Military personnel will no longer dismiss from the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation without housing

By his decree, Vladimir Putin forbade the dismissal of military men who had served 10 for more than 10 years without providing them with residential premises or subsidies for its purchase, reports RIA News with reference to the website of legal information.

"A soldier whose total duration of military service is 10 years or more, in need of residential premises, without his consent, cannot be dismissed from military service after reaching the age limit for military service, due to health reasons or due to organizational and staff activities without providing him with a dwelling or a subsidy for the purchase or construction of a dwelling according to the standards established by housing legislation ",

it is said in the decree “On the inclusion in the Regulations on the procedure for military service, approved by the Decree of the President of the Russian Federation dated 16 September 1999, No. 1237”.

“A soldier who has expressed a desire to get a dwelling not at the place of dismissal from military service is fired and provided with dwelling in accordance with the legislation of the Russian Federation,” the document says.

Comments

[seti]

This is a step in the right direction.

[vovanpain]

The step is both correct and necessary, only on the ground, it would not have been buried as many times already, we will hope for the best.

[222222]

Well .will not be fired, then WHAT? .. Apartments will not be added ...
.. I need a comprehensive program with the allocation of funds. And the authorities from the Ministry of Defense of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation to the districts that would do this ..
for example:
1. service housing from a lieutenant and above. Bachelors and married with everything necessary for life
2. for example. After 15 years of service, the issuance of a loan to purchase your home .. anywhere in Russia. You wish more .. area-pay
3.differentiation ... depending on the position and military rank ... higher -more ..

[Uran]

organs must control this matter. so that there would be no scam who gives keys

[SRC P-15]

“A soldier who has expressed a desire to get a dwelling not at the place of dismissal from military service is fired and provided with dwelling in accordance with the legislation of the Russian Federation,” the document says.

Does this mean that a serviceman upon dismissal can get an apartment for free only at the place of dismissal?

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: СРЦ П-15

Does this mean that a serviceman upon dismissal can get an apartment for free only at the place of dismissal?

Yes, this paragraph is interpreted as ambiguous.
On the other hand, when receiving housing, a / c at least has the opportunity to sell it and buy an apartment in any other subject of the RF.
Late this decision was made, five years earlier, but better late than never.
It would not be bad if for those w / w who independently solved their housing problem, the state somehow provided for compensation for the initiative, at least with a one-time payment of the tax deduction from the purchase of an apartment.
A tax deduction of 2 thousand is returned from the set bar of 260 million rubles, despite the fact that you paid this amount from your salary as income tax for the three years preceding your dismissal or as a working pensioner. If more than 3 unemployed years have passed since the moment you were transferred to the reserve, nothing is right for you. Here, the government decided to cut the indexation of working pensioners, which also deprives the former military personnel who independently decided their housing problem, the opportunity to return part of their costs through a tax deduction.

[igorka357]

Most likely it will be so, because after serving somewhere on the land of France-Joseph, nobody will provide you with an apartment near the Moscow Ring Road, but the decree is excellent, it would be possible to control it for good!

[Lexa-149]

A lot of my colleagues who served much further south (in the Tajik-Afghan border area) got apartments in Moscow and the nearest suburbs.

[remy]

the pebble has moved

[Lexa-149]

“A soldier who has expressed a desire to receive premises NOT at the place of dismissal from military service is dismissed and provided with premises in accordance with the legislation of the Russian Federation,” the document says.

[Proxima]

So for information. Over the past two years, in terms of the volume of housing construction, Russia has beaten the record set by the RSFSR under Brezhnev. For me personally, these are not just dry numbers - I have been living in a new apartment for two years (mortgage). So, maybe not so "everything is gone" with us?

[Vadim237]

Only throughout Russia there are still no settled huts.

[Proxima]

Quote: Vadim237

Only throughout Russia there are still no settled huts.

I agree. Things aren’t yet to rotate, but what am I doing all this ... If EBN had made such a statement in due time, then I would have only one question for him: was he sober enough? This is with such a terrible drop in housing construction! Putin can promise this and the most encouraging thing is that there is a real chance that this will be done. I have many acquaintances who have received new apartments. It is one thing when a politician promises, and another thing when you see the result with your own eyes. So let's hope.

[34 region]

And how many years did you take a mortgage? Are you on a budget?

[Proxima]

Quote: 34 region

And how many years did you take a mortgage? Are you on a budget?

For 10 years. 7,5 years left to pay. And then I took out a loan for finishing the apartment. It's hard, but I had to take it anyway, otherwise it would have turned out like alcoholics: "there was enough money for a bubble, but not for a snack ..."

[igorka357]

It’s true, it’s kind of being built, but who ... and how? As they say, quality leaves much to be desired!

[Archon]

not all housing is affordable. many houses are half empty for a long time.

[seregatara1969]

so it was before. the soldier must have his own house

[dmi.pris1]

There are enough swindlers in the army (the same representatives of the people). Strict control over this decree is necessary.

[Sergey Vladimirovich]

Heard, written and read more than once ... Hope this time for the young generation, which still serves ... God forbid! So that everything will come true for them! ...

[Fitter65]

This is just an explanation to those zadorvans who, contrary to this law, in 2015 fired people without housing (in our garrison three were fired like that), people are then reinstated through the courts. They are again trying on the basis of the order of the Ministry of Defense (which somehow interestingly canceled the federal law) to dismiss them motivating that you are delaying your dismissal ... A simple example is offered an apartment according to the law (but you will pay half the cost), of course, the bulk of that money does not, refusal, the second time they offer the same eggs, then you just have an option or again an apartment with an additional payment, or the subsidy (not everyone is profitable) refusal and everything went to demobilization. As comrade Shvondeo said: “But we are by the rules.” Someone having served 30 nafig from the forge without a hut, and someone on a military mortgage a second apartment at the expense of The MO takes, and all this is according to the law_all according to the rules ...

[Egevich]

Quote: Fitter65

This is just an explanation to those zadorvans who, contrary to this law, in 2015 fired people without housing (in our garrison three were fired like that), people are then reinstated through the courts. They are again trying on the basis of the order of the Ministry of Defense (which somehow interestingly canceled the federal law) to dismiss them motivating that you are delaying your dismissal ... A simple example is offered an apartment according to the law (but you will pay half the cost), of course, the bulk of that money does not, refusal, the second time they offer the same eggs, then you just have an option or again an apartment with an additional payment, or the subsidy (not everyone is profitable) refusal and everything went to demobilization. As comrade Shvondeo said: “But we are by the rules.” Someone having served 30 nafig from the forge without a hut, and someone on a military mortgage a second apartment at the expense of The MO takes, and all this is according to the law_all according to the rules ...

a couple of doubts they take me about half the cost, honestly, exaggerated, why? ...
have you forgotten about the provision rate? I remind you - 18 sq. m per person, plus an allowable free excess of 9 sq. m., total - if you want more - pay extra yourself ...
for clarity, a simple example - a family of 4 people - husband, wife, 2 children. 18x4 + 9 = 81 sq.m.
if not enough, then for 20-40 squares you can pay at market value.

[Fitter65]

Personally, I was offered with a surcharge of 457t.r - since the housing I was allocated for was not in the region that I chose, apartments of an even larger area were offered again. 20-30 squares — I was just the head of the control room, but not like a nachfin, or the chief of fuel and lubricants. And people like me are several orders of magnitude more than those who can pay for it.

[nov_tech.vrn]

I got a three-room by law for a family, and according to the certificate they tried to send, it would be one-room and somewhere in tiguli

[bylec]

there is a lot of shit in Russia and it’s not enough to exterminate everything for 1000 years. But at least some progress is

[Masya masya]

"or subsidies for its purchase", there are big doubts about subsidies ...

[Shturmovik]

I do not know why you have doubts, at the end of 2014 I received a subsidy for the purchase (construction) of housing, a quite decent amount. I bought two apartments (one finished, the other for rent in January) and continuing to serve very pleased. I’ll make a reservation right away, I’m not a food commander, not a deputy commander. Length of service 23 calendar, preferential more than 35

[Great-grandfather of Zeus]

I’ll just say, God forbid! Otherwise, the military will deal primarily with housing and not with service issues should go down in history.

[pts-m]

our state, like that Armenian with holey pockets. the owner needs to constantly clap his pockets. reminding those sitting there that the owner of the pocket is not the owner of the Armenian. that’s all salt. it’s not for nothing that the people have been saying for a long time ... but Vaska listens, but eats ... or ... flew into one ear, and flew through the other ...

[spinner]

In our country, only the military need housing, the rest are all provided. Young families live in luxurious mansions and not in miserable 12sq m.

[DobryAAH]

It’s a pity your British young families are somewhat better in Russia. By the way, your military.

[Fitter65]

Quote: twister

In our country, only the military need housing, the rest are all provided. Young families live in luxurious mansions and not in miserable 12sq m.

Actually, yes. I served for 31 years, I didn’t have time to do my arrangement. Year to Back, I was in one garrison, then in another, a couple of days later they transfer me to third, I certainly exaggerate. But the meaning is clear. they didn’t ask me if I wanted to go to this or that garrison, AND IF YOU FAMILY GIVED A ROOM IN THE COMMUNITY 3.2mX2.1m with a sink and a socket, it was already happiness. so do not compare the X ... and the tram handle.

[Egevich]

But what, before it was possible to fire a serviceman for the maximum, OSHM or health condition, who served for at least 10 years, without housing? my example - 13 calendars, 22 total, dismissal according to "D" - more than a year was available. They gave housing - they were excluded from the lists. What's the catch, what did I do wrong?
The answer is that before it was impossible to dismiss without the consent of a soldier, a report was written on the chosen place of receipt of housing. And now - we read carefully, AT THE PLACE OF SERVICE, and not at the place chosen by the military personnel. But in general it’s right, I know a couple of such officers, since 2010 they’re still behind the staff, they’re turning their nose, they’re getting salaries ... But you can tell me, the toad is strangling ...

[Fitter65]

Well, I stood behind the state from 2010 to July 2015, so what? If instead of my chosen place of residence they offered me anything, right up to the housing under which only the foundation pit was dug (and for some reason everything was at extra cost), what should I take it? Who three years before my dismissal prevented the Ministry of Defense from taking into account my desire and allocating housing for me at the chosen place? Is it all simple, they’re sitting lazy and lazy to tear the seat from the chair, they slipped papers under the cloth, and then they will give me a hut, or I agree what they’ll offer, or he’ll leave for an increase ... Even a year they gave me a subsidy, then there’s no certificate (which I passed 25 years old, then I need to provide a certificate from SGV that I rented an apartment in Poland (?) It’s simply indiscriminate that people simply have they sit and get paid, so it’s purely due to the fact that someone didn’t work, that’s how you think it’s easier to find a job at 45 or 51g ...

[Egevich]

Quote: Fitter65

Well, I stood behind the state from 2010 to July 2015, so what? If instead of my chosen place of residence they offered me anything, right up to the housing under which only the foundation pit was dug (and for some reason everything was at extra cost), what should I take it? Who three years before my dismissal prevented the Ministry of Defense from taking into account my desire and allocating housing for me at the chosen place? Is it all simple, they’re sitting lazy and lazy to tear the seat from the chair, they slipped papers under the cloth, and then they will give me a hut, or I agree what they’ll offer, or he’ll leave for an increase ... Even a year they gave me a subsidy, then there’s no certificate (which I passed 25 years old, then I need to provide a certificate from SGV that I rented an apartment in Poland (?) It’s simply indiscriminate that people simply have they sit and get paid, so it’s purely due to the fact that someone didn’t work, that’s how you think it’s easier to find a job at 45 or 51g ...

excuse me, but they even grind the cadets that the certificates on the delivery of housing are sacred ... and who is to blame for not keeping them? but in fact, yes, no one interfered with doing everything humanly ... but tell me honestly, when did the problems of a simple officer matter? maybe yes, but not under this power ... in the end, everything worked out, I hope? ..

[Fitter65]

Quote: Egevich

excuse me, but they even grind the cadets that the certificates on the delivery of housing are sacred ... and who is to blame for not keeping them? but in fact, yes, no one interfered with doing everything humanly ... but tell me honestly, when did the problems of a simple officer matter? maybe yes, but not under this power ... in the end, everything worked out, I hope? ..

According to the same law, this certificate is valid for 5 years, and must be provided from the last place of service. If you have served in the last place for more than 5 years, then you do not need to provide this certificate, this is the second time you receive service housing at a new place of service, you pass the certificate that you they gave me away from the old duty station, otherwise you won’t get housing. Yes, I did it. But considering that some require attention to the wife’s birth certificate, why? The answer is that her friend’s maiden name contains an apartment or some other kind of housing. It just seemed like people, by hook or by crook, were trying to refuse to pay subsidies — moreover, it came to insanity — the Military Prosecutor’s Office decides one by one that the requirements of the RUZHO are not legitimate, since the MO order does not contain such documents in the list of documents. comes to Rouge, another snow, again, they demand this left package of documents. The question was that the prosecutor’s office issued a resolution yesterday, a competent answer, but it’s not for you, that's when they will take it out for you then and you won’t collect these papers. I’m asked why did your daughter write the power of attorney not for you but for the mother? Such a power of attorney doesn’t need to be written out for the one who draws up the documents. That's the whole demand. It seems that in these regional housing administrations people are ready to do anything — if you don’t do anything. That’s the paper from one office to another two months go. Then in the same office a month and a half between the tables they move. Then they just disappeared. that they were mistakenly put into the archive ....

[My doctor]

The people and the army are one?

[DobryAAH]

The answer is yes.

[vladimirvn]

It was in the previous Law On Status. The main news is that you can fire a soldier who has refused the proposed housing in his chosen place. Tired of these loafers who have not been in the service for years and are getting tens of thousands of salaries for nothing. I already wrote a comment on this topic, but apparently I got out of topic, deleted.

[Pete mitchell]

I don’t remember exactly, but it seems it already happened. Whether housing for demobilization, or compensation, how many people "rose", the housing issue has always been an expanse for crooks, as well as finances.

[Svatdevostator]

I bought housing on a military mortgage, up to 20 calendars I’m 9 years old, in fact my housing but if I quit, I have to pay the mortgage, the question is, can’t I get fired too until I got the mortgage?

[Fitter65]

The law clearly states: length of service of 10 years or more for those dismissed after reaching the age limit, due to health reasons, or according to the OShM. On the MO website, this provision is described, because there are so many nuances.

[kirpich]

Finally, people will be provided with a roof over their heads.
Only one moment is not taken into account ... WHERE? IN WHICH AREA?
After all, it may happen that a soldier poked around with his family
in the most remote garrisons, retired and received housing
in .... the city of Borzya (the first thing that came to mind). Do you think a person will be happy?

[Fitter65]

Read the Federal Law, the order of the Ministry of Defense there is clearly written. If it is not clear to the military officer, there are explanations and explanations. Moreover, everything is clear and intelligibly explained. After reading these comments, it becomes much more interesting to talk with officials from JO .. when you ask them a question why in the order of the Moscow Region a soldier needs only 3 certificates, and you require 8 *

[Leader]

Why this decree, if it is already spelled out in the law?
Another thing is how it is performed. It would be better to do it.
Some kind of populist "news".

[Olegater]

The law is law, and it is still necessary to execute it. I have the opinion that the army is being strengthened so that more volunteers go there and the motive to get an apartment is more than significant. And during the war, the MO will have enough soldiers motivated to defend their land, by the way a good move. That's just the time lost with the Serdyukovism. And another moment, but what about the reductions in the Ministry of Emergencies of the Federal Drug Control Service and the CIS Affairs from 01.01.2016g.

[The black]

Quote: СРЦ П-15

Does this mean that a serviceman upon dismissal can get an apartment for free only at the place of dismissal?

No, Alexander does not mean.

[private person]

ALL TO THE ARMY !!! And the major who was captured in Ukraine and trembling in front of the camera like a cowardly dog, he quartermaster will also receive an apartment ?? And how GRUSHNIKI who are in captivity but do not whine but are kept like men. In my opinion, the difference is obvious. THE LAW NEEDS TO WORK AND FOLLOW THAT IT IS PERFORMED,

[Egevich]

Quote: private person

ALL TO THE ARMY !!! And the major who was captured in Ukraine and trembling in front of the camera like a cowardly dog, he quartermaster will also receive an apartment ?? And how GRUSHNIKI who are in captivity but do not whine but are kept like men. In my opinion, the difference is obvious. THE LAW NEEDS TO WORK AND FOLLOW THAT IT IS PERFORMED,

I wonder how you would behave in captivity? ... so, purely hypothetically ...
minus mine - did not swim - not p ... di

[reader1964]

"Give up hope, everyone who enters here." The President issues good decrees, but the great and mighty JOE will find an opportunity to deprive you of your right to housing, do not hesitate! JOE is faced with the task of shortening the queue, and he does it literally, in orderly rows he excludes the "apartmentless" from the queue for any errors.

[kirpich]

szuka ..... do not deprive people of hope ...

[private person]

Quote: Egevich

Quote: private person

ALL TO THE ARMY !!! And the major who was captured in Ukraine and trembling in front of the camera like a cowardly dog, he quartermaster will also receive an apartment ?? And how GRUSHNIKI who are in captivity but do not whine but are kept like men. In my opinion, the difference is obvious. THE LAW NEEDS TO WORK AND FOLLOW THAT IT IS PERFORMED,

I wonder how you would behave in captivity? ... so, purely hypothetically ...
minus mine - did not swim - not p ... di

Well, he’s not like he is a major and cried that he’s only a supply agent. probably he’s always ready to sell something. BUT HE IS MAYOR THIS EVERYTHING IS SAID !!!

[private person]

Quote: private person

Quote: Egevich

Quote: private person

ALL TO THE ARMY !!! And the major who was captured in Ukraine and trembling in front of the camera like a cowardly dog, he quartermaster will also receive an apartment ?? And how GRUSHNIKI who are in captivity but do not whine but are kept like men. In my opinion, the difference is obvious. THE LAW NEEDS TO WORK AND FOLLOW THAT IT IS PERFORMED,

I wonder how you would behave in captivity? ... so, purely hypothetically ...
minus mine - did not swim - not p ... di

Well, he’s not like he is a major and cried that he’s only a supply agent. probably he’s always ready to sell something. BUT HE IS MAYOR THIS EVERYTHING IS SAID !!!

I would like to listen to the reviews of these majors

[kit-kat]

Fuck a fly ..... Why is such an injustice, huh?

[iouris]

Is it really a well-forgotten old? It may turn out that the serviceman is not fired so as not to provide housing.