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Media: American rocket after exercises in Europe was mistakenly returned to Cuba

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The American air-to-surface Hellfire rocket (hellfire), sent without a warhead to 2014 in Spain for NATO maneuvers, was mistakenly returned to Cuba, not to the United States, RIA News Post by the Wall Street Journal.


Layout rocket Hellfire II.

At the end of the exercise, “the packaged ammunition arrived at the airport in Frankfurt, Germany, from where, for an unclear reason, the rocket was flown to Paris and loaded onto an Air France plane that departed for Havana,” the newspaper writes.

“Was it a bribe? Was it an intelligence service operation or just a series of mistakes? We are trying to figure this out, "
said the publication representative of the presidential administration.

The newspaper, citing competent sources, reports that the US administration "unsuccessfully tried to return the missile after a year of warming diplomatic relations with Cuba."

The interlocutors noted that the loss of ammunition "may mean the leakage of sensitive military technology."
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  1. fox21h
    fox21h 8 January 2016 12: 43 New
    81
    Yes, no, all by chance, this is pure chance)))
    Congratulations to the Foreign Intelligence Service laughing
    1. Finches
      Finches 8 January 2016 12: 53 New
      129
      Did the Americans use the services of the Russian Post or something ...? laughing
      1. cniza
        cniza 8 January 2016 12: 56 New
        36
        There are no such accidents, everyone has their own "logistics".
        1. Sasha 19871987
          Sasha 19871987 8 January 2016 13: 15 New
          +7
          here everything is according to Zadorny-NU DUPLE !!!
          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana 8 January 2016 13: 50 New
            13
            From the text of the article
            An American air-to-surface Hellfire (Hellfire) rocket, sent without a warhead to 2014 to Spain for NATO maneuvers, was mistakenly returned not to the United States, but to Cuba.
            At the end of the exercises, “the packaged ammunition turned out to be at the airport of german frankfurtfrom where, for an unexplained reason, a rocket delivered to Paris and loaded onto an Air France airplane that took off to Havana

            With exactly the same “mistake”, NATO missiles will someday appear in the DIASH group. And then Westerners will provocatively say that Russia allegedly provided them with them.
            It seems like a provocation of the western intelligence services.
            1. Talgat
              Talgat 8 January 2016 17: 35 New
              20
              Hellfire is an advanced thing, and even if the RF has non-inferior counterparts. all the same, the technologies there are secret and very interesting to both Russia and China

              Therefore, I doubt that these are Western services - nobody gives such gifts to anyone
              Or a really stupid mistake, or still intelligence services of US opponents

              It is easy to guess who will get access to the missile from Cuba - first of all, it is China, then Russia, of course, and Iran - the third friend of the Bolivarians

              Earlier, if you remember, Iran "planted" US drones (probably using Russian means)
              Iran did not hesitate immediately announced openly that it would provide access to technology to China and Russia
              1. Professor
                Professor 8 January 2016 18: 01 New
                14
                Quote: Talgat
                Hellfire is an advanced thing, and even if the RF has non-inferior counterparts. all the same, the technologies there are secret and very interesting to both Russia and China

                1. Nobody put technology in a suitcase, just a sample. explain the difference?
                2. Helfair in service with 1970's, exported to 4 of a dozen countries, used by thousands in dozens of conflicts and clashes. In your sample Helfire still not been in Russia? lol

                Quote: Talgat
                Earlier, if you remember, Iran "planted" US drones (probably using Russian means)
                Iran did not hesitate immediately announced openly that it would provide access to technology to China and Russia

                Teach materiel who, where and what planted.
                1. cap
                  cap 8 January 2016 20: 45 New
                  14
                  Quote: Professor
                  Teach materiel who, where and what planted.



                  "Iranian experts did not waste time and created their drone based on the American drone. Political analyst Kawe Afrasiab told RT why Tehran is an important achievement.

                  The Iranian military published a video recording the successful flight of a high-tech drone. It is a copy of a reconnaissance aircraft designed by the United States and intercepted by Iran three years ago. The Lockheed Martin Sentinel drone was a secret development used by the CIA.

                  A total of 20 such devices were produced; their technical characteristics are strictly classified. It is only known that drones are equipped with advanced technologies that impede their detection and allow them to detect the smallest nuclear activity on earth. Barack Obama expected the Iranians to return the captured drone, but Tehran refused the Americans this request. Earlier we talked with political scientist Cave Afrasiabi. He believes that the development of stealth technologies in the field of air defense is a significant achievement for Iran.
                  “Against the backdrop of US attempts to use the negotiations on the nuclear program as a lever of pressure on Iran, the development of stealth technologies has become an important and impressive achievement for Tehran. They will allow you to track the movement of missiles in the region, in particular in the Persian Gulf, as well as reflect radar signals and break through air defense systems. I think the United States will have to come to terms with this and recognize that Iran is a country that has drones, and we need to take it seriously, ”says Afrasiabi.
                  As a result, the Americans still managed to get a drone - a toy, pink. One children's store in Iran decided to make a joke by sending it to the White House. " bully
                  http://nnm.me/blogs/genav/iran-sozdal-bespilotnik-na-baze-perehvachennogo-amerik
                  anskogo-drona /
                  1. Professor
                    Professor 8 January 2016 20: 50 New
                    -16
                    Quote: cap
                    The Iranian military published a video recording the successful flight of a high-tech drone. It is a copy of a reconnaissance aircraft designed by the United States and intercepted by Iran three years ago. The Lockheed Martin Sentinel drone was a secret development used by the CIA.

                    Oh, I remember how they (the Islamic state of Iran) video showed the flight of their fifth generation fighter. And a video of a monkey flying into space. laughing

                    Quote: cap
                    A total of 20 such devices were produced; their technical characteristics are strictly classified. It is only known that drones are equipped with advanced technologies that prevent their detection and allow them to detect the smallest nuclear activity on earth.

                    Did they plant technology too? Was there a flash drive with a drone manufacturing process?

                    Quote: cap
                    I think the United States will have to come to terms with this and recognize that Iran is a country that has drones, and we need to take it seriously, ”says Afrasiabi.

                    The Persians (the Islamic state of Iran) were repeatedly caught in a lie. Photoshop and show-offs are their main weapon.

                    Tell us how Carpool planted a drone. I have not heard a story for a long time. Missed you. wink
                    1. oxotnuk86
                      oxotnuk86 9 January 2016 06: 39 New
                      +3
                      Please convince the mattresses of this, that the Iranians in this garbage will not understand anything.
                    2. cap
                      cap 9 January 2016 09: 40 New
                      +4
                      Quote: Professor
                      Tell us how Carpool planted a drone. I have not heard a story for a long time. Missed you. wink


                      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaQQ33THVPY

                      If it’s very interesting, go to the specified link hi
                      Obama claims that he would return an intelligence drone in place of the Iranians. laughing The joker however.
                      1. Professor
                        Professor 9 January 2016 10: 32 New
                        -7
                        Quote: cap
                        If it’s very interesting, go to the specified link

                        The link is broken. However, focus on how the Carpool station is implementing passive the search for radiating targets in a uniform circular rotation of the antenna system could plant something. wink


                        - December 2011, 05 - the Fightglobal website is circulating in the media that using the Russian complex of executive RTR Avtobaza, Iranian air defense landed an American RQ-170 Sentinel UAV. Given the fact that the very fact of landing or shooting down UAVs has not been confirmed and there is a chance of an accident due to loss of control without external influence, this information seems to us to be untrue and exceeding even theoretically the potential capabilities of AvtoBaza.
                        1L222 Carpool
                      2. Lex.
                        Lex. 9 January 2016 13: 46 New
                        +4
                        Do not disgrace the professor, Alexander Alesin, a military expert, quite said that Iran planted this TANK
                      3. Professor
                        Professor 9 January 2016 15: 23 New
                        -2
                        Quote: Lex.
                        Do not disgrace professor

                        Young man, poke your parents, and with me I will ask you. We did not graze geese in the same meadow.

                        Quote: Lex.
                        , Alexander Alesin, a military expert, quite said that Iran planted this TANK

                        And how did this “military expert” fully explain how the Islamic state of Iran planted a drone?
                      4. Lex.
                        Lex. 9 January 2016 18: 15 New
                        +5
                        Actually, I'm not a young man. Secondly, in Israel, even children speak to you.
                      5. Professor
                        Professor 9 January 2016 18: 26 New
                        0
                        Quote: Lex.
                        Actually, I'm not a young man. Secondly, in Israel, even children speak to you.

                        1. Glad for you.
                        2. We will communicate in Hebrew, go to the "you", but for now, we communicate on the great and powerful, let's comply with its norms.
                        3. What about the "expert" account? How does he explain all this?
                      6. Scraptor
                        Scraptor 20 January 2016 11: 09 New
                        +1
                        In "you" in English communicate there "you" are not. laughing

                        Professor, did you get out the very first night after Christmas? Telvizor Russian means we don’t look, and Russian-language sites - always please? bully
                    3. andrewkor
                      andrewkor 10 January 2016 11: 06 New
                      +2
                      First, follow the UN resolution already in 1948 on the formation of an Arab state in Palestine and live peacefully with your neighbors!
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        1. Bayonet
          Bayonet 8 January 2016 21: 15 New
          -1
          Quote: Tatiana
          DIASH fighters

          For what reasons, if not secret, hi Have you renamed DAISH to DIASH?
          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana 9 January 2016 02: 47 New
            +3
            laughing Ha! The typo is out! In the form of a "bounce" fool
            Thank you, dear Bayonet, for what you noticed - and warned! love
            And then I relaxed something with my brains and, in my opinion, everywhere I started to spy DIASH instead of DAYISH. lol
          2. Aljavad
            Aljavad 10 January 2016 22: 37 New
            0
            Quote: Tatiana
            DIASH fighters
            For what reasons, if not secret, hi did you rename Daesh into Diash?


            DIASH - Brazilian drug-separatists! am
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      4. Aleksey_K
        Aleksey_K 8 January 2016 22: 06 New
        +3
        Quote: Professor
        2. Helfair in service with 1970's, exported to 4 of a dozen countries, used by thousands in dozens of conflicts and clashes. In your sample Helfire still not been in Russia?

        And I agree with you. Moreover, such a transfer could be misinformation, for example for Russia. Those. they sent an improper missile to Russia so that, for example, the guidance system of a real missile could not be extinguished by Russian electronic warfare systems.
        1. 72jora72
          72jora72 9 January 2016 00: 14 New
          +3
          And I agree with you. Moreover, such a transfer could be misinformation, for example for Russia. Those. they sent an improper missile to Russia so that, for example, the guidance system of a real missile could not be extinguished by Russian electronic warfare systems.
          You hold our specialists for idiots?
        2. Professor
          Professor 9 January 2016 07: 55 New
          +1
          Quote: Алексей_К
          so that, for example, the guidance system of a real missile could not be extinguished by Russian electronic warfare systems.

          Which EW? The missile is guided by a laser beam. Will you put jammers?

          By the way, Helfire is not from the word hel (hell), but from the word helicopter (helicopter). Original title Helicopter Launched, Fire and Forget Missile
          1. DobryAAH
            DobryAAH 9 January 2016 12: 49 New
            +1
            an American air-to-surface missile with a semi-active laser or active radar guidance (embodying the principle of "shot and forgot").

            Two types of guidance. Radar can simply be scored or tricked. And the laser, to score from the same side with a more powerful beam, and if the control coding is known, then send it to where you need it, but this is already more difficult.
          2. Aleksey_K
            Aleksey_K 9 January 2016 21: 43 New
            +2
            Quote: Professor
            Which EW? The missile is guided by a laser beam. Will you put jammers?

            You forget that the control system on the plane is computer. If the computer does not work, then the rocket does not see anything. Some will say that he launched a rocket and forgot, so first you need to launch it. And this is the activation of the rocket and its electronic filling, the computer does not work - nothing works. In addition, the missile guidance head itself is still electronics, which can also be disabled in the same way, and then all the lasers and homing heads are electronic scrap.
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      5. Lex.
        Lex. 9 January 2016 18: 22 New
        +3
        http://inosmi.ru/asia/20111215/180397502.html
        And here is the professor and the reference
        1. Professor
          Professor 9 January 2016 18: 34 New
          -3
          Quote: Lex.
          And here is the professor and the reference

          Not only that - it is clear that he received almost no external damage.
          False. The drone was seriously damaged. Its bottom was carefully hidden by the Islamic state from the eyes of the public, and its wings were glued.

          In the simplest version, they can simply be jammed with interference.
          Rave. No one has ever succeeded.

          A more sophisticated option is to crack an encrypted signal transmitted from ground stations to unmanned vehicle control systems. After which it is drowned out and transmitted to the drone by new teams, already from its ground source.
          I didn’t read further. I thought there would be an “expert” talking about the Auto Base, but here is babble. fool
      6. Aljavad
        Aljavad 10 January 2016 22: 32 New
        +2
        Nobody put technology in a suitcase, just a sample. explain the difference?


        AIM-9, the Chinese also presented us without a “suitcase”. So what? K-13 did ...

        "... The discovered specimen of the missile did not contain explosives. Nevertheless, US military officials fear that Cuban experts opened the" stuffing "of the ammunition and got acquainted with the sensor system and the" wired "targeting technology (target selection - approx." Tape. Ru "). Washington is afraid of Havana transferring this knowledge to China, North Korea or Russia ..."

        "... The Pentagon fears that Cuba may transmit information about rocket sensors to Russia, China or North Korea ..."

        "... The ammunition was developed 10 years ago, but has undergone several upgrades since then ..."

        Our anti-tank systems, at least, are no worse, but it’s always useful to keep abreast of “world trends”. Fingers to joke, and say ...
        1. Professor
          Professor 11 January 2016 07: 41 New
          -1
          Quote: Aljavad
          AIM-9, the Chinese also presented us without a “suitcase”. So what? K-13 did ...

          You hold the iPhone in your hands, try copying. Or copy BMW. wink

          Quote: Aljavad
          Our anti-tank systems, at least, are no worse, but it’s always useful to keep abreast of “world trends”. Fingers to joke, and say ...

          No worse, only a generation behind.
    2. 2s1122
      2s1122 8 January 2016 18: 42 New
      +2
      Evidently the French decided to slowly take revenge on the Mistals for the Mistals. laughing
    3. Suhow
      Suhow 9 January 2016 14: 41 New
      0
      if the error of the services is not bad, it saves money on research, etc., the main thing is that this technology does not turn out to be a dead end, specially thrown up. Time and resources will be spent, smart people are distracted from projects.
  2. Arkon
    Arkon 8 January 2016 20: 08 New
    +3
    Quote: Tatiana
    It seems like a provocation of the western intelligence services.


    I totally agree. Or the preparation of a legend or technological "disa".
    But, in any case, this is just additional information.
    It is important how they dispose of it.
    1. Tatyana
      Tatyana 8 January 2016 21: 06 New
      +2
      Arkon
      Tatyana
      It seems like a provocation of the western intelligence services.
      I totally agree. Or the preparation of a legend or technological "disa".

      I had in mind the provocation of the Western special services of the following kind.
      To remove the guilt for the provision of high-tech weapons in the future, for example, for DIASH, a precedent has been created for the fact that the high-tech weapons of NATO countries, in principle, in a multi-way way of deliveries and dispatches, can "accidentally" get to the wrong place - without VINYA and INTENTION of the owners themselves.
      And it’s not necessary that it will be this particular American air-to-surface Hellfire rocket (“hellfire”). We can talk about everything, about anything - even about the atomic bomb!
      It is noteworthy that the DIASH fighters are asking and trying to get just such weapons for themselves. Probably, they will have it soon.
      1. Arkon
        Arkon 8 January 2016 21: 21 New
        0
        This is the legend. One of the options.
      2. Roman 57 rus
        Roman 57 rus 9 January 2016 17: 21 New
        +1
        Exactly, and an article recently was about what the Islamists began to make rockets ...
  • Sid.74
    Sid.74 8 January 2016 13: 27 New
    +7
    Quote: cniza
    There are no such accidents, everyone has their own "logistics".

    Is this not the logistics that anthrax spores and strains of the Ebola virus sent around the world that year, mistakenly of course .... smile
    1. Pereira
      Pereira 8 January 2016 14: 11 New
      +3
      Similar style.
      If there is a third newsletter, this is already a system. Or maybe we just don’t know about all such letters?
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  • Junior, I
    Junior, I 8 January 2016 14: 14 New
    0
    Ah, but the logistics turned out to be our man)))))!
  • Genur
    Genur 8 January 2016 15: 13 New
    0
    THIS happens when Laziness to THINK ...
    Or letters forgot ...
  • Blondy
    Blondy 11 January 2016 02: 37 New
    0
    Of course, for a long time already, everywere is USA logistics for this - hence the overlays. Remember at least the recent pentagon shipment of anthrax to Japan.
  • Kunar
    Kunar 11 January 2016 07: 57 New
    +1
    Glory to the SVR! In the best traditions)))))
  • vovanpain
    vovanpain 8 January 2016 13: 06 New
    27
    Today I already wrote about this in the comments, so I won’t repeat it, but doubts torment me. Both news came out on the same day, the rocket ended up in Cuba in 2014. It’s already 2016, Rogozin made several visits to Cuba in 2014-2015. At the same time, Baran Obama announces a thaw in relations with Cuba. The bell opens like a casket, but this is only my private opinion, but I think that we have already studied this infernal fire from all angles. hi
  • Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 8 January 2016 13: 08 New
    40
    Quote: Finches
    Did the Americans use the services of the Russian Post or something ...? laughing

    yes
    1. evil partisan
      evil partisan 8 January 2016 13: 46 New
      11
      I will give am -Not everything is lost! I regularly use Russian Post yes . No complaints !! And the fact that they do not have Rezh on the map is not their problem! Receive shipments at our Main Post Office and no problems!
      Hi spiteful! drinks
      1. kil 31
        kil 31 8 January 2016 13: 53 New
        +3
        Quote: wicked partisan
        I will give am -Not everything is lost! I regularly use Russian Post yes . No complaints !! And the fact that they do not have Rezh on the map is not their problem! Receive shipments at our Main Post Office and no problems!
        Hi spiteful! drinks

        I have no complaints in Asbest. But still a week long. Although it happens 4 days. hi
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        5. evil partisan
          evil partisan 8 January 2016 20: 14 New
          +1
          Quote: Kil 31
          still a week long.

          In our country, the speed of any process (including delivery) is inversely proportional to its size. yes
      2. Weyland
        Weyland 8 January 2016 14: 28 New
        +2
        Quote: wicked partisan
        Hello spiteful


        Maybe you and delivery speed arranges?
        1. evil partisan
          evil partisan 8 January 2016 19: 14 New
          +2
          Quote: Weyland
          delivery speed satisfied?

          And I myself rarely rush to where winked At the moment, I expect a keyboard from Torzhok. I hope it does not turn sour until it arrives ...
      3. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 8 January 2016 14: 32 New
        +4
        Quote: wicked partisan
        I will give
        fuck me man, and even old ... without you, there is someone to console me ... tongue hello ... kindness ... drinks
      4. ALABAY45
        ALABAY45 8 January 2016 14: 36 New
        +6
        "Russian Post" - "And, let the whole world wait!"
        Russian Post - “We invented dried fruits!”
        This is how you are going to send a smoked moose tongue to a friend, but there’s no alternative! I will not take risks, I will eat myself, choking and wailing ... repeat
        1. Andrey Yuryevich
          Andrey Yuryevich 8 January 2016 14: 42 New
          0
          Quote: ALABAY45
          "Russian Post" - "And, let the whole world wait!"
          Russian Post - “We invented dried fruits!”

          laughing
          Quote: ALABAY45
          This is how you are going to send a smoked moose tongue to a friend, but there’s no alternative! I will not take risks, I will eat myself, choking and wailing ...

          and there is no smoked halibut? one friend asked ... if something at the General Post Office send him ... yes lol
          1. evil partisan
            evil partisan 8 January 2016 19: 20 New
            +1
            Quote: ALABAY45
            smoked moose tongue

            Quote: Andrew Y.
            smoked halibut

            sad
            I disavow everyone! am
            And especially sophisticated is the one who constantly plunders our natural resources. Since the appeal to the hunting and fish inspections of the city of Khantymansiysk did not give a result, I go higher. Get ready to Kollleg wink . Well, or prepare the package repeat .
            Hello poacher! drinks
            1. Andrey Yuryevich
              Andrey Yuryevich 9 January 2016 18: 51 New
              +1
              eh ... what can I say .. if I am a "poacher", then who else? I didn’t dunk a fishing rod ... recourse I’ll go to PenZia- bury the minnows! am
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  • NIKNN
    NIKNN 8 January 2016 13: 56 New
    10
    Quote: Finches
    Did the Americans use the services of the Russian Post or something ...? laughing

    We knew everything about this missile .... but the improvements in the GOS are actually a secret. I can’t be an expert on this type of missile, but based on the Sidewinder and Sparrow, each modification has a really significant secret. Judging by the fact that when it was lost, today it is not relevant, only talk at the political level ... request
  • Lukich
    Lukich 8 January 2016 13: 57 New
    +5
    Quote: Finches
    Did the Americans use the services of the Russian Post or something ...?

    judging by the confusion and inability to find the extreme, the postal office tried its best. but they don’t recognize ...
  • Extraneous
    Extraneous 8 January 2016 14: 07 New
    +5
    Americans very often use civil aviation and navy for insignificant transportation between Europe and America. So cheaper. It is enough for some of the emigrants at the cargo terminal to misunderstand what is written on the tag to the cargo - and travel around the earth is provided. In the West, a gigantic business is built on the hammer sale of lost goods and luggage. So the story of a missile that got in the wrong place is quite normal for their cargo transportation.
  • Old Schweik
    Old Schweik 8 January 2016 14: 27 New
    +4
    I have a package from China for the fourth month on the road. God forbid, nevertheless, he will come, it’s scary to go to the post office, to receive. belay
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 8 January 2016 14: 35 New
      +3
      Quote: Old Schweik
      I have a package from China for the fourth month on the road. God forbid, nevertheless, he will come, it’s scary to go to the post office, to receive. belay

      if only, they passed it from hand to hand along the chain — they would have delivered it ... yes
    2. Bayonet
      Bayonet 8 January 2016 18: 34 New
      0
      Quote: Old Schweik
      I have a package from China for the fourth month on the road.

      All the train is gone hi after the order comes a confirmation of shipment indicating the deadline after which you can submit a claim and receive a refund. After 4 months, perhaps you can forget about your denyuzhku!
    3. Aleksey_K
      Aleksey_K 8 January 2016 22: 16 New
      0
      Quote: Old Schweik
      I have a package from China for the fourth month on the road. God forbid, nevertheless, he will come, it’s scary to go to the post office, to receive. belay

      On the Aliexpress website there is such a thing as a timer. There are several of them. In the simplest case, when the user does not follow the timer for receiving the parcel and the deadline for receipt has passed, then it’s useless for you to wait and they won’t even return the money. In addition, there is the concept of sellers on Aliexpress. So, some sellers profit from this, i.e. hack (cheat).
      1. Aleksey_K
        Aleksey_K 9 January 2016 21: 50 New
        +2
        Quote: Алексей_К
        Quote: Old Schweik
        I have a package from China for the fourth month on the road. God forbid, nevertheless, he will come, it’s scary to go to the post office, to receive. belay

        On the Aliexpress website there is such a thing as a timer. There are several of them. In the simplest case, when the user does not follow the timer for receiving the parcel and the deadline for receipt has passed, then it’s useless for you to wait and they won’t even return the money. In addition, there is the concept of sellers on Aliexpress. So, some sellers profit from this, i.e. hack (cheat).

        I briefly told you what mistakes you do not need to make when ordering on Aliexpress, and they instructed me the cons for this. What kind of viciousness do some readers have on Military Review?
  • The black
    The black 8 January 2016 17: 16 New
    +5
    Maybe they and the Koreans mistakenly sent a hydrogen bomb? laughing
    1. severbob
      severbob 10 January 2016 23: 16 New
      0
      and where would she b laughing ohm then in the apartment
  • Red_Hamer
    Red_Hamer 10 January 2016 10: 56 New
    0
    Their mail in this may argue with the "Russian Post", really
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    1. Sid.74
      Sid.74 8 January 2016 13: 07 New
      15
      Quote: Rostov Dad
      Lieutenant Colonel Cuba was given an extraordinary rank, ahead of time ...

      It's five. laughing

      By the way, this rocket embodies the principle of “shot and forget.” The rocket is thumping at 8 km.
      For example, a modification of the AGM-114R (Hellfire Romeo) - can be launched from any carrier, the new multi-purpose warhead provides for the destruction of such targets as armored vehicles, air defense systems, patrol ships, enemy manpower in shelters or caves. Previously, a special model of the Hellfire II rocket was required to defeat each of these targets. The guidance system is a combined, semi-active laser seeker and ANN;
      The main carriers of the rocket are helicopters and UAVs, such as the “traitor”.
      Depending on the modification of the missile, this case may have a very negative impact on the combat capability of the United States.
  • Atrix
    Atrix 8 January 2016 13: 01 New
    -17
    Quote: fox21h
    Congratulations to the Foreign Intelligence Service

    If it was a foreign intelligence service, then you need to expel them all for such work if they have not been able to get this rocket since 1982. laughing
    1. 11 black
      11 black 8 January 2016 13: 09 New
      15
      Quote: Atrix
      If it was an external intelligence service, then you need to kick them all out for such work if they have not been able to get this laughing rocket since 1982

      In your opinion, this rocket has not been modernized since 1982 of the year laughing And SVR fellows - it’s necessary ... accident, yeah ...
      1. Bayonet
        Bayonet 8 January 2016 18: 39 New
        +1
        Quote: 11 black
        And SVR fellows - it’s necessary ... accident, yeah ...

        It’s necessary, to give someone’s gouging for a successful secret operation of the SVR! Well, you will not die of modesty! laughing
        1. Aljavad
          Aljavad 10 January 2016 22: 47 New
          0
          It’s necessary, to give someone’s gouging for a successful secret operation


          From gouging countries collapse no less than from secret operations ...

          So - situevina in both cases is significant!
    2. vovanpain
      vovanpain 8 January 2016 13: 21 New
      18
      Quote: Atrix
      Quote: fox21h
      Congratulations to the Foreign Intelligence Service

      If it was a foreign intelligence service, then you need to expel them all for such work if they have not been able to get this rocket since 1982. laughing

      Of course, we understand your concern, dear Atrix, for your beloved United States and for the rambling-up of their services, but this is a good present for us. hi good
    3. Sid.74
      Sid.74 8 January 2016 13: 21 New
      +3
      Quote: Atrix
      If it was a foreign intelligence service, then you need to expel them all for such work if they have not been able to get this rocket since 1982. laughing

      And for us this is what the hell is necessary. We ourselves have a mustache.

      Whirlwind (GRAU index: 9K121, according to NATO classification: AT-16 Scallion) is an anti-tank missile system designed to arm Su-25T, Su-39 attack aircraft, Ka-50, Ka-52 helicopters, as well as boats and small patrols ships.

      ATGM is designed to destroy armored vehicles, including those equipped with dynamic protection, as well as low-speed (at speeds up to 800 km / h) air targets. Maximum firing range: By day: 10 km, at night: 5 (6) km. Target type: laser
      Control channels, daily: television. Night: low-level television, target tracking: automatic

      I think this rocket is also being adapted to our UAVs. Only ours can be launched from five meters, unlike the praised American hellfire.
      1. svp67
        svp67 8 January 2016 16: 02 New
        +5
        Quote: Sid.74
        And for us this is what the hell is necessary. We ourselves have a mustache.

        Yes, it is necessary, it is necessary. You need to know that our "foreign partner" has "bins". To apply something at home, and to know how to protect yourself from this.
    4. pv1005
      pv1005 8 January 2016 14: 06 New
      +3
      Quote: Atrix
      Quote: fox21h
      Congratulations to the Foreign Intelligence Service

      If it was a foreign intelligence service, then you need to expel them all for such work if they have not been able to get this rocket since 1982. laughing

      You SVR personally informs what they were able and what they could not?
      1. Atrix
        Atrix 8 January 2016 15: 54 New
        -1
        Quote: pv1005
        You SVR personally informs what they were able and what they could not?

        Of course, personally, since the person above wrote that the SVR worked well since 1982, the rocket could not be taken away.
        Quote: vovanpain
        Of course, we understand your concern, dear Atrix, for your beloved United States and for the rambling-up of their services, but this is a good present for us.

        These special services work just as well once they cherished the 34 rocket of the year wink

        You probably don’t know sarcasm
        1. svp67
          svp67 8 January 2016 16: 02 New
          +3
          Quote: Atrix
          These special services work just as well once they cherished the 34 rocket of the year

          Ha, ha ... three times. Let them think so-so.
          You probably don’t know sarcasm
          Well, where are we to sivolapym ... wink wink wink
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        3. vovanpain
          vovanpain 8 January 2016 17: 01 New
          +9
          Quote: Atrix
          These special services work just as well once they cherished the 34 rocket of the year

          So thank them and especially the Russian agent "Smoked" on behalf of Russia. good
          Quote: Atrix
          You probably don’t know sarcasm

          No, unfortunately dear Atrix, you see every single day, we have to drive out drunk bears with balalaikas from the porches. We are not up to sarcasm. Regards hi
    5. svp67
      svp67 8 January 2016 15: 59 New
      0
      Quote: Atrix
      If it was a foreign intelligence service, then you need to expel them all for such work if they have not been able to get this rocket since 1982.

      Ha, ha ... This rocket has been used so often that its secrets have long been known. Another thing is that you need to constantly monitor innovations.
      And who told you that the SVR worked here, the GRU of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation works fine in this regard.
    6. Ros 56
      Ros 56 8 January 2016 17: 57 New
      +1
      Actually, the SVR is engaged in somewhat different matters.
  • sub307
    sub307 8 January 2016 13: 49 New
    +1
    Yeah .... Right Christmas present ....
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  • Lukich
    Lukich 8 January 2016 14: 13 New
    +3
    Quote: fox21h
    Yes, no, all by chance, this is pure chance)))
    Congratulations to the Foreign Intelligence Service

    probably aimed at Fidel. Goryuchki on the road was not enough. eeehhhh tsuuuu ......
    1. Sid.74
      Sid.74 8 January 2016 14: 32 New
      +1
      Quote: Lukich
      probably aimed at Fidel. Goryuchki on the road was not enough. eeehhhh tsuuuu ......

      Comrades, and you still know that we have a settlement in Dagestan called Cuba .... winked
      Maybe it was not sent to Havana, but to Dagestan, to Russia a mother. This is howling and universal from the media of all Matrasia. laughing
      1. Oprychnik
        Oprychnik 8 January 2016 14: 43 New
        +3
        The stump is clear, directly from the city of Paris, but to the Dagestan n / a Cuba. A free horse.)))
        1. Sid.74
          Sid.74 8 January 2016 16: 15 New
          +7
          Quote: Oprychnik
          The stump is clear, straight from the city of Paris

          Understand comrade .... uh-uh ... uh ... what is the zagogulina here, Paris is a village in the Nagaybaksky district of the Chelyabinsk region, the administrative center of the Paris rural settlement ... repeat



          So th-ah, Europe is like the Urals ... just a little more ... smile
          And we still have Leipzig .. Arsinsky, Berlin ... Fershampenuaz.
          Chesma ..... Port Arthur .... Varna .... Bredy, Kassel.
          Named in honor of the victories and places of military glory of the Russian army.
          1. Sultan Babai
            Sultan Babai 8 January 2016 22: 46 New
            +2
            We have a village in Bashkiria, Switzerland ...
  • 78bor1973
    78bor1973 8 January 2016 14: 30 New
    +1
    And why not immediately to Moscow?
  • Thronekeeper
    Thronekeeper 8 January 2016 15: 05 New
    +2
    Why is the SVR FSB mass-and-dimension model with a working GOS of an old subsonic humpback log? More likely ordinary action ...
    Our probably Hunters and Predaters buy on the Internet in small wholesale.
  • sever.56
    sever.56 8 January 2016 12: 43 New
    14
    Everything is fine ... No error. The Foreign Intelligence Service is operating.
    I hope that during this time, our experts dismantled it in a cog, examined it, and assembled it back. Now you can return to the owner country ...
    1. Yuri Y.
      Yuri Y. 8 January 2016 12: 45 New
      +5
      Ha! Right Maybe we got something.
    2. GRAY
      GRAY 8 January 2016 13: 00 New
      10
      Quote: sever.56
      Everything is fine ... No error.

      It is generally accepted that in the West everywhere and always everything is done perfectly and accurately. In fact, this is not so, there are as many crucify Kosiporov as elsewhere.
      I remember once at our warehouse (in Moscow), a load arrived (as much as two tons of spare parts for diesel engines) that the English sent from Manchester to Paris - we had the whole crew in the packing house.
      1. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 8 January 2016 13: 57 New
        +1
        Well, it's you in vain. Oh, I remembered Iceland, a volcano, fog and small nasty rains.
    3. dmi.pris
      dmi.pris 8 January 2016 13: 16 New
      +1
      Return ?? Postage yes, possible.
      1. GRAY
        GRAY 8 January 2016 13: 34 New
        +2
        Quote: dmi.pris
        Return ?? Postage yes, possible.

        Which one is there to return, the spare parts will become gold, and they are already, at a price, “gilded”. They left it to themselves, the British did not even require payment.
        1. kil 31
          kil 31 8 January 2016 15: 36 New
          +1
          Quote: GRAY
          Quote: dmi.pris
          Return ?? Postage yes, possible.

          Which one is there to return, the spare parts will become gold, and they are already, at a price, “gilded”. They left it to themselves, the British did not even require payment.

          Did you tell them? They just thought gone and gone. If you told them they would be stunned. True, I doubt that they would have created an international scandal. Although such information about the improper transfer and falling into the hands of the enemy. Many of their rear service generals would have gone to reserve. On this it would be possible to do very beautiful things in the SVR.
    4. Dilshat
      Dilshat 8 January 2016 13: 45 New
      +1
      Why study it? Ours have been doing no worse for a long time.
      1. Mavrikiy
        Mavrikiy 8 January 2016 14: 01 New
        +5
        Dilshat
        "What is it to study? Ours have been doing worse for a long time."
        Uh, dear. They study not only to do it, but also to destroy it was more agile, right?
        1. Weyland
          Weyland 8 January 2016 14: 31 New
          +2
          Quote: Mavrikiy
          Uh, dear.


          If you answer with an accent, then you had to write “joy of the heart” instead of “dear” (this is how the name Dilshat is translated) smile
    5. SRC P-15
      SRC P-15 8 January 2016 14: 15 New
      0
      Quote: sever.56
      I hope that during this time, our experts dismantled it in a cog, examined it, and assembled it back. Now you can return to the owner country ...

      Instead of one, just two! tongue
  • venaya
    venaya 8 January 2016 12: 45 New
    +5
    loss of ammunition “could mean a leak of sensitive military technology”

    All this is more like a kind of game, the final goals of which are not yet clear.
    1. Pajamas
      Pajamas 8 January 2016 13: 06 New
      0
      Quote: venaya
      loss of ammunition “could mean a leak of sensitive military technology”

      All this is more like a kind of game, the final goals of which are not yet clear.

      Yes, I agree, it is possible that the provocation and disinformation, especially since the United States bargaining for a missile with Cuba, did not particularly insist, but used it as an argument. So it is not known what special services this is luck.
      1. DobryAAH
        DobryAAH 8 January 2016 14: 02 New
        +1
        Sounds like a fantasy. So you can send a nuclear bomb by mistake.
        1. BARKHAN
          BARKHAN 10 January 2016 09: 14 New
          +1
          Quote: Good AAAH
          Sounds like a fantasy. So you can send a nuclear bomb by mistake.

          And I completely admit gagging ... for example, Clinton, who Bill, when he was president, lost the codes for activating the nuclear suitcase ... and for two months the officer who was supposed to check these codes was sent from the White House because of the allegedly busy president ...
          Now American generals recall this incident as humor ... Comedians damn it! fool Or maybe according to Lavrov ... DBL, BL!
    2. nrex
      nrex 8 January 2016 13: 21 New
      +3
      Sometimes, ordinary fraud is taken for someone’s logical chain. This is not a flying saucer that would twist some kind of intelligence web. We ourselves have such a good thing from these times, not one year is enough to plow the Syrian land.
      1. Sid.74
        Sid.74 8 January 2016 13: 35 New
        +1
        Quote: venaya
        All this is more like a kind of game, the final goals of which are not yet clear.

        That okay, still straight and unclear ... wink

        1. Mavrikiy
          Mavrikiy 8 January 2016 14: 04 New
          +1
          And no one still has beaten off the woman’s hands?
          1. Junior, I
            Junior, I 8 January 2016 14: 16 New
            +1
            Why, she herself will soon get tired and lowered.
  • LÄRZ
    LÄRZ 8 January 2016 12: 46 New
    13
    Probably someone for this missile answered "Serving Russia!".
    1. Max otto
      Max otto 8 January 2016 12: 54 New
      +2
      Quote: LÄRZ
      Probably someone for this missile answered "Serving Russia!".

      The most faithful comment! 5 points.
      1. svp67
        svp67 8 January 2016 12: 57 New
        +1
        Quote: Max Otto
        The most faithful comment! 5 points.

        Only in this case it should have been: "Serving the Fatherland!" Well, then you could add "And Special Forces!"
  • svp67
    svp67 8 January 2016 12: 47 New
    +2
    Well, not like the Spaniards decided to save money and used the services of the Russian Post ... good
  • avvg
    avvg 8 January 2016 12: 49 New
    +2
    I hope that the Cuban comrades did not waste time in vain, with the help of Russian experts, they studied from and to.
    1. 1rl141
      1rl141 8 January 2016 14: 04 New
      +2
      Quote: avvg
      I hope that the Cuban comrades did not waste time in vain, with the help of Russian experts, they studied from and to.


      In the word "Cuban" where to put the stress? Cuban or already Cuban?
      1. Lekov L
        Lekov L 8 January 2016 18: 40 New
        +1
        That's where the dog rummaged!
        For sure! Ours asked amers to go directly to Kubinka - to the museum, and these illiterate people do not even know the geography of the Moscow region.
        belay
        Further on Zadornov. laughing
  • wicked pinnochio
    wicked pinnochio 8 January 2016 12: 51 New
    0
    yes it is not an accident
    1. Captain45
      Captain45 8 January 2016 14: 25 New
      +1
      Quote: wicked pinnochio
      yes it is not an accident

      As was noted in one book: "chance is an unknown regularity" wink
  • avva2012
    avva2012 8 January 2016 12: 51 New
    +3
    Yes, life is actually funnier than a joke. I think someone has attached a new star to the epaulettes. Something a long time ago Western media have not squealed about Russian specials. service. Apparently, they work very well.
  • awersa
    awersa 8 January 2016 12: 53 New
    0
    Who said, “we left Cuba”? And did not leave, and even how we work
  • Tjeck
    Tjeck 8 January 2016 12: 54 New
    +3
    most likely negligence, Americans have more interesting specimens for special services. `` Hellfire '', although not a bad but already quite outdated rocket.
  • awersa
    awersa 8 January 2016 12: 55 New
    +4
    ETOGES as it was necessary for the Spaniards to "try" to confuse the USA with Cuba !!!!!
    1. 79807420129
      79807420129 8 January 2016 13: 44 New
      +9
      Quote: awersa
      ETOGES as it was necessary for the Spaniards to "try" to confuse the USA with Cuba !!!!!

      Moreover, from Spain, the rocket moved to the Paris Roissy-Charles de Gaulle airport and was sent by Air France to Havana by cargo flight. Although after the exercises the rocket had to go to Frankfurt am Main, and then it had to be sent to the USA.
    2. avva2012
      avva2012 8 January 2016 14: 22 New
      0
      "But Pasaran" is still valid!
  • iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 8 January 2016 12: 56 New
    +2
    I recall the ancient computer toy "F-14", so there were already helpers. That they have such modern technology, probably; or all their superfluous fucking called in one word? 8 kg of hellfire, well, well. And the delivery vehicle is the pale deer of the apocalypse. Ugh, damn it, tinkers unfinished.
  • bronik
    bronik 8 January 2016 12: 57 New
    0
    Flew .., in the sense of the wrong way.
  • PatriotKZ
    PatriotKZ 8 January 2016 12: 57 New
    +2
    Yeah, the DHL missile was sent by accident to the wrong place, and even to KUBUUUU. Of course, it is no coincidence that even if they mold this tale of chance by an American, they manage to make flat cakes well. laughing
    1. LÄRZ
      LÄRZ 8 January 2016 13: 06 New
      +3
      "In every chance there is a proportion of regularity"
  • EvgNik
    EvgNik 8 January 2016 13: 01 New
    +5
    If not a fake, then the message is just sweetie. More to such.
    1. vovanpain
      vovanpain 8 January 2016 17: 32 New
      11
      According to the Wall Street Journal, the incident occurred in 2014: the United States sent a rocket to Europe, and then for some unknown reason it was transported to Cuba instead of the United States. For a year, Washington, the newspaper writes, has been trying to tacitly persuade Havana to return Hellfire, fearing that "Cuban authorities may transfer technologies related to its sensors and guidance system to countries such as China, North Korea or Russia."
      According to the newspaper, the federal departments unsuccessfully tried to establish who is behind the incident - “spies or organized crime”, or “everything is explained by a rare combination of adverse circumstances.” "Did someone get a bribe to send it the wrong way? Was it a special operation or a series of mistakes? That is what we are trying to find out," the newspaper quoted the words of one of its sources from among American officials.
      According to him, in early 2014, Lockheed Martin Corporation sent a training missile from Orlando International Airport (Florida) to Spain for use in NATO exercises. After their completion, Hellfire was packed in Rota (province of Cadiz), where the Spanish-American naval base is located, and sent by truck to Madrid. From there, it was supposed to be transported by plane to German Frankfurt, and then transported to Florida. The cargo didn’t reach the destination; instead, as it turned out, the rocket was brought to Paris Roissy-Charles de Gaulle airport and sent by Air France to Havana by cargo flight. When the logistics companies found this out, Hellfire was already on board an airplane flying to Cuba.
      Lockheed Martin realized that the missile was lost, and notified the US Department of State. He took up her search, which was complicated by unofficial negotiations with Havana on the normalization of relations between the countries.
      According to the newspaper, if it is established that the missile was lost due to a mistake, the State Department will stop the investigation and deal with Lockheed Martin. Under US law, this corporation could face a multimillion-dollar fine for violating the ban on the export of military or dual-use products.
      1. LÄRZ
        LÄRZ 9 January 2016 00: 49 New
        +2
        The situevina outlined by you resembles a saying: "Seven nannies have a child without supervision." request
  • Zomanus
    Zomanus 8 January 2016 13: 06 New
    +1
    So I look at the layout of this rocket and I have a question.
    The cumulative funnel is clearly visible there.
    It turns out that when hit, the jet passes through
    all the electronics and only then comes to the armor?
    1. GRAY
      GRAY 8 January 2016 13: 20 New
      +5
      Quote: Zomanus
      It turns out that when hit, the jet passes through
      all the electronics and only then comes to the armor?

      This is normal, electronics at the moment of detonation are no longer needed, and the cumulative stream should focus on the armor, therefore, detonation occurs at a certain distance.
      At "Cornet", for example, in general the main charge is located in the rear part, and in the middle the engine is located and nothing interferes.
    2. Professor
      Professor 8 January 2016 16: 20 New
      +7
      Quote: Zomanus
      It turns out that when hit, the jet passes through
      all the electronics and only then comes to the armor?

      There is no electronics in the way of the cumulative jet. If you want, then a hole has been specially made in the electronics. The same system and ATGM Javelin.
  • python2a
    python2a 8 January 2016 13: 07 New
    +1
    Cubans were and remain our friends.
    1. Manul
      Manul 8 January 2016 21: 46 New
      0
      Quote: python2a
      Cubans were and remain our friends.

      The next destination is Kolomna, KB Engineering winked
      1. SOKOL777
        SOKOL777 8 January 2016 22: 29 New
        0
        Quote: Manul
        The next destination is Kolomna, KB Engineering


        For a long time we have ... bully
      2. SOKOL777
        SOKOL777 8 January 2016 22: 29 New
        0
        Quote: Manul
        The next destination is Kolomna, KB Engineering


        For a long time we have ... bully
  • Yak-3P
    Yak-3P 8 January 2016 13: 10 New
    +3
    probably a new modification ... "friend or foe" does she have any interest?
  • AlexTires
    AlexTires 8 January 2016 13: 11 New
    +4
    IMHO, the Americans were not afraid of the sensors and technologies, but because the Russians or the Chinese would open the rocket, and would understand that the technology was backward, and except for excavators, bulldozers and hospitals, schools and civilians, this rocket couldn’t shoot ...
  • shosha
    shosha 8 January 2016 13: 23 New
    +1
    What good news)) even the mood improved slightly))
  • Stinger
    Stinger 8 January 2016 13: 24 New
    +2
    the packaged ammunition ended up at the Frankfurt airport in Germany, from where, for an unclear reason, the missile was delivered to Paris and loaded onto an Air France company that flew to Havana

    Right. Do not send immediately to Russia.
  • Kibl
    Kibl 8 January 2016 13: 26 New
    +1
    News in support of the continuation of the New Year holidays!
  • Friends
    Friends 8 January 2016 13: 27 New
    +4
    The newspaper, citing competent sources, reports that the US administration "unsuccessfully tried to return the missile after a year of warming diplomatic relations with Cuba."

    The interlocutors noted that the loss of ammunition "may mean the leakage of sensitive military technology."


    There it’s like ... But isn’t that why they “got warmer” - after 50 years. laughing

    But McCain was offended by Barabama because of "warming" with Cuba - I didn’t know how to see that Husseinich was saving "sensitive military technologies." bully
  • Great-grandfather of Zeus
    Great-grandfather of Zeus 8 January 2016 13: 27 New
    +1
    It seems like not a battle-worthy rocket, but a layout! Well, in that case, send them a photo of this rocket with the signature "thank you for the prize winner."
  • Dmitry Potapov
    Dmitry Potapov 8 January 2016 13: 30 New
    +1
    Either they have a mess worse than ours, or .......
  • Dmitry Potapov
    Dmitry Potapov 8 January 2016 13: 35 New
    +5
    Or maybe they messed up Telavi and TelAviv in Mimino? And what, they wrote on the box "Havana" meaning a type-coded cigar, but someone realized that it was in Havana.
  • DMB_95
    DMB_95 8 January 2016 13: 42 New
    +2
    Maybe the hydrogen bomb was sent to South Korea, and the parcel came to North. laughing
    1. Aleksey_K
      Aleksey_K 8 January 2016 22: 34 New
      0
      Quote: DMB_95
      Maybe the hydrogen bomb was sent to South Korea, and the parcel came to North. laughing

      What is the point of making a thermonuclear bomb with a power of approximately 6 kilotons, it was of such a force that an explosion was detected if the same explosion is perfectly obtained with ordinary atomic charges. In addition, in order to detonate a thermonuclear device, it is necessary to detonate an atomic charge inside the hydrogen. And these are the very 6 kilotons.
      So what about the fusion of a thermonuclear device in the territory of the DPRK - complete nonsense.
  • Prisoner
    Prisoner 8 January 2016 13: 44 New
    0
    After all, they don’t doze off partisans. Anti-Statist Resistance in Europe is gaining strength. soldier
    1. kil 31
      kil 31 8 January 2016 13: 51 New
      +8
      Penalty, fine, fine and fine America again. How she dared the reptile to bypass UN sanctions to supply missiles to Cuba. am Churkin let him gather the UN Security Council on this fact. laughing laughing laughing Bow
  • Mikhail Krapivin
    Mikhail Krapivin 8 January 2016 14: 08 New
    +3
    Trifle, but nice!
  • Junior, I
    Junior, I 8 January 2016 14: 22 New
    0
    So maybe already in parts it was delivered to us in Russia, the Cubans can help!
  • apro
    apro 8 January 2016 14: 22 New
    +4
    Some incomprehensible situation was sent to Cuba, where to Cuba? who to Cuba? why these squeals? Rocket a hundred years in the afternoon, and the noise ....
  • Captain45
    Captain45 8 January 2016 14: 32 New
    +2
    It can be seen, therefore, that the State Department approved the sale of “Hellfire” to Iran, as stated in a neighboring article. Well, all the secrets are already known belay
    1. apro
      apro 8 January 2016 14: 39 New
      +3
      Yuri Iraq and not Iran, just like Zadornov.
  • DPN
    DPN 8 January 2016 15: 03 New
    0
    Glory to the Cubans, well done, especially if intelligence did it. If chance is good too.
    1. BARKHAN
      BARKHAN 10 January 2016 09: 19 New
      +1
      He smiled too laughing Well, okay ... there nearby.
  • Nymp
    Nymp 8 January 2016 15: 26 New
    +3
    These are those who in the 90s dishonored the "mess" of the Soviet system! Yes, in the Soviet Union with strategic weapons there never were such blunders. Otherwise, general's epaulettes would lie on the gravestone of the perpetrator of such movements! Mattresses will soon lose the statue of freedom! bully
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet 8 January 2016 18: 55 New
      +1
      Quote: Nymp
      Yes, in the Soviet Union with strategic weapons there never were such blunders

      So has she become strategic? laughing Passion rises! laughing
  • Friends
    Friends 8 January 2016 15: 33 New
    +1
    Quote: AlexTires
    IMHO, the Americans were not afraid of the sensors and technologies, but because the Russians or the Chinese would open the rocket, and would understand that the technology was backward, and except for excavators, bulldozers and hospitals, schools and civilians, this rocket couldn’t shoot ...


    It is also an option.

    At all. It is believed that the bulk of the United States woodwafers is called upon to exert a purely psychological effect on the fragile minds of the natives, by their existence, according to the type of SDI.

    It seems that this statement is not unfounded ...
    1. Aljavad
      Aljavad 10 January 2016 22: 58 New
      +1
      Quote: AlexTires
      IMHO, not for sensors and technologies the Americans got scared, but for the fact that the Russians or the Chinese would open the rocket, and would understand that the technology is backward


      When the A-10 Thunderbolt was brought into the Union, ours were amazed at the low culture of its production. They thought it was super-muper, and there - centimeter gaps between the cladding panels, filled with putty ...
  • bad
    bad 8 January 2016 16: 16 New
    +1
    The interlocutors noted that the loss of ammunition "may mean the leakage of sensitive military technology."
    ... God shares bequeathed .. laughing
  • 31rus
    31rus 8 January 2016 17: 05 New
    +2
    Dear, it’s absolutely not funny, remember the anthrax disputes sent around the world, the United States is generally not responsible for the control of its weapons, it will result in a major scandal or terrorist act
    1. Sergey Vladimirovich
      Sergey Vladimirovich 8 January 2016 19: 26 New
      +2
      That’s yes, I absolutely agree ... For a more responsible attitude, they need to lower the level of their vaunted “shit..kratia” and, together with it, other other “tolerances”, then there will be less sloppiness. And responsibility will rise.
      1. LÄRZ
        LÄRZ 9 January 2016 00: 36 New
        +3
        What can I add here? "Human factor". hi
  • martin-159
    martin-159 8 January 2016 17: 10 New
    +2
    Quote: python2a
    Cubans were and remain our friends.

    They are yes! And we?
  • Ros 56
    Ros 56 8 January 2016 17: 51 New
    0
    Quote: fox21h
    Congratulations to the Foreign Intelligence Service


    Well, why are you so limited? Congratulations to everyone who participated in the creation of the "error and its correction." I think it will be better, but specialists will figure it out among themselves.
    1. Bayonet
      Bayonet 8 January 2016 18: 58 New
      -3
      Quote: Ros 56
      Congratulations to everyone who participated in the creation of the "error and its correction." I think it will be better, but specialists will figure it out among themselves.

      What is so modest - orders! Commentators (especially gifted) - medals! wink
  • Sergey Vladimirovich
    Sergey Vladimirovich 8 January 2016 19: 16 New
    +2
    In the Perm Territory there is a village Siva ... In the Latin transcription of Cuba (the locals call it that, by the way ...) I wonder how serious the error was when sending it, and where did this rocket turn out ... wink request
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    1. LÄRZ
      LÄRZ 9 January 2016 00: 27 New
      +4
      Yes, I read in the news: some kind of foreign lady recently, by her dispersal in the train, forgot the Stradivarius violin for 2mln. $ This is a loss. And then some kind of piece of iron. lol
  • Mih
    Mih 9 January 2016 01: 16 New
    0
    delivered to Paris and loaded onto an Air France plane flying to Havana, "
    fellow
    So there’s nothing to do with foreign intelligence fellow Sami are given !!! This is Love!!!! love
  • faterdom
    faterdom 9 January 2016 01: 35 New
    +1
    What a trifle, after seducing Iranian scouts with fuse drawings for nuclear weapons to grab them "on the hot", through a former Soviet specialist (who was played by the CIA blindly, but was not a bad specialist - before the meeting he corrected specially made critical but subtle errors, I thought that the mistakes of copyists), in Austria, the Americans missed ... the departure of the Iranian resident with these drawings!
    But then they could reasonably declare: Iran can create nuclear weapons! Surely so.
    Or how residency in Iran was accidentally dropped over the Internet (!!!) to Iran!
    Well dumb!
    They are not lucky with Iran, starting in the 70s and the glorious operation to free the hostages from the embassy.
  • Vadim12
    Vadim12 9 January 2016 02: 16 New
    +1
    A good anti-tank missile, but any technology is unlikely to get lost. The guidance method is known, characteristics too.
  • linen
    linen 9 January 2016 05: 05 New
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    This is all known! And do not give the VSA rocket!
  • absolutelly
    absolutelly 9 January 2016 10: 20 New
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    disassemble to the bones and take into account all the performance characteristics
  • Arikkhab
    Arikkhab 9 January 2016 12: 05 New
    +2
    "At the end of the exercises, the packaged ammunition ended up at the Frankfurt airport in Germany, from where, for an unclear reason, the missile was delivered to Paris and loaded onto an Air France company that flew to Havana."
    haha ... does the "unexplained reason" in Russian sound like "GRU"?
    and in a year all the “sensitive military technologies” have already leaked
  • Milana
    Milana 9 January 2016 16: 00 New
    +1
    Strange. For a whole year negotiations have been underway on the return of the rocket,
    and the stuffing about it was done only now ...
    Or I missed something, most likely.
    1. MIKHALYCH1
      MIKHALYCH1 9 January 2016 18: 46 New
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      Quote: Milana
      Strange. For a whole year negotiations have been underway on the return of the rocket,
      and the stuffing about it was done only now ...
      Or I missed something, most likely.

      No Milan ... You are as always feminine insightful! Let them fight ... "Who is to blame and what to do ..?"
      Journalists are fighting now, for sensations ... But I would invite you to the restaurant! Calmly discuss everything ... love
  • olgen58
    olgen58 9 January 2016 17: 24 New
    0
    Well for the happy logistics
  • Former battalion commander
    Former battalion commander 9 January 2016 18: 00 New
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    There is no use to anyone with this rocket! All electronics consists of PLCs and processors with closed firmware. They are almost impossible to read, and if you read them, then you won’t understand a damn thing! You will destroy the sea of ​​time of designers and all for nothing! In general, I am inclined to believe that this missile was SPECIALLY slipped in order to distract designers from the REAL business, at the same time to check their security system for lice, to check how much the Cubans agree to cooperate, where the information will go, and it is even possible to launch similar developments on the enemy on a false track, or create the appearance of backwardness in this matter. In any case, in order to take advantage of this event, the one who received this rocket must SEVERELY DRINK! And it’s not yet known that it’s cheaper to deal with this rocket or create your own new ZERO!