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Media: Algeria bought Russian Su-34

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Algerian resource "Menadefense" posted information on the conclusion of a contract between Algeria and Russia for the supply of Su-32 bombers (export version of Su-34), the blog reports bmpd.


The alleged type of Su-32 bombers of the Algerian Air Force.

If the information is true, the Algerian Air Force will be the first foreign operators of this type of aircraft.

According to the resource, "Algeria ordered 12 aircraft Su-32." It is noted that negotiations on the purchase of aircraft last from 2011. Then the Algerian negotiators "became hostages of the clan war in the country's leadership."

“In the end, the war in Syria and the financial crisis put an end to disputes and united supporters of different points of view. They all share the view that the Algerian Air Force needs a return to the modernization plan from 2010 of the year, which provides for the number of fleet in 300 aircraft, as well as standardization of the aircraft fleet, including by manufacturer, “Menadefense” writes.

According to the information, the Algerian military also show interest in "reconnaissance and EW aircraft modifications." Total allegedly ordered 40 machines, and the contract for 12 bombers is only the "first signs". The amount of the first contract, according to the resource, was $ 500 million.
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  1. makst83
    makst83 7 January 2016 11: 12
    92
    The Syrian company is starting to pay off! soldier profit however!)
    1. Ihrek
      Ihrek 7 January 2016 11: 15
      71
      I think this is the first swallow. Russian technology has proven itself at a good level, it is better than any words. And it will pay off (this company in Syria) will pay off. After all, the same money would be spent on exercises (well, or the same money). And here it’s useful and pleasant as they say, and the world saw not in words but in deed what our technology is capable of, you can’t imagine the best advertising. And let all kinds of unfriendly strategists know that Russia has something to answer all the threats.
      1. makst83
        makst83 7 January 2016 11: 20
        21
        agreed dear! There is also such an abbreviation, which, I am sure, everyone already knows SVP-24, and this is a huge potential in the modernization of "stupid" hardware! laughing
        Py.Sy. Merikos with their JDAM nervously smoke at the corner!
        1. Inok10
          Inok10 7 January 2016 16: 27
          15
          Quote: makst83
          agreed dear! There is also such an abbreviation, which, I am sure, everyone already knows SVP-24, and this is a huge potential in the modernization of "stupid" hardware!
          Py.Sy. Merikos with their JDAM nervously smoke at the corner!

          .. Hephaestus is gorgeous no words hi .. and Algeria is a longtime admirer of the products of our military-industrial complex .. those same SU-24s were brought to version MK2 ..
          In 2000, a contract was signed for the delivery to Algeria of 22 Su-24MK2 also from the presence of the Russian Ministry of Defense in the amount of $ 120 million, which, after modernization, should have been delivered to the customer in 2001 (10 units) and 2002 (12 units) . It is likely that 10 Su-24Ms were partially used for deliveries to Algeria, which in 2000 the Ministry of Defense of Russia transferred to the plant in payment for the previously completed state defense order.
          It appears that these photos mainly show the actual "Algerian" Su-24MKs undergoing repair and modernization at one of the Russian enterprises (most likely, NAPO, less likely 514th Aircraft Repair Plant in Rzhev). Taking into account the fact that the Algerian Air Force has a total of 44 Su-24s of various modifications (38 Su-24MK2, 4 Su-24MRK2 and 2 Su-24MP), the photo shows just those aircraft that did not belong to two contracts for modernization 25 Russian Su-24Ms from stock, but were purchased by Algeria in the USSR and Ukraine.
          .. source: http://bmpd.livejournal.com/176076.html
          .. and yet there is one very interesting point .. as part of the equipment of the Algerian SU-24MK2 there was an interesting unit .. nicknamed KS 418E "system for countering radar detection equipment" .. in the photo .. wink
          1. Inok10
            Inok10 7 January 2016 16: 30
            12
            Quote: Inok10
            KS 418E "system for countering radar detection equipment"

            .. P. S .: .. SU-34 .. something very familiar ?! .. is not it ? .. laughing
      2. dmi.pris
        dmi.pris 7 January 2016 11: 25
        28
        War is the best advertisement and engine of progress .. unfortunately ..
        1. Andrey Yuryevich
          Andrey Yuryevich 7 January 2016 16: 53
          +4
          Quote: dmi.pris
          War is the best advertisement and engine of progress .. unfortunately ..

          Is it in vain that the USA is brewing war everywhere? a profitable business ... oil is resting ... of course, bad associations, but if not us, then they ...
      3. seti
        seti 7 January 2016 11: 35
        29
        Algeria is a traditional buyer of our weapons. Just remember the T-90 contracts. It is clear that after several tens of C-30 it’s logical to buy a fighter-bomber with an emphasis on the latter. Moreover, the plane is very, very successful and of a completely new level. 12 pieces are certainly not very many, but the appetite comes with eating. So if you decide to buy 40 pieces, then this is a very good investment.
        In general, in the region, the army of Algeria looks very decent and modern. But the main thing is that she stay us friendly. I don’t really want to arm the enemy.
        1. demo
          demo 7 January 2016 12: 53
          +7
          ".... which provides for a fleet of 300 aircraft, as well as standardization of the aircraft fleet, including by manufacturer."

          Pay attention to the phrase - "standardization of the aircraft fleet".
          Those. It is planned to form aircraft equipment, its maintenance, spare parts, and everything interfaced with it from one manufacturer.
          So for the consumer and easier, more convenient and cheaper.
          1. Mahmut
            Mahmut 8 January 2016 08: 20
            -4
            The military-industrial complex can bring down the country's budget, as in the USSR. And it can stretch the economy, as in the United States.
            1. SergeySK
              SergeySK 8 January 2016 17: 16
              -5
              Will surely bring down! After all, we are going to give!

              And how is it like in the USA? Printing machines to include?
            2. hawk
              hawk 8 January 2016 18: 57
              +2
              Well, some regions live at the expense of it. The whole economy will not be pulled out, as in Nazi Germany, especially since he himself needs further sovereign support ...
        2. Bkmz
          Bkmz 8 January 2016 08: 35
          +3
          Russia has two allies - the army and navy. All around are potential enemies.
        3. spy008
          spy008 8 January 2016 13: 04
          0
          Quote: seti
          But the main thing is that she stay us friendly. I don’t really want to arm the enemy.

          ... so I thought about it. God forbid the Merikos will arrange the "orange" there - everything would not have turned against Russia what
          1. hawk
            hawk 8 January 2016 19: 03
            +7
            Colleagues, my factory is among a dozen others involved in the modernization of Algerian armor. And this is already the second three-year "wave". Everything is serious, spare parts warehouses and maintenance workshops with appropriate diagnostic, adjustment and repair equipment are being created. I would like to believe that it is strong and lasting ...
        4. Dilshat
          Dilshat 8 January 2016 22: 15
          +2
          1. Well, if you want to buy a modern, reliable and most important low-cost weapon, don’t go to the grandmother-Russia. No options. No one has the price-performance ratio anymore. What machine is that tank or plane.
          2. Algeria, therefore, buys weapons from Russia so as not to fall under the influence of the igil.
          1. glasha3032
            glasha3032 9 January 2016 02: 51
            0
            Is it always good when the price is low? Low price is a low remuneration of workers and engineers of enterprises involved in the manufacture of aircraft. It’s hardly worth it to be proud of ...
      4. the most important
        the most important 7 January 2016 12: 15
        +3
        Quote: Jamal1974
        I think this is the first swallow.

        Maybe this is the first ducklings ??? Although, this is the case when ducklings have swallows !!!
      5. NIKNN
        NIKNN 7 January 2016 12: 32
        +6
        Quote: Jamal1974
        I think this is the first swallow. Russian technology has proven itself at a good level, it is better than any words. And it will pay off (this company in Syria) will pay off. After all, the same money would be spent on exercises (well, or the same money). And here it’s useful and pleasant as they say, and the world saw not in words but in deed what our technology is capable of, you can’t imagine the best advertising. And let all kinds of unfriendly strategists know that Russia has something to answer all the threats.

        Everything is correct, of course, but the disappearance of pirated oil from the market will give a greater economic effect, and as the hero from "The Incredible Adventures of Italians in Russia" said "... whoever found a friend found a treasure ..." wink
      6. vkfriendly
        vkfriendly 8 January 2016 07: 50
        0
        I support. As long as the world gendarme exists in the person of the United States and its shadow hangs over the states. Our equipment will be in demand. We play into our hands.
    2. seti
      seti 7 January 2016 11: 20
      16
      Well, that's nice. Oil at 32 $ is understandable not only before, and you need to saturate the budget with all of them wells. And most importantly, our military-industrial complex is provided not only by state orders, now our people will be provided with work and not, say, Americans. I think there will be more such orders soon.
      The plane is great - it’s his time right after the time of the Su-30, MiG-35 is on its way. Well, the Su-35 is already for sale.
      1. BilliBoms09
        BilliBoms09 7 January 2016 11: 43
        +5
        And most importantly, our military-industrial complex is provided not only by state orders,
        I agree with you ... but the main and very significant violin must be played by the state order. In all countries with a developed defense industry, the main profit is brought by the state order, and third-party orders are a nice addition.
    3. KnightRider
      KnightRider 7 January 2016 11: 21
      +5
      Another 12 combat vehicles in the piggy bank of export orders for military aircraft in 2015. Total already 103 turns out! Plus, another customer for the Yak-130 showed up - Myanmar soldier
      1. Alexander Romanov
        Alexander Romanov 7 January 2016 13: 39
        +7
        Quote: KnightRider
        Another 12 combat vehicles in the piggy bank of export orders for military aircraft in 2015

        I’ll drink everything, but I won’t disgrace the fleet. Comments from the same series.
        12 bombers is only the "first swallow". The amount of the first contract, according to the resource, amounted to $ 500 million.
        Nonsense, how much does one aircraft cost, less than 50 million nudes
        1. gjv
          gjv 7 January 2016 14: 39
          +9
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Nonsense, how much does one aircraft cost, less than 50 million nudes

          In 2014, the cost for its Air Force was 1,5 billion rubles. This is in dollars at the then rate of 35,16 rubles. it turns out $ 42 662 116.
          The Algerian contract assumes a price for one plane of 500 / 000 = 000 $.
          This is somewhat cheaper than for their own Air Force. Of course I would like more profit. However, one should not forget that these will be the Su-32s with "stuffing" somewhat simpler.
          1. aleksandrs95
            aleksandrs95 8 January 2016 13: 13
            +1
            spare parts, spare parts, this is where the real profit lies, both on the German automobile industry and on airplanes. No wonder the Indians complained about the coefficient of readiness of the boards, it is necessary to spend money on spare parts.
    4. MIKHALYCH1
      MIKHALYCH1 7 January 2016 11: 22
      27
      Quote: makst83
      The Syrian company is starting to pay off! soldier profit however!)

      And this is just the beginning ... Yet Putin was right when he launched a military operation in Syria! They showed in Ukraine who the "polite" are, in Syria what our aviation and the Caspian fleet can do, etc.! And the most important thing in all this is that they showed the whole world the true face of Western "crap" ... Now many people look at Russia with the hope that we are reliable and are not afraid to enter into a fight with the enemy stronger than us in terms of economic power and military power ... We are strong in spirit! Well for Russia .. drinks
      1. Tusv
        Tusv 7 January 2016 13: 05
        0
        Quote: MIKHALYCHXNNX
        Caspian Fleet.

        But in the Caspian, it’s not a fleet, but a flotilla. True adversary from this is not easier. Even worse - armed to the teeth and Volgobalt available. Into a fight? Why scare western crap democracy so? The massive release of stray Ica adversely affects the environment
        Happy holiday
        1. Andrey Yuryevich
          Andrey Yuryevich 7 January 2016 17: 03
          -9
          Quote: Tusv
          adversity is no easier.

          why not finally switch to Old Slavic? zadolbali definitions "pin..tana", such as: a thief, an adversary ... for solidity or what? why the hell to pretend to be "old warriors" like: "don't shut up, let me come ..." and almost through a comment ... just say: the enemy is not destiny?
          1. Tusv
            Tusv 7 January 2016 17: 42
            +4
            Quote: Andrew Y.
            just say: the adversary is not fate?

            At the train station
            - A rapist, a rapist, a rapist!
            - I'm not a rapist, I'm a porter
            - Who cares. Anyway, a slammer
            Great and mighty His Majesty the Russian language. But decency must be respected. You read Adversary, Barmaley, but they mean ... pee pee. Not for women's ears. drinks
          2. EvgNik
            EvgNik 9 January 2016 13: 30
            0
            Quote: Andrey Yurievich
            why not finally switch to Old Slavic? sick of it

            Perhaps I agree. Although Old Slavic is still better than Anglicism.
      2. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 7 January 2016 16: 55
        0
        Quote: MIKHALYCHXNNX
        Well, for Russia

        we all drink ... recourse
    5. little girl15
      little girl15 7 January 2016 11: 23
      +1
      Now the line will be behind this machine (not everyone will have enough money even for 1 F-35).
    6. vlad66
      vlad66 7 January 2016 11: 32
      18
      On 29.11.2015/79/34 Russian Aerospace Forces received 11 SU-2015s of them 2015 in 18. Starting from 20, it is planned to assemble 150-200 vehicles a year. While all capacities are loaded at the plants, but large-scale re-equipment is underway at the enterprises. In the future, Russian Aerospace Forces plan to receive 2020-24 aircraft and by XNUMX, replace the SU-XNUMX. Information from Wikilics / That’s the money to upgrade the plants.
      1. Iline
        Iline 7 January 2016 11: 51
        +3
        Quote: vlad66
        In the future, the Russian Aerospace Forces plan to receive 150-200 aircraft and by 2020 replace the SU-24

        Somewhere there was information that so far in our Air Force (I’m not used to clumsy VKS) the Su-24 will not be replaced by the Su-34, there will be no sales of the latter abroad. And this is quite logical.
        At best, Algerians will have to wait until 2020.
        1. vovanpain
          vovanpain 7 January 2016 12: 37
          +9
          Quote: Iline
          Su-24 will not be replaced by Su-34; there will be no sales of the latter abroad. And this is quite logical.

          In the USSR, it would be so until the Air Force was re-equipped with "Ducklings", the SU-24 would not go abroad for "friends", now the hell knows.
    7. Altona
      Altona 7 January 2016 11: 57
      +5
      Quote: makst83
      The Syrian company is starting to pay off!

      --------------------
      Many in the leadership are still praying for oil ... They think that it will grow again. All life ahead, undress and wait ...
    8. max702
      max702 7 January 2016 12: 26
      +4
      We divide 500 by 12 = 41.6 million \ dol each ... Hmm .. But did not you cheapen? Nonche, 18 units were delivered to the Army during the year, totaling 810 million .. And given that for ourselves the price is 30-50% lower, it’s 500 million for everything ... Even in the current crisis it’s ridiculous money .. Well, if we have money (in tens of billions \ dollars) for the purchase of US papers and then for airplanes like air, the country needs to be found .. So export is good, but first of all, your own army should be a priority .. There is money!
      1. rapid1934
        rapid1934 7 January 2016 12: 50
        +1
        At a price of 40 million? Very strange information, too cheap. Perhaps this is a protocol of intent.
        Algerians must set their requirements for the composition of the board and the tasks to be solved, then the price will be determined. Bringing the board to their requirements, testing and starting deliveries is 2-3 years. hi
    9. gjv
      gjv 7 January 2016 14: 15
      +1
      Quote: makst83
      The Syrian company is starting to pay off! soldier profit however!)

      In geopolitics, how to determine profit? He is so volatile.
      And for the money, 12 Su-34s for $ 500 million is even a little cheaper than for its Air Force.
    10. kodxnumx
      kodxnumx 7 January 2016 19: 04
      0
      Quote: makst83
      The Syrian company is starting to pay off! soldier profit however!)

      Well, what can I say perfectly, you can only congratulate the Algerian Air Force on a wonderful choice!
    11. Pvi1206
      Pvi1206 8 January 2016 22: 18
      -3
      to whom war, and to whom mother dear
    12. vic58
      vic58 9 January 2016 14: 24
      -1
      Sorry .... what's the profit?!? Life on a wrapper or a troy ounce?!?
      "Good exchange...
    13. Nick
      Nick 9 January 2016 21: 19
      0
      Quote: makst83
      The Syrian company is starting to pay off! soldier profit however!)

      Yes, she, in fact, was not at a loss. They simply transferred the exercises to Syria, as close as possible to combat conditions. Everything is within the MO budget, without additional appropriations.
  2. venaya
    venaya 7 January 2016 11: 15
    +4
    the contract for 12 bombers is only the first swallow. The amount of the first contract, according to the resource, amounted to $ 500 million.

    This is the first income in our pocket from the operation in Syria, and this is just the beginning!
    1. Vladimir 1964
      Vladimir 1964 7 January 2016 11: 25
      +1
      Quote: venaya
      Here are the first revenues in our pocket from the operation in Syria.


      Vyacheslav, and the article says that negotiations have been ongoing since 2011.

      According to the resource, "Algeria ordered 12 aircraft Su-32." It is noted that negotiations on the purchase of aircraft last from 2011. Then the Algerian negotiators "became hostages of the clan war in the country's leadership."


      Well, apparently a typo. repeat
      1. DenZ
        DenZ 7 January 2016 11: 44
        +3
        No typos, just thought for a long time and finally thought better of it
        Ultimately, the war in Syria and the financial crisis put an end to disputes and united supporters of different points of view.

        Are we not specifically seeing this in the article?
        1. kil 31
          kil 31 7 January 2016 12: 26
          +1
          Quote: DenZ
          No typos, just thought for a long time and finally thought better of it
          Ultimately, the war in Syria and the financial crisis put an end to disputes and united supporters of different points of view.

          Are we not specifically seeing this in the article?

          And they thought for a long time, probably because of the former delivery of the MiG-29. Unsuccessfully, we succeeded then. Disgraced all over the world. I hope this will not happen again. By the way, does anyone know what's in India. They like we wanted to make claims about the SU-30
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    2. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 7 January 2016 17: 26
      +1
      Quote: venaya
      This is the first income in our pocket from the operation in Syria, and this is just the beginning!

      Let's just say this is not a bad start, considering that after the start of the operation, military contracts have already been concluded for 17 billion dollars!
      More than a trillion rubles per quarter.
  3. lis-ik
    lis-ik 7 January 2016 11: 17
    +5
    It’s just a long time ago to switch from a pipe to technological export, at least where it always turned out very well. In principle, if you set up subsequent maintenance and are not very greedy, then from the second place you can swing at the first.
    1. dauria
      dauria 7 January 2016 11: 24
      +3
      where it always worked out very well.


      Perhaps, "Sushka" in the version of a front-line bomber really has no equal now. The exotic F-35 is not affordable for everyone, (and a bit too small), but nothing else and no one has how it happened. Surprising but true.
      1. marlin1203
        marlin1203 7 January 2016 12: 09
        0
        Since when did the f-35 become a front-line bomber? belay
        1. dauria
          dauria 7 January 2016 12: 56
          +2
          Since when did the f-35 become a front-line bomber?

          Since then, when they refused such a division - a front-line fighter, a fighter-bomber, a front-line bomber. Now they have a fighter for gaining dominance and a strike aircraft (replacing the last two) - and this is the F-35
    2. APASUS
      APASUS 7 January 2016 11: 54
      +1
      Quote: lis-ik
      It’s just a long time ago to switch from a pipe to technological export, at least where it always turned out very well. In principle, if you set up subsequent maintenance and are not very greedy, then from the second place you can swing at the first.

      The first place for Americans is not because their weapons are the most reliable, best and most modern, because in a place with a contract, Americans usually offer their political patronage, and when military, the main buyers, as a rule, are allies and vassal countries that simply have no choice.
      I think about the number of negotiations that are going on now, we will find out in 5 years, but here is the fact that Russia will sign contracts for the sale of aircraft, ships with Caliber missiles, air defense systems, electronic warfare systems. There is no doubt about the war in Syria.
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 7 January 2016 18: 01
        +7
        for APASUS:

        "The Americans have the first place, not because their weapons are the most reliable, the best and
        modern, because together with the contract, Americans usually offer
        their political patronage "////

        Not therefore.
        Their weapons are not always the most reliable and best, as you rightly noted, but ...

        together with the contract they offer good service, spare parts in 1-2 days
        to any part of the globe without any bureaucracy. And make quick alterations
        designs according to customer requirements.
        1. APASUS
          APASUS 7 January 2016 23: 27
          0
          Quote: voyaka uh
          . Their weapons are not always the most reliable and best, as you rightly noted, but ... they offer good service along with the contract, spare parts in 1-2 days to any part of the globe without any bureaucracy. And they make quick remodel designs according to customer requirements.


          As for the service, I agree with you, but ............. at the same time, the Americans have a political component almost everywhere, a political cover, you can call it by any name and not count the number of contracts that were not fulfilled precisely by political motives ........ to take even Iran. And here the factor of political motivation is sometimes more than the quality or reliability of the weapons themselves, an example of the Baltic states.
    3. Altona
      Altona 7 January 2016 12: 28
      0
      Quote: lis-ik
      then from the second place you can swing at the first.

      ----------------------------
      The United States is in the first place because they are selling weapons to anyone, and to unrecognized (them) terrorists as well. The article was recently that the United States did not boast about being the first place in the sale of weapons, because a large share is sold without tracking the final buyer ...
      1. KCA
        KCA 7 January 2016 15: 02
        0
        They simply escalating fear of Russia are forcing to increase the purchase of arms of the NATO country, but what will pro_balts buy, say? They have nothing of their own, and the older brother will force them to buy from him, and not from European manufacturers.
    4. aleksandrs95
      aleksandrs95 8 January 2016 13: 19
      0
      very correct remark.
  4. Stirbjorn
    Stirbjorn 7 January 2016 11: 17
    +2
    While there is no official information, there is nothing to discuss.
  5. Izotovp
    Izotovp 7 January 2016 11: 18
    +1
    Now just have time to collect. These first ones managed, but according to rumors, after the start of the Syrian exhibition, it’s already the turn in the store laughing
  6. Tusv
    Tusv 7 January 2016 11: 19
    +1
    Good machine turned out. Best in class
  7. avt
    avt 7 January 2016 11: 19
    12
    ,,In queue ! In the queue, you sons of bitches! "But in the 90s, the export version called Su 32 was still offered to Peace and Grad. Muzzles turned up everything. Well, okay - happy for the factory workers in Novosibirsk! good There is an order and allies will break off work and money.
    1. Evgeniy667b
      Evgeniy667b 9 January 2016 10: 28
      0
      So far, the Chkalovtsy have not completed the GOZ, so let them finish with it first. They have work and allies are also in business. And then the phantom dough obscures the whole mind!
  8. maxx1802
    maxx1802 7 January 2016 11: 20
    +1
    It's time to expand production and build new plants! And with them and create new jobs! I think our fleet will soon receive orders like the tactical missile weapons corporation!
  9. Mixweb
    Mixweb 7 January 2016 11: 20
    +6
    On the one hand, it’s bad that we are arming someone else’s instead of our army. But on the other - this is money for which you can arm your army)). And the money is not only from the sale, but also from subsequent maintenance and repair
  10. nrex
    nrex 7 January 2016 11: 34
    +2
    It is always pleasant to experience joy for domestic achievements.
  11. Foresterer
    Foresterer 7 January 2016 11: 34
    +3
    I think that others will reach for Algeria. The buyer is serious, does not run from counter to counter, looks closely for a long time and, as a rule, buys proven weapons. Moreover, he will have a serious rearmament, which means there will still be a lot of money for training and maintenance. In general, the buyer is one of those who are said to be a light hand, and the time at which the contract is concluded, which is not easy for North Africa, gives us a lot of advantages in terms of further promoting our weapons to the region. Against the background of the "most accurate" bombing of Western aviation, our air forces look more than advantageous, and whatever the press of these countries writes, the people involved in the purchase of weapons see and understand everything perfectly.
  12. parafoiler
    parafoiler 7 January 2016 11: 37
    +2
    With new orders! Plant them. V.P. Chkalov-further successes, development and modernization!
  13. nrex
    nrex 7 January 2016 11: 39
    +1
    Mixweb RU Today, 11:20 AM New
    On the one hand, it’s bad that we are arming someone else’s instead of our army. But on the other - this is money for which you can arm your army)). And the money is not only from the sale, but also from subsequent maintenance and repair

    Selling equipment of previous developments, we will build machines for ourselves based on the latest achievements with this money.
  14. LÄRZ
    LÄRZ 7 January 2016 11: 39
    +4
    Quote: maxx1802
    It's time to expand production and build new plants! And with them and create new jobs! I think our fleet will soon receive orders like the tactical missile weapons corporation!

    In-in! And work in three shifts.
  15. GSVG 86-88
    GSVG 86-88 7 January 2016 11: 43
    +1
    Something with the price is wrong, 500 million for 12 pieces is about 42 million per beaver, and the Su-30 for export is more expensive, and in any case the bomber is more expensive than a fighter.
    1. KnightRider
      KnightRider 7 January 2016 11: 56
      +2
      Quote: GSVG 86-88
      42 million per beaver

      Norm price ... Multiply 42 by 74 it will turn out 3 billion 108 million rubles apiece, it is twice as expensive as Su-34 for us
    2. mark1
      mark1 7 January 2016 12: 02
      0
      By wiki - the cost of 1 copy is 1,5 billion rubles = 21,428 dollars (approximate) at the current rate.
      Su-30 = 50 million dollars. The ratio is really strange.
  16. KnightRider
    KnightRider 7 January 2016 11: 43
    +2
    Here are the statistics on the total set for export of Russian combat and combat training aircraft to 2013-2015 years http://www.sdelanounas.ru/blogs/72484/ soldier
  17. viktor561
    viktor561 7 January 2016 11: 43
    +1
    Egypt will buy 50 helicopters for the Mistrals! The defense of dates rustling - that is, profits to the budget!
    1. lis-ik
      lis-ik 7 January 2016 11: 51
      +2
      Whether or not to buy another question, the Saudis give money.
  18. Sultan Babai
    Sultan Babai 7 January 2016 11: 48
    +1
    Weapons need to be sold, because their Air Force is asked for a specific number of planes, and if the contract is completed, the plant will do something else, not the Su-34, because the industrial areas should not stand idle (but at the same time they will remodel all the equipment for another product) . Another option is to conclude contracts with other buyers - guaranteed loading of the plant, workers' salaries, budget revenues, solid pluses, the only one will say, but what a big minus for their own Air Force. Excuse me, there is a contract and the terms are there (the timing is determined by the state itself, based on the amount laid down in the budget, we don’t get these planes for free either, however), and if the plant decides to break them, I’ll tell you as a lawyer with experience.
  19. antiexpert
    antiexpert 7 January 2016 11: 50
    +1
    now there is another answer "why did you start in Syria" - advertising in action)))
  20. MIKHALYCH1
    MIKHALYCH1 7 January 2016 12: 04
    +3
    Algeria buys, and Ukraine, what pulls? laughing At least one F-16 (used) would be bought and delivered before the rada (sometimes the engines would warm up))))) To spite Putin! wassat
    1. 0255
      0255 7 January 2016 12: 32
      +1
      Quote: MIKHALYCHXNNX
      Algeria buys, and Ukraine, what pulls? laughing At least one F-16 (used) would be bought and delivered before the rada (sometimes the engines would warm up))))) To spite Putin! wassat

      So far, NATO is giving Ukraine "Saxons" and "Hummers"

      1. Rock616
        Rock616 8 January 2016 18: 55
        0
        So, it does not, but SUFFERS laughing what's the catch, svidomye-raguli such suckers ....
        Saxons, I mean what they buy. How can IT be bought, even in the worst of times Owls. the auto industry is not one crazy designer could not bring this to light.

        P.S. And for the Hamers, the light elves will take the money, they are not the USSR, they will not give.
  21. Flat5160
    Flat5160 7 January 2016 13: 14
    0
    Advertising is advertising. Syria is not in vain, is there anything else that can be shown there?
  22. VohaAhov
    VohaAhov 7 January 2016 13: 24
    +1
    Su-34 and its "brother" Su-32 - the best "anti-democratizer" and destroyer of "Barmaley"
  23. Riperbahn
    Riperbahn 7 January 2016 13: 26
    0
    There was already a precedent when Algeria refused our contracted Su or MiGs.
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    1. Dry_T-50
      Dry_T-50 7 January 2016 16: 01
      +1
      Minus for "rashka" and get ready for the ban
  25. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 7 January 2016 14: 41
    0
    The Algerian Air Force is "at risk" of becoming the coolest in the African continent! laughing
  26. Denis Skiff
    Denis Skiff 7 January 2016 15: 10
    +1
    Quote: antiexpert
    now there is another answer "why did you start in Syria" - advertising in action)))


    And this is just the beginning.
    1. SSeT
      SSeT 9 January 2016 00: 43
      +1
      "Ducklings" are stunningly beautiful after all! THX
  27. Wolka
    Wolka 7 January 2016 15: 45
    +1
    I do not like obsessive advertising, but this is not a 25 frame in the commercial, the Russian Aerospace Forces in Syria have clearly shown who and what can in the sky today ...
  28. From Samara
    From Samara 7 January 2016 16: 05
    0
    I remember how they returned MIG-29 to us ...
    1. opus
      opus 7 January 2016 19: 53
      +3
      Quote: From Samara
      I remember how they returned MIG-29 to us ...

      30.05.2012

      Moscow City Court handed down sentences to heads of three companies(CEOs of ATK Dvizhenie LLC Sergey Sobolev, Volga-Aviaservice CJSC Mikhail Zhevagin and SNK-Plus LLC Sergey Kruglenkov) second-hand and counterfeit spare parts for RSK MiG in the framework of the famous "Algerian contract".

      supplies of unusable APD-88 (automatic engine start-ups), Sergei Kruglenkov's company - ICD (pressure control meters), and Mikhail Zhevagin's company was allegedly engaged in restoring the properties of these components. Moreover, it was found that ATK Dvizhenie and SNK-Plus did not have a license to trade in arms and military equipment. It also turned out that Sergei Sobolev created an intermediary LLC "InTech" to hide the profits from taxes.

      Well, then General Mohammed Medien, also known as Tawfik Medien, head of the intelligence and security department of the Algerian People's Democratic Republic (DRS). One of the most influential members of the Algerian "officers' regime", a representative of the Kabyle clan, "French" ... put his hand




      the contract for the supply of 28 single-seat MiG-29SMT and 6 twin MiG-29UBT cost about 1,3 billion dollars
      --------------------------------------------------
      There is no silver lining:
      MiGs shipped to Algeria were returned to Russia. Together with other machines manufactured under this contract, they underwent re-equipment, during which they got rid of counterfeit spare parts, and became the first since 1993 new MiG fighters in the Russian Air Force. These aircraft are part of the 5th (Kursk) air group of the 7000th (Voronezh) air base of the Russian Air Force.
  29. opus
    opus 7 January 2016 19: 46
    +1
    Quote: Author
    According to information, the Algerian military is also interested in "reconnaissance and electronic warfare modifications of the aircraft."

    and what kind of interest in Algeria’s surface ships PLO is showing. I'm already happy


    Naval cooperation between Russia and Algeria is carried out in the field of shipbuilding, training specialists in the relevant field. One of the members of the Algerian naval delegation - the commander of the hydrographic unit, senior lieutenant Nesib Mohamed Laid, a graduate of the Peter the Great Marine Corps in 2013, met with joy with his classmate - senior lieutenant Pavel Kirilenko.


    =================================

    They still remember us - Mine clearance in Algeria (1962-1964)

    Miner N. Pyaskorsky discovered and destroyed more than 10 thousand mines, including more than 300 extremely dangerous jumping fragmentation mines. He was posthumously awarded the Order of the Red Banner.. In memory of the hero, students of the 341st secondary school in Moscow dedicated a song:

    From peaceful Russia
    Faraway Russia
    A soldier gathered on the road.
    Native birch trees spent it
    And mothers affectionate look.
    Algerian land
    He touched his hands
    He extracted death from the earth.
    But the echo of war flew through the fields
    The last echo of the war ...

    Algerian land
    In a farewell hug
    The soldier, dying, pressed ...
    Remember this

    Algerian brothers:

    Here, the son of Russia gave his life!
    Let the years go by
    But at a Moscow school

    The squad rises to the line:
    Becomes operational
    Together with them Pyaskorsky -
    Hero, Komsomol member, soldier!
  30. Vlad5307
    Vlad5307 7 January 2016 20: 10
    +1
    Quote: From Samara
    I remember how they returned MIG-29 to us ...

    The problem of such buyers is the lack of personnel who are willing to competently operate sophisticated modern equipment or the desire to save on this infrastructure. This is a disease for Indians as well, but on the other hand, our companies are not always ready to provide a service center! hi
  31. Evpatiy.
    Evpatiy. 7 January 2016 21: 26
    0
    Again, dill is good. Instead of "Bandera" some SU-32. Where is the isolation of Russia?
  32. jovanni
    jovanni 7 January 2016 22: 32
    +2
    Quote: makst83
    The Syrian company is starting to pay off! profit however!)


    In theory, it is not necessary to build gas pipelines with oil pipelines, but aircraft factories! It’s time we no longer pretend to be a world gas station, but again show our true face.
  33. Evgeniy667b
    Evgeniy667b 8 January 2016 08: 12
    +1
    At one time, many of our weapons were delivered to Iraq, Libya. But that did not save them. Saddam Hussein-hanged, Muammar Gaddafi died a martyrdom. In Algeria, the situation is tense with respect to ISIS, but as experience has shown. These weapons injections are effective when the Russian army is behind them, and not otherwise. What actually we see in Syria. And the usual supply for profit is only in the hands of the Americans.
    The ability of the RF Armed Forces to cover allies is very modest.
  34. polkovnik manuch
    polkovnik manuch 8 January 2016 12: 15
    +1
    I’m afraid that soon in Algeria it’s flaring up, it’s humbling adversaries. The purchase of our aircraft is a good thing, if only for the headstock and of course with a separate maintenance contract. We need to more actively rearm ourselves, at least twice as fast, the enemies at the gates.
  35. Aandrewsir
    Aandrewsir 8 January 2016 13: 41
    +1
    Well, of course, why not buy a car with excellent performance from a reliable partner !?
  36. pilot bin-bom
    pilot bin-bom 8 January 2016 16: 59
    +3
    And I wanted to be happy for the brothers of the Slavs. Well, they sell equipment, they raise the country's prestige. new technologies. new workplaces.
    But there are doubts.
    Will Mrs. Elvira Sahipzadovna Nabiullina turn this all into a defeat, having driven all the profit from the contracts into US debt obligations and placing them in America. And their farmers and entrepreneurs, and the same military factories will take loans abroad and banks at high interest rates?
    And it can do it with one stroke of the pen - the National Bank is not accountable to the Russian government.
    1. Evgeniy667b
      Evgeniy667b 9 January 2016 07: 57
      0
      Pilot! Very true remark. Nabiullina, of course, but how many accounting tricks are inside the military-industrial complex itself !!! Oil fell in price, Gazprom in the future, work in domestic markets. So they seized on the sale of weapons. In Hell, to burn all these sellers and those who are trying for them !!!
  37. Faust
    Faust 8 January 2016 17: 13
    0
    There is a tendency that the dry "eats" Mig. Fighters leave the theater of operations. There is "Africanization" of the war, when only stupidly bombed.

    MiGs are bought for protection, and who was Algeria going to bomb?
  38. Lucy
    Lucy 8 January 2016 18: 06
    +1
    Those in the know Menadefense Resource , - what's this?
    I wonder what Algeria will pay for, also with cheap oil.
    The main thing is that they do not step on the rake, as with the Kursk MiG-29cmt.
  39. dima mzk
    dima mzk 8 January 2016 18: 48
    +1
    Su-32 is not the 34th let them buy better from us, for export it goes worse than the version! but they inspire fear)))
  40. Orionvit
    Orionvit 8 January 2016 20: 41
    0
    Quote: spy008
    Quote: seti
    But the main thing is that she stay us friendly. I don’t really want to arm the enemy.

    ... so I thought about it. God forbid the Merikos will arrange the "orange" there - everything would not have turned against Russia what

    Ukraine is not an indicator for you? It is very pleasing that after the Maidan, the level of patriotism in Russia has grown significantly. So here in Ukraine, many victims were not in vain.
  41. Orionvit
    Orionvit 8 January 2016 20: 51
    +1
    Quote: Andrew Y.
    Quote: Tusv
    adversity is no easier.

    why not finally switch to Old Slavic? zadolbali definitions "pin..tana", such as: a thief, an adversary ... for solidity or what? why the hell to pretend to be "old warriors" like: "don't shut up, let me come ..." and almost through a comment ... just say: the enemy is not destiny?

    Andrey Yuryevich, excuse me, what is ten years old? For example, I was brought up on the tales of A.S. Pushkin, and on folk tales, and on the tales of other Russian writers. And mother used to read old epics to me when I was little. Maybe you are not Russian, but for me it’s normal, excellent, magnificent RUSSIAN LANGUAGE.
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  43. Vivan
    Vivan 9 January 2016 02: 00
    +1
    The media in Vietnam reported that after Algeria, Vietnam may become the second buyer of the Su-34.
  44. marder4
    marder4 9 January 2016 10: 57
    +1
    34-ka became very popular after Syria