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Iraqi and Syrian fronts: the war will become fiercer and spread to Turkey

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Iraqi and Syrian fronts: the war will become fiercer and spread to TurkeyGiven the war in Yemen, the Middle Eastern front remains the main front of world war. Despite a number of tactical successes of the government troops, the war in Iraq and Syria will only get worse, will be further developed. At the end of 2015, the media reported on the release of the city of Ramadi in Iraq from ISIL (a banned organization in Russia) as a fundamental military success of the Iraqi troops. In Syria, government forces, with the support of Russia, Iranian and Lebanese allies, were able to achieve a number of tactical successes in the provinces of Aleppo, Latakia and the suburbs of Damascus.


However, it is impossible to suppress the ideology and social base of Islamic radicalism, jihadism (“black Islam”) by military means. The project "Caliphate" continues to gain momentum and spread. Neither in Iraq nor in Syria, a real breakthrough is foreseen in the near future. The war is becoming more violent, attracting new players, resources, and is entering a stage of civilizational and religious confrontation. Thus, the Sunni-Shiite conflict and the South-North fault clearly come to the fore.

Iraq

Restoring control of the Iraqi army over Ramadi does not really matter. Firstly, ISIS units do not cling to objects. There is no "Stalingrad." Mobility is paramount. Secondly, it is more a PR action than a real combat operation. Millionth city does not take a day, when it is defended. In general, the struggle for a huge city has been reduced to the seizure of several buildings where state institutions were located. Militants of the desert - the province of Anbar, and may give so, do not mind. Also, they can and soon repel a sudden blow. Third, Baghdad finally loses control over the population. The Sunnis were completely disillusioned with the government, that is, the social base of the militants was not only preserved, but also strengthened.

The peculiarity of the war in Iraq is the split of the population into Shiites, Sunnis and Kurds. And the bulk of the population, except for the Kurds, who have created their own state in the state (Iraqi Kurdistan), is completely passive to what is happening. People are tired of continuous war, which with a few interruptions stretches from 1991 year. They are more occupied with questions of supply, survival, and not “politics”.

Therefore, Baghdad cannot defeat the “Caliphate” militants, having a great advantage in manpower and equipment, assistance from Iranian military experts, as well as air support from the Western coalition. The modern Iraqi army, despite the brutal defeats (like the fall of Mosul), was not able to "get in shape." Unlike Saddam’s army, an industrial-type army, it was created by the Americans as a military-police force. Such an army can successfully crush the speeches of the population, but cannot withstand the militants who are motivated and have combat experience. Not surprisingly, government forces suffered heavy defeats from jihadists in 2014 when they attacked the provinces of Anbar, Ninawa (Nineveh) and captured Mosul, Falluja, Tikrit and Ramadi.

Now the Iraqi troops support the Shiite militias and Iranian military experts, part of the responsibility in the fight in the IG took the Kurds. However, system problems are not cured. Firstly, the level of command has seriously decreased compared to Saddam's times, as earlier, as part of the Debascation, qualified military men were expelled from the army. Many of them went into opposition to the ruling regime and joined the ranks of ISIL. As a result, in planning, the IS command is much better than the command of the Iraqi army.

Secondly, the level of motivation of government troops is much lower than that of jihadists. There is no idea for which Iraqi soldiers are ready to die. The Iraqi army has a small number of well-trained units, including police. But they are capable of guarding only part of Baghdad and closing gaps. For a war with tens of thousands of militants and the control of vast desert territories, they are catastrophically insufficient. Shiite militias are more motivated, but they are not very controlled by military commanders and often wage their own war against Sunni tribes. Which brings the war to the level of the Sunni-Shiite conflict. Local tribes are accused of aiding the terrorists, punitive operations are being carried out against them, they are being expelled from their homes, pressure is exerted on Sunni sheikhs. It is clear that this only strengthens the position of the jihadists. The previously neutral tribes oppose the government.

Thirdly, Baghdad should simultaneously solve the problem of the actual independence of Iraqi Kurdistan. The Iraqi command part of the effort is directed at preventing the Kurds from acting in the north of Iraq on their own. Therefore, Baghdad is constantly dispersing forces and can not concentrate them to fight the troops of the IG. So, Ramadi attacked exclusively Shiites - the Iraqi government was able to mobilize only Shiite militias to attack the IG. But, since there was no resistance, one incomplete brigade calmly entered the city.

In addition, Baghdad cannot fully rely on Tehran. The Iranian intervention causes discontent among the Sunni population, the Western coalition and the Arab monarchies.

As a result, the whole war looks like a kind of "Makhnovshchina" - both sides are raiding foreign territory. The population is so passive that several hundred or thousands of well-armed militants can control vast territories and million-plus cities. Battles are fought only on several directions by percussion companies with several units of armored vehicles and artillery. Jihadists are actively using car-tachanki with heavy weapons.

In general, Baghdad does not have any intelligible concept of military actions and a plan for the restoration of liberated territories, reconciliation of religious and ethnic groups. Goals are replaced by a process. As a result, Iraq continues to collapse, and the war can last almost infinitely. The Sunni-Shiite fault intensified. External players are also not interested in rebuilding a strong Iraqi state. Thus, real successes on the Iraqi front are not foreseen in the near future, the war with the Islamists can last indefinitely. Prospects for ordinary people the most bleak. The project “Caliphate” in such conditions for a significant part of the population of Iraq looks like an alternative.

Syria

Russia's direct participation in the Syrian war saved Damascus from military defeat and part of the Syrian population from genocide. The Russian Air Force and Navy supported the Syrian army counteroffensive. However, Syrian troops are bleeding from several years of war. Support for the Russian Air Force does not guarantee victory "on the ground." Therefore, apparently, the Russian participation risks becoming protracted.

The war in Syria will continue. The “caliphate” will not go anywhere, and government forces are unlikely to be able to regain control over most of the country in the near future. Apparently, Turkey, Saudi Arabia and Qatar will continue to support "their" militants. Despite the fact that the situation in the region affects negatively the sponsors of international terrorism themselves.

There is a formalization of the division of Syria into several unequal ethnic and religious parts. The non-religious and non-ethnic ideology of “Arab socialism” of the Baath party, which has long cemented the Syrian state, has been destroyed. Whole groups of people leave areas surrounded by government troops and move in an organized manner in the north-west direction - closer to the Turkish border. It is possible that jihadist forces previously scattered on several fronts are finally localized on the border with Turkey, not only militarily, but also as a population.

In this case, the fierceness of hostilities will increase. In addition, it is obvious that the wave of chaos will cover Turkey, which from the very beginning actively intervened in the affairs of Syria. Informal participation in the Syrian war, support for militants, the creation of supply bases, sanatoriums and clinics for Islamists on their territory, support for Syrian Turkmen and pressure on Syrian Kurds, the arrival of millions of refugees, all this destabilized Turkey. It is also worth remembering about the intervention of the Turkish troops in Iraq (Iraqi Kurdistan) and the struggle against the Kurds in Turkey itself. Repression of Islamists in Syria itself to the border with Turkey will only add kerosene. The war in Syria will expand towards the territories of Turkish Kurdistan.

How can Russia strengthen government forces? First, it is necessary to strengthen the air force in Syria, including attack helicopters. Secondly, Russia can create a training camp in the free territory and train battalion tactical groups of the Syrian army there, saturating them with Russian equipment and weapons. Thirdly, to help the Syrian army close the border of Turkey and Jordan, where the militants are fairly free to move. Without support from abroad, fresh militants, weapons, ammunition and gang equipment will be easier to defeat. Fourthly, the formation of a volunteer corps is possible. With his help, we will be able to conduct training for the combat core of the Russian army (with experience of war) and experience various equipment and weapons in wartime conditions. Once we are involved in this war, then it must be won. And Syria must become our strategic stronghold in the Middle East.

It is worth noting that Russia's participation in the war in Syria led to an increase in strategic risks associated with the unpredictable situation in the Middle East region itself. The main trouble can be expected from the sharp actions of regional players. So, already collapsed 20-year partnership of Russia and Turkey. Moreover, there was even the threat of a growing conflict. There is a threat from the Arab monarchies of the Persian Gulf, which provide support to terrorist groups in Iraq and Syria. There is the threat of a full-scale conflict between the Shiite and Sunni worlds, Iran and Saudi Arabia. The situation may change in unexpected ways.

Yemen

Blitzkrieg coalition led by Saudi Arabia failed. Saudi Arabia began the war to prevent the Hussites (Shiite rebels), who formed an alliance with the retired President Saleh, to establish control over the entire territory of Yemen. As a result, Iran could get an important bridgehead on the Arabian Peninsula. Riyadh could not allow this.

Despite the complete superiority of the coalition led by Saudi Arabia over the militias of the tribes, Riyadh could only stop the vicious movement of the Hussites. In turn, the Shiite rebels retained strong positions in Yemen and transferred the war to the territory of Saudi Arabia. In the future, the defeat of Saudi Arabia in this war inevitably leads to the beginning of the processes of disintegration on the Arabian Peninsula. The destruction of the strategic alliance with the United States; the fall in oil prices, which leads to the destabilization of the mono-economy of Saudi Arabia; support for terrorists in Iraq and Syria (with the IG transformed into an enemy of the Saudis); the war in Yemen, with its transition to the territory of the SA; the conflict with Iran, with the prospect of its escalation, all this condemns the kingdom to collapse.
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  1. The black
    The black 7 January 2016 07: 46
    37
    What Amer has been trying for so long can happen !!! Great war WHERE PLEASANT away from their shores !!! To write off debts with small conflicts around the world is no longer possible !!! But to cash in on the grief of people in both the first and second is their dream !!! I won’t be surprised if they put a lot of effort into bleeding the state !!
    1. Cap.Morgan
      Cap.Morgan 7 January 2016 10: 29
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      How to write off 18 trillion for a war somewhere in Asia or Africa? What does it mean to write off? We shouldn’t tell anyone because somewhere the navels got into a fight?
      This is unconvincing.
      Another issue to rise in military supplies. But there is no one there to sell planes for half a billion each. They are ready to receive jihad mobility, jeeps, and even then for nothing.
      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 7 January 2016 11: 37
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        When the Saudis are completely involved in the war, no one will even think about giving them their denyuzhku. Too many countries will try to tear the skin from these fat sloths, who imagine themselves to be the navel of the earth. And 100% that the SGA will try to take their oil under their control. And others will not lag behind them. Crushed Arabia into parts like Nazi Europe.
        1. Canep
          Canep 7 January 2016 16: 45
          0
          News !!!!!! The Saudis bombed the Iranian embassy in Yemen.
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      2. guard
        guard 7 January 2016 12: 09
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        Cap.Morgan RU Today, 10:29 ↑ New
        How to write off 18 trillion for a war somewhere in Asia or Africa? What does it mean to write off? We shouldn’t tell anyone because somewhere the navels got into a fight?
        This is unconvincing.
        Another issue to rise in military supplies. But there is no one there to sell planes for half a billion each. They are ready to receive jihad mobility, jeeps, and even then for nothing.





        18 trillion dollars are clearly not going to give, not for this they took!
        They won’t be able to write off the entire amount of debts right away, and they won’t say that we do not owe anyone!
        For example, Libya had:
        2013 about 120 billion dollars
        2015 about 105 billion dollars.
        Where does the money go? Perhaps some are written off, some are used to finance controlled chaos (IS training bases in Libya), if everything works out for them, there will be less and less debtors.
      3. BARKHAN
        BARKHAN 7 January 2016 20: 12
        +6
        Quote: Cap.Morgan
        How to write off 18 trillion for a war somewhere in Asia or Africa? What does it mean to write off? We shouldn’t tell anyone because somewhere the navels got into a fight?
        This is unconvincing.
        Another issue to rise in military supplies. But there is no one there to sell planes for half a billion each. They are ready to receive jihad mobility, jeeps, and even then for nothing.

        Everything is correct, but do not forget about the consequences of a big war in Africa or Asia, and even more so in the Middle East ... Then so many "refugees" will run to Europe that the current situation will seem like a romantic walk. And these "refugees" will deliver the "Caliphate" burghers who swam in fat right on the threshold. And Europe will blaze. And everyone will get it for the most not spoil ... And then the refugees Europeans will rush to Russia, not slowing down in the "nezalezhnaya" ...
        It is precisely in the midst of the massacre that a new currency will be introduced in the United States, and the printed mass of dollars will be piled up in a large heap in the middle of Europe ... so to speak, "repay the debt."
        Well, and then they will give Europe a loan, in a new currency, to restore the "old woman". If there is something to restore.
    2. Starfish
      Starfish 7 January 2016 10: 50
      -8
      "What Amer has been trying to achieve for so long can happen !!!"

      it is not America at all striving for a great war. she is just a tool in achieving this goal.

      "Since we got involved in this war ..." "It is worth noting that Russia's participation in the war in Syria has led to an increase in strategic risks ..."

      key phrases in the article. and whether it is in our interests in the strategic plan, I personally have no confidence in this. and our media and "analysts" do not really convince me ... I doubt themselves, and, accordingly, what they say.
    3. seti
      seti 7 January 2016 11: 15
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      And the idea with a Volunteer Corps or some kind of hired organization that our special services control or oversee is not bad. She can transfer equipment and weapons. Recruit volunteers and secondment specialists. That is, use as instructors and officially participate in battles. There will be more sense. There it is not necessary to attract only immigrants from the CIS, to recruit those who know how and want to fight. There are many of them all over the world. You can recruit foreigners with extensive military experience.
      The war in Syria will end. These guys can be used in other places, in general, to do something like our Foreign Legion or a private military company. Conversations have been going on for a long time but things are still there. The idea is so good for me.
      1. NIKNN
        NIKNN 7 January 2016 11: 59
        +3
        Quote: seti
        And the idea with a Volunteer Corps or some kind of hired organization that our special services control or oversee is not bad. She can transfer equipment and weapons. Recruit volunteers and secondment specialists. That is, use as instructors and officially participate in battles. There will be more sense. There it is not necessary to attract only immigrants from the CIS, to recruit those who know how and want to fight. There are many of them all over the world. You can recruit foreigners with extensive military experience.
        The war in Syria will end. These guys can be used in other places, in general, to do something like our Foreign Legion or a private military company. Conversations have been going on for a long time but things are still there. The idea is so good for me.

        The fact is that in order to solve the problems of the East, the Foreign Legion or a private military company needs to fight with America (and just grind people and help the United States continue the war). We are repeating the experience of volunteers in Spain ...
        Since then. request
        1. Basarev
          Basarev 7 January 2016 17: 17
          +2
          You can not fight with the United States. It is enough to crank there a small thermidor. The attempt on Reagan showed that this is quite possible. Meanwhile, security in those years was much better than today's lazy critters.
        2. OlegLex
          OlegLex 9 January 2016 19: 35
          +1
          It’s not entirely true that the volunteer corps cannot be compared with PMCs or a foreign legion, since in the first case the state can indirectly and can control a combat formation not belonging to it but cannot set tasks and control their implementation, in the second case comparison with a foreign legion is generally not acceptable firstly, they are absolutely state troops, and secondly, these are troops consisting of non-state citizens. The volunteer corps is primarily a military unit that consists of warriors motivated by the idea of ​​state patriotism in one form or another (read the defenders of the Fatherland) who are ready to fight not only for a fixed salary, but also to achieve their goals, in addition, the DC can be provided with any weapons and any technical providing and at the same time not be directly indicating a military presence, that is, it allows political maneuvers to be performed. Yes, to some extent, this will be a repetition of the Spanish experience, but the fact of the matter is that it is the Spanish experience that will allow us to take into account old mistakes.
          I don’t understand the indication of the need for a direct clash with the American army, which the NIKNN did not want to say with this, since Russia does not and did not have a goal to fight America in Syria. but in fulfilling the tasks of geopolitics, it’s quite acceptable to put pressure on the impudent red face.
      2. Al_oriso
        Al_oriso 8 January 2016 08: 30
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        The idea may be a good one, only in the Middle East it is difficult to determine who is the enemy, who is the friend of the enemy, who is the enemy of the enemy ... If you aim at Islam, you can fall into Husite, or Sunni, or Saudi, or Shiite, or no one knows where else.
        East, this is the case.
    4. Oleg Lavrov
      Oleg Lavrov 7 January 2016 19: 25
      +2
      The cowardly Saudis are afraid that their Shiites will unite with the Iraqi Shiites, and they will take the oil away from them, the Americans wrinkle their nose already after execution, besides, the United States itself increased production ... here are the Saudis and use Daesh techniques for atrocities with executions, because they so much money was swallowed in Daesh and the war in Syria, and Russia and its VKS took all their billions to the wind ... The USA, the instigators of Saudi Arabia at low oil prices, are now betraying their partners again ... here are the Saudis and are shaking !!
    5. Andrey Petrov47
      Andrey Petrov47 8 January 2016 22: 35
      +1
      Long live the free and independent Kurdistan!
      1. ty60
        ty60 9 January 2016 21: 42
        0
        But this is possible, and the root of evil, and a real way out of the situation. To support specifically the Kurdish autonomy, including the Turkish one. Another better-united Kurdistan
    6. Maz
      Maz 10 January 2016 00: 27
      +2
      And you don’t think that Eurasia as a continent belongs more to Russia, China and India. And on this basis, the Union of the Three Great Powers is quite logical. Where India is the most real partner than China.
  2. venaya
    venaya 7 January 2016 07: 46
    +3
    The war is getting fiercer, attracting new players

    Thank you for the article. Many decades of unresolved issues in the Middle East, plus the interests of external players, cause such a complicated combination of forces of various warring parties.
    1. SSR
      SSR 8 January 2016 01: 18
      0
      Quote: venaya
      The war is getting fiercer, attracting new players

      Thank you for the article. Many decades of unresolved issues in the Middle East, plus the interests of external players, cause such a complicated combination of forces of various warring parties.

      A fly in the ointment. The article is nothing. Absolutely, the author divided Iraq into the same Kurdistan, but kept silence that Baghdad’s weapon is the Russian Federation, it only transmits Baghdad-Kurds and does not imply 3 parties and means that there is an agreement between the Kurds and Baghdad.
  3. avvg
    avvg 7 January 2016 07: 46
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    As long as there are hotbeds of terror (the US, the DAC, Qatar and Turkey) and help terrorists, "Baghdad will not be calm."
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    2. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 7 January 2016 08: 32
      +7
      Of course, we won't hit the USA, but the Saudis, Qatar and Turkey can be put in their place. Now the fight against Daesh or ISIS is conducted mainly with armed groups, which periodically change (rotation) and receive funding and support. As Sasha Samsonov correctly noted, the rear of the "caliphate" is provided by the SA, Qatar, etc. It is necessary to beat on the sources of funding and, which is important - ideology. I don't know how, but you need to hit them.
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      2. siberalt
        siberalt 7 January 2016 11: 50
        -1
        The turmoil will begin in Turkey (which is inevitable), then the Saudi-Qatari sheikhs will receive a full paragraph. On the other hand, NATO will begin to creep at the seams, and then the EU. Nature takes its own, including the third World.
        1. Nikoha.2010
          Nikoha.2010 8 January 2016 00: 32
          +2
          Quote: siberalt
          The turmoil will begin in Turkey

          Oleg, devastation is only in their heads. My son wants and will go to
          Ryazan Higher Airborne Command School! Will do!
    3. dmi.pris
      dmi.pris 7 January 2016 08: 38
      +3
      Maybe send them to Mars? It will be easier for Earth ... just kidding. In general, until the war comes to their home, these countries (or rather governments) are incurable, they will play their "rotten" card ..
    4. valokordin
      valokordin 7 January 2016 10: 39
      +4
      Quote: avvg
      As long as there are hotbeds of terror (the US, the DAC, Qatar and Turkey) and help terrorists, "Baghdad will not be calm."

      We need until the end of the IG to stand in Syria and at the same time mobilize our economy. And the President to make a choice or country or Medvedev government. We won’t raise the country with this government; they can only sell and privatize.
  4. aszzz888
    aszzz888 7 January 2016 07: 54
    +3
    The Saudis flooded all-in and, campaigning, to win them in this war quickly and simply - does not shine.
  5. Magic archer
    Magic archer 7 January 2016 07: 55
    +4
    Article plus. But all the same a couple of questions arose.
    1. Not so long ago, an infa went through RBC about how much it costs one day of a military operation in Syria. The figure came out approximately 2,5 million dollars. If according to the author to increase the volume of arms deliveries and the number of troops, then the numbers will increase significantly. And in the current difficult financial situation, too expensive.
    2.Why does Iran not openly enter into conflict? After all, with its help, the igil would have been destroyed long ago, or wasn’t joining the war connected with the Saudis and their allies?
    1. Tatar 174
      Tatar 174 7 January 2016 08: 15
      +2
      Quote: Magic Archer
      Why doesn’t Iran openly enter into conflict? After all, with its help, the igil would have been destroyed long ago! Or isn’t joining the war connected with the Saudis and their allies?

      Most likely it is, it is afraid of the Saudis and someone else from the American flock coming into conflict ...
    2. Phantom Revolution
      Phantom Revolution 7 January 2016 09: 26
      10
      Quote: Magic Archer
      1. Not so long ago, an infa went through RBC about how much it costs one day of a military operation in Syria. The figure came out approximately 2,5 million dollars. If according to the author to increase the volume of arms deliveries and the number of troops, then the numbers will increase significantly. And in the current difficult financial situation, too expensive.

      In fact, there is basically a cancellation of shells for which an expiration date is suitable, and a war on its territory will come out more expensive.

      Quote: Magic Archer
      2.Why does Iran not openly enter into conflict? After all, with its help, the igil would have been destroyed long ago, or wasn’t joining the war connected with the Saudis and their allies?

      Apparently at the moment they can’t openly fight with everyone, because rearmament as such has died out against the backdrop of sanctions, and the next in terms of offensive weapons will be possible no sooner than in 5 years.
      1. Dryuya2
        Dryuya2 7 January 2016 10: 45
        -1
        Quote: Phantom Revolution
        Quote: Magic Archer
        1. Not so long ago, an infa went through RBC about how much it costs one day of a military operation in Syria. The figure came out approximately 2,5 million dollars. If according to the author to increase the volume of arms deliveries and the number of troops, then the numbers will increase significantly. And in the current difficult financial situation, too expensive.
        In fact, there is basically a cancellation of shells for which an expiration date is suitable, and a war on its territory will come out more expensive.

        just a screen
        http://glav.su/forum/5-military/2237/offset/32500/
    3. sa-ag
      sa-ag 7 January 2016 10: 26
      +7
      Quote: Magic Archer
      2. Why does Iran not openly enter into conflict?

      because the sanctions will be returned in full
    4. Rivares
      Rivares 7 January 2016 19: 02
      +3
      Quote: Magic Archer
      1. Not so long ago, infa passed on RBC how much it costs one day of a military operation in Syria

      Be careful with RBC! They are the fifth column. Most of their publications, explicitly or indirectly, pour slop on our country. And how they Russophobia! At the end of the line rbc.ru replace ua, you will discover a lot of new things for yourself. Before the Bandera coup, they could freely go to the Ukrov page, now they have closed it)) Not a "censor" of course, but Joseph Goebbels would be proud ...
      For example, today they wrote "Donetsk again met the New Year in the occupation of the self-proclaimed" DPR "
    5. Andrey Draganov
      Andrey Draganov 7 January 2016 19: 52
      +5
      RBC do not trust much they have a lot of pro-Western statues take a closer look.
  6. s.melioxin
    s.melioxin 7 January 2016 07: 58
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    Since we got involved in this war, we must win it. And Syria should become our strategic stronghold in the Middle East.
    The truth is one, two. Not for that they took part in order to fight, but in order to win. The rest makes no sense. THEY won, and WE will continue.
  7. Korsar4
    Korsar4 7 January 2016 08: 01
    +1
    It looks like Syria can share. The city of Gyor-ez-Zor was beautiful.
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 7 January 2016 08: 44
      +6
      He then interferes with the division of Syria, the government troops are holding on there heroically. Isn't that why the Pendos like "accidentally" bombed the positions of the SAA troops, and immediately after that the jihadists went on the attack?
  8. Same lech
    Same lech 7 January 2016 08: 02
    0
    The modern Iraqi army, despite the brutal defeats (such as the fall of Mosul), was not able to "get in shape." It, unlike the army of Saddam, an industrial-type army, was created by the Americans as a military-police force. Such an army can successfully crush the performance of the population, but can not resist the militants motivated and having combat experience.


    True, the motivation of the IRAK soldiers is low and the combat efficiency is also unimportant.
  9. midshipman
    midshipman 7 January 2016 08: 18
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    I had to go on business trips in Libya. The country was beautiful and stable until Gorbachev and Yeltsin appeared in our country. Iraq was the same country, according to my colleagues who were there on business trips.
    Everything that A. Samsonov outlined can happen. Our recommendations will not change anything. Remember the political situation before 1941. Remember how one figure from England declared to his people that after Munich he brought the peace pact. And two years later, England was already at war, and all of Europe and the USSR were drawn into the World War. I have the honor.
  10. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 7 January 2016 08: 18
    +1
    all this condemns the kingdom to collapse.

    Yes, the faster the better (my personal opinion). The existence of the SA only strengthens the confrontation in this region and the "breeding" of bandits of all stripes. And so far only one benefits from all this - the United States.
  11. yuriy55
    yuriy55 7 January 2016 08: 39
    +1
    Iraqi and Syrian fronts: the war will become fiercer and spread to Turkey


    One thing will happen for sure if the war spreads to Turkey - it will be brutal ...
  12. parusnik
    parusnik 7 January 2016 08: 49
    +5
    The coalition blitzkrieg led by Saudi Arabia failed.... The Saudis in Yemen got stuck tightly. Nobody could cope with Yemen, not even the Angles, with their army and the experience of colonial wars .., and even more so ... the Saudis don’t really believe in the collapse of the KSA .. but the Saudi economy will not withstand the stress ..
  13. Platonich
    Platonich 7 January 2016 08: 55
    -6
    Maybe in vain Russia got into this whirl! It looks like now for many years we are provided with a testing (God forbid) training ground!
    1. Siberia 9444
      Siberia 9444 7 January 2016 09: 18
      +6
      It's not for nothing that we got in there. Kama warrior and kama and mother are dear to us. We are for the survival of our civilization. (we look at Europe) And sooner or later, these jackals (daish) will climb to us to build a caliphate. So the more we burn there, the less sdes there will be.
  14. dmi.pris
    dmi.pris 7 January 2016 09: 01
    +7
    As for the volunteer corps ... Volunteers are needed first of all in Novorossia. But I think there is no need to protect Arabs - there is no sense in protecting cowards and potential traitors, even on a plausible pretext.
    1. Walking
      Walking 7 January 2016 09: 23
      +1
      Quote: dmi.pris
      As for the volunteer corps ... Volunteers are needed first of all in Novorossia. But I think there is no need to protect Arabs - there is no sense in protecting cowards and potential traitors, even on a plausible pretext.


      It’s better to beat the enemy on his land than on your own or you want them to come to you.
      1. dmi.pris
        dmi.pris 7 January 2016 09: 38
        +4
        I agree ... But you would voluntarily go to war on the land of the Arabs, knowing that at any moment they can abandon their positions (this is the best case). You need examples - During the Arab-Israeli war, the air defense positions were hot-reflected the raid "Phantoms "and it is necessary to reload the launcher, and these numbers have already disappeared behind the dune. Our specialists rushed to charge, the guys died in this battle.
        1. Cap.Morgan
          Cap.Morgan 7 January 2016 10: 55
          +2
          They still perform the prayer clearly in time. Throw vintari, and asses up.
          Well, the service is the same. At six o’clock in the evening there is no one in the location of the unit. All for women.
          One Libyan veteran was telling.
        2. Shark Lover
          Shark Lover 7 January 2016 15: 07
          +5
          The example of Afghanistan. God forbid to have behind, to cover the troops of the "green" (the army of DRRA), during joint operations, we did not even pay attention to them, on the contrary. I do not argue that there were very combat-ready units, but this is no longer the army of the state, but the units of the bloodlines on the side of the state. The only thing that made them stubbornly fight and stand to the end was "no where to run")))) (this is about the regular army) and then fraternization took place, trade in everything that can be resisted (in remote fortresses) East is a very unreliable business, so the flag in the hands, let them gnaw, and we will support, but not vice versa.
      2. dmi.pris
        dmi.pris 7 January 2016 09: 43
        +2
        We need military specialists who are competent in their field, it is necessary to block financial flows (no money, no war). Volunteers are certainly good, but not in the Arab world ..
      3. sa-ag
        sa-ag 7 January 2016 10: 34
        +2
        Quote: Hiking
        It’s better to beat the enemy on his land than on your own or you want them to come to you.

        Historically, it so happened that all wars that "beat the enemy with little blood and on its territory" ended in nothing - Spain 1936, China since 1927, Afghanistan, and with Syria, this is how to treat the symptoms without bothering to eliminate the cause (who was prevented by Arab socialism ?), while the wars that began on their territory always ended in complete victory over the enemy
        1. Cap.Morgan
          Cap.Morgan 7 January 2016 10: 51
          +4
          I do not agree with you.
          Russia tried to stop Napoleon participating in several wars in Europe.
          It was not possible to stop the great emperor, but at least the army gained invaluable experience, which later helped to defeat the French.
          Half a century before, Frederick the Great was stopped. It is on the territory of the enemy.
          How history would go do not intervene then Russia is hard to imagine. Probably the German Reich with all the problems would have arisen a hundred years earlier.
          1. sa-ag
            sa-ag 7 January 2016 17: 01
            0
            Quote: Cap.Morgan
            Russia tried to stop Napoleon participating in several wars in Europe.
            Stop the great emperor failed

            By this you only confirm my words
            1. Cap.Morgan
              Cap.Morgan 9 January 2016 10: 13
              0
              The fact that Napoleon could not be stopped speaks only about the scale of this person.
              Napoleon was a military genius, the most outstanding commander of the time.

              You forget about another stage in the life of the emperor, known as 100 days.
              Napoleon then returned from St. Helena, entered Paris and began feverishly to gather troops. The allies immediately set out on a campaign. An Anglo-Dutch-Prussian coalition was formed immediately. The Russian army also went on a campaign from Petersburg. It all ended at Waterloo. Not this time Napoleon managed to stop.
      4. Press 314
        Press 314 8 January 2016 07: 58
        +1
        What a beautiful mantra. Although it looks like something. And he remembered: "If the commies return to power, there will be blood." Somewhere 1992-1996.
    2. 72jora72
      72jora72 7 January 2016 15: 50
      0
      -protect cowards and potential traitors does not make sense, even under a plausible pretext.
      Who are you talking about now?
  15. Siberia M 54
    Siberia M 54 7 January 2016 09: 07
    +3
    And in the photo Abrams is on. Beautifully on!
    1. padded jacket
      padded jacket 7 January 2016 17: 05
      +2
      Quote: Siberia M 54
      And in the photo Abrams is on. Beautifully on!

      And there is such a truth, it is not clear who is standing on it
  16. Alexander 3
    Alexander 3 7 January 2016 09: 10
    +3
    The sowing wind will reap the storm.
  17. Walking
    Walking 7 January 2016 09: 29
    0
    They made a fire and now they can’t put it out.
  18. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 7 January 2016 09: 33
    11
    “Firstly, ISIS units do not cling to objects. No 'Stalingrad'.
    Mobility is paramount. "////

    How cling!

    ISIS declares itself as a state. With territories, economics,
    city ​​halls, taxes, services, etc. Therefore, control over cities has for
    them of fundamental importance. Without cities, they immediately turn into a second
    Al Qaeda is just another international terrorist organization.
  19. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 7 January 2016 09: 46
    +9
    "It [the Iraqi army], unlike Saddam's army of industrial type,
    created by the Americans as a military-police force. "/////

    Saddam's army was recruited from only the Sunnis, and the current from the Shiites.
    The core of ISIS was made by former officers of the army defeated by the Americans
    Saddam, people with good military experience who decided that under the banner of a radical
    Islam is easier to defeat.
    And in the new "Shiite" army of Iraq, there are no officers and sergeants with experience. And the privates have never before
    did not hold weapons in their hands. Therefore, they suffered heavy losses from the first battles with ISIS.
    In the future, a mixed army will have to be made in Iraq: from moderate Sunnis and moderate
    Shiites. But this is the future ...
    1. DobryAAH
      DobryAAH 7 January 2016 10: 21
      +2
      reliably
      Islamists hoisted Israeli flag in Syrian Homs
      http://riafan.ru/494438-islamisty-podnimali-v-sirijskom-homse-flag-izrailya
      Oh guys guys! Well, why is it so stupid to frown? You cannot give important things to the hands of stupid people.
      1. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 7 January 2016 16: 12
        +2
        "Islamists raised the flag of Israel in Syrian Homs" ///

        Here is how? usually burned ... there were no lighters laughing

        Well, we can easily be "accused" of helping President Assad. wink
        How does cargo from Latakia go deep into the Middle East?
        Through the Israeli port of Haifa, by the way ... then
        on wagons in Jordan and beyond ...
        1. DobryAAH
          DobryAAH 7 January 2016 16: 54
          +1
          Well, we can easily be "accused" of helping President Assad.

          No need to make excuses, shove with a drill.
          By the way, I did not blame you, I state the fact with the flag.
          1. Neksel
            Neksel 7 January 2016 18: 12
            0
            Quote: Good AAAH
            Well, we can easily be "accused" of helping President Assad.

            No need to make excuses, shove with a drill.
            By the way, I did not blame you, I state the fact with the flag.


            There is no "fact" as such. They didn't even bother to insert a photo, even if it was photographed, into the article. And who told what and to whom, but in the retelling of Mr. Kamal Jafar .... in short, a source of dubious veracity.
            By the way, the surname Jafar, as far as I know, is more common among Shiites. So there is no need to talk about objectivity.
      2. padded jacket
        padded jacket 7 January 2016 16: 58
        +4
        Quote: Good AAAH
        Islamists hoisted Israeli flag in Syrian Homs

        There is nothing surprising here:
        Chief Saudi Mufti: “The militants of the Islamic state are Israeli soldiers”
        The chief mufti of Saudi Arabia said in an interview with the local newspaper Okaz that in fact the Islamic State is part of the Israeli military machine. ”
        http://cursorinfo.co.il/news/novosti1/2015/12/30/glavniy-saudovskiy-muftiy--boev
        iki-islamskogo-gosudarstva - eto-izrailskie-soldati /
        1. DobryAAH
          DobryAAH 7 January 2016 19: 29
          0
          Not, well done Israelis, they began to build Great Israel, often with the wrong hands and for the grandmothers of others. They will take up all the oil in their hands. Ho-ro-shoooo !!!!!
          1. padded jacket
            padded jacket 7 January 2016 19: 46
            +1
            Quote: Good AAAH
            No, well done Israelis, they began to build Great Israel, often with the wrong hands and for the wrong people

            It seems that even the most "evil" terrorists do not say anything against Israel - thus confirming once again that he is their "master" and one of their creators smile
    2. sa-ag
      sa-ag 7 January 2016 10: 38
      0
      Quote: voyaka uh
      In the future, a mixed army will have to be made in Iraq: from moderate Sunnis and moderate
      Shiites. But this is the future ...

      Yes, in the light of the intensification of the confessional confrontation, I would say this is a distant future, we need an extra-ethnic, non-confessional unifying idea, something like the Baath Party
      1. samoletil18
        samoletil18 7 January 2016 17: 16
        0
        And where to get Saddam?
        1. sa-ag
          sa-ag 7 January 2016 17: 32
          0
          Quote: samoletil18
          And where to get Saddam?

          From the military
  20. Gray 43
    Gray 43 7 January 2016 09: 47
    +1
    After Saddam, LEADER did not appear in Iraq, and Western standards with their parliaments and presidents do not mean anything in the East, they have always seen and respected FORCE and money. Maybe that's why Assad is so eager to lose, he is the leader of the country, his country will not become a mess. Modern warfare is highly mobile-militants can quickly assemble, and in the case of otvetki, they disperse just as quickly, but it all works as long as there is no control over the borders, you can’t survive without supplying it, local resources are pretty exhausted, and how to make money? There will be no money - ISIS will run into other conflicts, unfortunately, there are enough of them now
    1. sa-ag
      sa-ag 7 January 2016 10: 41
      +1
      Quote: Gray 43
      Maybe that's why Assad is so eager to lose, he is the leader of the country, his country will not become a mess.

      Yes, if it were not for the Russian Aerospace Forces the whole country in a month or two, as you put it "a country in dust", such is he the leader, the leader was his father - Hafez Assad, the leader was Saddam, Gaddafi, i.e. those people who themselves could control the territory, and not with the help of foreign troops
      1. Dart2027
        Dart2027 7 January 2016 15: 56
        +2
        Quote: sa-ag
        the leader was Saddam, Gaddafi, i.e. those people who themselves could control the territory

        Both Saddam and Gaddafi were eventually killed. Syria is fighting not only with Daesh, but with those who stand behind it and no leader will help here - only help from the Russian Federation and China with their military resources
        1. sa-ag
          sa-ag 7 January 2016 16: 56
          0
          Quote: Dart2027
          and no leader will help here

          Mistake, the leader is just the one who will help turn the tide in his favor, without it everything will just fall apart
          1. Dart2027
            Dart2027 7 January 2016 17: 17
            0
            Quote: sa-ag
            the leader is just that

            This is a man capable of uniting the people to fight. But no leader can make his army instantly become the strongest in the world. Syria simply does not have the resources to win the war with NATO.
            1. sa-ag
              sa-ag 7 January 2016 17: 38
              0
              Quote: Dart2027
              Syria simply does not have the resources to win the war with NATO.

              And where is Syria fighting with NATO? Before the conflict, Syria had aviation and at least some anti-aircraft defense, infantry fighting on vehicles, mortars, maybe artillery, without aviation, without electronic warfare, but it is well-motivated and this allowed it to almost complete the matter if not Russian intervention
              1. Dart2027
                Dart2027 7 January 2016 18: 15
                +2
                Quote: sa-ag
                And where is Syria fighting with NATO?

                And Daesh is NATO, or rather its creature. Without support from the United States, it would never have arisen, but they created it and are constantly fueling it.
                .
              2. Rivares
                Rivares 7 January 2016 19: 24
                0
                Quote: sa-ag
                And where is Syria fighting with NATO?

                And about hybrid wars have not heard anything ??? Have you not heard about the scandal in the White House, how were the "volunteers" prepared and equipped against Assad? Where does the cheap oil go from ISIS? In NATO countries, of course, this is a coincidence, and you don't believe in conspiracy theory ...
                But the leaders of Gaddafi and Hussein could not confront NATO. And NATO aviation ironed Libya with impunity - also a coincidence, and gas and oil companies in Libya now only from NATO countries - also a coincidence! Whatever the leader, brute force has not yet been canceled.
                1. sa-ag
                  sa-ag 8 January 2016 06: 35
                  0
                  Quote: Rivares
                  But the leaders of Gaddafi and Hussein could not confront NATO.

                  Here pure intervention was using modern technology, it’s not at all what is now in Syria, absolutely

                  "... Have you heard anything about hybrid wars ???"
                  Oh dear, they just came up with the term hybrid war now (it's such a screen) and use it everywhere, during the war in Afghanistan, the United States also helped Mujahideen through Pakistan, they didn’t really hide it and nobody called it a hybrid war, war and war.
  21. ICT
    ICT 7 January 2016 10: 19
    +4
    spread to Turkey


    somewhere
    1. Garris199
      Garris199 7 January 2016 14: 58
      +1
      What was loaded into the tank, molotov or what? Kurds urgently need to give ATGMs.
  22. Cap.Morgan
    Cap.Morgan 7 January 2016 10: 31
    +2
    The war will end when everyone who is capable of holding weapons is killed - this is a war of extermination. So it was in the 30-year war, so it was during the Napoleonic Wars.
    Napoleon didn’t lose, he just didn’t have any more soldiers ready to fight.
    1. Starfish
      Starfish 7 January 2016 10: 55
      +1
      "this is a war of extermination ..."

      at the root you see dear
      1. Rivares
        Rivares 7 January 2016 19: 28
        +6
        ISOLATE THE 50 RICHEST JEWS AND WAR WILL STOP (G. FORD)
        That's who saw the root)
  23. Cap.Morgan
    Cap.Morgan 7 January 2016 10: 36
    +2
    http://politikus.ru/articles/67011-struktura-momenta.html
    Quite an interesting look of the famous writer Sergei Lukyanenko.

    ... "What are the options for overcoming the crisis?

    1. The United States and Europe are sharply lowering their level of consumption + returning to normal, yes, normal human relations. Spit on tolerance, gay rights and other multiculturalism. The consequences are comparable to war.

    2. The United States and Europe are organizing a war and the looting of Russia.

    3. The United States arrange the death and plunder of Europe. (Except the UK, probably). At the same time, Russia is trying to snatch a little.

    4. The US and Europe are organizing a war and plunder of the Middle East. At the same time, Russia is trying to snatch a little for itself. "...
    1. Vladimir 1964
      Vladimir 1964 7 January 2016 12: 58
      +2
      Quote: Cap.Morgan
      3. The United States arrange the death and plunder of Europe. (Except the UK, probably). At the same time, Russia is trying to snatch a little.
      4. The US and Europe are organizing a war and plunder of the Middle East. At the same time, Russia is trying to snatch a little for itself. "...


      In the absence of other options, I, a colleague, these 3 and 4 points are quite satisfied. wassat
      It’s a joke, of course, but as they say, a colleague, there is a joke in every joke. hi
  24. Vladimir 1964
    Vladimir 1964 7 January 2016 10: 50
    0
    I liked the article, it’s popular and not boring, and the analytics is interesting. But here is the point with directions
    How can Russia strengthen government forces?
    , sorry, colleague Alexander, I personally seemed redundant. Analyzing and discussing this is one thing, and putting forward strategic proposals is somewhat different.
    Nevertheless, the article is interesting. Thanks to the author. hi
  25. VladimS
    VladimS 7 January 2016 11: 24
    0
    1. Not so long ago, an infa went through RBC about how much it costs one day of a military operation in Syria. The figure came out approximately 2,5 million dollars. If according to the author to increase the volume of arms deliveries and the number of troops, then the numbers will increase significantly. And in the current difficult financial situation, too expensive.

    It will be much more expensive if they crush Syria with a whole bunch of enthusiastic victories, rush across the borders of Tajikistan, Uzbekistan ... with the goal, first of all, to wreak havoc in Russia.
    Sitting "on the sidelines" will not work, in any development of events.
    1. 72jora72
      72jora72 7 January 2016 16: 04
      +2
      1. Not so long ago, infa passed on RBC how much it costs one day of a military operation in Syria
      You also give the calculations of Echo of Moscow (echo.msk.ru), and the Dozhd TV Channel (tvrain.ru), there is also an "expert" sitting on an "expert" and driving an expert ...
  26. Friends
    Friends 7 January 2016 11: 37
    +1
    The coalition blitzkrieg led by Saudi Arabia failed.


    He’s so blitzkrieg ... Almost always leads the initiator to a strictly defined place - to the letter J., which cannot be found on geographical maps ...

    Saudis are not the first and, apparently, not the last ...
    1. domiemon
      domiemon 8 January 2016 15: 54
      +1
      Damn, I wanted to plus, but clicked on the minus. excuse me, please
  27. isergil
    isergil 7 January 2016 11: 37
    +1
    Voennoye Obozreniye is the only site where you can take a break from the cries of liberals and traitors to the Motherland.
    1. Kaiten
      Kaiten 7 January 2016 12: 53
      +3
      Quote: isergil
      Voennoye Obozreniye is the only site where you can take a break from the cries of liberals and traitors to the Motherland.

      Are you entom convinced?
      1. MIKHALYCH1
        MIKHALYCH1 7 January 2016 12: 57
        0
        Quote: Kaiten
        Quote: isergil
        Voennoye Obozreniye is the only site where you can take a break from the cries of liberals and traitors to the Motherland.

        Are you entom convinced?

        He is on the right track ... hi I'M SURE!
        1. sa-ag
          sa-ag 7 January 2016 17: 08
          -1
          Quote: MIKHALYCHXNNX
          He is on the right track ...

          Where does the path lead?
  28. isergil
    isergil 7 January 2016 12: 16
    0
    It is necessary to introduce advanced combat technologies in Syria.
    <iframe width="854" height="480" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/rwNzphYHk6s" frameborder="0"
  29. Limon1972
    Limon1972 7 January 2016 12: 29
    +2
    Everyone is talking about escalation .. And, damn it, oil is already cheaper than 33 and a dollar above 75 rubles. Unclear request
    1. Kaiten
      Kaiten 7 January 2016 17: 23
      0
      Quote: Limon1972
      Everyone is talking about escalation .. And, damn it, oil is already cheaper than 33 and a dollar above 75 rubles. Unclear

      The quilted jacket once convinced us Israelis that this inflation was nonsense, the state will compensate you for everything. I generally understood from his words that you almost began to live richer ...
  30. Hammer
    Hammer 7 January 2016 12: 39
    +4
    Quote: isergil
    Voennoye Obozreniye is the only site where you can take a break from the cries of liberals and traitors to the Motherland.

    yeah, and change them to cries of urapatriots
  31. Kaiten
    Kaiten 7 January 2016 12: 47
    +3
    Quote: Good AAAH
    reliably
    Islamists hoisted Israeli flag in Syrian Homs
    http://riafan.ru/494438-islamisty-podnimali-v-sirijskom-homse-flag-izrailya
    Oh guys guys! Well, why is it so stupid to frown? You cannot give important things to the hands of stupid people.


    If 7.40 did not dance, do not set off
  32. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 7 January 2016 13: 06
    0
    We climbed into the Middle East showdown, there are no options, you need to fight to the result. You can’t leave anymore. Turks and Saudis still cannot come to themselves from such impudence. Saudis periodically threaten, then try to bribe. Turks rush about like a louse in a frying pan. I would like our victory, but I think the result will be a compromise.
    1. Kaiten
      Kaiten 7 January 2016 17: 19
      0
      Quote: vladimirvn
      the result will be a compromise.

      Compromise means the division of Syria into several states in accordance with the ethnic majority in the territory
      1. Starfish
        Starfish 7 January 2016 19: 12
        +5
        "Compromise means the division of Syria into several states in accordance with the ethnic majority in a given territory."

        and the state of Israel is secure from the east. from the west, Egypt will also lead to a compromise, and Turkey from the North - so what kind of nonsense will come. then Israel as a state entity will not be threatened. only Israeli citizens will ruin a bunch of terrorists, because you don’t get used to it.

        Libya and Iraq are already gone. Lebanon and Jordan do not count - too small fry. Iran and Saudi Arabia themselves can multiply each other by zero, all that’s left to do is help. how everything goes well for Tel Aviv. fortune smiles in her whole mouth.

        Whether all this happens by accident, that is the question. "He who has a mind, let him understand who has gesheft."
        1. Kaiten
          Kaiten 7 January 2016 23: 43
          +1
          Quote: Starfish
          how everything goes well for Tel Aviv.

          And in the Donbass, as everything for the Jews is successfully developing. It doesn’t matter who wins, the winners in the end will be those in power. And in Russia and in Ukraine, they are the most, parhatokartavenky tribe.
  33. Tektor
    Tektor 7 January 2016 13: 14
    0
    The war in Syria will be protracted exactly until the moment of complete control over the border through which the militants can move. It is possible to close the border with military-technical forces already now, there would be a desire and shock drones, whose task would be not to let anyone in or let out. It is clear that they can drive civilians "into the minefield" for the media effect. Well, that's what the Germans did, so what?
    1. Kaiten
      Kaiten 7 January 2016 17: 27
      0
      Quote: Tektor
      The war in Syria will be protracted until the moment of complete control over the border through which militants can move.

      This is not very realistic, the Alawites are unlikely to be able to control the vast territories inhabited by Sunnis. In fact, Syria was divided on an ethno-religious basis, like Austria-Hungary after the World War II.
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  34. vv3
    vv3 7 January 2016 13: 49
    +2
    A good epic description of a political observer at the level of guerrilla warfare. And his advice at the same level. Gentlemen in the 21st century. I will focus on Syria, the scenario needs to be repeated in other countries, I would like without our direct participation, but with forced assistance ... .Russian troops pass a real exam, and not in exercises, but with a real enemy, though not with the strongest. But over time it will grow stronger. Russia took the first step militarily and stopped ... The solutions are described in all ,, textbooks '' of modern local warfare. The creation of strong points - ground bases. All roads and borders of the state of Syria should be controlled from these bases. To be shot through with artillery, missiles and other means. Use helicopters as a last resort, as in this case it is possible direct contact and casualties. Patrol and capture missions are given to the Syrian army and its allies with a total, i.e. our coordination ... And now we come to the MAIN. All this is possible if we have, eyes and ears. "We need global information control of the entire territory of small Syria. In real time. We need an information center in Syria. Such a center should receive and analyze information from all sources (drones, aircraft, stationary cameras, radars, etc.). Analyze in real time, day and night (constant change of operators) and distribute targets, control their destruction ... If we do not know how to do this or we will not do it (which allows us to save face) we need to leave ... This is just the opinion of a military man, not even a specialist in this area. Just off the sheet ...
  35. Stilet
    Stilet 7 January 2016 16: 02
    +3
    One thing is not clear - if EVERYONE knows that the CA and Qatar are fueling this conflict, why are there no official statements from the Foreign Ministry? Once warned, two warned, and for the third time they banged warning on oil storages and towers - theoretically. It is necessary to pay attention to Yemen, especially since at one time General Bryukhov was an adviser there. He studied all of Yemen up and down. Surely there are documents developed by him at the General Staff. And to be honest, something I can’t believe that nothing is being done by us, the stakes are too high! ISIS must be destroyed.
    1. Cap.Morgan
      Cap.Morgan 8 January 2016 13: 55
      0
      The towers there are not improbably owned by Shell.
      Saudi Arabia, alas, is no worse weapon than ours, besides.
      And many Caucasian extremist groups are controlled by the Saudis.
      The cities of Russia are overflowed with Caucasians, that so far have not exploded the metro in the capital - a pure coincidence. And of course, the excellent work of our special services.
      1. Korsar4
        Korsar4 8 January 2016 14: 25
        +1
        It was Shell that belonged. As soon as the USSR left, the British immediately showed up. And the oil production method was colonial. True, the Syrians held 51% of the shares. Do you think everything changed at once?

        The first words on Syrian soil are Gorbachev. And further long and unprintable.
  36. Papapg
    Papapg 7 January 2016 19: 48
    0
    I agree with some opinions regarding veterans with experience and a desire to shake antiquity, but once you get involved you need to win, there must be a positive result. Modern warfare is not only bloody infantry, it also needs brains with experience. There are many functions that are not active in which help would be very useful to the friendly side.
  37. Undermined ustoev
    Undermined ustoev 8 January 2016 01: 26
    +2
    Fourth, the formation of a volunteer corps is possible.
    Well, well, and then we sing about international debt, and then we say that Russia promised not to start a ground operation. Give them a volunteer corps. They ran away. Yeah, schzzzzzz, carry the saddle.
  38. Yuri V
    Yuri V 8 January 2016 08: 52
    0
    A HERD IS MANAGED BY A SHEPHERD. I would like to gather all the shepherds at one table and ask them about the health of their children, their families and mothers, of course the family is not without a freak, but also a member of the family, where he will be sent there and he will go. I wish all shepherds to choose the right path for the good of their family happiness ..........................
    1. Vladimir Postnikov
      Vladimir Postnikov 8 January 2016 14: 30
      0
      A fairly effective method of propaganda, when someone who calls himself a shepherd (or shepherd), influences the sheep, calling them shepherds. It works on some rams, but this does not save the rams from their fate on the "right path for the benefit of their family happiness." On the contrary, stupid rams are put under the knife first.
  39. garmonist
    garmonist 8 January 2016 09: 48
    +1
    To win this war will be very difficult if the Syrian and Russian armies act in a stereotyped and predictable way. For several years of the war, the militants have adapted well to the tactics used by the army and learned how to withstand this well. They created a network of underground passages and tunnels. They turned all the cities and villages into powerful fortified areas. Actively use suicide bombers in various combinations. In such conditions, non-standard moves can give a very big advantage. Unfortunately, such actions are rarely seen both among the Syrians and ours. Pleased with reports of the use of robotic systems in battle - this is exactly what the bearded do not expect and are not yet ready for. Often they would be so surprised.
  40. neo1200
    neo1200 8 January 2016 11: 49
    +2
    In general, the author is right that in the war in the Middle East, lovers wage war with other lovers, only Russia does not need to send regular army units there, it will be enough advisers.
  41. AdekvatNICK
    AdekvatNICK 8 January 2016 12: 18
    +1
    The United States lives at the expense of its corporate military organization, hence their foreign policy. Push your foreheads on someone and start to arms up. And after the results of the wars, in addition to the profits from weapons, they also weaken countries and regions and get profitable cream in the form of drugs in Afghanistan or oil fields or control above them through second parties
    1. Cap.Morgan
      Cap.Morgan 8 January 2016 13: 48
      0
      Whoever sells weapons there.
      The Gulf monarchies have purchased more than enough of these American weapons.
      Rebels of all colors are unlikely to be able to buy something more expensive than the M-16 and the bazooka. It's not about weapons.
      To be honest, I don’t understand the logic of the states at all. Chaos in the Arab world will not add to corporations income by any means.
  42. Vladimir Postnikov
    Vladimir Postnikov 8 January 2016 14: 19
    +3
    Three months can not block the border with Turkey. The fact that aviation could not be blocked was clear from the very beginning. The failure with the ground operation appeared in the first week of October.
    The creation of strong points based on D-30 artillery batteries is the only effective means of controlling the border while it still exists. Under their cover (batteries), checkpoints and "battalion tactical groups of the Syrian army" can operate. "Chase tanks for terrorists on cars, bicycles, and donkeys" - now this catch phrase can be supplemented by "chasing planes" and "chasing battalion tactical groups." For more details, read the discussion of the unsuccessful (to put it mildly) article "Russian-Syrian border" on the military-industrial complex website (vpk-news) in the "Army" section.
    There, at first, the "local specialists" were also against, but in the end they ended up with another extreme - strong points with naval artillery installations. No need for fantasies. But the work must be done too. Russian aviation aid is inevitably inert. Help from Syrian strongholds should be instant.
    There is nothing more to add. Three-plus months, and only bomb. What are the goals set for the armed forces in Syria? Or I don’t understand something.
    1. padded jacket
      padded jacket 8 January 2016 14: 48
      +1
      In fact, the evil that the United States is doing Turkey Israel SA Qatar in relation to Syria and Iraq should be "punished" these countries breed terrorists and murderers in the region and do not even understand that when these same terrorists go against their creators and this will happen sooner or later it will be late to shout - Help us kill evil bandits and fanatics.
      This is especially true of Israel, which, in words, is an ardent fighter against the terrorist infection and in Delhi their sponsor and patron.
      Defense Secretary Admitted Israel Helps Syrian Rebels
      Defense Minister Moshe Ya'alon says Israel has provided humanitarian aid to rebels in Syria in recent months
      http://cursorinfo.co.il/news/novosti1/2015/06/29/-ministr-oboroni-priznal--chto-

      izrail-pomogaet-siriyskim-povstancam /
      The Israeli armed forces are in constant contact with Syrian militants who are fighting against the regime of Bashar al-Assad. This is stated in the UN report, cited by the Israeli publication Haaretz. Some of these militants may be associated with terrorists from the Islamic State.
      According to the Haaretz newspaper, information on contacts between IDF officers and militants of the Syrian Free Army was published in a report by UN observers who monitor the situation in the Golan Heights. Observers testify that contacts with representatives of the armed Syrian opposition at the border began last year after the radicalization of the conflict in Syria.
      http://www.gazeta.ru/politics/2014/12/07_a_6332201.shtml

      Meanwhile, in Syria itself, fighting continues between its army and the terrorists. Latakia Province.
  43. Chidoryan
    Chidoryan 8 January 2016 18: 30
    -2
    Well, you wanted to raise oil prices. Rejoice, maybe they will fly up, and our economy will last another couple of years)
  44. Alekspel
    Alekspel 8 January 2016 18: 57
    +6
    We are all sitting on the couch, and knocking on the keys are great strategists. Now think about whether our country will pull a war in Syria, with Turkey (if the turmoil starts there) and with Ukraine, and there will definitely start all over again with warming? There won't be enough resources. And amers just need it. They will try to make us fight on all fronts. And what should we put on shoulder straps again in the seventh decade? So when you talk about strategies, think about pulling service in the trenches? Especially those who have "marshal" shoulder straps.
    1. Cap.Morgan
      Cap.Morgan 9 January 2016 10: 25
      +2
      A full-scale war may not pull.
      It’s quite enough to keep the local rebels.
      Assad in Syria, Kurds in Turkey, Novorossia in Ukraine.
    2. ty60
      ty60 9 January 2016 22: 26
      +1
      I’m not up to the Marshals. And not in my seventies. I’ll leave dill from the old Acacia. Perhaps, alas, my former colleagues. Well, this is their choice.
  45. Zefr
    Zefr 8 January 2016 22: 33
    +2
    << In the future, the defeat of Saudi Arabia in this war inevitably leads to the beginning of disintegration processes already on the Arabian Peninsula. >>
    Sheikhs imagined themselves ... mmmm ... well, in general, they imagined kings. Soon camels will go to the desert to graze.
  46. teacher
    teacher 8 January 2016 23: 21
    0
    The war in Syria will expand towards the territories of Turkish Kurdistan.
    the Turks’s war with the PKK has been going on for 30 years, so what does it mean?
  47. acetophenon
    acetophenon 9 January 2016 05: 30
    +2
    I believe that there are now 3 centers of power: the United States, China and Russia. And a serious conflict between any two of them leads to the gain of the third party. Therefore, in the foreseeable future, I see conflicts of low intensity in the military field and "tug of war" in the economic field. bully Wang, so to speak.
  48. surrozh
    surrozh 9 January 2016 09: 54
    +1
    The war "all against all" should be dragged on for a long time, by definition. To create a security zone and cover it with a military base - everything is heading towards this, perhaps.
    1. padded jacket
      padded jacket 9 January 2016 12: 18
      0
      Real Syrian heroes from the Sukur al-Sakra special unit that took part in the rescue of the Russian Su-24 pilot shot down by the Turkish regime:

      Some of those who were awarded by the command of our country for the salvation of our soldier:

      Our and the Syrian military participated in the rescue operation:

      Syrian commandos received our equipment apparently before or after this operation:

  49. kopatich
    kopatich 9 January 2016 17: 09
    0
    Quote: Oleg Lavrov
    The cowardly Saudis are afraid that their Shiites will unite with the Iraqi Shiites, and they will take the oil away from them, the Americans wrinkle their nose already after execution, besides, the United States itself increased production ... here are the Saudis and use Daesh techniques for atrocities with executions, because they so much money was swallowed in Daesh and the war in Syria, and Russia and its VKS took all their billions to the wind ... The USA, the instigators of Saudi Arabia at low oil prices, are now betraying their partners again ... here are the Saudis and are shaking !!


    oil prices can be reduced to a certain limit, they won’t be given away for free either, here the whole question is who will stand it longer, we as an alternative have gas and Europe that loves this gas, I think it is necessary for the Saudis and hedgehog with them to shake the fat in the war, not in vain now they are vomiting on all sides, the theory of controlled chaos in action)))
  50. yuriymos
    yuriymos 9 January 2016 17: 10
    0
    Quote: Cap.Morgan
    How to write off 18 trillion for a war somewhere in Asia or Africa? What does it mean to write off? We shouldn’t tell anyone because somewhere the navels got into a fight?
    This is unconvincing.
    Another issue to rise in military supplies. But there is no one there to sell planes for half a billion each. They are ready to receive jihad mobility, jeeps, and even then for nothing.

    It seems that their task is to create conditions when capital flows to them in the USA by the river, escaping from the fire of war.