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Libre fighting game (2 part)

In the second part of the material about the school of American knife fighting, we learn about the psychological manipulation of the enemy, the rules of knife sparring, mental preparation and preliminary testing of students, which is undoubtedly useful in teaching such a dangerous form as knife fighting. By the way, how often do we hear about preliminary interviews in sections of the National Library? As we learned in the first part, Scott Babb tries to train law enforcement officers, for whom the knife is weapon last chance in case of failure of regular firearms.

In general, the concept of the “Battle Questionnaire” cycle has been changed and now also includes various international areas of martial arts, hand-to-hand combat and self-defense, not necessarily present in Russia and the CIS countries. The purpose of the cycle is to familiarize the reader with the full range of combat directions of the world, both traditional and modern, which is often impossible due to the language barrier. Now this issue is resolved.

Applying stressful techniques in a Libre Fighting Seminar
12. Work against weapons / with weapons
- We have a Street Boxing course and a second course on unarmed work called the Atra Manus, which includes elements of Jujutsu, Kinamutai (a special subdivision of some Filipino BIs with an emphasis on bites, stinging, squeezing eyes and other “dirty” combat vehicles - approx. M.Didenko), and streetfighting.
13. Work on the ground (in the stalls)
“Atra Manus includes some fighting practices on earth, but this is not what we specialize in.”
14. Work in non-standard conditions, from non-standard opponents (in water, in darkness, confined space, from a dog, etc.)
“We're doing 30-40 training percent in low light, since the attack is likely to occur after dark.” We also focus on fighting in tight spaces, and in the early stages of developing this course, we studied videos of knife attacks in prisons.
15. Psychological training
“Before I take a student to class, I check him to make sure that he is all right and in good spirits and mentality, and if I feel somewhere that he may be somehow unstable, I will remove him from classes. Knife fighting attracts many strange types, so it is important to be prudent. We do not do any energy work, or anything that affects metaphysics. Some of our people use anting-anting (in the culture of the peoples of the Malay Archipelago, a magical amulet or talisman that gives the owner wonderful opportunities (superpower, saving lives, protection from hazards, invisibility, etc.). Usually in the form of a neck pendant, but may be in other forms, for example, in the form of a magic inscription on clothes - approx. M.Didenko), and other spiritual elements, but it is a personal expression, not part of the system.
16. Other effects from occupations (improving, developing and etc.)
“If I did my job correctly, then the last thing my student might want is to take someone’s life.” We are making great efforts to show students the horrors of a real knife fight. Passing the training, a person understands how fragile the human body is and how easy it is to destroy it. This understanding teaches people to value the sacredness of life in a new way.
17. Unique features of the direction (style, school)
“At higher levels, we include an element called puppets.” This is a psychological manipulation of the enemy. This is the ability to get into the head of the enemy and make him react as you need.
18. Application in life (a case of self-defense, when the student was able to protect himself in this direction).
“We train a lot of military and law enforcement officers in Mexico, and because of the extreme level of violence south of the border, we get good feedback. In a sense, Mexico has become a testing ground for the Libre. At the last count, Libre was used in real combat more than thirty times, most recently earlier this month. Most of the incidents involved military and law enforcement officials in Mexico, but there were a few civilian cases. Some of the incidents did not last long and the level of violence was low. Others have been fatal. As a founder, I am sad that in my creation the counting of the dead is also open. Each of these incidents teaches us something and even better fuses the system. This may sound strange, but such cases strengthen the system.

Additional questions:

19. What does Libre Fighting mean?
- "Libre" means "free." Initially, I called my classes the Free Military Academy, because I wanted to have a platform free from politics, associations, traditions and everything else that could slow down our progress as fighters. I did not come up with a name for the system we were creating, while I didn’t think of it as a system at all. When people asked for a name, I simply called it "my approach." Because of the name of the course, people began to call what we do Libre fighting, well, and I put up with it.

20. How do you spar? What are the rules?
- We use sparring knives that we make ourselves from foam tubes. They allow us to fight in contact and at full speed with a low risk of injury. We also wear glasses to protect our eyes. The rules depend on the duration of the round, which I regulate, the level of experience of the fighters and the skills on which I want them to focus in a particular training bout. The longer the round, the more restrictions, as the technique and control worsen with increasing fatigue, which contributes to the appearance of injuries. I want every student to face all other students in training, with one opponent at a time, in 20-tisecond rounds.

This causes them to constantly adapt to different opponents, and much faster than if they studied opponents within a few minutes. It makes them think fast and act on instincts.

21. How do you psychologically prepare people to use the knife in a real situation? After all, you need to cross the threshold. And how do you work with the fear of knives?
- With regard to the preparation of someone to use the knife, then one of the things that we are constantly trying to create is high-level stress, unprogrammed situations in which the student throws a knife on instinct. But the best way to feel the feeling of sticking a knife into someone we’ve found is to use a hanging pig carcass. You can feel how easily the blade passes through the flesh, to see what types of wounds forms a knife, to feel the smell coming out of the carcass.

22. Give an example of "puppets"
- A very simple example of "puppets" is a feint with a blade, then a low kick with the foot to the opponent's patella. This will force the opponent to think simultaneously about the knife and kicks. Then again a trick, and while the opponent is focused on the blade and kicks, give him a slap in the left hand. And now, while the enemy is thinking about indirect attacks that follow the feints, you start a simple, direct attack with a knife. It's just a matter of neutralizing the enemy, the ability to get into his head.

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  1. Riv
    Riv 13 January 2016 08: 22 New
    I have already said that this "school" boils down to instilling two principles in students: "Hit first" and "Do not be afraid of the enemy." No serious technique is provided. As a consequence: a real fight between two students of the school is a guaranteed mutual suicide.
    This is what is called "kanka".
    1. Megatron
      Megatron 13 January 2016 09: 41 New
      Honestly, if the first part of the article seemed to me uninformative, then the second is not at all clear why it was written, some other "puppetry". In short, except for the word - crap, I can not characterize it in any way.
      1. Riv
        Riv 13 January 2016 10: 28 New
        Well yes. "Kanka" is in Sanskrit and means "wrong, gross, false". In Russian: crap.
    2. Mikhail3
      Mikhail3 13 January 2016 11: 55 New
      In the correct use of the knife, there is no serious military equipment. The principles given by you are what you should teach a person who does not plan to become a kind of enlightened master.
      If I would add anything from the confused oriental ideas, it is a knife warm-up, also in the form of a principle (which is easy to express, but it is hellishly difficult to follow). The principle is "free the body"! That is, all your joints and ligaments at any given time should be completely (well, this is ideal, of course) free. You need to be able to instantly throw off all the clamps and "fly", this significantly increases the likelihood of survival in a knife fight. Well, a strong brush, accustomed to holding the handle, is needed.
      1. Riv
        Riv 13 January 2016 13: 35 New
        Nonsense. A person who is used to solving problems with a knife and living by similar principles is socially dangerous. This is also a "kanka" and sooner or later, he will run into a response from society.

        "The rule of war is not to rely on the fact that the enemy will not come, but to rely on what I can meet him with; not to rely on the fact that he will not attack, but to rely on that I will make an attack on myself impossible for him. "

        That is, the knife / pistol / tank does not really solve anything. Weapons do not guarantee either survival or victory. You can never feel safe against the whole world, no matter how well armed you are. Therefore, the principles of this "school" are initially erroneous, and its students in the literal sense of the word are doomed to extinction.
      2. Chiropractor
        Chiropractor 13 January 2016 14: 10 New
        Quote: Mikhail3
        Well, a strong brush used to holding the handle is needed.

        In my life, two professional deformations most terrify me: the hips of a sprinter-skater and the brush of a tennis player.
        Especially for professional girls who play tennis big - the short thumb is raised closer to the forearm, the other fingers are extended, the wrist is just a rope! Here they have a habit of holding the handle plus striking at various angles - here are the hacksaws, so the hacksaws! smile
        1. Mikhail3
          Mikhail3 14 January 2016 11: 02 New
          That you still did not pay attention to badminton players. Since their physical activity is several times greater than in tennis, their working arm is developed as if they were medieval swordsmen. There is nothing terrible in these deformations. Or do you prefer a fat uniformly covering the body in your heart, in which weak muscle tubes hang? I personally choose the hips of skaters and the brushes of contact sports, definitely.
  2. Razvedka_Boem
    Razvedka_Boem 13 January 2016 14: 41 New
    An interesting school, given that the thing is happening in Mexico, they tried to reduce, in a certain system, the principles of knife fighting, taking into account their local specifics. Tough, fleeting, effective.
  3. SIT
    SIT 13 January 2016 23: 47 New
    Already which knife school is shown and everywhere the knife is in only one hand. After all, there are 2 hands, which means there should be 2 knives, if we are talking about military use. In order to work symmetrically, it is not necessary to study the knife, but the base of movements within which thread of the school of martial art. There, at the base of all movements will be 3 external correspondences, on the basis of which all movements will be built. Will there be any kind of weapon in his hands or it will not be on the principle of all movements will not affect in any way. The knife is no exception, and since it is a short weapon, it allows you to work with it in each hand, as opposed to a long one that must be held with 2 hands.
    1. Razvedka_Boem
      Razvedka_Boem 14 January 2016 08: 04 New
      For example, Java. After operating the movements in the hand, anything can.
    2. Riv
      Riv 14 January 2016 10: 25 New
      And you can still hold the knife in your teeth. Three knives are more dangerous than two? Of course it’s more dangerous. And tie to the legs of the knife. And so walk. :)

      But there is an easier option. It takes a year not to cut the nails on the limbs. Natural weapons are the most reliable. True, there is one problem: wiping your ass is a little difficult, but such little things do not stop a true expert in hand-to-hand combat, right?
  4. gladcu2
    gladcu2 15 January 2016 00: 12 New
    There is no need to spend your life on training if the system gives a meager priority in survival. Better running and shooting. Everything else is exotic.
    1. Razvedka_Boem
      Razvedka_Boem 15 January 2016 18: 31 New
      With regard to the civilian population - not all countries can legally buy a firearm. Maintaining a physical form can also be difficult, for example, there is nothing to eat .. Here, a knife and several movements driven to the level of the reflex will be more useful.
      Sitting in well-fed countries to evaluate such things is incorrect.