13: 21
          +1
          Do you think the japons used to stand aside?
          1. MIKHAN
            MIKHAN 10 January 2016 13: 33
            +5
            Quote: Old Schweik
            Do you think the japons used to stand aside?

            The Japanese, like the Turks ... They are waiting for when Russia can begin to shred ... It is in their genes and they smile at us tightly ... And we also "smile" at them bully heh heh ...
            1. Amurets
              Amurets 10 January 2016 14: 45
              +3
              Quote: MIKHAN
              The Japanese, like the Turks ... They are waiting for Russia to start shredding.

              Meehan! You are right to all 200%. During the years of the revolution and the civil war, they did so many misfortunes in Transbaikalia and the Far East. And they also appropriated Russian gold. To confirm Latyshev: "How Japan stole Russian gold." But in the Amur region there were talks about The disappeared gold of the Amur State Bank, the disappeared on the monitor "Groza" and the gold of the convoy sent to Irkutsk from the Zeya mines in the winter of 1920-1921 are also associated with the Japanese.
        3. 34 region
          34 region 10 January 2016 14: 43
          +1
          And who will pay for these products? There are no problems with technology, but what about finances? At whose expense is the banquet? Who and where (from which budgets and funds) will allocate funds?
      5. Amurets
        Amurets 10 January 2016 13: 06
        +5
        Quote: Ami du peuple
        Cooperation: from the Americans - a rocket, from the Japanese - a pilot kamikaze for her.

        Let's not jerk! We are very far from the development and production of electronics, including the military, to the Japanese. And the kamikaze from Japan will be in the form of a robot that they are massively releasing. The enemy has been found a long time ago. This is China, and the DPRK only adds oil to A bonfire. In this situation, the DPRK actually plays into the hands of the United States, creating a new hotbed of tension in the Far Eastern region. That was definitely not enough for us.
        1. Ami du peuple
          Ami du peuple 10 January 2016 14: 02
          0
          Quote: Amurets
          Let's not jerk! We are very far from the development and production of electronics, including military, to the Japanese

          Let's. Let's just give up. But we are up to such technologically advanced states as the USA and Japan, as far as the moon. Why are you fluttering? Dissolve the army, disperse the military-industrial complex. This is how much money you can save!
          Quote: Amurets
          In this situation, the DPRK actually plays into the hands of the United States, creating a new hotbed of tension in the Far Eastern region. This was definitely not enough for us.

          That's right, and we will force North Korea to capitulate - we have enough military force for this. And really, how dare they challenge the world hegemon and its allies? To their nail!
          1. Bayonet
            Bayonet 10 January 2016 14: 14
            +4
            Quote: Ami du peuple
            Let's. Let's just give up.

            Why such extremes? Nobody calls for surrender, but our military power will not increase due to stupid antics, that's for sure!
            1. Ami du peuple
              Ami du peuple 10 January 2016 14: 40
              -3
              Quote: Bayonet
              but from military stupidity our military power will not increase, that's for sure!

              There is no doubt that your seriousness at the VO forum will increase the military power of Russia many times over!
          2. Amurets
            Amurets 10 January 2016 14: 59
            +2
            Quote: Ami du peuple
            Dissolve the RMC, disperse the military-industrial complex. This is how much money you can save!

            I’ve lived all my life in the Far East. A native Amurchan. And I know better than yours what a cunning and treacherous enemy is. Carefully read the members of the forum in this post and do not wave your sword like Erdogan. I had to work and encounter in life both Chinese and Koreans and Japanese and I don’t know any of them who wouldn’t put a knife between your ribs when it suits him.
          3. mvg
            mvg 10 January 2016 17: 12
            0
            That's right, Katz offers to give up
        2. Fafnir
          Fafnir 10 January 2016 14: 24
          10
          The Japanese ... Production of electronics ... And answer a very simple question: why didn’t the Japs have any development in the field of robotics suitable for working in Fukushima? You see, all the achievements of the Japanese cause double feelings. For example, they pride themselves on the accuracy of their train schedules. Well done. And on the other hand, it was forced to do this, due to poor organization of transport, when the recognition of the train for 1,5-2 minutes makes further movement impossible, well, the next train has already left. Many circuitry solutions in electronics are perplexing. Well, if a third of the amplifier corrects the distortions of the first stage caused by an incorrect mode, is this normal? What I agree with is that they have a good elemental base, but all that they do next is ...
          1. Amurets
            Amurets 10 January 2016 15: 37
            +1
            Quote: Fafnir
            And answer a very simple question: why did the Japs not have a single development in the field of robotics suitable for working in Fukushima?

            I don’t know if you will understand me? But sometimes it seemed to me that these were living robots and they did not have the "OR" function, but only "AND" "NO". This was especially striking for me when repairing engines. The slightest deviation from size or shape and the part flies into scrap metal. It is either useless to prove. And I don’t know, or there simply weren’t such Japanese people who could go beyond the instructions. Extreme operation modes and system failures were not envisaged even in the design.
            1. Fafnir
              Fafnir 10 January 2016 19: 48
              +1
              Well, it follows from the mentality of the Japanese wink They do not value the thoughtfulness of design, but the accuracy and subtlety of execution. Have you ever wondered why they are so fond of building useless robots? For clues, the answer is in their religion.
        3. 34 region
          34 region 10 January 2016 14: 50
          0
          In addition to the DPRK, we had enough creators of a source of tension. And Russia (USSR) also created a hotbed of tension. It is only after the elimination of the hotbeds of tension that hotbeds of rarefaction appear. Therefore, it is not the DPRK. Rather, in China and the CIS.
      6. Dembel77
        Dembel77 10 January 2016 13: 24
        +4
        The start of production of these dangerous weapons and their deployment near the Far Eastern borders of Russia will undoubtedly lead to an escalation of the arms race. I hope no one needs to explain to whom it is beneficial. For reference:
        On February 21, 2008, the SM-3 rocket was launched from the Lake Erie cruiser in the Pacific Ocean and, three minutes after launch, it was hit by a 247-kilometer-high emergency reconnaissance satellite USA-193, moving at a speed of 7 m / s (580 km / h).
        Those. SM-3 anti-aircraft missile is guaranteed to destroy any high-altitude high-speed target (SM-3 Block IIA is a version of the anti-missile with a new kinetic interceptor of increased dimensions and new sensory equipment, with high capabilities to discriminate against false targets. Designed to provide the fleet with the ability to intercept intercontinental ballistic missiles It is supposed to be adopted in 2015. It is intended for the destruction of air targets, including ballistic missiles and warheads at atmospheric heights tah.)
        1. Fafnir
          Fafnir 10 January 2016 14: 15
          +1
          With all the seriousness of the characteristics of the rocket, the ability to shoot down (and litter in orbit am ) own satellite, with known parameters of the orbit, is still different from the task of shooting down a rocket with an unknown path in advance. So let's see how this product will justify its handout.
          1. sa-ag
            sa-ag 10 January 2016 14: 22
            +1
            Quote: Fafnir
            a rocket with an unknown path in advance.

            well why unknown, the missile will not be allowed "into a clear field", and the areas of possible strike are calculated on the computer, the trajectory refinement is already ground-based and space-based radars
            1. Fafnir
              Fafnir 10 January 2016 14: 31
              +3
              It miscalculates on a computer ... You see, it takes time to develop a flight mission. When you bring down a satellite you can know its trajectory with almost millimeter accuracy and there should be no problems with a hit. For an enemy launched missile, all parameters must be removed, moreover, quickly, and not the fact that measure everything accurately and on time. If everything was simple, then the same mattresses did not have to put beacons on the target when testing the missile defense.
              1. DobryAAH
                DobryAAH 10 January 2016 15: 01
                +2
                It miscalculates on the computer ...


                I read that minke whales on a computer calculated a nuclear explosion of small power. The test well with the nuclear device was covered with a steel cover 10 cm thick. And they rushed ... Where does the cover go, no one knows? Did it evaporate, or did it fly into the orbit of Pluto? Let them find, then I will believe in their missile defense and computer calculation for it.
                On the high banks of the Amur
                http://oko-planet.su/politik/politikarm/print:page,1,304352-na-vysokih-beregah-a
                mura.html
          2. Vadim237
            Vadim237 10 January 2016 15: 42
            +1
            In the United States, they will immediately see a launch from our territory and will conduct a missile, and then the separated warheads, so that due to the unknown trajectory of the missiles - it’s in vain, they are working hard to improve missile defense systems and interceptor missiles.
        2. quote
          quote 10 January 2016 15: 12
          +5
          Quote: Dembel 77
          Those. SM-3 anti-aircraft missile guaranteed to destroy any high-altitude high-speed target

          Who told you that?
          How long did the STATES have to calculate the trajectory of the "dead" satellite? A week, two? THREE? Eh ????
          If a high-speed target maneuvers "slightly"? What to do? And flies once along an unpredictable trajectory.
          Try at your leisure to think about this miracle. solid propellant maneuvering and orientation propulsion system (DACS), She then "burns" (works) continuously !!!! It is such nonsense!
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 10 January 2016 15: 53
            -1
            They can deliver 50 missiles for each destroyer - for all 75, set up conveyor production of missiles, in the Aegis system there are already computers that calculate the trajectory of air targets, they will see our missiles at launch and will conduct them throughout the flight path.
            1. Fafnir
              Fafnir 10 January 2016 19: 56
              0
              Yeah. And shoot down after. What kind of missiles do you mean?
              1. Vadim237
                Vadim237 10 January 2016 20: 28
                0
                All ICBMs that will launch from land and coastal territory of Russia, when entering missile defense systems, the missiles will be launched, the Aegis missile defense system is not the only one, there are also THHAD and GBi - the USA is also actively developing them, and our launch and deployment areas are already long known.
      7. Aleksey_K
        Aleksey_K 10 January 2016 14: 26
        +1
        Quote: Ami du peuple
        Cooperation: from the Americans - a rocket, from the Japanese - a pilot kamikaze for her.

        I have not read the more stupid design proposed by you. Japanese electronics is still ahead of Russian. All our supercomputers (in Russia) are on imported electronics.
      8. mirag2
        mirag2 10 January 2016 17: 05
        +1
        The United States and Japan have been preparing joint production of SM-2017 interceptor missiles since 3 under the pretext of protecting against North Korean ballistic missiles, the NHK channel reports to RIA Novosti.

        from the Americans - a rocket, from the Japanese - a pilot kamikaze for her.

        - All this is VERY VERY bad.
        There is a merging of technologically developed countries, one of which is an ideologically consistent enemy of the Russian Federation.
        Moreover, the fusion of enemies in fact to counter the third force.
        Another strained for the Russian Federation from "partners".
    2. dmi.pris
      dmi.pris 10 January 2016 13: 07
      0
      Grandmas can be cut .. VPK and the lobby applauds ..
      Quote: cniza
      The enemy is found, grandmothers can be distinguished ... MIC and lobby steers
    3. Major Yurik
      Major Yurik 10 January 2016 13: 25
      +2
      Quote: cniza
      The enemy is found, grandmothers can be distinguished ... MIC and lobby steers


      Yeah, the price list for Yankee services for henpecked countries and pages came out:
      - anti-missiles, no matter from whom, the refusal causes sanctions - 3 billion of our dollars;
      - Span near the alleged enemy on a nuclear ramp under the anthem of America - 30 million dollars;
      - Yankee expression of concern-25 million dollars;
      - nonsense about an opponent in the region, with the involvement of Ukrainians, as the best specialists-200 million dollars;
      - sanctions of any type, announcing that your opponent's economy will be ripped to shreds - $ 2 billion (at the Obama tariff);
      - Placement of old military trash in your territory, at the price of a new-300 million dollars;

      Sabbath Yankees in full, also with pennies trouble. am
    4. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov 10 January 2016 14: 00
      +1
      Another attempt to "intimidate" Russia. And after that the Japs still want to talk about at the highest level.
    5. Aleksey_K
      Aleksey_K 10 January 2016 14: 23
      -2
      Quote: cniza
      The enemy is found, grandmothers can be distinguished ... MIC and lobby steers

      Are you blind or what? DPRK has long been an enemy for the United States. America even fought with the DPRK. What to look for him? But the provocative explosion of the DPRK will untie the hands of the Americans. Koreans absolutely do not understand what they are doing! Dumb completely! Do we (Russia) really need an armed conflict to catch fire in the Far East? And then after all, the advance of the Americans to the borders of China and Russia. Are you happy about this?
      1. 34 region
        34 region 10 January 2016 14: 55
        0
        And what can the US threaten with an explosion off the coast of North Korea? They are not blowing off the coast of the United States.
      2. Rumata
        Rumata 11 January 2016 08: 51
        0
        That's for sure. I think China is now not angry. After this trick of Korea, no one will stop the United States from deploying a serious missile defense system in the region. They have obligations to Japan in this regard, and they have not particularly quarreled. This is a missile defense against Korea, with a wave of the hand can become against China or even Russia. China would not have allowed it before, but now the situation is hopeless.
    6. Max_Bauder
      Max_Bauder 10 January 2016 14: 56
      +2
      True antiwar clip.

    7. Dewa1s
      Dewa1s 11 January 2016 13: 28
      0
      It seems to everyone it should be obvious whose hand is in the ass at the North Korean scarecrow)
  2. oleg-gr
    oleg-gr 10 January 2016 12: 44
    +8
    Good reasons are invented. Europe is afraid of Iranian missiles, in Japan - of North Korea. What a kind "world daddy" FSA.
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet 10 January 2016 14: 57
      0
      Quote: oleg-gr
      Good reasons have been invented. In Europe, they are afraid of Iran’s missiles, in Japan - of North Korea.

      What "reasons" are there? The position of Japan, taking into account the special "love" of the DPRK and the Korean people for this now small island state, with the appearance of the Kims of nuclear weapons and their means of delivery, becomes simply desperate.
  3. LÄRZ
    LÄRZ 10 January 2016 12: 51
    +6
    Yeah, lucky them with this explosion in the DPRK, it’s a sin not to use it. Yes, and restrained Japanese probably hide contented smiles.
    1. family tree
      family tree 10 January 2016 13: 09
      +3
      Quote: LÄRZ
      Yeah, lucky them with this explosion in the DPRK,

      Lucky? The best improvisation is homework. Does Kim No. 3 need money? Pichalka, but there is no USSR, and the PRC also doesn’t have enough of its problems.
      And the states, the region, need to impose one country, in the west and south it seems like everything is in the way, and in the east, Kim, they pounded a train of TNT, into some kind of mine, and fuck it, and we will confirm that it was a thermonuclear loaf yes , then, we’re nishtyakov for you, and so, there’s a little PUSHEK in the neighborhood.
      ps A loshka was bought, the service provided, it costs nothing.
      1. 34 region
        34 region 10 January 2016 14: 58
        +2
        Yeah! Who is threatening !? Assad is also threatening them! Around one enemy, one enemy! wassat
        1. Bayonet
          Bayonet 10 January 2016 15: 51
          0
          Quote: Region 34
          Yeah! Who is threatening !?

          Of course not! It's just such North Korean humor - they joke like that! smile
          1. Sergey S.
            Sergey S. 10 January 2016 20: 51
            +2
            Quote: Bayonet
            Quote: Region 34
            Yeah! Who is threatening !?

            Of course not! It's just such North Korean humor - they joke like that! smile

            North Koreans are not joking.
            Kym really threatens those who want to eliminate socialism in Korea.

            Formally, Kym is completely right.
            Reality confirms - those with nuclear weapons are not touched.

            And if it is also against communism, such as Pakistan or Israel, then any military strengthening is also encouraged ...

            Only the communist Milosevic is "not allowed"
            Arab Socialism in Iraq, Libya and Syria ...

            Now North Korea is remembered ...

            They are trying to introduce to Cuba from the backyard gangsters-householders ...
            Well, even Vietnam is still afraid ...
        2. voronbel53
          voronbel53 10 January 2016 16: 05
          +2
          Yes, and America is alone. Everyone shouts help, help, you have to help everyone, you have no time to think about yourself, you have to work hard even without days off and holidays ... laughing
          Quote: Region 34
          All around one enemy, one enemy
    2. Bayonet
      Bayonet 10 January 2016 15: 16
      +3
      Quote: LÄRZ
      Yes, and restrained Japanese probably hide contented smiles.

      I would see how you smile with such a neighbor ...
      The North Korean media wrote more than once - no city in Japan could simply resist the DPRK’s nuclear power. The articles said that cities such as Tokyo, Osaka, Kyoto and other major megacities will be completely wiped off the face of the Earth. The Koreans promise to turn the territory of the neighboring state into a continuous battlefield.
      1. 34 region
        34 region 10 January 2016 16: 02
        0
        The United States offers and implements such scenarios worldwide. And nothing! We are smiling! They are our partners! What kind of love do we have for this kind of partnership? Will we give everything to our beloved partners? And prays, prays at them ?!
  4. smoke break
    smoke break 10 January 2016 12: 53
    +5
    S..ki, from the West they overlaid, now they start from the East, they anchor them in the stern! ...
  5. Lanser
    Lanser 10 January 2016 12: 54
    +3
    Better thought of evacuating California and Oklahoma. The seismic situation there is unusually bad.
  6. awersa
    awersa 10 January 2016 12: 55
    +4
    The United States has long been dreaming of the potential of the Japanese to put themselves at the service, but here such a good excuse .... fortunate ...
    1. Dewa1s
      Dewa1s 11 January 2016 13: 47
      0
      When a senile explodes a hydrogen bomb in the right place at the right time, it’s not a fart. This nichrome is not fart.
      See who benefits.
  7. DobryAAH
    DobryAAH 10 January 2016 12: 57
    +2
    The main thing is, who will pay for this? Probably Japs? Then the states are a plus.
  8. dsi
    dsi 10 January 2016 12: 59
    +1
    The United States and Japan are preparing joint production of SM-2017 interceptor missiles since 3 under the pretext of protecting against North Korean ballistic missiles,

    Such technologies are not created so quickly. This is just a panic ...
    1. Sergey S.
      Sergey S. 10 January 2016 20: 54
      +2
      Quote: dsi
      The United States and Japan are preparing joint production of SM-2017 interceptor missiles since 3 under the pretext of protecting against North Korean ballistic missiles,

      Such technologies are not created so quickly. This is just a panic ...

      I agree.
      Well, it was necessary to do so in order to make the ABM program dependent on Japanese manufacturers ???

      More recently, staff members and could not think about it ...
  9. iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 10 January 2016 13: 02
    +2
    It remains only to breed with hands, the loot washer in its purest form. The main thing is that there is an insidious enemy behind the hill.
    "I am an American and I hate it when my country is called the dumbest country in the world! The dumbest country in the world is Europe." ...
  10. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 10 January 2016 13: 03
    +7
    Missiles are expensive and complex. To equip them all American
    Burke destroyers (62 in service, 76 planned), plus Japanese,
    plus NATO will require an immense number of missiles.
    Raiseon alone just can't handle the quantity. Therefore they scatter
    Orders from different plants in different countries.
    1. Amurets
      Amurets 10 January 2016 13: 12
      +4
      Quote: voyaka uh
      Raiseon alone just can't handle the quantity. Therefore they scatter
      Orders from different plants in different countries.

      I agree completely, and the Japanese have the opportunity to participate in these works, gain experience, if it comes to the airframe. Japan can produce the remaining components itself.
      1. Sergey S.
        Sergey S. 10 January 2016 20: 58
        0
        Quote: Amurets
        Quote: voyaka uh
        Raiseon alone just can't handle the quantity. Therefore they scatter
        Orders from different plants in different countries.

        I agree completely, and the Japanese have the opportunity to participate in these works, gain experience, if it comes to the airframe. Japan can produce the remaining components itself.

        Am.ra dream of giving back the production of unclassified (relatively unclassified) blocks ...
      2. cap
        cap 11 January 2016 02: 21
        0
        jeep mud
        Quote: Amurets
        Quote: voyaka uh
        Raiseon alone just can't handle the quantity. Therefore they scatter
        Orders from different plants in different countries.

        I agree completely, and the Japanese have the opportunity to participate in these works, gain experience, if it comes to the airframe. Japan can produce the remaining components itself.


        Japanese cars yes, better.

        But they are experiencing vseravnooo ... in Russia! laughing
    2. DobryAAH
      DobryAAH 10 January 2016 13: 14
      +1
      A man from the Russian Ministry of Defense said that all this is not effective against our missiles. So they saw the loot be healthy, now also Japanese.
      Let hrenachat, all this will become obsolete at one moment, they will begin to saw laser-ion weapons.
      1. Amurets
        Amurets 10 January 2016 13: 45
        +4
        Quote: Good AAAH
        A man from the Russian Ministry of Defense said that all this is not effective against our missiles.

        Let’s not listen to people, but think with our own heads. The Japanese are strong in developing new ones, including weapons. Only the treaties and the constitution of Japan forbade her to produce weapons in excess of the amount that was necessary for the Self-Defense Forces. Now Japan has begun to get out of these restrictions. And the fact that the Japanese in Soviet times practiced on bulldozers, timber trucks, construction equipment, the operation of equipment in a cold and harsh climate, this also means something. Representatives of the companies with which we worked did not only require photos graphs, but also components and parts destroyed in the cold. In many areas of our country in the 70s, foreigners were not allowed in. So the Japanese did not even hide that they were gaining experience in our conditions, and many transmission units were being worked out taking into account use on military equipment.
      2. Aleksey_K
        Aleksey_K 10 January 2016 15: 39
        +1
        Quote: Good AAAH
        A man from the Russian Ministry of Defense said that all this is not effective against our missiles. So they saw the loot be healthy, now also Japanese.
        Let hrenachat, all this will become obsolete at one moment, they will begin to saw laser-ion weapons.

        American SM-3 missiles can shoot down ballistic missiles. Therefore, both Korean and Chinese missiles are not afraid of the Americans. And against our ballistic missiles and maneuvering warheads, they will also develop new systems. Do not consider the enemy so stupid. We in Russia do not yet have missiles like the SM-3, which hit exactly the flying target. So they have their own problems, and we have our own.
    3. 34 region
      34 region 10 January 2016 15: 02
      0
      Or simply put, they are prepared in a hurry. So there is a plan. And it is adjusted towards acceleration. Obviously there is a definite plan. A gun will not just hang on the stage!
    4. Sergey S.
      Sergey S. 10 January 2016 20: 57
      0
      Quote: voyaka uh
      Missiles are expensive and complex. To equip them all American
      Burke destroyers (62 in service, 76 planned), plus Japanese,
      plus NATO will require an immense number of missiles.
      Raiseon alone just can't handle the quantity. Therefore they scatter
      Orders from different plants in different countries.

      Then why trifle ... immediately go to China.
      The Chinese will do it ... enough for the whole world ...

      By the way, I’m sure that it will be so if Ameri at least give something to someone = at least ... The documentation will be in China.
      1. cap
        cap 11 January 2016 02: 47
        0
        parade in Chinaparade in China
        Quote: Sergey S.

        Then why trifle ... immediately go to China.
        The Chinese will do it ... enough for the whole world ...

        By the way, I’m sure that it will be so if Ameri at least give something to someone = at least ... The documentation will be in China.


        I agree. "PANKSONIK" and "AIVU" have been riveting for 20 years and nothing.
        And at the parade, if you look closely familiar features laughing
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  11. lopvlad
    lopvlad 10 January 2016 13: 09
    +6
    under the pretext of protecting against North Korean ballistic missiles

    instead of the DPRK, they would have come up with another reason. In the USA, all plans and actions have long been spelled out for years to come. When they verbally betrayed Gorbachev and Co. they promised not to expand NATO, they already had a clear detailed plan for expansion.
    Russia has the same clear plan for many years to come.

    Having returned Crimea, Russia eliminated the main and unresolved danger of undermining its defense capabilities, and you can work with the rest of the problems.
  12. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 10 January 2016 13: 13
    +2
    Either against Iran, then against North Korea, then against Zimbabwe. Is truth lacking in spirit?
  13. ALEA IACTA EST
    ALEA IACTA EST 10 January 2016 13: 16
    +1
    The Japanese would not have felt invulnerable, otherwise they would brew such a mess.
  14. RuslanNN
    RuslanNN 10 January 2016 13: 20
    0
    The mattress workers were once supported by Japan - they received pearl harbol. It can be seen that rake dance is national fun not only among Ukrainians. The Japanese smile, nod, and what no one knows in their hearts. I don’t think they forgot Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
  15. Great-grandfather of Zeus
    Great-grandfather of Zeus 10 January 2016 13: 26
    +1
    And then they will say that there are few missiles, they need hundreds of South Koreans as well, at least, they won’t have a printing press there from overheating-stamping candy wrappers on the car per minute?
  16. Shiva83483
    Shiva83483 10 January 2016 13: 26
    0
    Quote: Ami du peuple
    Cooperation: from the Americans - a rocket, from the Japanese - a pilot kamikaze for her.

    You’re panicking such a tandem, and people who don’t remember history ... Abydna, yes !! ???
  17. sabakina
    sabakina 10 January 2016 13: 37
    +2
    Human people! Say the word "bank" quickly several times. What happened?... wink
  18. Yak-3P
    Yak-3P 10 January 2016 13: 39
    +1
    cm-3 can be equipped with a tactical vigorous head ...
    1. TOR2
      TOR2 10 January 2016 14: 19
      +2
      Weight warhead SM-3 can be only 70kg. Not enough for a vigorous warhead.
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 10 January 2016 16: 01
        +2
        For a low power warhead, normal.
  19. fa2998
    fa2998 10 January 2016 13: 45
    +2
    Quote: cniza
    The enemy is found

    In principle, you can understand the Japanese! North Korea will not launch rockets in the south, and the United States is far away. The first candidate is Japan. If the whole of world society (together with Russia) cannot affect the militarization of North Korea, ballistic missiles, nuclear and thermonuclear weapons, Japan can’t stand aside. And this is a defensive weapon, it’s good that the Japanese in return do not make ballistic weapons and atomic weapons (and the Japanese will succeed faster). yes hi
    1. Sergey S.
      Sergey S. 10 January 2016 21: 13
      +1
      Quote: fa2998
      In principle, you can understand the Japanese! North Korea will not launch rockets in the south, and the United States is far away. The first candidate is Japan. If the whole of world society (together with Russia) cannot affect the militarization of North Korea, ballistic missiles, nuclear and thermonuclear weapons, Japan can’t stand aside. And this is a defensive weapon, it’s good that the Japanese in return do not make ballistic weapons and atomic weapons (and the Japanese will succeed faster). yes hi

      The Japanese can be understood, but not necessary.
      These people killed so many people during World War II, including with weapons of mass destruction, that for ever and ever let them keep silent in a rag.
      Crimes against the humanity of the Japanese are akin only to the special experiences of SS doctors ... They killed many more people ... Mostly Chinese and Koreans.

      And even if the North Koreans tested their nuclear bomb in Japan, they would not have caught up with the Japanese on a scale of atrocities.

      Kym understands this, and is preparing to ensure that this does not happen again.
      Simple Koreans also know this - therefore they still suffer hardships for the sake of their own army.
      If the world powers realized on themselves what Japanese civilization is, then they would roll it on the asphalt ...
      And the Amerians, starting with revenge with two bombs, then decided to incite the Japs instead of themselves against the Communists ... At the same time, the myth of Japanese culture and the Japanese economic miracle was born.

      Unfortunately, North Korea is weak and for this reason is practically not an ally.
      But there is no reason to condemn the DPRK.

      It would be better to remind the Japanese. that we still do not have a peace treaty, and that we have claims to their aggressive military budget ...
      Least.
      And it is better to demand Yokohama and Hakodate for Russian military bases.
      And they think further what kind of missiles they will produce, and what they will demand from whom.
  20. Flat5160
    Flat5160 10 January 2016 13: 46
    +2
    Let them create what they want on missile defense, Putin made it clear that systems that bypass even promising missile defense systems are coming into service, not to mention the existing ones.
    1. Antanas
      Antanas 10 January 2016 19: 22
      +4
      Putin says a lot of things. Not so long ago, he very authoritatively stated that if the price of a barrel of oil falls below $ 80 per barrel, the global economy will collapse ...
  21. sabakina
    sabakina 10 January 2016 14: 06
    +2
    When I posted this clip on the WoT forum, when the SU-26 was nerfed, one of the comments was like this: “How pitiful she sings about the SU-26” ...
    Singing about interceptor missiles? drinks
  22. Sergey Vladimirovich
    Sergey Vladimirovich 10 January 2016 14: 06
    0
    With Japanese brains and potential, Americans can count on (and we, in turn, need to prepare for this ...) on a very serious product. And it’s time for the Japanese to begin to estimate stripes and stars next to the sun on the Japanese flag ... and to get ready to go without pants, good, they have warmth ...
  23. AIR-ZNAK
    AIR-ZNAK 10 January 2016 14: 11
    +3
    Kim zhrachka needs people and the army to feed, and instead of at least scanty reforms, maybe someone is engaged in blackmail and will feed for refusing to continue next year’s nuclear development
  24. TOR2
    TOR2 10 January 2016 14: 43
    +1
    We have already discussed "Aegis" more than once. An information system can be destroyed by destroying its information field. One of the interesting topics presented in the open press is the creation of an artificial electromagnetic storm in which "Aegis" will not be able to function normally.
    https://youtu.be/F6KB2QT5NNI?t=956
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet 10 January 2016 15: 30
      +5
      Quote: TOR2
      creating an artificial electromagnetic storm in which "Aegis" will not be able to function normally.

      Well, first of all, this is the opinion of another "expert" from REN TV smile secondly, if such a global artificial super electromagnetic storm is created, not only the enemy's missile defense system, but also our systems will not work! The "expert" didn't think about this. wink
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 10 January 2016 16: 09
        +1
        And how we will create a super electromagnetic storm, this "expert" - the science fiction writer also did not say - planes will not fall from it, but we can lose contact with satellites, and missile defense and radars, and even more so missiles, will not suffer from this storm , since electromagnetic storms are possible only at the height of the ionosphere.
        1. Bayonet
          Bayonet 10 January 2016 17: 51
          +3
          Quote: Vadim237
          And how will we create a super electromagnetic storm this "expert"

          Follow the link, I laughed heartily - "the rocket enters the Earth's magnetic field smile It enters some kind of tube, releases plasma into it (???), there is some kind of "rash" (what?) And in the end - a kirdyk of the American missile defense system! Everything is so simple and accessible language. The people should naturally be in a patriotic shock - WELL, WE ARE HOW-AND-E-E !!!!!!laughing
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 10 January 2016 18: 43
            +1
            Indeed, RENTv is the first mystical, with similar "experts"
          2. TOR2
            TOR2 10 January 2016 19: 18
            +1
            Let's take a closer look.
            The Earth’s magnetic attraction, as it were, sucks in the charged particles flying past it that the solar wind carries. These attracted particles move in the form of long "rays" along the lines of force of the magnetic field that go underground in the region of the magnetic poles. These poles are located near the North and South poles of the Earth, although they do not coincide with them. Particles flying along invisible lines of force, as it were, are pulled into the atmosphere near the poles and we observe the northern lights.
            Inside this "beam" or "pipe", as Ostretsov put it, our warhead must go and work. The charged particles mentioned above seem to be kicked out of this beam where we need it. And then it all begins. smile
            And moreover, the "scandal" will occur where you ordered it. Local weather deterioration will be a separate bonus.
            Quote: Vadim237
            but we can lose contact with satellites
            In this case, communication will not be lost by us, and the weather over the Russian Federation will be natural, but the carriers of "Aegis" will not be up to the beauty of the northern lights.
            1. Vadim237
              Vadim237 10 January 2016 21: 10
              +1
              In general, communication with satellites also disappears during ordinary magnetic storms, and you are talking about a powerful storm. "The charged particles, which were mentioned above, seem to be kicked out of this beam where we need it" - here I do not understand anything at all, charged particles - particles of what? The deterioration of the weather from the release, it is not clear why, into the ionosphere is strong, even if all this is nonsense, somehow it will work out incredibly - it will not disable the Aegis missile defense system, since target tracking is carried out not only by radars on ships, but also from air points AWACS, ground radars and space satellites, including in the infrared range - the system is duplicated.
              1. TOR2
                TOR2 10 January 2016 21: 44
                +1
                Quote: Vadim237
                here I didn’t understand anything at all, charged particles - particles of what?

                The sun is a hot gas ball made up of hydrogen and helium atoms. At the core of these atoms are particles called protons. Around the protons, other particles rotate. They are called electrons. Protons carry a single positive charge, electrons - a negative. A cloud over the hot gas enveloping the Sun (solar corona) constantly throws particles and fragments of atoms into space in all directions. These pieces fly in space at a speed of 960 kilometers per second. Such streams are called the solar wind. Sometimes the corona literally explodes in a swirl of particles, adding new hot portions to the solar wind. When the solar wind reaches the Earth, its particles fall into its magnetic field.
                Studies of auroral phenomena (aurora borealis) using radar showed that radio waves with frequencies from 10 to 100 MHz under certain conditions are reflected by ionization regions that arise in high atmospheric layers under the influence of auroras.
                1. Vadim237
                  Vadim237 11 January 2016 00: 32
                  +1
                  I know this - I just cannot understand what energy this expert was going to create the most powerful magnetic storm on earth, and what material? these particles, which this "expert" was going to stuff the rocket and pour into the ionosphere, or he was going to fill the rocket with the solar wind.
                  1. TOR2
                    TOR2 11 January 2016 11: 29
                    +1
                    A missile warhead will have to create a plasma formation that will throw particles of the solar wind on them and cause a magnetic disturbance. Of course it looks strange from the side, there are ships, planes, missiles, and here are some particles of the solar wind. According to the stories of polar explorers who fell into the natural epicenter, the compass needle begins to rotate first in one direction, then stops abruptly and starts to rotate in the other. Devices (and analog ones) generally show some kind of nonsense.
                    Mattresses at one time cut through the topic. With the help of HARP, they tried to counteract this phenomenon, but in the end they only strengthened it, which greatly disappointed them.
  25. DobryAAH
    DobryAAH 10 January 2016 15: 58
    0
    Yes, here's another thing about missile defense.
    http://alex-anpilogov.livejournal.com/105359.html
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 10 January 2016 17: 55
      0
      Control systems and guidance, as well as propellant for rocket engines are improving - so that all problems for the SM 3 rocket will be solved in the future - progress does not stand still and the mass of a 15-ton anti-missile is very acceptable.
  26. valokordin
    valokordin 10 January 2016 16: 18
    +1
    Soon, the joint Japanese-Ukrainian production of Stepan Bandera's anti-Russian fetid stinking missile launchers will begin.
  27. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 10 January 2016 17: 22
    +4
    It turns out funny: the United States tested nuclear weapons on Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and now it’s not a spill of water! But Japan is with us all at war, without a peace treaty. It turns out that in order to sign it, what?
    1. Antanas
      Antanas 10 January 2016 19: 26
      +1
      Can’t you guess? :)))
  28. Ros 56
    Ros 56 10 January 2016 17: 43
    +2
    Quote: Amurets
    The slightest deviation from size or shape and the part flies into scrap metal. It is useless to prove anything


    Apparently you just never did anything exact. On this occasion, talk to modelers, it does not matter (air, ship, car or rocket.), Well, of course not the level of beginners. And men are not lower than the CCM, the MC of the level of members of the national team of the Russian Federation.
    When you make an internal combustion engine, the tolerances are hundred and even micron, if you know what I mean, but making a turbojet engine is even for me from the realm of fantasy.
    I tried to insert a link, but nothing. If you are interested, just in the search engine type "replica aircraft with turbojet engine" By the way, the price of the model is 15-25 thousand greens, not purchased, homemade. Our Russian became the World Champion with the Yak 130 model.
  29. alone
    alone 10 January 2016 18: 26
    0
    Quite expected result. Will there still be.
  30. Former battalion commander
    Former battalion commander 10 January 2016 22: 52
    0
    Japs in their repertoire! They BELIEVE THE US WILL BE ABLE TO PROTECT THEM AGAINST DPRK NUCLEAR WEAPONS! And they don’t understand that psi is profitable for the DPRK to gouge both Japan and South Korea (competitors of Samsung, Toyota, etc.). And now there is "hilling" both the Japs and South Koreans in terms of "we will protect you." Believing in this, they will begin to become impudent and run into trouble, which is what the United States needs! Why does the USA need this? And then, that both the Japs and Koreans are the MAIN creditors of the p.i.d.d.s.i. and when they get out of hand, then on the sly their "reserves" can be written off (why the dead money?), And their companies (direct competitors to the American) will disappear.
  31. Thunderbolt
    Thunderbolt 11 January 2016 00: 46
    -1
    The system of kinetic interception developed by the Americans does not provide 100% protection against Russian ICBMs and SLBMs; however, if the enemy begins to equip their anti-missiles with (thermo) nuclear low-power warheads with an increased neutron yield, the efficiency of the American missile defense system will greatly improve.
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