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The war of Iran and Saudi Arabia: who will win?

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The execution of 47 "terrorists" in Saudi Arabia, including the Shiite preacher Sheikh Nimr al-Nimr, led to very serious consequences - now the entire region of the Middle East is on the verge of a regional war.

Moreover, what happened looks quite planned: the reaction of Iran and Iranian society were quite predictable, and the chain-breaking breaks in diplomatic relations with the main Shiite country on the part of the Islamic Military Coalition states (Saudi Arabia announced its creation in December 2015) look coordinated in advance. At the moment, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, the United Arab Emirates and Sudan have already announced the severance of diplomatic relations with Iran, the ambassador from Tehran has recalled Kuwait. Saudi Arabia and Bahrain interrupted flights with Iran.

In fact, the indirect war between the "Sunni" and "Shiite" world is already in full swing - Syria, Iraq and Yemen became the main battlefields. Now there is far from zero the likelihood of a large regional war between Shiites, led by Iran, and Sunnis, with a leader in the form of Saudi Arabia. Therefore, it will be interesting to assess the strengths of the parties and the scale of what can happen in such an extremely negative scenario.

Saudi Arabia - “a colossus with feet of clay”?


The armed forces of Saudi Arabia are equipped with the most modern military equipment and in sufficient quantities. The country's military budget ranks 4th in the world, approaching $ 60 billion. The total number of armed forces is 233 thousand people. Ground forces are armed with up to 450 modern American tanks M1A2 Abrams, about 400 M2 Bradley infantry fighting vehicles, more than 2000 armored vehicles and armored personnel carriers, a large number of receiver and rocket artillery, including 50 American multiple launch rocket systems (MLRS) M270. In addition, the Saudi Arabian armed forces are armed with up to 60 Dongfeng-3 ballistic missiles purchased from China. Initially, they were designed to deliver nuclear munitions over distances of up to 2500 km, but in this case they carry high-explosive warheads, and the accuracy of a missile’s hit is very low. There are also rumors about the purchase of more modern Dongfeng-21.

As for the air force (Air Force), they are armed with the American F-152 fighter 15 of various modifications, the European Tornado 81 and the European 32 European Eurofighter Typhoon. Also in service are aircraft long-range radar detection and control (DRLO) and a large number of military transport aircraft.

Air defense is strong - 16 batteries of Patriot PAC-2 long-range anti-aircraft missile systems, numerous Hawk and Crotale air defense systems, hundreds of Stinger MANPADS, and the like.

The naval forces are divided into 2 parts: the Western fleet in the Red Sea and the Eastern fleet in the Persian Gulf. In the Persian Gulf there are 3 Al Riyadh class frigates (modernization of the French La Fayette) with Exocet MM40 block II anti-ship missiles (ASM) with a launch range of up to 72 km. In the Red Sea, there are 4 Al Madinah class frigates with Otomat Mk2 anti-ship missiles with a maximum launch range of up to 180 km, 4 Badr American corvettes with Harpoon anti-ship missiles. Missile and patrol boats are evenly distributed over fleets. As for the landing ships - there are 8 of them, and the maximum total landing can be up to 800 people at a time.
As we can see, the armed forces are impressively equipped, but there is one problem: despite this equipment and quantity, Saudi Arabia has not been able to achieve any serious success in neighboring Yemen in the 10 months, in which the army of the Hussite rebels opposes it weapons. This shows how low the actual combat effectiveness of the armed forces of Saudi Arabia and their allies is.

More: "The decisive storm" in Yemen: what does he decide?

Iranian Armed Forces - the largest in the region

Iranian Armed Forces have a population of thousands of people in 550 - the largest in the region. At the same time, the military budget in 2015 amounted to approximately $ 10 billion, which is quite small with such a number. There are more than 1600 tanks in service, of which around 480 are relatively modern T-72Z and 150 Zulfiqar tanks of their own production (presumably based on T-72 and American M60). Infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers are represented by hundreds of obsolete and obsolete Soviet models, as well as artillery.

The air force is represented by a large number of aircraft of various classes and different countries of production. True, there are no new products among them, and the long sanctions period probably affected the combat readiness aviation - hardly more than 50% of them are in flight condition. In service are the American F-14 supersonic interceptors, the long-obsolete F-4 Phantom and F-5 Tiger fighters, and the French Mirage-F1. Of the Soviet vehicles, there are MiG-29 fighters, Su-24 front-line bombers, and Su-25 attack aircraft. In total, there are about 300 units of the above equipment.

As for the air defense system, fundamental changes are taking place here - several years ago, short-range air defense systems Tor-M1 were acquired from Russia, deliveries of long-range air defense systems C-300PMU-2 began. Thus, very soon in this aspect, Iran will not yield to Saudi Arabia.

As for the Navy, the diversity is noticeably greater than that of Saudi Arabia. In addition, most of the ships are concentrated in the Persian Gulf (a small part of the ships is located in the Caspian Sea). There are 3 submarines of the 877 “Halibut” project, another 26 small locally produced submarine, carrying mines and torpedoes, 5 frigates, 6 corvettes (all of its production), more 50 missile boats (Chinese, Iranian and German). Interestingly, all Iranian rocket ships use Chinese-made anti-ship missiles - C-701 (35 km range, anti-submarine) and YJ-82 (range to 120 km).

Thus, Iran has an advantage over a potential adversary in terms of the Navy. In addition, as a result of many years of existence under Iran’s economic sanctions, its own military-industrial complex has emerged - perhaps its products are not distinguished by some great characteristics; nevertheless, it provides the country with some independence from external supplies. The missile program has achieved quite a lot of success - the country is armed with a whole range of short and medium range ballistic missiles, cruise missiles, etc. In total, their number can exceed 200 − 300 units.

The most likely scenario is a further increase in the intensity of conflicts in Syria, Iraq and Yemen.

The geographical position is not very conducive to the beginning of a direct military clash between the countries - Saudi Arabia and Iran do not border with each other. Therefore, the parties are likely to increase involvement in conflicts in Syria, Iraq and Yemen. This will not lead to anything good for these countries, but will only further extend the hybrid wars going into them. True for Saudi Arabia, Yemen may turn out to be a “weak point” - despite 150 thousandth ground grouping, 185 aviation units (including allies), the operation against the Hussites does not lead to any results. The reason for this is both the very low combat capability of the Saudi Arabian Armed Forces, and the competent actions of the rebels, who are probably supported by Iranian specialists. If this support intensifies (technically it is not easy, since Iran can only maintain contact with Yemen by sea), together with the presence of Shiites living compactly in Saudi Arabia, this situation can lead to a disaster for Riyadh. In any case, such a scenario is a further stage of the war of attrition - war, which is also combined with the struggle for oil markets, as a result of which all increase the production of "black gold" and bring down prices on the exchanges. In such a scenario, the side that used to be “torn” will lose.

Full-scale war - chaos for many years?


If, however, a full-scale war breaks out, the main "battlefields" will be the Persian Gulf, and probably the territory of Iraq and Kuwait (they are between Saudi Arabia and Iran). At the same time, Qatar is definitely an ally of the Saud, and the current authorities of Iraq are allies of the Iranians. Despite the apparent preponderance of Saudi Arabia and its allies, Iran has several trump cards - it controls the Strait of Hormuz and does not have a war in the rear, near its borders (like Yemen for Saud). The Iranian Navy is quite possible to "shut down" the strait for the passage of any enemy ships. Such a move will lead to an economic catastrophe for the Gulf countries that are members of the coalition against Iran, while the Iranians themselves will be able to continue exporting oil. In addition to stopping the receipt of money from the sale of oil, which nevertheless is one way or another temporary factor, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Qatar and other countries of the “Gulf” may lose all their markets, which the United States, Russia and all the same Iran.

If the war drags on, it will have completely unpredictable results - both sides will strike each other with ballistic missiles (here Iran will cause more damage), try to “set on fire” local opposition forces, incite neighboring countries against each other. All this can finally destroy the Middle East that we know and in a few years lead to the formation of a completely different map of the region.
The most important question that arises is what will such major Sunni allies of Saudi Arabia as Egypt, Pakistan and Turkey do. Pakistan’s direct intervention in the conflict seems extremely unlikely, as the country has a “longtime friend” in India and can be distracted by major conflicts with someone else. Turkey can intensify its actions in Syria and Iraq, and, given the rather aggressive policy inherent in this country, to intervene in the conflict. This may be of great help to the Saud, but Kurdish forces in Turkey may well take advantage of the moment and strike from within. As for Egypt, the country is far enough away from the possible theater of military operations and is unlikely to intervene more than it is now (at the moment the country is participating in the blockade of the coast of Yemen).
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  1. Pereira
    Pereira 6 January 2016 09: 55
    10
    Is it too early to start looking for a winner?
    They have no more business, how to fight each other across the bay? Nobody breathes them in the back of the head? And most importantly, what can be a positive result for the winner, except for a ruined economy that even oil that has temporarily jumped in price will not raise?
    In short, they themselves will not fight. And the one who pushes them will make sure that there will be no winner.
    1. Don karleone
      Don karleone 6 January 2016 10: 00
      26
      The puppeteer along the way, the threads are messed up ... here he will tear them now, and there is a complete .ope soldier
      1. Tatyana
        Tatyana 6 January 2016 10: 39
        15
        If you take a quick look at the situation, then we have the following.
        It should be noted that Saudi Arabia and Iran do not have a common border. Syria, Iraq, Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar are buffer zones for them. Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar are not very suitable for a military bridgehead for the advancing troops of any opposing side. But Syria and even more so Iraq are quite suitable and, according to military tactics, should be used by Iran and Saudi Arabia. To do this, they should, in theory, either voluntarily allow foreign troops into their territory. Or be occupied if Syria and Iraq refuse to Iran and Saudi Arabia to deploy foreign troops on its territory. Those. then an act of coercion will be committed against them by Iran or Saudi Arabia and their allies.
        Therefore, this confrontation between Iran and Saudi Arabia should be considered as the upcoming declaration of war between Iran and Saudi Arabia, Syria and Iraq.
        Everything happens like the historic German forced capture of Poland in 1939 before the German attack on the USSR. Backstage instigators were then England, France, the United States.
        Now the pattern is the same, and the United States is apparently the backstage instigators.
        1. Al_oriso
          Al_oriso 6 January 2016 12: 22
          +1
          If the war did not start immediately, then in the near future it is unlikely to begin. Relocation, regrouping, negotiations with possible allies will take place ...
          Although, another similar provocation, and everything can begin overnight.
        2. avva2012
          avva2012 6 January 2016 14: 14
          +1
          Everything happens like a historical forced capture German territory of Poland in 1939 year before the German attack on the USSR.
          Tatyana, what does the forced mean? What is the connection with the conflict between Iran and the SA?
          The Third Reich needed a common border with the USSR for an attack. And here is Iraq and Syria in this situation? The US is naturally an instigator. Here, one thing, I don’t understand, in the SA, the rulers are mentally retarded, or what if they do not understand that they are a bargaining chip?
          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana 6 January 2016 22: 31
            +3
            avva2012
            Here, one thing, I don’t understand, in the SA, the rulers are mentally retarded, or what if they do not understand that they are a bargaining chip?

            But what, did the Poles understand that they are a bargaining chip among their allies in England, the USA and France? Also, after all, the Poles, as such, were not stupid. In the Poles, their allies, Machiavellianistically inflammatory, exploited their pathological desire and desire for the revival of “Great Great Poland”. And the Saids are all focused on the desire for their dominance in the BV. At the same time, Americans do not really need a strong Saudi Arabia in BV, but its unconditional submission to the USA itself is very necessary for their world domination of oil in the Middle East region. In addition, we must not forget that the Saudis are the main buyers of American weapons for the radical Islamists of the DIASH, and the permanent hot spot on the American military base is also quite satisfactory.
            1. garmonist
              garmonist 9 January 2016 09: 25
              +1
              The Poles have been acting stupid for 400 years, which led to the collapse of their empire of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth and further problems. The main thing is to begin to behave smarter and think about our interests, first of all, then it may be possible to restore at least part of the lost over the past 100 years. If he thinks only about his own enrichment, then the fate of Byzantium awaits Russia.
        3. Amon on Earth
          Amon on Earth 16 September 2019 09: 36
          0
          And you think why Russia abruptly began to help Syria? That's it ...
          The voynushka is planned. The US is already completely brutalized. So Russia intervened to postpone the inevitable in the hope of preventing. In any case, push the war away from you, so that military operations from there are not in the south of Russia. And here we are also friends with Chechnya, so that they cover our asses in the south of Russia, and they know how to fight.
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 6 January 2016 10: 04
      +4
      In Saudi Arabia, and so the war is at hand, rather, Iran will increase the support of the Hussites in Yemen.
      1. hrych
        hrych 6 January 2016 10: 26
        15
        The funny thing is that in the places of the main deposits and bulk terminals the Shiite population prevails and if they cannot win right away, then it is not a problem to destabilize. The United States is critically dependent on the region and I think it will merge its Bedouin brothers because the Anglo-Saxons have no friends. If the execution of the Ayatollahs was utter stupidity already understood by everyone, including the moronic Saud, then whether he agreed with London or he himself guessed the big question, but the days of the dynasty were numbered.
        1. Dryuya2
          Dryuya2 6 January 2016 10: 50
          +3
          Quote: hrych
          The funny thing is that in the places of the main deposits and bulk terminals the population prevails Shiite

          Protests in Saudi Arabia after the execution of the famous Shiite cleric Nimr al-NIMR
        2. garmonist
          garmonist 9 January 2016 09: 28
          0
          Your words to Allah in their ears)))
      2. Dryuya2
        Dryuya2 6 January 2016 11: 04
        +2
        Quote: Vadim237
        rather, Iran will increase support for the Hussites in Yemen.

        and what kind of support is they - if only literate advisers (and they are there for sure), they seem to pick up weapons from the Saud already what
        PS
        and what kind of "slogans" (chants) are they constantly shouting about Israel and America ????
        ====
        Attacks on Saudi military positions by Yemeni militants Huti (near Al Kubah, Jizan region)

        Yemen - Huti Ambush Saudi Army Convoy in Jazan Province, Saudi Arabia 31/12
        1. Dryuya2
          Dryuya2 6 January 2016 11: 26
          +4
          sorry here winked
          ===
          the Turks are also not weak "bangs" - this is not from the series (you will not get off with tomatoes alone)
          ====
          Fierce confrontation between Turkish and Kurdish military YPD-H in Jizzra Turkey
      3. remy
        remy 7 January 2016 17: 36
        +1
        it's all old!
        Americans push the Saudis to war with Iran
        target?!
        Re-isolation of Iran
        as an option, the Americans are trying to "sell the" donkey "again to Russia
        1. garmonist
          garmonist 9 January 2016 09: 39
          +1
          I think the goal is not to isolate Iran, but in the Great War of all with everyone in the Middle East where America will warm its hands at a flaming fire and get rid of the debts accumulated over decades.
    3. vlad66
      vlad66 6 January 2016 10: 16
      26
      But whoever wins, the winners will sit in offices across the ocean and count the profits. what
      1. hrych
        hrych 6 January 2016 10: 35
        +8
        Don’t tell me, if not Saudis, there is no dollar system when an oil enema is behind the teller (and not silver, as before), Iran and its Shiites will definitely trade for national currencies and the Russian Federation will support, only because of these players the yuan has already become a reserve currency. I’m afraid these managers will have no profits, no offices, except perhaps with a bucket ...
        1. avva2012
          avva2012 6 January 2016 14: 28
          +5
          Don’t tell me, if not Saudis, there is no dollar system when an oil enema is behind the teller (and not silver, as before)
          Do you think the truth is the United States, maneuvered, maneuvered, but not caught? Are they not dirty hands trying to bake another dirty trick there? And Iran, slightly lower, and the CA, finally drain, so that they do not dangle underfoot.
          1. hrych
            hrych 7 January 2016 10: 03
            +1
            In 2015, two significant events took place: the first RF in oil supplies overtook the SA and became the first in the world, the second in the SA ran out of "light" oil (by the way, light oil was still found in our north). The first event marked the end of the dependence of the world economy on production in the SA, the second marked the end of dependence on the SA in oil pricing, when the cost of oil for the SA was about $ 7 per barrel of light oil. If you noticed that in order to somehow keep oil at a low price in order to strangle the Russian Federation, Iran (the entire Shiite world) and Venezuela (all the Balivarians, including Cuba, Bolivia, Nicaragua, because of the murder of Chavez and the attempted murder of Kirchner, and also the reduction of financing by the oil industry, in Argentina the "left" lost the elections), the United States, a complete donor, at least minuscule, but threw its oil on the market (although they destroyed their shale revolution with cheap oil, that is, in fact, the policy of the top of the United States is anti-American). The stolen oil of DAISH has problems in the market due to burning fuel trucks. And all this, with the full tension of the forces of the United States, the SA, Turkey and Daesh, lowered oil by only 37 bucks per barrel. For us, the average cost of oil is $ 21-26 per barrel (depending on production conditions). Moreover, the Russian Federation is not critically dependent on oil production, like SA, after achieving food security, we came to self-sufficiency, with the exception of light industry and machine-tool building, the former is roughly pants, and the latter is dangerous for industrial development and modernization. If we have sensed this war so far in the indexation of pensions and salaries for public sector employees, then CA is on the verge of bankruptcy, shale companies have gone bankrupt in the United States, which have been piled up with loans, etc. Losses in the war are borne by everyone and we are least of all, successes are with enemies in Latin America, but I will repeat myself largely thanks to the successful elimination of Chavez ...
            1. hrych
              hrych 7 January 2016 11: 44
              +1
              I missed a critical dependence on pharmaceutical imports, but if you want, it is rapidly growing, as well as the production of chips. Tableting and ampulling machines, as in the production of microelectronics the size of a refrigerator, do not require problems with the deployment of production facilities with areas, energy consumption, and raw materials. One is the problem of sterility, but such a trifle.
    4. Proxima
      Proxima 6 January 2016 10: 18
      +4
      Quote: Pereira
      Is it too early to start looking for a winner?
      They have no more business, how to fight each other across the bay? Nobody breathes them in the back of the head?

      Here we still need to decide on the "front line". The front will pass exactly through the territory of Iraq, the right flank (near Iran) will go through Syria, possibly catching Turkey. On the left flank, military operations of the Iranian Navy and the Saudi Eastern Fleet are possible. About Kuwait, the United Arab Emirates and others - I'm not talking at all. In the course of the play, ISIS will also be filmed, and it is possible that on both sides. In short, in the event of a "non-hybrid" war, everyone will be in trouble. God forbid, of course.
    5. midivan
      midivan 6 January 2016 10: 24
      +3
      Quote: Pereira
      Is it too early to start looking for a winner?
      They have no more business, how to fight each other across the bay? Nobody breathes them in the back of the head? And most importantly, what can be a positive result for the winner, except for a ruined economy that even oil that has temporarily jumped in price will not raise?
      In short, they themselves will not fight. And the one who pushes them will make sure that there will be no winner.
      east matter delicate Pereira smile
      1. subbtin.725
        subbtin.725 6 January 2016 10: 34
        +4
        Not a bad overview.
        1. kolyhalovs
          kolyhalovs 6 January 2016 12: 05
          +1
          Without taking into account the actions of the United States and its European six ... partners in the region and without taking into account the actions of Russia in the region. Which fundamentally changes a good review to a bad one. USA never they will not be allowed to lock Saudi tankers in ports. Russia will not leave from Syria, which will reduce the role of such a large force as Turkey in the conflict. Etc. etc.
          1. kolyhalovs
            kolyhalovs 6 January 2016 12: 20
            +2
            I have nothing against Romania. But it turns out violent Romanization, however.
          2. midivan
            midivan 6 January 2016 18: 04
            +4
            Quote: kolyhalovs
            The United States will never allow Saudi tankers to be locked in ports.

            what if a couple of tankers suddenly catch fire? can put out? the usa has such a fire extinguisherfellow? laughing
            1. Uncle VasyaSayapin
              Uncle VasyaSayapin 6 January 2016 22: 56
              0
              The United States has enough of its oil, they are going to sell it, and they do not need competitors. Therefore, they need a war in the gulf. But it is better to negotiate with Putin on oil.
    6. Lelek
      Lelek 6 January 2016 10: 26
      +3
      Quote: Pereira
      They have no more business, how to fight each other across the bay?


      East is a delicate matter. For us there is no difference between Sunnis and Shiites, but for Muslims it has a place to be, hence the "legs":
      (cry.)
      1. Oorfene Deuce
        Oorfene Deuce 6 January 2016 12: 02
        +5
        Quote: Lelek
        For us there is no difference between Sunnis and Shiites, but for Muslims it has a place to be, hence the "legs":

        This is what the interpretation in the interpretation of any "sacred" scriptures leads to ...
        But what's the difference? Also in Christianity, I do not see the point of these church sacraments. Who is going to be baptized from left to right or from right to left? Three fingers or two? So, after all, no ... They will declare you a sinner and renegade!
        Burn the infidels, cut off their Bosko! After all, only they profess the truth, and the rest are heretics.
    7. Talgat
      Talgat 6 January 2016 20: 33
      +3
      Quote: Pereira
      They have no more business, how to fight each other across the bay? Nobody breathes them in the back of the head? And most importantly, what can be a positive result for the winner, except for a ruined economy that even oil that has temporarily jumped in price will not raise?
      In short, they themselves will not fight.


      I wanted to note that before the First World War, all analysts and politicians argued that war was impossible and unprofitable for anyone. As if no one would take an illogical step

      Production revenues will fall, Germany and Russia are partners, and the Kaiser and the czar are relatives, and so on and so forth.

      But as it turned out, the logic at the start of the war is hard
  2. The black
    The black 6 January 2016 09: 57
    +5
    The Americans will win !!! laughingThat's who is sleeping and sees such a scenario ...
    1. Alexei
      Alexei 6 January 2016 09: 58
      26
      Quote: Black
      Americans will win !!

      If they don’t win, then at least the film will be shot that they won.
      1. The black
        The black 6 January 2016 10: 03
        +8
        Well so, it is not discussed laughing ... Captain America will tear apart the army of Saudis, and Batman - the Iranians ... laughing . And peace will come, grace and flourishing of democracy. lol
        1. Alexei
          Alexei 6 January 2016 10: 07
          +5
          Quote: Black
          .Capitan America will tear apart the army of the Saudis, and Batman - the Iranians ...

          Oh, what are you, these guys for special tasks ... And for such mundane tasks they have soldiers Jane and Major Payne.
        2. Vladimirets
          Vladimirets 6 January 2016 10: 25
          +1
          Quote: Black
          peace, grace and the flourishing of democracy.

          In a single film.
  3. Mikhail Krapivin
    Mikhail Krapivin 6 January 2016 09: 57
    +3
    The United States will win, as always. And it is already a little tired. When our people learn to extract dividends from any event in the world, how are these .... bad people?
    1. Alexei
      Alexei 6 January 2016 10: 01
      11
      Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
      When our people learn to extract dividends from any event in the world, how are these .... bad people?

      When will cease to be Russian.
    2. midivan
      midivan 6 January 2016 10: 19
      +5
      Quote: Mikhail Krapivin
      The United States will win, as always. And it is already a little tired. When our people learn to extract dividends from any event in the world, how are these .... bad people?

      Well, I think the corridor to Syria was not provided to us directly from good intentions, and that Ilyukha should sit down and deliver dividends to both us and Iran, maybe it’s also a loan, but it’s not bad either, and something tells me that minke whales will not really benefit if Iran he’s craving for oil deposits. And he will aim there to win what the Amers won? I heard the Saudis borrowed money out of the ear, but they may not return the loan (they will not give anyone), well, do not forget that Iran has unlike riyad there is not a small experience in the war smile and the most interesting thing is a visit to the GDP of both of these not so long ago that something is not right laughing
      1. askort154
        askort154 6 January 2016 11: 52
        +4
        midivan ..... and the most interesting thing is a visit to the GDP of both of these not so long ago, something is not right

        It's okay if both of them go to Russia for advice. This suggests that "the East is a delicate matter," without Russia it is not a player.
        1. midivan
          midivan 6 January 2016 18: 00
          +3
          Quote: askort154
          It's okay if both of them go to Russia for advice. This suggests that "the East is a delicate matter," without Russia it is not a player.

          smile it’s kind of like yes, but it’s suspicious that the Saudis would go for a puddle, what and like, should we give them direct help with their gifts for the price of oil right now (even with advice)? fool I would help them angry
    3. Nikolay K
      Nikolay K 6 January 2016 12: 05
      +3
      Well why. If it blocks the Strait of Hormuz, oil prices will soar again. This is a chance for Russia. A full-scale war is not in our interests, but the war of attrition is the very thing, and so that it eventually ends with the replacement of the Saudi dynasty with something sane.
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      2. atalef
        atalef 6 January 2016 12: 21
        -1
        Quote: Nikolai K
        Well why. If it blocks the Strait of Hormuz


        Saudi Arabia can supply oil through neither the Strait of Hormuz, it has enough exits both through Oman and the Red Sea, but what about Iran?
        Quote: Nikolai K
        so that it eventually ends with the replacement of the Saudi dynasty with something sane.

        they made fun, in Ukraine they managed to throw Poroshenko off, are going to change the Saudi family.
  4. avvg
    avvg 6 January 2016 10: 02
    +6
    Victory in both Iran and KSA will be pain, grief and devastation, and of course ordinary people will lose from this.
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  6. Trailer
    Trailer 6 January 2016 10: 07
    +3
    The war of Iran and Saudi Arabia: who will win?


    Peace atom.
  7. venaya
    venaya 6 January 2016 10: 09
    +4
    Saudi Arabia for 10 months can not achieve any serious success in neighboring Yemen

    With such a fighting capacity of the Saudi army, it is doubtful that they will decide how big the military operations are against Iran, I think it will end with a wave of batons (a demonstration, no more), in order to get some devidents, naturally if the United States does not seriously intervene in the process, then naturally everything is possible .
  8. Sars
    Sars 6 January 2016 10: 12
    +1
    Pakistan, while with two hands rejects war on the side of the Saudis. Egypt had problems in Yemen, it’s stupid to step on the same rake twice. So not everything is clear.
  9. Vladimir 1964
    Vladimir 1964 6 January 2016 10: 12
    +7
    I read the article with interest, but I was surprised that for some reason the author did not analyze the issue of Iran's "interest" in an open confrontation with the Saudis. And this topic is now widely discussed and discussed by many. And there is a far from unambiguous, but supported by many, opinion that it is extremely unprofitable for Iran at the present moment to enter into direct confrontation with the Saudis. Since the republic, in connection with the lifting of sanctions, for the first time in many years got the opportunity to enter foreign markets, both sales and acquisitions. And the Saudis are well aware of the current situation and openly provoke Iran, trying to prevent Iran from entering foreign markets, that is, eliminating a competitor.
    Dear colleagues, although I refer to an Internet audience, the opinion is of course largely subjective. hi
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  11. Mercenary
    Mercenary 6 January 2016 10: 15
    +1
    There is no land border - how to fight spitting through the bay? The Saudis are looking for a reason to raise the price of oil pryntsev money is not enough for golden yachts!
  12. APASUS
    APASUS 6 January 2016 10: 17
    +4
    This is a religious war, and here rather the general rules for the development of conflicts do not apply. No one can predict the actions of religious groups or governments led by religious fanatics. It can catch fire anywhere and will respond specifically to the war.
    Most importantly, it’s not the number of neighboring countries that take this or that side, but the actions of world-class authorities in the USA, China, Russia, the EU. The conflict affects the interests of far-lying countries.
    In this situation, given the fact that our Russian Sunni Muslims directly support Shiite Iran, it is rather not advisable. Russia's participation in a religious war should not take place, under any circumstances. Rather, we should choose the US position in the Iraq and Iran war, they supplied arms to everyone.
  13. Leprekon
    Leprekon 6 January 2016 10: 18
    0
    Oil price = big politics
    Big politics = US ambitions + regional tensions
    Regional tensions = ambitions of regional leaders + nonsense of monarchs + confrontation of Shiites with Sunnis
  14. Great-grandfather of Zeus
    Great-grandfather of Zeus 6 January 2016 10: 20
    +2
    No blah, blah, blah, it won’t work, because the direct war between these countries is chaos and the collapse of the economy, and given the rise in oil prices, this is a rollback in economic terms decades ago.
  15. jovanni
    jovanni 6 January 2016 10: 25
    +1
    The war of Iran and Saudi Arabia: who will win?
    Definitely not us. Well, our country does not know how to take profit in such cases ...
  16. bad
    bad 6 January 2016 10: 33
    0
    Quote: Alexej
    Quote: Black
    Americans will win !!

    If they don’t win, then at least the film will be shot that they won.
    .. most of all, more than one will be removed .. they have enough "heroes" in Hollywood for the special forces brigade, give everyone a movie about "saving the world"! ... laughing
    1. padded jacket
      padded jacket 6 January 2016 10: 59
      +3
      Personally, I think that there will be no war between Saudi Arabia and Iran. The war is now "not profitable" for Iran or even for us Russia (it is not for nothing that we "keep" the valiant Hezbollah from striking Israel) at the moment the most important problem is to deal with what is happening in Syria and the conflict between the Sunnis and Shiites is now needed only by one side that constantly "sows" death and strife in the region - Israel.
      But if the war all the same suddenly "happens" in a one-on-one "fight", Saudi Arabia has practically no chances of its export oil export will be stopped due to a large number of Iranian anti-ship missiles and its navy is either "locked" in bases or will be disabled. And of course, great destruction with the death of civilians awaits the cities of both countries, and if Saudi Arabia has superiority in aircraft, then Iran has a fairly large number of medium-range missiles, including those with maneuvering warheads, which the air defense and missile defense of the SA are unlikely to intercept.
  17. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 6 January 2016 10: 35
    +1
    Do brave SA princes want to fight the "cowardly Persians"? An extremely sophisticated method of suicide. It is worth remembering the Iran-Iraq war.
    A wild number of victims, barbaric methods of warfare (minefields clearing by boys - suicide bombers from the Iranian side) - and practically zero result. I'm afraid no one really knows exactly what the military-industrial complex of Iran is at the moment. But IMHO, if a war breaks out, it will be fought until the final collapse of the SA and a complete redrawing of the map of the Middle East. One thing is hard to believe. That the Arabs will fight on the side of the Persians. In Iran itself, the situation is not simple either. There is far from being a mono national population. And they may try to undermine the country "from the inside".
    1. Wheel
      Wheel 6 January 2016 11: 21
      +1
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      In Iran itself, the situation is not simple either. There is far from being a mono national population. And they may try to undermine the country "from the inside".

      East is a delicate matter...
      In this case, if there is a mess, then not on a national basis, then the religious aspect prevails.
      Sunni-Shiite showdowns do not have a nationality.
    2. atalef
      atalef 6 January 2016 12: 13
      +2
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      But IMHO, if the war catches fire, it will be fought until the final collapse of the SA and the complete re-map of the map of the Middle East

      Whoever forgets a little bit that behind the Saudis is the whole Sunni world + USA + England. , and who is behind Iran?
      So that there will be no war. There is no problem to crush Iran, and then, by imposing sanctions, they will not be allowed to recover, and sanctions can be taken without any UN, like the USA and Western Europe. technology and equipment Where will it be imported from?
      After Iran has been under sanctions for 7 years and lowered the economy below the baseboard, Iran now just doesn’t have enough to get into another war.
      Saudi Arabia has everything - from enough weapons, money and Islamic shrines, to allies who are ready to sign for it both in the war and in the subsequent restoration. What does Iran have?
      1. Kaetani
        Kaetani 6 January 2016 21: 35
        0
        Saudi, with all his strength in the current war in Emen, is not very prosperous
    3. atalef
      atalef 6 January 2016 12: 13
      -1
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      But IMHO, if the war catches fire, it will be fought until the final collapse of the SA and the complete re-map of the map of the Middle East

      Whoever forgets a little bit that behind the Saudis is the whole Sunni world + USA + England. , and who is behind Iran?
      So that there will be no war. There is no problem to crush Iran, and then, by imposing sanctions, they will not be allowed to recover, and sanctions can be taken without any UN, like the USA and Western Europe. technology and equipment Where will it be imported from?
      After Iran has been under sanctions for 7 years and lowered the economy below the baseboard, Iran now just doesn’t have enough to get into another war.
      Saudi Arabia has everything - from enough weapons, money and Islamic shrines, to allies who are ready to sign for it both in the war and in the subsequent restoration. What does Iran have?
      1. padded jacket
        padded jacket 6 January 2016 12: 36
        0
        Quote: atalef
        Whoever forgets a little bit that behind the Saudis is the whole Sunni world + USA + England.

        atalef you forgot to say that behind the Wahhabis of Saudi Arabia (who hate both Iran and Russia) is Israel smile
        Israeli Foreign Minister General: Saudi Arabia is our ally
        Dori Gold, director general of the Israeli Ministry of Foreign Affairs, said at a conference of representatives of Jewish communities in the United States that Saudi Arabia has become a strategic ally of the Jewish state.
        http://newsru.co.il/mideast/31jul2015/gold8007.html

        In general, the regime existing in Israel supports all enemies of Russia and Iran in particular - Turkey and terrorists operating in Syria.
        .
      2. APASUS
        APASUS 6 January 2016 17: 42
        +1
        Quote: atalef
        Whoever forgets a little bit that behind the Saudis is the whole Sunni world + USA + England. , and who is behind Iran?

        Are you sure that the United States and England are behind the SA?
        According to White House press secretary Josh Ernest, the United States is asking all parties to show self-control and not stir up tensions. There is not even a hint of accepting the SA side and condemning Iran, although Iran has directly violated the Vienna Convention on Diplomatic Representations.
        I don’t think that the United States will directly want to protect the interests of the SA with the lives of its soldiers. To deliver weapons, but the SA bought everything that is possible from the USA, but the soldiers did not increase it.
        And who does this represent the Sunni world?
        Pakistan will not support the SA, if only because they have one conflict with India, they can’t pull on both sides. Egypt now can at least support the SA morally, but I think they’re tired of internal problems now, they can’t bring order to the Sinai how old is it. Turkey, which can descend to an ethnic conflict on its territory, I don’t think their border is Syria. And who else represents real strength on the side of the CA, African country, Qatar with a mini army? Oh yes Israel, but the CA is not noticed by strong love to Israel, although who knows?
        I don’t know whether this conflict will have a military continuation, but the SA will not benefit from the beginning, a lot of internal problems, almost no army with huge purchases of the most modern weapons, a conflict in Yemen. I think now there will simply be a jump and aggravation of existing conflicts Syria, Yemen, Iraq, Kurdistan..............
  18. Dam
    Dam 6 January 2016 10: 38
    +2
    It’s not weapons that fight, but people. Iran will win. And we have long needed to convey thanks to these Saud homosexuals
  19. Lumumba
    Lumumba 6 January 2016 10: 39
    +2
    In the war of Iran and Saudi Arabia, the United States will win.
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      1. Wheel
        Wheel 6 January 2016 11: 29
        +2
        Quote: biron
        usa will get another candle in the ass.

        Why do you think so?
        The whole process fits neatly into the current policy of "controlled chaos".
        And the main beneficiary is just 3,14ndostan, and with the wrong hands.
    2. padded jacket
      padded jacket 6 January 2016 11: 06
      +1
      Quote: Lumumba
      In the war of Iran and Saudi Arabia, the United States will win.

      Absolutely correct but a little inaccurate. If a "new" war breaks out in the region, the United States, Israel and terrorists with Wahhabis will win who need it to "sow" death and earn money on someone else's blood and death.
  20. biron
    biron 6 January 2016 10: 41
    0
    Quote: Don Karleone
    The puppeteer along the way, the threads are messed up ... here he will tear them now, and there is a complete .ope soldier

    I’m sending to IRAN. bully
  21. Приговор
    Приговор 6 January 2016 10: 51
    +5
    I propose taking Iran as an ally and helping it with new weapons. As follows from the article, a lot of things in the Iranian army need to be changed. And the Saudis have always been our enemies, in their furnace! We all remember who so diligently helped the Americans kill the USSR.
    1. Vladimir71
      Vladimir71 6 January 2016 11: 11
      +2
      For the Soviet Union simply must answer)))
  22. surovts.valery
    surovts.valery 6 January 2016 11: 02
    +1
    Quote: Don Karleone
    The puppeteer along the way, the threads are messed up ... here he will tear them now, and there is a complete .ope soldier

    So, it seems that everyone sitting on the ends of the strings worked correctly: the Arab Sunni states close to the Saudis unitedly stopped diplomatic relations with Iran or recalled the ambassadors. And here are different US singers like Japan, Australia, Canada, etc., one in one repeated the State Department’s statements, like everyone is to blame and we must come to peace.
    And for me, in the case of a heated conflict, Iran has an advantage. Firstly, power supported by almost the entire population, and secondly, ideologically motivated army, moreover, not badly armed (with enormous human resources). And on the other hand, in Saudi Arabia there is a decaying monarchy with a bunch of heirs claiming and warring among themselves, the snickering local population (supposedly indigenous), with most almost powerless guest workers (there is no one to fight).
  23. fa2998
    fa2998 6 January 2016 11: 11
    +1
    It is hardly worth counting tanks and infantry fighting vehicles, the opposing sides have no common border. Aviation and air defense have an advantage here. One and a half hundred F-15s, and over a hundred Typhoons and Tornadoes are already serious, at least 200 combat-ready. air defense system (and the Jewish "Domes" are coming). The Persians mostly have old planes, foreign-made, where to get spare parts for them, a question. And the air defense systems supplied from Russia have not been mastered by the sea. Iran has advantages. And he controls the Strait of Hormuz. I think the SA will not lose, for her the "big guy" is the USA, who has forces and means in the region and can help. And the SA has a bigger money bag. yes hi
    1. Tourist Breakfast
      Tourist Breakfast 6 January 2016 11: 33
      +1
      Developed air defense system (and the Jewish "Domes" are coming)

      I see New Year's holidays are fun. You would have noted easier there.
  24. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 6 January 2016 11: 30
    +3
    How many articles were about how the Saudis fight, if you believe them, this is laughter, not war. They run out of their eyes from everything that moves on them. Yemenis frightened the poor. What then was the war with Iran after that?
  25. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 6 January 2016 11: 34
    +2
    "both sides will strike each other with ballistic missiles
    (here Iran will do more damage "////

    Is not a fact. Saudi Arabia cover batteries Patriot PAK-2, which BR small
    ranges of the Scud and Tochka classes are shot down successfully (there were up to 10 successful
    practical interceptions).
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    2. Weyland
      Weyland 6 January 2016 12: 00
      +2
      Quote: voyaka uh
      Patriot PAK-2, which successfully shoot down missile launchers of Scud and Tochka classes


      And how much do they cost? How is the joke that a Chinese tank is cheaper than an American ATGM? wink
      It makes sense for Iran to conduct a massive missile attack with the most lame old stuff so that the Saudis spend all the Patriots on it - but save good missiles for "sweet" ...
    3. nersmail
      7 January 2016 01: 18
      0
      Pak-2 is not very effective as a missile defense. In addition, Iran has many short-range and medium-range missiles; according to them, the effectiveness of the Patriot of this modification will generally not exceed 10%.
      P.S. The point is an operational-tactical missile, there was no talk about it at all, and the distances there are inaccessible for it, as well as for Scud (if only from the coast along the coast to buy)
  26. MolGro
    MolGro 6 January 2016 11: 38
    +3
    Iran will win this 100% because all the way to the Saudis, it will have an army!
    Tell the people of Iraq that the Saudis who blamed the United States for Iraq are to blame for their troubles and this can be proved) here’s the army for you)
  27. DimerVladimer
    DimerVladimer 6 January 2016 12: 31
    +3
    With a greater degree of probability, I admit that there will be no war - the defeat of the Saudi house is not beneficial to the ally of Saudi Arabia - the United States. The US is not profitable for Iran to block the Strait of Hormuz and strengthen Iran in the region.
    The US reaction is fairly easy to predict - the next appearance of an aircraft carrier group in the region as a method of intimidating Iran.
  28. screw cutter
    screw cutter 6 January 2016 12: 33
    +3
    I think that if the Saudis would win, they should forgive the debt to the states, American banks have the most Saudi money. There is no creditor, no debt. I think that it is the states who benefit from the victory of Iran and Shiites, and Europeans need to sell shale oil.
  29. uge.garik
    uge.garik 6 January 2016 12: 42
    +1
    ..... The one with whom China will be victorious, but he prefers the Persians, but in any situation - he will lose the most geyropa, refugee-immigrants, oil, inter-Islamic squabbles in the EU ...
  30. karavay82
    karavay82 6 January 2016 12: 42
    +6
    Yes .. you sit and wonder how much we hardened. We argue with such a smart look, there will be a right flank, and here the Iranian fleet will drown .... and there will be tanks.
    And even no one imagines that in any case, even without the start of a full-scale war, there will be thousands of victims and a new wave of migrants, WILL BE EXPLOSIONS, there will be suicide bombers.
    And for what !!! So that someone would feel like the ruler of the Muslim world, so that oil prices rise and corporations and princes are choked with gold.
    In order for the gunsmiths to receive huge orders for the supply of weapons, and become even richer.
    The Muslim world deliberately leads to an explosion ... Because against the backdrop of Western civilization, the Muslim world began to develop both intellectually and culturally, and technologically. Look who the main initiators are - Middle Eastern monarchies. Libya has already collapsed (I don’t even remember about it), Iraq is balancing on the brink of collapse, Syria is in ruins, and many experts at the beginning of the Syrian conflict predicted that Iran would be the next.
    At the same time, the East began to be friends with Russia and China.
    The explosion of the Muslim world will lead to the return of the Middle Ages throughout the Middle East, the rich will become even richer, power and influence will be redistributed, and most importantly, the WESTERN CAPITALIST SYSTEM will be preserved (including the dollar).
    And millions of people will die, millions will be crippled, millions will become migrants.
    And God forbid the Saudis use their nuclear bombs (which they have), then there will also be an environmental disaster.
    So it’s useless to compare how many tanchiki parties and frigates have ... if Shiites and Sunnis, like fighting cocks, are pitted to get PROFIT and POWER.
    World has gone mad!
    1. Former battalion commander
      Former battalion commander 6 January 2016 17: 36
      0
      World has gone mad!


      No respected, those who destroy their country of mind never had! And the p.i.s.d.s.s.I ALWAYS used this! World War One, who benefited? And who went broke? Revolution! Who benefits and who is busted? World War II! The benefits of the same, the same broke! REorganization! Who benefits? Who is broke and who is fighting with their ex-brothers? Those who are taught, taught, but they all come and go on the same rake! No mind, consider cripples!
    2. dsi
      dsi 6 January 2016 17: 46
      +1
      You are on the site "Military Review", therefore, leave emotions in your personal ...
    3. Olegovi4
      Olegovi4 6 January 2016 22: 04
      0
      Quote: karavay82
      and wonder how much we hardened

      it's just that we have seen both the left flank and the right in our lives. and ran with a machine gun and counted the cartridges. just then the head was busy with the fact that it was necessary to "break through" and survive. and now, with the understanding of who provided us with those "unforgettable impressions", I really want to return that boomerang "home".
  31. Signaller
    Signaller 6 January 2016 13: 22
    +2
    In the article. Darkness. That's it. But for me, let someone start, but there we will think. In the meantime, only everyone in the third position is standing, music is waiting. Or maybe nothing will happen ?????. I think it will be so, but what kind of kipizh ????? Become threats and all that. And as a result, the PZHIK can appear. Everything will sound like a beep, which has already happened more than once.
  32. wicked pinnochio
    wicked pinnochio 6 January 2016 13: 47
    +1
    friendship chainsaw will win
  33. gg.na
    gg.na 6 January 2016 13: 48
    +1
    You’re boiling up in the Middle East with the aim of terrifying everyone in the world! Well, let them try and think that now everyone will be afraid of what the Middle East may flare up with what ..., especially RUSSIA will become docile and accommodating! Yes, here you are negative here bite! lol Nor will we become under anyone else and for whatever reason go to bed! bully
  34. chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 6 January 2016 14: 20
    0
    Another "Internet expert" shared the skin of a bear that was not killed. With such "ikspertah" it is not surprising that we constantly have some kind of .. happens.
    Five comments that change everything.
    1. Nuclear weapons. CA owns nuclear weapons stored in Pakistan.
    2. Means of delivery. The SA owns delivery vehicles with a range of up to 4000 km. Even the suburbs fall into the coverage area. Missiles and nuclear weapons from SA from 60 to 120 pcs., How many nuclear weapons from Iran? Does Iran have anti-aircraft defense that can fight nuclear weapons?
    3. Allies. The SA has allies - the USA, Israel, Turkey, Pakistan and all Sunnis. Iran? There are about ten times more Sunites than Shiites, in a war of extermination they can stupidly fill up corpses.
    = http: //www.nationalsecurity.ru/maps/muslimdistribution.htm=
    4. Money, CA is ten times richer than Iran. "God is on the side of the big battalions." There is money - there are troops, there is no money, ...
    5. The strategic position. Iran is surrounded on all sides by Sunni countries, if anything, a secure supply is possible only through the Caspian Sea. SA is surrounded by allies and through them has access to the open ocean.
    1. Former battalion commander
      Former battalion commander 6 January 2016 17: 28
      +1
      A little clarification. Everything that you wrote is correct, BUT! Big money here plays rather a NEGATIVE role! Why? Because you want to TAKE them in your hands! Saddam had a lot of money, so what? They were tidied up and divided! Gaddafi had a lot of money, so what? They were tidied up and divided! Assad also tidied up the money! So, most likely the USA and Europe are not on the side of the Saudis here!
      1. chunga-changa
        chunga-changa 6 January 2016 19: 21
        -1
        Quote: Former battalion commander
        USA and Europe are not on the side of the Saudis

        But certainly not on the side of Iran. More precisely, the Anglo-Saxons are always on their side. Yes, the CA will also be divided, but then. It all depends on Israel, as soon as the Jews decide that all their problems with neighbors are settled, the turn of fat sheep will come. The fate of Pakistan will be the most interesting; at the same time it is needed both as an adversary of India and as a dangerous ally of China.
  35. opus
    opus 6 January 2016 14: 44
    0
    Quote: Author Leonid Nersisyan
    The war of Iran and Saudi Arabia: who will win?

    You should start reading the article with the AUTHOR ... Whatever time is wasted



    Lenchik ... "military" observer of course ...


    such pearls, such pearls ...


    in the spirit of:
    Screaming despair, scolding old women,
    The rattle of steps at the door peephole -
    Sometimes I really want to turn off the sound
    Pull the trigger at the temple.


    Olga Arefieva, The Trigger
    1. Oleg7700
      Oleg7700 6 January 2016 18: 00
      +1
      But someone puts on the site an Armenian nerd boy as a "specialist", without, of course, Arabic and Farsi, not to mention everything else, and this is seriously discussed ... Someone on the resource is satisfied with this level of "analytics "?
      1. opus
        opus 7 January 2016 00: 11
        +1
        Quote: Oleg7700
        Anyone on the resource is satisfied with this level of "analytics"?

        chief ("site") - satisfied.
        Lonchik

        strongly promoted by IA Regnum (xs knows who: office mold, victims of the exam, etc.)



        1.Do not strain ("military seEkspErt" name on hearing: advertising, denyuzhka)
        2. I tell you (advertising, denyuzhka)
        maybe protektsiya what? belay
    2. alone
      alone 6 January 2016 18: 49
      0
      Quote: opus
      Lenchik ... "military" observer of course ...

      Did he even serve anywhere? I doubt it. Often he carries such nonsense that even Khramchikhin nervously smokes on the sidelines.

      Why should the SA and Iran fight among themselves destroying the infrastructure of their countries. There are enough other countries whose territories serve as a training ground for the war.
      The Saudis and Iran are only verbally strongholds of the Sunnis and Shiites respectively. They have their own interests in these matters.
      1. opus
        opus 7 January 2016 00: 05
        0
        Quote: lonely
        Did he even serve anywhere?

        You take a look and stop the photo
        Quote: lonely
        I doubt it.


        he approaches the AK74 (for disassembly) exclusively from the side of the "trigger"
    3. nersmail
      7 January 2016 02: 25
      +1
      Throwing mud at strangers is of course great valor. Were not too lazy to even google something. If anything, I have quite a military specialty - a surgeon. And I certainly have more knowledge about many specific things than a conscript (battle poisons, military field surgery, etc.). As for the military review - this is journalism, I have never claimed the title of "expert". As for the forecasts - I rarely make mistakes - so they publish me with pleasure, and not only Regnum, but also Lenta.ru and KP. You also did not read this article carefully, a full-scale war is considered here as the least likely scenario, but we must not forget about it either.

      P.S. I will not even comment on the user "Lonely" - he is from Baku, so a priori he will hate me because of my surname. A familiar situation.
      1. opus
        opus 7 January 2016 14: 41
        +1
        Quote: nersmail
        Pouring mud at strangers is of course great valor.

        1. I did not water, but expressed my opinion.
        Here you are:

        do you personally know the "giants of the defense industry complex"? At least one? Is this of course "great valor"?
        Or here (Ronald Reagan and members of the CPSU Central Committee):

        pulse measured? Varelyanka gave?
        not "muddying"?
        well and so on.
        How is your dirt very different from mine?
        2. Not "unfamiliar" - I read articles until I got bored
        Quote: nersmail
        . If anything - I have quite a military specialty - a surgeon.

        Glad.
        I'm here with V.A. Khachatryan. I played chess several times (he was "virtually" without a board, and I was with it) and lost miserably, but I’m not going to discuss neurosurgery with him. I’m not in my thoughts, and cannot be.
        And he does not discuss with me about boosting TB with heated TCs, after a cooling shirt ....
        And with the Muslims, they just finished barking about branded clothes for Muslim women .... and Sharia.
        But I won’t judge: who is KSA or Iran?
        In a public article, anyway.
        Quote: nersmail
        I have never claimed the title of "expert".

        Expert - specialist, Giving conclusion when considering any issue.
        Military - a war (serviceman) associated with it (with the army, with military service.)

        I am here for:

        Military Korotchenko was transferred to the reserve in the fall of 1994 by decision of the attestation commission, which considered that he does not correspond to his position. However, in 99, Korotchenko received the rank of lieutenant colonel, without going through even any procedures mandatory at the time (such as fees, offsets, etc.).
        K. graduated from the Tambov Higher Military Aviation School named after Dzerzhinsky), but did not even command a platoon in the army, he never worked in the military-industrial complex ....
        Former Chairman of the Public Council at the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, and now - military expert and analyst Igor Korotchenko
        Quote: nersmail
        and not only Regnum, but also Lenta.ru and KP.

        these 3 editions - well, do not inspire confidence in me, in general
        1. opus
          opus 7 January 2016 14: 47
          0
          Quote: nersmail
          you also did not read carefully

          I confess. But maybe you are "alive" and reacted (I must admit it is more correct than I have here inherited):
          1. Accept apologies if offended
          Really, from 2dushi ", re-read it bent. PPP probably, and -29grs affect
          2. I will read completely. As I find time.
          Well, let's better about surgery? What about "Does Russia have an antidote to US missile defense?"
          Quote: nersmail
          I won’t - he is from Baku, which means a priori

          Here I am honestly I can’t understand: 2a of my acquaintances, an Armenian and an Azerbaijani, to listen to their controversy. So much new ...
          Azerbaijan is an honest business partner.
          An Armenian, as it were, too (well, I have complaints), but the workers that he sent to "help" ... brrr, has been beating for 3 years (and everything fell apart)
          What to do?
          1. nersmail
            7 January 2016 14: 56
            0
            That is, the United States and the Russian Federation do not exchange attacks on missile defense and strategic deterrence at the highest level? (and in the media and even more so). Scandinavians have not increased their military budgets? Lockheed Martin is not profitable to sell Norway F-35? Well, I do not agree with the opinion - and write what and where exactly - I have nothing against it.

            P.S. that is, in your opinion, to write an article on a specific subject (Strategic Missile Forces, for example) only a colonel at least acting in this class of troops, or a gene can. constructor?))
            Journalists do not pretend to be an expert (like me - if you see an "expert" next to my name somewhere - this is the work of the site's reactions, on the contrary, I swear at it). The task of a journalist (observer) is to analyze open news and sources and draw conclusions . If you don't like this format, nobody forces you to read it.

            P.S. on Armenians and Azerbaijanis. Take whoever you want, only money matters in the Russian Federation. These are internal graters in which I have not participated for a long time.

            As for Korotchenko, what about him? He is a propagandist, busy with his business))
            1. opus
              opus 7 January 2016 17: 12
              0
              Quote: nersmail
              That is, the US and the Russian Federation do not exchange attacks on missile defense and strategic deterrence at the highest level?

              Well, this is not "hysteria".
              I remember everything. It was calm.
              At a political meeting about the bombing of the Kremlin from the Shuttle, we both *** (in general, they strongly criticized the political scientist)
              Quote: nersmail
              Lockheed Martin is not profitable to sell Norway F-35?

              no
              Quote: nersmail
              that is, in your opinion write an article

              well, at least the person who is in the subject: technical university, the one who saw rockets at least in Dmitrovo
              Quote: nersmail
              on the contrary, I swear at it

              I honestly do not know. BUT I think the AUTHOR subscribes? OR?

              Quote: nersmail
              analyze open news and sources and draw conclusions.

              I personally haven’t seen any analysis from journalists, practically.
              The journal is well described in Crichton's Wings.
              In essence. The salt itself. And 100% true
              Quote: nersmail
              As for Korotchenko, what does he have to do with it?

              he is nominated (and considers himself) a MILITARY EXPERT

              Igor Yurievich Korotchenko - Russian journalist, military expert, editor-in-chief of the National Defense magazine; Director, World Arms Trade Analysis Center; Member of the Public Council at the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation since February 8, 2012, reserve colonel.

              Chairman of the Public Council under the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation (February 8, 2012 - April 24, 2013), was the editor-in-chief of the Military-Industrial Courier weekly.
              Therefore, he brought him as a military expert
              1. nersmail
                7 January 2016 17: 42
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                They sign up haphazardly when they take an article and repost / rewrite it to other resources. Then anything is put into the headline and into the content. Once I was "Kremlin" or something, I don't remember already.
                1. opus
                  opus 7 January 2016 19: 40
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                  Quote: nersmail
                  ... Once I was "Kremlin" or something, I don't remember already.

                  Lada won. I already apologized (and explained why so).
                  Let's talk about field surgery (since you are special in this matter).
                  Once I was fine in the field (or rather, on the shore) a lacerated wound was sewn up on the elbow with the help of a fishing line and a fishing hook (with a broken-off sting essno).
                  It struck me
  36. KBPC50
    KBPC50 6 January 2016 16: 19
    +1
    Full-scale war - chaos for many years! And not just many. The instigator here is the United States, Britain, France, Germany and Italy. All of them benefit from the war in this region. Oil can be bought for glass beads. Or just offer more tanks. To whom? And who will be chosen and given. Other tanks will not. So they will rob as they want. Everything is simple, as during the reign of Britain - divide and conquer. Everything is like two and two. There are so many Arab tribes that everyone wants a tank, or at least a wedge heel. Forward Europe (Nazi Territory)! Rob Arabs !.
  37. Fearless
    Fearless 6 January 2016 16: 35
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    How did the Americans get their nose everywhere, they would have to arrange a war in America so that they would not go to others and know what it was like to live in a war.
  38. Former battalion commander
    Former battalion commander 6 January 2016 17: 22
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    Answering a question in the title of the article, we can say that P.I.N.D.O.S.I.A. Saudi and Iranian money will be taken away. Russia will also benefit slightly by raising oil prices. China will lose, having lost oil suppliers and due to higher prices for it.
  39. fa2998
    fa2998 6 January 2016 18: 20
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    Quote: Tourist Breakfast
    Developed air defense system (and the Jewish "Domes" are coming)

    I see New Year's holidays are fun. You would have noted easier there.

    Holidays are going according to plan! And I will not argue with you, only last October the Council of Arab States asked Israel to sell the Iron Dome, and suddenly the Saudis began to shoot down the Scuds! hi
    1. alone
      alone 6 January 2016 18: 50
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      Quote: fa2998
      only last October, the Council of Arab States turned to Israel to sell the Iron Dome, and suddenly the Sauds began to shoot down the Scuds.


      They also have Patriot systems that can also knock down Scuds.
  40. DPN
    DPN 6 January 2016 20: 27
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    I bet on IRAN! and Russian weapons.!
    1. alone
      alone 6 January 2016 20: 40
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      Quote: DPN
      I bet on IRAN! and Russian weapons.!

      Not worth it! There will be no direct military action. It is unrealistic. Iran himself understands this. Saudis too. How many such people were executed in both states. Thousands. Theologian is not the first and not the last.
  41. Arkan
    Arkan 6 January 2016 21: 46
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    Oh, I’ve been saying it for a year now — well, give Iran a couple of good warheads ... But no one is listening to me. (((And in the region, as before - no balance.)))
  42. DimerVladimer
    DimerVladimer 11 January 2016 11: 11
    +1
    Quote: opus
    Quote: nersmail
    you also did not read carefully

    I confess. But maybe you are "alive" and reacted (I must admit it is more correct than I have here inherited):
    1. Accept apologies if offended
    Really, from 2dushi ", re-read it bent. PPP probably, and -29grs affect
    2. I will read completely. As I find time.
    Well, let's better about surgery? What about "Does Russia have an antidote to US missile defense?"
    Quote: nersmail
    I won’t - he is from Baku, which means a priori

    Here I am honestly I can’t understand: 2a of my acquaintances, an Armenian and an Azerbaijani, to listen to their controversy. So much new ...
    Azerbaijan is an honest business partner.
    An Armenian, as it were, too (well, I have complaints), but the workers that he sent to "help" ... brrr, has been beating for 3 years (and everything fell apart)
    What to do?


    I agree.
    To call this person an "expert" is like a tractor Belarus - a tank ...
    Not understanding geopolitical processes and at the same time trying to interpret them ... I am very depressed by the level of "expert opinion".