Ukrainophilia among Russians. Erosion of minds or a new fashion of protest?

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Sensational story about a student who allegedly committed suicide because of his pro-Ukrainian views, there is only the latest example of the state in which our society turned out to be. Suddenly, we discovered that there are a huge number of people living next to us who, being Russian by passport and by blood, in fact have long been a soul on the other side. And this is not about the owners of yachts and offshore accounts and not about the activists of the liberal party - everything is clear with these, but about simple hard workers, housewives, students of universities and technical schools, office workers and others. In a word, those whom we meet on the streets every day. Many among them are representatives of subcultures.



Almost all of these volunteers were never Ukrainian citizens, but militants from the most brutal groups would envy their zeal. Most are limited to Russophobic posts in social networks, the more embittered go from words to deeds, and the most radical go to fight in the volunteer battalions of Ukraine. Of course, there is no justification for these people, but it is definitely worth understanding the cause of what is happening.

Xenopatriotism as a phenomenon was, is and always will be. Among a single number of Russian citizens, one can always find a certain number of fans of foreign cultures and foreign countries. True, there is one important point. For example, someone passionately loves Sweden, her lifestyle, economic achievements and rock culture. But such love at least has a reasonable explanation - many people like “rich and successful”, and both people and countries whose mass culture is actively developing, while in the Russian Federation gerontocracy reigns - in music and in cinema. Only, Ukraine can hardly be referred to as “rich and successful”, not to mention an attractive popular culture, which is simply not there. For a number of objective reasons, this country should have for the Russians not even zero, but negative attractiveness. But no…

The most amazing thing is that the official propaganda of the Russian Federation is to blame for the current situation. The absurd wording about the fraternal people (which, if you look at it, ceased to be so long before 1991), which was hammered into the head for decades, was so ingrained in the immature minds that many did not notice that there was no longer any fraternal people, but there was a hostile aggressive mode. Of all the countries with which Russia borders, the leadership of Ukraine alone declares that it is ready to fight with the Russian Federation to the end. Thus, the propaganda of “internationalism”, “tolerance” and cosmopolitanism played a cruel joke with the leadership of the Russian Federation - and Kiev, which is significant, without any special efforts, received a unique resource. Immediately I recall the monstrous failure of the Soviet propaganda, which the whole 1941 had been convincing the Red Army for a year, that, say, the German workers were against Hitler. In fact, it was the German worker who was the most motivated soldier and the most cruel punisher.

And what do we, these people say, that big Russian officials and oligarchs are the biggest fans of Miami, London, New York, Switzerland and the Maldives. And we are helping fraternal Ukraine, with which we have, as President Vladimir Putin said, many connections. And why can't she help, they will say? After all, we are not in a state of war with Ukraine, and President Putin is shaking hands with President Poroshenko. Why can state officials of the Russian Federation express sympathies to Ukraine, and when simple some do the same, they are considered extremists?

All arrived! It must be honestly said that many of our fellow citizens have lost their sense of national identification, and this is almost a catastrophe. The state and a significant part of society have lost their orientation and binding threads. Fragmentation has begun. Yes, in the Great Patriotic War, too, many Soviet citizens collaborated with the Germans, but 90% of them either were very offended by the Soviet authorities, or thus tried to survive in a banal way. There were only a few Germanophiles who, at the call of their hearts, went to the service of the Reich.

In our case, the situation is different. Tens of thousands of people across the country are ready, with varying degrees of activity, to help a hostile foreign state for free. From direct participation with weapons in the hands and sabotage before campaigning and work as informants. These are Russian people by birthplace, by blood and by citizenship, many of them have never been to Ukraine. Such a situation is a dream of any foreign intelligence service, and if Kiev were more skillful and organized, this fifth column (I am writing this definition without quotes) would have done a lot of mischief.

I will take the liberty to assert that the mass Ukrainophilia among Russians has become a type of social protest. Protest against stagnation, all sorts of prohibitions, the lack of social elevators and prospects. Here, by the way, it is appropriate to recall those Russians who are going to fight for ISIS. Decades of mess and cosmopolitanism have borne fruit. The ideological vacuum was filled, but not at all what the commanding fathers from the Forbes list of billionaires would like.

An extremely dangerous situation has developed, much more dangerous than the entire NATO bloc combined. Victory in any war does not begin at the design bureau or at the machine tools of enterprises. Victory begins with the mind. And there the defeat begins. France lost the war of Germany in 1940 not because it had few guns or tanks - she lost because the French did not want to fight. In our case, it is still sadder. Let's imagine a creepy, but quite possible picture: a young engineer in the afternoon engages in components for the Armata tank or a fifth-generation T-50 fighter, and in the evening he actively writes off with his friends from the public of the social network VKontakte Cyborgs. Donetsk airport. ”

It is necessary to change the system of education, someone will instructively say, having made a serious face for greater importance. Maybe it should. But will there be a lot of confusion from the frenzied agitation of a chubby figure for a holiday in the Crimea, if he himself likes to sunbathe exclusively on the beaches of Florida, California or Australia? Will the calls to buy domestic cars have any effect, when the “fathers of the nation” themselves at the highest level prefer exclusively the products of the German automotive industry?

It is clear that those who have already chosen their side in the conflict cannot be persuaded. People have already formed. But maybe someone should start to reconsider the television dogma, to keep still hesitant?
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  1. +32
    11 January 2016 06: 51
    Such "urkopatriots" must be calculated, then harshly, extremely harshly punished. Otherwise, there will be no success. Simply, in a word, a certain category does not understand. And such an opinion among Russian people arose only due to the lack of state ideology and lack of motivation. A gap in the brain, caused by the complete absence of any presence, filled with enemy propaganda.Classic of the genre. fellow
    1. +67
      11 January 2016 06: 58
      to revise television dogma WHAT DO WE LIKE ON A BOX? OR CRIMINALS OR COP-CRIMINALS. ALL ON NEW YEAR HOLIDAYS ON THE BOX ONE ONE CONTINUOUS Nonsense. MAY TIME DO NOT BE CONSIDERED AND REALLY DO am
      1. +50
        11 January 2016 07: 47
        Quote: tobacco
        AND WHAT DOES WE TURN ON THE BOX?

        All Christmas holidays on TNT, devilry - "battle of psychics" all day - is this really normal ??
        1. 0
          11 January 2016 09: 32
          Quote: afdjhbn67

          All Christmas holidays on TNT, devilry - "battle of psychics" all day - is this really normal ??

          It's strange to hear about devilry from a person with such an avatar. Or is magic not demonic? laughing
      2. +36
        11 January 2016 11: 54
        About the box: for these holidays, quantity somehow turned into quality. Previously, I simply did not like it, but this time people began to protest. On the main channels: old, shabby, boring faces for a long time, so ugly that it is no longer funny, never particularly talented, stupid jokes, voicelessness, antics ... Why? a variant that also managed to become a common place: people from "Voice". Yes, there those screened out at the blind auditions sing better than Kirkorov in his best years! How many, to talent, dazzling beauties and handsome men! But on New Year's Eve, all the same, tightly sucked stuck to the "Petrosyan" call. This sclerosis of culture, activity, business, something appeared too early in our young country. No daring, no risk, no career, even if you deserve it. In the localities - do not say a word to the authorities, bent into a ram's horn, without hope, and all your life you will receive what you are pleased to give. Traditions are rich, and no one thought to break. And here, next to, time! - and overthrew Nchalnik !!! We were not afraid !!! "We have no barriers ..." It's beautiful. People need the opportunity to achieve, and we are still drawn to the estate society, where there is no legal way out. Only to break. I - do not approve of the idiotic "Maidan", its ideas, the damned stupidity of the whole undertaking - but I well understand the motives of the "Maidanists" of the first convocation. Unfortunately, I understand. And we need to draw conclusions. Change the very structure of life. I just don’t know - it’s possible to do it without a buchi. This is the strength of the West, nothing else. Everything that has begun to turn to stone turns out to be in a landfill.
        Ps: personally, in my surroundings, I did not meet any Ukrainian absurdity among the Russians at the place of birth. But dissatisfied with stagnation and hopelessness - full.
        1. 0
          11 January 2016 17: 35
          In the West, the relationship between a man and a woman, which began to turn to stone, quickly ended up in a dump - they were replaced by homosexuality and lesbianism. Friendly relations were replaced by commodity - money (parents bill children, and friends bill each other for lunch). Instead of patriotism, they are trying - and successfully - to create a "citizen of the world" who roams the planet in search of work. Faith and traditional age-old relationships in the family are ridiculed and abolished - artificial matriarchy reigns everywhere, and the interests of the child are opposed to the interests of the family. Where is the good !? And you, comrade. Lieutenant Colonel, do you want to do this in Russia !? No, it's better with the "Gerons", even with them there is still more order ...
          1. -3
            11 January 2016 20: 46
            relations between men and women - they were replaced by homosexuality and lesbianism

            Are you probably a maximalist in your opinions?
            No one in the wild west has replaced normal relationships with homosexuality and lesbianism. The fact that it is present - so it is everywhere in the same quantity. The only thing is that in the West they tried to "legalize" this, so as not to torment people with unnecessary strains: since this is already present, so why deny it - apparently they have chosen this path.
            Further, you write that friendly relations have been replaced by commodity-money ones, where a guy and a girl pay in half in a cafe, and so on .. And what is actually bad about that if a girl perceives it normally? Nobody has to be like anyone else, the culture is like that. You have one culture, they have another. Nobody blames you for kissing on the lips, but for some African tribes this is a terrible act, you have to rub your nose there. In Islamic countries, polygamy is normal. And here - see "The White Sun of the Desert" - every woman has one husband, a man has one legal wife. But the fact of the matter is that there is only one legal one, but in fact everyone has everyone (well, I am exaggerating, of course, but wasn’t that even in the USSR and now ?!).
            The question of the interests of the child is actually a topical issue in any developed country and it is not worth speculating on it: the child must be protected. Are you against it? The child should be happy, smile. And if in a family he’s just afraid, forgot how to smile and sees only savagery, then, of course, the child is above the interests of such a family: he’d rather smile in the orphanage than howl, be beaten and afraid (of course, you know the level of some orphanages , but still).
            So why are you indignant? And why? What are people different from you? - so it's okay. That children can find protection from the arbitrariness of some "caring" parents? - Well, thank God. What are homosexuals? I do not share the views of sexual minorities, but since they exist - let them live as they like - they do not bother me in any way and their subculture does not concern me at all and nowhere; until I am forced to live like them - they are not a hindrance to me. but I do not make them love what is close to me. What's bad about it?
            By the way, family relations and family are an important component of Western society, even though you write the opposite. But in the post-Soviet countries, family institutions were destroyed and they were replaced by the ideas of the times of the hippie and sex revolution, which the wild west passed back in the 60-70s. And this will pass in our countries too. And no "wars" with homosexuals will help here: they were in Tsarist Russia and in the USSR, and they still exist. I don't like that either (their form of communication), but it's their choice. You are not forced. So why are you so worried about them?
            I see nothing wrong with other (Western) culture. It is somewhat different, but gives you the choice of many possibilities. And what to choose is your choice. It is worse when you have no choice and are dictated to you as "right". It's even worse when you silently agree. And worst of all, when you just say "is" without the alternative of saying "no." Something like this.

            And if about the article, then in the article a very good question was raised:
            Why can Russian state men express sympathy for Ukraine, and when some do the same, they are considered extremists?
            It seems like everyone can think, but not everyone, it turns out, is allowed? o Speak, express Your thoughts - I do not speak at all. It’s strange, isn't it ?!
            1. +1
              12 January 2016 02: 25
              Phew. The diarrhea is verbal. Homosexual.
              1. 0
                12 January 2016 23: 52
                Quote: visitork67
                Phew. The diarrhea is verbal. Homosexual.

                I understand that it doesn't matter to you what is written. You saw the word "homosexuality" and for you the meaning of the message has already been lost?
                The comment was not about homosexuals. But for you this is apparently difficult to understand.
            2. 0
              14 January 2016 14: 08
              Quote: Vohman
              And no "wars" with homosexuals will help here: they were in tsarist Russia, in the USSR, and now. I don't like it either (their form of communication), but this is their choice. You are not forced. So why are you so worried about them?



              The question is not about fagots and lesbians ... I see that you are at least a thinking person, and in many ways I agree with you, but, excuse me, this is not the issue! Problem (and this is precisely the problem) in their behavior. You are right THEY are and always have been, and most likely will be ... but why right now in Russia a bucha has risen against them? Have not you thought? I’ll tell you.
              1. I think that their "addiction behavior" is a kind of "disease". In any case, those who are "true", not at least "bi". Nature "senses" the non-normality of their DNA and thus tries to interrupt it.
              2. Plague, tuberculosis and much more is also a disease.
              3. Have you personally seen parades of tuberculosis or plague in cities? Especially with the promise that this is normal?
              4. I have 2 sons, 23 and 13 years old. And I want grandchildren. And these parades of mine are VERY STRONGLY troubling me ... (Praise be to GOD that the oldest has a GIRL, but after all there are extremely unhappy fathers who do not have this)!
              5. I’m not in favor of forcibly treating them, but why should this behavior be dragged out ?! In the USSR they were, there was an article (of the Criminal Code), but they were not particularly touched, tk. they lived, especially not advertising their "hobbies", and mind you, even at that time it did not bother ANYONE.
              6. Do not forget about the overpopulation of the Earth, no matter how it sounds "conspiratorial theory", about the attempts of THEIR in power to advertise (and it is ADVERTISING) of such relations. Legalizing these relationships. And this is, to an extreme degree, "religious", Western society! Which is just contrary to ANY religion! And lately they are already trying to push through zoophilia as a normal behavior. Now we have come close to pedophilia ... What's next?

              Therefore, if they say that this is normal, then I will fight, as I can, with this phenomenon and support the struggle of the state!
              I really hope that you understand what I’m talking about and what I’m not happy with ...
        2. +5
          11 January 2016 22: 03
          And I met a former colleague, everything as in the article. Such a Bandera frostbite became. But he lives in Russia. As for the financial situation, he does not live badly. In any case, last year I bought a jeep. Not cool, but still not begging. I thought it was an exception, but it turned out to be a trend. It is time to reflect on those in power.
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          1. +1
            11 January 2016 22: 33
            In fact, Ukraine is an "alternative Russia" - its pro-Western and liberal version - like Taiwan is an "alternative China"
            and at the same time it turns out, as it were, a "reservoir of ideas and people" like a seed, under favorable conditions, which can germinate and give quick shoots in Russia itself (or in China from Taiwan)

            Look, many Russian liberal politicians come and take part in the political life of Ukraine (or Russian-speaking - post-Soviet republics - Saakashvili Sobchak)

            Ukraine’s danger to Russia is not military - but ideological - in influencing the population and outgrowing the Maidan in Russia - and external opponents probably took this factor into account and hoped for it.

            This is not an interethnic conflict in fact (since they were essentially branches of the same people earlier), but rather an ideological one.
            Who is for the West - and who is for the East. Not surprising. that in Russia there is someone for the west - they have always been
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    3. +32
      11 January 2016 07: 47
      Quote: astronom1973n
      A gap in the brain caused by the complete absence of any presence is filled with the propaganda of the enemy. Classics of the genre

      And then all this translates into Maidan and devastation. Have we really been taught anything by 1991 and 1993? Do we want this?
      1. +30
        11 January 2016 08: 43
        Tens of thousands of people across the country are ready, with varying degrees of activity, to help a hostile foreign state for free. From direct participation with weapons in their hands and sabotage to campaigning and working as informants.

        It’s not in my head how this is possible: I, who have a sister in Ukraine, will never take their side, although my sister’s life is not indifferent to me. For me, the word homeland matters. But those who help a hostile state for free (and it is in fact hostile, whoever says anything) are not people, they are scum of our society for which the concept of Homeland does not exist. Therefore, I believe that we should get rid of such ballast so that at the crucial moment they do not shoot us in the back.
        1. +5
          11 January 2016 21: 56
          Quote: СРЦ П-15
          such ballast must be disposed of,

          Rolling ballast is no problem. Only then do the Black Sea crabs settle near the river port wall. It will not work with salutary rigor to solve the problem of the lack of ideas. The idea of ​​acquiring Chelsea FC will not replace it. Today on TV all the money "earned" by Rybolovlev is considered. How many lemons he lost in the apartment for his daughter and elsewhere. The most creative propagandist among the propagandists hired by the all-powerful State Department to destroy the Russian Federation could not do anything more poisonous than this transmission. And on TV all day about the doctor who was brought to death by bruises and about Rybolovlev's real estate. Well, more about the Crimea without electricity. Nothing changes. Zampolits, political instructors, and still - commissars. Where are you? Oooh! One hope for grandma Vanga, who predicted the victory of Russia and personal glory to Vladimir Vladimirovich.
      2. +22
        11 January 2016 08: 51
        The topic is correct. But the arguments are not enough - therefore, for many, the article seems not convincing or not at all clear. I give the author a plus ... and as you like, but I also raised the rating for Igor Kabardin - but this is an advance. Write to Igor, I support you.
        1. +11
          11 January 2016 09: 06
          Quote: Dembel 77
          But the arguments are not enough - therefore, for many, the article seems not convincing or not at all clear


          To answer the article, you need to ask yourself a question - do you personally know at least one such Ukrainophile? I, no, and my friends, relatives, acquaintances, also no. Where does the information about "tens of thousands" of similar ones come from?
          1. +3
            11 January 2016 09: 15
            Quote: Aleksander
            Aleksander (1) Today, 09:06 ↑ New
            Quote: Dembel 77
            But the arguments are not enough - therefore, for many, the article seems not convincing or not at all clear

            To answer the article, you need to ask yourself a question - do you personally know at least one such Ukrainophile? I, no, and my friends, relatives, acquaintances, also no. Where does the information about "tens of thousands" of similar ones come from?

            Your position is not clear, please explain why you need to know everyone personally. You can judge by his affairs, which can be found in the media. I personally don’t know our president either, but the fact that he is doing a useful job for Russia is obvious. Or am I wrong?
            1. +7
              11 January 2016 09: 23
              I agree with you and with the previous one. Personally, I do not know such people in my surroundings. Probably the author is right, the problem exists. But, every reader tries on first of all on himself. And on pro-Ukrainian rallies in Moscow. As far as I remember, such rallies gathered about 5 thousand people. Is it all over Moscow?
              1. +2
                11 January 2016 11: 54
                Quote: alexej123
                I agree with you and with the previous one. Personally, I do not know such people in my surroundings. Probably the author is right, the problem exists. But, every reader tries on first of all on himself. And on pro-Ukrainian rallies in Moscow. As far as I remember, such rallies gathered about 5 thousand people. Is it all over Moscow?

                I already wrote about this, such people appear more and more often, and not only pro-Ukrainian, but also simply, amateurs of mankind.
                Yesterday I went to mailra - and there, in my world (which I don’t use) immediately three offers of friendship and everything from the Ukrainians - a coincidence? :)
                The article is, in general, robust, and the minuses snapped a bunch.
                1. +5
                  11 January 2016 17: 41
                  The article, I think, picked up "minuses" for one simple reason: it does not matter what the author wanted to say, it is important that this article, joyfully reprinted from this site by both "ukrami", and liberals, and other enemies of Russia, will be played out as anti-Russian map, as proof that a large (allegedly) number of people in Russia actively support the "Ukrainian revolution". Although the problem is, to put it mildly, exaggerated ...
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            3. +3
              11 January 2016 13: 49
              Quote: Dembel 77
              Your position is not clear, please explain why you need to know everyone personally


              Any situation is tried on, first of all, on oneself. But I have never met such Ukrainophiles (pah-pah-pah!)
          2. +4
            11 January 2016 09: 23
            Quote: Aleksander
            Where does the information about "tens of thousands" of similar ones come from?



            So I involuntarily thought ... Something such does not occur ... Or is it again a sample of the type from the Levada Center survey ???

            Akhedzhakova, Makarevich and Basilashvili are far from tens and hundreds of thousands ...
            1. +12
              11 January 2016 09: 29
              Liberal Peace March in Moscow. And this is only in Moscow, and even then not all liberals came out. So yes, tens of thousands at least.

              True, most of them are only capable of writing in social networks.
              1. +9
                11 January 2016 13: 59
                Quote: Kibalchish
                So yes, at least tens of thousands.


                You may notice that Ukrainians (with a passport) in only one Moscow-more than half a millionso two to three tens of thousands per march of scoundrels- in many ways they are. Well, plus the city lunatics, plus the pale-gondons, but they are a minority. The question is why the law enforcement agencies did not kick these "rebels" out of the country ...
                1. +3
                  11 January 2016 16: 40
                  Quote: Aleksander
                  why the law enforcement agencies of these "rebels" were not thrown out of the country ...

                  It means that someone creates and maintains such a kind of "reserve of the main command". Someone needs it. The question is who, why and when.
              2. 0
                11 January 2016 22: 31
                https://youtu.be/h1C1B1F0tB4
            2. +3
              11 January 2016 09: 33
              If someone does not understand what the word means - xenopathyotism, read it - you will not regret it:
              http://sverc.livejournal.com/231888.html
              Just five minutes and come back by other people.
              1. +4
                11 January 2016 12: 15
                Quote: Dembel 77
                If someone does not understand what the word means - xenopathriotismread - you will not regret it:
                http://sverc.livejournal.com/231888.htmlВсего пять минут и вернётесь назад другими людьми.



                Hmm ... Rough and short - this is "love for someone else's homeland" ...

                Only in my old age I don’t understand in any way why I should love someone else’s homeland ... I can both love and scold my government and president, but the Motherland and, let's say so, the state are somewhat different concepts ...

                Then the question arises - who are these people who love someone else’s homeland?

                If you noticed, I write the word "Motherland" with both a capital and a small letter ... Because one word can contain slightly different meanings ...
                1. +4
                  11 January 2016 13: 07
                  Well, for me, there is only one homeland. And not to love her is the same unnatural feeling as not to love life.
            3. +3
              11 January 2016 09: 34
              Quote: veksha50
              Something does not occur such ...

              Greetings George! Also noticed the obvious provocation of the article. And although I like his (Kabardin) articles, this one is a clear stuffing. hi
              1. +2
                11 January 2016 12: 30
                Quote: Ingvar 72
                Greetings George! Also noticed the obvious provocation of the article. And although I like his (Kabardin) articles, this one is a clear stuffing.

                Then I'll "throw in" more, especially to you, the fraternal people.

                Threat - while writing - and the article came out ..
                1. +3
                  11 January 2016 15: 29
                  Quote: lelikas
                  Then I'll "throw in" more, especially to you, the fraternal people.

                  Lech, the presence of freaks in Ukraine, no one denies. We have enough of them. But the bulk are still normal Russian people. Drugged by propaganda. Look deeper - ethnically the Ukrainian government is not Ukrainian.
            4. +7
              11 January 2016 21: 24
              Quote: veksha50
              So I involuntarily thought ... Something such does not occur ... Or is it again a sample of the type from the Levada Center survey ???

              Akhedzhakova, Makarevich and Basilashvili are far from tens and hundreds of thousands ...


              I already wrote and will repeat it again! Igor Kabardin is either not a smart cheerleader (which is unlikely), or a sent Cossack (which is more likely)! I have been reading his articles for a long time specifically in order to be convinced of my opinion about him and his activities! With each of his articles, I am more and more convinced that this "Cossack" disguising himself, and quite successfully as a patriot, is in fact a provocateur!

              Article is not worth a damn! An example is taken of Moscow, where there really are a lot of Ukrainians, liberals, white puppies and other rabble, ready to carry the flags of at least Satan, if only they would be noticed and preferably encouraged! But Moscow, this is far from Russia, come to our periphery and find at least a hundred of these ... (according to Lavrov) unique ones with ukroflags ...!

              As for the Ukrainians themselves, yes, they live in a state hostile to us, yes, the majority fell under anti-Russian propaganda, yes, a generation of Bandera geeks was brought up there, but there are sensible people there too and they need to be supported because they have the future of Ukraine, if true they will have it, this is the future!

              I REPEAT - IGOR KABARDIN, THIS IS A PROVOCATOR AND TRAITOR!
              1. 0
                12 January 2016 03: 12
                Ukrainian Ukrainians-Bandera-this is understandable, but what about the Russians in Ukraine, who are in the units of the "Right Sector"? Actively participating in the ATO, in the destruction of the Russian civilian population?
          3. +14
            11 January 2016 10: 22
            I know two. One is my former friend and classmate ... Nothing of the kind was ever noticed for him, but as soon as in Ukraine what began, he first began to condemn the policy of Russia, then openly echo the delirium of dill, and as a result, when almost everything was with him stopped communicating - installed a sign "arbayt maht fry" on my desktop ... I still cannot understand what it is and how this is possible. I naturally broke off my relationship with this geek, but questions still remain ..

            The second is a random interlocutor who began to actively prove that Boeing in Ukraine was shot down by Russia and that NATO is a bastion of democracy and a role model. Well, we naturally started the war.

            Something like that. There are these geeks and I don’t think there are few of them.
            1. +6
              11 January 2016 14: 08
              In my life I met more people, not pro-Ukrainians, but rather "why should I suffer because of our policy in Ukraine" and "I do not want these Ukrainians to be fed at my expense." Those. such a purely selfish position. There was one acquaintance who did not approve of "Crimea is ours", but only until a complete mess began in Ukraine. Most of my friends either support our state policy towards Ukraine, or consider it not radical enough.
              1. +2
                11 January 2016 16: 44
                Quote: vvv-73
                our state policy towards Ukraine

                The only bad thing is that this, if I may say so, "policy" basically boils down to the thesis "we will wait until it dissolves itself."
            2. +3
              12 January 2016 03: 17
              Most likely they are not geeks, but simply "joke", they think that IT is fashionable now. Alas, the bad example of Makarevich and others like him serves as a bad example for many ...
          4. +5
            11 January 2016 10: 52
            There are such. I communicate and gently clarify the situation to them. The first impression is that they live in a different dimension. But gradually straightened. The author is right. A PLUS.
          5. 0
            11 January 2016 19: 44
            [quote = Aleksander] [quote = Dembel77] Where does the information about "tens of thousands" of similar ones come from? [/ quote]

            Of course, the author did not conduct research, but if you recall how many characters with ukrofamily are in the Russian Federation in government at various levels, in the media, among leaders, then the author may still be modest.
          6. +1
            11 January 2016 22: 08
            There are they, I already wrote how I met a former colleague as Svidomo as once from the Maidan, and yet the Russian was not in Ukraine either.
          7. 0
            11 January 2016 22: 08
            There are they, I already wrote how I met a former colleague as Svidomo as once from the Maidan, and yet the Russian was not in Ukraine either.
          8. +1
            12 January 2016 16: 49
            I can give the address "VKontakte" of an excellent young writer, Siberian ... Ardent ukroinofila. Even more can be said - an ardent banderlogophile.
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      3. 0
        11 January 2016 20: 17
        There is a sensible article about this "The Enthusiastic - Destroyers of Empires ..."
        http://is.gd/qkcg6G
    4. +11
      11 January 2016 09: 29
      on what basis to punish. maybe the leadership needs to figure it out in their brains. Ukrainian people feel sorry for him. he gave gas to the Kherson region. humanitarian action. rave. Gazprom "our wealth", only we pay for it. holokal does not flesh. it would be better if pensioners were exempted from paying for gas and electricity.
      it’s good to be a benefactor at someone else’s expense.
      our president is not bad, but sometimes he has a brain dislocation.
    5. +10
      11 January 2016 11: 27
      Ukropatrioty No. 1 and No. 2 - Sberbank and VTB, swell government money
      into the economy of Ukraine, despite the fact that they do not open their branches in Crimea. Who is behind this, not top management? Here
      therefore, they go to fight for ISIS and ukronatsi, completely propagandized and, sober in justice
      Homeland, trying to find justice in German.
    6. RDX
      -3
      11 January 2016 12: 49
      All grunts, per 1001 kilometers
    7. +2
      11 January 2016 14: 52
      the separation process has begun ... this is inevitable. SMERSH was a useful invention
    8. +1
      11 January 2016 16: 10
      Igor Kabardin and Co. need to travel around Russia and see what REALLY excites ordinary people in Russia and then he will understand that the articles he writes DO NOT find response from ordinary people, because they are far from being fools, as this (maybe) one wants all this liberal party, so this opus is NOTHING except nausea! In multimillion Russia, Kabardin counted tens of thousands of Ukrainophiles? Where? In Krasnoyarsk, Barnaul, Saratov, Norilsk, Chelyabinsk, etc.? Such as Kabardin, with their painstaking work, only strengthen patriotism among the Russians, for through cunning and roguery it comes from his article.
      1. +3
        11 January 2016 16: 48
        Quote: Cubano405
        Where?

        In Moscow.
        In the outback, this "metropolitan trend" is not held in high esteem. But in the Moscow-bad, all the creaklovaya rot is concentrated.
        1. +1
          11 January 2016 20: 51
          Cubano405 ... Such as Kabardin with their painstaking work only strengthen the patriotism of the Russians ...
          Then you need to reward the person, not scold. After all, he does a good job - strengthens patriotism!
      2. 0
        25 January 2016 20: 42
        You're not right. Even in Siberia, this Bandera ram is enough. How many times there have been cases of desecration of monuments in Novosibirsk, Krasnoyarsk. Banderlogs obviously laid nails under my wheels for my wife when the moisture of New Russia developed on a car. So, the author is right these are not isolated cases, unfortunately. Sam from Siberia, the Brazilian flag, as on a ship in a voyage.
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  3. +4
    11 January 2016 07: 12
    Strange article. It is not clear what. Mildly dogged liberals? So soft, so as not to scare .... Maybe I’m wrong. But the feeling is just that.
    1. +8
      11 January 2016 07: 54
      Quote: meriem1
      Strange article. It is not clear what. Mildly dogged liberals?

      Indeed, Ukrainophilia (it reminds me of necrophilia in some way) is justified by some internal social problems, rather than problems in the head of a single moron. Even before the heap of Russians in ISIS, he dragged on - this is generally an extraordinary level of argumentation.
      during the day, the young engineer deals with components for the Armata tank or the fifth generation T-50 fighter, and in the evening he is actively writing off with his friends from the public of the social network VKontakte Cyborgs. Donetsk airport. ”

      But for this, dear Mr. Kabardin, there are competent comrades who work with secret carriers.
      1. +5
        11 January 2016 10: 48
        I would like to speak about "problems in the head of a single idiot (Ami du peuple)".
        It may be time to realize that most of the people mentioned in this article are not against Russia, but against the "system" in which OUR POWER makes the Serdyukovs and others like them deliberately inviolable. Systems for which the LAWS are not written, which "row for themselves" with impunity and do not care about all the problems of the country.
        Why are these "" on the side of Ukraine? Everyone has their own reasons, BUT, maybe it's time to get your head out of the sand and look around? Shake off the Kiselyov "noodles" from the ears and realize that in addition to the small SS units paid for by the West, on the Maidan there were mainly ordinary citizens of Ukraine, and not for lace panties and a visa-free regime as we "sing" from the screens, but against the same "system" built in Ukraine by Yanukovych. Our government itself creates such "idiots" at the same time misinterpreting the events of the Maidan and covering up corrupt officials of the highest level, leaving open mediocrities in key places only because there was such an agreement. Or does everyone sitting here enjoy the work of our government? You can write as many platitudes as you like, "we will tear everyone up, bast shoes under the bench" in order to snatch + from the same "urakryaks", but you cannot run away from yourself - it was our government, headed by the irreplaceable one, that led our country to that the hole in which we are now. It is with this state of affairs that the people whom Ami du peuple called "morons" do not agree.
        1. +5
          11 January 2016 11: 23
          Quote: In search
          it is our government, led by the irremovable, that has led our country to the pit in which we are now located for 15 years. It’s with this state of things that people don’t agree, whom Ami du peuple called "assholes".

          And I’ll call you again. What the Maidan, organized by such citizens, leads to, we now clearly see on the example of Ukraine close to us. Or on the example of distant Libya.
          There were "ordinary citizens of Ukraine and not for lace panties and a visa-free regime as we are" singing "from the screens, but against the same "system" built in Ukraine by Yanukovych"And? To what extent? Already the Americans admit that corruption in Ukraine has only increased. And these" simple Ukrainian "rams have only achieved the redistribution of state property by oligarchs. The Dnipropetrovsk clan replaced the" Donetsk "ones, that's all. You think Russia will to another?
          1. 0
            11 January 2016 11: 44
            Do you think it will be different in Russia?
            Our world has now become very difficult for the average man, but it’s easier for those who rule, thanks to technology and science, they began to manage people differently. The world order has also changed since the collapse of the USSR. I would say that people were still free before the collapse of the USSR, and now they are just slaves, but this is not the end. Therefore, today you can’t get off with changes in the country. The whole world is different today. Therefore, in Russia, if there are unrest, then they will be more manageable, which means they are almost predictable, only the question is who is controlled and predictable.
            I am for the USSR.
            1. +5
              11 January 2016 11: 57
              Quote: Ermak
              I am for the USSR.

              So do I, too, comrade. But this requires not stupid standing and bleating on the Maidan, paid for by someone unknown (more precisely, whose money) with the slogans "We are for everything good, against everything bad," but a truly popular revolution - that is, a change in the socio-political formation. Preferably, carried out in a non-violent parliamentary way. And not, like the Ukrainian, putsch of some capitalists against others.
              1. 0
                11 January 2016 12: 12
                A difficult path was traveled to the creation of the USSR, these were big sacrifices. All this was launched in several negative Gorbachev years, primarily in the minds of citizens. The longing of these years and constant calls have done their job.
                But this USSR was not just a country, it was a social society at the heart of which, I would say, whose ideal was justice. And if today it is possible to build such a society peacefully without the sacrifices that were during the civil war and generally during that period, then Putin will need to erect monuments (without sarcasm), he will be the greatest ruler in Russia. Well, if it’s not Putin then who? It is unlikely that this movement will receive power just like that (more precisely, who will give it to him), only for its goals.
          2. 0
            11 January 2016 12: 35
            I do not call for the Maidan, for as in Ukraine, they will immediately try to be led by the Department of State’s puppets. I only advocate that everyone who does not accept the situation in our country would not be scratched under one comb, ranked as the 5th column.
            The Ukrainians were unlucky, their dreams of a non-corrupt government, fair courts, a decent life were skillfully used by America, which, using NLP methods, repeatedly worked out in color revolutions around the world, achieved their goal. First, in 23 years, the consciousness of Ukrainians was reformatted with the help of the "Overton Windows" system, and now the government was replaced by a pro-American one. I would like to know where our "government agencies" were looking all this time and why they allowed such a situation. And to do "urakryatsvom" - to hide your head in the sand, trying to isolate yourself from problems.
            1. 0
              11 January 2016 13: 09
              Quote: In search
              where all this time our "government agencies" were looking and why they allowed such a situation.

              Our, "state bodies", as you have deigned to put it, at this time were engaged in other, more pressing problems. In particular, the prevention of the collapse of the state - such a danger in the late 90s - early 2000s was very real. Honor and praise to them that they did not allow such a development of events.
              Quote: In search
              Ukrainians were unlucky, their dreams of a non-corrupt government, honest courts, a decent life were skillfully used by America

              And in our reality, who will "skillfully use" such dreams? The State of Vanuatu?
              Quote: In search
              And to do "urakryatsvom" - to hide your head in the sand, trying to isolate yourself from problems.

              I am not engaged in any "urakryatsvom". But I really don't see, as of today, an unbiased force in the Russian politicum capable of changing something. Well, except for Putin himself, of course, as comrade Yermak rightly noted above.
              What are you offering yourself? Or do you prefer to engage in empty air shake?
              1. 0
                11 January 2016 13: 26
                1. "Preventing the collapse of the state" - the work of internal "bodies", and asked the situation in Ukraine "external".
                2. "And in our reality, who will such dreams be" skillfully used "by the State of Vanuatu?"
                What are you talking about? After all, I wrote that I did not call for the Maidan, because, as in Ukraine, the directorates of the State Department would immediately try to head it.
                3. In this case, "urakryakstvo" is to enroll in the 5th column all those who do not agree with the current situation in the country.
                1. +2
                  11 January 2016 13: 55
                  Quote: In search
                  "Preventing the collapse of the state" - the work of internal "bodies", and asked the situation in Ukraine "external"

                  You have several misconceptions about the work of the special services. "External" also work for the internal security of the state, including in order to prevent foreign influence inside the country.
                  Ukraine, on the other hand, was considered to be too close a state to Russia to pay its special attention to it - and so it will not go anywhere from our orbit. Therefore, limited to financial and economic issues, but missed the ideological moment. But who thought that Ukrainians, in the majority, are such morons?
                  Although, if they asked me, I would tell them about "Ukrainianship" and its danger - nevertheless I was born and lived in the Ukrainian SSR, so I understand the local mentality perfectly smile
                  1. +1
                    11 January 2016 16: 56
                    A bunch of mistakes and miscalculations of our "bodies" when interacting with Ukraine led to the fact that instead of cooperation, the use of the industrial and scientific potential of the two countries, and successful development, we now have a heap of problems and a herd of utter imbeciles at our side, who hate Russians to gnash their teeth and ready to even substitute a point to anyone who can shit the Russian Federation harder.
                    1. 0
                      11 January 2016 22: 15
                      Quote: In search
                      we have

                      You need to be more modest. Is your problem really Abramovich equal? He has a plant out there - he counted on the supply of slabs from Ukraine. And Kalomoisky’s friend was not a friend ... I’m surely have nothing from this canoe, except for the mother-in-law who was hardly taken out. And probably a lot of it was pinched off the budget. Although I’m not rolling my lip very much, they will not index the pension until inflation ...
                    2. 0
                      11 January 2016 23: 20
                      Quote: In search
                      A bunch of mistakes and miscalculations of our "bodies" when interacting with Ukraine led to the fact that instead of cooperation, the use of the industrial and scientific potential of the two countries, and successful development, we now have a heap of problems and a herd of utter imbeciles at our side, who hate Russians to gnash their teeth and ready to even substitute a point to anyone who can shit the Russian Federation harder.

                      What kind of interaction with Ukraine are you talking about? In 1991, Kravchuk announced a categorical refusal of Kiev to give his consent to the union political and economic agreement, in 1992 Kievpup refused to sign the collective security treaty of the CIS states, then Kievpup did not sign an agreement on the formation of an interstate economic committee, then they refused membership in the CIS, then with the orange, they headed west. What kind of interaction ...
        2. +1
          11 January 2016 14: 28
          Quote: In search
          BUT, maybe it's time to get your head out of the sand and look around? To shake off the Kiselevskaya "noodles" from the ears and realize that in addition to the small SS units paid for by the West, on the Maidan there were mainly ordinary citizens of Ukraine, and not for lace panties and a visa-free regime, as we are "singing" from the screens, but against the same "system"built in Ukraine by Yanukovych.


          All-brightened, imbued, shed a tear and threw off the "noodles". Yes But one ma-a-ah-little question is that, SYSTEM-disappeared after standing these ...? Or it became only worse? And then who are those who stood on the muydan, if not WORD OF URKI (albeit the most blessed ones) who destroyed their own, albeit imperfect, but much more humane country than today ?!
          And people following the course of these same pri-durks cause very big doubts regarding their adequacy. Fighting an "unjust" system does not mean fighting your country-this is dangerous for the country and these people, respectively. dangerous. In society, they should be condemned, in case of violation of the Criminal Code-punished-to protect the society itself (and themselves).
          1. -2
            11 January 2016 15: 10
            Illiterate or what? Or the meaning of what you read "did not reach"? It really got worse, but not because the people who stood on the Maidan wanted so much, but because those in power who were in power nailed them in their good intentions. Are you able to realize the difference? and for the future - so as not to "watery" noodles initially on your ears do not hang.
            1. 0
              11 January 2016 15: 30
              Quote: In search
              Illiterate or what? Or did the meaning of what you read "did not reach"? It really got worse, but not because the people who stood on the Maidan wanted so much, but because the powers that be, in their good intentions, did it.


              Yeah. When "searches" do not know how to express their thoughts and do not know how to read what is written.

              It became worse precisely because these people (they are idiots) stood there. And do not give a damn about what they wanted and what thoughts were crowded into their enthusiastic dumbasses, the main thing is to what this led... And the fact that it will only get worse-knew all more or less educated people and examples of this, hundreds. Any revolution of "nasty" (or something else) is, first of all, destruction, collapse, violence and impoverishment... And it does not matter what the people who perform it wanted (albeit very, very good), but they are dangerous, because they destroy the lives of other citizens and the country with their nonsense. By the way, who gave them the mandate to speak from ALL-Donbass clearly did not agree, as did the Crimea and many more ... "Covered with good wishes ....."
              1. -4
                11 January 2016 15: 50
                1. Nobody bothered everyone else to come and express their opposition to the Maidan. If you do not want to reap the benefits.
                2. "Any revolution of" nasty "is, first of all, destruction, collapse, violence and impoverishment", that is, in your opinion, something very bad.
                I correctly understood your thought - if you (society) are "in the dupu", then the main thing, in your opinion, is not to resist, so that something worse does not work out?
                1. 0
                  11 January 2016 16: 35
                  Quote: In search
                  I correctly understood your thought - if you (society) are "in the dupu", then the main thing, in your opinion, is not to resist, so that something worse does not work out?

                  Resist who's stopping you? But, in the end, get into the hole not half a bump, but for the very tomatoes.
                  "Square (aka Maidan) democracy" leads exactly to such results.
                  Once again I ask, what are you proposing if the current government categorically does not suit you? I expressed my point of view, but you, Vladislav? I will listen with pleasure ..
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                  2. +2
                    11 January 2016 17: 17
                    You are misinterpreting dear. Where did I say that the current government does not suit me CATEGORALLY? Our conversation began with the fact that we have different approaches to the concept of "5th column" and I explained that not all those who disagree with the current policy of the party should be counted among it. Personally, I disagree with how our government is building the country's economy. What to do? At least carry your carcass to the elections and vote against this government.
                    1. -1
                      11 January 2016 17: 48
                      Quote: In search
                      Our conversation began with the fact that we have different approaches to the concept of "5 column" and I explained that not all those who disagree with the current policy of the party should be included in it

                      And such a term as "5th column" did not use at all. Or do you think that the word "pridu.rki" is identical to the phrase "fifth column"?
                      As for the elections - I completely agree. This is at least some legitimate chance to influence the domestic policy of the state.
                      1. +1
                        11 January 2016 17: 57
                        The term "5th column" sounded in the article. Yes, I thought that the "idiots" described by you you attributed to the 5th column. That we are in trouble with the economy apparently agree?
                        Then it remains to clarify "who is to blame"?
                2. 0
                  11 January 2016 21: 40
                  [
                  Quote: In search
                  1. Nobody bothered everyone else to come and express their opposition to the Maidan. If you do not want to reap the benefits.


                  No, they didn’t interfere, yes. KILLED-in the Mariinsky Park, near Korsun-a lot of people, but your beloved ukroitskaya power - "does not notice."
                  Quote: In search
                  correctly understood your idea - if you (society) are "in the dupu", then the main thing, in your opinion, is not to resist, so that something worse does not work out?

                  If you already have a doupe to resist late, you need to relax, but before that, the Pande didn’t. It only came NOW — after the victory of filth — and the people, having relaxed, get quite deserved "pleasure.
                  By the way, as for lovers of eurotrucks, there were at least 50% of them, I say as a connoisseur of Maidans with 2009 (true, Moldavian, but the difference, judging by my Kiev sisters and brothers, is small)
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            2. 0
              11 January 2016 22: 17
              Quote: In search
              power holders

              Dear, behave yourself. Words in the lexicon are over, do you invent neologisms?
        3. 0
          11 January 2016 21: 13
          It may be time to realize that most of the people mentioned in this article are not against Russia, but against the "system" in which OUR POWER makes the Serdyukovs and others like them deliberately inviolable. Systems for which the LAWS are not written, which "row for themselves" with impunity and do not care about all the problems of the country.


          Ibi potest valere populus, ubi leges valent
      2. +2
        11 January 2016 10: 54
        This article is simply a poor message, certainly not about traitors in Russia, but that we Russians hate too few Ukrainians, so to speak, not enough. The author wants this very (and not only him). Therefore, the parallels of the most negative dragged. But it’s not the Russian author that’s for sure, and I didn’t see Gogol or read it, but it’s not him, and people don’t know that for Russian Ukraine, Little Russia and Ukrainians are Russian (the sick, of course, just forget history and generally allow them to be deceived). And he is always fair, merciful and patient to a Russian person. Therefore, the Russian can not hate. Therefore, it suffers, for the time being. So, that I saw your author. But I will not rejoice for hatred.
        Yes and no so much in Russia sympathizing with delirium what is happening in Ukraine
        And traitors, then they should always be punished. Especially glad for the mythical dill (the ancient Ukrainian - this is nonsense, who ate it and did not choke) to the detriment of our homeland Russia.
      3. 0
        11 January 2016 16: 51
        Quote: Ami du peuple
        competent comrades exist

        The author is apparently young enough to know what "employees of the first department" are ...
    2. +1
      11 January 2016 08: 44
      Strange article.
      I agree ... The author is too thick paint. What for? Personally, in my environment there are no people sympathetic to Ukrainians. And I only learn about these from the media. Why does the author give us this rubbish in the brain?
    3. -1
      11 January 2016 09: 43
      Quote: meriem1
      Mildly dogged liberals?

      Quite right. Exactly they. Only the author "works in velvet gloves", hiding behind "lack of patriotism" and even "social injustice."
  4. -3
    11 January 2016 07: 15
    Kabardin, as always, burns, he has the most expensive articles along the way, pushes Russia and Ukraine between his foreheads
    1. +8
      11 January 2016 08: 42
      Quote: Elektrik
      Kabardin, as always, burns, he has the most expensive articles along the way, pushes Russia and Ukraine between his foreheads

      But nothing that Russia and Ukraine have already been pushed against their foreheads two years ago? And the conflict over time only deepens and expands.
      Kabardin is a very controversial author with controversial arguments, but believe me, he is not the reason for the discord in Russian-Ukrainian relations.
  5. +4
    11 January 2016 07: 21
    Tens of thousands of people across the country are ready, with varying degrees of activity, to help a hostile foreign state for free

    In my opinion, the author greatly exaggerates the number of those who are ready somehow, including with arms in hand, to "help" Ukraine. If in our country tens of thousands are ready to ride for the sake of some incomprehensible idea based on hatred of Russia, it is surprising that such "dancing" on blood has not yet begun. If we discard those whom the author has listed ("liberals", part of the owners of big capital), then there will remain a small part of young people who, with the stubbornness of youthful maximalism, are ready to do something just against everyone, primarily the authorities.
    1. +2
      11 January 2016 07: 44
      I also got the strange impression that it was overwhelmed. If only the author is not an employee of the "authorities" "who know everything", then where did he get the information that there are ... so many of them that they pose a danger and bells must be struck? He that has the ability to monitor all networks, day and night, sits in them and calculates ukrolubov? People who choose the form of protest to praise a foreign country and foreign culture have always been - he writes about it himself. The DEGREE of "protest" is important. And how did he define it? All of us, I mean the VO website visitors, also live in Russia. Who else was struck by what the author notes? I didn’t rush, although I work with young people and know quite well what they breathe. Why do we again need some unnamed specifically "they" and ... fight with them? We have a lot of them - "they" have ruined everything, sold, deceived, and specifically to name them - there will not be even a dozen names. And this has been going on since the end of the 20s. May be enough?!
      1. +2
        11 January 2016 07: 57
        Quote: kalibr
        Does he have the ability to monitor all networks, sits in them day and night and calculates ukrolyubov?

        Why calculate if each group already indicates the number of participants
        1. 0
          11 January 2016 08: 40
          And the number of supporters of Ukraine is also indicated?
      2. 0
        11 January 2016 08: 49
        But I’m wondering who stubbornly minus the posts of those who disagree with the author of this worthless and custom-made article?
    2. +10
      11 January 2016 08: 06
      The author is not exaggerating. In support of Ukraine, first of all, the so-called. The "fifth column" is a stable opposition to the current government in general and to Putin personally in particular. How many are there? Yes, 10 percent in varying degrees of urgency. And this, not a lot, not a little, 14 million people. Traitors don't care who they are friends with. They live by the principle "the enemy of my enemy is my friend." Vaughn Ukraine is ready to be friends with ISIS against Russia. Have you seen the last video from a Kiev bar, where they stage the cutting off of the head of our SU-24 pilot in Syria?
      Yes, it is enough to read the comments to the news from Syria about the participation of our Aerospace Forces there: what is in Ukraine, what oppositionists from Russia say with the same phrases. Involuntarily, the stereotype of "manuals from the STATE DEPARTMENT" comes to mind.
  6. +1
    11 January 2016 07: 23
    Something, "skis do not go" or rested - but what is this about now?
    Hint, please be kind ... to catch the point ...
  7. 0
    11 January 2016 07: 23
    "Isn't there anti-Semitism here?" (FROM) laughing
    But seriously, doesn’t Mr. Kabardin violate the rules of the site, namely, point B on inciting ethnic hatred?
    I don’t argue about the essence of the problem raised - it exists, but the manner of presenting the material is quite provocative to itself. Gentlemen, moderators, this stone is completely in your garden.
    1. +19
      11 January 2016 07: 33
      What does ethnic hatred have to do with it? We are talking about CIVIL affiliation and the erosion of national landmarks in Russia itself. I decided to write about this phenomenon after, among my network friends, at least two furious fans of the Ukrainian regime suddenly appeared, both from the Russian Federation. And for my pronounced pro-Donbass position, I ended up in an eternal ban.

      If it touches you or someone, then I don’t.

      Go to vkontakte: there is full of real interethnic strife; pro-Khuntovskih publics, in which they call to "kill kats ** s". Moreover, they call on the CITIZENS of the Russian Federation living in Russia.

      Your position is to close your eyes, pretend that there is no problem, until I hit my forehead
      1. +5
        11 January 2016 07: 53
        Quote: Kibalchish
        Your position is to close your eyes,

        But all this exists - remember how at the very beginning of the events a large mother from Voronezh, in my opinion, called the Ukrainian Embassy about the transfer of our special forces .. then it seemed nonsense ..
        1. -3
          11 January 2016 08: 52
          One mother! One mother! One mother! "Halva, halva, halva!" - did not become sweeter!
      2. +9
        11 January 2016 08: 16
        Yeah, many readers of the site, even if they live in Russia, do not visit anything except VO. For example, I love hockey and read about it on Sports.Ru. In the period of international competitions with the participation of the Russian national team (the youth world championship recently), the number of ethnic squabbles, mainly of an anti-Russian orientation, reaches its climax on the site. There are frequent cases of registration under Russophobic nicknames (Raska parashka, padded jacket, etc.) amid exclamations of a slogan orientation, breathing hatred of Russia and Russians, there are rather well-balanced comments trying to prove why Russia is an unjust, backward state. And the arguments should be noted that they not only have, but also weighty ones. This is the general state of the economy, the lack of elevators, nepotism, corruption, the corrupt elite, well, you yourself know everything perfectly. I want to remind the site of sports and Russian. What can people sincerely loving Russia and worrying about it oppose, besides faith in Russia? And they believe, and oppose, and curse like Mother, only the opposite choir is painfully merged, numerous and armed with the surrounding reality. So, not noticing the obvious split in your society is not just short-sighted, it’s a mistake.
        1. +6
          11 January 2016 09: 05
          It is necessary to oppose sober thinking. Do you really believe that there are no economic problems, social lifts, nepotism, corruption, or a corrupt elite in the West, in the same Sweden, Norway, Finland, Germany, and the United States? Then you are a very naive person. All this is there, but it is presented in a colorful package of "democracy." In America, for example, the clans of Kennedy, Bush, Clinton are not examples of nepotism at the presidential level. They have "no" corruption, but official lobbying is flourishing. Are they not periodically shaken by scandals among the elites? But today we see how masterfully the media are used to shape the desired public opinion. The problem of Russia is not so much the vices themselves inherent in absolutely all countries and peoples (in most countries they are built into their cultures, for example, nepotism and honor among the Caucasian and Asian peoples are also not perceived as a pure evil), but the maximalism and acuteness with which they are accepted by most of our people. And the most surprising thing is that, assessing sharply negatively similar manifestations in others, they often forgive them in themselves, in the circle of their relatives and friends.
          1. +1
            11 January 2016 10: 48
            I am talking about a sports site. I’m talking about a fairly large stratum of Russians who hate Russia, to which all the facts you have stated are light-hearted. This phenomenon is probably unique and hopefully a temporary one. It is based on the feeling of a huge injustice that happened, living in spite of the will in the soul of most ordinary people who managed to live under the USSR.
      3. 0
        11 January 2016 09: 28
        Quote: Kibalchish
        And for my pronounced pro-Donbass position, I ended up in an eternal ban.
        If it touches you or someone, then I don’t.

        This is generally even for me, I need to carefully choose my social circle.
        There is no need to make a hero out of an undergrowth-idiot who washed other people's antipsychotics with vodka, to drag a politician into this act of evolutionary selection. The sooner they forget about him, the better.
        And I don't need to tell about publics and so on, I can see perfectly what is happening around. And the authorities, by the way, quite effectively (in our country, at least) cope with such phenomena: the rally on "federalization" (is that, I wonder?) In the Kuban in the same 2014, gathered exactly three b.i. bils, who organized it , after which he died safely.
        Hysteria, however, can not help the case, the better you are in this case, the ruinous propagandists with clinical diagnoses. hi
        1. +5
          11 January 2016 09: 36
          I am better at paying attention to the problem. In order to disable a strategic power substation on the territory of the Russian Federation, a few idiots are enough to brainwash Ukrainian propaganda through social networks.
      4. +2
        11 January 2016 10: 55
        I absolutely agree with the author. Here, imagine that the number of Russophobes known to everyone needs to be increased by several times at the expense of those who also think, but are silent, speak in a narrow circle, speak not aggressively, but insinuatingly, as if reflecting on life ... That’s the number that the author talks about. Like circles on the water. There was an article about the Russians who fought on the other side. Someone was around them before they left. Unfortunately, I happened to see and hear Ukrainophilia .This was not my acquaintances, but they wanted them to be seen.
        It also happens here on the site of the minuses to those who condemn ukrov. Interestingly, the administration sees --- is it from the Russian Federation or Ukraine?
  8. 0
    11 January 2016 07: 32
    Interestingly, where and when was the photo taken?

    Real democracy reigns in Russia. I can’t imagine that anywhere besides Serbia and Syria people would walk with Russian flags.
    1. +2
      11 January 2016 07: 34
      This is the 2014 pro-Ukrainian Peace March.
    2. +2
      11 January 2016 08: 00
      Quote: AYUJAK
      Real democracy reigns in Russia. I can’t imagine that anywhere besides Serbia and Syria people would walk with Russian flags.

      but until 2013, for pedaling in the media, the word "Russian" and its derivatives could well have adjusted an article on separatism and nationalism
  9. +7
    11 January 2016 07: 38
    That hysteria at the expense of German cars to breed. If I prefer Japanese cars, this does not mean that I am a supporter of the transfer of the South Kuril Islands to Japan.
    Leavened patriotism will not bring to good.
    Recently I talked with a couple from Lviv, they said that they are no longer Ukrainians, but Muscovites.
    1. +12
      11 January 2016 07: 43
      There is an unwritten rule in the world: THE HEAD OF STATE must, during official events, go to the products of HIS car industry. The exception is the banana republics, where there is no automobile industry. Russia seems to be claiming the status of a great power ... or not already?
      1. +3
        11 January 2016 07: 58
        I agree. I myself live in an Africanized republic, with artificial statehood.
        Which without the support of Great Russia would have turned full of Somalia.
        1. +1
          11 January 2016 09: 00
          Quote: Humpty
          Humpty Duck (2) Today, 07:58 ↑
          I agree. I myself live in an Africanized republic, with artificial statehood.
          Which without the support of Great Russia would have turned full of Somalia.

          And where, if not a secret? If you do not answer - I will not be offended ... a joke.
          1. +3
            11 January 2016 09: 34
            Quote: Dembel 77
            And where, if not a secret?

            Go to the profile, it says there.
            Quote: Kibalchish
            THE HEAD OF THE STATE must, during official events, go to the products of HIS car industry.

            That is why they switch to the "Cortege". And many people drive other people's cars, by the way.
            And one more thing: Yeltsin introduced the fashion for "Mercy-Pullman", ruining his own auto industry by the end of his reign. "ZIL" was very good, they just had to be trained and modernized, "Merina" just had to be ordered - and they would bring it.
            1. +1
              11 January 2016 09: 43
              Thank you, Yuri, I forgot about the profile, but that is how a friend of mine lives in Bishkek too, doesn’t write anything good. Unfortunately.
  10. +4
    11 January 2016 07: 45
    Quote: astronom1973n
    Such "urkopatriots" must be calculated, then harshly, extremely harshly punished. Otherwise, there will be no success. Simply, in a word, a certain category does not understand. And such an opinion among Russian people arose only due to the lack of state ideology and lack of motivation. A gap in the brain, caused by the complete absence of any presence, filled with enemy propaganda.Classic of the genre. fellow

    I agree completely. Nits of such machine guns are necessary ..... these creatures will still be furrowed with us ... see what for
  11. -9
    11 January 2016 07: 49
    "to help a hostile foreign state" - these are manipulators like you who have ravaged the fraternal peoples. It turns out that Ukraine is now a hostile state.
    1. +12
      11 January 2016 07: 54
      With the current regime - just like that - a hostile state (a state as a system of governance) that pumps people up with military propaganda for a war with the Russian Federation.

      Just today's example:

      At a party in a Kiev club, the execution of the pilot of the Russian Su-24 was staged. The video with the production is posted on Youtube. It is shown how one of the participants, dressed in an embroidered shirt, put on his knees the other - supposedly a pilot with his hands tied. Then the first runs a second knife down his throat.




    2. +2
      11 January 2016 11: 02
      ... brotherly nations is who? those who used to be part of the CCCP, don’t tell me! The frankly speaking provocative ... You can only love Ukraine if you love it there ... hi
  12. +4
    11 January 2016 07: 52
    An article for the sake of strengthening the new term "Ukrofilia". There is no "philia". We are not afraid. we are not afraid, we are perplexed. We are looking at Ukraine, who is scratching their heads. who picks with a finger in the priest. The action is one, the result is different. One will come up with clever thoughts for the other except what will be nothing.
  13. 0
    11 January 2016 07: 55
    when do the “fathers of the nation” at the highest level exclusively prefer German automobile products?..Something like that ... the most important "father" .. drove a Lada .. he has a Volga .. And according to the article, some not a good impression ... One of my minuses ...
  14. +5
    11 January 2016 07: 58
    I fully admit that a similar problem exists. After all, no one forbade thousands of Ukrainians to move "to stay with their grandparents" in order to avoid mobilization. However, who knows with what thoughts and sacred dreams of the great nezalezhnaya they move and lead the naive people astray, starting with the words "I was there ...", yes, "barking from behind the fence" is much easier than participating in a landfill. So uncertainty appears when the TV says one thing and the new neighbor says another.
    1. +7
      11 January 2016 08: 00
      Ukrainians in the Russian Federation is a separate issue. Here is an example
      1. KOH
        +2
        11 January 2016 08: 09
        And who lives next to him? Apparently some women ...)))))
      2. +4
        11 January 2016 09: 22
        This is the essence of Ukrainians.
      3. +4
        11 January 2016 09: 37
        This post is a year and a half. The body, by the way, was discovered and educated by his colleagues. Everything is treated.
      4. +2
        11 January 2016 09: 55
        ---------- Ukrainians in the Russian Federation are a separate issue. Here is an example -------- and what else is it with broken legs and arms?
      5. +2
        11 January 2016 09: 55
        Your suggestion ? Ukrainian citizens of Russia (by 2014 approx. 2.1 million people) - in concentration camps?
        1. +2
          11 January 2016 12: 41
          ---------Your suggestion ? Ukrainians-citizens of Russia (by 2014 approx. 2.1 million people) - in concentration camps? ----------- If they do not understand that "Ukrainian" is just the territorial name of RUSSIANS then yes! otherwise, in the future, Russians will begin to be divided into Siberians, Kubans, some northerners, they will call it "nationalities" ...... A ---- Ukrainians-citizens of Russia -----, I think first of all Russians !!!
  15. +1
    11 January 2016 08: 04
    Something some day, today, is unusual. In the article, one other is better. About Donbass, the killings of commanders, subtle hints of thick circumstances. What's the matter? You can’t do so in one day, so much negativity. Or conceived? Then for what?
    1. +4
      11 January 2016 09: 08
      Well, you are right on V.S. Vysotsky:
      Dear editor! Maybe better about the reactor,
      About your favorite moon tractor? After all, you can not the same year
      Then the plates are scared, they say, mean, fly,
      Then you have dogs barking, then ruins say.
      I also love Vysotsky and respect a lot.
      1. +1
        11 January 2016 10: 50
        I also love Vysotsky and respect a lot.
        Yes, something, "sadness came, I'll go for a walk."
        Apparently, the Komsomol youth is still playing somewhere. I read about the Donbass, somehow it was not good. For a long time already almost a pensioner, but now. hi
  16. +2
    11 January 2016 08: 05
    Maybe this is correct when the author signs the article at the end, but sometimes you want to save time, not to read a couple of empty paragraphs.
  17. KOH
    +5
    11 January 2016 08: 05
    In Russia, it is necessary to liquidate all NPOs, this is exactly where they muddied, and their benefits are like a goat’s milk ...
    1. +5
      11 January 2016 08: 21
      This bastard needs to be eradicated from the territory of Russia, and as soon as possible!
    2. -2
      11 January 2016 09: 32
      Why overclock them? Wouldn't it be better to set on them the "brothers" who miraculously survived after the 90s?
      And squeeze the parasites and fill the budget with Uncle Sam’s money.
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  18. Riv
    +4
    11 January 2016 08: 07
    The author here clearly went over. Still, the overwhelming majority of Russian citizens went to fight for New Russia, and not against it. And the number of Russians who went to enroll in ISIS is generally ridiculous. I repeat: Russian. Blacks the more there will be dumped under bombs - the better.

    Russian propaganda is still trying to push through the topic of shared values. Patriotism, family, children, labor, Orthodoxy - and all that. Islam of the Russian, secular format is persistently opposed to religious fanaticism. They are trying to keep people by all means from radicalization.
  19. -22
    11 January 2016 08: 12
    Putin washes the blood of Russians, but many of this is not enough, they want to revel in her
    1. +8
      11 January 2016 09: 08
      But does Putin eat babies, I want to ask you?
    2. +7
      11 January 2016 09: 37
      And here is one of those mentioned in the article ...
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    4. +3
      11 January 2016 11: 06
      My friend, you have long been waiting for ISIS, forward under the Russian air bombs! hi
    5. +3
      11 January 2016 11: 14
      rinad RU Today, 08:12
      Putin washes the blood of Russians, but many of this is not enough, they want to revel in her

      - this is a diagnosis. Another provocateur.
  20. +6
    11 January 2016 08: 14
    Everything is clear here - these are people who have not been able to fulfill their potential in life and they naturally blame the current government for this, and news from the media and living conditions only strengthen them. Also, periodically pop-up miscalculations of power (the example of Vasiliev with Serdyukov and Red Thief in law) naturally this embitters many. I think that with such miscalculations, the government is slowly but surely digging a hole for itself.
    1. cap
      0
      11 January 2016 09: 18
      "Also, periodically emerging miscalculations of the authorities (the example of Vasilyev with Serdyukov and the Red Thief in Law) naturally embitters many. I think that such miscalculations are slowly but surely digging a hole for the authorities."
      Vladimir71
      "I will take the liberty of claiming that mass Ukrainophilia among Russians has become a kind of social protest. A protest against stagnation, all kinds of bans, the lack of social lifts and prospects. Here, by the way, it is appropriate to recall those Russians who are going to fight for ISIS. paid off. The ideological vacuum was filled, but not by what the Forbes billionaire commanders would have liked. "
      Author Igor Kabardin

      One way or another, if it is not processed for a long time, it begins to rot.
      It begins in the brain, which, as we know, is in the head.
      If the brain is located elsewhere, this is pathology. Pathology is being studied.
      That's right. Pathologists. Living in an era of change is terribly interesting.
      Especially in the nuclear age. Especially when the 33-year-old "little ruler" in honor of his birthday detonates a nuclear firecracker, and the "great rulers of the world" of all skin colors and religions shook their finger at him, questions of xenopatriotism fade into the background. our civilization will leave to future archaeologists besides the Egyptian pyramids.
      Put the author +. For honesty. hi
  21. +3
    11 January 2016 08: 19
    Something I did not notice in my circle and my children, who would go to the Maidan and fight for the country. Thank God there are no people to fight and help them !!!
  22. +2
    11 January 2016 08: 39
    Judging by the "minuses" and on VO ukrainophiles lurked?
  23. +9
    11 January 2016 08: 42
    Igor Kabardin correctly puts the questions in his article and finds answers to them. All comments refer to the fact that there is no need to quarrel. I will dwell on the fact that for 13 years I had to create high-tech enterprises in Ukraine, to raise its science and industry. We tried, through the defense department of the CPSU Central Committee, to raise questions of revising the ideology and education of the Ukrainian population. But the country's top leadership did not want to do this. So we missed our neighbor. See that Belarus fully supports us now? And our other former republics. In Ukraine, I wrote an article in "VO" "The price of betrayal or lack of competence", read it if anyone has time. Remember the Second World War, Babi Yar, and who met the Nazis with bread and salt. Igor is right, the German worker during the Second World War was completely devoted to fascist ideology and Hitler. How many fascists capitulated and surrendered at the end of the war? They fought like suicide bombers, and for what? Therefore, our country needs to revise its positions on the education of young people. It must value Russia and consider it the best country in the world. And for this it is necessary for young people to create all the conditions for this. I have the honor.
  24. +12
    11 January 2016 08: 42
    (Suddenly, we found that a huge number of people live next to us, who, being Russian by passport and blood, actually have long been a soul on the other side.)

    These "Russians with passports" tovarischam should have visited such a beloved Vukraine, knock around among the Svidomites and Banderaites, listen to what they say about us, what plans they are making against these "Russians with passports" and their relatives and friends, how they spit on everything , which is dear and sacred for a RUSSIAN person. Perhaps this "philia" would have disappeared from them. Although, if a person is u.r.o.d from birth, then correcting him is just a waste of time.
    (cry.)
  25. +4
    11 January 2016 08: 44
    Quote: XmyP
    "to help a hostile foreign state" - these are manipulators like you who have ravaged the fraternal peoples. It turns out that Ukraine is now a hostile state.

    At this stage, yes, obviously not friendly.
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  27. +4
    11 January 2016 08: 46
    Already it was found out that the minor did not commit suicide, but actually died from an overdose of drugs.
  28. +5
    11 January 2016 08: 50
    Something I did not meet fans of Ukraine among Russian.
    I saw Ukrainian citizens blindly believing in Kiev propaganda, I also saw Ukrainians who hate Bandera, but there are no adherents of the Ukrainian way of life among Russians ... this is not a mass phenomenon. Single pri-urki
    1. +4
      11 January 2016 09: 19
      Quote: Cap.Morgan
      There are no adherents of the Ukrainian way of life among Russians ... this is not a mass phenomenon. Single pri-urki

      Absolutely.
  29. +8
    11 January 2016 09: 06
    "Where, indicate to us, fatherland fathers, Whom we should take for models? Aren't these, rich in robbery? Protection from the court in friends found, in kinship, Magnificent building chambers, Where spilled in feasts and extravagance, And where clients will not resurrect- Foreigners of the past life are the most vile traits. And who in Moscow has not gagged Lunches, dinners and dances? "
    Quote from the comedy “Woe from Wit” (Act 2, Appl. 5) (1824) Griboedova A.S.
    1. cap
      +1
      11 January 2016 09: 46
      "And where foreign clients of the past life will not resurrect the most vile traits. And who in Moscow has not been gagged with lunches, dinners and dances?"

      I will continue with the topic: "... How can you imagine to a cross, to a place, How can you not please your own little man! .."
      vladimirvn EN Thank you for not letting the classics forget. hi
  30. +3
    11 January 2016 09: 19
    And who is Putin? Also Ukrainophile? Well, judging by his affairs (gas, for example) - yes.
  31. +6
    11 January 2016 09: 24
    First of all, what is our state policy towards Ukraine?
    "Our people live there" and that's all.
    It’s not said that these people were brought up as punishers for many years,
    which were supposed to clean Russia from the population in the event of its final collapse.
    Our bank branches operate in Ukraine,
    we try to meet her in many matters.
    Our task is to wait for the collapse of Ukraine and at the same time,
    so that the restoration and provision of the wreckage does not hang on us.
    And for the sake of this, you can play the friendship of peoples.
  32. 0
    11 January 2016 09: 25
    Ukrainophiles ... morons should be called morons, and not come up with incomprehensible synonyms.
  33. +5
    11 January 2016 09: 26
    I have already written why such "patsreots" appear. The reason is the regular impoverishment of citizens ... It only seems to us that we are all terribly correct and incorruptible ... And how a mole starts up in our pocket - we are ready to look for a better lot under any conditions ... And those who offer this "better lot" and the justifications are correct .. Do you think that the Iraqi generals, who buried their aviation in the sand, only offered money and threatened? No ... They probably said that by not allowing serious battles they would save a lot of lives ... And the new homeland will not forget this. It's the same with us ... Many simply express their protest ... And the only cure for them is a fat piece ... The Americans understand this ... But, for some reason, not a single Russian government since the time of Father Tsar can understand
  34. +5
    11 January 2016 09: 33
    For 25 years in the post-Soviet space, no one was occupied with people, and at that time, Western media, culture and other informal movements poured into the minds of our children, who gradually became enemies of their own state. To add just corrupt people and other offended people, it turns out that half of the country is actually people are ready to destroy their own country (as an example, Ukraine), so the Russians have something to think about.
  35. +5
    11 January 2016 09: 34
    my mother in the 70s went on a trip to Ukraine ... and already then, she said ... Ukrainians openly despised us (and I saw this everywhere except the eastern and Crimea. so the Americans didn’t do anything .. it was already everything is ready, but we are still so persistently friends and partners ... I'm talking about hohland and Turkey ... and half the world can be called sanctioners.
    1. 0
      11 January 2016 13: 50
      Quote: Alexander S.
      my mother in the 70s went on a trip to Ukraine ... and already then, she said ... Ukrainians openly despised us (and I saw this everywhere except the eastern and Crimea. so the Americans didn’t do anything .. it was already everything is ready, but we are still so persistently friends and partners ... I'm talking about hohland and Turkey ... and half the world can be called sanctioners.

      In the east of Ukraine, in particular in the north of the Lugansk region, there was also an enumeration with the Russian haters during the union, but the Westerners were not tolerated anymore. It is simpler to say that there is no one other than them in the world.
  36. -2
    11 January 2016 09: 41
    Quote: astronom1973n
    Quote: XmyP
    "to help a hostile foreign state" - these are manipulators like you who have ravaged the fraternal peoples. It turns out that Ukraine is now a hostile state.

    At this stage, yes, obviously not friendly.


    Ah, well, so it’s probably that the Ukrainians themselves took away the Crimea and in the future supplies weapons to the militia ;-)
    Don't you think that Ukrainians have the right to hate Russia's actions at the moment? Just let’s look at it like adults.
    We will not even raise the question that the people of Donbass were simply thrown. Now there is no turning back to Ukraine, and Russia is not waiting for them.
  37. 0
    11 January 2016 09: 58
    Author plus! News today-KIEV. In one of the restaurants in Kiev at a party called "#Shot in the back", the guests staged the execution of a pilot of a Russian Su-24 bomber shot down by a Turkish Air Force F16 fighter. The video with the production is posted on the Youtube portal.

    Presumably, the video was shot in the Barhot Hotbar restaurant on Marshal Malinovsky Street. On it, a man dressed in an “embroidered shirt” ran a knife through the throat of a man kneeling in front of him.
    To the acclamations of those present, he said that "this will be the case with every Rusak who comes to our land," and invited those present "to have fun and be more fun than this Rusak." The action took place to the music from the propaganda clips of the Islamic State terrorist group and the cries of “Glory to Ukraine!”.
    So the defenders of Ukrainians is to you, today a crest is disgusting!
  38. 0
    11 January 2016 10: 03
    The article is raw, too emotional, but in fact very correct.
  39. 0
    11 January 2016 10: 28
    .. gerontocracy reigns in the Russian Federation - both in music and in cinema.

    Uh-huh, but in England there are mummies "Zhukov" and "Rolling Stones", in the United States the dilapidated Coppola, Lucas and Arnold)))
    The ridiculous wording about the fraternal people ...

    The author associates a bunch of scum with the people, this is a mistake.
    ... the leadership of Ukraine alone declares that it is ready to fight with the Russian Federation to the end.

    The same rake, or the author believes that the Russian government is the people.
    Tens of thousands of people across the country are prepared with varying degrees of activity. for free help a hostile foreign state.

    Does the author believe Internet bots?)))
    The author, in my opinion, exaggerates, and distorts with numbers.
    A special love for the junta among Russian citizens should be caused by the statement of the Poroshni adviser with the typically Ukrainian surname Biryukov:
    "They should be hated? No, I have not. I have not experienced such a feeling. Disgust. The same as for some small and harmful insect ... The same feeling, just a moment before being hit with a slipper ... It's a pity, our slippers are not ready yet."
    But I do not think that this broad-skinned scum is the Ukrainian people.
    Let's take a look under a small scope at this financial brow-like insect, which in Ukraine itself was called "Judeobander".
    The "Zhidobander" got a good deal on blood in the area of ​​the Anti-People's Terrorist Operation - from the supply of cardboard ankle boots to banderlog to fraud with fuel and lubricants.
    The eyebrow rogue set up the production of "bulletproof vests", thanks to which more than 2 thousand simpletons wearing these "bulletproof vests" were disposed of, and tens of millions of hryvnias of donations collected by the "Wings of the Phoenix" group reliably stuck to the hairy hands of the "blue thief"
    In the 90s, the "Jew-bandage" began his combat path with petty scams in Nikolaev and Dnepropetrovsk, got a taste of it and went overboard, had to flee to Kiev. In Kiev, he got into the company "MacHOUSE", for fraud he gets a pendal in the ass, founds the "Computer Zoon" pyramid and inflates customers by 60 thousand cenots, this was already serious and they decided to make a Navskiy shurk out of a scoundrel.
    This is where the criminal chase "Phoenix" arises - Yurik pretends to be dead in order to "rise from the ashes", so the "Wings of the Phoenix" group has a glorious past.
    More details about this scum here:
    http://ybirukov.livejournal.com/734.html
  40. +7
    11 January 2016 10: 45
    The sensational story about a student who allegedly committed suicide because of his pro-Ukrainian views, there is only the last example of the state in which our society has found itself.

    The fact that he (Vlad Kolesnikov) committed suicide is only ringing by Radio Liberty, which in principle struck him about the annexation of Crimea, Russia's aggression against Ukraine and the rest of the crap that dirty liberals like Volchek and the rest Russophobic love so much. brotherhood. In fact, Kolesnikov did not commit suicide, but banally thumped with his peers, students and at the same time, he was still under the influence of barbiturates from which he received severe poisoning. Drugan Vlad was pumped out, but they could not save him, did not have time ...

    At the moment, the official version of the Investigative Committee of the Investigative Committee for the Samara Region, which checks the fact of what happened, is as follows: on December 25 in the evening in Zhigulevsk, two 18-year-old guys drank alcohol, and one of them (Vlad Kolesnikov - approx. Ed.) Also used psychotropic drugs and energy drinks. A few hours later he became ill. When his father returned home, he called an ambulance crew, but the young man could not be saved.

  41. +4
    11 January 2016 10: 50
    Dear, here we need to figure it out, the government itself takes a dual position, then the media are pouring and pouring streams of information far from the truth (it does not concern political decisions), everything is correct, I communicate and quite a lot with Ukrainians from different parts of Ukraine, everyone notes the media are very overbearing and in covering the situation and accuse everyone indiscriminately of conceivable and inconceivable sins, for example, prices in Kharkov are an order of magnitude lower than in Belgorod, and practically for everything, in fact, Ukrainians do not believe either the Russian media or their own, the main thing is that they survive will be further, the answer to this question is practically one "what God will give", they also note that it is the media that make ordinary "thugs" "heroes", by the way, the media, "help" normal people in Ukraine to turn their backs on Russia, about their "Ukrainophobes" ", this is the same lack of goals and ideology in the country, but in general, my advice is to think with your own head, watch the media less, be more outdoors and everything will be fine
  42. 0
    11 January 2016 10: 55
    ... who, at the call of their hearts, went to the service of the Reich, there were few in the USSR ...
    The ROA consisted of such units and a huge number of police units (In the village we had such a "Germanophile", it turned out later that he was a policeman, but he was a specific Germanophile) and Lagerfuehrer ...
    And now there will be no less "offended" by the authorities, but just a few will go to the service of the penguins.
    ... a young engineer in the afternoon is engaged in assemblies to the Armata tank or fifth-generation fighter T-50, and in the evening he is actively writing off with his friends from the public of the social network VKontakte Cyborgs. Donetsk airport "... - It's generally just a pearl.
    The author is either completely far from reality, or just a right-hander, just such a "pro-Ukrainian." But ... dividends do not smell ...
  43. -8
    11 January 2016 10: 56
    > It is necessary to change the education system, someone will instructively say, making a serious face for greater importance.

    It is necessary to pull your head out of the ass and stop duplicating the national patriotic tales: there are enemies around, rallying around puten, do not rock the boat. The main threat to Russia is not terrible enemies in top hats and tailcoats, who sit overseas and sleep and see how to grab and harm, but ordinary, well-known to all, homegrown capitalism. All who transfer arrows from the only real threat to fictitious ones work for the enemy. And you, the author, including.

    As for Ukraine, the increased sympathy and support is normal. Working Ukrainians found themselves in an even worse situation than dear Russians. And we will not leave them in trouble. And the Natsiks like you can argue as much as they like that you should think about yourself (about the nation, you wanted to say that when something stuttered about "Russians by blood"), that the Ukrainians are supposedly strangers to us for a long time and let them flounder themselves.

    You like characters cause only contempt.
    1. +3
      11 January 2016 11: 26
      Quote: Foton
      As for Ukraine


      At a party in Kiev, a "performance" was held, in which the execution of a Russian pilot of a Turkish Su-24 bomber shot down was staged. The staged video subsequently appeared on YouTube.

      The “performance” consisted of a man in an embroidered shirt kneeling a “pilot” with his hands tied and running a knife through his throat. As the Ukrainian newspaper Korrespondent notes, all this was accompanied by music from the IG videos about executions. After that, the presenter applauded, invited the audience to “have fun and be more fun than this rookie.”

      The party was in the same bar where the Russophiles ate a cake in the form of a baby lying on the Russian flag ...

      1. +2
        12 January 2016 05: 05
        after May 2, I’m kaklov only and can’t be called Cannibals.
        I was always amazed at the savagery of radical Muslims - thugs. Like the 21st century in the yard ...
        After May 2nd, I saw this in the Slavs. Moreover, which kind of like us, did not differ in anything until the collapse of the USSR, except in a little bit ....
        And after what he saw at the house of trade unions, he was sure that now Ukraine will explode with indignation, rise! ... Horseradish is there. Some beast and murderers, other pisses and traitors. No more for me than Ukraine. I try to avoid communication with Ukrainians.
        I will not forget, I will not forgive.
  44. +8
    11 January 2016 11: 36
    Alas. But Russia is losing the information war. And do not quote from American reports. Every day I see what is happening in the minds of my compatriots. Until now I can’t understand how rational Russian-digging people made themselves convinced that Russia attacked Ukraine. All the arguments that Ukraine is under external control, that foreigners rule in the government, do not work. We need real work in the information environment, we need good journalists who feel the audience. That was Oles Buzin. And because of this, he died. Such journalists are a whole division. Yes. Now the information field of Ukraine has been cleared. There is not a single radio or television channel that could be called conditionally pro-Russian. There is no hope for Internet and satellite television (not all of them have it). It needs its broadcasting to central Ukraine. In this regard, it is convenient to place a radio station in the Crimea. Its international legal status allows you to organize broadcasting in any format. A good location will cover the entire Black Sea coast.
    1. -3
      11 January 2016 13: 42
      Dear, if you want a drop of reality, so you don't have to count the people of Ukraine, it is the people (Jews, Russians, Ukrainians, other nations), without will and ready to dance to someone else's tune, namely massive, often unfounded accusations, forcing hysteria in our society and at the same time, the authorities themselves do nothing to overcome the crisis in Ukraine, leads to the fact that this empty space is occupied by everyone from various sects, to antipathy to everyone, I have repeatedly cited examples of how exactly our media and the government will lead to the fact that a large part of the Ukrainian people, will lose, and then will not want any relations with Russia, already serious prerequisites are visible with an unarmed eye, everything from simple family ties, to the very attitude towards Ukraine and the people living there, is destroyed and continues to be destroyed, there will be then you reap "
      1. +1
        12 January 2016 05: 11
        and there is. True, we cannot say that we are not doing anything for the Ukrainians.
        The borders are open, we supply coal, gas, electricity to those in need. With all the attacks and half-wits of Ukraine, Russia behaves like an elephant in relation to Moska. Which, incidentally, I personally just don’t like for many reasons. Starting with emigrating to us, ending with the loss of the face of the State, in which only a lazy one does not spit. Sometimes you need to kick the Pug ...
  45. +3
    11 January 2016 11: 38
    Quote: Kibalchish
    Liberal Peace March in Moscow. And this is only in Moscow, and even then not all liberals came out. So yes, tens of thousands at least.

    True, most of them are only capable of writing in social networks.

    All sawed, build roads and stuff !!! And the fact that they came up with in Moscow holds the Gaidar Forum !!! This is an inexpressible forum for the one who ruined the country !!! Who has a daughter, a traitor to Russia !!! am
  46. +2
    11 January 2016 11: 39
    And why is there a constitutional concept of a CITIZEN, his RIGHTS and DUTIES to the country of which he is a citizen? This righteous man likes to turn his thoughts to the interests of another country - no problem! To deprive citizenship on the basis of a court, as a person who acts to the detriment of the interests of the country of which he is a native citizen, or to grant such citizenship!
    Why should a country fulfill its RIGHTS and OBLIGATIONS to persons who act to the detriment of its interests?
  47. +3
    11 January 2016 11: 46
    Who are the so-called "Ukrainians"? This is the southern branch of the Russian people (Little Russia), which at one time fell under the influence of Western civilization. This can only be corrected with a belt, like a youngster. All other chatter will not have any effect, chat for at least another three thousand years. But the belt will be enough even once. The more a child in the family wants and demands, getting more and more each time, the worse it gets, especially in adolescence and adulthood. A good belt basically always corrects the situation.
  48. +5
    11 January 2016 12: 18
    but THIS needs to be printed out and sent to all ukrofil friends ...
    An activist of Bolotnaya Square Anastasia Leonova, who escaped from Russia, serves in the Azov battalion, got to the SBU on suspicion of involvement in terrorist organizations. This was reported by Moscow liberal journalist Evgeny Levkovich.
  49. +4
    11 January 2016 12: 45
    The article is a definite plus. After the collapse of the USSR. Ukraine constantly gives Russia a headache.
  50. +4
    11 January 2016 13: 04
    The Russians, under the yellow-blakitnye ... Danuna! This is all the swamp seek out any excuse and a way to spoil Mother Russia.
  51. +2
    11 January 2016 13: 18
    I won’t say about tens of thousands, but the percentage of people who actually protest against the government by supporting all its opponents is very large. There are quite a few of my friends like this, more than a dozen people. Communication with some had to be stopped. All conversations lead to this.
    But how many of them will actually fight for these ideas is a big question. I suspect not much. Rather, quietly avoid any specific actions.

    About ISIS. Just today, a colleague originally from Ufa said that in parallel with the flow of people to Syria to fight on our side (which also surprised me), there is a whole flow of people into ISIS (!), and everyone knows about this, everyone knows how and where to go, there are almost leaflets hanging around the city about it. To be honest, this information shocked me.
    Are there people from those parts here? Your data is interesting.
  52. +1
    11 January 2016 14: 32
    The idea of ​​“Ukrainianism” has become extremely attractive, since it copies with amazing accuracy what already happened in Germany in 1933-1939. But will Ukrainian pilots, tank crews and submariners be “educated” in military schools, for example, in the USA or Italy? Perhaps, but will they invest capital in human material, industry, science, etc. Western bankers? And will the “monster” get out of control in the end if this suddenly happens.
    Now it seems that the idea will remain an idea, and the Ukrainian land will go to these same bankers without investing any funds at all. The population of this territory, deprived of the possibility of even simple reproduction, will scatter to neighboring countries, will finally end up in slavery and will quietly die out, unless, of course, this extinction is accelerated in one way or another. And if in Russia there is no consensus about Ukraine, if they believe that 40 million deceived people live there, then over time, when the “experiment” or “thesis” work of Nulland and this ambassador (I don’t even want to mention his last name) fails, then It is necessary not to alienate people who have lost everything, to attract them to our side and cleanse the Ukrainian land of occupiers. And now we need to tell only the truth about Ukraine. History repeats itself twice, once as a tragedy, another time as a farce.
  53. +1
    11 January 2016 15: 12
    Quote: afdjhbn67
    Quote: tobacco
    AND WHAT DOES WE TURN ON THE BOX?

    All Christmas holidays on TNT, devilry - "battle of psychics" all day - is this really normal ??

    The TNT television channel is generally complete idiotism. "Comedy show" with stupid and one-sided humor, Dom-2 and stupid spectators with idiotic faces, painted with plaster. Just young people who are wasters of life, who haven’t created or built anything, are regulars at nightclubs, shoot drugs, snort all sorts of rubbish. Who are their parents? Probably, certainly not workers, not military personnel, and not doctors and teachers.
  54. +3
    11 January 2016 15: 57
    Personally, I constantly meet people who speak out in support of Ukraine, who scream like zombies, “It’s all Putin’s fault.” Many people call for the return of Crimea to Ukraine, but do not want to understand that by annexing Crimea, Russia defended its geopolitical interests and actually prevented the events that are taking place in Donbass. They mistakenly believe that the annexation of Crimea led to confrontation with the West and the imposition of sanctions. These people do not understand that Crimea and the events in the southeast of Ukraine are just a pretext for introducing sanctions and whipping up Russophobic hysteria. If these events had not occurred, the US government would still have carried out a provocation denigrating Russia in the eyes of the West, and sanctions would still have been imposed. These people are not concerned about the expansion of NATO near the Russian border, the deployment of missile defense in European countries, the increase in NATO troops in Poland and the Baltic countries, or the deployment of nuclear-filled aerial bombs in Germany. They believe that the West is a model of democracy, despite the fact that the West, through its actions, has trampled that very democracy into the mud. I am very sorry that such people are citizens of Russia and are ready to betray the geopolitical interests of the country for the sake of short-term benefits that they hope to receive from the West
  55. 0
    11 January 2016 16: 06
    In my opinion, this article is an obvious fake and a lie. Personally, recently on the Internet I have actually seen thousands of messages inciting hatred towards the duped Russian people living in Ukraine, more than “tens of thousands” of Ukrainophiles.
  56. +1
    11 January 2016 16: 23
    When was the photo for the article taken and what was the meeting about? And there is no need to say anything about ukrophiles; on the contrary, there is a process of disappointment in the “brotherly” people. The article is strange, there are many unconfirmed statements.
  57. +1
    11 January 2016 17: 07
    “The ridiculous formulation about the fraternal people (which, if you look at it, ceased to be such long before 1991), which was hammered into heads for decades, became so ingrained in fragile minds that many did not notice that there has long been no fraternal people, but there is a hostile aggressive regime" ++++++++++++++++++ How was the regime able to replace an entire people? Why is the wording about fraternal people ridiculous? Why are there no proceedings in favor of the argument that these people “ceased to be such people long before 1991”?
  58. 0
    11 January 2016 22: 41
    The brains of this oh-so-jammed column can be easily cured by socially useful work! Have all our territories been developed and minerals extracted!? The money earned by these pro-citizens should be used to train and educate citizens useful to Russia and to help old people who honestly worked for the good of the Motherland.
  59. +2
    11 January 2016 22: 44
    The article is definitely a “+”!
    It is needed, in my opinion, even if this same ukrophilia (for short) has not developed as much as the author describes; so that we can all be on guard, starting with ourselves. This infection must be stopped at the root, and by all legal and relatively legal means. Yes, yes, and without tolerance!
    A people who calmly watches as foreign puppets tear them away from their historical roots,
    is no longer fraternal, since he himself abandoned brotherhood.
    A people who tolerate freaks among themselves who rejoice at the news of our downed planes -
    people of the enemy country.
    The people who are calmly waiting for their country to join NATO are, excuse me, already
    population of a potential enemy.
    These are not brothers. Whether they want, later, having come to their senses, to become our brothers or not - that’s their problem.
    But whether we accept it is up to us to decide!
    In fact, have we learned to evaluate the Baltic states, Transcaucasia, Moldova?
  60. -1
    11 January 2016 23: 10
    Ridiculous formulation about fraternal people


    If we take into account the number of family ties between Ukrainians and Russians, then the formulation will no longer be ridiculous.

    Instead of encouraging enmity between peoples with such articles, it would be better to encourage the unification of our peoples in order to withstand the current onslaught. The author of the article is precisely one of those Russians who do not understand that what is happening in Ukraine is just an overture to what could happen in Russia and throughout the CIS. With a high degree of probability. Such Russians probably have firm confidence that they will ALWAYS have a large and powerful Russia behind them, and the immortal Putin at the helm.
    Imagine what will happen to Russia if Putin suddenly disappears. The iPhone will really have a blast here.
  61. 0
    11 January 2016 23: 48
    “Ukraine” is “Pro-Europe”, aka Anti-Russia, an enemy bridgehead on Russian territory. RF-"Russia" is not all of Russia. This is “The process has begun.”
  62. +2
    12 January 2016 05: 00
    In some ways, the author is right, but the conclusions he draws, in my opinion, are not correct.
    I base it on what I see, what is happening in my environment, in my world. (By the way, we are talking about Moscow).
    So, I don’t notice any kind of ukrophilia among RUSSIANS. Either hostility or don't care.
    And everything that goes into the defense and support of Ukrostan is, if we look deeper, “our” crests. Just look around, Russia and Ukraine in the post-Soviet space have assimilated so much that now, no matter where you spit, you’ll end up with Kazachenko, Gerasimenko, Maksimenko and others. Why go far, my wife turns out to be a cuckoo according to her passport, although she was born and lived her whole life in Siberia. Look at our stage - almost 80% are kakly (what, but kakly can sing). IMHO, this is why it seems that the Russians are FOR Ukraine. These are just “not those” Russians. These are ethnic crests who have lived on this land since the times of the USSR, but this does not stop them from being Ukrainians. And there are a lot of them. But they have relatives THERE, their mentality is still crests and there is no escape from it.
    What to do about it? You can't do anything. Take people as they are. Don’t forget what a great state you and I are children of. There were no borders, people traveled, worked, served, lived, got married, stayed anywhere.
    Some ended up in Uzbekistan, some in Moldova, some beyond the Urals or in the Far East. We were all "RUSSIAN". Russian not in terms of ethnicity, but in terms of Russian - in the sense of SOVIET. And no enemy could ever distinguish us - this Buryat, this Bulbash, and this Siberian - for all of us we were all Russians (Soviet people).
    So there is nothing to be surprised when you hear pro-Ukrainian speeches from seemingly Russian people - dig deeper and you will see the shit. It’s easier to just ask for the last name - in 60% of cases this is enough.

    Well, what you really need is to realize your Russian essence. That country no longer exists. Now an Uzbek is an Uzbek, a kakol is a kakol, it’s time for us to become purely Russian. Although my calls sound sad.
    And the main thing is a national idea, which the current government does not have. This is the problem. Putin will not leave tomorrow. There is also no alternative to Putin in the political arena. But Putin doesn’t have a national idea either. And this means that only everyone in himself, in his family and in his children can preserve the “Russian soul”. On a state scale, everything is very ambiguous. I'm not a jingoist and I try to look at things realistically. Russia (and not only), after the collapse of the USSR, stopped instilling morality, honor, and valor in its people. Laugh, laugh, but how I regret that there are no Octoberists, pioneers, Komsomol, no, albeit at times exaggerated and grotesque, heroes, on whose examples generations were brought up. There are no examples of the state caring for its citizens, the elderly and the youth. There is nothing... To whom is the complaint?
    -To the leader of the country. If Putin had only recently come to power, he would have had to start from scratch, etc. - yes, there is no conversation. But Putin has been at the helm for 16 years! These are four terms (of course we consider castling, not small). In FOUR terms it was already possible to create your own cabinet, remove unnecessary ones, establish management and launch the economy.
    I know what Putin’s followers will write now, about the ruins of the country, about how much has been done, etc. - I won’t argue, because everything has already been said more than once, you yourself know everything. And I would understand everything, but things are still there. Nothing has been done. The economy is disfigured (or rather, it simply doesn’t exist), with rare exceptions, all medicine is paid for, education has been killed (this is the worst thing, by the way). In response, I can simply throw up my hands and suggest opening my eyes and really looking at what is happening around me. Well, at the same time, remember all sorts of COOP “Ozero”, Chubaisov, Vasilyev and others.
    The issue of education needs to be raised separately. In essence, we are being destroyed through our children. Generations of “Ivans who do not remember their kinship” are growing, who, if they themselves do not destroy everything that has been collected for centuries, will sell it or cede it to our enemies.
  63. +1
    12 January 2016 05: 00
    ....But once upon a time the Americans literally burrowed into the ground, building bomb shelters and spending fabulous amounts of money on the arms race. But now they’ve realized that it’s easier to destroy us from the inside, even after a generation or two. You just need to wait a little.