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Baltic atomic throwing

The Western “democratic fraternity” is turning into a unique association that introduces or is about to impose sanctions even against what is not. Rave? Perhaps ... But not for those states which, while trading in their national interests, are ready to appease the "main" partner with all their strength and capabilities. One of the latest attempts to please is the appeal of the leadership of the Republic of Lithuania to its neighbors with a call to abandon the acquisition of "dirty" energy from the Baltic and Belarusian nuclear power plants.

The piquancy of the situation lies in the fact that neither the Belarusian nor the Baltic NPP produce electricity for the simple reason that there are no stations themselves. According to the original plan, the construction of the first power unit of BaltNPP in the Nemansky district of the Kaliningrad region should be completed in 2017, and the first power unit of the Belarusian (Ostrovets) nuclear power plant should produce the first energy a year later.

Lithuanian authorities stated that Estonia and Latvia should have considered issues of refusing to buy electricity from the BNPP and BaltAES for the future, since the energy of Russia and Belarus will be extremely “dirty”, and this “does not meet the rules and regulations of the European Union.” In addition, official Vilnius states that Russia and Belarus are going to take advantage of "unfair competition conditions" and "seize part of the energy market in Eastern Europe."

What kind of “unfair competition” are we talking about? Speaking about the fact that a number of EU countries, including the “three sisters” from the Baltic States, some time ago expressed their readiness to abandon the operation of nuclear power plants, adding that these generating facilities are harmful to the environment and do not comply with “green” European principles. . Well, if they do not comply, we can build nuclear power plants on our territory and sell the missing megawatts of electricity to Eastern Europe, they decided in the Union State of Russia and Belarus.

In Lithuania, it was realized that after stopping the Ignalina NPP, which supplied the Baltics with electricity, put into operation by the Soviet “occupiers” in 1983, sooner and later it would be necessary to buy electricity from its eastern neighbors. At the same time, they clearly recalled in Vilnius that the European partners "strongly asked" to stop the work of the Ignalina nuclear power plant — they allocated about € 380 million euros for closing. More than two thousand Lithuanian citizens eventually lost their jobs, and the power grid lost 1500 MW of electricity.

Baltic atomic throwing

In order not to be the only ones, I'm sorry, suckers, the Lithuanians now want to enlist the support of Estonia and Latvia. They say, since we have conserved the power plant at the behest of Brussels, then let's at least say together that we will not buy electricity from Russians and Belarusians - like “we will impose sanctions” ...

Lithuanian Energy Minister Rokas Masiulis went to meet with the Estonian ministers and after the meeting announced the achievement of consensus on this issue. Masiulisa quotes BNS:
In this case, our opinions are completely the same. (Estonian Minister) Michal agrees that solutions must be found on how to limit the entry of “dirty” atomic energy into the member states of the European Union (EU). We agreed that our specialists should start work right now and look for options.

In a couple of weeks, a meeting of the so-called Baltic Council of Ministers will be held, where they will convince official Riga to announce in advance about the refusal to purchase energy from future nuclear power units in Belarus and the Kaliningrad region.

We will ask that this issue be put on the agenda in Latvia - the specialists and officials of the three countries will begin to consider the issue.

The question of where the “liberated from the hated Soviet occupation” Balts are going to take electricity automatically arose automatically if the Ignalina nuclear power plant was conserved, like many European nuclear power plants? The answer to this question can be the statement of the same Rokas Masiulis, who said that Vilnius, Riga and Tallinn are ready to discuss the construction of a nuclear power plant on Lithuanian territory. We are talking about the Visaginas nuclear power plant, which was originally planned for construction with the participation of both Lithuania and Latvia and Poland. Waited for the arrival of Japanese investors.

The initial plans were dated 2009, then the accident at Fukushima happened, and Japanese investors became, to put it mildly, tense ... Then all those companies that, as they say, started for health, refused to invest in the project ... Apparently, at least to save face, the Lithuanian authorities decided to hold a referendum on the expediency or inexpediency of building a nuclear power plant.

A referendum on all the laws of the new Lithuanian democracy showed the result that Brussels wanted: 65% of citizens opposed the construction. The face was saved ... But with a saved face, you also need somewhere to take energy ... As a way out - to buy either from Russia or from Belarus. But this is the real Baltic "Zrada", and therefore Dahl is tearing ... nerves to convince partners that we should forget about the results of the 2012 referendum of the year (or announce a new referendum with new results) and start building the Visyaginskaya NPP with attracting foreign capital . Moreover, the United States is, as it were, FOR, as the Lithuanian nuclear power plant (if it is built) will use technologies and equipment of American companies - in particular, Westinghouse.

At the moment, the construction of the Baltic NPP is suspended until it is ascertained how the situation will develop with the nuclear energy market in the same Baltic region. At this moment, Lithuania is trying to compensate for the shortage of electricity, including with the help of the 450-kilometer connection of power lines with Sweden, which supplied voltage to the converter in Klaipeda. The system is still in test mode. For Sweden, the “emotional throwing” of the Baltics is a gift of fate, because if the Visaginas NPP remains in the plans, plus there will be no electricity purchases from the territory of Belarus and the Kaliningrad region, the Swedish energy export will grow by about 70%! The purchase of electricity from Sweden will cost the Balts approximately 40% more expensive than purchases from its eastern neighbors. But do the additional expenses from the budget of someone in the Baltic political panopticon worry us when it comes to another attempt to bite Russia or at least yelp eastwards ...
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  1. Nagaibak
    Nagaibak 11 January 2016 06: 55 New
    " Лицо было спасено… Но со спасённым лицом тоже нужно где-то брать энергию… Как выход – закупать либо у России, либо у Белоруссии."

    Regarding the Baltic face ...))))) Inspired.))))

    "Ой, где был я вчера - не найду днем с огнем,
    I only remember that the walls with wallpaper ...
    And the face remained, and the beatings on it.
    Ну куда теперь выйти с побоями?"
    1. vlad66
      vlad66 11 January 2016 07: 06 New
      Vilnius, Riga and Tallinn

      And who needs them? On the border with these hooks you need to hang up signs.
      1. Tatyana
        Tatyana 11 January 2016 07: 14 New
        From the text of the article
        Swedish energy exports will grow by about 70%! The purchase of electricity from Sweden will cost the Baltic states about 40% more expensive

        In general, the Balts in spite of Russia with self-supply with electricity have blown themselves! fool
        Original however! laughing
        1. vladimir_krm
          vladimir_krm 11 January 2016 12: 29 New
          Well this is pure European energy as a tear! You would have to pay even more for it! laughing
      2. DanSabaka
        DanSabaka 11 January 2016 10: 30 New
      3. Chak
        Chak 11 January 2016 22: 16 New
        Quote: vlad66
        Vilnius, Riga and Tallinn

        And who needs them? On the border with these hooks you need to hang up signs.

        There is nothing for our President to talk about with bl @ d @ mi. The name of the sprat corresponds to her first profession.
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    3. vodolaz
      vodolaz 11 January 2016 09: 06 New
      The Baltic states are simply annealed: they buy liquefied natural gas from Norway at an expensive price, electricity from Sweden is also not cheap at all. Well good luck to them.
      1. Poppy
        Poppy 11 January 2016 09: 26 New
        so they have most of the budget handouts from the EEC, they themselves can not decide anything - a banal colony
        1. Zefr
          Zefr 11 January 2016 23: 55 New
          That is, Europe gives them a loan, they in Europe buy electricity for this money, giving money to European companies for it, and the plus is still owed to the same Europe a loan with interest?
      2. Gomunkul
        Gomunkul 11 January 2016 12: 55 New
        The Baltic states are simply annealed: they buy liquefied natural gas from Norway at an expensive price, electricity from Sweden is also not cheap at all.
        The rich have their own quirks. laughing
    4. crambol
      crambol 11 January 2016 16: 00 New
      Sitting cute on the porch
      With an expression on his face.
      Expresses that face
      Than sit on the porch.
    5. marlin1203
      marlin1203 11 January 2016 16: 30 New
      А какая разница? Так и так "зрада".. либо покупать русскую "грязную " электоэнергию, либо русские же "гряные" ТВЭЛЫ на Игналинскаую АЭС. laughing Так что, остается "биореактор"...только "биореактор"...
      1. goose
        goose 11 January 2016 17: 45 New
        Они "личности не полностью раскрывшие свой потенциал", атомная энергия признана экспертами самой чистой, по сравнению и с ветряками, солнечными батареями и с ГЭС, если сравнивать экологический след. Причем даже если ориентироваться на технологии 70-х годов, а с тех пор атомная энергетика шагнула далеко вперед, и получила работающие реакторы на быстрых нейтронах. Но... они есть только в России, Евросоюз по науке не настолько продвинут.
  2. PSih2097
    PSih2097 11 January 2016 06: 58 New
    Поведение прибалтики напоминает поведение украины из серии "назло маме отморожу уши и заработаю гайморит, но шапку не одену" fool
    1. meriem1
      meriem1 11 January 2016 07: 24 New
      Quote: PSih2097
      Поведение прибалтики напоминает поведение украины из серии "назло маме отморожу уши и заработаю гайморит, но шапку не одену" fool

      No wonder! The virus is the same!
  3. deputy ___ watered
    deputy ___ watered 11 January 2016 06: 59 New
    The classic version of the victory of ideology over reason! Our Baltic neighbors did not come up with anything new, how to separate from Russia. Now energetically!
    1. Amurets
      Amurets 11 January 2016 08: 16 New
      Quote: deputy ___ watered
      The classic version of the victory of ideology over reason!

      Remember the congresses of people's deputies of the USSR and the parade of sovereignty. In 1988-1989, the Baltic states hoped that politically leaving the USSR, the Baltic states could economically remain in the USSR, and plans were such that they would receive raw materials and energy sources at Soviet prices from the USSR to sell finished goods inside the USSR at world prices and for a convertible currency. This plan failed and the Balts had to leave the USSR in 1990 without brashing. From this the collapse of the Baltic economy began. And now the elbow is close, but you can’t bite.
      1. Zefr
        Zefr 12 January 2016 00: 02 New
        Well, they are still welded well. It was impossible to ban the supply of strategic raw materials to the Baltic states, including non-ferrous scrap, which was forbidden to be sold abroad. And the Balts imported and sold it! And they had nothing for it.
  4. 33 Watcher
    33 Watcher 11 January 2016 07: 10 New
    Quote: PSih2097
    Поведение прибалтики напоминает поведение украины из серии "назло маме отморожу уши и заработаю гайморит, но шапку не одену" fool

    It seems to me that this is not Baltic behavior. A normal trade war. The economic deterrence that we were promised (you know who). In fact, I think it's even good that they fussed in advance. Just by the time construction is completed, it will already be clear how many power units are needed, whether this energy is needed in the EU or not, and what capacity the NPP should be, exclusively for domestic needs or with export potential.
  5. Support
    Support 11 January 2016 07: 41 New
    Yes, HRP for this stinking gofenoy geyropu in all its manifestations. How did she get this geyropa. Whatever the 50-year period, it always eats what feces from that side fly. If they are perverts and mozahists- nafig them. Let them dig their own ...... We pay attention to them - and it’s a bitch to them, how did they hear their squeak. Where is the rubber bomb? When will it be made and accidentally dropped on this Pot of Eurasia?
  6. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 11 January 2016 07: 43 New
    In order not to be the only ones, I'm sorry suckers, Lithuanians now want to gain support from Estonia and Latvia.

    По моему автор сделал очень удачный вывод из сложившейся ситуации и сформулировал внутреннее состояние руководства Литвы. Ну и плюс к этому желание Литвы еще раз "ущипнуть" Россию.
  7. Same lech
    Same lech 11 January 2016 07: 47 New
    energy in Russia and Belarus will be exclusively "dirty", and this "does not meet the norms and rules of the European Union

    I really didn’t think that electric current could be dirty.

    Although if you fall under 6kV or 200 kV ... you’ll become like a firebrand ... the Balts will soon agree to complete nonsense that the air they breathe in RUSSIA does not meet the standards of the EUROPEAN UNION ... stamped on the head.
    1. igordok
      igordok 11 January 2016 09: 07 New
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      I really didn’t think that electric current could be dirty.

      Интересно, как собираются определять "грязный", "атомный" электрон от "чистого", "теплового" или "гидравлического" электрона.
      1. goose
        goose 12 January 2016 09: 26 New
        Quote: igordok
        Интересно, как собираются определять "грязный", "атомный" электрон от "чистого", "теплового" или "гидравлического" электрона.

        And why then in Lithuania then created the institute of racial purity?
    2. Alf
      Alf 11 January 2016 21: 27 New
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      the balts will soon agree to complete nonsense that the air they breathe in RUSSIA does not comply with the norms of the EUROPEAN UNION ... stamped on the head.

      Why prompt such a great idea? Even in the European court they will sue for the fact that from the side of Russia an unusual wind blows.
  8. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 11 January 2016 07: 49 New
    And Vaska listens, but eats. I mean, they refuse in advance, and we are building. It is generally necessary to build in Kaliningrad, otherwise some forest brothers will undermine the power lines from Russia and leave the whole Kaliningrad region without light. Crimea already taught. And what about Poland with energy? Proud Poles will also not buy cheap kilowatts?
    1. alstr
      alstr 11 January 2016 10: 37 New
      By the way, in this regard, it is possible to make electromobilization in the Kaliningrad region.
      Excess electricity will be (and cheap). Transfer all vehicles to electricity to the maximum, and gas consumption can be reduced.
      THERE will not be surplus electricity.
      1. DEfindER
        DEfindER 11 January 2016 12: 54 New
        Quote: alstr
        Excess electricity will be (and cheap). Transfer all vehicles to electricity to the maximum, and gas consumption can be reduced.

        I am afraid that they wanted to build the Baltic nuclear power plant primarily for the sale of energy to the Baltic states or to the EU. If they don’t buy, then they won’t pay off, and the Kaliningrad region alone is not enough for her, so they froze the construction site to find out, all the more now there is no extra money. Although if you build in parallel some kind of plant that will produce something you need, it can pay off, but it is better to build such a bunch not in Kaliningrad, but somewhere in the center of the country, just in case ..
      2. TiRex
        TiRex 11 January 2016 15: 45 New
        not so cheap ...
  9. aszzz888
    aszzz888 11 January 2016 08: 16 New
    The leadership of Lithuania stated that Estonia and Latvia should consider the issue of refusing to purchase electricity from the Belarusian NPP and BaltAES for the future,

    Baltic shavkotnia in his role. Smelly, shabby, sick with a plague. And from the plague one outcome - die. laughing
  10. faridg7
    faridg7 11 January 2016 08: 29 New
    Well, the stations will be built, then we’ll see who and how salivatingly flow, and the price can be set already on the basis of the price of the Swedes, they refused the cheap energy, get what you wanted.
  11. AID.S
    AID.S 11 January 2016 09: 57 New
    Quote: Mountain Shooter
    . It’s necessary to build in Kaliningrad, otherwise some forest brothers will undermine the power lines from Russia,

    BaltAES was originally built for export. There is no domestic need for it. Therefore, it was mothballed.
    This is another example of the fact that our government did not have a development strategy for Russia, and most likely it doesn’t. There is no way out of the curve.
  12. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 11 January 2016 10: 02 New
    Tip sprats. If you have already chosen the role of European ladies of easy virtue, then you really have to comply. If rape cannot be avoided, then relax and enjoy.
  13. Belousov
    Belousov 11 January 2016 10: 53 New
    Я смотрю прибалты решили отобрать у Руины звание самых ... "неадекватных" (назовем это цензурно) долбоящеров. По мне так это заявление аналогично что раз Калибры летят на высоте 25 метров надо Стену на границе с Россией построить на уровне 26 метров.
  14. V.ic
    V.ic 11 January 2016 11: 07 New
    to somehow save faceLithuanian authorities decided

    And it looks like that face ... what sit on the porch.
  15. v.yegorov
    v.yegorov 11 January 2016 11: 11 New
    Yes, those who live in the Baltics do not laugh in the circus. Theater of the absurd, robust
    meaning is resting.
  16. Aitvaras
    Aitvaras 11 January 2016 12: 04 New
    It’s a very sad article, in fact, it’s not so bad. Naturally, Lithuania’s decision not to buy energy from these nuclear power plants under construction, since they are not safe (no one wants to repeat the Chernobyl tragedy), doesn’t affect their construction, but here’s a ban on the purchase of energy The European Union, at the request of Lithuania, this will already be serious. Therefore, the European Union provided Belarus with 12-point safety requirements for nuclear power plants. They are being examined there right now.
    Despite the statements of our minister, in Lithuania there are many power engineers who seriously consider the interaction of our hydro-accumulation station in Kruonis with the future Belarusian nuclear power plant. As world experience shows, this is very profitable. This station, under the USSR, was built to work in conjunction with the Ignalina nuclear power plant.
    1. Kostya Andreev
      Kostya Andreev 11 January 2016 21: 56 New
      Power engineers can consider a lot of things, they do not decide, and not in the Baltic states. (No offense).
    2. goose
      goose 12 January 2016 09: 29 New
      Quote: Aitvaras
      no one wants a repetition of the Chernobyl tragedy

      At least someone read a report on the causes of the Chernobyl accident ??? !!!
      Где там фигурирует конструкция АЭС или энергоблоков??? Эта авария - пример человеческого фактора, а моральные "особи с отклонениями морали" могут взорвать любую АЭС.
  17. fa2998
    fa2998 11 January 2016 12: 21 New
    Ну если вы такие"правильные и зеленые",может лучше протестовать против несуществующих объектов,а обратите на своих"братьев" по ЕС.Например Франция-получает"грязную" атомную энергию до 80 %,и экспортирует в Италию,Великобританию и пр.страны.Бойкот Франции!!Или "слабо",или за это не заплатили! laughing hi
    1. goose
      goose 12 January 2016 09: 31 New
      It's simple: at the end of the 90s, France was the only country in Europe where its own full-fledged science remained, respectively, decisions were made based on the opinion of scientists, not populists.
  18. izya top
    izya top 11 January 2016 13: 57 New
    in the Baltic tigers, along with the ears, the whole head is frostbitten
  19. 4ekist
    4ekist 11 January 2016 14: 00 New
    Yes, why not build the Visagin NPP in Lithuania and do not rack your brains. After all, there is the European Union and it will provide all the necessary and even wise leadership of the country. So a simple Lithuanian man in the street can calmly sit on the couch with a cup of strong coffee and hope for the best.
  20. Leader
    Leader 11 January 2016 14: 11 New
    Пора ставить железный занавес на границе с Европой... Всех, кто хочет уехать "на Запад" - выпускать безвопросно; оттуда - никого не впускать. Зачем они нам?
    I do not need this Europe. I’ll live on my environmentally friendly potatoes with natural meat from a farmer’s neighbor.
    И совершенно обойдусь без толерантных поучений и технических "новинок" современного общества потребления.
  21. Fei_Wong
    Fei_Wong 11 January 2016 17: 11 New
    Есть одна подходящая поговорка: сам не "ам", и другим не дам.
  22. VB
    VB 11 January 2016 18: 29 New
    Эти свободные европейцы уже достукались до анекдотов:"Кто последним будет валить из этой страны - выключите свет в аэропорту" и "Продаётся страна с видом на море". А туда-же, лакеи, лишь-бы укусить бывшего хозяина- рабское, на самом деле, поведение, да и психология. На окраине, впрочем, один в один. Хоть и писали когда-то в прописях "рабы не мы, мы не рабы". Рабы вы, рабы...
    1. Zefr
      Zefr 12 January 2016 00: 13 New
      Уже 25 лет не писали в букварях "рабы не мы", ну вот, что выросло, то выросло.
  23. VSkilled
    VSkilled 11 January 2016 18: 49 New
    And, I feel sorry for the simple Balts. After all, it is for them to pay for the absolute corruption of their politicians.

    И только не надо говорить, что простые люди этих уродов "сами выбрали". Технология оболванивая избирателей столь изощрённая, а деньги, вливаемые в избирательную компанию, "из-за океана" - столь велики, что исход любых "демократичных выборов" на Западе - абсолютно предрешён.

    Hard workers - will always be fools, as in that joke:

    Ivan the hard worker wanted to drink. Ah, the ruble is not enough. Ivan the hard worker went to his neighbor Abram:

    - Borrow, Abram, the ruble - to pay.
    “I, nevertheless, will lend, if you give, then two.”
    - I agree.
    - And the drill is a guarantee.
    - I agree. (Brings a drill).

    Abram - takes the drill:

    - Look, Ivan: I’m giving you the ruble, but you’ll drink it now, therefore, I won’t give you the ruble, but you will not owe me two rubles, but only one. Go in peace.

    Иван-работяга стоит на лестничной площадке и - "чешет репу":

    - Ruble - no. Drills - no. Also, the ruble - should remain! And, after all, it seems - everything is correct ...
  24. Korsar4
    Korsar4 11 January 2016 20: 08 New
    Nanny to Sweden. Energy back.

    No matter how hard you try, you will not find yourself geographically near Berlin and Paris.

    How much resources the European Union has invested in the Baltic states, but it is depopulating everything.
  25. Igor V
    Igor V 11 January 2016 21: 04 New
    In the Kaliningrad region, traditionally, questions are not completely resolved. At one time we were fed from Ignalina, now from our sources, but the network remained old, and our energy goes to Lithuania, and then comes back. Dibilism, but they did not give money to redo everything. Now, after the Crimea, they promised to give. But you need big investments. You will laugh, but most of the area is powered by 15kV German pre-war substations. It was not possible to change them, since there was no such standard and such transformers were not produced. We must pay tribute to the Kaliningrad electricians, who have maintained these substations in working condition for 70 years. As for the generation, the electric eggs we have in one basket. With a technological failure at the main CHPP-2, without creep, 80% of the region remained. To avoid this, the BNPP was built. And the closure of Ignalina was a prerequisite for Lithuania's accession to the EU.
  26. midivan
    midivan 11 January 2016 23: 34 New
    The leadership of Lithuania said that Estonia and Latvia should consider refusing to buy electricity from the Belarusian nuclear power plant and the Baltic nuclear power plant for the future, since the energy from Russia and Belarus will be exclusively "dirty", and this "does not meet the norms and rules of the European Union."
    and negotiating with country 404 for the supply of exceptionally clean kieseks bully