Media: American rocket after exercises in Europe was mistakenly returned to Cuba

The American air-to-surface Hellfire rocket (hellfire), sent without a warhead to 2014 in Spain for NATO maneuvers, was mistakenly returned to Cuba, not to the United States, RIA News Post by the Wall Street Journal.

Layout rocket Hellfire II.

At the end of the exercise, “the packaged ammunition arrived at the airport in Frankfurt, Germany, from where, for an unclear reason, the rocket was flown to Paris and loaded onto an Air France plane that departed for Havana,” the newspaper writes.

“Was it a bribe? Was it an intelligence service operation or just a series of mistakes? We are trying to figure this out, "

said the publication representative of the presidential administration.

The newspaper, citing competent sources, reports that the US administration "unsuccessfully tried to return the missile after a year of warming diplomatic relations with Cuba."

The interlocutors noted that the loss of ammunition "may mean the leakage of sensitive military technology."

Comments

[fox21h]

Yes, no, all by chance, this is pure chance)))
Congratulations to the Foreign Intelligence Service

[Finches]

Did the Americans use the services of the Russian Post or something ...?

[cniza]

There are no such accidents, everyone has their own "logistics".

[Sasha 19871987]

here everything is according to Zadorny-NU DUPLE !!!

[Tatyana]

From the text of the article
An American air-to-surface Hellfire (Hellfire) rocket, sent without a warhead to 2014 to Spain for NATO maneuvers, was mistakenly returned not to the United States, but to Cuba.
At the end of the exercises, “the packaged ammunition turned out to be at the airport of german frankfurtfrom where, for an unexplained reason, a rocket delivered to Paris and loaded onto an Air France airplane that took off to Havana

With exactly the same “mistake”, NATO missiles will someday appear in the DIASH group. And then Westerners will provocatively say that Russia allegedly provided them with them.
It seems like a provocation of the western intelligence services.

[Talgat]

Hellfire is an advanced thing, and even if the RF has non-inferior counterparts. all the same, the technologies there are secret and very interesting to both Russia and China

Therefore, I doubt that these are Western services - nobody gives such gifts to anyone
Or a really stupid mistake, or still intelligence services of US opponents

It is easy to guess who will get access to the missile from Cuba - first of all, it is China, then Russia, of course, and Iran - the third friend of the Bolivarians

Earlier, if you remember, Iran "planted" US drones (probably with the help of Russian means)
Iran did not hesitate immediately announced openly that it would provide access to technology to China and Russia

[Professor]

Quote: Talgat

Hellfire is an advanced thing, and even if the RF has non-inferior counterparts. all the same, the technologies there are secret and very interesting to both Russia and China

1. Nobody put technology in a suitcase, just a sample. explain the difference?
2. Helfair in service with 1970's, exported to 4 of a dozen countries, used by thousands in dozens of conflicts and clashes. In your sample Helfire still not been in Russia?

Quote: Talgat

Earlier, if you remember, Iran "planted" US drones (probably with the help of Russian means)
Iran did not hesitate immediately announced openly that it would provide access to technology to China and Russia

Teach materiel who, where and what planted.

[cap]

Quote: professor

Teach materiel who, where and what planted.

"Iranian experts did not waste time and created their own drone based on the American drone. Political scientist Kave Afrasiabe told RT why this is an important achievement for Tehran.

The Iranian military published a video recording the successful flight of a high-tech drone. It is a copy of a reconnaissance aircraft designed by the United States and intercepted by Iran three years ago. The Lockheed Martin Sentinel drone was a secret development used by the CIA.

A total of 20 such devices were produced; their technical characteristics are strictly classified. It is only known that drones are equipped with advanced technologies that impede their detection and allow them to detect the smallest nuclear activity on earth. Barack Obama expected the Iranians to return the captured drone, but Tehran refused the Americans this request. Earlier we talked with political scientist Cave Afrasiabi. He believes that the development of stealth technologies in the field of air defense is a significant achievement for Iran.
“Against the backdrop of US attempts to use the negotiations on the nuclear program as a lever of pressure on Iran, the development of stealth technologies has become an important and impressive achievement for Tehran. They will allow you to track the movement of missiles in the region, in particular in the Persian Gulf, as well as reflect radar signals and break through air defense systems. I think the United States will have to come to terms with this and recognize that Iran is a country that has drones, and we need to take it seriously, ”says Afrasiabi.
As a result, the Americans still managed to get a drone - a toy, pink. One children's store in Iran decided to joke by sending him to the White House. "
http://nnm.me/blogs/genav/iran-sozdal-bespilotnik-na-baze-perehvachennogo-amerik
anskogo-drona /

[Professor]

Quote: cap

The Iranian military published a video recording the successful flight of a high-tech drone. It is a copy of a reconnaissance aircraft designed by the United States and intercepted by Iran three years ago. The Lockheed Martin Sentinel drone was a secret development used by the CIA.

Oh, I remember how they (the Islamic state of Iran) video showed the flight of their fifth generation fighter. And a video of a monkey flying into space.

Quote: cap

A total of 20 such devices were produced; their technical characteristics are strictly classified. It is only known that drones are equipped with advanced technologies that prevent their detection and allow them to detect the smallest nuclear activity on earth.

Did they plant technology too? Was there a flash drive with a drone manufacturing process?

Quote: cap

I think the United States will have to come to terms with this and recognize that Iran is a country that has drones, and we need to take it seriously, ”says Afrasiabi.

The Persians (the Islamic state of Iran) were repeatedly caught in a lie. Photoshop and show-offs are their main weapon.

Tell us how Carpool planted a drone. I have not heard a story for a long time. Missed you.

[oxotnuk86]

Please convince the mattresses of this, that the Iranians in this garbage will not understand anything.

[cap]

Quote: professor

Tell us how Carpool planted a drone. I have not heard a story for a long time. Missed you. wink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaQQ33THVPY

If it’s very interesting, go to the specified link
Obama claims that he would return an intelligence drone in place of the Iranians. The joker however.

[Professor]

Quote: cap

If it’s very interesting, go to the specified link

The link is broken. However, focus on how the Carpool station is implementing passive the search for radiating targets in a uniform circular rotation of the antenna system could plant something.

- 2011 December 05 - the media are circulating information from the Fightglobal website that the Iranian air defense system has landed an American RQ-170 Sentinel UAV using the Russian complex of the Avtobaza executive RTR. Taking into account the fact that the very fact of the landing or shooting down of the UAV has not been confirmed and there is a likelihood of an accident due to loss of control without external influence, this information seems to us untrue and even exceeds the theoretical potential of Avtobaza.
1L222 Carpool

[Lex.]

Do not disgrace the professor, Alexander Alesin, a military expert, quite said that Iran planted this TANK

[Professor]

Quote: Lex.

Do not disgrace professor

Young man, poke your parents, and with me I will ask for "you". We did not graze geese in the same meadow with you.

Quote: Lex.

, Alexander Alesin, a military expert, quite said that Iran planted this TANK

And how did this "military expert" fully explain how the Islamic state of Iran landed the drone?

[Lex.]

Actually, I'm not a young man. Secondly, in Israel, even children speak to you.

[Professor]

Quote: Lex.

Actually, I'm not a young man. Secondly, in Israel, even children speak to you.

1. Glad for you.
2. We will communicate in Hebrew, we will switch to "you", but while we communicate in the great and mighty, let's observe its norms.
3. What about the "expert"? How does he explain all this?

[Scraptor]

On "you" in English, communicate "you" there.

Professor, did you get out the very first night after Christmas? Telvizor Russian means we don’t look, and Russian-language sites - always please?

[andrewkor]

First, follow the UN resolution already in 1948 on the formation of an Arab state in Palestine and live peacefully with your neighbors!

[Bayonet]

Quote: Tatiana

DIASH fighters

For what reasons, if not secret, Have you renamed DAISH to DIASH?

[Tatyana]

Ha! The typo is out! In the form of "bounce"
Thank you, dear Bayonet, for what you noticed - and warned!
And then I relaxed something with my brains and, in my opinion, everywhere I started to spy DIASH instead of DAYISH.

[Aljavad]

Quote: Tatiana
DIASH fighters
For what reasons, if not secret, hi did you rename Daesh into Diash?

DIASH - Brazilian drug-separatists!

[Aleksey_K]

Quote: professor

2. Helfair in service with 1970's, exported to 4 of a dozen countries, used by thousands in dozens of conflicts and clashes. In your sample Helfire still not been in Russia?

And I agree with you. Moreover, such a transfer could be misinformation, for example for Russia. Those. they sent an improper missile to Russia so that, for example, the guidance system of a real missile could not be extinguished by Russian electronic warfare systems.

[72jora72]

And I agree with you. Moreover, such a transfer could be misinformation, for example for Russia. Those. they sent an improper missile to Russia so that, for example, the guidance system of a real missile could not be extinguished by Russian electronic warfare systems.

You hold our specialists for idiots?

[Professor]

Quote: Алексей_К

so that, for example, the guidance system of a real missile could not be extinguished by Russian electronic warfare systems.

Which EW? The missile is guided by a laser beam. Will you put jammers?

By the way, Helfire is not from the word hel (hell), but from the word helicopter (helicopter). Original title Helicopter Launched, Fire and Forget Missile

[DobryAAH]

an American air-to-surface missile with a semi-active laser or active radar guidance (embodying the principle of "shot and forgot").

Two types of guidance. Radar can simply be scored or tricked. And the laser, to score from the same side with a more powerful beam, and if the control coding is known, then send it to where you need it, but this is already more difficult.

[Aleksey_K]

Quote: professor

Which EW? The missile is guided by a laser beam. Will you put jammers?

You forget that the control system on the plane is computer. If the computer does not work, then the rocket does not see anything. Some will say that he launched a rocket and forgot, so first you need to launch it. And this is the activation of the rocket and its electronic filling, the computer does not work - nothing works. In addition, the missile guidance head itself is still electronics, which can also be disabled in the same way, and then all the lasers and homing heads are electronic scrap.

[Lex.]

http://inosmi.ru/asia/20111215/180397502.html
And here is the professor and the reference

[Professor]

Quote: Lex.

And here is the professor and the reference

Not only that - it is clear that he received almost no external damage.
False. The drone was seriously damaged. Its bottom was carefully hidden by the Islamic state from the eyes of the public, and its wings were glued.

In the simplest version, they can simply be jammed with interference.
Rave. No one has ever succeeded.

A more sophisticated option is to crack an encrypted signal transmitted from ground stations to unmanned vehicle control systems. After which it is drowned out and transmitted to the drone by new teams, already from its ground source.
I did not read further. I thought there would be an "expert" to talk about the Autobase, but here is baby talk.

[Aljavad]

Nobody put technology in a suitcase, just a sample. explain the difference?

The Chinese also gave us AIM-9 without a "suitcase". So what? K-13 made ...

“... The discovered specimen of the missile did not contain explosives. However, US military officials fear that Cuban experts have opened the“ stuffing ”of the ammunition and familiarized themselves with the sensor system and the“ embedded ”targeting technology (target selection - approx. ru "). Washington fears Havana's transfer of this knowledge to China, North Korea or Russia ..."

"... The Pentagon fears that Cuba may transmit information about the missile's sensors to Russia, China or North Korea ..."

"... The ammunition was developed 10 years ago, but has undergone several upgrades since then ..."

Our ATGM is at least no worse, but it is always useful to be aware of "world trends". Make a whisper with your fingers, and say ...

[Professor]

Quote: Aljavad

The Chinese also gave us AIM-9 without a "suitcase". So what? K-13 made ...

You hold the iPhone in your hands, try copying. Or copy BMW.

Quote: Aljavad

Our ATGM is at least no worse, but it is always useful to be aware of "world trends". Make a whisper with your fingers, and say ...

No worse, only a generation behind.

[2s1122]

Evidently the French decided to slowly take revenge on the Mistals for the Mistals.

[Suhow]

if the error of the services is not bad, it saves money on research, etc., the main thing is that this technology does not turn out to be a dead end, specially thrown up. Time and resources will be spent, smart people are distracted from projects.

[Arkon]

Quote: Tatiana

It seems like a provocation of the western intelligence services.

I totally agree. Or the preparation of a legend or technological "disinformation".
But, in any case, this is just additional information.
It is important how they dispose of it.

[Tatyana]

Arkon

Tatyana
It seems like a provocation of the western intelligence services.

I totally agree. Or the preparation of a legend or technological "disinformation".

I had in mind the provocation of the Western special services of the following kind.
To remove the guilt for the provision of high-tech weapons in the future, for example, for DIASH, a precedent has been created for the fact that the high-tech weapons of NATO countries, in principle, in a multi-way way of deliveries and dispatches, can "accidentally" get to the wrong place - without VINYA and INTENTION of the owners themselves.
And it’s not necessary that it will be this particular American air-to-surface Hellfire rocket (“hellfire”). We can talk about everything, about anything - even about the atomic bomb!
It is noteworthy that the DIASH fighters are asking and trying to get just such weapons for themselves. Probably, they will have it soon.

[Arkon]

This is the legend. One of the options.

[Roman 57 rus]

Exactly, and an article recently was about what the Islamists began to make rockets ...

[Sid.74]

Quote: cniza

There are no such accidents, everyone has their own "logistics".

Is this not the logistics that anthrax spores and strains of the Ebola virus sent around the world that year, mistakenly of course ....

[Pereira]

Similar style.
If there is a third newsletter, this is already a system. Or maybe we just don’t know about all such letters?

[Junior, I]

Ah, but the logistics turned out to be our man)))))!

[Genur]

THIS happens when Laziness to THINK ...
Or letters forgot ...

[Blondy]

Of course, for a long time already, everywere is USA logistics for this - hence the overlays. Remember at least the recent pentagon shipment of anthrax to Japan.

[Kunar]

Glory to the SVR! In the best traditions)))))

[vovanpain]

Today I already wrote about this in the comments, so I won’t repeat it, but doubts torment me. Both news came out on the same day, the rocket ended up in Cuba in 2014. It’s already 2016, Rogozin made several visits to Cuba in 2014-2015. At the same time, Baran Obama announces a thaw in relations with Cuba. The bell opens like a casket, but this is only my private opinion, but I think that we have already studied this infernal fire from all angles.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: Finches

Did the Americans use the services of the Russian Post or something ...?

[evil partisan]

I will give -Not everything is lost! I regularly use Russian Post . No complaints !! And the fact that they do not have Rezh on the map is not their problem! Receive shipments at our Main Post Office and no problems!
Hi spiteful!

[kil 31]

Quote: wicked partisan

I will give -Not everything is lost! I regularly use Russian Post . No complaints !! And the fact that they do not have Rezh on the map is not their problem! Receive shipments at our Main Post Office and no problems!
Hi spiteful!

I have no complaints in Asbest. But still a week long. Although it happens 4 days.

[evil partisan]

Quote: keel 31

still a week long.

In our country, the speed of any process (including delivery) is inversely proportional to its size.

[Weyland]

Quote: Angry Guerrilla

Hello spiteful

Maybe you and delivery speed arranges?

[evil partisan]

Quote: Weyland

delivery speed satisfied?

And I myself rarely rush to where At the moment, I expect a keyboard from Torzhok. I hope it does not turn sour until it arrives ...

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: Angry Guerrilla

I will give

fuck me man, and even old ... without you, there is someone to console me ... hello ... kindness ...

[ALABAY45]

"Russian Post" - "And let the whole world wait!"
"Russian Post" - "We invented dried fruits!"
This is how you are going to send a smoked moose tongue to a friend, but there’s no alternative! I will not take risks, I will eat myself, choking and wailing ...

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: ALABAY45

"Russian Post" - "And let the whole world wait!"
"Russian Post" - "We invented dried fruits!"

Quote: ALABAY45

This is how you are going to send a smoked moose tongue to a friend, but there’s no alternative! I will not take risks, I will eat myself, choking and wailing ...

and there is no smoked halibut? one friend asked ... if something at the General Post Office send him ...

[evil partisan]

Quote: ALABAY45

smoked moose tongue

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

smoked halibut

I disavow everyone!
And especially sophisticated is the one who constantly plunders our natural resources. Since the appeal to the hunting and fish inspections of the city of Khantymansiysk did not give a result, I go higher. Get ready to Kollleg . Well, or prepare the package ...
Hello poacher!

[Andrey Yuryevich]

eh ... what to say .. if I am a "poacher", then who are the rest? I didn’t dip my fishing rod but ... I’ll go to PenZia- bury the minnows!

[NIKNN]

Quote: Finches

Did the Americans use the services of the Russian Post or something ...?

We knew everything about this rocket ...., but the improvements in the GOS are actually a secret. I cannot be an expert on this type of missile, but based on "Sidewinder" and "Sparrow", each modification has a really significant secret. Judging by the time when it was lost, it is not relevant today, only at the political level to talk ...

[Lukich]

Quote: Finches

Did the Americans use the services of the Russian Post or something ...?

judging by the confusion and inability to find the extreme, the postal office tried its best. but they don’t recognize ...

[Extraneous]

Americans very often use civil aviation and navy for insignificant transportation between Europe and America. So cheaper. It is enough for some of the emigrants at the cargo terminal to misunderstand what is written on the tag to the cargo - and travel around the earth is provided. In the West, a gigantic business is built on the hammer sale of lost goods and luggage. So the story of a missile that got in the wrong place is quite normal for their cargo transportation.

[Old Schweik]

I have a package from China for the fourth month on the road. God forbid, nevertheless, he will come, it’s scary to go to the post office, to receive.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: Old Schweik

I have a package from China for the fourth month on the road. God forbid, nevertheless, he will come, it’s scary to go to the post office, to receive.

if only, they passed it from hand to hand along the chain — they would have delivered it ...

[Bayonet]

Quote: Old Schweik

I have a package from China for the fourth month on the road.

All the train is gone after the order comes a confirmation of shipment indicating the deadline after which you can submit a claim and receive a refund. After 4 months, perhaps you can forget about your denyuzhku!

[Aleksey_K]

Quote: Old Schweik

I have a package from China for the fourth month on the road. God forbid, nevertheless, he will come, it’s scary to go to the post office, to receive.

On the Aliexpress website there is such a thing as a timer. There are several of them. In the simplest case, when the user does not follow the timer for receiving the parcel and the deadline for receipt has passed, then it’s useless for you to wait and they won’t even return the money. In addition, there is the concept of sellers on Aliexpress. So, some sellers profit from this, i.e. hack (cheat).

[Aleksey_K]

Quote: Алексей_К

Quote: Old Schweik

I have a package from China for the fourth month on the road. God forbid, nevertheless, he will come, it’s scary to go to the post office, to receive.

On the Aliexpress website there is such a thing as a timer. There are several of them. In the simplest case, when the user does not follow the timer for receiving the parcel and the deadline for receipt has passed, then it’s useless for you to wait and they won’t even return the money. In addition, there is the concept of sellers on Aliexpress. So, some sellers profit from this, i.e. hack (cheat).

I briefly told you what mistakes you do not need to make when ordering on Aliexpress, and they instructed me the cons for this. What kind of viciousness do some readers have on Military Review?

[The black]

Maybe they and the Koreans mistakenly sent a hydrogen bomb?

[Severbob]

and where would she b ohm then in the apartment

[Red_Hamer]

Their mail in this can argue with the "Post of Russia", really believe

[Sid.74]

Quote: Rostov Dad

Lieutenant Colonel Cuba was given an extraordinary rank, ahead of time ...

It's five.

By the way, this rocket embodies the principle of “fire and forget.” The rocket hits at 8 km.
For example, a modification of the AGM-114R (Hellfire Romeo) - can be launched from any carrier, the new multi-purpose warhead provides for the destruction of such targets as armored vehicles, air defense systems, patrol ships, enemy manpower in shelters or caves. Previously, a special model of the Hellfire II rocket was required to defeat each of these targets. The guidance system is a combined, semi-active laser seeker and ANN;
the main missile carriers are helicopters and drones such as the "predator".
Depending on the modification of the missile, this case may have a very negative impact on the combat capability of the United States.

[Atrix]

Quote: fox21h

Congratulations to the Foreign Intelligence Service

If it was a foreign intelligence service, then you need to expel them all for such work if they have not been able to get this rocket since 1982.

[11 black]

Quote: Atrix

If it was an external intelligence service, then you need to kick them all out for such work if they have not been able to get this laughing rocket since 1982

In your opinion, this rocket has not been modernized since 1982 of the year And SVR fellows - it’s necessary ... accident, yeah ...

[Bayonet]

Quote: 11 black

And SVR fellows - it’s necessary ... accident, yeah ...

It’s necessary, to give someone’s gouging for a successful secret operation of the SVR! Well, you will not die of modesty!

[Aljavad]

It’s necessary, to give someone’s gouging for a successful secret operation

From gouging countries collapse no less than from secret operations ...

So - situevina in both cases is significant!

[vovanpain]

Quote: Atrix

Quote: fox21h

Congratulations to the Foreign Intelligence Service

If it was a foreign intelligence service, then you need to expel them all for such work if they have not been able to get this rocket since 1982.

Of course, we understand your concern, dear Atrix, for your beloved United States and for the rambling-up of their services, but this is a good present for us.

[Sid.74]

Quote: Atrix

If it was a foreign intelligence service, then you need to expel them all for such work if they have not been able to get this rocket since 1982.

And for us this is what the hell is necessary. We ourselves have a mustache.

Whirlwind (GRAU index: 9K121, according to NATO classification: AT-16 Scallion) is an anti-tank missile system designed to arm Su-25T, Su-39 attack aircraft, Ka-50, Ka-52 helicopters, as well as boats and small patrols ships.

ATGM is designed to destroy armored vehicles, including those equipped with dynamic protection, as well as low-speed (at speeds up to 800 km / h) air targets. Maximum firing range: By day: 10 km, at night: 5 (6) km. Target type: laser
Control channels, daily: television. Night: low-level television, target tracking: automatic

I think this rocket is also being adapted to our UAVs. Only ours can be launched from five meters, unlike the praised American hellfire.

[svp67]

Quote: Sid.74

And for us this is what the hell is necessary. We ourselves have a mustache.

Yes, it is necessary. You have to know that our "foreign partner" is in the "bins". In order to apply something at home, and know how to defend against it.

[pv1005]

Quote: Atrix

Quote: fox21h

Congratulations to the Foreign Intelligence Service

If it was a foreign intelligence service, then you need to expel them all for such work if they have not been able to get this rocket since 1982.

You SVR personally informs what they were able and what they could not?

[Atrix]

Quote: pv1005

You SVR personally informs what they were able and what they could not?

Of course, personally, since the person above wrote that the SVR worked well since 1982, the rocket could not be taken away.

Quote: vovanpain

Of course, we understand your concern, dear Atrix, for your beloved United States and for the rambling-up of their services, but this is a good present for us.

These special services work just as well once they cherished the 34 rocket of the year

You probably don’t know sarcasm

[svp67]

Quote: Atrix

These special services work just as well once they cherished the 34 rocket of the year

Ha, ha ... three times. Let them think so-so.

You probably don’t know sarcasm

Well, where are we to sivolapym ...

[vovanpain]

Quote: Atrix

These special services work just as well once they cherished the 34 rocket of the year

So thank them and especially the Russian agent "Smoked" on behalf of Russia.

Quote: Atrix

You probably don’t know sarcasm

No, unfortunately dear Atrix, you see every single day, we have to drive out drunk bears with balalaikas from the porches. We are not up to sarcasm. Regards

[svp67]

Quote: Atrix

If it was a foreign intelligence service, then you need to expel them all for such work if they have not been able to get this rocket since 1982.

Ha, ha ... This rocket has been used so often that its secrets have long been known. Another thing is that you need to constantly monitor innovations.
And who told you that the SVR worked here, the GRU of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation works fine in this regard.

[Ros 56]

Actually, the SVR is engaged in somewhat different matters.

[sub307]

Yeah .... Right Christmas present ....

[Lukich]

Quote: fox21h

Yes, no, all by chance, this is pure chance)))
Congratulations to the Foreign Intelligence Service

probably aimed at Fidel. Goryuchki on the road was not enough. eeehhhh tsuuuu ......

[Sid.74]

Quote: Lukich

probably aimed at Fidel. Goryuchki on the road was not enough. eeehhhh tsuuuu ......

Comrades, and you still know that we have a settlement in Dagestan called Cuba ....
Maybe it was not sent to Havana, but to Dagestan, to Russia a mother. This is howling and universal from the media of all Matrasia.

[Oprychnik]

The stump is clear, directly from the city of Paris, but to the Dagestan n / a Cuba. A free horse.)))

[Sid.74]

Quote: Oprychnik

The stump is clear, straight from the city of Paris

Understand comrade .... uh-uh ... uh ... what is the zagogulina here, Paris is a village in the Nagaybaksky district of the Chelyabinsk region, the administrative center of the Paris rural settlement ...

So th-ah, Europe is like the Urals ... just a little more ...
And we still have Leipzig .. Arsinsky, Berlin ... Fershampenuaz.
Chesma ..... Port Arthur .... Varna .... Bredy, Kassel.
Named in honor of the victories and places of military glory of the Russian army.

[Sultan Babai]

We have a village in Bashkiria, Switzerland ...

[78bor1973]

And why not immediately to Moscow?

[Thronekeeper]

Why is the SVR FSB mass-and-dimension model with a working GOS of an old subsonic humpback log? More likely ordinary action ...
Our probably Hunters and Predaters buy on the Internet in small wholesale.

[sever.56]

Everything is fine ... No error. The Foreign Intelligence Service is operating.
I hope that during this time, our experts dismantled it in a cog, examined it, and assembled it back. Now you can return to the owner country ...

[Yuri Y.]

Ha! Right Maybe we got something.

[GRAY]

Quote: sever.56

Everything is fine ... No error.

It is generally accepted that in the West everywhere and always everything is done perfectly and accurately. In fact, this is not so, there are as many crucify Kosiporov as elsewhere.
I remember once at our warehouse (in Moscow), a load arrived (as much as two tons of spare parts for diesel engines) that the English sent from Manchester to Paris - we had the whole crew in the packing house.

[Mavrikiy]

Well, it's you in vain. Oh, I remembered Iceland, a volcano, fog and small nasty rains.

[dmi.pris1]

Return ?? Postage yes, possible.

[GRAY]

Quote: dmi.pris

Return ?? Postage yes, possible.

What is there to return, the spare parts will become gold, and they are already, at a price, "gilded". They left it for themselves, the British did not even demand payment.

[kil 31]

Quote: GRAY

Quote: dmi.pris

Return ?? Postage yes, possible.

What is there to return, the spare parts will become gold, and they are already, at a price, "gilded". They left it for themselves, the British did not even demand payment.

Did you tell them? They just thought gone and gone. If you told them they would be stunned. True, I doubt that they would have created an international scandal. Although such information about the improper transfer and falling into the hands of the enemy. Many of their rear service generals would have gone to reserve. On this it would be possible to do very beautiful things in the SVR.

[Dilshat]

Why study it? Ours have been doing no worse for a long time.

[Mavrikiy]

Dilshat
"Why study it? Ours have been doing no worse for a long time."
Uh, dear. They study not only to do it, but also to destroy it was more agile, right?

[Weyland]

Quote: Mavrikiy

Uh, dear.

If you answer with an accent, you should have written "joy of the heart" instead of "dear" (this is how the name Dilshat is translated)

[SRC P-15]

Quote: sever.56

I hope that during this time, our experts dismantled it in a cog, examined it, and assembled it back. Now you can return to the owner country ...

Instead of one, just two!

[venaya]

loss of ammunition “could mean a leak of sensitive military technology”

All this is more like a kind of game, the final goals of which are not yet clear.

[Pajamas]

Quote: venaya

loss of ammunition “could mean a leak of sensitive military technology”

All this is more like a kind of game, the final goals of which are not yet clear.

Yes, I agree, it is possible that the provocation and disinformation, especially since the United States bargaining for a missile with Cuba, did not particularly insist, but used it as an argument. So it is not known what special services this is luck.

[DobryAAH]

Sounds like a fantasy. So you can send a nuclear bomb by mistake.

[BARKHAN]

Quote: Good AAAH

Sounds like a fantasy. So you can send a nuclear bomb by mistake.

And I completely admit gagging ... for example, Clinton, who Bill, when he was president, lost the codes for activating the nuclear suitcase ... and for two months the officer who was supposed to check these codes was sent from the White House because of the allegedly busy president ...
Now American generals recall this incident as humor ... Comedians damn it! Or maybe according to Lavrov ... DBL, BL!

[nrex]

Sometimes, ordinary fraud is taken for someone’s logical chain. This is not a flying saucer that would twist some kind of intelligence web. We ourselves have such a good thing from these times, not one year is enough to plow the Syrian land.

[Sid.74]

Quote: venaya

All this is more like a kind of game, the final goals of which are not yet clear.

That okay, still straight and unclear ...

[Mavrikiy]

And no one still has beaten off the woman’s hands?

[Junior, I]

Why, she herself will soon get tired and lowered.

[LÄRZ]

Probably someone answered for this missile "I serve Russia!"

[Max otto]

Quote: LÄRZ

Probably someone answered for this missile "I serve Russia!"

The most faithful comment! 5 points.

[svp67]

Quote: Max Otto

The most faithful comment! 5 points.

Only in this case it should have sounded: "I serve the Fatherland!" Well, and then you could add "And SpetsNazu!"

[svp67]

Well, not like the Spaniards decided to save money and used the services of the Russian Post ...

[avvg]

I hope that the Cuban comrades did not waste time in vain, with the help of Russian experts, they studied from and to.

[1rl141]

Quote: avvg

I hope that the Cuban comrades did not waste time in vain, with the help of Russian experts, they studied from and to.

Where is the accent in the word "Cuban"? Cuban or already Cuban?

[Lekov L]

That's where the dog rummaged!
For sure! Ours asked amers to go directly to Kubinka - to the museum, and these illiterate people do not even know the geography of the Moscow region.

Further on Zadornov.

[wicked pinnochio]

yes it is not an accident

[Captain45]

Quote: Angry Pinnochio

yes it is not an accident

As it was noted in one book: "Accident is an unknown pattern"

[avva2012]

Yes, life is actually funnier than a joke. I think someone has attached a new star to the epaulettes. Something a long time ago Western media have not squealed about Russian specials. service. Apparently, they work very well.

[awersa]

Who said, “we left Cuba”? And did not leave, and even how we work

[Tjeck]

most likely negligence, the Americans have more interesting specimens for special services. The Hellfire, although not a bad missile, is already quite outdated.

[awersa]

ETOGES as it was necessary for the Spaniards to "try" to confuse the USA with Cuba !!!!!

[79807420129]

Quote: awersa

ETOGES as it was necessary for the Spaniards to "try" to confuse the USA with Cuba !!!!!

Moreover, from Spain, the rocket moved to the Paris Roissy-Charles de Gaulle airport and was sent on an Air France cargo flight to Havana. Although after the exercises the rocket was supposed to go to Frankfurt am Main, Germany, and then was to be sent to the United States.

[avva2012]

"But Pasaran" is still in effect!

[iliitchitch]

I recall the ancient computer toy "F-14", so there were already helpers. This is their modern technology, probably; or call all their super-fancy crap in one word? 8 kg of hellfire, well, you must. And the delivery vehicle is the pale deer of the apocalypse. Ugh, damn it, pontyarschiki unfinished.

[Bronik]

Flew .., in the sense of the wrong way.

[PatriotKZ]

Yeah, the DHL missile was sent by accident to the wrong place, and even to KUBUUUU. Of course, it is no coincidence that even if they mold this tale of chance by an American, they manage to make flat cakes well.

[LÄRZ]

"Every chance has some regularity"

[EvgNik]

If not a fake, then the message is just sweetie. More to such.

[vovanpain]

According to the Wall Street Journal, the incident occurred in 2014: the United States sent a missile to Europe, and then, for some unknown reason, it was transferred to Cuba instead of the United States. For a whole year, Washington, the newspaper writes, tried to tacitly convince Havana to return Hellfire, fearing that "the Cuban authorities may transfer technology associated with its sensors and guidance system to countries such as China, North Korea or Russia."
According to the newspaper, federal agencies tried unsuccessfully to establish who was behind the incident - "spies or organized crime" - or "everything is explained by a rare coincidence of unfavorable circumstances." "Did someone receive a bribe to send it to the wrong place? Was it a special operation or a series of mistakes? This is what we are trying to find out," the newspaper quotes one of its sources from among American officials.
According to him, in early 2014, Lockheed Martin Corporation sent a training missile from Orlando International Airport (Florida) to Spain for use in NATO exercises. After their completion, Hellfire was packed in Rota (province of Cadiz), where the Spanish-American naval base is located, and sent by truck to Madrid. From there, it was supposed to be transported by plane to German Frankfurt, and then transported to Florida. The cargo didn’t reach the destination; instead, as it turned out, the rocket was brought to Paris Roissy-Charles de Gaulle airport and sent by Air France to Havana by cargo flight. When the logistics companies found this out, Hellfire was already on board an airplane flying to Cuba.
Lockheed Martin realized that the missile was lost, and notified the US Department of State. He took up her search, which was complicated by unofficial negotiations with Havana on the normalization of relations between the countries.
According to the newspaper, if it is established that the missile was lost due to a mistake, the State Department will stop the investigation and deal with Lockheed Martin. Under US law, this corporation could face a multimillion-dollar fine for violating the ban on the export of military or dual-use products.

[LÄRZ]

The situevina you outlined resembles the saying: "Seven nannies have a child unattended."

[Zomanus]

So I look at the layout of this rocket and I have a question.
The cumulative funnel is clearly visible there.
It turns out that when hit, the jet passes through
all the electronics and only then comes to the armor?

[GRAY]

Quote: Zomanus

It turns out that when hit, the jet passes through
all the electronics and only then comes to the armor?

This is normal, electronics at the moment of detonation are no longer needed, and the cumulative stream should focus on the armor, therefore, detonation occurs at a certain distance.
The Kornet, for example, has the main charge in the tail section, and the engine is located in the middle and nothing interferes.

[Professor]

Quote: Zomanus

It turns out that when hit, the jet passes through
all the electronics and only then comes to the armor?

There is no electronics in the path of the cumulative jet. If you like, a hole has been made in the electronics. The same system is on the Javelin ATGM.

[python2a]

Cubans were and remain our friends.

[Manul]

Quote: python2a

Cubans were and remain our friends.

The next addressee is Kolomna "KB mechanical engineering"

[SOKOL777]

Quote: Manul

The next addressee is Kolomna "KB mechanical engineering"

For a long time we have ...

[SOKOL777]

Quote: Manul

The next addressee is Kolomna "KB mechanical engineering"

For a long time we have ...

[Yak-3P]

new modification probably ... "friend or foe" she has interesting?

[AlexTires]

IMHO, the Americans were not afraid of the sensors and technologies, but because the Russians or the Chinese would open the rocket, and would understand that the technology was backward, and except for excavators, bulldozers and hospitals, schools and civilians, this rocket couldn’t shoot ...

[shosha]

What good news)) even the mood improved slightly))

[Stinger]

the packaged ammunition ended up at the Frankfurt airport in Germany, from where, for an unclear reason, the missile was delivered to Paris and loaded onto an Air France company that flew to Havana

Right. Do not send immediately to Russia.

[Kibl]

News in support of the continuation of the New Year holidays!

[Friends]

The newspaper, citing competent sources, reports that the US administration "unsuccessfully tried to return the missile after a year of warming diplomatic relations with Cuba."

The interlocutors noted that the loss of ammunition "may mean the leakage of sensitive military technology."

Look how it is ... Isn't that why they "got warmer" - after 50 years.

And McCain was offended by Barabama because of the "warming" with Cuba - he was not aware of the fact that Husseinich was saving "sensitive military technologies."

[Great-grandfather of Zeus]

It seems like not a combat-ready rocket, but a mock-up! Well, in that case, send them a photo of this rocket with the caption "thanks for the prize".

[Dmitry Potapov]

Either they have a mess worse than ours, or .......

[Dmitry Potapov]

And maybe how in "Mimino" Tellavi was confused with Tel Aviv? And what, they wrote on the box "Havana" meaning a type of cigar coded, but someone realized that it was in Havana.

[DMB_95]

Maybe the hydrogen bomb was sent to South Korea, and the parcel came to North.

[Aleksey_K]

Quote: DMB_95

Maybe the hydrogen bomb was sent to South Korea, and the parcel came to North.

What is the point of making a thermonuclear bomb with a power of approximately 6 kilotons, it was of such a force that an explosion was detected if the same explosion is perfectly obtained with ordinary atomic charges. In addition, in order to detonate a thermonuclear device, it is necessary to detonate an atomic charge inside the hydrogen. And these are the very 6 kilotons.
So what about the fusion of a thermonuclear device in the territory of the DPRK - complete nonsense.

[Prisoner]

After all, they don’t doze off partisans. Anti-Statist Resistance in Europe is gaining strength.

[kil 31]

Penalty, fine, fine and fine America again. How she dared the reptile to bypass UN sanctions to supply missiles to Cuba. Churkin let him gather the UN Security Council on this fact. Bow

[Mikhail Krapivin]

Trifle, but nice!

[Junior, I]

So maybe already in parts it was delivered to us in Russia, the Cubans can help!

[apro]

Some incomprehensible situation was sent to Cuba, where to Cuba? who to Cuba? why these squeals? Rocket a hundred years in the afternoon, and the noise ....

[Captain45]

Apparently, therefore, the State Department approved the sale of the Hellfires to Iran, as stated in the next article. To be sure, all the secrets are already known

[apro]

Yuri Iraq and not Iran, just like Zadornov.

[DPN]

Glory to the Cubans, well done, especially if intelligence did it. If chance is good too.

[BARKHAN]

He smiled too Well, okay ... there nearby.

[Nymp]

These are those who in the 90s disgraced the "mess" of the Soviet system! Yes, in the Soviet Union with strategic weapons, there were never such blunders. Otherwise, the general's shoulder straps would lie on the tombstone of the one guilty of such movements! Mattress covers will soon lose the Statue of Liberty!

[Bayonet]

Quote: Nymp

Yes, in the Soviet Union with strategic weapons there never were such blunders

So has she become strategic? Passion rises!

[Friends]

Quote: AlexTires

IMHO, the Americans were not afraid of the sensors and technologies, but because the Russians or the Chinese would open the rocket, and would understand that the technology was backward, and except for excavators, bulldozers and hospitals, schools and civilians, this rocket couldn’t shoot ...

It is also an option.

At all. It is believed that the bulk of the United States woodwafers is called upon to exert a purely psychological effect on the fragile minds of the natives, by their existence, according to the type of SDI.

It seems that this statement is not unfounded ...

[Aljavad]

Quote: AlexTires
IMHO, not for sensors and technologies the Americans got scared, but for the fact that the Russians or the Chinese would open the rocket, and would understand that the technology is backward

When the A-10 Thunderbolt was brought into the Union, ours were amazed at the low culture of its production. They thought it was super-muper, and there - centimeter gaps between the cladding panels, filled with putty ...

[bad]

The interlocutors noted that the loss of ammunition "may mean the leakage of sensitive military technology."

... God shares bequeathed ..

[31rus]

Dear, it’s absolutely not funny, remember the anthrax disputes sent around the world, the United States is generally not responsible for the control of its weapons, it will result in a major scandal or terrorist act

[Sergey Vladimirovich]

Yes, I agree absolutely ... For a more responsible attitude, they need to lower the level of their vaunted "shit..cracy" and, along with it, other other "tolerances", then there will be less sloppiness. And responsibility will rise.

[LÄRZ]

What can be added here? "Human factor".

[martin-159]

Quote: python2a

Cubans were and remain our friends.

They are yes! And we?

[Ros 56]

Quote: fox21h

Congratulations to the Foreign Intelligence Service

Well, why are you so limited? Congratulations to everyone who contributed to the "bug and fix". I think it will be better, but the specialists will figure it out among themselves.

[Bayonet]

Quote: Ros 56

Congratulations to everyone who contributed to creating the "bug and fixing it". I think it will be better, but the specialists will figure it out among themselves.

What is so modest - orders! Commentators (especially gifted) - medals!

[Sergey Vladimirovich]

In the Perm Territory there is a village Siva ... In the Latin transcription of Cuba (the locals call it that, by the way ...) I wonder how serious the error was when sending it, and where did this rocket turn out ...

[LÄRZ]

Yes, I read in the news: some kind of foreign lady recently, by her dispersal in the train, forgot the Stradivarius violin for 2mln. $ This is a loss. And then some kind of piece of iron.

[Mih]

delivered to Paris and loaded onto an Air France plane flying to Havana, "

So there’s nothing to do with foreign intelligence Sami are given !!! This is Love!!!!

[faterdom]

What a trifle, after seducing Iranian intelligence officers with fuse drawings for nuclear weapons in order to grab them "hot", through a former Soviet specialist (who was played out by the CIA in the dark, but he was a good specialist - before the meeting he corrected specially introduced critical, but subtle errors, I thought that the copiers' mistakes), in Austria the Americans missed ... the departure of the Iranian resident with these drawings!
But then they could reasonably declare: Iran can create nuclear weapons! Surely so.
Or how residency in Iran was accidentally dropped over the Internet (!!!) to Iran!
Well dumb!
They are not lucky with Iran, starting in the 70s and the glorious operation to free the hostages from the embassy.

[Vadim12]

A good anti-tank missile, but any technology is unlikely to get lost. The guidance method is known, characteristics too.

[linen]

This is all known! And do not give the VSA rocket!

[absolutelylly]

disassemble to the bones and take into account all the performance characteristics

[Arikkhab]

"At the end of the exercise, the packed ammunition ended up at the airport in Frankfurt, Germany, from where, for some unknown reason, the missile was delivered to Paris and loaded onto an Air France plane that flew to Havana."
ha-ha ... "Unclear reason" in Russian sounds like "GRU"?
and in a year all "sensitive military technologies" have already flowed to the right places

[Milana]

Strange. For a whole year negotiations have been underway on the return of the rocket,
and the stuffing about it was done only now ...
Or I missed something, most likely.

[MIKHALYCH1]

Quote: Milana

Strange. For a whole year negotiations have been underway on the return of the rocket,
and the stuffing about it was done only now ...
Or I missed something, most likely.

No Milan ... As always, you are perceptive as a woman! Let them fight ... "Who is to blame and what to do ..?"
Journalists are fighting now, for sensations ... But I would invite you to the restaurant! Calmly discuss everything ...

[olgen58]

Well for the happy logistics

[Former battalion commander]

There is no use to anyone with this rocket! All electronics consists of PLCs and processors with closed firmware. They are almost impossible to read, and if you read them, then you won’t understand a damn thing! You will destroy the sea of ​​time of designers and all for nothing! In general, I am inclined to believe that this missile was SPECIALLY slipped in order to distract designers from the REAL business, at the same time to check their security system for lice, to check how much the Cubans agree to cooperate, where the information will go, and it is even possible to launch similar developments on the enemy on a false track, or create the appearance of backwardness in this matter. In any case, in order to take advantage of this event, the one who received this rocket must SEVERELY DRINK! And it’s not yet known that it’s cheaper to deal with this rocket or create your own new ZERO!

[Lex.]

The interlocutors noted that the loss of ammunition "may mean the leakage of sensitive military technology."
What military secrets are there? In Syria, terrorists use them to the fullest

[Santjaga_Garka]

Yes, it’s just that the American warrant officer Shmatko received a couple of boxes of cigars “From Fidel” from Havana, so he sent back the return *)

[Lexa-149]

Let's think it over.
“Major exercises of NATO troops, called Trident Juncture, will be held from October 3 to November 6 in Spain. According to the Kingdom’s Minister of Defense Pedro Morenes, 30 thousand military personnel from 30 countries will take part in them.” (http://military. rf/2015/NATO52/)
TWO months have passed since the end of the exercises! Have you been looking for the missile for two months?!
This is something from the category “THE TROOP DIDN’T NOTICE THE LOSS OF A FIGHTER...”
Okay so ...

[BARKHAN]

Quote: Lexa-149

Let's think it over.
“Major exercises of NATO troops, called Trident Juncture, will be held from October 3 to November 6 in Spain. According to the Kingdom’s Minister of Defense Pedro Morenes, 30 thousand military personnel from 30 countries will take part in them.” (http://military. rf/2015/NATO52/)
TWO months have passed since the end of the exercises! Have you been looking for the missile for two months?!
This is something from the category “THE TROOP DIDN’T NOTICE THE LOSS OF A FIGHTER...”
Okay so ...

I tried to read your post three times... but I start laughing at the name of the kingdom’s Minister of Defense...
And I’m the only one interested in the question...What the hell is a military missile doing in the luggage of civilian airlines?
Even if the missile is “old”, there is a possibility of its modification. So, intelligence could not miss such a good opportunity to check. Well, why not take it out of the warehouse?

[faterdom]

Bloomberg remembers...http://rusvesna.su/news/1452368475

[saltickov.]

I hope ours managed to get coated.

[vmo]

Well, what can I say, well, what can I say!!!!!

[Stirlitz]

Nowhere did it say what model this was? Without this, it is difficult to correctly assess this event. Since 1985, this rocket has had many modifications. And what is new technology, and what is long-known and forgotten old - this cannot be judged even tentatively, without knowing exactly what modification came to Cuba...