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Media: Gaddafi warned Europe, but he was not listened

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The Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi at one time warned former British Prime Minister Tony Blair about the dangers of Islamist extremism for Europe. This became known from the transcript of telephone conversations of two politicians, which were published by the Foreign Affairs Committee of the British Parliament, the newspaper Telegraph.




Gaddafi told Blair 25 on February that Libya was already in turmoil, and that he was trying to protect the people from al-Qaida. “We are not attacking them, they are attacking us. I want to tell you the truth. This situation is not so confusing, everything is simple: dormant cells of Al-Qaeda organization appeared in North Africa. Sleeping cells in Libya are similar to those that were in America on the eve of September 11 ", - quotes RIA News Libyan leader.

“They [jihadists] got hold of weapon and terrify people. People cannot leave their homes. But the real picture is not provided, there are no foreign correspondents. We asked all world reporters to come and see the truth. These are armed gangs. It is impossible to agree with them, ”he added.

"They want to control the Mediterranean and then attack Europe," Gaddafi warned.

“Three weeks after this conversation, a coalition of Western countries, including Britain, began to inflict air strikes on Libya, which led to the overthrow of Muammar Gaddafi,” the newspaper reminds.

At the same time, the Telegraph notes that Tony Blair "twice called Gaddafi, trying to persuade him to leave Libya."

“Gaddafi’s warnings seem confirmed,” the article says. “After its overthrow, Libya collapsed and is still engulfed in civil war.” Many territories are controlled by Islamist extremists associated with the Islamic State grouping. The terrorists, sent by the IG to France, committed terrorist attacks in Paris in November. ”

The head of the parliamentary committee, Crispin Blunt, said that as part of the investigation of the Libyan events, the “prophetic warning of Gaddafi” will also be considered. According to him, “the evidence currently available suggests that Western politicians were less perceptive than Gaddafi regarding the risks of intervention for both the Libyan people and the interests of the West.”
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  1. svp67
    svp67 8 January 2016 10: 16
    30
    He warned, warned - but who listened to him. He was independent and very much interfered with all the leaders, and therefore he was removed, and no one thought about the bad consequences.
    1. captain
      captain 8 January 2016 10: 25
      56
      By the way, if I’m not mistaken, Russia, represented by President Medvedev, supported the bombing of Libya at that moment. We must pay tribute to Putin, he opposed. I have been alarmed recently by the frequent appearances of D, A, Medvedev on television and his solo visits to the World. Will he again become president?
      1. Junior, I
        Junior, I 8 January 2016 10: 31
        88
        God forbid DAME to become a prezik again.
        I'd rather spoil the ballot than vote for it.
        1. Egoza
          Egoza 8 January 2016 10: 40
          36
          Quote: Younger, I
          God forbid DAME to become a prezik again.

          Well, Rabinovich is sure he will. Only then it is not necessary to say “the people chose themselves,” as many say about Ukraine. Although if there is no alternative at all, then where should the people go? unless Rabinovich be elected immediately. lol
          However, I want to note that in the most difficult times in Russia always appeared suddenly PERSONALITIES who could defend its interests. Let's hope that this time will appear.
          1. SRC P-15
            SRC P-15 8 January 2016 10: 44
            21
            And I believe Putin. He will not admit to the presidency of Medvedev. Well then, all his work was down the drain. And he probably understands this. It’s one thing to give the country control over temporarily and quite another thing - to give the country to be torn to pieces.
            1. svp67
              svp67 8 January 2016 10: 57
              38
              Quote: СРЦ П-15
              And I believe Putin.

              I also
              Quote: СРЦ П-15
              He will not admit to the presidency of Medvedev.

              And here there are HUGE doubts. Well, he does not solve everything in our country. He often has to go "to meet the wishes" ... otherwise Medvedev would not have been prime minister for a long time, and Serdyukov and Co. and many others would now see themselves in a completely different guise. So let's wait and see. Although personally I will vote AGAINST Medvedev, I do not consider him a person with the necessary set of strong-willed qualities to govern a country like Russia.
              1. SRC P-15
                SRC P-15 8 January 2016 11: 05
                +5
                Quote: svp67
                And here there are HUGE doubts. Well, not everything he decides in our country.

                If it were as you say, then those "who in our country decide" would not have allowed Putin to join the current presidency. Remember what was the struggle and sling mud at Vladimir Vladimirovich before the elections. But it did not work out in their language - it means that Putin has a team and will have to reckon with it in the future.
                1. svp67
                  svp67 8 January 2016 11: 19
                  +9
                  Quote: СРЦ П-15
                  then those "who decide in our country" would not have allowed Putin to join the current presidency.

                  I’m not going to enter into a debate with you on this topic, but you just think about it, and how did it happen that EBN, a very suspicious person, is so easy to him and consider your life and the life of your relatives. So someone vouched for him that would not fail.
                  1. SRC P-15
                    SRC P-15 8 January 2016 11: 36
                    10
                    Quote: svp67
                    how did it happen that EBN, a man very suspicious so easily power to him and consider your life and the life of your relatives. So someone vouched for him that would not fail.

                    Can you tell me who Putin was in 1998-1999? Is it the director of the FSB? From here and dance. The former KGB vouched for Putin, or rather people from this organization, who were not indifferent to the future fate of Russia. Have you noticed how many "former KGB workers" are around our president?
                    The minus is not mine.
                    1. svp67
                      svp67 8 January 2016 11: 40
                      +2
                      Quote: СРЦ П-15
                      Have you noticed how many "former KGB workers" are around our president?

                      Let's just say that from various power structures. And this is not always good for the cause ... alas.
                      Quote: СРЦ П-15
                      The minus is not mine.

                      Yes, I have the opportunity to find out whose.
                      To the representative of sunny Moldova hi
                      1. SRC P-15
                        SRC P-15 8 January 2016 11: 49
                        +2
                        Quote: svp67
                        To the representative of sunny Moldova

                        You are mistaken, I am from the Moscow region! yes hi
                      2. svp67
                        svp67 8 January 2016 11: 57
                        0
                        Quote: СРЦ П-15
                        You are mistaken, I am from the Moscow region!

                        No, I was not mistaken, I just expressed my thought poorly. The representative of sunny Moldova - set minus.
                      3. Tatyana
                        Tatyana 8 January 2016 13: 31
                        +1
                        From the text of the article
                        Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi warned former British Prime Minister Tony Blair on the dangers of Islamist extremism for Europe.
                        Yes, no one simply believed in bad consequences! All learn only from their mistakes. Everyone thinks that he is smarter than others. And it would be okay if a person is only responsible for his life, but politicians and officials are responsible for the lives of citizens of their country! For this, they, moreover, will still receive a salary from the society and appropriate rewards!
                        It’s bad when a politician or an official is guided in solving state problems only by his personal interests, forgetting that he is in the service of his people. Even worse, when he betrays his people and surrenders him and his country to other powers.
                        Tony Blair "twice called Gaddafi, trying to persuade him to leave Libya."
                        This suggests that the British Tony Bleer knew the fate of Libya and Gaddafi. In principle, he even, in his own way, wanted to save Gaddafi himself. But Gaddafi deliberately stayed with his people and shared the fate of Libya.
                        "The current evidence suggests that Western politicians were less insightful than Gaddafi, regarding the risks of intervention for both the Libyan people and for the interests of the West».
                        And this is a wrong judgment.
                        Western politicians are well aware of what they are doing, but they are not serving their countries.
                        Here, the whole thing, firstly, in different ideologies of different people. Ideology lays in a person a program of his behavior in society, like a program in a computer, even before he has his own life experience. And secondly, in addition to this, it also also depends on the personal qualities of a person, which is studied by psychology.
                        Taken together, the philosophical system and psychology of the individual and the masses constitute ethnopsychology that characterizes various ethnic groups and societies (groups) in the world governance system.

                        It should be noted that the study of psychology as a scientific discipline for a long time in the USSR was not given due attention. Yes, not paid now. Otherwise, Varvara Karaulova and her kind would not have been in Russia.
                      4. avva2012
                        avva2012 8 January 2016 14: 39
                        +2
                        This suggests that the British Tony Bleer knew the fate of Libya and Gaddafi.
                        Naturally I knew. But, at one time, he, that is, Gaddafi, paid for "consultations" to T. Bleer, which he gave to Gaddafi's son, to get those, something there, several million dollars. Evil tongues say that the consultations were like this: "The UN, this is good, this organization organizes everything that is good in the civilized world ..."
                        It should be noted that the study of psychology as a scientific discipline for a long time in the USSR was not given due attention. Yes, not paid now. Otherwise, Varvara Karaulova and her kind would not have been in Russia.
                        Military psychology, they say, is the best in the world. But, this, between us, t-ss!
              2. Mavrikiy
                Mavrikiy 8 January 2016 13: 38
                +7
                SRC P-15
                "The former KGB vouched for Putin"
                By and large, what's the difference who and how vouched for Putin then, and did he vouch or stupidly put a gun? The second is even more impressive.
                The main thing is that we are not going where EBN led. And we look forward to further course changes from Putin. I constantly hear him moving cautiously as he plays a chess game. Until he moves forward 10 moves, he will not move. To be sure that he knows what he wants.
                1. asiat_61
                  asiat_61 8 January 2016 19: 34
                  +5
                  And what about the EBN museum or center, the name is not important. For the vast majority, the EBN is the enemy of the human race.
                2. 2С5
                  2С5 9 January 2016 23: 50
                  +3
                  ... for the "non-overwhelming majority" he is apparently still a "forerunner" ... I'm talking about liberals and the like ... they are still robbing the country, but in my opinion it is more likely "by inertia" ... they cannot stop and that's all ... but closer and closer to the wall ..
                3. Starley from the south
                  Starley from the south 10 January 2016 01: 44
                  +2
                  Quote: asiat_61
                  And what about the EBN museum or center, the name is not important. For the vast majority, the EBN is the enemy of the human race.

                  It is impossible to judge a person, any person unambiguously, because people are changing. EBN, apparently, understood what he had done in the country and decided to leave himself. And this is the most important positive deed in his life. Whether he outweighs his negative deeds - the future will show when we can calmly look at all these events. And the museum of his name was not worth creating.
              3. avia1991
                avia1991 9 January 2016 00: 57
                +1
                Quote: Mavrikiy
                To be sure that he knows what he wants.
                In-of! This is the whole plug! wink
                Moreover, what HE WANTS - he knows, I'm sure. There is no certainty that his desires are intertwined with the desires of ordinary Russians ..
          2. soaring
            soaring 8 January 2016 13: 06
            0
            I’m not going to enter into a debate with you on this topic, but you just think about it, and how did it happen that EBN, a very suspicious person, is so easy to him and consider your life and the life of your relatives. So someone vouched for him that would not fail.
            And he, EBN, went to Vanga and she told him in great secret that the best of the candidates is the GDP! Didn’t they know about it !? wink winked
            1. avia1991
              avia1991 9 January 2016 01: 00
              0
              Quote: soaring
              And he, EBN, went to Vanga

              Yes, give up on fooling people! laughing
              EBN did not go to Vanga, he was afraid to hear the truth. He sent the envoy on his own behalf .. and whoever "blew" into the ears of the envoy on the way - this History is silent. wink
          3. gergi
            gergi 8 January 2016 18: 09
            +2
            It seems that EBN had no choice.
          4. 2С5
            2С5 9 January 2016 23: 40
            0
            ... quite possibly didn’t justify their aspirations and only ... we don’t know all the undercover Kremlin somersaults and now we have what we have ... I want to hope that the GDP is not EBN and the states are not controlled ... everything shows that so, but politics is a subtle thing, much finer than a mosquito penis and in order to move and stir something in it oh how to dodge it is necessary ...
      2. Tersky
        Tersky 8 January 2016 11: 15
        +7
        Quote: svp67
        I do not consider him a person with the necessary set of strong-willed qualities for managing such a country as Russia.

        Well, why is it so biased, on an iPhone like two fingers ... yes
        1. svp67
          svp67 8 January 2016 11: 21
          +2
          Quote: Tersky
          Well, why is it so biased, on an iPhone like two fingers ..

          A huge country, this is not an American trinket, you cannot control it with "two fingers", otherwise they will quickly come and chop them off to the very neck ...
          1. Tersky
            Tersky 8 January 2016 11: 41
            +3
            Quote: svp67
            American trinket, this is not a huge country, you cannot control it with "two fingers",

            Well, so am I about the same ...
            Quote: svp67
            otherwise they’ll come quickly and chop them off to the very neck ...

            It will be a holiday, oh, if they cut into pieces, they will start not with fingers ...
            1. Weyland
              Weyland 8 January 2016 18: 57
              0
              Quote: Tersky
              Now, if they chop, they will be pieces, and they will start not with fingers ...


              Why is this? If you are about lynching (not to be confused with lynching! smile ) - then they start with the fingers, one phalanx at a time ... In principle, if you reach both elbows and, accordingly, the knees, then you don't have to continue - let him live on ... the Scandinavians called it "heimnar"
        2. Minstrel
          Minstrel 8 January 2016 11: 28
          +3
          Quote: Tersky
          Well, why is it so biased, on an iPhone like two fingers ...

          Unless he falls asleep in the process, as he usually does. laughing
      3. nrex
        nrex 8 January 2016 14: 27
        +3
        Do not forget about Shoigu. This is a very strong personality and one of the most persistent ministers. All the Kremlin backstage is not a secret for him. In addition, he is in greater favor with GDP than DM. And he has the greatest influence and power. I think he will be the next.
        1. Dalmatia
          Dalmatia 8 January 2016 14: 41
          +3
          Not one Shoigu, you can try on Lavrov to the post of president of Russia.
        2. DPN
          DPN 8 January 2016 19: 42
          +2
          Shoigu will not pass, In any case, the wrong suit.
          1. Starley from the south
            Starley from the south 10 January 2016 01: 48
            0
            Quote: DPN
            Shoigu will not work,

            Rather, it will not work. But it seems to me that Putin will still surprise us all when, before the end of his second term, he will pull out a dark horse, for example, the same Strelkov-Girkin, as a receiver.
        3. avia1991
          avia1991 9 January 2016 01: 14
          +3
          Quote: nrex
          This is a very strong personality and one of the most persistent ministers.

          The Minister is steadfast, right. But he is not the President! He is the Minister, the performer, conscientious enough not to steal, and devoted enough to lead the MO. However, he is not the leader of the country!
          Frankly, I personally do not see a leader. There are several more or less conscientious managers who, when changing the strategy to revitalize their own economy, can quite cope with this. And there’s a big bunch of jerkers whose goal is maximum personal profit, for the time allotted for tenure .. But there is no one who really seeks to act on development in their "area of ​​responsibility" - everyone is waiting for "instructions from above", and does NOT MORE what is needed to fulfill them .. well, unless that Shoigu is trying to stay ahead of the curve, using greater freedom of action.
          There is no real Leader in this code, except for the existing one.
          1. Starley from the south
            Starley from the south 10 January 2016 01: 54
            0
            Quote: avia1991
            Frankly, I personally do not see a leader.

            So maybe leadership inclinations are not visible to us, outside of Moscow, outside the Garden Ring. And on the other hand, what we need most is not a leader, but a team.
      4. Starley from the south
        Starley from the south 10 January 2016 01: 34
        0
        Quote: svp67
        Well, not everything he decides in our country.

        And who decides? Are the Jews really? Nevertheless, I think that Putin decides a lot, a lot depends on him. This is not always good - it is necessary for others, especially in the field. also did something. Putin simply does not make sudden movements, unlike Yeltsin, and bends his line smoothly and imperceptibly. And we have the desired result later.
    2. Stirbjorn
      Stirbjorn 8 January 2016 13: 09
      +4
      Quote: СРЦ П-15
      And I believe Putin. He will not admit to the presidency of Medvedev. Well then, all his work was down the drain.

      And that he still holds it in premieres ?! wassat
      1. cap
        cap 8 January 2016 21: 10
        +3
        Quote: Stirbjorn
        Quote: СРЦ П-15
        And I believe Putin. He will not admit to the presidency of Medvedev. Well then, all his work was down the drain.

        And that he still holds it in premieres ?! wassat


        "Engaging in development means starting changes, and no one knows what this will lead to. To develop more means, to put it bluntly, to steal less. And to prohibit stealing means robbing most of the ruling crowd. But our president is a democrat and a humanist, and these are two of his main troubles. He is a democrat because he listens to the people around him, and a humanist because he pities them. We in Russia are generally humanists - we show humanism towards criminals, not realizing that we are thereby showing cruelty towards their victims, especially future.

        It is not easy to rob the ruling class, they will resist, but they have the resources for this. To deprive them of these resources means to deprive them of social capital, position, and political influence. That is, to rob not only financially, but also institutionally and socially. And they will still resist. But even if these are removed, then new ones are needed in their place. And while these new ones will be found and will still make their mistakes, difficult times await the country. You can recall what the Stalinist appointees did until an effective team was found by poking.

        The main thing is that all this means for the leader of the country to start life from scratch. But with these people he lived, if not all his life, then half his life or a quarter. Throw them out and recruit who knows whom? The new ones will be in many ways really worse. The current ones were at least born in the USSR, they had some kind of inoculation of humanism, responsibility, management skills. And you will have to take the victims of the exam. "
        Mikhail Delyagin: “Small and medium-sized businesses in Russia are cleaned up in two brooms.” Http://www.business-gazeta.ru/article/298597
    3. Oorfene Deuce
      Oorfene Deuce 8 January 2016 13: 24
      +3
      Quote: СРЦ П-15
      And I believe Putin.

      But I’m not already.
      Quote: СРЦ П-15
      He will not admit to the presidency of Medvedev.

      Many at one time believed that for Feldmebel Serdyukov "fruitful activity" in state organizations was ordered.
      Quote: СРЦ П-15
      And he probably understands this.

      And then!
    4. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 8 January 2016 13: 29
      +4
      Quote: СРЦ П-15
      And he probably understands it

      yah? and what then does the TOT in the government do ???
      1. SRC P-15
        SRC P-15 8 January 2016 13: 48
        +3
        Quote: Andrey Yurievich
        yah? and what then does the TOT in the government do ???

        Medvedev did not go to the next election? - So he kept his word to Putin. And Putin keeps his word to Medvedev: do not touch him until the end of this term of presidency. That is why, I think, the TOT is also in the government, however sad it may be for us to know.
    5. asiat_61
      asiat_61 8 January 2016 19: 25
      0
      Then why not expel? Washington regional committee does not order?
    6. 2С5
      2С5 9 January 2016 23: 35
      +1
      ... GDP during the "reign" of the iPhone was a "gray eminence" and under EBN, most likely, too (this is so, an individual guess) and it is unlikely that something will prevent it from being them in any future "prezik" ...
  2. svp67
    svp67 8 January 2016 10: 53
    +2
    Madam hi
    Quote: Egoza
    Well, Rabinovich is sure that he will.

    Hu from Rabinovich?
    Is this the one who comes up with jokes about the Jews? So I’ll say the following, jokes on 4, you can still laugh, and predictions on 1 ... are stupid, not interesting and not even funny.
  3. HAM
    HAM 8 January 2016 11: 07
    +4
    Rabinovich relies on "closed sources", and this is Ksenia Sobakina, she is starting to promote herself. One of the Sergeevs will make a good prime minister.
    1. S-17
      S-17 8 January 2016 11: 37
      +4
      I beg of you! Is this not the same Sergeev who was the head of the Moscow region in the 00s? Well, yes, he will rule the country, as well as the ministry, his famous phrase "why spend money on new equipment when you can modernize the old", and by the way, it is his ground troops who remember with "gratitude" for the fact that he deprived them front-line aviation ...
      Sergeyev is now in the right place - where he should be, like Rogozin, Lavrov, and possibly Shoigu (although in Shoigu it seems to me that the president’s potential is quite good, the only thing is that age will already leave its way Putin)
      1. SRC P-15
        SRC P-15 8 January 2016 11: 45
        +2
        Quote: S-17
        I beg of you! Isn't that the Sergeyev who was in the 00s the head of Moscow Region?

        US meant the name Sergey, for example: Sergey Ivanov.
        1. S-17
          S-17 8 January 2016 12: 06
          0
          Ugh, damn it! Yes, for sure, Sergei Ivanov, well, I just wrote about him above. And what kind of Sergey?
      2. HAM
        HAM 8 January 2016 12: 55
        0
        You, I misunderstood, I mean NAMES, not surnames ...
        1. S-17
          S-17 8 January 2016 13: 47
          +1
          I already understood, thanks, I apologize! But didn’t understand which one of the many Sergei? )
          1. HAM
            HAM 8 January 2016 16: 17
            +1
            Fortunately, we have good guys Seryoga, even Lavrov, even Shoigu, even Ivanov, who is still in the shadows ... there are still, maybe not quite Sergey .. ONLY MIKHAILOV IS NOT NECESSARY! yes
            1. S-17
              S-17 8 January 2016 16: 46
              +1
              Well, I already wrote about Ivanov above, and Lavrov, to be honest, I can’t imagine the president, politics and diplomacy are not the same thing, but as a diplomat he is at his best. According to Shoigu, he also wrote above, an excellent manager in politics as a fish, but considering. that they and Putin are almost the same age, they’ll already be a little old after the departure of the GDP ... In general, my IMHO - they are preparing someone young, but rather that they have not yet decided who to promote next as a receiver
    2. gergi
      gergi 8 January 2016 18: 15
      +2
      Are you talking about socialite Ksenia Stulchak so rude?
  4. Andrey Yuryevich
    Andrey Yuryevich 8 January 2016 13: 28
    +1
    Quote: Egoza
    Well, Rabinovich is sure he will. Only then it is not necessary to say “the people chose themselves,” as many say about Ukraine. Although if there is no alternative at all, then where should the people go?

    exactly Elena, 146%, no one canceled ... hi
  5. Evgeny Petrovich
    Evgeny Petrovich 8 January 2016 17: 58
    +1
    The eternal faith of the Russians at random.
  6. Lelek
    Lelek 9 January 2016 19: 14
    0
    Quote: Egoza
    Let's hope that this time will appear.


    Hey.
    IMHO, the LADIES have no chances to last as prime minister, there are too many mistakes and blunders. But I don't see the real figure on this chair. It is counterproductive to look for a candidate behind the "circle" of the GDP, since at this level everything is decided by personal connections and sympathies. I would like, of course, for a person like Primakov to come, but-but-but ....
  • Tersky
    Tersky 8 January 2016 11: 21
    10
    Quote: Younger, I
    God forbid DAME to become a prezik again.

    Do not worry - the rating of the plush now fluctuates within the framework of the statistical error: the error is 3,4%, and the rating of the ex-president is only 2%. Five years ago, the DAM received 70,28% of the votes in the real elections of the head of state, that is, "sank" 35 times
  • vka
    vka 8 January 2016 11: 29
    +5
    I fully support it - it’s kind of a child and not a politician
    1. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 8 January 2016 13: 43
      +3
      No, the politician is the same. Which buttons the USA ordered to press, they diligently pressed.
    2. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 8 January 2016 13: 45
      +1
      By the way, I remember the "crack in tandem" intrigue, don't you remember?
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  • Finches
    Finches 8 January 2016 12: 12
    14
    It’s necessary for someone to stir up the initiative so that the GDP would drive to death otherwise in our fairy-tale country after Stalin Khrushchev always comes, but this is half the trouble, and even Gorbachev can come ... laughing

    And to be serious personally, I am generally more and more inclined to believe that for such a huge, multinational and multi-confessional country like Russia, this makes a state unique on Earth - an absolute monarchy under capitalism is the best form of government or a General Secretary with the Politburo, but with a different political and economic system! But these pranks with "democracy" of the Western model - a permanent state, now a baradak, now some kind of stability to any particular success, the country and the people do not lead! Some bunch is just making money and that's it ...
    1. epsilon571
      epsilon571 8 January 2016 13: 46
      +7
      Zyablitsev (1) RU Today.
      But to be serious personally, in general, I am more and more inclined to believe that for such a huge, multinational and multiconfessional country like Russia, this makes the state unique on Earth - an absolute monarchy under capitalism is the best form of government ...


      What is happening to us?

      This question is easy to answer if you look at the system imposed on us by the liberal Chubais and their advisers from the CIA in the nineties. Genus is capitalism. View - official-oligarchic capitalism of the nineteenth century (the West began to get rid of such a system a hundred years ago). Subspecies - export-raw capitalism. As you can see, the United States imposed on the Russian Federation all the worst that is in the bourgeois system, its most disgusting and ineffective modification, and now, with pleasure and at the highest level, they “call” the Russian Federation a “gas station of the West”. We are all offended by the Russian authorities. Like, she replaced things with words, economics and politics are stagnant. But what can power do if it rules the bourgeois Titanic? If the system itself is intended for the self-liquidation of the Russian Federation, then the government is simply a hostage to the existing system and is forced to execute its delete program.

      Conclusion? The system imposed on us is economically inefficient, it is historically outdated, and therefore it is a system of self-destruction of Russia.
  • avia1991
    avia1991 9 January 2016 00: 50
    0
    Quote: Younger, I
    God forbid DAME to become a prezik again.
    I'd rather spoil the ballot than vote for it.

    The spoiled ballot will not change anything - even if we spoil them all!
    But I think it's too early to worry, I think: the majority will still be for Putin (for today this is a fact), and he still has plenty of time.
    Yes, and "upstairs", I hope, understand that teasing the "Russian Bear" with an overseas iPhone will cost itself more.
  • Yura
    Yura 8 January 2016 10: 34
    15
    Quote: captain
    Will he again become president?

    You won’t vote for him, he won’t, I won’t definitely.
    1. 79807420129
      79807420129 8 January 2016 10: 51
      19
      Quote: Jura
      Quote: captain
      Will he again become president?

      You won’t vote for him, he won’t, I won’t definitely.

      Yes, it is unlikely that there will be many voters who vote for him, the bear just won’t get my vote, like any liberalistic rubbish, and all these Caucasians have long known about Gaddafi, but Sarkozy and Cameron did not want to repay debts, Obama did not want to have a gold dinar instead of petrodollar, which wanted to introduce Gaddafi, and the Bear wanted to cave in before the West once again, for which he almost got a face in the face of GDP from live television hi
      1. Saratoga833
        Saratoga833 8 January 2016 18: 56
        +2
        Quote: 79807420129
        The bear wanted to bend to the west once again, for which he almost got a face in the face of GDP on television live

        Very sorry! What did not receive. Even more unfortunate that he is also with considerable power!
    2. svp67
      svp67 8 January 2016 10: 58
      +3
      Quote: Jura
      You won’t vote for him, he won’t, I won’t definitely.

      How I would like to believe the same thing ... No.
  • yurii p
    yurii p 8 January 2016 10: 50
    +9
    it depends only on US, and it is high time the Yeltsin-Voloshinsky-Gazprom ugly freaks are removed from power, the economic direction of the Dimon government is based on the support of the oligarchy of the 90s.
    1. epsilon571
      epsilon571 8 January 2016 14: 06
      +5
      yurii p RU Today.
      it depends only on US, and it is high time the Yeltsin-Voloshinsky-Gazprom ugly freaks are removed from power, the economic direction of the Dimon government is based on the support of the oligarchy of the 90s.


      Everything is much worse than you expect. Capitalism in Russia has once again failed. Russian capitalism is good for degradation, cuts, squandering resources. Here he is a champion and out of competition. We are on the verge of a new era. Will our country be able to save itself at the turn of the era? History dictates a choice: either Russia, turning from defense to development, will become the organizer of a multipolar world, a world of a union of civilizations, or its fragments, following the fragments of Ukraine and many other countries, will go into building material.
      Our salvation is in renewed socialism. Only renewed socialism can realize the principle of “capitalism for Russia, not Russia for capitalism”. Or the collapse in Ukrainian or the protection of a new, updated, socialism. We have not been given a third. After all, it was precisely the rejection of socialism that deprived us of ideological and civilizational protection.
  • svp67
    svp67 8 January 2016 10: 51
    +8
    Quote: captain
    By the way, if I’m not mistaken, Russia, represented by President Medvedev, supported the bombing of Libya at that moment.

    You are not mistaken. And it was from Libya, not only Europe, but also Russia that received the problems that we now have in Syria and with Turkey.
  • valokordin
    valokordin 8 January 2016 11: 07
    +9
    Quote: captain
    By the way, if I’m not mistaken, Russia, represented by President Medvedev, supported the bombing of Libya at that moment. We must pay tribute to Putin, he opposed. I have been alarmed recently by the frequent appearances of D, A, Medvedev on television and his solo visits to the World. Will he again become president?

    Citizen Rotmister, Russia did not support the bombing in Libya, and Medvedev abstained from the Security Council and did not veto the introduction of a no-fly zone over Libya. Prime Minister V. Putin agreed. However, NATO, and especially the United States and France, began bombing Libya, preventing Qadafi from using aircraft. And Sarkozy was interested in the killing of Gaddafi, because he gave him money for the election. As for the presidential election, Medvedev will never be, Vladimir Vladimirovich will be again, Russia will not vote for that liberal, unless there are frauds like under the drunkard Yeltsin
    1. asiat_61
      asiat_61 8 January 2016 20: 00
      0
      Teddy bear crap. So you have to say.
  • dmi.pris
    dmi.pris 8 January 2016 11: 22
    +2
    Whatever it was, but the iPhone represents the state ... Everything is done correctly - the "talking head" travels around the world, and the HEAD is in Russia, there are enough thugs, the security may not work (the human factor has not been canceled yet)
  • EvgNik
    EvgNik 8 January 2016 11: 23
    10
    Quote: captain
    Will he again become president?

    Today I read an article predicting that Medvedev would be president. This means that public opinion is prepared for this in advance. Wrote a comment that the people will vote against - did not miss. People, be vigilant! (C)
  • S-17
    S-17 8 January 2016 11: 32
    +9
    Maybe I’m watching some other TV, but I didn’t notice the participating DAM in it, it appears no more often than always.
    And his winding around the world, so if you look closely, he goes just where Putin does not need anything for nothing, because of the concentration of different rubbish at those events. DAM now for GDP is more like a doll that you can send to where you yourself do not want to.
    I don’t protect the bear, because I can’t stand him myself, but it’s unnecessary to raise fear with his secondary presidency, because the Kremlin most likely understands that what is clear to the majority of the country's population - DAM, the Russian president in take 2 - is a disaster for Russia ... Yes, and he sits in the prime with his Co. most likely only because there was an agreement with the GDP for keeping the place 4 years, and perhaps after the current period of GDP, it (DAM) will already be removed
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  • Aleksander
    Aleksander 8 January 2016 11: 44
    +2
    Quote: captain
    By the way, if I’m not mistaken, Russia, represented by President Medvedev, supported the bombing of Libya at that moment

    "No-fly zone" (designated in the UN resolution and voted by Russia as abstained) and the real NATO bombing are still different things and Medvedev did not support them. Another thing is that he was actually "carried out" by actually performing something completely different, but he could not foresee this ...
  • epsilon571
    epsilon571 8 January 2016 13: 26
    +2
    I have been alarmed recently by the frequent appearances of D, A, Medvedev on television and his solo visits to the World. Will he again become president?


    Medvedev’s last visit to China was a failure, just look at the Chinese press, in particular the People’s Daily. Putin will not forgive this anymore; too many Dima has broken firewood in our Fatherland. All his recent reforms have weakened the Country for several years ahead, he is either an enemy or ...!
    1. Oorfene Deuce
      Oorfene Deuce 8 January 2016 14: 06
      0
      Quote: epsilon571
      Putin will not forgive this anymore; Dima has broken too much firewood

      Oh, let’s drop this verbiage ... Or were you born yesterday?
  • wandlitz
    wandlitz 8 January 2016 16: 17
    +2
    The UN Security Council adopted a resolution providing for the creation of a no-fly zone over Libya and allowing members of the Security Council ... Five members of the Security Council— Russia, Germany, China, India and Brazil— abstained from voting.
    Russia abstained from voting, presumably for the reason that at that time the presidents included the subject with IPHON.
  • python2a
    python2a 8 January 2016 17: 14
    +1
    There will be no second kinder surprise!
  • gergi
    gergi 8 January 2016 18: 05
    +1
    God forbid us from such misfortune.
  • Saratoga833
    Saratoga833 8 January 2016 18: 37
    0
    Quote: captain
    Will he again become president?

    God forbid!
  • denk20
    denk20 8 January 2016 20: 03
    0
    Russia abstained in the UN Security Council over the military operation in Libya.
  • 2С5
    2С5 9 January 2016 23: 32
    0
    ... in politics, as in nature, everything should be uniform ... apparently everything is exactly why ...
  • Rostov Papa
    Rostov Papa 8 January 2016 10: 27
    20
    Now disintegrate .......... Soon their small families will come to the emigrants, 30 to 40 people each and then the most interesting thing will begin.
  • vovanpain
    vovanpain 8 January 2016 10: 27
    28
    Quote: svp67
    He very much interfered with all the leaders, so they removed him, and no one thought about the bad consequences.

    Not only Gaddafi, but Saddam Hussein and Slobodan Milosevic, although Gaddafi and Hussein opposed Al Qaeda in their regions am and Sloba actively strangled Islamic terrorism at home. As they finished, everyone knows perfectly well.
    1. yuriy55
      yuriy55 8 January 2016 10: 48
      +6
      I’m even afraid to suppose ... Is this something ?!
  • Tersky
    Tersky 8 January 2016 10: 57
    +8
    Quote: svp67
    He very much interfered with all the leaders, so they removed him, and no one thought about the bad consequences.

    Well, the "discrepancy" came out ... the fact that Libya, instead of a state playing an important strategic role in all layouts of the Maghreb, has become a land of war, where everyone is against everyone - these are costs that you can close your eyes to. After all, the main evil - Muammar Gaddafi - was destroyed, "the dawn of a new era has taken up over the country" ( wassat ), and this is the main thing for the "leaders".
  • INVESTOR
    INVESTOR 8 January 2016 11: 59
    +6
    All these snot of European politicians is an absolute lie. They all understood perfectly. They did this for the sake of transnational corporations. They do not care about their people.
    1. olimpiada15
      olimpiada15 8 January 2016 12: 29
      +2
      INKVESTOR set a plus for the comment, but missed, so minus mine, but incorrect. Excuse me, please.
  • Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 8 January 2016 13: 18
    +4
    svp67
    "He warned, warned - but who listened to him."
    Gaddafi, an iconic figure, no words. And he laid down his head for a just cause, his country and his people. Dot. In parallel, the Stalin branch is also a foresight. Journalists signed up and here and there, except for otherworldly authorities, there is no one else to talk to. I don't believe it, nonsense.
    What is Europe? Where is she? Americans are killing a stupid competitor with controlled chaos. "Do you want a big freebie? Take it, we have no interests there." Europe decided to solve minor difficulties, once and for all. I got what I wanted for less than half the price. But there was more than one fly in the ointment. And the strings of the Amers are not only from the green stream, Ukrainians can do a good deed on command, the "Nord Stream" is also under the control of friendly Baltic states. One day Europe will wake up and it is not. There is one big American market.
    And who against the background of this huge would have heard the babble of a bird that has fallen into snares?
  • dmi.pris
    dmi.pris 8 January 2016 13: 26
    +7
    In the photo a crowd of jackals kicks a dead lion .... We tried these idiots during his lifetime ...
  • python2a
    python2a 8 January 2016 17: 12
    0
    Now in Europe they are trying to bite their elbows ...
  • gergi
    gergi 8 January 2016 18: 02
    +2
    Have not you thought? Yes, this is exactly what they were striving for! That was exactly the goal! It's time to take off the pink glasses, ghouls rule in Europe.
    1. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 8 January 2016 18: 37
      +3
      Mistake Do not ghouls, but henpecked US, and not smart.
  • DPN
    DPN 8 January 2016 19: 40
    +1
    Quote: svp67
    He was independent and very much interfered with all the leaders, and therefore he was removed, and no one thought about the bad consequences.


    These words are also suitable for the destruction of the USSR by their people. So WE were not BETTER!
  • zennon
    zennon 8 January 2016 20: 48
    +2
    Quote: svp67
    He warned, warned - but who listened to him.

    Yes, take a look for yourself:
  • Uran
    Uran 9 January 2016 01: 48
    +1
    what kind of rejoicing dead kadafi? what kind of pont to be photographed next to a dead man ?. sooner or later you will find yourself instead of the dead.
  • Aleksander
    Aleksander 8 January 2016 10: 16
    +6
    "Western politicians were less insightful than Gaddafi, regarding the risks of intervention for both the Libyan people and the interests of the West."


    So they are mistaken EVERYWHERE.
  • venaya
    venaya 8 January 2016 10: 18
    +6
    “They want to control the Mediterranean and then attack Europe”

    It was precisely for this that such groupings created, the form of these attacks is already the second question, they will come up, not even themselves, but those who created them.
  • ZKVR
    ZKVR 8 January 2016 10: 19
    +4
    Interesting.! Is this handsome man in the next world?
    1. 0255
      0255 8 January 2016 10: 34
      +2
      Quote: ZKVR
      Interesting.! Is this handsome man in the next world?

      Yes crying The West declared his execution a "victory of democracy" am
      1. Consul-t
        Consul-t 8 January 2016 11: 29
        +9
        I watched the video. Yes ... tin.
        This is a herd, and someone controls this herd.
        Yelling, screaming. And are these people?
        They must be destroyed. Europe has already received.
        But the true instigators of all this are sitting over the sea-hail.
        It is necessary for these champions of Islam to go there for jihat.
        Let the frame taste to the fullest.
        1. 0255
          0255 8 January 2016 12: 18
          +4
          Quote: Consul-t
          I watched the video. Yes ... tin.
          This is a herd, and someone controls this herd.
          Yelling, screaming. And are these people?
          They must be destroyed. Europe has already received.
          But the true instigators of all this are sitting over the sea-hail.
          It is necessary for these champions of Islam to go there for jihat.
          Let the frame taste to the fullest.

          That's just the United States does not take refugees in such quantities as Europe. They are not as dumb as we think.
          1. sharp-lad
            sharp-lad 8 January 2016 21: 58
            0
            But the Old World is completely numb! Or all their elites sold out to the sashiks in full force.
  • Stinger
    Stinger 8 January 2016 10: 20
    +6
    Why listen? They are Charlie.
  • Dart2027
    Dart2027 8 January 2016 10: 20
    +6
    Well, personally, politicians are not in danger, but ordinary residents will have a hard time.
  • AlNikolaich
    AlNikolaich 8 January 2016 10: 20
    22
    Gaddafi's words are not based on divination, but on an objective analysis of information. And to a large extent on common sense. They didn’t listen to his wooden heads ... Now, they have what they have!
    1. Consul-t
      Consul-t 8 January 2016 11: 31
      +5
      Gaddafi was born and raised there. And he knew their essence.
      Therefore, he said what he had before his eyes.
  • meriem1
    meriem1 8 January 2016 10: 22
    +7
    Not one poor fellow Gaddafi got burned trying to introduce a gold standard in his currency and to decouple oil from the dollar. And Europe has not seen beyond its nose for a long time and listens only to what the USA puffs into its ears. And then they groan ... Semyon Semyonitch. How did it happen? In one word, "smart people"
  • figwam
    figwam 8 January 2016 10: 23
    +4
    Do not deal with Western gangsters, everything will end badly.
  • Yak28
    Yak28 8 January 2016 10: 24
    19
    Once upon a time, Gaddafi was an ally of the USSR
    1. yuriy55
      yuriy55 8 January 2016 10: 35
      +5
      You can draw parallels and answer questions: Who was he for Russia if he was considered an enemy of the United States? Who is who in this situation...

      You can watch a report of that time with the "delight of hundreds or even thousands" of Libyans ...
      http://www.1tv.ru/news/world/188862

      Who betrayed him and for what money and promises will become known a little later ...
  • fa2998
    fa2998 8 January 2016 10: 25
    15
    Whatever Gaddafi was accused of - "tyrant, dictator, etc." - under him in Libya there was a STATE. Now it can be erased from the map, there are different territories that are controlled by bandits, and the people are fleeing to Europe! swim away! hi
    1. sharp-lad
      sharp-lad 8 January 2016 22: 00
      +1
      Yes, most did not want to! The house was not bad!
  • LÄRZ
    LÄRZ 8 January 2016 10: 27
    22
    I read about Gaddafi, in principle, only the good. It’s a pity man ... We handed over to Libya that you don’t say. But judging by Syria, the lesson went for the future.
    1. yuriy55
      yuriy55 8 January 2016 10: 41
      21
      Without a doubt. Only in this case, you need to spend less time explaining your actions. To hammer so that no one has any doubts about the future fate of Assad and the choice of the Syrian people. For this one can endure all the "oblique Euro-Western" views ...

      But what did Gaddafi do?
      What did Muammar Gaddafi:
      Having come to power, he expelled int. corporations.
      Closes NATO military bases
      GDP per capita is $ 14. For each family member, the state pays $ 192 in subsidies per year. Unemployment benefits - $ 1. ... Salary of a nurse - $ 000. For each newborn paid $ 730. Newlyweds are given $ 1 to buy an apartment. For the opening of a personal business, one-time financial assistance is $ 000. Large taxes and requisitions are prohibited. Education and medicine are free. Education and internship abroad - at the expense of the state. A chain of stores for large families with symbolic prices for basic foodstuffs. For the sale of products with an expired shelf life - heavy fines and detention by special police units. Part of pharmacies has a free supply of medicines. For counterfeiting drugs - the death penalty. The rent is absent. There is no electricity charge for the population. The sale and consumption of alcohol is prohibited - “dry law”. Loans for the purchase of a car and an apartment are interest-free. Realtor services are prohibited. Buying a car up to 7% paid by the state, to the militia fighters - 000%. Gasoline is cheaper than water. 64 liter of gasoline - $ 000 Only under Muammar the blacks of the south of Libya gained human rights. For forty years of his reign, the population of Libya has tripled !!! Child mortality decreased by 20 times !!! Life expectancy in the country increased from 000 to 50 years. A real man and ruler, did not run away from the country as others did, but fought until his death!


      I almost forgot!!! I wanted to put into circulation "golden dinar" yes
      http://gold.ru/news/zolotoj-dinar-kaddafi.html
      1. LÄRZ
        LÄRZ 8 January 2016 10: 54
        13
        What he did, they all like a sickle in the testicles. But the most important thing is that he pursued an independent policy, and even swung the "golden dinar" at the "sacred" - the dollar.
    2. Tersky
      Tersky 8 January 2016 11: 27
      +7
      Quote: LÄRZ
      I read about Gaddafi, in principle, only the good.

      Well here is how to read and what to read. My opinion is that it is difficult to find in the second half of the 20 century a politician more controversial than him. The figure of Colonel Muammar Gaddafi is as far from the idealized lubok fashioned after his death, just as far from realities is the demonized image created during his life by the West.
      1. LÄRZ
        LÄRZ 8 January 2016 11: 51
        +6
        We are all human, we are all human. Which of us is not sinful, who has not made mistakes? Probably the truth about him is somewhere in between. And read, on the Internet, accidentally ran into a large article.
    3. Stirbjorn
      Stirbjorn 8 January 2016 13: 16
      +1
      Quote: LÄRZ
      I read about Gaddafi, in principle, only the good. It’s a pity man ... We handed over to Libya that you don’t say. But judging by Syria, the lesson went for the future.

      And that the Soviet Union refused to repay debts? The West paid a lot more for lifting sanctions
  • Dilshat
    Dilshat 8 January 2016 10: 27
    11
    In Europe, a liquidation program has been launched. Refugees, juveniles, LGBT people. You cannot just rob the world for centuries and live an old age in peace.
    1. DobryAAH
      DobryAAH 8 January 2016 10: 36
      +7
      In Europe, a liquidation program has been launched. Refugees, juveniles, LGBT people. You cannot just rob the world for centuries and live an old age in peace.

      So what? The main question is, who launched all this? They are not complete imbeciles; they can arrange hara-kiri for themselves. I believe that the Zionist transnationals descend from above.
  • Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 8 January 2016 10: 28
    22
    Creepy photo. The beast, not people. The notorious eastern mentality. The fact that Gaddafi was right is indisputable. He knew better how to keep yesterday’s camels in check. He knew that they respect only power. And charity is perceived as weakness.
    1. ostrom
      ostrom 8 January 2016 10: 43
      +6
      Right now, Europeans are playing this "mercy" game with refugees. For some reason, mistaking them for "Eastern workers" ... Soon they will understand whom they let in without control, but it will be too late.
      1. The black
        The black 8 January 2016 11: 07
        11
        I agree. In general, the pogroms are likely to be mutual, reciprocal. In one place, the Germans pile on migrants for obscene attacks on their wives and daughters - in response, the migrants, no doubt, will choose a place and time to organize a retaliatory pogrom against the Germans. Lynching is not excluded. The media will keep silent about such incidents as much as possible, because there is NO way out of the situation - constructive and effective. Merkel is an idiot and an ovsky six who set up her people. Moreover, she deliberately framed for the sake of her image as a politician loyal to the States, and at the same time breeds a fraudulent trichomudia about the "benefits" that migrants can bring.
    2. Good cat
      Good cat 8 January 2016 10: 56
      +3
      Just u..yes full and vile, jackals one word!
  • Yak28
    Yak28 8 January 2016 10: 34
    +9
    One of the shameful spots in the history of Russia, in addition to the traitors in power in the 90s, is the betrayals of the allies. Assad in this chain was luckier than the rest, Russia got a brain
    1. DobryAAH
      DobryAAH 8 January 2016 10: 41
      +2
      So what? Gaddafi and Saddam are our allies? Even Assad is not. It’s just that our interests coincided.
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      4. DobryAAH
        DobryAAH 8 January 2016 11: 41
        -3
        Something did not understand, do you think differently? Some of them sent their troops to, say, Afghanistan or where else, to help us? To Angola, for example? In Ukraine, is someone from there fighting for Russia's interests? Here they will send a unit, then I believe that someone is our ally.
        1. apro
          apro 8 January 2016 12: 13
          +6
          In Angola and Ethiopia, the Cubans fought for the interests of the USSR. The Germans of the GDR also noted in Africa.
      5. kare
        kare 8 January 2016 18: 13
        0
        Quote: Good AAAH
        GoodAAX (2) RU Today, 10: 41 ↑

        So what? Gaddafi and Saddam are our allies? Even Assad is not. It’s just that our interests coincided.


        The most reliable ally of Russia, judging by the rabbis constantly revolving around the GDP, is Israel. Well, in general, don’t turn your back on an ally, so that he wouldn’t butcher us in the most vulgar way, and everything will be peaks
        Forgive me moderator ..
    2. apro
      apro 8 January 2016 11: 22
      +2
      You can still recall E. Honneker. In the Yaruzelsky chain of betrayals of Moscow can continue.
      1. DobryAAH
        DobryAAH 8 January 2016 13: 33
        0
        And we are talking about those in the photo. I have already said about the Cubans. About the German allies, plus or minus. Have Saddam and Gaddafi been recorded in our allies? From oak after the holidays collapsed? We still had to fight for them? Yeah, right now. Put our guys, hell knows for whom.
        1. DobryAAH
          DobryAAH 8 January 2016 13: 51
          0
          No, well, Russia, even for Israel, will not harness against the Americans. laughing
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      3. SklochPensioner
        SklochPensioner 8 January 2016 14: 05
        +3
        Self-criticism is a good thing, self-flagellation is not always smile
        Politics is the art of the possible, damn it! It is a pity that this was not taken into account, for example, in 1914, "harnessing" for ... what, by and large?

        Quote: apro
        You can still recall E. Honneker In Jaruzelski


        Let us recall these indisputably worthy people, as well as what times were then and who was in power.
        No need to sprinkle ash on your head - it's stupid
    3. Weyland
      Weyland 8 January 2016 19: 07
      +1
      formally none of them was our ally. ChSKH, Yugoslavia, even in the Warsaw Pact was not included in the years of its existence ...
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    5. Disant
      Disant 9 January 2016 02: 53
      0
      uak28, where did you get this propaganda card?
      What side was Assad here?
      Saddam and Gaddafi were not our allies, but with Syria we have an agreement on friendship and cooperation. so there is our boot
      for Yugoslavia - I almost agree, but you yourself write about traitors in power
      Lavrov - in 1999 he was not a minister (regarding the remaining Yugoslavia and the post of minister)
      the answer to the question from the agitation is asymmetric
  • Watson J.
    Watson J. 8 January 2016 10: 34
    +7
    I think we need to make a poster from this selfie with the caption: "Shoot immediately at the meeting!"

    I think most will agree that talking to such people is useless.
    1. Disant
      Disant 9 January 2016 03: 04
      0
      Yes, it’s some kind of self-interested flyer, light pants, a clean shirt. rolled up from somewhere ...
  • iliitchitch
    iliitchitch 8 January 2016 10: 35
    +8
    Their war was not taught anything. Hitler would have won - they would have adapted, savages came in large numbers - they are tolerant. A sense of disgust is caused by all these donkeys stupid blair-olands. Well Europe:
  • awersa
    awersa 8 January 2016 10: 37
    13
    Gaddafi has always been ours and yours, but this did not save him, as soon as he began actively promoting his currency to the whole east selling oil, the gold real seems to have been removed right away - the dollar does not tolerate competitors, everything else is secondary for the US (and EU security including)
    1. yuriy55
      yuriy55 8 January 2016 10: 55
      +4
      Quote: awersa
      ... the golden real seems ...

      The quick start of the war occurred after the announcement of Gaddafi's intention to proceed to the calculations in "gold dinars". It is gold, from natural gold. Gaddafi intended to mint them himself from his gold. Why is this necessary? To stop feeding "paper tricksters."

      The recent global economic crisis has forced several states to talk about the introduction of interstate settlements in gold. China announced the minting of the RMB, and talked about the gold standard in the Middle East. The main initiator of the rejection of settlements in dollars and euros was the Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi, who called on the Arab and African world to switch to settlements in a single currency - the gold dinar.

      More details: http://gold.ru/news/zolotoj-dinar-kaddafi.html
  • gg.na
    gg.na 8 January 2016 10: 39
    +8
    Gaddafi warned Europe, but did not listen
    They didn’t just not listen to him, they deliberately and deliberately got rid of him! Because he began ahead of time to disclose (UNDERSTANDING MYSELF) the plans of amers and they didn’t need it then! As a result, today we know what is happening now in the countries of Bl.Evostok! what
  • s.melioxin
    s.melioxin 8 January 2016 10: 44
    20
    "Gaddafi's prophetic warning."
    He was not a prophet, he was clever, unlike the "hegemon" and his henchmen. And Medvedev really got into it then. Someone turns the plane over the Atlantic and flies home, but for someone it is not obvious. Two leaders, but such different approaches. Sorry for Gaddafi, Man.
    1. EvgNik
      EvgNik 8 January 2016 11: 36
      +8
      Quote: s.melioxin
      He was not a prophet, he was smart, unlike the "hegemon" and his minions

      And, I add, unlike many others, they loved their countries, they were real patriots.
  • gabonskijfront
    gabonskijfront 8 January 2016 10: 46
    -13 qualifying.
    Islamists, these are the same Bolsheviks, the same slogans about social justice and world imperialism and the same methods of struggle. Alas, the order for social services. justice always exists and the current Islamic fundamentalism in many respects satisfies it, therefore it is useless to fight it with one force, they will probably have to give them the opportunity to create a state, let them try, let Islamism happen the same way as with communism. As one of the Chinese strategists says, let go "
    1. yuriy55
      yuriy55 8 January 2016 11: 06
      +7
      Quote: gabonskijfront
      Islamists, these are the same Bolsheviks

      You compared different fingers of an adult man: the middle one on the hand and the "twenty-first". I can be mistaken in the slogans of Daesh, only the Bolsheviks had:

      We are ours, we will build a new world, - Who was nothing, that will become everything., - where the keyword is - BUILD !!!
      1. gabonskijfront
        gabonskijfront 8 January 2016 11: 15
        -8
        And what do you know about Islam in principle? If Jesus is a Utopian communist, then Mohamed is the founder of real socialism, Islam is a guide to building a just society, how many wives to have, how to share the profits fairly, what is the lending rate and why is it a diabolical trade and TD. One should be interested, not just revenge on the language.
        1. sharp-lad
          sharp-lad 8 January 2016 22: 07
          +1
          And how many Muslims personally read the Qur'an? Especially in the Middle East.
    2. Saratoga833
      Saratoga833 8 January 2016 19: 39
      +2
      Quote: gabonskijfront
      Islamists, these are the same Bolsheviks

      This is either utter stupidity on your part, or complete ignorance of the ideological foundations of the social system.
    3. Tersky
      Tersky 8 January 2016 21: 45
      +3
      Quote: gabonskijfront
      they’ll probably have to give them the opportunity to create a state, let them try, let communism happen to Islamism too.

      Well, you, my friend, and it incurred ... Read at your leisure the famous creation of K. Marx, maybe something will change in determining the difference between religion and the social system.
    4. Disant
      Disant 9 January 2016 00: 29
      0
      you confuse Islamism and banditry
  • densar
    densar 8 January 2016 10: 50
    +2
    Quote: captain
    By the way, if I’m not mistaken, Russia, represented by President Medvedev, supported the bombing of Libya at that moment. We must pay tribute to Putin, he opposed. I have been alarmed recently by the frequent appearances of D, A, Medvedev on television and his solo visits to the World. Will he again become president?

    More likely no than yes. Now a very big promotion is not Medvedev, but Shoigu. They carry him to all summits, to all foreign trips, image makers work with him on the correctness of the presentation of a conversation to the public, etc. So, Shoigu has more chances.
    1. EvgNik
      EvgNik 8 January 2016 11: 41
      +3
      Quote: densar
      So, Shoigu has more chances.

      Yes, if Shoigu and Medvedev are on the list, then promotion will not be needed. Medvedev will not gain more than five to nine percent.
  • DobryAAH
    DobryAAH 8 January 2016 10: 51
    +6
    That Cubans, it seems, were allies of the USSR. It was necessary, since the troops were sent to Africa. This is an ally.
    1. yuriy55
      yuriy55 8 January 2016 11: 01
      15
      For more than twenty years I have been following the changes in Russian relations with Cuba ... A pattern emerged, as with the rest of the "poor friends": we have ceased to be friends with those who have nothing. This "animal" nature of capital came to us with the dollarization of the economy ...
      hi
      1. Yak28
        Yak28 8 January 2016 11: 24
        +2
        Quote: yuriy55
        we have ceased to be friends with those who have nothing. This "animal" nature of capital came to us with the dollarization of the economy ...

        Therefore, Russia is alone. But before, the allies were many states that adhered to anti-American policies at any point in their history and thereby became allies of the USSR, without entering into any blocs. These countries include, for example: Cuba, China. DPRK, Vietnam, Mongolia, Egypt, Syria, Libya, Algeria, Ethiopia, India, Nicaragua, Kenya, Senegal, Cambodia, Bangladesh and several other states.
        1. Saratoga833
          Saratoga833 8 January 2016 19: 57
          0
          These listed countries were temporary allies for us as long as they were fed. Stopped feeding - immediately turned to us backwards!
      2. Saratoga833
        Saratoga833 8 January 2016 19: 54
        -1
        I would not speak so unambiguously about Cuba. They were "best" friends as long as we fed them, protected them and bought their trashy cane sugar from them. Instead of developing their own economy, they sat with open mouths and waited for our ships with food and industrial goods. And money for their sugar.
        As soon as our ships stopped bringing them freebies, they immediately declared us traitors.
        In general, nothing new. As they were a banana republic - they remained so. Whoever shows the big pie is one and a friend!
    2. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 8 January 2016 21: 23
      +1
      Cubans saw their interest in Africa. They were never satellites of the USSR. If in some ways they disagreed with the leadership of the USSR, they honestly declared it.
  • Yak28
    Yak28 8 January 2016 10: 52
    +7
    Quote: yuriy55
    Who betrayed him and for what money and promises will become known a little later ...

    The stupid and fooled people betrayed him, some by stupidity, others stupidly for money, naturally under the influence of agents and special services of other states. They also betrayed Saddam and the USSR and Ukraine, too, a similar case.
    1. yuriy55
      yuriy55 8 January 2016 11: 22
      0
      If all the answers were so simple ...
      Thoughts about debts and debtors have already appeared. Only in my assumption of the names of the traitors did I mean those persons with whose command and whose indifference this was done. But you will not argue that any military military (using weapons) action in the world takes place unnoticed and without any comments and consequences? My interest in the answer about fooled people is not satisfied. And the similarity of cases (with less casualties) occurred much closer in 1991.
      Maybe a short memory interferes with perception? Recall:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0L0TSN-n84E
      and that acquired, also remind:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qW2b_kSWDz8
  • The black
    The black 8 January 2016 10: 53
    12
    Unfortunately, Gaddafi forgot the basic law of life - "If you want peace - get ready for war!" And second, he became friends with Europe, helped the Frenchman Sarkozy (55 million) with the election campaign. And as Lukashenko said, “There is no friendship in politics!” And, as someone said, in order not to repay the debt, the easiest way is to remove the one you owe! Which was done.
  • koksalek
    koksalek 8 January 2016 11: 05
    -1
    Quote: captain
    By the way, if I’m not mistaken, Russia, represented by President Medvedev, supported the bombing of Libya at that moment. We must pay tribute to Putin, he opposed. I have been alarmed recently by the frequent appearances of D, A, Medvedev on television and his solo visits to the World. Will he again become president?

    And the iPhone will not choke? This tolerasty will be for him, along with the 5th column, but apart from Putin there is no other leader, only six remained
    I apologize, there are worthy for which Russia is not a means of profit
  • Viktor fm
    Viktor fm 8 January 2016 11: 10
    +2
    The thing is that the countries to which the West is cool, at a difficult time for Russia, when they consider it weak, begin either to be friends with this West, ignoring Russia, like Libya, or do not reckon with the opinion of Russia, like Serbia. The result is obvious. At one time, we were telling the Serbs what to do before the bombing. They sent us culturally (left our advice unattended) So crocodile tears should not be shed in these countries.
  • shinobi
    shinobi 8 January 2016 11: 10
    +3
    I'm wondering, in Germany, "refugees" are already openly attacking the locals. From the authorities, bear with them, they are refugees. The Germans are disciplined and restrained people, but extremely emotional when it comes to personal matters. When they remember that they are "Aryans" and start to wet?
  • densar
    densar 8 January 2016 11: 11
    +1
    Quote: koksalek
    Quote: captain
    By the way, if I’m not mistaken, Russia, represented by President Medvedev, supported the bombing of Libya at that moment. We must pay tribute to Putin, he opposed. I have been alarmed recently by the frequent appearances of D, A, Medvedev on television and his solo visits to the World. Will he again become president?

    And the iPhone will not choke? This tolerasty will be for him, along with the 5th column, but apart from Putin there is no other leader, only six remained
    I apologize, there are worthy for which Russia is not a means of profit

    There are people and not sixes, the time will come we will all see. There are not only bears.

    Quote: shinobi
    I'm wondering, in Germany, "refugees" are already openly attacking the locals. From the authorities, bear with them, they are refugees. The Germans are disciplined and restrained people, but extremely emotional when it comes to personal matters. When they remember that they are "Aryans" and start to wet?


    "The population of Cologne. Cologne is currently home to almost one million people. Among the largest cities in Germany (Berlin, Hamburg, Munich), it occupies an honorable fourth place." So three more cities and that's it, we are waiting ... and this is far from funny, but very sad.
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  • avva2012
    avva2012 8 January 2016 11: 16
    +5
    Quote: ostrom
    Right now, Europeans are playing this "mercy" game with refugees. For some reason, mistaking them for "Eastern workers" ... Soon they will understand whom they let in without control, but it will be too late.

    Europeans have not yet paid for 20 million civilian deaths in the USSR. Nothing in the world goes unanswered. It began with Germany, I think, not just a coincidence.
  • kepmor
    kepmor 8 January 2016 11: 33
    +3
    Quote: apro
    You can still recall E. Honneker. In the Yaruzelsky chain of betrayals of Moscow can continue.

    Go on, do not go on, but the most important "betrayal of Moscow" is a betrayal in relation to its own people, especially to RUSSIAN!
  • Lyton
    Lyton 8 January 2016 11: 43
    +3
    What a joke of a corpse on Fota background, monkey niggers.
    1. avva2012
      avva2012 8 January 2016 12: 37
      +2
      Well, that’s how he got into history. Interestingly, what about the future fate of the one in the foreground? Caught up or not in this world?
  • densar
    densar 8 January 2016 11: 52
    0
    Quote: EvgNik
    Quote: densar
    So, Shoigu has more chances.

    Yes, if Shoigu and Medvedev are on the list, then promotion will not be needed. Medvedev will not gain more than five to nine percent.

    We’ll see ... I don’t want to be a predictor, Putin probably has a move, and I don’t know what he’s thinking there.
  • avva2012
    avva2012 8 January 2016 11: 54
    +3
    Quote: Yak28
    Quote: yuriy55
    we have ceased to be friends with those who have nothing. This "animal" nature of capital came to us with the dollarization of the economy ...

    Therefore, Russia is alone. But before, the allies were many states that adhered to anti-American policies at any point in their history and thereby became allies of the USSR, without entering into any blocs. These countries include, for example: Cuba, China. DPRK, Vietnam, Mongolia, Egypt, Syria, Libya, Algeria, Ethiopia, India, Nicaragua, Kenya, Senegal, Cambodia, Bangladesh and several other states.

    I, the USSR, would not hold for a disinterested (to put it mildly) state. In almost all of the countries you have listed, something is interesting. In the DPRK, rare earth metals, for example. Vietnam is oil. It was a joke about the supply of bananas for a batch of tanks, and not reality.
    1. yuriy55
      yuriy55 8 January 2016 12: 55
      +4
      And I would not make the world gendarme from the USSR. I remember, as long as my memory doesn’t refuse, in my hometown during the war years in Vietnam hundreds of young Vietnamese girls and boys were trained in completely civilian specialties on the general basis of free education. Naturally, absolute disinterestedness was not observed, however, as well as unlimited thirst for profit. Socialist principles are somewhat different ...

      Now about Gaddafi. He became our "friend" according to the principle: "The enemy of my enemy is my friend."
      On June 11, 1972, Gaddafi called on Muslims to fight the United States and Great Britain, and also announced his support for black revolutionaries in the USA, revolutionaries in Ireland and Arabs who want to join the struggle for the liberation of Palestine.

      https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Каддафи,_Муаммар

      I believe that Russia's passivity in destroying Gaddafi was not caused by a change of priorities, especially since the Russian Foreign Ministry expressed protests against the coalition's actions. And the most usually unpreparedness for other, forceful actions. And, believe me, not only our leaders knew this. The more insolent and unprincipled were the actions of this “NATO team”, and the statements and comments of the events were deceitful.
      With Syria came "bummer". It has already happened here, like in the movies. Everyone watched the videoconferencing "commercials" and no one wanted to die. We must pay tribute to the firmness of the Russian Federation in foreign policy ...
      soldier
      1. avva2012
        avva2012 8 January 2016 13: 05
        +2
        as in my hometown during the war years in Vietnam, hundreds of young Vietnamese girls were trained in completely civilian specialties on the general basis of free education
        And how are the girls? Communicated though?
        USSR, was not a gendarme ever. All the same, sometimes it really helped disinterestedly, that is, for the idea. But if you look at the list of our friends and think about the main resources of these countries, you cease to consider our country a charitable organization, as the liberals once imagined us.
        1. sleeping sayan
          sleeping sayan 8 January 2016 14: 56
          -7
          And, Hungary-1956g. And so, the Soviet Union was not, never when the gendarme.
          1. avva2012
            avva2012 8 January 2016 15: 03
            +3
            And, Hungary-1956g. And so, the Soviet Union was not, never when the gendarme.
            "The losses of the 3rd Ukrainian Front amounted to 32 people, of which 899 are irretrievable." This is certainly not Poland, but still a lot. Do you think that the fascists, of whom there were quite a few in Hungary, had to commit a coup d'etat (as in Ukraine) and kill Soviet citizens further? We should have simply forgotten our killed and wounded, i.e., often disabled people? Are you sure you have not confused anything? Ie, homeland, site.
            1. sleeping sayan
              sleeping sayan 8 January 2016 15: 18
              -2
              And you didn’t mix anything yourself: 3 Ukrainian and 1956?
              1. avva2012
                avva2012 8 January 2016 15: 33
                +2
                That is, do you think that so many men were put in 1945 for just like that? Charity? And Hungary didn’t send troops to the USSR and didn’t support Hitler? You have to pay for everything, it just so happens. Some countries, in case of victory with the population of the defeated country, did not stand on ceremony at all.
          2. Weyland
            Weyland 8 January 2016 19: 15
            +1
            It’s normal to stop the attempt fascist coup in a country that was the most faithful Hitler’s ally (the first of his allies entered the war with the USSR and the last came out; losses during the storming of Budapest are comparable to losses during the storming of Berlin), which most atrocious in Russia (that's why Hungarians were not taken prisoner - unlike, for example, from the same Germans)
  • Neophyte
    Neophyte 8 January 2016 11: 58
    +1
    And yet, he called them idiots who do not see the approaching chaos in Europe! And now, everything is allowed in the EU: to force, to kill according to Sharia law?
  • S-17
    S-17 8 January 2016 12: 41
    +6
    Enough screaming about "Russia's betrayal of Gaddafi"!
    Gaddafi himself framed himself with his own cunning, because in this habit was no better than the same Yanyka (just the second was more fortunate that he managed to take away the slippers), as well as ours and yours, I wanted to sit on several chairs. At one time, Russia was offering him air defense equipment, but he was a proud bird, he believed that his friends would protect the West and, if something happened, it’s such an irony of fate - the defenders (who still had a bunch of dough sticking out to him) and killed ...
    And the fact that there are still some eksperdy trying to twist and ascribe to Russia what it did not do (I mean the clever people above, who claim that the Russian Federation "supported" the bombing of Libya) is either deliberate provocative hypocrisy, or a banal lack of a brain, i.e. to. if you have it, you can google it and find on the internet that there was nothing like this - Russia did not veto the resolution on the no-fly zone, and did not "support the bombing" (!), the difference is cardinal! ..
    hi
  • soroKING
    soroKING 8 January 2016 13: 21
    +1
    Quote: Egoza
    Quote: Younger, I
    God forbid DAME to become a prezik again.

    Well, Rabinovich is sure he will. Only then it is not necessary to say “the people chose themselves,” as many say about Ukraine. Although if there is no alternative at all, then where should the people go? unless Rabinovich be elected immediately. lol
    However, I want to note that in the most difficult times in Russia always appeared suddenly PERSONALITIES who could defend its interests. Let's hope that this time will appear.

    in secret ... there will be Ivanov hi
  • soroKING
    soroKING 8 January 2016 13: 30
    +2
    Quote: dmi.pris
    In the photo a crowd of jackals kicks a dead lion .... We tried these idiots during his lifetime ...

    vile geeks, but in any country there are such negative
    1. padded jacket
      padded jacket 8 January 2016 14: 08
      +2
      Personally, I am generally surprised at the habit of European politicians at first to lie and do mean things and then "whine" and "moan" what bad migrants are.
      It was not with their direct or passive help that the brutal bombing of Serbia by the Israeli regime’s endless killings of the Palestinians and the occupation of their homeland by the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan were carried out, were they silent or directly helped to destroy Libya and the war in Syria and Yemen?
      The result is millions of destitute people who have lost both home and work who have seen the death of close and not very close people fooled by various religious fanatics. And from here the question is - where should these people run if they have death and devastation at home?
      To a cold unpredictable Russia? Where are the same refugee benefits a penny?
      Or in a well-fed and calm and warm Europe where you can live freely on benefits with the whole family?
      So I think Europe itself, following the lead of the United States and Israel, helped unleash all these wars and allowed the current situation with migrants and it’s not worth pitying Europe.
      1. avva2012
        avva2012 8 January 2016 18: 35
        0
        That is, now, can they fuck? The unfortunate suffered. Because Israel has pursued such a policy, are they now allowed everything?
        1. padded jacket
          padded jacket 8 January 2016 18: 47
          0
          Quote: avva2012
          That is, now, can they fuck? The unfortunate suffered. Because Israel has pursued such a policy, are they now allowed everything?

          So maybe these "poor" emigrants were "trained" by some Israelis to behave this way? fellow
          Here is apparently one of those with whom they took an example.
          Police seek women raped by Ashkelon mayor
          Law enforcement officers will soon begin interrogating officials of the Ashkelon municipality, as well as employees of the Atarim company, which was previously headed by Itamar Shimoni.
          Now the police suspect Shimoni of raping and committing depraved acts against 4 women. However, according to investigators, in fact, we are talking about a much larger number of victims of sexual crimes committed by the mayor.
          http://cursorinfo.co.il/news/kriminal/2016/01/07/maariv--policiya-ishet-zhenshin

          --iznasilovannih-merom-ashkelona

          Do not shout too much - this is just an assumption lol
  • SklochPensioner
    SklochPensioner 8 January 2016 14: 36
    +1
    Quote: Good cat
    Just u..yes full and vile, jackals one word!


    If you are talking about a photo for an article, then I absolutely agree.
    Curiously, your terribly obscene abbreviated expletive "u..dy". I went through a bunch of options, broke my head completely. Is it really ... "urd"? !! smile Shocked by your desperate courage! And, as an intellectual to an intellectual: I will not surrender you to the administration! laughing

    If someone smiled, I'm glad.
    1. SOF
      SOF 10 January 2016 03: 06
      +1
      not just smiled, but even neighing
      ... thanks for the shake-up during the night watch :)
  • Dimon19661
    Dimon19661 8 January 2016 15: 05
    0
    Burning Belgrade after a NATO air strike. Federal Republic of Yugoslavia.

    1999 See, history, photo


    Source: http://fishki.net/1802376-ochen-interesnye-istoricheskie-foto-kotorye-objazateln
    o-nuzhno-uvidet.html? from = more © Fishki.net
  • kill the fascist
    kill the fascist 8 January 2016 16: 30
    +2
    in the photo to the article - monkeys take a picture against the background of a dead lion ...
    Shevchuk has good lines "and, as usual, the jackals wander in the wake of the dead lions taking their bones apart"
  • alone
    alone 8 January 2016 18: 16
    +2
    There was nothing to finance those politicians who then began to bomb him!
  • Flat5160
    Flat5160 8 January 2016 21: 01
    +1
    Narrow people! They killed Gaddafi and rejoiced like children, breaking the piggy bank to calculate the accumulated. Now you can count. Libya - losses, Europe - losses, oil concerns - losses, etc. The rise of ISIS, terror, the collapse of Libya as a state. Merger of Turkey with ISIS. Refugees, etc. The saying "Ate drank had fun, calculated - wept, in action.
  • atamankko
    atamankko 9 January 2016 00: 58
    0
    The EU is full of crap because of its politicians,
    imagining themselves to be geniuses, and Europe should not be spared, it is insanely.
  • fa2998
    fa2998 9 January 2016 08: 56
    0
    Quote: Younger, I
    God forbid DAME to become a prezik again.
    I'd rather spoil the ballot than vote for it.

    And we are deciding something in this country? They have a "tandem" - they will fool the minds of the people again, they will give something for the elections, and they will calculate "correctly"! negative hi
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 9 January 2016 09: 01
      0
      The tandem with DAMA will not ride anymore. Most likely it will be a different figure. Maybe even Shoigu. hi
  • lilian
    lilian 9 January 2016 18: 49
    0
    I would have taken the example of Kim Jong-un, would have been alive now.
  • Evil 55
    Evil 55 10 January 2016 13: 39
    0
    Country Ma ... trasiya ... specifically destroys the wise rule of smart people, instilling instability and illiteracy around the world ..
  • Gormenghast
    Gormenghast 10 January 2016 14: 35
    0
    About Gaddafi's prophecies, information has long been roaming the world; it is surprising that they are still trying to give it as some kind of revelation. Like, they didn’t know about it either, and suddenly they realized.

    PS The picture shows the face of Western democracy in all ways. Here and the brutally murdered legitimate president. And the gay Arab is the best friend of European democracy. And a bunch of other Arabs, already sitting on their suitcases and waiting for transport to Europe. And mockery of the value of human life.
  • tomcat117
    tomcat117 10 January 2016 18: 11
    0
    I saw the same picture, only now "devils" with Merkel.
    Any hertovarisch can easily carry out a parallel, but for the "long-suffering" Germany.