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Ukrainian winter is unlikely to be quiet

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True Bandera are now preparing for the second stage of their national revolution, and all in anticipation ... The celebration of February 22 of the second anniversary of the "revolution of dignity" is a convenient excuse for its smooth transition into the second stage, coolly nationalist. With the fulfillment of all these promises and gilyak "occupation regime" Poroshenko. Nardep Sobolev from Lviv has already put forward the slogan: revolution, or throwing a grenade! Thus, he and like-minded people tried to break through to the Verkhovna Rada peacefully.


However, the “occupation regime” is nothing more than the presidential dictatorship of Poroshenko, and her teeth have already grown in the form of their own special services, and recently the president reassigned himself to the National Guard and the former internal troops. Plus, the APU is in reserve, in the ATO zone ... So the second stage of the revolution is expected by certain difficulties.

It is clear that in fact Poroshenko is the president of Zits, and all decisions on whether or not to conduct revolutions in the occupied territories are made in Washington, but Makhnovshchina in the Wild field, which was once Ukraine’s today, cannot be fully controlled Ataman does not have a treasury, and the lads are hungry and cold ... But it is to such a scenario that the course of events in the Bandera Krajina moves.

In this revolutionary situation, the recognized leader of the Bandera neo-Nazis, Dmitro Yarosh, actually betrays the revolution: arranges a split in its vanguard, the Right Sector, resigning as the leader and forming his own organization under the formidable name of the Volunteer Army. Which immediately renounces some "radical marginal", and thus extends the hand of the "occupation regime" Poroshenko.

It seems that Yarosh turned out to be an American hireling, and not a “Cossack” sent to the Americans, and simply fulfills valuable instructions from the US Embassy in Kiev, from Jeffrey Payette. Just some kind of political prostitution in the “revolution of dignity”, about the danger of which during the revolution Lenin warned, by the way. Or is it still a tricky Bandera trap for Poroshenko? This question torments many in Kiev today.

Inflexible fighters against the "occupation regime" at this time update the "Right Sector", and, apparently, will give him the name of Sashko Bilogo (Muzychko) to separate himself from the compromised "name Yarosh". By the way, the late Sashko has not yet been avenged, his killer is Foreign Minister Avakov still in power.

It is known that revolution is a delicate matter. Poroshenko, he is the “occupation regime”, can try to stop the second revolutionary impulse by the resumption of hostilities in the Donbas, coinciding with the celebration of the second anniversary of the February coup.

Today, the junta is hardly capable of a massive offensive in the Donbas, however, the short-term resumption of hostilities, after some provocation, is quite capable of it. Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov warned before the New Year that Kiev “has plans to again resort to military power in the Donbas.” At the same time, the “occupation regime” can break out of the Minsk agreements.

Although, formally, the “Minsk-2” ended, Kiev remained in the Minsk trap. He has already tried to break the Minsk fetters, proposing to “expand the Minsk format”, introduce peacekeepers to the Donbass, but all is in vain, Europe is silent on all these proposals, and talks about the prolongation of the “Minsk-2”. So, Kiev will have to "solve" the Minsk question itself. And, perhaps, in spite of Joe Biden.

Ukrainian winter is unlikely to be quiet


Surprisingly, the US Vice President Joe Biden himself, on his last visit to Kiev, spoke in the Verkhovna Rada (!) About the need for Kraina to fulfill the Minsk agreements, that he does not see anything terrible even in the formation of the United States of Ukraine! ..

What is this happening? First, “the West took advantage of the discontent of the people in Ukraine and carried out a coup d’etat,” according to an expert assessment of Vladimir Putin, and today he himself offers a separatist plan to Bandera’s Kiev!

Someone in something here for big lies, and gives out the desired for the real. Under such uncertainty, Moscow adheres to a simple CAS plan - “consume yourself”. Russia has nowhere to hurry: it is necessary to wait for at least the end of the celebration of the second anniversary of the neo-Nazi “revolution of dignity”.

... The expected major New Year terrorist attack in Europe did not take place. Turkish special services allegedly handed over to German colleagues data on the impending terrorist act at the Munich railway station. However, there were no detentions of terrorists, were they also warned? ... Instead, there were light terrorist acts against women in Cologne, and women's values ​​in Europe were threatened ... Nobody transmitted any data to the French special services at the time, and the Paris press spoke in retaliation about the Turkish trail of the terrorist attacks in Paris. About the times, about morals ...
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  1. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 11 January 2016 06: 56 New
    42
    ССС - “eat yourself.”

    In my opinion, the most suitable plan for today's Ukraine. Now it’s better to watch from the side how events will develop. And the sooner they start to eat themselves for real, the better. We are helping Donbass and he is ready to fight back once again in the event of the resumption of hostilities. And the others do not care. To what have jumped, then get.
    1. Evgen_Vasilich
      Evgen_Vasilich 11 January 2016 08: 34 New
      -43
      USSR - gobble up yourself, raguli!
      1. nils
        nils 11 January 2016 10: 30 New
        0
        Quote from an article: Moscow, in conditions of such uncertainty, adheres to the simple plan of the CCC - "gobble yourself up."
        The author is lying.
        Tricky Putin's plan:
        From the message to the Federal Assembly at 2015:
        It is well known that Russia not only supported Ukraine and other fraternal republics of the former USSR in their quest for sovereignty, but also greatly contributed to this process at the turn of the 1990's.
        Since then, nothing has changed in our position.
        Russia is making, has already made a huge contribution to supporting Ukraine. Here I will say again that our banks have already invested about $ 25 billion in Ukraine. The Russian Ministry of Finance issued a loan last year - another three billion. Gazprom provided loans to the Ukrainian economy for another 5,5 billion, even with a discount that no one had promised, for 4,5 billion dollars. Calculate how much this all together will be. This is 32,5 - 33,5 billion dollars in recent years alone. !!!!! ?????

        Thus, by quickly recognizing the legitimacy of the Bandera government and strangling the "Russian Spring", Putin still keeps the DPR and LPR in the status of legal uncertainty, trying to push them into Ukraine, thus preserving a hotbed of bloody tension. Really tricky.
        1. Tambov Wolf
          Tambov Wolf 11 January 2016 11: 29 New
          +6
          Unfortunately, you are right. Why develop your country and collect Russians. It is better to invest money in U.S. papers and support Ukrokibutz than to give development to your country and its people. It can be seen that the obligations given to the dead dead Borukh Eltsin are stronger than anything else.
        2. Gardener91
          Gardener91 11 January 2016 14: 19 New
          -2
          The GDP most likely hoped that the whole nation of Ukraine would rise against Bandera ideology and the new regime, but something happened that could not even be dreamed of in a terrible dream.
        3. Yars
          Yars 11 January 2016 17: 12 New
          -2
          and why is Putin supposed to support the Jewish "Russian spring" ?!

          1. Gardener91
            Gardener91 11 January 2016 17: 25 New
            0
            Yes, not to support, but to work in support of opposition to the Maidan.
            1. Haettenschweiler
              Haettenschweiler 11 January 2016 19: 58 New
              +2
              - Yes, to hell with them. It's a pity only "Antonov" stayed there.
    2. Infernal man
      Infernal man 12 January 2016 05: 22 New
      0
      yeah, only the border with us is still open. Soon all this filth will come to us. Already half here ...
  2. Darkness
    Darkness 11 January 2016 07: 17 New
    13
    In general, not a bit sorry. Let them freeze, starve. Maybe they will start jumping higher.
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 11 January 2016 10: 31 New
      +2
      Yes, the fact of the matter is that the minority jumps, and the majority suffers.
      1. Petrol
        Petrol 11 January 2016 10: 58 New
        -14
        the city of lions is not a goat
        1. Vik66
          Vik66 11 January 2016 12: 00 New
          +2
          Come on ! And who does not jump, that m ... eh !!! winked
          1. Simon
            Simon 11 January 2016 18: 39 New
            +1
            Yes, jumped! Another current revolution and Ukraine will fall to pieces. request
      2. UrraletZ
        UrraletZ 11 January 2016 12: 48 New
        +7
        If the "majority" had not been sitting in the cabbage, then the minority would not have jumped.
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 11 January 2016 15: 23 New
          +4
          Quote: UrraletZ
          If the "majority" had not been sitting in the cabbage, then the minority would not have jumped.

          In the 91st we all sat out.
        2. Petrol
          Petrol 11 January 2016 17: 45 New
          +2
          UrraletZ_y
          "If only"
          You have all who could financially provide a coup in the Face of Gusinsky (expelled ruined), Berezovsky (expelled ruined destroyed), Khodorkovsky (planted ruined expelled)!
          political sting of the colonialists: Starovoytova, Nemtsov, Bonner, Novodvorskaya where are they ????
          a snake without a head does not bite! it is true that obviously!
          1. Yars
            Yars 11 January 2016 20: 28 New
            +1
            Quote: Benzin
            UrraletZ_y
            "If only"
            You have all who could financially provide a coup in the Face of Gusinsky (expelled ruined), Berezovsky (expelled ruined destroyed), Khodorkovsky (planted ruined expelled)!
            political sting of the colonialists: Starovoytova, Nemtsov, Bonner, Novodvorskaya where are they ????
            a snake without a head does not bite! it is true that obviously!

            I agree, but their offspring (and there are such ones in this forum), disguised as patriots try to regularly incite the people against the President!
            1. Petrol
              Petrol 12 January 2016 12: 04 New
              +1
              YaRs _ y
              when the people like the SHIELD to the people, and the people like the SWORD to the president, what prevents the henchmen of foreign invaders from taking off their heads?
    2. sanja.grw
      sanja.grw 11 January 2016 20: 34 New
      +3
      2017 year ... TV announcer: - You will laugh, but in Ukraine a coup again!
  3. 33 Watcher
    33 Watcher 11 January 2016 07: 17 New
    15
    And who is rebelling? Rebels those who did not find a place at the trough. Even Yarosh even exchanged revolutionary ideas for at least some occupation, at least with some kind of salary. And the poor rioters are hardly capable of anything serious. Even if they arrange a bunch of ceremonies to stand on ceremony with them, they will not, SBU, not something that under Yanukovych.
    1. Amurets
      Amurets 11 January 2016 07: 52 New
      +3
      Quote: Observer 33
      Rebels those who did not find a place at the trough.

      At the trough, they are also poured by rank. The Anglo-Saxons are like that. Who sits higher and better feed is poured.
    2. Gato
      Gato 11 January 2016 14: 35 New
      +4
      Quote: Observer 33
      stand on ceremony with them, they will not, SBU, is not something that under Yanukovych

      Oh, I'm laughing at you. SBU is now not what it was before. Reforms of the Pasechnik played a cruel joke with her, not even advisers from the CIA helped. There are now Selyuki (graduates of the Kiev-Mohyla Academy) - professionalism at the Facebook level. Well, do you remember epic songs about terrorists who wanted to blow up a bridge with five grenades or about an FSB agent in a cloak and with daggers lol
      1. Gardener91
        Gardener91 11 January 2016 18: 33 New
        +2
        Well, duck, an intelligent ignoramus is worse than the plague. Hit him in the head that he was Svidomo and rushed-Cheka, GubChK, etc., I beg you, these are the most terrible people. Plus Ukrainian provincialism, immediacy and lack of education.
  4. Ozhogin Dmitry
    Ozhogin Dmitry 11 January 2016 07: 18 New
    31
    Yes, hammer a bolt to this Ukraine !!! Well, how much can you say about her? We have our own problems dofiga, we have to solve a lot of things. How long will they talk about her? Hammer, don’t write, don’t look, don’t read and everyone will forget about it. A lot of honor. We don’t need it like that. Even for nothing.
    1. Lelek
      Lelek 11 January 2016 07: 36 New
      19
      Quote: Ozhogin Dmitry
      Yes, hammer a bolt to this Ukraine !!! Well, how much can you say about her?


      And I would like to “score”, but h.o.kh.l.y remind of themselves with new, sophisticated antics. You start to doubt - are they actually people, and how did we get along with them before ???
      (cry.)
      1. Darkness
        Darkness 11 January 2016 07: 39 New
        +4
        There was a knock on the bottom again
    2. H_l_o_p_e_C
      H_l_o_p_e_C 11 January 2016 08: 57 New
      +2
      That's right, we need to think about ourselves and discuss our problems, we have enough of them
    3. Gato
      Gato 11 January 2016 15: 16 New
      +1
      Quote: Ozhogin Dmitry
      A lot of honor. We don’t need it like that. Even for nothing.

      So Moscow and zamkadnaya Russia is not needed. Not?
      1. Neogumanoyd
        Neogumanoyd 11 January 2016 21: 31 New
        0
        Well, are you so in vain about Moscow ... Look who 60% of domestic tourism fills ???
  5. The black
    The black 11 January 2016 07: 23 New
    10
    What is the tolerant name for "revolution of virtue" smile .... or, more precisely, "the revolution of the members", well, in the popular way - "revolution X ..." Well, the moderators will not let any further ... laughing
    1. Lelek
      Lelek 11 January 2016 07: 40 New
      30
      Quote: Black
      "revolution of merit"


      By the way, there is a good picture on this topic:
    2. Gato
      Gato 11 January 2016 14: 42 New
      +6
      Quote: Black
      tolerant name "revolution of merit"

      Officially, we call it "the revolution of honor and freedom" ("dignity and freedom").
      Unofficially, in the opinion of normal people: "ogidnosty and bastards" ("abominations and s.v.o.l.o.ch.")
      1. Pinockio
        Pinockio 11 January 2016 15: 17 New
        -8
        Gato Normal person, remove the flag of my Motherland with an avatar owl - you do not deserve this)))
        1. Simon
          Simon 11 January 2016 18: 44 New
          +1
          The guy told the truth that - do not like it!
  6. Vladislav 73
    Vladislav 73 11 January 2016 07: 26 New
    +1
    Foreign Minister Avakov ?? belayIt would be interesting to see Khrushchev pounding his shoe at the UN, and this one would probably throw glasses at international meetings ... Who is wrong about the 404-bang and a glass in Hail! I would instantly get out loans ... laughing
  7. Same lech
    Same lech 11 January 2016 07: 28 New
    +4
    ... The expected major New Year terrorist attack in Europe did not take place. Turkish special services allegedly handed over to German colleagues data on the impending terrorist act at the Munich railway station.


    smile Until it took place ... well, is it not funny ... thousands of ready-made suicide bombers are roaming around GERMANY, waiting for the explosives and the crew from above .... it's just a matter of time.
    1. Yars
      Yars 11 January 2016 17: 16 New
      0
      Quote: The same Lech
      ... The expected major New Year terrorist attack in Europe did not take place. Turkish special services allegedly handed over to German colleagues data on the impending terrorist act at the Munich railway station.


      smile Until it took place ... well, is it not funny ... thousands of ready-made suicide bombers are roaming around GERMANY, waiting for the explosives and the crew from above .... it's just a matter of time.

      the trouble is that not everyone in Germany understands this
  8. parusnik
    parusnik 11 January 2016 07: 31 New
    +1
    To finance a new "nationalist" revolution ... in the West there is no d.u.r.a.k.o. ... Here in Poland the nationalists came to power by legal means and the EU had problems ..
    1. orthodox71
      orthodox71 11 January 2016 09: 48 New
      +1
      Yes, it seems, they didn’t leave, just someone more, someone less or even a radical.
      I’m more interested in how the Germans still haven’t demanded their lands from the Poles? And they say that if svidomye enter the EU, they will have to give their property to the Poles. But the Poles have long been in the EU, and so far the Germans have figured out this topic. Weird
  9. aszzz888
    aszzz888 11 January 2016 07: 53 New
    +6
    Moscow in the conditions of such uncertainty adheres to the simple plan of the CCC - "eat yourself."


    Perhaps this option is one of the acceptable for us. But while the Nazis devour themselves, they will still drink human blood. And this process can take a long time, taking into account the tossing of money from the merchant and Co. And the Turks clap their hands there. they also spoil Russia - for joy.
  10. Foresterer
    Foresterer 11 January 2016 08: 09 New
    +1
    Gangrene began, devouring themselves, themselves and will poison more. But it seems that this monster is very survivable, so let them themselves drown themselves, shoot them, burn them, shoot them and have them. Maybe then on this ashes and dung that worthwhile will grow.
  11. Viktor fm
    Viktor fm 11 January 2016 08: 14 New
    +1
    This is the first time when I wish Ukraine, except for the unrecognized republics, bad, eat yourself.
    1. Petrol
      Petrol 11 January 2016 10: 53 New
      +6
      Viktor fm
      they will finish us for you!
      1. Vik66
        Vik66 11 January 2016 12: 09 New
        0
        Us, m ... lei, you just won’t take it! Teeth break off!
      2. Pinockio
        Pinockio 11 January 2016 15: 19 New
        -2
        Benzin Whoever needs you - you die yourself without the help of Roissy ...
        1. Antropos
          Antropos 11 January 2016 16: 17 New
          +1
          Would you go to the censor, wooden. Do not you, paskudnik, write about the Motherland. You can’t even imagine what it is.
          1. Pinockio
            Pinockio 11 January 2016 17: 59 New
            -2
            And what, only right-born people have their homeland ?! You are mistaken, humanoid)))
            1. evil partisan
              evil partisan 11 January 2016 18: 18 New
              +1
              Quote: Pinockio
              Is only the right-born a homeland?

              It’s rare, who admits that he was born wrong what ... Respect! hi Standing in the toilet, chtoli? belay I sympathize recourse .
  12. oracul
    oracul 11 January 2016 08: 22 New
    +3
    It is a long-known truth: the people deserve the government, the power that they have. The rest is either from not understanding (not wanting to understand) or from the evil one. It seems that the first and the second have merged into one for the majority of the inhabitants of the square, hence the futility of trying to reach their minds. I repeat, but "being determines consciousness." Needless to say, it is necessary to explain and appeal to understanding what is happening, but .... the decisive "word" will be behind being.
    1. Cap.Morgan
      Cap.Morgan 11 January 2016 09: 02 New
      +2
      If they relied on "being", then it would be necessary to simply plow, gradually accumulating national wealth and improving the political system.
      But no! The main thing here is "consciousness". It is ideology that is primary in this case and all this can rot for a very long time. They have already written a story about the great ukrov. In the media - a bacchanalia of lies and unscientific fiction.
      1. Egoza
        Egoza 11 January 2016 09: 25 New
        12
        Quote: Cap.Morgan
        It is ideology that is primary in this case, and all this can rot for a very long time. They already wrote a story about the great ukrov. In the media - a bacchanalia of lies and unscientific fiction.

        “Do you want to understand what Ukrainian informational schizophrenia is? - the political scientist asks. - Here is the “politics” section of the Ukrainian.Net agency feed for the last two hours. This is one of the most viewed news feeds in the country.
        09: 00 War, 09: 03 War, 09: 05 War, 09: 09 War, 09: 15 Corruption, 09: 17 War and 09: 26 War, 09: 30 War, 09: 35 War, 09: 45 Lustration, 09: 45 War, 09: 48 War, 09: 53 Corruption and crime, 09: 54 Corruption in elections, 09: 57 Corruption, 10, 02, NNX : 10 War; 05: 10 War; 10: 10 Corruption; 14: 10 War; 23: 10 War; 25: 10 , 26: 10 Bad Parliament, 29: 10 Corruption, 31: 10 War and Corruption, XN UMX: 36 Visa-free, 10: 37 War, 10: 39 War, 10: 39 War, 10: 39 Europe, 10: 43 Bad Parliament, 10: 46 Corruption, 10: 50 War.
        Thus, in two hours there are 45 references to political publications, reports Pwyv. Of these, 27 links are somehow related to military topics and armed conflict, the confrontation with the Russian Federation. More 11 affect corruption. 3 links that parliament does not work for us. Another link about Europe (EU), judicial reform, visa-free travel and lustration.
        1. Gato
          Gato 11 January 2016 14: 57 New
          +7
          You also forgot about the enchanting fight with shooting at Dragobrat: they asked the gentle and vulnerable (shell-shocked) dogs to pay for billets and booze - they were offended!
          And yes, the headlines are good:
          "Yatsenyuk denies agreement with Kolomoisky"
          "In Odessa, a man was imprisoned for an attempted coup"
          "b: The right sector will not get away with the carnage"
          "Tornado fighters issued an ultimatum to the police"
          "School was evacuated in Kharkov because of the" bomb "
          "In Kiev, extorted half a million hryvnia for the holidays in the center"
          "Fight in Transcarpathia: suspicion was announced to the SS soldiers" (Suspicion, Karl!)
          We are not bored! And you? drinks
          1. Pinockio
            Pinockio 11 January 2016 15: 22 New
            -7
            Gato And what do you want - as long as the country is full of people like you, there will be many problems. But they will end sooner or later. And those who will interfere, it is better to leave voluntarily)))
            1. Gato
              Gato 11 January 2016 15: 30 New
              +7
              Quote: Pinockio
              they will end sooner or later

              It's like you will end sooner or later. Due to careless handling of pomegranates and due to asshole posts.
              1. Gato
                Gato 11 January 2016 16: 50 New
                +4
                I forgot to add: there is still such a thing as natural selection. Fools, fanatics and galloping inadequate die first.
                1. Klos
                  Klos 11 January 2016 18: 03 New
                  +1
                  Still fanatically inadequate fools are jumping. Naturally, in a minefield.
            2. carbofo
              carbofo 11 January 2016 22: 46 New
              0
              I think that it is necessary to do what our ancestors did, all the Bandera people to the fence and give lead to the memory, then it will be ok for sure.
              1. Gato
                Gato 12 January 2016 12: 18 New
                0
                Quote: carbofo
                what our ancestors did, all Bandera to the fence and give lead in memory

                A lot of honor. Also spend ammo. Our ancestors simply hung them - there was such an order.
        2. Gardener91
          Gardener91 11 January 2016 15: 00 New
          +3
          Thank you Lena, respect, share, support. And where is the solution?
          1. Gato
            Gato 11 January 2016 16: 43 New
            +3
            Quote: Gardener91
            Where is the way out?

            I will try to answer instead of the respected Fidget.
            Any revolution ends with a dictatorship (and much stronger than the one before it).
            examples:
            - the very first bourgeois in England: ended with Cromwell and restoration
            - French: Napoleon and again restoration
            - Russian: by the dictatorship of the proletariat, but then everything seemed to go right at first - but ended as always
            - Ukrainian: it will end either with a dictatorship in the style of Jean-Bedel Bokassa, or a complete collapse in the style of a mini-USSR
            Wang, and cho bully
    2. Gato
      Gato 11 January 2016 17: 57 New
      +2
      Quote: oracul
      from the evil one. It seems that the first and second among the majority of the residents of the Square merged together, hence the futility of trying to reach their minds.

      From the evil one is the desire to simplify everything.
      Outside Ukraine there is nothing single. And there is such a suspicion that it never will be.
      But to consider yourself the most reasonable - also from the evil one. The hardest thing to get to your own mind.
  13. Dr. Barmaley
    Dr. Barmaley 11 January 2016 08: 25 New
    +9
    Today, the junta is hardly capable of a large-scale offensive in the Donbass


    1. avva2012
      avva2012 11 January 2016 09: 15 New
      0
      Somehow strange howitzer shoots, don’t you?
      The tilt is not the same, I can’t say anything about the length of the barrel, not the gunner. But, also, it seems, is not howitzer.
      1. KBR109
        KBR109 11 January 2016 10: 09 New
        +3
        MSTA-Towable. Well, your howitzer direct fire can not be?
        1. avva2012
          avva2012 11 January 2016 11: 04 New
          0
          Well, your howitzer direct fire can not be?
          It can of course, but it is intended, after all, for other purposes. I’m saying, not a gunner. For the information, thanks.
        2. gladcu2
          gladcu2 14 January 2016 23: 14 New
          0
          Not enough for Msta.

          What kind of system? I'm lost.

          A full charge on the D-30 is also scary to shoot.
      2. uragan114
        uragan114 11 January 2016 19: 09 New
        0
        Yes, she, the howitzer, put on direct fire.
        Heard before the shot "armata".
        They fired at an imaginary Buryat armored car wassat
    2. In search
      In search 11 January 2016 14: 09 New
      +4
      The tool needs to be cleaned on time, but apparently there are not enough brains for this.
      1. Former battalion commander
        Former battalion commander 11 January 2016 20: 10 New
        +1
        First, THIS IS NOT A HOWDOW. Secondly, the shell can be torn during firing for the following reasons:
        1. A projectile or fuse was dropped from a height of more than 1 m and it "cocked".
        2. When loading, the shell was NOT sent to the end.
        3. Diversion in the manufacture or storage of the fuse.
        1. KBR109
          KBR109 11 January 2016 23: 39 New
          0
          Will product 2A65 suit you more?
  14. Neophyte
    Neophyte 11 January 2016 08: 45 New
    +5
    We look forward to the final collapse of Krajina!
  15. Born in USSR
    Born in USSR 11 January 2016 09: 05 New
    +3
    Oh well, they are in one place. Right now, the krain will be robbed in a circle. And following the example of Muslims, they will rush into the Eropa. There they will soon begin to rob. And how to rob it without garrison lads. WE ARE SAME ...
  16. Egoza
    Egoza 11 January 2016 09: 27 New
    12
    A visa-free regime of Ukraine with the EU is fraught with a surge of a criminal element for Europe. Director of the Center for Eurasian Studies Vladimir Kornilov made such a forecast on his Facebook page.
    “There is a terrible noise in Germany about the pranks of African-Asian migrants in Cologne,” the political scientist recalled. “Wait, wait, you will open a visa-free entry for looters of all kinds of Aidars, Azov and other evil spirits - and then these pranks will seem like flowers to you.”
    1. Gato
      Gato 11 January 2016 15: 01 New
      +5
      Quote: Egoza
      and other evil spirits

      And then! Bandera even the Nazis preferred to keep in prison.
    2. Gardener91
      Gardener91 11 January 2016 15: 05 New
      +1
      It can be cooler, more radical in their methods. Exclude restitution and restore Galicia to Poland. Everything, Ambets to Europe according to Zhirinovsky.
  17. v.yegorov
    v.yegorov 11 January 2016 09: 50 New
    +1
    People who are too different in mentality inhabit Ukraine and, it seems, the "project Ukraine"
    coming to his demise.
    1. olimpiada15
      olimpiada15 11 January 2016 10: 36 New
      +3
      So the purpose of the project was originally the demise of Ukraine.
      The association with the EU and the active support of the Maidan were a way to destroy Ukraine and hook the Russian economy - Europe suggested that its goods passing through Ukrainian territory duty-free would come to us. The response of the Russian Federation in view of the transfer of the ruins from the FTA to the MFL caused the indignation of the EU because the main part of the plan failed when the EU and the Russian Federation did not connect the two FTA through Ukraine.
      The EU, of course, considers Russia to be completely fools, but it is our government officials who give reasons for this to be our country.
      Quote: v.yegorov
      People who are too different in mentality inhabit Ukraine and, it seems, the "project Ukraine"
      coming to his demise.
      1. Gato
        Gato 11 January 2016 15: 03 New
        +3
        Quote: olimpiada15
        So the purpose of the project was originally the demise of Ukraine.

        Look at the root.
        This is a common indirect action strategy. The goal of the project was and will be Russia from the very beginning (not in the sense of the Russian Federation, but Russia in the broad sense).
        1. Gardener91
          Gardener91 11 January 2016 15: 09 New
          0
          Well, Kievan Rus. And whose project?
          1. Gato
            Gato 11 January 2016 15: 20 New
            +1
            Kievan Rus

            There has never been such a self-name. This is the invention of historians. The primary sources were simply "Rus". From Ladoga to Kiev.
            1. Gardener91
              Gardener91 11 January 2016 17: 18 New
              +1
              And I’m talking about the really existing project "Kievan Rus." Where the wind is clear. Ambitious, delusional, but how it works and where we will start. If only it weren’t too late. In Ukraine, too, they just watched and amused their ambitions. Now it hurts. It hurts me personally.
              1. Gato
                Gato 11 January 2016 17: 47 New
                +4
                Quote: Gardener91
                Now it hurts. I personally really hurt.

                Similarly, colleague! No seriously.
                It is also painful and insulting for me to look at the Russians fighting the Russians.
                Such energy and aggressiveness would be spent on the fight against p.i.nd.so.sa.m.i and other euros.
  18. Kirielson
    Kirielson 11 January 2016 10: 15 New
    +1
    Quote: Egoza
    Wait, wait, you will open a visa-free entry for looters of all kinds of Aidars, Azov and other evil spirits - and then these pranks will seem like flowers to you. ”


    So maybe this makes a great sense. Russia financially crush. Mutual utilization of migrants and banderlogs (all kinds of Europe will not be divided). Well, at the same time, scare Europeans in the stall as well. All Americans are a joy.
  19. Victor Kamenev
    11 January 2016 10: 22 New
    +4
    ... When you remember now about Ukraine since its last legitimate president, Yanukovych, for all its flaws, you understand that he was not so bad. There is a Greek legend about the old woman Khimera, who praised her king, when everyone cursed him. She replied: from the one who comes after him, cry for real ...
  20. Erg
    Erg 11 January 2016 10: 36 New
    +4
    I am more worried about our country. I am sure that the reason for our troubles is economic dependence. For which we unfasten more than a hundred lards of American rubles annually, redeeming some kind of "Eurobonds", "loans", etc. Why can not we do without "investments"? I feel that they are making a fool of our brother ... The economy is "falling" and mansions are growing like mushrooms, our billionaires are being added to the "Forbes lists" ... I would like a sensible article. In a normal language.
    1. Gato
      Gato 11 January 2016 15: 24 New
      +1
      Quote: Erg
      I feel - they are fooling our brother ...

      So democracy is there! Compared to Forbes, the newspaper Pravda is generally an example of media integrity and independence. lol
  21. atamankko
    atamankko 11 January 2016 11: 28 New
    +1
    This mess will be long, a lot of weapons in the hands of Bandera and complete impunity.
    1. padded jacket
      padded jacket 11 January 2016 12: 37 New
      +6
      In the meantime, power is shared in Kiev. Russia begins to quietly recognize documents, including passports issued to the LPR for crossing the border. smile In all likelihood, when the situation in Ukraine worsens, the fact that our country recognizes the independence of Donbass, and possibly in cases of a referendum there and a positive decision by its residents and joining Russia following the example of the Crimea, is not at all excluded.
      1. Former battalion commander
        Former battalion commander 11 January 2016 20: 17 New
        -1
        That would be nice BUT! Putin is too weak and st ... um ... timid to do that. When this could have been done a long time ago, and bloodlessly "occupy" this territory up to Lviv (with 90% of the population's support), he was frankly stupid ... um ... got scared (it is not clear what is true). And now she is even more afraid ...
  22. Balagan
    Balagan 11 January 2016 12: 45 New
    +3
    In social networks, pictures of the Bandera concentration camp in the Donbass for Russian pig dogs were walking. It’s useful when they begin to release New Russia from under the ukrov occupation, and at least where it will contain banderlogs.
    1. uragan114
      uragan114 11 January 2016 21: 02 New
      0
      Quote: booth
      In social networks, pictures of the Bandera concentration camp in the Donbass for Russian pig dogs were walking. It’s useful when they begin to release New Russia from under the ukrov occupation, and at least where it will contain banderlogs.


      Here this p..eeeeeeeeee lights up.
      http://voicesevas.ru/news/ukraine/19663-ukrainskiy-soldat-pokazal-fotografii-kon
      clagerya-dlya-russkih-svinosobak.html
  23. Comrade Glebov
    Comrade Glebov 11 January 2016 13: 02 New
    10
    I already foresee a mountain of minuses, but to be honest, it’s painful and disgusting to read such lines:
    "Moscow, in the face of such uncertainty, adheres to a simple SSS plan -" eat yourself up "...
    Unfortunately, such a position in the style of "ourselves ...", "ourselves ..." or "with themselves" Moscow has been occupying for a very long time and in all directions. I don’t want to say anything bad about Comrade Lavrov, he is without a doubt a diplomat with a capital letter and his achievements cannot be belittled, but in general, Russia's foreign policy on the near borders raises big questions. Having lived almost all his life in Kyrgyzstan and working with the embassies of different countries, he had never seen more mediocre workers than Russian diplomats. Being a Soviet man, a Russian upbringing, I say this with the greatest regret. If it were not for the absolute number of people in Kyrgyzstan who had a good attitude towards Russia and Russians — it would not have supported joining the CU — Kyrgyzstan doesn’t produce anything, it makes no sense to expand the market, on the contrary, if there is a shortage of cheap Chinese goods, most of the population (and already poor) will simply die out. The country's leadership was simply bribed once again and there was no sign of any pro-Russian position (the example of Yanukovych is more than eloquent) - tomorrow the same Americans will come and buy it again or throw it off with another "Maidan", if strategically necessary. But what can I say, if it were not for the Chinese policy in the region, which displaces on all fronts Russian and American, then long ago - after the first Maidan "revolution of dignity" which we had two, if we count successful ones) the region would have plunged into a similar Ukrainian chaos. And therefore, observing Moscow’s self-exclusion from working with Ukraine on the principle of “eat yourself,” I conclude either about lack of will or about the weakness of the apparatus of influence of the Russian leadership. The Russian leadership is to a large extent guilty of what is happening on our (our) lands of Ukraine, guilty of the death of our Ukrainian people, guilty not because it is Russian and not because the psaki said so, but because it withdrew from responsibility for what is happening in the region. Russia is the only possible defender of all small fraternal peoples in the post-Soviet space and responsibility is only on it. Russia is the only power, the only power that is able to influence the processes in the Ukrainian state in the interests of the Russian people, which could prevent the Maidan of 2014 and prevent the bloody circus led by Poroshenko-Yatsenyuk from coming to power if the Maidan of 2008 was held under the slogan "Ukraine is tse Russia!" with the subsequent reunification of our lands. But either they didn’t want to, or (in which little is believed) they couldn’t. Each soldier of the Armed Forces of Ukraine who died in the "cauldron" is a person who could stand shoulder to shoulder with the rest of the Russian soldiers to defend peace; every militia killed, civilian of the Donbass republics is a victim of the political lack of will of the Moscow leadership. The success of the videoconferencing in Syria is very encouraging - the right move, a spectacular move, but I would like to see an effective manifestation of political (and if necessary military) strength and will in Central Asia, Ukraine, and the Baltic countries - OUR people are everywhere there.
    1. Pulya
      Pulya 12 January 2016 05: 37 New
      0
      Finally, an adequate post ...
      Yours faithfully! !!! !!!!!!
  24. Comrade Glebov
    Comrade Glebov 11 January 2016 13: 23 New
    +6
    Quote: quilted jacket
    Apparently, when the situation in Ukraine worsens, the fact of recognition by our country of the independence of Donbass and possibly in cases of a referendum there and a positive decision of its residents and joining Russia as an example of Crimea

    Forgive me, please, but what previously prevented the DPR and LPR from being recognized as independent? And the referendum was there, I remember. And in the Russian Federation they asked and waited for the Russian army. Oh yes! There is no Black Sea Fleet. And if there is no Black Sea Fleet, there is nothing equivalent in value (people do not count - for Chubais and in Russia there are too many extra hungry mouths), then, excuse me, what the hell is this Donbass for? Forgive me for being too "liberal", but there are too few Russians in the Russian government to recognize Donbass as independent.
    1. Scud
      Scud 11 January 2016 13: 45 New
      -1
      Comrade Glebov, reliable information would not hurt for your categorization. But she-infa does not appear immediately. Russia has not yet grown so strong that it would be in one fell swoop beating the adversary.
      1. Pulya
        Pulya 12 January 2016 05: 41 New
        0
        In order to fight and win - you need strength of mind and character, but physical. power is secondary !!!
        Verified more than once by our grandfathers and great-grandfathers
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    4. padded jacket
      padded jacket 11 January 2016 16: 52 New
      +2
      Quote: Comrade Glebov
      And the referendum was there, remember

      But was there a referendum on joining Russia seems only about independence.
      Quote: Comrade Glebov
      Excuse me, please, what used to prevent recognition of the DPR and LPR as independent?

      In fact, the republics are at war and part of their territory is under the occupation of the Kiev regime.
      If we officially recognize them, it will in any case now mean a war with Ukraine, since it does not recognize their independence. we need a serious precedent or an attack by Ukrainian troops with mass "death" of the population, or the start of a war with the liberation of the people of Donbass throughout the country and a subsequent referendum asking for accession.
      Quote: Comrade Glebov
      why the hell do you need this Donbass

      Donbass will somehow be either independent or part of Russia.
  25. Scud
    Scud 11 January 2016 13: 28 New
    +4
    Do not forget that long ago the Anglo-Saxons act only on one principle, there is no method against scrap, and blaming Russia for something that didn’t do it in Dill is stupid. Amerikosy and the western elite use double-triple standards, an impudent and pandering lie. This will lead to unpredictable cataclysms in these countries.
  26. 4ekist
    4ekist 11 January 2016 13: 39 New
    +1
    Forward, banderlog heroes, to a new revolution.
  27. Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 11 January 2016 13: 44 New
    +1
    Considering that all other doubtful-festive occasions in Ukraine were accompanied without fail by any poop; and February 22 will certainly be accompanied by mass races, tents, tires. The only question is whether the tires will be accompanied by Molotov cocktails, and the tents - by grenades.

    Another major financier "national"Something is not visible indignation; and without funding, no grandmothers will provide the Maidan with pies. laughing
  28. STEALS
    STEALS 11 January 2016 13: 52 New
    +1
    "Several participants in the New Year's party, hosted in one of the Kiev clubs with imitation of the actions of ISIS terrorists, was continued - several participants committed suicide under strange circumstances." - reports the Ukrainian edition of "Vesti".

    "At present, the investigation of strange incidents is underway, in which the SBU of Ukraine also takes part. The resident of Kiev, who portrayed the executioner of ISIS at the evening, is also dead. Earlier, the personal data of the participants of this event were published on the Kiev forums. hastily left Ukraine "- says the host.
  29. Valery 1966
    Valery 1966 11 January 2016 13: 55 New
    +1
    All this epic with a coup will end as suddenly as it began. The United States will simply blame quietly and the whole elite will follow them, and they already have citizenship, but besides Saakashvili, oddly enough, he is a patriot of Ukraine.
  30. Al ssz
    Al ssz 11 January 2016 16: 30 New
    0
    Quiet Ukrainian night .. Who wrote these words.? Explicitly "" ..
  31. GeorgeSev85
    GeorgeSev85 11 January 2016 16: 42 New
    +2
    Quote: Benzin
    the city of lions is not a goat

    Well, tell me how they love Russians in Lviv and don’t want to go to Europe ...
  32. Dam
    Dam 11 January 2016 18: 24 New
    +1
    Simulacrum country. And the president is not real and the patriots dream of escaping through the open curtain to Geyropa, even Ukrainian Jewish Nazis. Even a bander of a bandera would hang himself from longing
  33. koshmarik
    koshmarik 11 January 2016 18: 46 New
    +2
    I think that the Russophobic and anti-Russian ideas hammered into the heads of the majority of Ukrainians, besides being fueled by official propaganda and backed up by the forceful actions of the right sector, are still operating quite effectively. Therefore, the country does not have a strong enough pro-Russian opposition, and the activities of the government in exile of Azarov are not very productive. A significant part of Ukrainians are ready for hardships in the name of a "bright" European future. As long as the US and the EU keep the Ukrainian ox on this carrot, the state of affairs will not change significantly. Unfortunately, there are no forces capable of changing the situation in Ukraine, since the social strata on which they could rely are far from ripe.
  34. Comrade Glebov
    Comrade Glebov 11 January 2016 18: 49 New
    +2
    Quote: scud
    Comrade Glebov, reliable information would not hurt for your categorization. But she-infa does not appear immediately. Russia has not yet grown so strong that it would be in one fell swoop beating the adversary.

    And what reliable information, if not secret, do you want? Reliable information on the work of diplomats? All that I observed myself (and on this, believe me, one can build an opinion about the work in the republic as a whole) I can provide you. Alas, you cannot see this in official sources. No one will happily report to you that the south of the Kyrgyz Republic has almost forgotten the Russian language, speaks either Kyrgyz or English. In Kyrgyz - because it’s native, in English - because the US Embassy spends huge money on teaching the language and imposing Western values. The Embassy of the Russian Federation, alas and ah, is ready to subscribe to any action for the development of the Russian language and culture in the country (and knowledge of the Russian language is one of the main conditions for the integration of the local population along with the territory into the rest of Russia), if at the same time, apart from signing, nothing has to be done , and the main thing is not to spend a penny. It's very funny when the embassy "arranges" an event (in fact, patriotic organizations like the Slavic Foundation are working on the embassy) and seeks out performers who will work "for the idea." I am not against working for an idea, and more than once I have participated in these events that is why I am familiar with the intricacies of Russian diplomacy, but, for example, one event with the embassy of the United States, Spain, Italy or Germany can bring a Kyrgyz citizen a profit of six months' salary. Even the Ukrainians, with whom I worked very fruitfully until 2014, and they pay and respect those with whom they work. In general, the behavior of diplomats deserves a separate mention. Here is just one case that happened during a concert at the Kyrgyz opera dedicated to the Great Victory Day (unfortunately I don't remember exactly which year, at 12 or 13). A song sounded from the stage, in the text of which were the words "to fight for Stalin." Hearing Stalin's name, the Russian ambassador and his retinue got up and left the hall. Demonstratively, green with anger. The hall was also attended by diplomats from the USA, Belarus and Ukraine, they listened to the concert to the end. I personally was very ashamed that the Russian people would be associated with such degenerates. Examples like this are the sea. As for "Russia is not yet strong," I will say this: I am not talking about the need to beat everyone at once, but it is necessary to end the violent imitation of activity. In Syria, they could! And in their native Ukraine - they pissed away, although there was enough time and opportunities. The death of Ukraine, which is becoming more and more inevitable, is the defeat of Russia; one can only mitigate the losses.

    Quote: quilted jacket
    But was there a referendum on joining Russia seems only about independence.

    Dear, what kind of referendum on joining Russia could be if Russia itself does not recognize them as an independent political entity? It is South Ossetia that can hold such a referendum, and the DNI and LC - alas!
    Quote: quilted jacket
    Donbass will somehow be either independent or part of Russia.

    Donbass should not be independent! It should be part of Ukraine, which should be part of Russia. And for our peace and prosperity with you, it is desirable that the Russian city of Warsaw, along with the Slavic Poles and all of Poland (not all of them Russophobes and villains, as you understand) be a subject of the Russian Federation. But for now, it's unscientific fiction.
  35. Scud
    Scud 11 January 2016 19: 25 New
    0
    Comrade Glebov. You can’t be a diplomat to see many troubles in Russia. It’s easiest to point out and point out really mistakes. And then how? After all, in fact and in fact, Russia alone is surrounded by the Entente. So let everyone in their place together! One question is there, at a concert after leaving your diplomas, what did you take? Probably went on a hunger strike?
  36. Comrade Glebov
    Comrade Glebov 11 January 2016 19: 43 New
    +1
    Quote: scud
    One question is there, at a concert after leaving your diplomas, what did you take? Probably went on a hunger strike?

    I am not obliged to answer for the actions of the diplomats, and a hunger strike here will not help in the least. What have I done? And I participated in this concert, paying tribute to the feat of my and your ancestors, paying tribute to the Supreme Commander. I, as I could, supported in my compatriots the memory of our common great past, without which we have no future, I, to the best of my ability, recalled who we should be, what we should learn, who should be an example for us. Not much, but not enough talent and brains for more. What about
    Quote: scud
    You can not be a diplomat to see many troubles in Russia. It’s easiest to point out and point out really mistakes. And then how?
    :
    It is necessary to criticize what is, to put it mildly, worthless in us. Not in order to humiliate and convict anyone, but in order to attract the attention of those who have the authority to CORRECT as much as possible. Our diplomacy is an advanced detachment, the purpose of which is to occupy important positions on the world gaming board, today (as always, however) depends on diplomacy no less than on the power of weapons. And that is why gagging, sloppy and incomplete returns in this area will turn out to be no less losses for us in the future than today in Ukraine. If you can offer something better and more efficiently, then tell me, I am always ready to hear.
  37. Scud
    Scud 11 January 2016 20: 21 New
    0
    I do not criticize Russia and therefore do not propose anything, although there is some way. I do not agree on something with you, which means I object. I have absolute faith in the President of Russia, and as they say, the Motherland hears, the Motherland knows ...
  38. Comrade Glebov
    Comrade Glebov 11 January 2016 20: 33 New
    +3
    Quote: scud
    I do not criticize Russia and therefore do not propose anything, although there is some way. I do not agree on something with you, which means I object. I have absolute faith in the President of Russia, and as they say, the Motherland hears, the Motherland knows ...

    Dear SCAD! I respect your faith in the president, although I do not share it. But whether you like it or not, Russia does not end with Putin, he is not the ambassador who spoils the image of the country in the eyes of the brotherly people, and he is not the head of Rusnano, into which a lot of money is poured, and the "exhaust" is zero. Meanwhile, both Rusnano and Chubais and the crooked embassy staff are part of Russia, for all my indignation. And if you do not criticize them, and even more, you do not agree that they should be criticized for quite real "shoals", then you support Chubais who has "a lot of money" in contrast to pensioners and state employees, as well as idiots at the trough , which, unfortunately, are many. However, your sacred right.
    1. Kuzyakin15
      Kuzyakin15 11 January 2016 22: 26 New
      0
      Comrade Glebov:
      Thanks you!
      Hats off to you!
      Sincerely.
  39. tracer
    tracer 11 January 2016 23: 02 New
    0
    The more they collide, the more I understand that the basis of fascism is colossal egoism. It is he who is the fuel for inciting hatred. The "Western" psychology of selfishness and servility rules ... Let it not be the first time that they themselves eat it.
  40. Neogumanoyd
    Neogumanoyd 11 January 2016 23: 32 New
    +1
    How tired already about Ukraine !!! Forgive me, well, every day is the same ... Previously, in the "comments" on "VO" it was possible for weapons, history, politics, space, etc. ... to talk until lovers of laughing at Ukraine, with their idiotic pictures, schadenfreude, caricatures .... Zadolbali! The events in Ukraine no longer evoke any emotions in me, I have been there only a few times in my life ... Why are we not so actively discussing the neighboring DPRK here, who is there except Comrade Eun ??? Maybe there is also enough "funny".