Media: US can deploy response forces on the Korean peninsula

The United States and the Republic of Korea are discussing the deployment of a strategic response force on the peninsula, reports Look with reference to Reuters.

About this agency told a source in the Korean military. The source, however, refused to disclose any details of the planned deployment of forces.

Earlier, the news agency Renhap reported on a 20-minute telephone conversation between Barack Obama and South Korean leader Park Geun-hye.

The Vzglyad reminds that the DPRK on Wednesday announced the first testing of the hydrogen bomb, which it was obliged to never use first.

"The army and people of the DPRK will firmly increase the just forces of nuclear deterrence, both in quality and quantity, in order to reliably guarantee the future of the revolutionary course of Juche (ideology in the DPRK) for all ages," the North Korean authorities said in a statement.

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[a52333]

I don’t even know how to react! Met in the gateway racketeer and scumbag .....

[seti]

If they deploy their troops there it will only bring tension. Yes, and it is clear Russia and China will not be silent. So I hope this does not happen.
It’s clear that there is little good in Korea’s actions, but it’s not worth aggravating. Although perhaps the Americans are doing it.

[Ami du peuple]

Quote: seti

It’s clear that there is little good in Korea’s actions, but it’s not worth aggravating.

What's wrong? Did the North Koreans show teeth? It is clearly said: "The DPRK on Wednesday announced the first test of a hydrogen bomb, which pledged to never apply first"To live with wolves is to howl like a wolf.
The states are able to find any excuse to "de-democratize" another sovereign state. Or maybe for no reason at all.

[figwam]

According to statistics, only FSA used nuclear weapons against civilians, which they do not regret about, and accordingly they are the most dangerous state on earth.

[MIKHALYCH1]

On the one hand, the United States will be distracted from BV and Ukraine, and on the other, there can deploy a frail mess (Russia is nearby) .. But the main thing is that they are afraid to speak with the DPRK by force! Iran is also striving for this ...

[Vadim237]

We wish Iran and the DPRK success in creating thermonuclear weapons and long-range ICBMs.

[dmi.pris1]

But they won’t do this for two reasons .. Firstly, this is Pyongyang’s political statement which there were dozens of times to wake up and calm down ... Secondly, the defenders have never used military force against a nuclear country, even if it’s a weapon incomparably with what is available at fenders.

[seti]

And who will guarantee that it really will not be used ..? Personally, I doubt that they have it, but if it is, this is bad news for all of us. Even North Korea’s nuclear weapons are unacceptable to us. We grab the hotbeds of instability in Europe, Ukraine, Syria, and now here is the Korean Peninsula. We need time and it is being taken from us. Our task is to have time to complete the modernization of Russia and the rearmament of the army. Stabilize the economy and make a new leap forward despite world energy prices.
And they slip us another mine. I don’t mind if they start shooting in North America or Western Europe - they deserve it a long time ago. But I do not want to hear the shooting at my window or even in our Far East.
Russia needs peace, and the longer the better for us. The center of stability in Chaos should be Russia, not the United States or Western Europe. Enough for them to rake someone else's, let them feel the fire of war and poverty in their own skin.

[Nosgoth]

And why suddenly, someone has to vouch for you something? Are you taking on a lot? Another Mr. Exceptional?

Each state has the right to protect its interests and its sovereignty by any means. The fact that some states acquired nuclear (and other) weapons earlier than others does not suddenly make them exceptional over all the others and does not give them the right to dictate their conditions.

[Major Yurik]

The Yankees are the main presence in the region of Chinese influence, and North Korea is an occasion, moreover rotten. Eun has a problem with the carriers of nuclear weapons, and there will be no problems for sending Yu. Korea and the Yankoins to the country of eternal hunting, the bomb is exactly what will be assigned to their base. Eun has a hole in his head, like a drum. However, for the mention of South Korea, Uncle Sam, too, will not drink glasses, but to China and Russia to salt alongside is the highest pleasure for the Yankees.

[Altona]

Quote: seti

If they deploy their troops there it will only bring tension. Yes, and it is clear Russia and China will not be silent. So I hope this does not happen.

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It’s about how to send a police outfit of two people armed with 2 Makarovs to an apartment captured by heavily armed bandits with shotguns and machine guns. To contain it is not serious, as a reason for provocation most likely.

[tol100v]

Quote: seti

Although perhaps the Americans are doing it.

Americans are trying their best to impose "hot spots" on Russia and, with great consistency, are throwing new bundles of firewood into them (interethnic, religious, economic, and more often symbiotic)!

[Vadim237]

In a military conflict, South Korea will be swept away, and with it all the reaction forces - which they won’t even have time to react, will only feel how the Japanese, under the atomic bombing, are what it is.

[vlad66]

Quote: a52333

I don’t even know how to react! Met in the gateway racketeer and scumbag ..

But they didn’t meet with a knife and a gun, it could blaze so that it wouldn’t seem to anyone, especially since we have a common border with the DPRK. The mattresses themselves are a threat to the whole world, and the military hamster EH is not too predictable, especially with the thermonuclear .

[kotvov]

, and the military hamster EYN is painfully unpredictable, especially with a thermonuclear. ,,
but, partners, before that, predictable, that you don’t know where to put the stigma. Just the North Koreans know that they will have a thermal charge, these same bullshit will not stick to them.

[Finches]

The Englishwoman is crap! There are refugees, somewhere the execution of Shiites, secret support of the Islamic State, approval of the massacre of the Kurds, the deployment of troops here ... As advanced youth would write - Zas.ransy 80 lvl!

[NIKNN]

Quote: a52333

I don’t even know how to react! Met in the gateway racketeer and scumbag .....

I probably agree.
It’s good that Amer’s expenses will be added, bad, tension will intensify, we will also have to take this into account, neutral, North Korea doesn’t have thermonuclear weapons ...

[family tree]

Taking into account the fact that in connection with the "Russian threat" the NATO contingent in Zap. Europe, it is necessary in the Far East, like that. And here, by the way, Kim No. 3 declares about the tests, straight, as ordered, or not as, but by order?
It’s interesting how many North Koreans buried TNT echelons to provide a 5-point earthquake?

[AVA77]

I think nuclear is enough. There is nothing for the Yankees to do there.

[yuriy55]

About this agency told a source in the Korean military. The source, however, refused to disclose any details of the planned deployment of forces.

Why disclose the details? Consequences - Obama is the last president of the USA (according to Wang) ...

[kil 31]

The US and the Republic of Korea are discussing the deployment of a strategic response force on the peninsula,

How to understand the strategic? Something with nuclear weapons? If this is so, then we need them there, it can easily blaze at our borders. Marshal Eun never compromises and the South Korean president is also a schlender.

[venaya]

DPRK on Wednesday announced the first test of a hydrogen bomb, which it pledged to never use the first

The very fact of any independence of individual states causes an attack of hatred among the rulers of America, although it seems everyone has already got used to it.

[aszzz888]

One thing is clear that the mericatos will not miss such a chance to strangle the northerners.

[svp67]

Quote: aszzz888

One thing is clear that the mericatos will not miss such a chance to strangle the northerners

At that moment when they had hydrogen and have nuclear weapons. I don’t think. Americans can suffer very big losses. It’s easier to press economically through the UN Security Council.

[Same lech]

One thing is clear that the mericatos will not miss such a chance to strangle the northerners

Well, this is not serious ... how can you generally imagine this militarily.
Any invasion of US troops in NORTH KOREA is a guaranteed use of nuclear weapons by the great JUCH.
Bombing YUGOSLAVIA will be the same answer.
The sanctions remain the old and time-tested weapons of WASHINGTON ... but the Koreans have been living under sanctions for decades and do not intend to give up.
So the United States can turn its exceptionality into a tube and put it in the know ... wise JUCHE wanted to sneeze at them from his bell tower.

[APASUS]

Quote: aszzz888

One thing is clear that the mericatos will not miss such a chance to strangle the northerners.

The United States is not trying to strangle the northerners with the hands of the United States, but the Americans will not miss their chance to crush another country, as happened with Japan at the time. They are now independent only on paper, and practically the Americans are doing everything they want in the country

[Strezhevchanin]

They framed China with this trick, because the United States will be happy to help its satellites, Korea and Japan.

[kotvov]

With this trick they framed China ,,,
Well, yes, the Americans would love to pluck both China and North Korea, but now you need to think about where else to shit.

[ALABAY45]

Then the crazy followers of Juche will explode this bomb, only not underground! Few problems in the world, this just didn’t get enough ...

[Same lech]

Then the crazy followers of Juche will explode this bomb, only not underground!

Well, they’re not so crazy to do it .. the great BIGGER smart guy and knows his borders ... I more believe that the Americans will use nuclear weapons ... after all, they did it against the civilian population of JAPAN ... and they have no remorse still for this war crime.

[Leprekon]

Dumber and dumber! And why, after that, the "North Koreans" throughout Southeast Asia for the United States and its allies run with chlorophos? Themselves, all the cockroaches will gather near one can, where in the case of a "complete happy end" they will be covered, since, in the case of a big nix, the Koreans will have nothing to lose!

[Tusv]

Oops Does the US have a dime? Something Tuzik Obama how torn our economy does not get involved

[antiexpert]

late to drink Borjomi when the kidneys flew off)))

a little historical background: Japan was very cruel to the Koreans, there isn’t enough space to list everything, and during the Japanese occupation there were such Koreans, like in the USSR - policemen, so now in South Korea these policemen rule the country, it looks like mockery of an entire nation.

[dsi]

“The DPRK army and people will firmly build up fair nuclear deterrence forces, both in quality and quantity, in order to reliably guarantee the future of the Juche revolutionary course (ideology in the DPRK) for all centuries”

What is incomprehensible here. "Whoever comes to us with a sword ..." The DPRK is not original here.

[MIKHALYCH1]

In the meantime ... Our "beloved Balts", zrada!
So Eun is right, let him drive the staff there.))))

[Hauptam]

Quote: a52333

I don’t even know how to react! Met in the gateway racketeer and scumbag .....

This is the United States rolled into one. North Korea is the only "uncompromising" fighter against American imperialism.

[v1tz]

In the United States, diplomacy is completely absent, a bad habit of talking from a position of strength. Themselves are escalating the atmosphere in the region, then with exercises or some other garbage. Phantom pains after 1950-53 go. The peace treaty between Korea has not been signed after all.

[kergudu straight]

Yes, not where they will not introduce a contingent, they, which are completely stupid under the vigorous charge, will substitute their talerant warriors, they will, as always, do harm from around the corner

[padded jacket]

Yes, let them deploy US troops there, it’s pure - money wasted. Their base against a nuclear DPRK will only disperse their troops and money, and they will not be able to provide any significant resistance in the face of a possible nuclear strike from the DPRK.

[igorek4515]

I don’t even know how to react! Met in the gateway racketeer and scumbag .....

How to react ..? Yes, no way .. spokesman for the Russian Foreign Ministry Maria Zakharova correctly said, keep restraint and not escalate the situation .. As for the racketeer and the scumbag .. The most important racketeer and scumbag on the planet earth is the United States .. It was thanks to their efforts that this whole crisis appeared in Korean peninsula, and there was a division of the once united nation. Well, it is thanks to them and their policy to "democratize" everyone, even those who do not want this by the DPRK and created an atomic bomb and now also a thermonuclear one ... so if the international community imposes its own sanctions against someone, then first of all against USA .. But this "international community", read a gang of US vassals, will never agree to this .. So we can only wish success to Grand Marshal Kim in his difficult task of countering the main aggressor on the globe ..

[Aandrewsir]

That is, states can have and use (!) Nuclear weapons, and others - only with the permission of the United States !? Of course, I am not a supporter of the proliferation of nuclear weapons, but ... States are constantly threatening the DPRK. Should they defend themselves or not?

[Vadim237]

Moreover, North Korea, most likely, a dozen three atomic charges, low power, have already done.

[igorek4515]

States are constantly threatening the DPRK. Should they defend themselves or not?

Well, according to the US version, they shouldn't .. on the contrary, they should completely disarm and surrender to the mercy of the winners .. or, as in the next branch about testing the hydrogen bomb, one comrade wrote "go to Seoul" and live under the American dictate ..

[Awaz]

I personally think that the North Koreans in the unison of the USA are trolling the whole world. Even if the Juche’s heirs can create nuclear weapons, then they will be able to drop the maximum to Seoul or Vladivostok, well, maybe even to Tokyo, and it’s unlikely ... The threats to the United States look silly and childish. Even if the Koreans build a hundred missiles to deliver nuclear weapons, they are unlikely to reach the target, no matter how much we scolded some air defense, but they are poor and poor, and I don’t think that they are there at all. But North Korea has nothing to deliver nuclear charges to the United States ... nothing at all, and so far they have no particular prospects. (Although I’m certainly not a scout and I don’t know anything) Thermonuclear weapons are not even nuclear, they have slightly different principles of work and here I’m sure for sure that all this is nonsense.

[Vadim237]

Well, according to the latest data, the DPRK has more than a thousand tactical and ballistic medium-range missiles, they will reach all American bases in this region.

[Old26]

Quote: seti

If they deploy their troops there it will only bring tension. Yes, and it is clear Russia and China will not be silent. So I hope this does not happen.
It’s clear that there is little good in Korea’s actions, but it’s not worth aggravating. Although perhaps the Americans are doing it.

It is unlikely that this will bring additional tensions. American troops in the south of the peninsula for over 60 years. But the DPRK’s nuclear tests bring tension, as do missile tests. It is clear that the country has the right to its own defense, but no one is going to attack North Korea. Feed 25 million mouths - a burden for South Korea ...

Quote: Vadim237

We wish Iran and the DPRK success in creating thermonuclear weapons and long-range ICBMs.

How nice it will be for Russia to have in its underbelly two nuclear powers with intercontinental missiles.

Especially how glad the residents of Primorye will be if North Korea decides to teach a lesson to the south and considers the next border conflict a violation of its sovereignty. They will be happy from the radioactive fallout on their heads, from millions of refugees who have broken into the territory of Russia, when they begin to roll the northern one, returning to the Stone Age
Well, Iran with nuclear weapons and ICBMs is the best gift that Russia can get. Or "I'll frostbite my ears to spite my grandmother?"

Quote: Vadim237

In a military conflict, South Korea will be swept away, and with it all the reaction forces - which they won’t even have time to react, will only feel how the Japanese, under the atomic bombing, are what it is.

And will the Americans swallow?

[Vadim237]

Without nuclear weapons, the DPRK would have long been rolled out just like Iraq Libya and Syria - they won’t be refugees - they will fly to China - they’ll close our border, the DPRK itself can roll out well, especially if there are dozens of medium-sized nuclear charges and ballistic missiles range, only suicides will attack them. The situation will be the same with Iran.

[DPN]

It would be more interesting to get such a PIECE in KUBINS, here the USA on the ass would start tearing hair. Well done Koreans.

[Old26]

Quote: DPN

It would be more interesting to get such a PIECE in KUBINS, here the USA on the ass would start tearing hair. Well done Koreans.

Wow, would you vomit? Yes, you are a fantastic friend. And Fidel is not a suicide. In order to roll the DPRK, the Americans will have to transfer their aviation and navy across the Pacific Ocean. And the Cubans - they are at the "pistol shot" range. Any use against the Americans would instantly turn Cuba into a heap of radioactive ruins

[jovanni]

I wonder where the seshea has so many "reaction forces" that the whole world is swung with their reaction? Of course, the response to the response is different. For someone to put it in their pants, - to react ...

[cap]

Today is January 8th, the North Korean leader has a birthday with which I congratulate him. He was 33 years old. His presence in such a high post and actions, evoke different thoughts, I will cite several publications from which I draw a conclusion.
It’s dangerous to give comrade matches, let alone God forbid nuclear weapons and even more so hydrogen ones.
“Chan Song Thaek was the second person in North Korea — he was the chief adviser to Kim Jong-un and his uncle. On December 11, the bewildered Chan Song-taek was taken out of the hall of the Political Bureau of the Korean Labor Party by the arms. He was accused of attempting a coup d'etat, corruption, depraved behavior, counter-revolutionary activity and drug use. The sentence - the death penalty - was executed the very next day. "
Chan Song Thaek, one of the most influential North Korean politicians and uncle of the DPRK leader Kim Jong-un, was shot. The official version says that he was trying to "commit a terrible crime." (Reuters)
2. “Former lover of North Korean leader Kim Jong-un, singer Hyun Song-wol was publicly shot as part of a group of other musicians on August 20, reports chosun.com.
The verdict was carried out in front of other musicians and their families who were sent to camps According to sources in China, singer Hyun Song Vol and the leader of the Yinhasu Orchestra were arrested on August 17 for violating the pornography law, and were publicly shot three days later. "
In addition, the current wife of Kim Jong Un, Lee Seol Yoo, who was also the singer of the Milky Way Orchestra, may be related to the execution.
For the first time, the name of the North Korean singer Hyun Sung Vol became known in the West a little over a year ago, in reports about the wedding and birth of a child with Kim Jong-un. Then it was reported that Hyun Song-wol was Kim’s mistress more than 10 years ago and that his father, Kim Jong Il, forced him to part with her. After that, according to rumors, Hyun Song-wol married a certain officer.
3. “In North Korea, DPRK Defense Minister Hyun Yong Chol was shot from an anti-aircraft gun. This was reported by the South Korean news agency "Renhap". Another high-ranking official was sentenced to death for treason, although South Korean intelligence claims he just dozed off at a meeting with the country's leader Kim Jong-un. "
4. According to the National Intelligence of South Korea, last month alone, 15 major leaders of various departments were executed in the DPRK. Hyun Yong Chol was appointed Chief of the General Staff of the Korean People's Army in July 2012, according to the TV Center. Happy birthday again. The birthday man gave a salute in his honor. And at the same time, so that the world does not sleep. Something like that

[cap]

Here's another fly in the ointment, from sworn friends.
"The State Department and the Pentagon commented on the possibility of placing US nuclear weapons in South Korea
8 2016g January.
State Department spokesman John Kirby and the Pentagon Peter Cook commented on media reports that US tactical nuclear weapons could be deployed in South Korea.
Reuters, citing a source in the South Korean military department, reported that South Korea is negotiating with the United States to deploy US strategic forces and facilities on the Korean Peninsula, RIA Novosti reports.
“... this confirms the need for American leadership”
Asked if there was a similar request from Seoul, Kirby replied that he was not aware of this. Kirby recalled that the United States has been deploying additional weapons systems in Southeast Asia in recent years, including missile defense.
“Did this deter (DPRK) from testing? No, but it confirms the need for American leadership, "Kirby said."
Here's your grandmother and St. George's Day.

[Vadim237]

Russia can not worry at all about this, these bombs still have to be delivered to the target, and given the capabilities of modern air defense systems, it will be very difficult, our Strategic Rocket Forces will destroy this base, in case of war with us, in a few minutes, the time of thermonuclear bombs has passed.

[igorek4515]

Mr. Kep!

His presence in such a high post and actions, evoke different thoughts, I will cite several publications from which I draw a conclusion.
It’s dangerous to give comrade matches, let alone God forbid nuclear weapons and even more so hydrogen ones.

And on the basis of what you made such a conclusion .. * Oh yes ... Here it is:

“Chan Song Thaek was the second person in North Korea — he was the chief adviser to Kim Jong-un and his uncle. On December 11, the bewildered Chan Song-taek was taken out of the hall of the Political Bureau of the Korean Labor Party by the arms. He was accused of attempting a coup d'etat, corruption, depraved behavior, counter-revolutionary activity and drug use. The sentence - the death penalty - was executed the very next day. "
Chan Song Thaek, one of the most influential North Korean politicians and uncle of the DPRK leader Kim Jong-un, was shot. The official version says that he was trying to "commit a terrible crime." (Reuters)

“The former lover of North Korean leader Kim Jong-un, singer Hyun Song-wol, was publicly shot as part of a group of other musicians on August 20, reports chosun.com.
The verdict was carried out in front of other musicians and their families who were sent to camps According to sources in China, singer Hyun Song Vol and the leader of the Yinhasu Orchestra were arrested on August 17 for violating the pornography law, and were publicly shot three days later. "

Mr. Kep ​​.. Have you at least inquired about the primary source of this "information" ..? Where did Reuters get this information in the first case ..? Surely they themselves worked in the North. Korea .. Alas and already .. They just reprinted these "news" from a South Korean newspaper, it seems "Joseon Ilbao" .. And believe South Korean sources, do not respect yourself .. Just because it is openly hostile to the DPRK, which is not even officially as a state of the DPRK admits. Secondly, it is in a state of de facto war with the DPRK after the war of 1950-53. it would be foolish to expect from them in such a situation some kind of objective and unbiased information .. In war, as in war, you know .. Thirdly and most importantly, in South Korea, from December 1948 to this day, the Law on National Security has been in force, according to which in Republic of Korea, i.e. in South Korea, any citizen of the South Caucasus who speaks out publicly or on the Internet in relation to a "hostile anti-state organization" and this is how the DPRK is called in this law, or even downloads from the Internet and stores or simply listens to audio or video files, including music from North Korea runs the risk of getting a real prison term of up to 7 years .. And there have already been such precedents .. Any communication not sanctioned by the state with DPRK citizens, either in person or via the Internet or in any other way, is also punishable by imprisonment .. so something like that. Fourth .. The respected Reuters news agency, having published this "news" about the execution of uncle Kim Jong-un, did not even bother to indicate the source of this news and at least somehow confirm the reliability of this information .. But it looks like the citizens who are driving do not need any confirmation .. enough for a world-renowned news agency publish some kind of fake and they will unconditionally believe him .. As for the singer Itsy .. Then she is alive and well and continues to sing on stage as if nothing had happened. This has even been denied by meticulous Internet users.
so Mr. Kep, please be careful and succumb to all this Western propaganda ..

[igorek4515]

"The State Department and the Pentagon commented on the possibility of placing US nuclear weapons in South Korea
8 2016g January.
State Department spokesman John Kirby and the Pentagon Peter Cook commented on media reports that US tactical nuclear weapons could be deployed in South Korea.
Reuters, citing a source in the South Korean military department, said that South Korea is negotiating with the United States to deploy US strategic forces and facilities on the Korean peninsula, RIA Novosti reports.

In general, RIA Novosti revealed to us America ..)))) Yes, American tactical nuclear weapons in South Korea have always been from the 60s and have not disappeared to this day .. Actually, this was one of the motives for the DPRK to create its own nuclear weapons. This has long been known to everyone who is seriously interested in the situation on the Korean Peninsula. In addition, American atomic submarines come there annually and B-52 bombers from about. guam and B-2 from the territory of the United States for exercises and no one will guarantee that they arrive without nuclear gifts on board since the Americans themselves do not advertise this fact but do not refute it ..

I personally think that the North Koreans in the unison of the USA are trolling the whole world. Even if the Juche’s heirs can create nuclear weapons, then they will be able to drop the maximum to Seoul or Vladivostok, well, maybe even to Tokyo, and that is unlikely ...

You are mistaken .. North Korea already has its medium-range missiles with a firing range of 6000 km. and they even showed them at their military parades, and even the Americans themselves confirm this .. so North Koreans can very well shoot both in Japan and Alaska and at the Amer bases in Guam .. And maybe even Hawaii .. As for the fact that they, along with the amers, at the same time troll everyone else, you probably just don’t know that the USA and the DPRK do not even have diplomatic relations with each other and are de facto at war after the war of 1950-53 ..

[Old26]

Quote: Aandrewsir

States are constantly threatening the DPRK.

And they will continue. But it’s interesting. It doesn’t go beyond conversations. For 60 years, if you would like to, they would have already been erased into powder. And do not say what the USSR would cover. During the war in Korea, the number of Soviet nuclear charges was about 5-6, while the Americans planned to use 7 only in Pyongyang.

Quote: Vadim237

Moreover, North Korea, most likely, a dozen three atomic charges, low power, have already done.

According to experts, including and Russian, the amount of fissile material in the DPRK is about 10-15 charges, perhaps a little more, up to 20. Tritium production has not yet been established, so a hydrogen bomb with a capacity of as much as 6 kilotons is most likely a fake.

Quote: igorek4515

Yes, American tactical nuclear weapons in South Korea have always been since the 60s and have not disappeared to this day ..

From 1958. And until 1991. In 1991, American tactical weapons were removed from the peninsula. But you are right. Transferring there by air or submarine is not a problem.

Quote: igorek4515

You are mistaken .. North Korea already has its medium-range missiles with a firing range of 6000 km. and they even showed them at their military parades, and even the Americans themselves confirm this .. so North Koreans can very well pull both in Japan and Alaska and at the Amer bases in Guam .. And maybe even Hawaii ..

Yes they do. In an amount of less than 10 pieces. Moreover, shown at the parade in 2012 - nothing more than mock-ups, not real ones. Of the 4 trials of this rocket, 3 were failures. In addition, at such a range they are capable of throwing BGs weighing about 600 kg with a KVO of 4 km. According to Russian estimates, the most powerful charge they experienced was no more than 10 ct. With such accuracy ....

Quote: Vadim237

Well, according to the latest data, the DPRK has more than a thousand tactical and ballistic medium-range missiles, they will reach all American bases in this region.

The quantity itself is by no means an indicator. What is the point in the fact that, for example, the North Koreans have at least 1-30 medium-range missiles of the Tephodong-40 type, and the number of stationary ground (not mine) launchers is from 3 to 6?
Or the same North Koreans have about 200 BM-25 missiles, aka "Musudan", aka "Hwaseong-10", but at the same time they have from 12 to 20 launchers. In addition, all missiles are liquid-propellant, not ampouled. And if the rockets of the first and second launches for mobile devices can be fueled for some time, then the rockets of subsequent launches are in "dry" form. On stationary ones, it will be refueled immediately before launch, since a 60-80 ton rocket will be raised from a horizontal to a vertical position ...
So, the quantity in this case is not the most important factor. The main number of launchers and and the degree of readiness

[Vadim237]

The data on 15 20 atomic bombs was 5 years ago, since then, most likely, they did much more in North Korea, the same with missiles, about their missile bases and the missiles themselves, little is known for sure who knows, maybe there as in Iran. underground missile bases unknown to outsiders and from satellites, maybe the DPRK tested a not quite hydrogen bomb, - maybe the assembly was with a deuterium capsule or liquid hydrogen.

[igorek4515]

And they will continue. But it’s interesting. It doesn’t go beyond conversations. For 60 years, if you would like to, they would have already been erased into powder. And do not say that the USSR would cover

There is no doubt that they will continue, just as there is no doubt that, apart from talking, it will not go further. As for the USSR .. This is not about the USSR. The DPRK had, as far as I know, a bilateral agreement is still in force that if a military aggression is committed against the DPRK, then China undertakes to provide Pyongyang with military assistance, including directly sending its troops. The Americans know this, and therefore they will not risk contacting China directly, even in the DPRK. especially after the war of 1950-53, when the so-called "Chinese volunteers" poked them a lot ..

During the war in Korea, the number of Soviet nuclear charges was about 5-6,

And where do the "fireballs" come from ..? For example, I have not seen this in any serious source ..

According to experts, including and Russian, the amount of fissile material in the DPRK is about 10-15 charges, perhaps a little more, up to 20.

Well, I wouldn’t so categorically take any experts’s word for word .. all the more reliably nobody knows for sure what and how much is available in this country ..

Tritium production has not yet been established, so a hydrogen bomb with a capacity of as much as 6 kilotons is most likely a fake.

again, depending on what sources to rely on .. The DPRK is very actively developing its nuclear industry, and again, judging by some sources, they have started production of tritium. In addition, the creation of a thermonuclear bomb is possible without obtaining pure tritium. There are several varieties of thermonuclear munitions. so I wouldn’t argue so unconditionally that this is a fake .. all the more so since nobody knows the real level of North Korean nuclear science and industry ..

From 1958. And until 1991. In 1991, American tactical weapons were removed from the peninsula.

This was stated by the Americans and unofficially, but at the same time they did not provide any evidence that they were taken out. so there are real doubts that if they didn’t take it out, then not all or not all.

Yes they do. In an amount of less than 10 pieces. Moreover, shown at the parade in 2012 - nothing more than mock-ups, not real ones. Of the 4 trials of this rocket, 3 were failures. In addition, at such a range they are capable of throwing BGs weighing about 600 kg with a KVO of 4 km. According to Russian estimates, the most powerful charge they experienced was no more than 10 ct. With such accuracy ....

The fact of the matter is that this is the data for 2012, and now 2016 has come .. The North Koreans, in addition to nuclear, are very actively developing the missile program and have made significant progress in it .. there is also information for 2015 that they already if they didn’t then we came close to creating an intercontinental missile with a range of up to 10000 km .. its name brand KN-08 is even called .. so there is far from everything so simple ..

So, the quantity in this case is not the most important factor. The main number of launchers and and the degree of readiness

Here I agree ..

[igorek4515]

Moreover, shown at the parade in 2012 - nothing more than mock-ups, not real ones.

And who defined it ... journalists ..? And on what grounds ..? In general, no one can say for sure whether the models were real rockets .. So, some assumptions, it follows from this that such statements may well turn out to be untenable.

[Ros 56]

The people, I see, some of the members of the forum have already gathered to fight with nuclear weapons. You think about it, should we not know what it is, remember Chernobyl, a small broads with big problems, and if for an adult, then kirdyk to everyone. Look at your children, grandchildren. I’m not talking about my mother-in-law, don’t I feel sorry for my descendants? Let's be more serious.

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Quote: Vadim237

The data on 15 20 atomic bombs was 5 years ago, since then, most likely, they did much more in North Korea, the same with missiles, about their missile bases and the missiles themselves, little is known for sure who knows, maybe there as in Iran. underground missile bases unknown to outsiders and from satellites, maybe the DPRK tested a not quite hydrogen bomb, - maybe the assembly was with a deuterium capsule or liquid hydrogen.

I can’t say with an accuracy of a month / year, but the production did not work for a long time. They EMNIP blew up certain fragments of the reactor. Judging by the power, the production of plutonium from them is about one and a half kilograms per year. So I don’t think that now they have much more charges, nevertheless I am more inclined that the quantity is still no more than 20. Although you are right, the potential of the DPRK can be judged only by indirect data.
They really have a lot of missiles, but they don't really have launchers. Even the same analogue of our "Tochka-U" has a ratio of the missile-PU approximately as 5 to one. Why this is so - to be honest, I do not know, but alas, this is confirmed from many sources.
The North Koreans really have missile systems hidden in the mountains (workings), But again, there will be much less launchers.

Mines (rocket bases) are of course difficult to detect, but not impossible. Their creation is not a matter of 1-2 days. And the unmasking signs will not go anywhere, especially if you deliberately monitor this, which the Americans, in principle, are doing. North Korea is still a problem country for them.

About the bomb. As far as I read, Koreans cannot create a fail-safe implosive scheme so far. And the power of the last explosion does not suggest the idea that a thermonuclear charge has been exploded

Quote: igorek4515

There is no doubt that they will continue, just as there is no doubt that things will not go on except for conversations. As for the USSR .. That’s not the case in the USSR. As far as I know, the DPRK still has a bilateral agreement that if a military aggression is committed against the DPRK, then China is obliged to provide Pyongyang with military assistance, including directly sending its troops.

Yes, such an article is present in the prolonged agreement (thank God, we no longer have it). But with their tricks, the North Koreans sometimes even got the Chinese. Therefore, there is doubt that if the North Koreans begin, the Chinese will not be eager to send troops there. Yet they are quite tightly integrated into the world

[Old26]

economic system to risk it

Quote: igorek4515

During the Korean War, the number of Soviet nuclear warheads was about 5-6 pieces, And where do the "firewood" come from ..? For example, I have not seen this in any serious source ..

The data is certainly not from Wikipedia. Something was in the publications of Rosatom, something on the US resources. Most of them either coincide or are close. After a couple of days, I will reanimate my stationary computer and if you do not lose interest, I can reset you info on this topic. Just drop me your email in a personal, because infa is quite voluminous. And about the US determination to strike North Korea during the war and the number of charges - infa quite common

Quote: igorek4515

Well, I wouldn’t so categorically take any experts’s word for word .. all the more reliably nobody knows for sure what and how much is available in this country ..

And I just don't believe it. More than 20 years of studying such topics as PD, ITR + analytics in the field of rocket and space technology have taught us not to take our word for it and repeatedly check and double-check the materials. I agree that everything is problematic with the data on the DPRK, but the "order" of the numbers can still be checked.

Quote: igorek4515

again, depending on what sources to rely on .. The DPRK is very actively developing its nuclear industry, and again, judging by some sources, they have started production of tritium. In addition, the creation of a thermonuclear bomb is possible without obtaining pure tritium. There are several varieties of thermonuclear munitions. so I wouldn’t argue so unconditionally that this is a fake .. all the more so since nobody knows the real level of North Korean nuclear science and industry ..

Igor! I will not say with tritium with a 100% guarantee, although I read about this very recently. Yes, there were no 100% claims, but the information was such that there were problems with receipt and they were not resolved. It is clear that it was a question of industrial production. Yes, it is possible to create not with pure tritium, but nevertheless, the basis of North Korean nuclear science is mainly Soviet (and, accordingly, Chinese) scientific schools. Power of a thermonuclear charge of 6 kt ???? I do not know. Any of the countries that experienced such charges had such charges at least an order of magnitude higher ... And here is the 4th test explosion and already a thermonuclear bomb with such an energy output ... North Korean genius or fake?

Quote: igorek4515

This was stated by the Americans and unofficially, but at the same time they did not provide any evidence that they were taken out. so there are real doubts that if they didn’t take it out, then not all or not all.

In this case, absolutely no information can be considered reliable. At least, absolutely no difference, Igor, the Americans officially or unofficially announced this, but this figure appears in open sources about the presence of American tactical nuclear weapons on the Korean Peninsula. So let's still consider official publications credible. In addition, whether TNW is present or not is not so important. It can be redeployed at any time.

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Quote: igorek4515

The fact of the matter is that this is the data for 2012, and now 2016 has come .. The North Koreans, in addition to nuclear, are very actively developing the missile program and have made significant progress in it .. there is also information for 2015 that they already if they didn’t then we came close to creating an intercontinental missile with a range of up to 10000 km .. its name brand KN-08 is even called .. so there is far from everything so simple ..

Igor, I was not in vain focusing on the 2012 parade. What they showed there really was neither a launcher nor a real combat missile. However, the display at the 2014 parade has already shown real military missiles in the TPK.
This missile - the designation in the DPRK "Hwaseong-13" has a range of about 7000 km. But alas, it is enough to call it a full-fledged ICBM, since they will not cover the continental part of the United States. Only Alaska and Hawaii.
But the next model with a range of 10000 km, known as "Hwaseong-3" (even here the North Koreans have a complete mess in the indices) is able to do this. True, her throwing weight, according to various sources, is from 500 to 1000 kg

Quote: igorek4515

And who defined it ... journalists ..? And on what grounds ..? In general, no one can say for sure whether the models were real rockets .. So, some assumptions, it follows from this that such statements may well turn out to be untenable.

Journalists ??? No thanks. To believe them in this area is not to respect yourself. This problem was discussed at a number of military-technical forums, and I personally know some of those discussed. One of them worked in one of the missile design bureaus, the second - he graduated from the missile weapons department of one of the missile armies. High-class specialists (engineers). Understood mount on a rocket carrier and stuff, stuff ...
I completely trust them in the discussion of this problem. And the writings of journalists - fire.

[lilian]

The North Korea launched the satellite earlier than the South, which could not do without the help of Russian specialists. They have brains, why not believe what the thermonuclear bomb did. Even if not in the form of a warhead or a bomb.

From the point of view of justice, the UK has the right to these weapons, as well as the USA and Russia and any country. Disarm so all together.

But the sad thing is that in the event of a turmoil in this region, the United States will only win. They are far away. UK is the world's largest shipbuilder, also not the last in the production of electronics and cars. This is what a competitor to iPhones and GM can disappear. Russia and China will have the opportunity to annoy, they are nearby. And all by the wrong hands, just a business provocation of some kind.

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Quote: lilian

The North Korea launched the satellite earlier than the South, which could not do without the help of Russian specialists. They have brains, why not believe what the thermonuclear bomb did. Even if not in the form of a warhead or a bomb.

North Korea also created its own launch vehicle not from scratch.

You can do it with a developed infrastructure. And then on the 4th test - and a hydrogen bomb. Moreover, such power. "I do not believe"

Quote: lilian

From the point of view of justice, the UK has the right to these weapons, as well as the USA and Russia and any country. Disarm so all together.

In terms of justice, yes. But for Russia it is absolutely not profitable. Around us are nuclear China and North Korea, Pakistan and India, Israel, France and England. Plus the threshold of Iran. When they become our opponents is unknown. And everyone will disarm together, alas, it will not work

[lilian]

I noticed that when there is news that Russia is selling weapons to someone (China, India, Iran, for example), then immediately there are comments that they can become enemies. For the USA, is there really no problem in the appearance of enemies when weapons are sold? If even India, North Korea, China and Iran are potential enemies, then with whom, then, can Russia feel in relatively friendly relations? Is Russia alone against the whole world? Maybe this is the fault of Russian diplomats? Could not establish mutual relations sufficiently beneficial for both parties. With Turkey, Erdogan is a scoundrel, of course, but before that (in the summer about) they agreed to transfer to rubles, and the Americans took Turkey away, offered or frightened a lot of profit.
Why Russia can’t gather on the planet Earth a skeleton of more or less faithful (not friends) but at least t.s. accomplices. The USSR, which was a country, but did the Warsaw Pact, was not one on one with Europe and the USA. North Korea, no matter what they say, but it is an enemy of the United States, it means a friend of Russia, why do not they establish closer relations?

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Quote: lilian

I noticed that when there is news that Russia is selling weapons to someone (China, India, Iran, for example), then immediately there are comments that they can become enemies. For the USA, is there really no problem in the appearance of enemies when weapons are sold?

And where will the problem of enemies come from? The country has the most powerful military potential in the world. The rest in comparison with it is a trifle, especially on its own, American, continent. It was in the 19th century that she had an adversary in the form of Mexico. And then ... Being beyond the oceans she was not afraid then and is not afraid now
We are a continental country. And next to us are countries, selling weapons to which we can in the future get an enemy armed with our own weapons. Take China as an example. The 50s were years of "fraternal" friendship between the USSR and China (as was sung in the songs of that time, "Russian and Chinese brothers forever." With our help, they began to raise their military industry, a missile and nuclear industry was created. ? Almost half a century of cooling and open confrontation. Now we sell them the latest models of aircraft and air defense systems. And what will happen next?
Or Iran? Many argue that he possesses not only nuclear weapons, but also delivery vehicles, will they save him from US aggression? But in order to survive, he must have a potential at least comparable to American. But this is not. But the country seeks to dominate the region and the Muslim republics of the former Union also enter the zone of its interests. Do we need this? And DPRK with its leadership is by no means an ally to us. He is on his mind.

Quote: lilian

North Korea, no matter what they say, but it is an enemy of the United States, it means a friend of Russia, why do not they establish closer relations?

Not always the enemy of my enemy is my friend. It is not for nothing that the new version of the treaty with the DPRK no longer contains an article on "mutual assistance"