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Mali patriots urged Putin to "intervene in the Mali crisis"

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A week ago, patriotic citizens from the city of Segou in southern Mali made a petition in which the government is invited to seek help from the Russian president to intervene in the protracted conflict and help bring peace back to the country, reports Look with reference to Actusen.com.




Now a special commission has been created in Mali, which will try to collect millions of signatures in support of the 8 petition.

“Russia must save Mali,” say citizens of an African country. “The authorities do not control the situation and cannot overcome the growing uncertainty.” Therefore, according to patriots, “Putin should intervene in the Mali crisis”.

“Despite the presence in the country of the United Nations Stabilization Mission in Mali (MINUSMA), the conduct of the French anti-terrorist operation Barkhan and the operation of the Algiers Agreement concluded between the Mali government and the Tuareg rebels, the situation in the country is still unstable,” the newspaper writes. .

The northern part of Mali is controlled by the separatists. There are UN peacekeepers in the country, which include 11 thousand troops and 1,5 thousand police officers. In addition, there is based 4-thousandth contingent of the French army.

“The crisis in Mali was a consequence of the overthrow of Muammar Gaddafi’s regime in Libya in 2011 in the year when refugees from Tuareg tribes poured into Malian territory. Having occupied the northern part of Mali, they proclaimed an independent state Azawad there. Later, the Tuareg were driven out of extremists from the territories under their control, ”the newspaper“ Vzglyad ”reminds.
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  1. ALABAY45
    ALABAY45 9 January 2016 13: 38 New
    149
    Here, only Mali doesn’t have enough for us! Let the UN resolve it, together with the 4 thousandth contingent of the French army ... soldier
    1. MIKHAN
      MIKHAN 9 January 2016 13: 40 New
      64
      Quote: ALABAY45
      Well, only Mali doesn’t have enough for us!

      Already take off ...! laughing
      1. Lukich
        Lukich 9 January 2016 13: 43 New
        24
        Quote: MIKHAN
        Already take off ...!

        aha, walking and falling
        1. cniza
          cniza 9 January 2016 14: 02 New
          11
          There is enough without us, let them out if they are ready to sell weapons and that’s all.
          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana 9 January 2016 17: 09 New
            40
            From the text of the article
            Russia SHOULD save Mali, say African citizens.

            This is generally in principle (!) The incorrect formulation of the question by the citizens of an African country!
            Dear citizens of Mali! Russia DOES NOT NEED ANYONE AT ALL!
            Everything that Russia does, it does only of her own free will and her own abilities!
            1. Tatyana
              Tatyana 9 January 2016 17: 39 New
              11
              To consider that every nation in the world has the RIGHT to Russia - just “sit down” on it and “go” on it (!) - is WRONG in principle.
              1. Tatyana
                Tatyana 9 January 2016 18: 21 New
                +9
                The very principle in international relations, that supposedly “Russia owes something to every nation abroad just and does not pay back!” Is a Machiavellian principle of instilling disrespect, ingratitude, colonial parasitism and hatred towards the peoples of Russia among the peoples of other countries, to the Russian people, and to Russia itself.
                T.N. "international" world Trotskyism must become a thing of the past in politics for all the peoples of the world - forever.
                1. sa-ag
                  sa-ag 9 January 2016 18: 30 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Tatiana
                  International Trotskyism must be a thing of the past.

                  Oh Tatyana, here you are very wrong, Trotskyism has been dragged for some reason, fashion or something, but internationalism is an idea that can prevent or stop many conflicts, not by itself, but paired with some other idea that resolves social inequality, internationalism eliminates interethnic and interfaith conflicts
                  1. Tatyana
                    Tatyana 9 January 2016 19: 19 New
                    +9
                    sa-ag
                    Quote: Tatiana
                    International Trotskyism must be a thing of the past.
                    Oh, Tatyana, here you are very wrong, Trotskyism has been dragged for some reason, fashion or something,

                    You, dear sa-ag, have a perverse - eclectic (all in one heap) - understanding of internationalism in general, and of Trotsky's "internationalism" in particular. This will explain to you for a long time. I will only say that.
                    In assessing the Soviet system, many polemicists on this issue do not take into account that the CPSU (b) after Lenin’s death, in fact, consisted of 2 parties — the “party” of Trotsky and the “party” of Stalin. And these parties had completely different - directly opposite - tasks. Trotsky's party was supposed to surrender Soviet Russia under the external control of the Anglo-Saxons and French, and the Stalin party fought for the sovereignty of the country.
                    That is the difference between Trotsky's internationalism and Stalin's internationalism in relation to Russia.
                    The Malians, when they say that "Russia SHOULD them ...", proceed in the old Soviet way - from the remnants of Trotsky's intentionalism.
                    but internationalism, this is an idea that can prevent or end many conflicts, not by itself, but paired with ANOTHER IDEA that resolves social inequality, internationalism eliminates interethnic and interfaith conflicts

                    This is not called internationalism, but the use of TEMPORAL allies in a war.
                    So.
                    1. Mahmut
                      Mahmut 9 January 2016 22: 38 New
                      +1
                      How quickly these donkey asses missed my father’s wide belt.
                      - In the queue of bitch children! In queue!
                    2. Mavrikiy
                      Mavrikiy 10 January 2016 17: 44 New
                      +1
                      Tatyana, it seems to me that you are sitting on a framed Trojan horse. Be careful. Height, heels there.
                      "PAIRED with ANOTHER IDEA that resolves social inequalities" is seductive, understandable "the end justifies all means." And then it turns out that "some IDEA" is far from just any.
            2. sa-ag
              sa-ag 9 January 2016 17: 48 New
              +1
              Quote: Tatiana
              Dear citizens of Mali!

              "You have no oil and gas ..."
              1. zennon
                zennon 9 January 2016 19: 18 New
                18
                Quote: sa-ag
                "You have no oil and gas ..."

                No. Natural resources include deposits of iron ore, manganese, polymetals (copper, lead, zinc, silver), tin, bauxite, gold, lithium, uranium, diamonds, phosphorites. The Chinese are actively introducing themselves there. Let them fight for blacks.
                1. Fafnir
                  Fafnir 9 January 2016 21: 55 New
                  +5
                  Let be. And we'll see what the Chinese are. Well, besides the quantity of course. smile
            3. rom8726
              rom8726 9 January 2016 22: 36 New
              0
              perhaps "should" is a translation like this
        2. Mavrikiy
          Mavrikiy 9 January 2016 17: 34 New
          +4
          "You are evil, I will leave you."
      2. BLOND
        BLOND 9 January 2016 13: 44 New
        11
        MIKHAN you though harmful (in some places)))
        But the sergeant is not yours - we will raise ...
      3. Cheshire
        Cheshire 9 January 2016 14: 05 New
        +7
        Quote: ALABAY45
        Well, only Mali doesn’t have enough for us!
        Already take off ...! laughing

        GDP is the good doctor Aibolit. laughing
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          1. 34 region
            34 region 9 January 2016 16: 07 New
            +4
            If we do not help, there will be other helpers. An example of the outskirts is enough.
            1. PSih2097
              PSih2097 9 January 2016 17: 12 New
              +2
              Quote: Region 34
              If we do not help, there will be other helpers.

              Mali is exactly the same Afghanistan, but there are no mountains like in Afghanistan ... Maximum help, as in the USSR, is only for money - with technology and adviser-instructors.
              1. Saratoga833
                Saratoga833 9 January 2016 18: 49 New
                11
                Ethiopia, Somalia, Congo, South Africa, Sudan and many, many other countries, which we helped to the best of our ability. As soon as everything more or less settled down for them, they immediately turned their backs to us! Still, the saying is true: "Do not do good to a person - you will not get evil." And the request of the Malians reminds of Ukraine, to which someone "must" do something!
              2. kuz363
                kuz363 9 January 2016 19: 33 New
                +3
                Probably in Russia a lot of extra money appeared? They raise everything in a row - prices, taxes, fines ...
            2. GRAY
              GRAY 9 January 2016 17: 32 New
              14
              Quote: Region 34
              If we do not help, there will be other helpers.

              Mali is a French protectorate, where the government is holding on to the French armed forces alone.
              Accordingly, official requests from their government are not expected.
              This is a French sandbox, let the French pick it there - they’ve got enough business for one year.
              The caliphate, in general, walks almost half of Africa. What, now, will Putin be called everywhere?
              1. wasjasibirjac
                wasjasibirjac 9 January 2016 18: 45 New
                +4
                Quote: GRAY
                What, now, will Putin be called everywhere?
                funny. it is Putin who is asking to intervene, not Russia. Putin is now in such authority that he is PERSONALLY invited as an ARBITER. The master will come - the master will judge?
              2. sub307
                sub307 9 January 2016 19: 10 New
                +2
                Generally - "Protectorate (Latin protector - patron) is a form of interstate relations in which one state is under the protection (primarily military) of another state. Protectorate is also called a protected state. A state exercising a protectorate is called a protector."
                However - "Mali, officially - the Republic of Mali (French République du Mali) - state in West Africa ... "
                Polit, ustroystvo - "The head of state is the president, elected by universal suffrage for a term of 5 years (a second term in a row is possible). The president appoints a prime minister who forms the government." Where is the protectorate from ...?
                The fact that they are appealing to Russia in the person of our president ... thanks, as they say, for the trust, but we hardly need to actively "settle" the "situevina" there ... in any case, now. Is it possible to "work" with the local ISIS purposefully and not on a very large scale, with "special means" ..., so to speak.
                1. GRAY
                  GRAY 9 January 2016 21: 18 New
                  +4
                  Quote: sub307
                  (a second term in a row is possible). The president appoints the prime minister who forms the government. "Where does the protectorate come from ...?

                  Forget the election.
                  April 29 The next presidential election was to take place on 2012.

                  But just two months before them, on 22 of March, a mutiny began among the military. The military seized the presidential palace, television and barracks with arsenals of weapons. They stated that they are creating the “National Committee for the Restoration of Democracy and the Revival of the State." Captain Amadu Sanogo led the uprising.

                  For your information, Captain Amadou Sanoy was trained in the United States, first as part of the International Military Education and Training (IMET) program in Georgia and then in the Marine Corps in Quantico, Virginia.

                  8 April overthrown President Amadou Toumani Toure wrote a letter of resignation. That is, there was no need for a coup, because he was ready to transfer power by legal means, which would have happened without a coup in a couple of months.

                  12 April Dionkund Traore is sworn in as president of Mali. Attention: WITHOUT ELECTIONS! "Democratic" president, whom no one chose. He was appointed by the "international community."

                  And why all this was necessary, we learn from the following message: On May 21, thousands of unarmed citizens of Mali seized the presidential palace, demanding the resignation of interim President Dionkund Traore. That is, the people “hate the“ appointed president ”, and they would never choose democratically. But someone (it will be seen later that France and the United States) really needed to stage it, therefore the whole performance was flipped over with a coup.

                  Sound familiar?
                  On January 11, 2013, a “fake socialist,” French President Francois Hollande admitted that French troops had invaded Mali, helping soldiers of the local puppet dictator repel the rebel advance south. Having thereby thereby corrected the UN Charter, the principles of the Westphalian peace, the principle of the right of nations to self-determination, the sovereignty of Mali, and even the French Constitution (which is worth mentioning).

                  I open the thesis in detail. First, Hollande has no UN mandate for any military action in Mali (he could not get it).

                  The UN Security Council has scheduled a military operation for the fall, saying that the peacekeepers will act "respecting the sovereignty, territorial integrity and unity of the country." But what makes Hollande is a military invasion, and during an invasion, respect for sovereignty is impossible (just as with rape it is impossible to preserve the virginity of the victim).

                  Totally here:
                  http://armyman.info/stati/9450-vtorzhenie-francii-v-mali-dvoynye-standarty-demok
                  raticheskih-imperiy.html
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            3. Bayonet
              Bayonet 10 January 2016 10: 38 New
              +1
              Quote: Region 34
              If we do not help, there will be other helpers

              Yes, they all went ...! Yesterday I received the bill from the housing and communal services - a thousand more than before! Mali damn them, you need to think about yours! am
          2. saltickov.
            saltickov. 9 January 2016 17: 10 New
            0
            Thank you laugh.
            1. gladcu2
              gladcu2 11 January 2016 17: 38 New
              0
              This is the international recognition of the sovereignty of Russia.

              What makes you laugh?
        2. 34 region
          34 region 9 January 2016 16: 06 New
          +9
          It's not about Aibolit. It's just that people have already seen enough of different peacekeepers. Opinion about the leaders of Western countries below the plinth. And why don't we help people? The West is fully helping the regimes they need. Why can't we? It will be our sphere of influence. Or can only the West move its interests towards our borders? We will give loans for the purchase of our products and our economy will work. I think they need help. How? You have to think about it.
          1. Zoldat_A
            Zoldat_A 9 January 2016 16: 32 New
            13
            Quote: Region 34
            And why don't we help people? West helps in every way the modes they need.

            The fact of the matter is that we are still it is not the regime, not the government or their president who asks for help, but "patriotic citizens from the city of Segou in southern Mali"... If you listen to all the "citizens", why will we be better than the Americans, who, in order to plunge into chaos a country with a population of 10 million, for example, a request of a couple of hundred or even thousands of "patriotic" citizens. Why, it is difficult for our "white tape" workers from Bolotnaya to ask the West for America to come and put us in order? It's not difficult, and they ask, sss ..... ki. So America won't come to us directly - it pokes. But to some Libya, Guatemala, Syria, Chile, Nicaragua, Ukraine - easily!

            Even if the government asks, we really need to think about whether we need that Mali? For 100 years, the French brought "order" there - they brought it to the point that there are more coup d'états there than we have rain. So let the colonists continue to work on American prompts. And then they brought up the Kurds there under the name "Tuaregs", and now they do not know who to drive from where. In Syria, we ought to figure out where the moderates are, where they are not very much, and where are completely divorced "oppositionists" ...

            It is, of course, nice that at least someone sees and correctly evaluates what we are doing in Syria. But in order not to work out as usual in America, you first need to bring things to their senses there, and then look around. And then, like America, we will create "democracies" all over the world, and then "at some point something went wrong" ...

            Both Bush and Ushasty already promised America that they had finally won in Iraq ... And how did it end? Rather, it did not end and it is not known when it will end ... You can’t be the same [censored]like Obama ...
            1. 34 region
              34 region 9 January 2016 16: 59 New
              12
              But the Americans really won in Afghanistan and Iraq. There is no science or production there today. Well, there is the production of opium and oil. To prevent the economies of other countries from rising is also a war. And the Americans win it. Now they get to Europe. Achieve the same as in Afghanistan and Iraq. Is it really not visible? It was the same with us in the 90s. The economy was stupidly ruined.
              1. sharp-lad
                sharp-lad 9 January 2016 21: 20 New
                +1
                Translated onto the rails of self-destruction. hi
              2. Bayonet
                Bayonet 10 January 2016 10: 41 New
                0
                Quote: Region 34
                There is no science there today,

                And she was there ??? Especially in Afghanistan laughing
            2. grigoriy
              grigoriy 9 January 2016 17: 03 New
              +2
              You can work hard at the diplomatic level, we have pretty strong diplomacy. Another question is whether the game is worth the candle.
          2. nuclear scientist
            nuclear scientist 9 January 2016 17: 20 New
            +5
            Yes, and it passed! We will receive a bad loan and give products! And so our people are poor. And if you want to help for God's sake, but in private, and not at the expense of our people !!!
          3. Saratoga833
            Saratoga833 9 January 2016 18: 53 New
            +3
            Quote: Region 34
            You have to think about it.

            And think hard, and then do it! Just do not send our guys to die for the interests of others! And with regard to military or material assistance, the same thing needs to be considered. Already burned more than once!
          4. kuz363
            kuz363 9 January 2016 19: 35 New
            +4
            At one time, the USSR provided half the world with weapons for loans or for free. And then Russia forgave these loans by billions as a sign of "friendly" intentions. Maybe it was better to use them in Russia?
          5. CKORPII
            CKORPII 10 January 2016 03: 11 New
            +2
            we ourselves didn’t help, and here Mali
      4. marna
        marna 9 January 2016 14: 42 New
        10
        Quote: MIKHAN
        Already take off ...!

        Well, yes, they found the Ministry of Emergencies international! The West will arrange ruins, and Russia, let's rake. Then the Western partners will also give us sanctions for ..., but it doesn’t matter if they find, for no problem, there would be a reason.
      5. Finches
        Finches 9 January 2016 14: 50 New
        10
        A trifle, but nice! laughing
      6. NEXUS
        NEXUS 9 January 2016 14: 53 New
        11
        Quote: MIKHAN
        Already take off ...!

        We would have to deal with Syria ... and Iraq, Afghanistan and Yemen are next in turn. This line does not end. We are fixing up a mess for mattresses.
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 9 January 2016 15: 03 New
          -26 qualifying.
          Our VKS in the Syrian quagmire got stuck to the ears - they destroyed several thousand militants and more than 10000 objects, but it’s invisible to see that - ISIS fought and are at war, fuel trucks with oil crossed the Turkish border and cross it.
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 9 January 2016 15: 12 New
            20
            Quote: Vadim237
            Our VKS in the Syrian quagmire are completely stuck

            I read your "professional" comments. Whinnied for a long time
            Quote: Vadim237
            and the sense of this is invisible, -

            Give glasses?
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            2. Vadim237
              Vadim237 9 January 2016 15: 30 New
              -16 qualifying.
              Give points - in the form of a map of Syria - what happened before our bombing and what happened after.
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 9 January 2016 15: 34 New
                13
                Quote: Vadim237
                Give points - in the form of a map of Syria - what happened before our bombing and what happened after.

                No, glasses will not help you, you are the one who sees and knows best of all.
                1. Vadim237
                  Vadim237 9 January 2016 15: 49 New
                  -14 qualifying.
                  I take information from open sources - verified and technical documentation.
                  1. dmi.pris
                    dmi.pris 9 January 2016 16: 57 New
                    +4
                    Did the Russian Aerospace Forces provide you with technical documentation ?? And please name your "trusted" sources .. Even managed to check .. Snowden is resting.
                    Quote: Vadim237
                    I take information from open sources - verified and technical documentation.
                    1. Vadim237
                      Vadim237 9 January 2016 17: 55 New
                      -5
                      And you probably believe all the news and messages. Verification is logical reasoning ..
                      1. dmi.pris
                        dmi.pris 9 January 2016 19: 45 New
                        0
                        Here, one gentleman with a Canadian flag is trying to reason logically and find morality in the murder of his mother’s son in Raqqah. You probably are also a fan of speculating on coffee grounds ... VKS operation will take as much time as needed. This is the time for which the Syrian army will completely cope with It’s not the VKS who are bogged down, but your attempts to find a catch in the obvious ...
                        Quote: Vadim237
                        And you probably believe all the news and messages. Verification is logical reasoning ..
                      2. kurs66
                        kurs66 9 January 2016 19: 58 New
                        -1
                        You should be more careful comrade about your sources, not scamming information for general use ... People will come to you from where you need it and you will explain to them what you need;)
                      3. Vadim237
                        Vadim237 9 January 2016 20: 02 New
                        0
                        And what will they show me?
                      4. dmi.pris
                        dmi.pris 9 January 2016 20: 11 New
                        +3
                        My official credentials .. Just kidding of course.
      7. Flooding
        Flooding 9 January 2016 15: 13 New
        +3
        Quote: Vadim237
        Our VKS in the Syrian quagmire got stuck to the ears - they destroyed several thousand militants and more than 10000 objects, and the sense of this is invisible

        Vadim from your quagmire God forbid to see a straw from which you can pull yourself.
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        2. V.ic
          V.ic 9 January 2016 15: 41 New
          0
          Quote: Flood
          see a straw from which you can pull yourself.

          ... now from this moment in more detail, / oh the wise one! / explain your idea! I’ve heard about the eye of a needle, a camel and a rich man, about a straw and a frog, too ... but about getting yourself out of a straw = this is something new.
          1. Flooding
            Flooding 9 January 2016 16: 21 New
            0
            Quote: V.ic
            here from this moment in more detail, / oh the wise one! / explain your idea!

            I do not pretend to be such
            but only thrice blind will not see the changes in the Syrian crisis that entailed the participation of the Russian Aerospace Forces in it.
            Quote: V.ic
            I’ve heard about the eye of a needle, a camel and a rich man, about a straw and a frog too

            biblical tradition has been repeating about the eye of a needle and a camel for thousands of years, but only the temptation is stronger. About a straw and a frog? No, I did not dabble in childhood, and now even more so. I used it in the context of a drowning man grabbing at a straw.
            Have you written enough or will we chew on?
            1. V.ic
              V.ic 9 January 2016 20: 41 New
              0
              Quote: Flood
              Have you written enough ...?

              It would be desirable to explain in a simpler way: “In the Gospel of Matthew (Ch. 5, v. 37), Jesus tells his listeners about the uselessness of oaths and God:“ But let your word be: “yes, yes,” “no, no”; what is beyond this is from the evil one. "
              Quote: Flood
              ... or will we chew on?

              If you like this process, then I dare not interfere.
              And if without mockery, in an amicable way, then it is not for nothing that there is truth: "My tongue is my enemy: it speaks before the mind." And I still don't recognize such a word "context", it's Latin / dead language /.
          2. Amurets
            Amurets 9 January 2016 16: 41 New
            0
            Quote: V.ic
            but about getting yourself out of the straw = this is something new.

            Well, this is probably how Baron Munchausen pulled himself out of the swamp by the scruff. Together with the horse.
            1. V.ic
              V.ic 9 January 2016 20: 46 New
              0
              Quote: Amurets
              how Baron Munchausen pulled himself out of a swamp by a scruff.

              You know, I suggested something different, referring to the Eastern wisdom, that: "An extra straw breaks the back of a camel."
        3. Vadim237
          Vadim237 9 January 2016 15: 43 New
          -4
          I don’t have a quagmire, and the fact that the videoconferencing in Syria is stuck for a long time is a fact, all the same, that there are firecrackers running around ants throughout the garden in the hope of destroying them.
          1. Flooding
            Flooding 9 January 2016 16: 36 New
            +5
            Quote: Vadim237
            and the fact that the videoconferencing in Syria is stuck for a long time is a fact

            You are wrong at least twice.
            The first time is clearly indicating addiction to quick and victorious conflicts.
            But world history is made by wars, not swoops. And war and terrorism cannot be quick.
            Second time - by submitting a pretentious application for providence. Three months is not a period, but the results are already evident. What is your starting point when you say that videoconferencing is "stuck"? Do you see through the years? Is this a forecast?
          2. Shadowcat
            Shadowcat 9 January 2016 16: 52 New
            +5
            Give a term. If everything goes according to my proposed strategy (not in the sense of signing the Supreme Commander, but in the sense of theoretical reasoning), then now the Russian Aerospace Forces and the SAR Army are engaged in this not a struggle within the country for territory (unless there is a need to occupy key facilities), but cutting off supply routes "opposition". I think this is just characteristic of the offensive in the south and north. And once the "opposition" takes control of the border, it won't last a couple of months.

            Suddenly, the current Yankees can fight and the results are visible to the naked eye.
            1. Vadim237
              Vadim237 9 January 2016 17: 49 New
              +1
              I’m not talking about swoops, I say that the porridge formed there for a few years of disentangling - our VKS will certainly withstand, but will the Syrian army withstand a few more years of uninterrupted war.
              1. Shadowcat
                Shadowcat 9 January 2016 18: 06 New
                +2
                If everything goes well then everything will end before the end of the year, in more detail there will already be a work of local law enforcement bodies and counterterrorists for 3-5 years.
                1. Vadim237
                  Vadim237 9 January 2016 19: 52 New
                  +1
                  Do not tell me how many years we struggled with a similar problem in Chechnya.
                  1. Shadowcat
                    Shadowcat 9 January 2016 20: 25 New
                    0
                    Do not tell me where they had money for activities?
                  2. Vadim237
                    Vadim237 9 January 2016 21: 48 New
                    +1
                    To the first Chechen one from the sale of oil and foreign sponsors - Saudi Arabia as an example, during the armistice from 1996 to 2000, the flow of money was replenished from the territory of Russia, Chechens who had their own business outside the republic were introduced dues, numerous emissaries traveled through the territory of the Russian Federation and beat out loot from their own, the sale of weapons abroad and much more.
        4. PSih2097
          PSih2097 9 January 2016 17: 23 New
          +3
          Quote: Vadim237
          I don’t have a quagmire, and the fact that the videoconferencing in Syria is stuck for a long time is a fact, all the same, that there are firecrackers running around ants throughout the garden in the hope of destroying them.

          victory will be only when the infantry occupies the entire territory, and the inside will clean up the remnants. And the Russian Air Force only helps the SV ATS in this, although as for me, the group of the RF Armed Forces in the ATS needs to be increased (increase the number of Su-34s and to throw at least a Tu-22m3 regiment), because only with the help of a database in the ATS will our military get such a combat experience that you will not get at the coolest exercises as close as possible.
          1. sa-ag
            sa-ag 10 January 2016 09: 43 New
            -1
            Quote: PSih2097
            because only through the database in the SAR will our military receive such combat experience that they will not receive at the coolest exercises as close as possible.

            It is doubtful that in polygon conditions it is possible to organize difficult conditions with the help of electronic warfare and the involvement of conditional enemy troops, while on the Syrian theater there is nothing of the kind for the Russian Air Force
    2. vovanpain
      vovanpain 9 January 2016 17: 01 New
      11
      Quote: Vadim237
      Our VKS in the Syrian quagmire got stuck to the ears - they destroyed several thousand militants and more than 10000 objects, but it’s invisible to see that - ISIS fought and are at war, fuel trucks with oil crossed the Turkish border and cross it.

      Vadim, who said that we’ll come, we’ll take a look and win right away? No, dear, only cats breed quickly, and Syria is exhausted in 4 years of intervention by a gangster international. Not only DAISH and Jabhat en Nusra are there, but also any creatures in a pair, as they say and in September-October, only the lazy one in the west probably didn’t yell that Assad was left no more than two weeks before the fall, now, mind you, shut up, sometimes the truth is that mattress mattresses drag out their mantra, that Assad must leave, but their mongrel maw. on the offensive, for the first time in several years. Everything at once Vadim happens only in fairy tales. Regards hi
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 9 January 2016 17: 41 New
        +2
        It's just that we slowed down a lot with the help of Syria, this was not to start 2 years ago, if our leadership did so - now there would not be an exploded plane in Egypt, tens of thousands of killed Syrian citizens, military personnel and ISIS would have been destroyed in their rudimentary state. And now this is essentially an "Afghan scenario" - the Syrian army is bled white, 100-200 new fighters arrive to the militants every day, although our aerospace forces have destroyed ten thousand objects and several thousand fuel trucks, despite this resistance of the militants does not decrease, and there are no fewer fuel trucks becomes, just as there are no fewer people who want to join the ranks of ISIS, and such an established conveyor will work for a very long time, the militants will eventually be overcome, but they are already preparing a new Islamic State, only in Libya - the death conveyor will continue to work after after Syria is liberated - about a missed opportunity - that's what I mean.
        1. vovanpain
          vovanpain 9 January 2016 19: 22 New
          +8
          Quote: Vadim237
          It’s just that we’ve braked a lot with the help of Syria, it should have started 2 years ago, if our leadership was like this - now there would have been no blown up plane in Egypt, tens of thousands of killed Syrian citizens, military personnel and ISIS would have been destroyed in its infancy

          The international Islamist Sunni terrorist organization, operating mainly on the territory of Syria (partially controlling its northeastern territories) and Iraq (partially controlling the territory of the "Sunni triangle") since 2013 as an unrecognized quasi-state (proclaimed as a world caliphate on June 29, 2014 with a Sharia form Board and headquarters (actually the capital) in the Syrian city of Rakka.In addition to Syria and Iraq, the Islamic State or its controlled groups also participate in hostilities in Lebanon, Afghanistan, Algeria, Pakistan, Libya, Egypt, Yemen, Nigeria, and are conducting activity in some other countries.

          IG is recognized by many countries and international organizations as a terrorist organization.

          It emerged in Iraq in 2003 as the al-Qaeda in Iraq terrorist group (Jordanian founder Ahmed Fadil Khaleilah, known as Abu Musab al-Zarqawi). In October 2006, after merging with other radical Islamic groups, it was proclaimed as the “Islamic State of Iraq” [38].

          The total area of ​​the territory controlled by the IG as of 2014 was estimated at 40–90 thousand km², and the number of people living on it, mainly consisting of Sunnis, was 8 million people. As you can see, not everything is just dear Vadim. Information from Wikipedia.
          1. vovanpain
            vovanpain 9 January 2016 19: 32 New
            +9
            Quote: vovanpain
            In October 2006, after merging with other radical Islamic groups, it was proclaimed as the “Islamic State of Iraq” [

            As you can see, if you crush them in the bud, it should have started much earlier, by the way, the percentage of professional Iraqi military men who served under Saddam Hussein and who were out of work after the destruction of Saddam is very high in ISIS military wing. Well, how the Turks, the Saudis help them , Qatari, you yourself know. You are right. Vadim, the fight against the Barmels will be long, but the government army raised its head, there is hope and not small. hi
          2. Vadim237
            Vadim237 9 January 2016 19: 34 New
            +1
            Sorry since 2013.
    3. Old shoe
      Old shoe 9 January 2016 17: 45 New
      0
      Hmm ... Well, the phrase "in the Syrian quagmire" gives you away. The State Department's methodical book is a mile away. They recommend this word to be inserted everywhere. Whether we are talking about Syria, Afghanistan or Ukraine. And all around we are "in the quagmire".
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 9 January 2016 19: 37 New
        0
        One hundred percent with Ukraine - it’s not even clear what will happen there.
      2. Vadim237
        Vadim237 9 January 2016 20: 09 New
        +1
        You do not ascribe events to all the State Department in terms of expressions - so you can get Paranoia sick.
      3. dauria
        dauria 9 January 2016 21: 46 New
        +3
        Manuals State Department smacks a mile away. That they recommend inserting this word everywhere.


        Hmm, this is in vain. If something looks like dung, looks like dung and smells like dung, is it manure? In any case, the person used the Russian, not the "state department" word. Not satisfied - prove that this is asphalt, not bog ... smile By the way, for me, too, is a "quagmire" into which I had to get into because of extreme necessity. And it is not a fact that we will get out of it with the result we are counting on.
    4. NEXUS
      NEXUS 9 January 2016 17: 51 New
      +4
      Quote: Vadim237
      Our VKS in the Syrian quagmire got stuck to the ears - they destroyed several thousand militants and more than 10000 objects, but it’s invisible to see that - ISIS fought and are at war, fuel trucks with oil crossed the Turkish border and cross it.

      Do you think that the USA built and financed the Saudis, Erdogan can be destroyed for half a year for years? You probably forgot, or they don’t say in open sources that Russia didn’t plan a ground operation with the participation of its troops. And the VKS only helps the regular army Syria.
      ISIS was not born yesterday, and for a short time this garbage can not be dismantled. Smart people, even those who do not use open sources, initially understood that all this did not start for a month and not for half a year.
      "Take it out and put" here will not work. 10000 objects were bombed, and how many are left in the same Afghanistan, Iraq, Turkey, where are the funding and the militants coming from?
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 9 January 2016 19: 48 New
        +1
        ISIS has bases in Turkey, Qatar, Yemen, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Lebanon, Iraq, Libya - we are not striking these bases - the conveyor for supplying weapons and militants to Syria will continue to work - again returning to "ants and vegetable gardens "- on their site the ants were exterminated, and again came running from the neighboring anthills - a vicious circle.
        1. NEXUS
          NEXUS 9 January 2016 19: 53 New
          +2
          Quote: Vadim237
          ISIS has bases in Turkey, Qatar, Yemen, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Lebanon, Iraq, Libya - we are not attacking these bases -

          Dear, did the Owls Without the UN give us permission for these attacks? In Syria, we are legally. Or do not care about the laws, as the United States does?
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 9 January 2016 20: 06 New
            0
            As I wrote above, without striking at militant training bases, abroad of Syria - this will be a vicious circle.
            1. Tusv
              Tusv 9 January 2016 20: 32 New
              +1
              Quote: Vadim237
              As I wrote above, without striking at militant training bases, abroad of Syria - this will be a vicious circle.
              I agree with NEXUS. How do you imagine that? Some states lease "penball", as well as football and all kinds of different grounds, and you infringe on their sovereignty? The third world immediately.
              Perseverance and patience will save this world.
              1. Vadim237
                Vadim237 9 January 2016 21: 59 New
                0
                What is the third world - with whom? The USA and NATO will instantly throw them off their responsibility, some will be happy - oil prices will soar, and so persistence and patience in the fight against a very powerful "terrorist conveyor" - and products that have gone far from this conveyor - work to no end.
                1. Tusv
                  Tusv 9 January 2016 22: 24 New
                  -1
                  Quote: Vadim237
                  and patience in the fight against a very powerful "terrorist conveyor" - and products that have gone far from this conveyor - work in vain.

                  To make the republic of Chechnya peaceful and prosperous, there was little will. A lot of patience, reason, propaganda finally and of course love.
                  Well, will you bomb everyone and everything, as the Americans do, who will reach Russia? None. And the Wahhabis, we evicted from the Russian land
                2. Vadim237
                  Vadim237 9 January 2016 23: 03 New
                  +1
                  Yes, the Wahhabis were evicted, most of them, but not all — those who stayed gray, waited, recruited new supporters and went to Syria on the side of ISIS, and now they have begun to return back to Russia.
  • Flooding
    Flooding 9 January 2016 15: 12 New
    +3
    Quote: NEXUS
    and Iraq, Afghanistan and Yemen are next in turn

    Iraq - only diplomacy and supplies of military equipment
    Until he reaches the turn in a number of EU countries, elections will be held, which will entail some changes in foreign policy.
    Afghanistan - learn the lessons of modern and contemporary history. And we strengthen the external borders of Russia in Central Asia.
    Yemen - change to Qatar and Saudi Arabia.
    1. 34 region
      34 region 9 January 2016 16: 16 New
      +1
      And how bad was the existence of a pro-Soviet government in Afghanistan? Today there is pro-American. So we will pro-American regimes around us? Maybe it's time to move away from this practice, to give countries to the sphere of foreign interests? Enough to multiply the Afghans and the outskirts around you! It's time to take power into our own hands!
  • Orionvit
    Orionvit 9 January 2016 16: 34 New
    +2
    What is Afghanistan and Yemen? Next in line is Russia, All this is a prelude. Russia must be defended.
    1. 34 region
      34 region 9 January 2016 17: 05 New
      +2
      Russia must be defended. And preferably even in distant territories. We waved a hand at the former Soviet republics and the CMEA countries. And behind us? Damn it! Crawled even closer. Therefore, we do not interfere with the rear of our active partners.
  • Zoldat_A
    Zoldat_A 9 January 2016 16: 40 New
    +4
    Quote: NEXUS
    We should deal with Syria ...and Iraq, Afghanistan and Yemen are in turn. This line does not end. We are fixing a mess for mattresses.

    First I wrote the comment above, only then I read it here, but above it turned out to write the same thing absolutely, only I have a little more detailed.

    Until we do what we came for in Syria, there is nothing to look for as "exceptional" all over the world on their gluteal muscles ...
    1. 34 region
      34 region 9 January 2016 17: 11 New
      +3
      And in Syria, we need to fill our hand so that we can beat cunning, red faces. And they will reckon with us only after the massacre (them). If they don’t beat their faces, then they beat everyone's faces. It’s time to shoot them fights.
  • Allitet
    Allitet 9 January 2016 20: 50 New
    +1
    Soon, Germany will start asking for our President, because of the refugee crisis, and the Netherlands, because of the EU’s association with Ukraine (it will suffer the same fate as Germany, only refugees will flee from Ukraine), and Poland, because they will impose sanctions against it . Not enough for everyone !!! And the people themselves are to blame for all these crises, because they have endured !!!
  • CKORPII
    CKORPII 10 January 2016 03: 01 New
    0
    we are not enough for all
  • vlad66
    vlad66 9 January 2016 13: 44 New
    27
    Quote: ALABAY45
    Well, only Mali doesn’t have enough for us!

    Well, it’s not necessary for nothing, let them turn to the one who made all this mess - Sarkozy, Cameron or Obama. It is nice of course that the authority of our RF Armed Forces and the President is very high, but it would be better without us. hi
    1. novobranets
      novobranets 9 January 2016 14: 19 New
      17
      Quote: vlad66
      . It is pleasant of course that the authority of our RF Armed Forces and the President is very high, but it would be better without us.

      The fact itself is important. Even in Africa, people see only one state that peace can bring. And this is not the United States, not France or Germany, not the entire EU or UN. It's Russia. This is what is important to understand. Russia might and would help them, perhaps simply through diplomatic means, but let them at least do something in the name of peace in their country, or else they just lie on the stove, sorry, sitting on a palm tree and waiting for someone to come and ruin everything .
      Quote: Ami du peuple
      Blacks comrades, calm down! Putin is alone. He is not enough for everyone.

      Unfortunately this is the case. My mom recently said:
      -Look at what brought Putin. He looks like a deadly tired person. Does he ever sleep?
      1. Flooding
        Flooding 9 January 2016 15: 15 New
        +2
        Quote: novobranets
        The fact itself is important. Even in Africa, people see only one state that peace can bring. And this is not the United States, not France or Germany, not the entire EU or UN. It's Russia.

        Do not forget one important factor - patrician overtures play on the moods of the plebs. Well, of course, senators)
      2. Shadowcat
        Shadowcat 9 January 2016 17: 21 New
        +2
        Directly removed from the tongue)

        Quote: novobranets
        He looks like a dead tired man

        He reminds me of Joseph Vissarionovich in 44-46x. Looking at photos from the beginning of the 40s and already in the middle you understand how hard this work is given.
    2. Orionvit
      Orionvit 9 January 2016 17: 16 New
      +3
      Strange, they stuck me for such words of minuses.
  • Ami du peuple
    Ami du peuple 9 January 2016 13: 44 New
    17
    Quote: ALABAY45
    Well, only Mali doesn’t have enough for us!

    Damn, let him carve a sculpture of Putin from an ebony tree and offer him prayers, as a peace-making deity. They can still knock on tamamas and play tambourines with tambourines. Ritual dances, again, arrange. But don’t need sacrifices - Vladimir Vladimirovich doesn’t like this smile
    Blacks comrades, calm down! Putin is alone. He is not enough for everyone. It is not enough for Russia either. So yourself somehow solve your issues ..
    1. novobranets
      novobranets 9 January 2016 14: 30 New
      +7
      Quote: Ami du peuple
      But don’t need sacrifices - Vladimir Vladimirovich doesn’t like this

      Well, if they cook and eat Abamka, together with his gang, the GDP will not swear at them much. lol
  • Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 9 January 2016 13: 44 New
    +9
    Quote: ALABAY45
    Let the UN resolve, together with the 4-strong contingent of the French army ...

    No, let the French do it, and let the UN continue to puff out its cheeks.
  • Samaritan
    Samaritan 9 January 2016 13: 45 New
    +2
    There, the French ... report that everything is under control ?!
  • Dr. Bormental
    Dr. Bormental 9 January 2016 13: 46 New
    11
    Is Mali the new name for Square?
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 9 January 2016 14: 03 New
      +5
      Quote: Dr. Bormental
      Is Mali the new name for Square?

      No, ancient, now they are so named again so that no one would blame the zrad. yes
      1. Dr. Bormental
        Dr. Bormental 9 January 2016 16: 10 New
        +1
        Maybe they lead their ancient clan from there? They kind of like the first people on earth ... laughing
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    2. Cheshire
      Cheshire 9 January 2016 14: 03 New
      +6
      It just happened to the Malian people quicker than to the kaklov.
    3. Dembel77
      Dembel77 9 January 2016 14: 10 New
      +7
      Fucking Americans, they don't let people live anywhere. Yes, do not be surprised, all this shit began in Libya, in which the hands of the French (who really do not like terrorist attacks in their beloved France), and gentlemen from foggy Albion (who were, in general, the initiators of the "international operation" , they even came up with their name - Operation "Ellami") a world fighter for democracy and a world gendarme at the same time - that is, The United States, along with the "dictatorial regime of Gaddafi", killed at the same time thousands of innocent civilians. So, we did business. By the way, not only the Armed Forces of France, Great Britain and the United States participated in the military operation in Libya. Almost all the countries of the North Atlantic bloc have registered there. And now it is not Mali that needs to be treated, but half of Africa and almost the entire Middle East. That's it!
      1. Wheel
        Wheel 9 January 2016 14: 40 New
        +4
        Quote: Dembel 77
        Almost all countries of the North Atlantic bloc were noted there. And now it is necessary to treat not Mali, but half of Africa and almost the entire Middle East. There you go!
        Normal medicine does not treat effects, but causes.
        Alas, a worthy doctor for that reason is not expected.
      2. Flooding
        Flooding 9 January 2016 15: 16 New
        +3
        Quote: Dembel 77
        Fucking Americans, they don’t let people live anywhere. Yes, yes, do not be surprised, all this shit can started with Libya

        Well, maybe after all from Iraq?
        Moreover, Sarkozy had a hand in Libya first of all.
      3. skifd
        skifd 9 January 2016 16: 02 New
        +3
        Quote: Dembel 77
        Fucking Americans, they don’t let people live anywhere.


        Yes-aa ... Well-ka ish-sho I'll throw my "penny":

        But back to the title of the article. Here is what Lyndon LaRouche, an economist, publicist and prominent representative of the conservative group of American politicians, which included the murdered president, D.F. Kennedy, writes on 24 of April 2010:
        Dvorkovich represents in Russia forces expressing British influence, destroying Russia, despite efforts to turn in another direction. What does this gentleman represent? He represents British interests. He himself is just a British agent for the Inter-Alpha group, a stranglehold on Russia. He may consider himself a Russian, but Gorbachev, especially Andropov, and earlier Khrushchev, they were all inclined ... Khrushchev and Russell entered into a conspiracy. Bertrand Russell is the greatest monster of the 20 century on the planet. Even after he died. So the Russians got infected. What happened Someone got rid of Stalin. And soon after that, under Stalin’s heir, Khrushchev, there was a meeting organized by Bertrand Russell - World parliamentarians for a world government. And four representatives from the Soviet Union, official representatives, came to this meeting. This has always been the goal of Russell, in the 20 years of the last century, and even earlier, a world government, a world empire that will reduce the world's population.
        What did Stalin think of the British after the war and until the end of his life? That they are the infection of the whole planet. “To kill them all!” Such was his mood, to kill them all. These were the true enemies of Russia, the Soviet Union, the British Empire. Churchill and the company organized the post-war conflict and the Cold War. After the assassination, or whatever it was, of Stalin, and the coming to power of Khrushchev, the decomposition of the Soviet Union began. Khrushchev was attached to the British Empire, fell under their influence. Andropov walked under the British already, at least from the Hungarian uprising. And he grew up as an English agent of influence, recruited young Soviet intellectuals, studied English methods, the English economy. He (Andropov) has come a long way. By the time I ran into Andropov, everything had already been decided. Then I did not talk about him as an English agent, although I knew about it. But then I lacked the facts. Gorbachev was already an outspoken English agent and traitor to the Soviet Union. And all this pack of today, including Dvorkovich, all these are agents of the English. The only way for Russia to free itself and gain independence is to transfer them all and recall Russian interests. What are Russian interests? Putin knows them, and others know them too.


        Here's how ... Dumb-complicated everything ... But the text itself is more. But interesting. Link:

        http://mayoripatiev.ru/1364887777
        1. Tusv
          Tusv 9 January 2016 16: 16 New
          +2
          Quote: skifd
          Here's how ... Dumb-complicated everything ... But the text itself is more. But interesting

          The all-powerful head of the almighty KGB Andropov is an English spy? Wouldn’t be crazy. Why not invaders from the Andromeda nebula? Isosceles in credibility
          1. skifd
            skifd 9 January 2016 16: 47 New
            +1
            Quote: Tusv
            The all-powerful head of the almighty KGB Andropov is an English spy?


            Follow the link . Everyone makes their own conclusions. It all depends on the "subjective" perception of information. It is better to perceive everything not emotionally, but as a reason for reflection, comparing certain "facts", which are mainly imposed on us, with realities ... Something like this.

            Well, in general, then, of course, "type-shock". For the "die-hard".
            1. Tusv
              Tusv 9 January 2016 17: 00 New
              0
              Quote: skifd
              Everyone makes their own conclusions. It all depends on the "subjective" perception of information.

              Draw conclusions based on the press? I didn’t act in people in black
              1. skifd
                skifd 9 January 2016 18: 11 New
                0
                Quote: Tusv
                Draw conclusions based on the press? I didn’t act in people in black


                And everything revolves only around the "yellow press" ?? bully Reduce "fly agaric" in your diet, "do not read Soviet newspapers at night" (c), and you will be happy without "hallucinogens" hi .
                1. Tusv
                  Tusv 9 January 2016 22: 07 New
                  +1
                  Quote: skifd
                  Reduce "fly agaric" in the diet

                  In vain are you talking about fly agarics. When used correctly, a noble therapeutic agent. But! Can you call Lawrence Palych an agent of influence? Yuri Vladimirovich was four times stronger. Why the hell did he give in to enroll in English agents?
                  Do not read jaundice at night, nightmares dream
                  1. skifd
                    skifd 10 January 2016 00: 00 New
                    -1
                    Quote: Tusv
                    In vain you so about fly agarics.


                    I don’t like poking. We are "on a friendly footing" ???! what I don’t remember, sir ... smile It is impossible to understand the identity "fly agarics = tabloids" - well ... request
                    In general, the definition of the "yellow press" is now pretty vague. If you are more comfortable with RBC or INTERFAX, it’s not a fact that someone doesn’t consider this "fly agaric". And for some, our VO easily fits this definition. Then what to read ?! wassat laughing
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  • vovanpain
    vovanpain 9 January 2016 13: 58 New
    10
    The northern part of Mali is controlled by the separatists. There are UN peacekeepers in the country, which include 11 thousand troops and 1,5 thousand police officers. In addition, there is based 4-thousandth contingent of the French army.

    Negro comrades themselves, themselves, there’s an entire regiment of janto-eaters, one of the main culprits who arranged
    “The crisis in Mali was a consequence of the overthrow of the regime of Muammar Gaddafi in Libya in 2011, when refugees from the Tuareg tribes poured into Malian territory. Occupying the northern part of Mali, they proclaimed the independent state of Azawad there. Later, the Tuareg from the controlled territories were ousted by extremists, "
  • Sorokin
    Sorokin 9 January 2016 14: 08 New
    +4
    Just about Franks and let them rake.
  • Tor5
    Tor5 9 January 2016 14: 09 New
    +9
    I didn’t sleep for several nights - I thought - what we lack: Eureka! Intervene in Malian affairs))).
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  • dmi.pris
    dmi.pris 9 January 2016 14: 16 New
    +3
    It looks like the UN peacekeepers and the vaunted Foreign Legion got into a big "puddle" ... This shows the complete inability of the UN to "extinguish" conflicts ..
    Quote: ALABAY45
    Here, only Mali doesn’t have enough for us! Let the UN resolve it, together with the 4 thousandth contingent of the French army ... soldier
  • oldseaman1957
    oldseaman1957 9 January 2016 14: 20 New
    -1
    Quote: ALABAY45
    Well, only Mali doesn’t have enough for us!
    So what? After all, the people are bending ... You can think of something feasible to at least a little easier. After all, this is the commandment of Christ: to help your neighbor in the preservation and increase of his property and means of subsistence.
    1. guzik007
      guzik007 9 January 2016 15: 16 New
      +5
      So what? After all, the people are bent ...
      -----------------------------------
      What are you speaking about ? for all of us black, Russian is not enough. We take it on our own, so as not to fall when walking. And in general, how many years have we fed all this hunger? at least one dog said thanks with rare exception (Syrians). So let them go through the woods with their problems. After all, stopudovo-a little better, immediately the Americans will start to look in their mouths.
    2. dmi.pris
      dmi.pris 9 January 2016 15: 49 New
      +3
      Yes, it is necessary to help people (even with a different skin color) .. And why are these people bent? There are international forces there (although they are none ..) Because there is no strong government in the country .. And Putin will not help here, they have they themselves must have a strong leader who will unite the country. An appeal to our president is certainly a sign of people's respect. But why do not these "patriotic forces" themselves try to solve the problem ..
      Quote: oldseaman1957
      Quote: ALABAY45
      Well, only Mali doesn’t have enough for us!
      So what? After all, the people are bending ... You can think of something feasible to at least a little easier. After all, this is the commandment of Christ: to help your neighbor in the preservation and increase of his property and means of subsistence.
  • oldseaman1957
    oldseaman1957 9 January 2016 14: 20 New
    +1
    And there is no need to "interfere" there - after all, Putin clearly said that "from everywhere we need to get it." Just help if possible.
  • little girl15
    little girl15 9 January 2016 14: 23 New
    +3
    Yes, ah, the whole world is crazy. Neither the UN, nor the EU, nor the USA can help Mali. There remains one weak Russia on which the poor inhabitants of Mali hope. It is interesting what these navels of the earth did (i.e., tolerant Europeans and zvezdanuto-minke whales) that poor Africans did not have any hope for a peaceful life.
    1. Amurets
      Amurets 9 January 2016 14: 45 New
      +1
      Quote: Vovochka15
      Neither the UN, nor the EU, nor the USA can help Mali.

      As the French and Americans brewed porridge, so lovers of shit democracy rake it in. Although it’s a pity for ordinary residents of the EU, let refugees do something else to rinse the brains of the European rulers, and there is no need to make a lightning rod and a world gendarme from Russia.
      1. Tusv
        Tusv 9 January 2016 15: 01 New
        +2
        Quote: Amurets
        and from Russia there is no need to make a lightning rod and a world gendarme.

        According to the UN Charter, the world gendarmerie looks like this: Russia, the USA, China, England and France. Mali is the responsibility zone of the youngest policeman - France. Can we help with a kind word and intelligence? And no more
        1. Amurets
          Amurets 9 January 2016 16: 17 New
          +3
          Quote: Tusv
          According to the UN Charter, the world gendarmerie looks like this: Russia, the USA, China, England and France.

          You did not understand my idea. The Americans and the French started the whole operation against Gaddafi in pursuit of their own goals: Sarkozy was hiding the channels of financing the election campaign, and Obama was implanting democracy, empty, unsecured piece of paper. Now they are raking it out, and Russia does not need to get involved in this showdown.
          1. Tusv
            Tusv 9 January 2016 16: 41 New
            +4
            Quote: Amurets
            You did not understand my thought.

            Who says intervening is necessary?
            The gun was also shown in a holster. Good word again in price
            1. Amurets
              Amurets 9 January 2016 16: 46 New
              +3
              Quote: Tusv
              The gun was also shown in a holster. Good word again in price

              I see. We agreed.
          2. Bayonet
            Bayonet 10 January 2016 11: 00 New
            0
            Quote: Amurets
            The Americans and the French started the whole, this operation against Gaddafi

            And also Gaddafi got it! wink
  • rpek32
    rpek32 9 January 2016 14: 53 New
    +3
    Russia should save Mali
    Russia what?
    Is there money, resources? Then it makes sense to have a conversation
    1. Sid.74
      Sid.74 9 January 2016 15: 47 New
      +4
      Look at what the squiggle is, Mali is a former French colony. And again there is a mess. Which is adjacent to seven states. Any attempt to get there, this is an undoubted gift to the French, who will not thank us for this, but they will yell to the whole world, supposedly we all their peace plans were ruined. And after all, there are Islamists associated with terrorist groups in the BV, and all sorts of pseudo-revolutionaries, military revolutionaries, "democratic" and so on, revolutionaries to hell, but it's no use nifiga.
      The French, together with the West, since 2012, haven’t done anything there. All the same mess.
      And next to Mali, Niger and Algeria, where the devil's leg breaks too.
      Here it is necessary to gather the North African countries into a fist in order to crush the terrorists of Africa. And there are no stable countries around Egypt.
      There was no way to deliver weapons, intelligence, only to whom? The UN, EU and the USA do not need stability in Africa, it seems to the French too, and we have to go for everything ... we have to clean it, and they need it, but we need it. There is also no access to the sea. What problems in the delivery of weapons will only add. It will also be necessary to negotiate with neighboring countries, and of course to get there too.
      But our problems in Ukraine and Syria are not solved.
      If you help to solve the issue of stability in Africa, then there are no help from the partners in BRICS, South Africa, and Egypt, there are no other good partners. Even Gaddafi treated Russia mediocre, well, so his Western partners sentenced him. The correspondent was published by the US ambassador with Clinton, where she says bluntly that you can’t allow a gold dinar, since this hegemony of the dollar in the region will crush. That's all you need to know about American democracy. Destroyed the country because of a fucking dollar.
  • Max_Bauder
    Max_Bauder 9 January 2016 15: 20 New
    +7
    As Boris Yulin says, the United States and the French and other EU countries at one time divided African countries (like Syria) by drawing borders not at all according to national, tribal criteria, but "purely" at their discretion as it was convenient to colonize and exploit, now after receiving they, these countries of "independence" in the 60s, sowed such chaos that the coals still do not subside, the US and the French need chaos to siphon the country's resources with the help of a traitor's puppet government for the local, and the rebels are other patriots fighting the regime, others just bandits who, under the guise of war, loving to rob, like anarchists in 1918-22. In short, such chaos will always be, as long as there is the United States and the UN, they did the same in Libya, Iraq, now in Ukraine, and would like to in Russia. European peacekeepers (although a different rabble serves there up to the neighbors of Africans who entered the foreign legion) themselves love to rape local women and will not help to resolve the conflict, they just came to get money for defending the interests of their country who sent, and not stand between the government and the rebels, im deeply for us.
  • Al_oriso
    Al_oriso 9 January 2016 15: 25 New
    +4
    It turns out that Russia can now be called as an ambulance. And there are many patients in the world.
  • Sergey S.
    Sergey S. 9 January 2016 15: 57 New
    +2
    Quote: ALABAY45
    Here, only Mali doesn’t have enough for us! Let the UN resolve it, together with the 4 thousandth contingent of the French army ... soldier

    In the main you are right.
    But ... Responses and returns should be asymmetric.

    If Mali is contacted officially, it is impossible to refuse help to the dying.
    And stop the war. I think you can.

    It is a pity that EM is no longer there. Primakov.
    But I am sure there are worthy diplomats who, for example, starting from Algeria, will agree on a military air base in a protected location ...
    Then, they will notify the Tuareg about the possibility of an autonomous state ...
    Organize a security zone in Mali with a training center ...

    If Russia will actively act in any region of the world, our influence will grow with acceleration, and. as a result, integration processes will take place around ...
    It works the people's memory of the Soviet Union - the fairest state with the most educated and strongest citizens.

    There is one problem. Now the people of Mali are threatened by the medieval ISIS, and if Russia provides assistance in any form, the democrats and their servants will fly ...
    1. Sid.74
      Sid.74 9 January 2016 16: 06 New
      +3
      Quote: Sergey S.
      It is a pity that EM is no longer there. Primakov.
      But I am sure there are worthy diplomats who, for example, starting from Algeria, will agree on a military air base in a protected location ...
      Then, they will notify the Tuareg about the possibility of an autonomous state ...
      Organize a security zone in Mali with a training center ...

      Yeah, but the Americans will be silently watching this and dragging cannibals to the cannibals, yep. Not for that, they crushed Libya so that the order was in Africa, but in order that the buck would not be blown away and it was possible to swing the resources of Africa for nothing. a very long time ... After all, Africa is in a territory much larger than Russia.
      1. Sergey S.
        Sergey S. 10 January 2016 01: 10 New
        0
        Quote: Sid.74

        Yeah, but the Americans will be silently watching this and dragging cannibals to the cannibals, yep. Not for that, they crushed Libya so that the order was in Africa, but in order that the buck would not be blown away and it was possible to swing the resources of Africa for nothing. a very long time ... After all, Africa is in a territory much larger than Russia.

        So I about it ... at the end of the post:
        Quote: Sergey S.
        There is one problem. Now the people of Mali are threatened by the medieval ISIS, and if Russia provides assistance in any form, the democrats and their servants will fly ...
  • coleg-10
    coleg-10 9 January 2016 16: 04 New
    +2
    The direct support of Merkel and the German government led Libya to chaos. Germany is obliged to finance peacekeeping. And also to support the population financially.
  • atalef
    atalef 9 January 2016 16: 10 New
    +5
    Quote: ALABAY45
    Here, only Mali doesn’t have enough for us! Let the UN resolve it, together with the 4 thousandth contingent of the French army ... soldier

    Well, all some kind of poor people ask?
    Where are you patriots of Switzerland and Luxembourg, at worst Monaco?
    Apparently class consciousness has not yet mastered the masses of decaying capitalism, in contrast to the advanced patriots of Mali laughing
    1. sa-ag
      sa-ag 9 January 2016 18: 01 New
      +4
      Quote: atalef
      Where are you patriots of Switzerland

      "There is no time for us, we think about a single basic income."
      Quote: atalef
      Luxembourg

      "We have no time, we count money in three shifts."
      Quote: atalef
      Monaco

      "My dears, this is physically impossible, cards, beautiful girls, bottles of noble drinks leave no opportunity to move limbs and other parts of the body for some kind of scribbling, throw this nonsense and come to us, it's so good here ..." :-)
      1. atalef
        atalef 9 January 2016 18: 38 New
        +4
        Quote: sa-ag
        Quote: atalef
        Where are you patriots of Switzerland

        "There is no time for us, we think about a single basic income."
        Quote: atalef
        Luxembourg

        "We have no time, we count money in three shifts."
        Quote: atalef
        Monaco

        "My dears, this is physically impossible, cards, beautiful girls, bottles of noble drinks leave no opportunity to move limbs and other parts of the body for some kind of scribbling, throw this nonsense and come to us, it's so good here ..." :-)

        You lagged behind the citizens of the rotting regimes of the West, from us (the advanced patriots of Mali -) money is not the main thing in life, we never had it ... Nothing, for that we are spiritual and Putin (hopefully) will understand this.
        But Pasaran ! (more precisely - freedom, equality, fraternity) - in Mali they speak French, but don’t ask for help from the paddles that have healed the Mistral laughing
        1. Tusv
          Tusv 9 January 2016 22: 42 New
          0
          Quote: atalef
          But Pasaran ! (more precisely - freedom, equality, fraternity) - in Mali they speak French, but don’t ask for help from the paddles that have healed the Mistral

          A joke for Zadornov. They built developed socialism in the world, but forgot about themselves.
          So the Russians, so that there would be no war. Neither at you nor at our place.
          And if you vyzhivatsya, then get on the neck.
          Not really. Work is already dreaming, and there people are dying. Out of order
    2. andj61
      andj61 9 January 2016 21: 38 New
      +3
      Quote: atalef
      Where are you patriots of Switzerland and Luxembourg, at worst Monaco?
      Apparently class consciousness has not yet mastered the masses of decaying capitalism, in contrast to the advanced patriots of Mali

      Why is there Luxembourg and Monaco, it is better - where are you, patriots of Israel! fellow
      Greetings, Alexander! hi I’m afraid that after such appeals we will again begin to help another Negro cannibal. what After all, it was already in history - someone from Africa admits sympathy for socialism - and we immediately begin to help him. yes
      As if it weren’t the same now - they admitted sympathy for Russia, but with sooo great hope for disinterested help. Like that - what if it really helps with something? For demand, they don’t beat in the nose! bully
  • Nick
    Nick 9 January 2016 17: 40 New
    +3
    Quote: ALABAY45
    Here, only Mali doesn’t have enough for us! Let the UN resolve it, together with the 4 thousandth contingent of the French army ... soldier

    Yeah ... You can’t disperse forces.
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet 10 January 2016 11: 05 New
      0
      Quote: Nick
      Yeah ... You can’t disperse forces.

      And you can’t be suckers, who are constantly bred into grandmas! smile
  • Maxom75
    Maxom75 9 January 2016 20: 14 New
    +2
    In no case do not get involved, Europeans and Americans have opened a hornet's nest, so let them now drive the wasps themselves. We have nothing to do there.
  • upadeishev
    upadeishev 9 January 2016 21: 19 New
    0
    Obama will soon finish with America, so let him deal with part of his homeland !!! ...
  • Skif83
    Skif83 10 January 2016 09: 14 New
    0
    Well, only Mali, we don’t have enough

    I absolutely agree, no need to try to please everyone.
    You need to become strong yourself.
    We need to rebuild our economy, not a "menagerie", but a real one, to restore the social sphere, health care, education, but then, when everything is going well with us, we will see who and how to help.
    Well, certainly not for free ...
    And now, when the Twitter government is writhing under the oil needle, which managed to break (?), We certainly are not up to Mali ...
  • varov14
    varov14 10 January 2016 13: 28 New
    0
    You won’t hold our oligarchs at the petition. Zolotishko, diamonds, oil per barrel, what do petitioners have?
  • Dr. Bormental
    Dr. Bormental 9 January 2016 13: 39 New
    +8
    Maybe we should not? soldier
    1. MIKHAN
      MIKHAN 9 January 2016 15: 10 New
      +9
      Quote: Dr. Bormental
      Maybe we should not? soldier

      Now, if Mexico asked for help ... This option would solve a lot))) Nicaragua is silent for something .. (about the channel and the entry of our Navy)
  • sever.56
    sever.56 9 January 2016 13: 39 New
    15
    But this we do not need at all. Despite the fact that one can be grateful to the Malian people for so highly appreciating the role of Russia and Vladimir Putin in resolving the conflict in the Middle East, in particular in Syria, in Africa, despite the fact that we understand how hard it is there Now normal citizens, Russia has nothing to do. There’s not much you can achieve there by bombing, and we didn’t even go to the ground operation in Syria, despite the very good relations with it. Yes, we must remember how much money and other resources the USSR invested in the struggle for the liberation of the peoples of Africa from imperialism, and what an ingratitude it turned out to be.
    International forces, under the auspices of the UN, should clean up and those who unleashed this financial slaughter should invest financially and materially - the countries of the West, led by the United States.
    1. BARKHAN
      BARKHAN 9 January 2016 15: 27 New
      +6
      Quote: sever.56
      you can be grateful to the Malian people for the fact that they so highly value the role of Russia

      laughing Sounds cool ... A bear should be grateful to gophers for considering him a bear.
      Maybe I'm wrong, but the whole mess seems to be organized with the goal of self-liquidating the population of this region ... they are very fervently cutting each other ...
  • Lukich
    Lukich 9 January 2016 13: 41 New
    15
    God forbid to get in there stop there was still not enough to butt but it was not clear with whom and against whom. today they’re patriots and they’re calling, and tomorrow they’ll start shooting in the back
    1. Sorokin
      Sorokin 9 January 2016 14: 15 New
      +3
      But it’s even without question. They will argue with infection. Passed already with corn and sausage:
  • KAPITANUS
    KAPITANUS 9 January 2016 13: 41 New
    10
    In general, the idea of ​​Russia as the savior of the WORLD is very pleasing.
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 9 January 2016 13: 45 New
      +3
      Quote: KAPITANUS
      In general, the idea of ​​Russia as the savior of the WORLD is very pleasing.

      Yeah, especially the performance after Russia saves the world. wink
      1. ALABAY45
        ALABAY45 9 January 2016 13: 48 New
        +9
        The main thing is that, then, Russia is not obliged to be the NURSEY of the world saved ... recourse
      2. 34 region
        34 region 9 January 2016 17: 21 New
        +1
        And what! Always only America saves ?! Tired already this savior with the habits of a ripper. Maybe it's time to catch this rescuer in the neck?
  • Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 9 January 2016 13: 42 New
    10
    "Russia must save Mali ..."
    And have we already managed to owe this ?!
  • BLOND
    BLOND 9 January 2016 13: 42 New
    +4
    Of course not much ...
    But it’s nice ... the authority of Russia and GDP have grown! They called Putin, not a monkey and a phishington
  • MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 9 January 2016 13: 47 New
    +9
    “Russia must save Mali,” say African citizens

    We will save the world first (from whom everyone knows and why too), just like our grandfathers and great-grandfathers ... They do not live peacefully in Russia for a long time; ! We were surrounded around the perimeter! hi
    1. Jozhkin Cat
      Jozhkin Cat 9 January 2016 14: 37 New
      +2
      As a participant in the Patriotic War told me, for every Russian generation there will be a war, if not just one, be strong and prepare to stand for your Motherland, you have one.
      as he looked into the water, it is necessary to prepare.
  • Jozhkin Cat
    Jozhkin Cat 9 January 2016 13: 47 New
    +5
    and the faith itself does not allow the inhabitants to solve the problem, or what? We haven’t fought for blacks, this paragraph will finally be fool I'm not a chauvinist, but I need to know the measure.
    1. nagel_Oz
      nagel_Oz 9 January 2016 14: 09 New
      +3
      Straight off the tongue !! Such is their philosophy: feed, shred. And so it’s difficult for ourselves. fellow
    2. 34 region
      34 region 9 January 2016 17: 26 New
      +1
      We will not fight for blacks. They will fight for themselves. Why not? After all, in the rings they fight and nothing! And we will cheer for them, support, train, train.
  • Woodman
    Woodman 9 January 2016 13: 48 New
    +3
    Let us understand without us.
  • Lelek
    Lelek 9 January 2016 13: 48 New
    +4
    "Despite the presence in the country of the United Nations Stabilization Mission in Mali (MINUSMA), the French anti-terrorist operation Barkhan and the Algiers Agreement between the Government of Mali and the Tuareg rebels, the situation in the country remains unstable."

    How many years have the paddling pools been "pacifying" there under the UN mandate - more than 50? And we get into this blevontin - like a cigarette butt to a hare. Let the brave "jans" put things in order (probably for another half a century). bully
  • lis-ik
    lis-ik 9 January 2016 13: 49 New
    +3
    This is the result of the policy of Russia, as a lamp of universal values, I think this time we won’t lose the information war (unless agents of influence from the government pass to power), and about the request of active citizens of Mali, it is unlikely to even be considered, although in times USSR would help the working people. It would be better to clean up the internal situation, and as some regions write, they are already on the verge of boiling.
  • Great-grandfather of Zeus
    Great-grandfather of Zeus 9 January 2016 13: 52 New
    +6
    Now they will begin to take a turn for our salvation-Mali, Somalia, Libya, Yemen ...- and everyone urgently needs Putin, really! To clone you all, or what?
    1. pts-m
      pts-m 9 January 2016 14: 32 New
      +3
      not only Putin will have to be cloned, but also finances and equipment and human resources, and is this all who will pay? There is a UN. Here he, as the main high, disposes of.
    2. Lelek
      Lelek 9 January 2016 17: 54 New
      +2
      Quote: Great-grandfather of Zeus
      Now they will begin to take a turn for our salvation-Mali, Somalia, Libya, Yemen ...- and everyone urgently needs Putin, really! To clone you all, or what?


      All this mess in the Maghreb and BV was predicted by the torn USA and its mongrels M. Gaddafi. They did not listen to the old man, and now they are paying with their blood.
      (cry.)
  • izya top
    izya top 9 January 2016 13: 55 New
    +1
    in now the frogmen bomb bully
    1. evil partisan
      evil partisan 9 January 2016 21: 46 New
      0
      Quote: izya top
      now the frogmen bomb

      Flatulence? what Espumisan to the rescue. yes
      Sholom, the bomber! hi
  • Primus pilus
    Primus pilus 9 January 2016 13: 57 New
    +6
    We should at least save Syria. And let the patriots of Mali appeal to Ukraine’s strongest army in Europe.
  • Funnels
    Funnels 9 January 2016 13: 58 New
    +9
    Russia owes nothing to anyone!
    Soon: The appeal of the inhabitants of the Earth to GDP - Mr. President, save the world !!!
  • OlegV
    OlegV 9 January 2016 14: 00 New
    +1
    Quote: lis-ik
    It would be better to clean up the internal situation, and as some regions write, they are already on the verge of boiling.

    that's for sure who would help us ......
    already doctors of medicine beat patients with mortal combat,

    1. vovanpain
      vovanpain 9 January 2016 14: 10 New
      18
      Quote: OlegV
      that's for sure who would help us ......
      already doctors of medicine are killing patients with mortal combat

      According to investigators, on December 29, 2015, a patient was admitted to the hospital who, during one of the procedures, kicked a nurse. The doctor stood up for the paramedic and hit the patient in the face. The man fell. The cause of the death of the victim was a head injury from a blow from the back of the head to a hard surface of the floor. And what does Putin have to do with it? hi
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 9 January 2016 15: 08 New
        +1
        Now this "Aesculapius" will hone his skills on bunks for 10 years.
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 9 January 2016 16: 17 New
          +2
          Amendment, this doctor will receive up to 2 years for not premeditated murder.
      2. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 9 January 2016 15: 14 New
        +5
        Quote: vovanpain
        . The doctor stood up for the paramedic and hit the patient in the face. The man fell.

        You can see in the video how he hit his face and everything else. Do you mean that they don't beat me? The doctor did not know to see, and therefore finished off the second with particular pleasure.
        1. FIREMAN
          FIREMAN 9 January 2016 16: 29 New
          +8
          Vadim237 (1)
          Now this "Aesculapius" will hone his skills on bunks for 10 years.

          Article 109 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation "Causing death by negligence" up to 2 years l / s, clean water.
          Here is a confirmation for you:
          The suspect of the investigation chose a preventive measure in the form of a recognizance not to leave, since the crime provided for in Article 109 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation is categorized as minor and the sanction of the article punishes him with 2 years of imprisonment. http://www.metronews.ru/novosti/vrach-ubil-pacienta-v-belgorode-medrabotnik-byl-


          na-korporative-i-mog-byt-p-jan / Tpopai --- xAvIb7K0ZZnQ /

          And this is in the most difficult case, given that he is most likely not convicted, has positive characteristics at the place of work, most likely conditionally, or with a delay - the court decides.
          Alexander Romanov
          finished off the second with special pleasure.

          Yes, there is no pleasure here, the person has an adrenaline rush.
          There maybe two "tough" guys came drunk to the hospital and decided to shake the right, about the speed and quality of service. You yourself do not know how tipsy people behave? This does not detract from the doctor's "merits", you just need to understand thoroughly, one video recording does not solve anything, especially since it is not from the beginning of the situation (the reasons for the conflict).
          I can cite a case when the MS in boxing and his wife were returning home from a restaurant, the company of drunken men was bothered, the most important one started to swing with a knife. One hit and 1,5 meters into the ground, the boxer 3 years in a colony settlement, no one is safe from this.
          1. Saratoga833
            Saratoga833 9 January 2016 19: 27 New
            +2
            Quote: FIREMAN
            MS in boxing and his wife were returning home from the restaurant, the company of drunken people was bothered, the most important started to swing with the knife. One hit and 1,5 meters into the ground, the boxer 3 years in a colony settlement

            It only says that our judicial system is not aimed at real justice. For some reason, the principle of self-defense is not taken into account in any way, and for some reason the defender must assess the limits of the defense! And still worry if I hit this scum hard? After all, this scum has become attached to me with the "best intentions"!
            1. FIREMAN
              FIREMAN 9 January 2016 20: 11 New
              +5
              Forgive me, Alexander Romanov will answer Saratoge833.
              I agree with you, the fact is that it is extremely difficult to establish the standards of these limits, and the court evaluates the evidence solely on internal conviction. Yes, and the court does not establish justice, and the circumstances relevant to the case - no more.
              Here's the question for backfilling: you are armed with a pistol, a man armed with a knife is attacking you, you do not know his true intentions objectively - holidays, he is drunk on the board. At the same time, he is simply trying to hit you, for example, in the stomach, you shoot and hit him in a tubular bone or neck of the thigh - the result is disabled for life. It seems humanely shot his leg, and he has heavy bodily ones. How to compare possible damage from cold и firearms weapons? No way! It is simply believed that firearms are more dangerous. But this is from a technical point of view, and from the actual one, there are still a lot of circumstances: surprise, possession skills, strike zone, etc.
              At the same time, he will still scream that he was going around the corner to cut a snack, and here you are all so dangerous that he was scared. Laws work only within the framework of certain assumptions, but the paradox is that the law cannot explain all situations. Even the Romans said: every legal definition is fraught with danger.
              Well, something like this hi
        2. vovanpain
          vovanpain 9 January 2016 16: 37 New
          15
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          You can see in the video how he hit his face and everything else. Do you mean that they don't beat me? The doctor did not know to see, and therefore finished off the second with particular pleasure.

          Alexander, as the saying goes, has a double attitude, if the doctor says that the patient was drunk and kicked the nurse, all the same, of course, it’s not worth it to go wild, the doctor and the prosecution were hanged as a murder because of caution, I do not condone the doctor, I always need to think and not lose my head . Only this article is not about this and discussions are not about the doctor, you know, I’m just tired of reading comments on one topic in any article lately: who would help us, but how bad everything is, what kind of medicine, and you won’t walk a cat on the street we have to dodge cars, that's how bad we live. Dear Kamrada, if I offended anyone. I apologize for sure. but let's still comment on the article. hi hi
          1. theadenter
            theadenter 9 January 2016 18: 45 New
            +2
            I support. For discussions of third-party topics - it’s not just that they opened the forum.
        3. Kite
          Kite 9 January 2016 16: 49 New
          +2
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          The doctor did not know to see, and therefore finished off the second with particular pleasure.

          This is not boxing, this is another type of fights in the ring that has left its mark on the fighting style. But, I do not blame because I do not know the weight categories and qualifications of the "fighters". Maybe he should have kicked, or maybe a couple of slaps in the face with an open hand would have been enough.
    2. MIKHAN
      MIKHAN 9 January 2016 14: 37 New
      +7
      Quote: OlegV
      already doctors of medicine are killing patients with mortal combat

      And I’m 14 to go to the hospital ... (I can’t even run away on a crutch) ... But seriously, I understand the doctors (not all of course) ... As they just don’t have queues in huge ones, and their nerves can’t stand them ! hi
      1. not a Jew
        not a Jew 9 January 2016 14: 50 New
        -5
        Quote: MIKHAN
        Quote: OlegV
        already doctors of medicine are killing patients with mortal combat

        And I’m 14 to go to the hospital ... (I can’t even run away on a crutch) ... But seriously, I understand the doctors (not all of course) ... As they just don’t have queues in huge ones, and their nerves can’t stand them ! hi

        Mikhan, who fucked you up like that, Poles, Kazakhs, Jews, or imperial cognac for the New Year? laughing
        1. MIKHAN
          MIKHAN 9 January 2016 15: 32 New
          16
          Quote: not a Jew
          Mikhan, who fucked you up like that, Poles, Kazakhs, Jews, or imperial cognac for the New Year?

          I suspect a witch’s wife (she has Polish blood))))) ... Burdela before the new year, that I’ll leave for Bar again! I went to work in the morning (December 31), all thoughts about Russia (sober, which is the most offensive) Well, I arranged the ballet out of the blue practically .. then the mats are alone .. Here we sit together, smile at each other ... Beauty! laughing drinks
          1. Chak
            Chak 9 January 2016 17: 04 New
            +3
            MIKHAN, as I understand you))) The wife has a beautiful witch-beauty with Polish-Hutsul blood - hellish mixture, she hates Bandera - horror! Yes, and her grandmother had a healer good Well, recovery and successful on all fronts of the year! good
      2. Saratoga833
        Saratoga833 9 January 2016 19: 54 New
        +3
        The fact is that in our country the patient is protected from the doctor by many orders, orders and decrees, but the doctor is not protected from the patient by ANYTHING! And practically, in any situation, the doctor will be to blame (by the way, his head physician has already fired!).
        The legislation of the Scandinavian countries comes to mind that clearly states that even rudeness towards a doctor is extremely severely punished (up to imprisonment).
    3. Kite
      Kite 9 January 2016 16: 43 New
      +5
      A conversation about Mali from the same category as the US presidential election, V.V. Putin.
      А
      Quote: OlegV
      already doctors of medicine are killing patients with mortal combat

      - from the category - "I have not read, but I condemn"
      Or the video doesn’t show that one unfortunate push was enough for the little man to fall and not move anymore. The second got more and more powerful blows, but he dismissed. And you would not give in the face to the one who offended your colleague with you?
      1. BIGLESHIY
        BIGLESHIY 9 January 2016 17: 58 New
        +1
        Quote: Kite
        A conversation about Mali from the same category as the US presidential election, V.V. Putin.
        А
        Quote: OlegV
        already doctors of medicine are killing patients with mortal combat

        - from the category - "I have not read, but I condemn"
        Or the video doesn’t show that one unfortunate push was enough for the little man to fall and not move anymore. The second got more and more powerful blows, but he dismissed. And you would not give in the face to the one who offended your colleague with you?

        Did you pay attention to the conversation? The nurses said: "They tell him to lie still and he will kick him against the wall ..." there was no talk about the nurse, and the nurses themselves, when asked whether he was drunk or not, said that he was sober. Yes, and murder, and this is precisely the hospital management tried to hide. And the push was still not weak, and the second one flew in after, although the peasant was just standing.
  • 33 Watcher
    33 Watcher 9 January 2016 14: 00 New
    +2
    Well, not easier ..! We still lacked Africa.
  • 31rus
    31rus 9 January 2016 14: 01 New
    +3
    Dear, and Poroshenko simply demands UN peacekeepers, and the United States is now not in high esteem with democracy, it turns out that "evil" Putin is needed, these are only flowers soon and the EU will howl, give at least a regiment, otherwise the "refugees" are insolent, and multiculturalism does not allow to pacify and the USA only promises
  • individual
    individual 9 January 2016 14: 03 New
    +3
    In Africa, they realized that their NATO was not enough for any of this! am
  • alone
    alone 9 January 2016 14: 04 New
    +4
    Now a special commission has been created in Mali, which will try to collect millions of signatures in support of the 8 petition.


    It turns out interesting. Mali is a state with a population of 14 million people, it is going to put 8 million people under a petition. It seems to be a feasible task, but there is one tiny detail that the forum users did not notice and was delighted (mostly there are those who are not happy with it). Northern territories are controlled by separatists. Signature collection in these provinces is not possible. This is approximately minus 2-3 million people.
    Mali, the country is special. The population growth there is rapid. If in 2000 the population was 10,5 million people, then by 2010 they were 13,3 million. The average life expectancy is 52 years. In fact, in the current scenario, half the population, if no more are people who are not even 16 years old. There are 6,5-7 million people left. How they will collect 8 million is incomprehensible to the mind.

    Children under the age of 16 are not entitled to sign such documents. Nobody will accept this petition if the signatures of the children are there. And yet, Mali has long been a country that is in the sphere of interests of France. There is also the official language of France. Do you think France will do this? France easier to organize a coup and bring to power a loyal colonel
  • MIKHAN
    MIKHAN 9 January 2016 14: 06 New
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    UN peacekeepers are in the country, consisting of 11 thousand military personnel and 1,5 thousand police officers. In addition, a 4-strong contingent of the French army is based there.

    Well, what else can I say briefly and understandably men? am
    1. BARKHAN
      BARKHAN 9 January 2016 15: 40 New
      +3
      This is a masterpiece! We must remember ...
      Mikhan, but what happened to you with the title, maybe I missed something during the holidays ... Enlighten please, if this is not a secret of course ...
      I hope that this is not connected with crutches.
      1. MIKHAN
        MIKHAN 9 January 2016 16: 32 New
        +5
        Quote: Barkhan
        This is a masterpiece! We must remember ...
        Mikhan, but what happened to you with the title, maybe I missed something during the holidays ... Enlighten please, if this is not a secret of course ...
        I hope that this is not connected with crutches.

        No, well, in short ... I blabbed! laughing A lot of oil, well, the point "in" ... I swore, I'm trying to hold on ... (hard uff ..))
        1. BARKHAN
          BARKHAN 9 January 2016 19: 28 New
          +1
          Ponyatno.Derzhites. And in the "marshals" you will quickly be driven back, I in any case will try (within the rules of the site of course), because I think it is fair.
          We are not Europeans. We love humor. Who served in the army will understand me.
          Go Russia!!!
  • Bulrumeb
    Bulrumeb 9 January 2016 14: 07 New
    +3
    Only Mali was still not enough for us, we found Chip and Dale.
  • vobels
    vobels 9 January 2016 14: 09 New
    +3
    For confidence in Russia, of course, it’s nice. But .. Internationals and custodians what are they doing, or continue to maintain instability?
  • Andryukha G
    Andryukha G 9 January 2016 14: 13 New
    +1
    Perhaps these souls are pure impulses, Russia will not be able to drag it anywhere else.
  • Tusv
    Tusv 9 January 2016 14: 25 New
    +3
    The politics of the old woman Shopoklyak: "He who helps people, he is wasting his time" - is again defeated. Everyone needs help from Russia. Real and not showy.
  • APASUS
    APASUS 9 January 2016 14: 28 New
    +3
    This is a former French colony, where the French have ruled since the end of the XNUMXth century, and what kind of Mali do we need? At the same time, we immediately run into contradictions with one of the NATO members. It is necessary to write an appeal to SUPER PRESIDENT Oland - he will ruin everything!
  • SanchoPingo
    SanchoPingo 9 January 2016 14: 31 New
    0
    Let them hold the referendum - you look - our Mali !!! wink
  • Panabebis
    Panabebis 9 January 2016 14: 42 New
    -9
    Russia must save Mali

    Russia is not able to save Ukraine, but you are here with your Mali!
  • bashkort
    bashkort 9 January 2016 14: 46 New
    +1
    Quote: Vladimirets
    Quote: Dr. Bormental
    Is Mali the new name for Square?

    No, ancient, now they are so named again so that no one would blame the zrad. yes

    You do not know, or what? I am surprised at you! The same ancient Ukrainians came up with palm trees, launched crocodiles into the rivers of Africa and poured sand into the Sahara. According to rumors, even penguins collect votes for a petition to invite the GDP to help with the lawlessness of skuas.
  • VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 9 January 2016 14: 46 New
    +5
    Guys, you really like something yourself! When the USSR did not know where the grandmother disappeared, but have a conscience! Then the Slav brothers can’t give birth in any way to Russia, toli with EUsia? wassat
  • 76rtbr
    76rtbr 9 January 2016 14: 48 New
    +3
    damn it, enough already to help everyone, at home you need to put things in order, some on the highway almost froze, another in Belgorod was cured of one blow, and so on and so on !!
  • vic58
    vic58 9 January 2016 14: 53 New
    +3
    Do we need it? Correct pension money and education to send! So that it would not be shameful for the future ...
    And so there is a "black macaque" with a glass of coffee ... let it help hi
  • LÄRZ
    LÄRZ 9 January 2016 14: 56 New
    +6
    By no means, why not help if they ask, according to the scheme: Russian brains, Malian arms and legs. We have enough professionals, offer them: "Guys! There is a hack, we need to" sort out "the Malian problem. And so "Itself, itself, itself". And about the 50-year-old French "razrulivanie": "Who wants to solve the problem, he decides it, who does not want, he is looking for excuses" VI Lenin.
  • Babayka
    Babayka 9 January 2016 14: 56 New
    +4
    This suggests that no one else is trusted. Salvation is seen only in Russia.
  • Siberia 9444
    Siberia 9444 9 January 2016 15: 00 New
    +1
    This world is crazy wassat
  • ALEA IACTA EST
    ALEA IACTA EST 9 January 2016 15: 10 New
    +2
    Syria is flaming with might and main, Donbass is ominously smoldering, it is impossible to extinguish three fires at the same time physically.
  • Alexander 67
    Alexander 67 9 January 2016 15: 11 New
    +4
    Glory to Thee, Lord, that we have a sane President. You can blame Putin for anything. But there is hardly any reason to consider him crazy. To get involved in such a "snake ball" of reasons and contradictions can only be complete! For France it is a vital interest. Tuaregs, who by the way have always lived on those lands. And now their brothers from the territory of Libya have pulled up. Everything would be fine if it were not for the proven reserves of uranium in the lands of the Tuareg. For France, which has almost 18%. share of nuclear power, uranium is needed.
  • midshipman
    midshipman 9 January 2016 15: 19 New
    +4
    Dear Sergey, in the first comment clearly defined the opinion of the Russian people. In general, it is a pity for the inhabitants of Mali.
    I had to participate in the resolution of the conflict in Congo. But then our country was different and specially trained Cubans helped us. Equipped with my participation and our enterprises, the Mekong and Quito airfields deployed our fighters, attack aircraft and army helicopters. The operation was completed quickly, and the Cuban pilots showed their superiority. There I met Raul Castro.
    But the country broke up and our efforts were in vain. And there pilots and sailors learned to fight. I have the honor.
  • MIKHALYCH1
    MIKHALYCH1 9 January 2016 15: 22 New
    +8
    We would have to save "our brothers" ... Otherwise, they definitely have Mali-Somalia there (UN peacekeepers are already being called)))
  • Leader
    Leader 9 January 2016 15: 27 New
    +5
    Russia must save Mali, say the citizens of the African country.

    Generally fucked up! Russia owes nothing to anyone !!!
    It is you who ask, we must first like it - in order to ask for something! For example, recognize Abkhazia and the Transnistrian republic, support the UN at the vote ... - and then ask.
    But do not demand!
  • olegkrava
    olegkrava 9 January 2016 15: 38 New
    +5
    Quote: ALABAY45
    “Russia must save Mali,” say citizens of an African country. “The authorities do not control the situation and cannot overcome the growing uncertainty.” Therefore, according to patriots, “Putin should intervene in the Mali crisis”.

    I look in the world Russia owes everything, and who owes Russia? When Russia says do not do this, then all do not care, and as soon as the mess begins, so Russia should. Go to Geyropa, you listened to it and galloped, let it help you to bend further, and Russia has put marotory on you and your countries with your tolerant dermocracy. Yes, and far away. We would have our hoppers, beggars, and liberals u_ to rest and lay out where necessary.
  • atamankko
    atamankko 9 January 2016 16: 47 New
    +3
    Our guys will fight, and the Mali patriots collect signatures ...,
    doesn’t go, clean up your own house, and help with advice.
    1. Sergey Vladimirovich
      Sergey Vladimirovich 9 January 2016 17: 09 New
      +5
      Exactly good
      .... somewhere I have already seen it ... The middle of the 80s, an earthquake in Armenia, on TV the news shows another report from the scene of the tragedy - Armenian "aksakals" in front of the cameras tell how bad they are, how they have lost everything, how hard ... sleek, with bellies ... And in the background the rubble is being taken apart - the soldiers of the USSR Armed Forces and the women ... And it's hard for them ...
  • Sergey Vladimirovich
    Sergey Vladimirovich 9 January 2016 17: 00 New
    +3
    “Russia must save Mali,” say African citizens.


    Now it is necessary for the "citizens of the African country" to work the brakes during the time and they still learn for themselves that Russia DOES NOT OWN ANYTHING to them !!! And that strange manner of asking for help lately ... And where is the magic word ??? The tone of the request, at least ... No shit - a request! MUST!!!
    In general, the word "help", for some reason, was perceived by the overwhelming majority as "to do for them" ...
  • valokordin
    valokordin 9 January 2016 17: 07 New
    +2
    If there was a USSR, we would restore order there and we would have allies, and so if yes, if yes, mushrooms would grow in the mouth. Enough for us and Syria with Ukraine. We can provide moral assistance, and let Napoleon-Oland disintegrate this mess for what its predecessor SyrKazi did, bombing Libya to hide a bribe to his election campaign from Muammar.
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet 10 January 2016 11: 25 New
      0
      Quote: valokordin
      If there was a USSR, we would restore order there and we would have allies,

      The USSR in due time threw a lot of money there, and what, where are they "allies"?
  • Chak
    Chak 9 January 2016 17: 10 New
    +7
    Something Vladimir Vladimirovich Africa has closed, I do not see what's with Mali ... bully
  • olimpiada15
    olimpiada15 9 January 2016 17: 16 New
    +1
    Quote: NEXUS
    Quote: MIKHAN
    Already take off ...!

    We would have to deal with Syria ... and Iraq, Afghanistan and Yemen are next in turn. This line does not end. We are fixing up a mess for mattresses.

    Precisely noticed.
    Only a conclusion suggests itself: in order to make the queue shorter, you need to start with mattress covers, and there will not be a queue, everyone will be able to figure it out without the hegemon’s intervention and no one will need help.
  • dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 9 January 2016 17: 17 New
    +3
    It seems that the whole African continent can be helped. There is ruin and lawlessness everywhere. Just don’t dismiss those who ask. You always need to help if the request of the suffering person or people is sincere. The question is. It’s easiest to give a fishing rod.
  • BNM
    BNM 9 January 2016 17: 22 New
    +3
    the moment will come when everyone will crawl to Putin is just a matter of time yes
    1. yuriy55
      yuriy55 9 January 2016 18: 15 New
      +3
      Quote: BNM
      ... when everyone crawls to Putin ...


      I don’t even know how to match:

      VANGA ABOUT RUSSIA (Bulgaria)

      This was said by Wanga (1911 - 1997) at the height of the Brezhnev era, in 1979. “In six years, the world will begin to change drastically ... The old leaders will leave. New ones will come. “Many new people will be born in Russia who will be able to change the world.”
      She spoke about Russia's proximity to cosmic energy, and that thanks to a powerful spiritual upsurge, Russia will reborn. “She will sweep away all the obstacles in her path and not only survive, but also become the ruler of the world ... All religions will fall. Only one thing remains: the Teaching of the Great Brotherhood. Like a pure flower, it will cover the Earth, and thanks to this, people will be saved. But this will not happen right away. The day will come, and all religions will disappear! Only the teaching of the Forces of Light will remain ... It is as if it will cover the earth with white color, and thanks to it people will be saved. New Teaching will come from Russia. She is the first to be cleaned. It will begin in 20 years ..."(The prediction was given by Wanga in 1979). With a certain solemnity in her voice, Vanga repeatedly repeated: "A new man under the sign of the New Doctrine will come from Russia." Her last prophecy regarding Russia: (outlined a large circle with her hands): "Russia will again become a great empire, above all, an empire of the spirit."

      ***
      All eyes are on Russia. “REVIVAL OF RUSSIA IS A REVIVAL OF THE WHOLE WORLD. THE DESTRUCTION OF RUSSIA IS THE DESTRUCTION OF THE WHOLE WORLD. ” DEDICATED ALL OVER THE WORLD WAIT FOR THE SUNNY IDEA OF RUSSIA.

      what
  • v.yegorov
    v.yegorov 9 January 2016 17: 28 New
    +1
    The trend, however.