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Media: DAISH may have missiles capable of shooting down air targets

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The group DAISH (IG) had the opportunity to produce weaponcapable of shooting down civilian and military aircraft, as well as equip mined vehicles with a remote control system, reports RIA News Post Sky News.


In the weapons laboratory.

“Scientists and military experts working for the grouping in the city of Rakka, which is the“ capital ”of the Islamic State in Syria, were able to produce self-made heat accumulators for ground-to-air missiles. That allows us to design warheads of rockets with thermal homing heads, ”reports the TV channel.

It is noted that now the militants "can re-commission thousands of missiles that were written off by Western governments as obsolete."



According to the terrorists, "warheads with thermal homing can be used to carry out attacks on passenger and military aircraft, while they have up to 99% targeting accuracy."

The Independent newspaper, in turn, notes that "the creation of a heat accumulator necessary for the operation of rockets is a very difficult task" and requires "certain scientific knowledge."

In addition, the video, available to Sky News, shows the test car, which is controlled remotely. It can be seen that behind the wheel of a mined car is a dummy.
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  1. Wild_grey_wolf
    Wild_grey_wolf 6 January 2016 12: 02
    +13
    The confrontation goes to a new level. . . Now you need to be careful and alert in everything.
    1. MIKHALYCH1
      MIKHALYCH1 6 January 2016 12: 08
      +18
      Soon "patriots" will be producing .... What the hell! The border with the Turks must be closed ... All this is not good! I hope we will manage everything that we planned. hi
      1. Nikolay K
        Nikolay K 6 January 2016 12: 35
        +25
        We bought a batch somewhere on the black market and tell tales about our own production
        1. cniza
          cniza 6 January 2016 12: 40
          +18
          Bought or not bought, but it doesn’t shine anything good, until Turkey is put in its place, it will continue.
          1. Alex 1972
            Alex 1972 6 January 2016 12: 47
            +15
            Quote: cniza
            until Turkey put in place

            First, the United States must be put in place.
            And after that, Turkey, CA, Ukraine and others, others, others themselves will take their place at the bucket.
          2. hrych
            hrych 6 January 2016 12: 48
            +10
            Their affairs are very bad, since the White Gods began to scare them with fairy tales, they had their signature samples seized in Iraq and Syria and supply them with systems and Turks and Arabians, but there was no sense and never will be. In order for our plane to be shot down, it was necessary to use combat aircraft, to aim from Avax, and even then they were given a bastard the route and time.
            1. Wolverine
              Wolverine 6 January 2016 15: 16
              +3
              Do not underestimate the enemy, you need to howl and be proactive so that you don’t want to — they wanted the best, but it turned out as always.
              1. hrych
                hrych 6 January 2016 18: 44
                +5
                And what will the classics say ...
        2. Altona
          Altona 6 January 2016 13: 01
          +5
          Quote: Nikolai K
          We bought a batch somewhere on the black market and tell tales about our own production

          ----------------------------
          "Friends" Turkish, Qatari or Saudi go and fit, "they do not abandon their own" ...
          1. Olegater
            Olegater 7 January 2016 05: 00
            0
            Tu all tried, who invested in these jackals. You said it right, but I want to remind you that recently Qatar bought Soviet-made bombs from 404 or (and) former Eastern Europeans, possibly missiles with homing or in detail and then put them on. something like this.
        3. Junior, I
          Junior, I 6 January 2016 13: 25
          +1
          It is important that they can already use them !!!
          1. SRC P-15
            SRC P-15 6 January 2016 13: 38
            +13
            If everything was so simple, then long ago planes would have shot down missiles without radar stations. But for some reason everyone is trying to create anti-aircraft missile systems, which include: a radar, an antenna post, launchers and much more secondary. And besides, in order to be able to work at these complexes, you need to learn a lot. Therefore, most likely, the West is trying to secretly help them in this.
            1. Sirocco
              Sirocco 6 January 2016 16: 37
              +3
              Quote: СРЦ П-15
              Therefore, most likely, the West is trying to secretly help them in this.

              Most likely it will be so, but these statements, a screen for averting eyes, they say we have nothing to do with, they made it themselves.
      2. meriem1
        meriem1 6 January 2016 12: 49
        +1
        Quote: MIKHALYCHXNNX
        Soon "patriots" will be producing .... What the hell! The border with the Turks must be closed ... All this is not good! I hope we will manage everything that we planned. hi


        Do not close this facet is necessary. To plow.
        1. Great-grandfather of Zeus
          Great-grandfather of Zeus 6 January 2016 13: 19
          +3
          meriem1-it’s not the border, but the fact that the igil project must work off the money invested in it. that the shaitans themselves do not, they will buy or give the saudas or yankees. it’s just with the sauce that the igil can legalize all the American lobarotorias of the shaitans and help in repair or development of weapons. and while the United States is there, they will not let them close the border, even if for this they have to change the erdogenome to a more compliant puppet.
        2. MIKHALYCH1
          MIKHALYCH1 6 January 2016 13: 26
          +1
          Quote: meriem1
          Do not close this facet is necessary. To plow.

          It’s better to mine tightly! I’m sure every night there will be explosions and screams ... Such funds are available (even from the air)!
    2. NIKNN
      NIKNN 6 January 2016 12: 09
      +9
      Now you need to be careful and alert in everything.


      I agree to everything1205

      and military aircraft, while they have up to 99% pointing accuracy. "


      Straight C300
      1. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 6 January 2016 12: 15
        +12
        Quote: NIKNN
        they also have up to 99% pointing accuracy. "

        Straight C300

        The key here is "According to the terrorists." smile
      2. Altona
        Altona 6 January 2016 13: 03
        0
        Quote: NIKNN
        Straight C300

        --------------------
        Even if one is knocked down it is still unpleasant and the resonance will be-DAISH ceased to be boys for air whipping ... And you can run a few pieces on 1 target ..
    3. WKS
      WKS 6 January 2016 12: 09
      +11
      Most likely this information was invented to intimidate the faint of heart, and this rocket can only shoot down the plane that will be chasing it itself.
      1. Strezhevchanin
        Strezhevchanin 6 January 2016 12: 15
        +26
        What for??? Why fence a garden if they can be simply stupidly given. That's why this shnyaga is launched.
        1. Al_oriso
          Al_oriso 6 January 2016 12: 37
          +11
          The Igilovites can be provided with missiles, and spread the legend that they themselves designed them.

          "Look, they will soon start building fighters."
          1. cniza
            cniza 6 January 2016 12: 42
            +3
            Quote: Al_oriso
            The Igilovites can be provided with missiles, and spread the legend that they themselves designed them.

            "Look, they will soon start building fighters."



            Everything goes to this and the United States will believe it first ... they will say they produce it ...
            1. Amurets
              Amurets 6 January 2016 12: 55
              +4
              Quote: cniza
              Everything goes to this and the United States will believe it first ... they will say they produce it ...

              And then the Americans are fools? In the village forge, they will make an optronic matrix and open an opto-gyro platform.
        2. hawk
          hawk 6 January 2016 19: 34
          +1
          They learned from us. Well, as in Dombas - tanks from pedestals ...
      2. Proxima
        Proxima 6 January 2016 12: 29
        +3
        Quote: wks
        Most likely this information was invented to intimidate the faint of heart, and this rocket can only shoot down the plane that will be chasing it itself.

        I agree. These are just horror stories for housewives. Arab "kulibins" and those who sympathize with them are something new.
    4. seti
      seti 6 January 2016 12: 15
      +5
      Who would doubt that. If there are no engineers and factories, then patrons of fashion are always happy to help. This is what was expected.
    5. Misha Honest
      Misha Honest 6 January 2016 12: 27
      +3
      Quote: Wild_Grey_Wolf
      The confrontation goes to a new level. . . Now you need to be careful and alert in everything.

      No matter how vigilant you are, it won't save you ... It always arrives when you don't expect it. We are at war, whether you like it or not. It is high time to recognize our Western "partners" as enemies.
      1. Amurets
        Amurets 6 January 2016 12: 42
        +2
        now the militants "can re-commission thousands of missiles that have been retired by Western governments as obsolete."
        Now who is familiar with the solid rocket motor issue? What happens to fuel during long-term storage? At least with powder, even with mixed? Liquid fuel is not used in such missiles.
        1. hawk
          hawk 6 January 2016 19: 36
          0
          Dear, you didn’t understand that this is an otmaza for real weapons ...
    6. GSH-18
      GSH-18 6 January 2016 12: 44
      +2
      Media: DAISH can appear missiles capable of shooting down air targets

      Or they may not appear request Moreover, if a couple of FAB-500 flies where necessary good
      It’s time to get used to the fact that the morons-idiots basically tremble with their tongue. Pug barks at the elephant again laughing
      I think our intelligence and VKS have already taken note of this statement, and the hunt has already begun bully
      1. hawk
        hawk 6 January 2016 19: 38
        0
        God forbid, and then a lot of entertainment for the holidays brought to the theater ...
    7. Finches
      Finches 6 January 2016 12: 46
      +1
      Unfortunately, a 100% victory over this infection, and even with the complete consolidation of the world community, it is possible to achieve only a full-scale ground operation and a total cleansing of all holes!
      1. midivan
        midivan 7 January 2016 01: 27
        +3
        Quote: Finches
        Unfortunately, a 100% victory over this infection, and even with the complete consolidation of the world community, it is possible to achieve only a full-scale ground operation and a total cleansing of all holes!

        preferably oil holes yes
    8. GSH-18
      GSH-18 6 January 2016 12: 48
      +2
      heat-guided warheads can be used to attack passenger and military aircraft, while have up to 99% pointing accuracy»

      Chevo Chevo ??? belay And what is not all 100%? laughing
      Trends are new! But what about farting inflated consoles with bombs ?? Did not live up to expectations ??? laughing laughing laughing
    9. Artyom
      Artyom 6 January 2016 13: 09
      +2
      yet another reset, the video shows a rocket for suspension on a plane, for such gadgets a sighting station is still needed! Looking forward to the next episode!
    10. Army1
      Army1 6 January 2016 20: 30
      0
      Not without the help of our partners, the Papuans will have an ZV rocket, provocations are possible, we must carefully and hard work
  2. Ami du peuple
    Ami du peuple 6 January 2016 12: 03
    +6
    “The creation of a heat accumulator necessary for the functioning of rockets is a very difficult task” and requires “certain scientific knowledge”.

    Oh, and who helped them? Really such capable farmers and shepherds themselves turned out to be?
    Obviously, Western scientists tried, and maybe the West gave them the technology that is now given out as its own Igilov development.
    But we will condemn the DPRK for the hydrogen bomb.
    1. gregor6549
      gregor6549 6 January 2016 12: 14
      +5
      Another underestimation of the enemy. Dozens of highly educated specialists of various specialties work for ISIS, especially since ISIS has enough money to pay for their work. I won’t be surprised if a number of military technologies were bought only in the West but also in Russia and other former Republics of the Union. Recently in some publication (I don’t remember which one) I read about ISIS plans in the field of the economics of my movement. Quite knowledge-based and realistic plans. So thermal GOS can be their strength and not only them.
      1. Proxima
        Proxima 6 January 2016 12: 33
        +1
        Quote: gregor6549
        Another underestimation of the enemy. Dozens of highly educated specialists of various specialties work for ISIS, especially since ISIS has enough money to pay for their work.

        Specialists and big money is one thing, but at least a primitive production infrastructure is still needed. Not on their knees, but they’re making it all.
        1. gregor6549
          gregor6549 6 January 2016 15: 11
          +1
          The production facilities that can be used to create / modernize weapons are already captured by the IG more than enough. These include, among other things, repair companies used by former owners of weapons seized at the time of the IG,
    2. alexander 2
      alexander 2 6 January 2016 12: 58
      +1
      Most likely the West did not transfer technology to them, but simply gave its old missiles. While there is nothing to worry about, counteraction has long been invented from such missiles. So when they are given something newer, then it will be more difficult to neutralize them. In any case, they must be beaten harder so that they do not have time to get something more modern.
  3. GRAY
    GRAY 6 January 2016 12: 06
    +2
    Bamalei learned how to make batteries, now it's up to the small thing - it remains to do the TGSN.
  4. venaya
    venaya 6 January 2016 12: 10
    +2
    an opportunity to produce weapons capable of shooting down civilian and military aircraft

    Clearly catch up with fear. Although there are representatives of many countries of the world, only production still requires a wide variety of components, which is very doubtful about the ability to deliver everything you need to those places.
  5. KOMA
    KOMA 6 January 2016 12: 12
    +2
    Yeah, we know, and from the tunnels dug through the city, the militants are building a hadron collider! The battery from the Toyota is attached to the rocket, that's their invention!
  6. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 6 January 2016 12: 14
    +11
    "Heat accumulators" are, I think, translation difficulties. Cooling devices for IR matrices - refrigerators. Do barmaley students study exclusively in madrasahs? The refrigeration system based on the expansion of high pressure gas has been known for centuries. And the creation of Stinger missiles based on modern element base is not a big problem. Are you just talking about bringing the old stocks of these missiles to combat readiness? Barmaley mastered filling high-pressure balloons with argon? This did not add range and accuracy to the missiles. Air defense systems with homing heads based on radar principles (active, semi-active, etc.) have a really high altitude.
    The news is almost from the category of "condom air defense".
    1. GRAY
      GRAY 6 January 2016 12: 31
      +1
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      "Heat accumulators" are, I think, translation difficulties.

      No, it's shit that produces electricity when heated. It has nothing to do with homing heads.
      It can be assumed that they are going to restore the "rotten" rockets, however, given that such a battery can easily be stored for about thirty years, then for sure something else will not work in such a rocket.
      1. AVA77
        AVA77 6 January 2016 13: 33
        +1
        I doubt that the power there is due to the selection of powder gases that spin the turbine with the generator on the needles like that. At the expense of the heat accumulator, only a matrix sensitive to IF radiation comes to mind. Then they arranged a silicone valley in the basement wink Apparently someone threw something to them here and they make a noise.
        1. GRAY
          GRAY 6 January 2016 14: 33
          +2
          Quote: AVA77
          I doubt that the power supply there is due to the selection of powder gases that spin the turbine with the generator on the needles. It was only at the expense of the heat accumulator that the matrix sensitive to IF radiation comes to mind.

          I decided that this is about it:
          Thermal backup batteries. Industrial production of thermal backup batteries began in the late 40s of XX century. The anodes were originally calcium and magnesium. In recent years, lithium alloys have been mainly used for this purpose. Calcium chromate was previously used as cathodes in calcium standby power sources; iron disulfide and vanadium pentoxide are used in lithium batteries. As an electrolyte, a mixture of lithium and potassium chlorides is used. When heated to 450 ° C and higher, usually carried out using pyrotechnic compositions, the electrolyte melts and the elements are activated. The activation time is 0,1-3 s. Redundant sources are structurally performed in the form of a battery consisting of a large number of series-connected elements and alternating heaters. The advantages of heat backup batteries include high power density, the ability to work in a wide range of ambient temperatures and long-term storage in an inactive state. The disadvantages of the batteries are a short discharge time due to cooling of the electrolyte and a low degree of use of active masses.

          Heat sources are used as stand-alone backup current sources for powering special equipment: anti-tank systems, anti-aircraft systems, on-board power for missiles, power for warhead automation systems, multiple launch rocket systems, non-contact radio-explosive systems and sensors, as well as for supplying a sonar system and various electrical and radio engineering devices, communications, fire extinguishing systems, emergency and rescue equipment.
          1. AVA77
            AVA77 6 January 2016 16: 00
            0
            It may well be but this does not cancel the silicone valley laughingcatch +
    2. donavi49
      donavi49 6 January 2016 14: 00
      +3
      They seized positions with missiles C-75, C-125 and Cuba. Moreover, unlike the Libyan craftsmen (they altered them to Earth-Earth), they stupidly burned the rockets, and adapted the chassis to the usual martyrs.

      However, these are bulky complexes. A missile with a radar will not fly to the target itself, you need to give target designation - target illumination from a powerful ground-based guidance radar. The inclusion of radiation is a death sentence for the calculation of a single complex. Let there be at least Buk-M2.

      No, you can shoot in ambush once, but then the American Wild Weasels and groups with PRR from the VKS will be on duty in the sky, generously showering any radiation with PRR rockets. For such a turn will not suit anyone.

      Another thing is thermal rockets. They are more mobile, inconspicuous, and the PRR cannot be thrown there with a lapel and withdrawal into the anti-ballistic maneuver.

      And MANPADS in Syria captured thousands, of all kinds. The only trouble is that they are expired trash. All successful launches of MANPADS are either fresh Libyan Needles-C or Sudan FN-6.
    3. KVIRTU
      KVIRTU 6 January 2016 23: 22
      0
      In the article, as you mean, the translation is certainly not correct. "Thermal batteries" means, not thermal batteries, of course. And the device that produces email. energy as a result of thermal transformation at chemical. reactions with the release of heat (mixing of reagents at the start of the rocket).
      They have, by the way, "20-year or longer storage life", well, 20 years shelf life.
      At present, to place finger-type lithium-ion batteries in that compartment of the rocket (I recall a 20-year shelf life) well, the level of knowledge in physics is 9th grade.
  7. aybulat
    aybulat 6 January 2016 12: 16
    +7
    The West continues to arm the Isis terrorists.
    1. yuriy55
      yuriy55 6 January 2016 12: 40
      +2
      Quote: aybulat
      The West continues to arm the Isis terrorists.


      Briefly and "in the eye" good
  8. Amurets
    Amurets 6 January 2016 12: 16
    +3
    I wonder how the heat accumulators will capture targets? I think the article is fake. Let the author of the news carefully study the book "Homing missiles by thermal methods"
    1. kolyhalovs
      kolyhalovs 6 January 2016 12: 32
      +3
      This article is a threat to start delivering MANPADS to bearded men.
  9. North
    North 6 January 2016 12: 17
    0
    where do the legs grow from? in Syria, the tail, and the head of the fish partners to grind into the root.
  10. Vladimir 1964
    Vladimir 1964 6 January 2016 12: 18
    +3
    According to the terrorists, "warheads with thermal homing can be used to carry out attacks on passenger and military aircraft, while they have up to 99% targeting accuracy."
    The Independent newspaper, in turn, notes that "the creation of a heat accumulator necessary for the operation of rockets is a very difficult task" and requires "certain scientific knowledge."
    In addition, the video, available to Sky News, shows the test car, which is controlled remotely. It can be seen that behind the wheel of a mined car is a dummy.


    Regarding remote control of a car, this is still acceptable, but for missiles and 99% accuracy is already from the category of "not for the faint of heart." Fake is not a fake, I can not judge, but the fact that the information is unreliable for some reason I am sure, because "on the knee" of the GOS you will not collect.
    Well, such an opinion, colleagues. hi
  11. PVOSV
    PVOSV 6 January 2016 12: 20
    +1
    there was a video on YouTube where the Basmachi from the "Wasp" air defense system fired at a Siri helicopter, as well as a lot of videos of the use of MANPADS. They did not invent anything, there is enough "iron" from Libya, Iraq and "humanitarian" supplies. the news was announced with the aim of preparing society for new terrorist attacks and directing the situation in the right direction
  12. AlexTires
    AlexTires 6 January 2016 12: 23
    +3
    American mentors could very well help their guys make rockets ground - heat-guided air. And for me this news is most likely - the legalization of the presence of such missiles delivered by the United States by the IS, which further pushes to accelerate the operation in Syria ....
  13. Misha Honest
    Misha Honest 6 January 2016 12: 28
    +2
    Quote: Misha Honest
    Quote: Wild_Grey_Wolf
    The confrontation goes to a new level. . . Now you need to be careful and alert in everything.

    No matter how vigilant you are, it won't save you ... It always arrives when you don't expect it. We are at war, whether you like it or not. It is high time to recognize our Western "partners" as enemies.
    After all, they have become them for a long time.
  14. varz
    varz 6 January 2016 12: 29
    +5
    Do not succumb to provocations. These throws are a prelude to the delivery of missiles from the West and other ISIS friends
  15. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 6 January 2016 12: 30
    +3
    Information cannot be underestimated, because some of these farmers studied in Cambridge and Baumanki. And in general, you need to quit throwing fans and fools in the East, so don't run too long. Having ready-made, even outdated SAM systems, it is quite possible to modify them to an acceptable level. Especially to buy a complete set and brains, if not enough of their own.
    1. DenZ
      DenZ 6 January 2016 12: 41
      +3
      Maybe this is so, but rather the news was simply adjusted to the realities of the fact that our "partners" handed over to the barmaley the old missiles from the air defense missile systems and the technologies for their refinement (so that they themselves would not be frankly fired). , from somewhere old missiles from air defense systems appeared (another question from which air defense system).
  16. ALEA IACTA EST
    ALEA IACTA EST 6 January 2016 12: 31
    +3
    And where did they get the technology and materials? Where, Erdogan?
  17. Hydrograph
    Hydrograph 6 January 2016 12: 33
    +2
    Quote: GRAY
    Bamalei learned how to make batteries, now it's up to the small thing - it remains to do the TGSN.

    Maybe they are supplied with batteries and TGSN heads will be supplied by our "partners" and the roller for excuses, they say, will do it by ourselves. They promised that Russian planes would fall.
  18. Rom14
    Rom14 6 January 2016 12: 35
    0
    Apparently the Turks began supplying Earth-to-air missiles and to cover their ass they found scientists from the Basmachi ... It's time to clean up the aircraft and put more effective sunshine on it., But this, apparently, will happen after another blow to the back ....
    1. yuriy55
      yuriy55 6 January 2016 12: 44
      +2
      Quote: Rom14
      It’s time to clean up the aircraft and supply more highly efficient sunsets ...


      It's time to clean up ... someone else's ... aviation and pay more attention to the cleansing of territories ... And there, even with "Sunstrikes", even with "Tornadoes", but even with vacuum bombs ...
  19. Lumumba
    Lumumba 6 January 2016 12: 37
    +2
    It can be seen that there is a mannequin behind the wheel of a mined car.


    Glory to the robots? Are the free martyrs over? Window dressing for YouTube, and more.
  20. koshmarik
    koshmarik 6 January 2016 12: 43
    +3
    "The successes of the ISIS military-industrial complex" have long been known. The overwhelming majority of his products and developments bear the mark known to the whole world - made in the USA. Indeed, the military-industrial complex has been created for decades and is based on an appropriate economic base, scientific schools, and highly professional personnel. Therefore, countries with a modern military-industrial complex can be counted on one hand and the tales that the most complex technical products are easily made on their knees are composed solely to divert the eyes from the supply of American weapons to ISIS fighters.
  21. Zomanus
    Zomanus 6 January 2016 12: 44
    +3
    And here I am interested in the following ..
    And what, all this garbage is so easy to do in the basement?
    That is, there is no need for production with machines, special conditions ...
    Or maybe they just send finished parts and they are engaged in screwdriver assembly simply?
    I’m directly touched by such news ...
  22. sergej30003
    sergej30003 6 January 2016 12: 45
    +4
    shepherds and traders cannot produce something like that, obviously the West has set a batch of missiles for the igles, and the heading is just for avert eyes
  23. Yarik
    Yarik 6 January 2016 12: 48
    +1
    Yes, some nonsense. TGSN and radio-controlled cars are incomparable within the same news. "Figures of different order." laughing
  24. Starik72
    Starik72 6 January 2016 12: 56
    +3
    It seems to me that this article is a warning! I don’t know if these bloody bandits will be able or not to do something like that, but I’m sure that they can buy all this, or receive in the form of humanitarian aid! And from whom, YOU know very well.
  25. lwxx
    lwxx 6 January 2016 12: 58
    +1
    They reconsidered the "iron man" - there in the desert they made a vigorous heart out of sand wassat But seriously, they will not do without outside help. Or have already received and now "averted".
  26. Kibl
    Kibl 6 January 2016 12: 59
    +1
    Yes, just bearded ghouls drove all this stuff to some sort of Ukraine or Bulgaria, the benefit of this junk in their warehouses abound!
  27. tanit
    tanit 6 January 2016 12: 59
    +1
    It seems not April 1. laughing
    I'm about what they can produce.
    About something that may appear is not at all funny.
  28. valokordin
    valokordin 6 January 2016 13: 03
    +1
    Quote: tanit
    It seems not April 1. laughing
    I'm about what they can produce.
    About something that may appear is not at all funny.

    And the Ukronatsists, and more precisely Nezalezhnaya Ukraine, will definitely help them in this.
  29. Signaller
    Signaller 6 January 2016 13: 10
    -5
    It’s stupid to take the guidance system with MANPADS of the Arrow type and stick this thing into a more powerful rocket flying higher and further, or the engine with the marching engine to improve the same Arrow to work longer. All. Business for a month. And so it all started perfectly. ???
    1. PVOSV
      PVOSV 6 January 2016 13: 22
      +2
      from oSkolkovo technology ??? laughing or Omerian propaganda revised? only there could
      1. Signaller
        Signaller 6 January 2016 20: 21
        +1
        In deeply. sat friend. The DPRK has already tested thermonuclear (in theirs) today, and we are all about the same .... Oksnis ........ Skolkovo is for sure .... pa. There are no questions.
        1. PVOSV
          PVOSV 7 January 2016 10: 17
          0
          see samples of Libyan basmachi crafts: stupidly remaking a missile launcher into a NURS. That's what the mind and abilities were enough for. Are you talking about some mythical
          It’s stupid to take the guidance system with MANPADS of the Arrow type and stick this thing into a more powerful rocket flying higher and further, or the engine with the marching engine to improve the same Arrow to work longer. All. Business for a month. And so it all started perfectly. ???
          Basmachei and MANPADS have more powerful missiles - but fortunately, alas, they can’t replace the battery in TAPIK laughing
          1. PVOSV
            PVOSV 7 January 2016 10: 19
            +1
            here is another sample that delivers a high-tech gangway laughing
    2. MIKHALYCH1
      MIKHALYCH1 6 January 2016 13: 31
      +2
      Quote: Signaller
      It’s stupid to take the guidance system with MANPADS of the Arrow type and stick this thing into a more powerful rocket flying higher and further, or the engine with the marching engine to improve the same Arrow to work longer. All. Business for a month. And so it all started perfectly. ???

      Address! Surname ... Wise guy!
      1. Signaller
        Signaller 6 January 2016 14: 55
        0
        You are smarty. This is arithmetic. So our German trophies in the 40s improved .. "Just add water" - I am fermenting. You have to think. No more. They have no brains. ???? There is. And for good money, there will be the BEST. Three or four months and everything will fly. So do not LYA_LYA. You just have to prepare for the worst. And try to avoid it. Good luck.
    3. Amurets
      Amurets 6 January 2016 14: 14
      +2
      Quote: Signaller
      It’s stupid to take the guidance system with MANPADS of the Arrow type and stick this thing into a more powerful missile flying higher and further,

      And where will it fly? For fun, look at the range of target acquisition by the passive homing head?
      1. Signaller
        Signaller 6 January 2016 14: 56
        +1
        A total of 500 meters is enough or less. The main thing is to get to the point where the target flies at this time.
    4. Signaller
      Signaller 6 January 2016 20: 35
      0
      You are smarty. This is arithmetic. So our German trophies in the 40s improved .. "Just add water" - I am fermenting. You have to think. No more. They have no brains. ???? There is. And for good money, there will be the BEST. Three or four months and everything will fly. So do not LYA_LYA. You just have to prepare for the worst. And try to avoid it. Good luck.
    5. midivan
      midivan 7 January 2016 01: 35
      +3
      Quote: Signaller
      It’s stupid to take the guidance system with MANPADS of the Arrow type and stick this thing into a more powerful rocket flying higher and further, or the engine with the marching engine to improve the same Arrow to work longer. All. Business for a month. And so it all started perfectly. ???

      but you can still take 5km-8km fieldman P-274 and Ta-57 yes to this matter from a quadrocopter a couple of motors with propellers and then the marching engine is not needed wink bully
  30. vitaliy.rnd
    vitaliy.rnd 6 January 2016 13: 17
    +6
    Without the approval and assistance of the United States, they will not have anything.
  31. VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 6 January 2016 13: 19
    +3
    Some vague doubts, in this way the Americans could "help" the DAISHMAN.
  32. Olfred
    Olfred 6 January 2016 13: 19
    +2
    I wish that these "rockets" would explode right at the start and that these devils would take more with them to hell ... am
  33. nrex
    nrex 6 January 2016 14: 40
    +1
    "Crying" partners planted these LEGO constructors with detailed assembly instructions, definitely.
  34. gregor6549
    gregor6549 6 January 2016 15: 07
    0
    Here is a list of types of weapons that the Islamic State possesses according to Western intelligence. Even if we allow a certain error that the compilers of the list could make, it still looks impressive. http://www.militaryfactory.com/smallarms/weapons-of-isis.asp
  35. nik1321
    nik1321 6 January 2016 16: 09
    +1
    It would be interesting to note that terrorism of the level of igilas cannot exist on its own ... Simple mathematics - for warfare it is necessary - money, food, weapons, ammunition, soldiers, etc. The conclusion is clear - behind the screen of igilos are rich and strong states, therefore one should be surprised if suddenly terrorists from igilas not only find money, but also master the production of the most sophisticated weapons - if needed. They will all be given and sold if they fought for the interests of the sponsors of terror. If things aren’t going well in Syria , then this is exactly what was to be expected. Another question is how are they going to react to this?
  36. Former battalion commander
    Former battalion commander 6 January 2016 16: 27
    +1
    Against such homing heads, special countermeasures have long been created, with which ALL government aircraft are equipped. These systems are now on ALL military helicopters participating in hostilities in Syria. It is not difficult to install them on ALL aircraft. Such proposals have already been received - to OBLIGATE all airlines to install such a system on aircraft flying into "dangerous zones". The experience of operating these systems shows that in Syria the stingers (of whom the terrorists have a dime a dozen) have not yet shot down ANY HELICOPTER, although they are actively involved in combat operations at LOW ALTITUDE! So, the attempts of these guys with such GOS are futile ...
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 6 January 2016 17: 18
      0
      "special counteraction systems have long been created," ////

      What kind of systems are these ?: tell me at least in general terms ...

      "that there are stingers in Syria (which terrorists have a dime a dozen)" ////

      In the open press did not appear a single case of Stinger
      in Syria. Do you have any special information?
    2. DenZ
      DenZ 6 January 2016 18: 26
      +1
      Write nonsense. Firstly, the President-S system, which you did not name, but meant in Syria, is not installed on all planes (in my opinion, it does not stand on any plane at all (we read Wikipedia stupidly)). the aiming head is enough heat traps (which, yes, are on everything that flies in Syria). As for the Stingers in Syria, can you find out the source of your non-appealing statements? There are big doubts that the barmaley have stingers or Needles. The cases of their use in Syria have never been leaked to the press. Well, about the President-S systems on civil aircraft. In Russia they are not put on (simply because there was no need, since civil usually they don’t fly where it is possible to use MANPADS) It can and does have plans to set, but it’s neither fast nor cheap (similar systems are on Israeli civilian liners).
  37. PCF
    PCF 6 January 2016 16: 39
    +2
    Well, the "partners" have made their move. Now it's our turn.
    A modest IMHO sounds something like this: foreign intelligence services and others like them should make every effort to ensure that planes showered from the sky not our coalition. Now there are many coalitions, you can choose, but I like Turkish planes especially. How this will be accomplished - false targeting by oneself, actions of unidentified DRGs, bribery, sabotage and wrecking - it does not matter, the main thing is that the planes begin to fall and it's desirable from the use of self-made anti-aircraft missiles.
    "Partners" will get a new impetus for serious thinking and a reason to attract more forces and resources. You look and start to fight in earnest ...
  38. keinz
    keinz 6 January 2016 18: 55
    +1
    don’t tell me, create a system, oh well, I went for the neighing chips, it’s needed years, only if someone didn’t fit, and then training is at least half a year ..
  39. vair
    vair 6 January 2016 19: 34
    0
    Quote: cniza
    Bought or not bought, but it doesn’t shine anything good, until Turkey is put in its place, it will continue.

    Yes, the Turks need a slap in the face, otherwise they will not calm down; am
  40. Kostyam
    Kostyam 6 January 2016 19: 58
    +1
    ISIS destroyed the Iraqi Armed Forces base

  41. wandlitz
    wandlitz 6 January 2016 21: 17
    +1
    now the militants "can re-commission thousands of missiles that have been retired by Western governments as obsolete."
    And what did these thousands of missiles decommissioned by the Western governments "utilize" in ISIS?
    1. DenZ
      DenZ 6 January 2016 23: 15
      0
      now the militants "can re-commission thousands of missiles that have been retired by Western governments as obsolete."

      Western governments are feverishly rubbing their hands in thoughts of how much they will pocket for it.
  42. Yak28
    Yak28 6 January 2016 21: 57
    +2
    The United States decided to arm the MANPADS bandits, so that Russia would not suddenly suspect NATO countries of helping the bandits, a delusional stuffing into the media was made that monkeys have the ability to produce weapons
  43. gammipapa
    gammipapa 6 January 2016 22: 48
    0
    But what about flying condoms with bombs ??? is no longer in trend?
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  46. midivan
    midivan 7 January 2016 01: 47
    +3
    it should look like this bully
  47. Papapg
    Papapg 7 January 2016 10: 49
    0
    Apparently, this is the preparation of public opinion, in the future, the supply of modern surface-to-air missiles, and it will seem clear to whom to turn the arrows. Most of the militants are monkeys with a grenade, uneducated armed infantrymen. Reanimating an obsolete product is not so difficult. In the final version, for example, a rocket, is a device that reacts to external stimuli, either from the seeker, or from some other "irritant", a little bit of the "young technician" s savvy and who didn’t hide - I’m not to blame, Another thing is the probability of getting hit noticeably worse but the moral aspect will "kill" everyone else. Now it is clear what should be expected in the future, it is not clear from whom, this should be followed and prevented.
  48. PVOSV
    PVOSV 7 January 2016 13: 10
    0
    disagree, we were deceived!
    YouTube video launch of MANPADS with a "homemade" NIP (ground power source) - pay attention to the wires and the switch in the hands of the "scientist-inventor" at the beginning of the video. the whole invention comes down to connecting the battery. The rocket flies straight without maneuvering, no guidance.
  49. kadochnikov
    kadochnikov 7 January 2016 19: 04
    0
    I don’t think they can create something like that. and why, when everything has already been invented and can be bought. at worst beg for sponsors. a hint that portable production systems of someone’s production could soon be felt. a threat to the place and time taking into account the successes of our aviation.
  50. PatriotKZ
    PatriotKZ 8 January 2016 07: 10
    0
    Can't barmales laughing invent a rocket that can shoot down planes.