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Future War of the Worlds (Wprost, Poland)

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Future War of the Worlds (Wprost, Poland)



The media is now focused on the war with the "Islamic State", but world military giants are preparing their armies for conflict on an incomparably larger scale.

The current clash with ISIL, previous Western operations in Afghanistan and Iraq, or the Russian invasion of Georgia and Ukraine - this is only an anticipation of what the architects of the “great war” are preparing for. Can it break out? Similarly, in none of those places that are known to us from the latest press reports. It will not be Syria, Iraq or Palestine, where local fires smolder, from time to time requiring military intervention, and not a war for life and death. Faced in the "great war" can now (or be able in the near future) only a few states that set the direction of military world initiatives. This is primarily about the United States or NATO as a whole, China, Russia and India. Their aspirations are aimed in one direction: to consolidate or acquire the ability to wage war on the scale of the entire globe or, at least, the eastern hemisphere (Russians, Chinese, Hindus).

The United States, thanks to its safe position between the two oceans, is guided by the expeditionary nature of its army, the other three powers - by actions in reliance on its territory. If a global scale conflict breaks out, not every corner of the world will be equally threatened by fire. The theater of the “great war” will become if the USA and China collide in it, primarily the Pacific Ocean and East Asia; and, if the Alliance clashes with Moscow, the strip between Russia and the NATO states is from the Arctic to the Mediterranean. It should be noted that in the second case Poland will be exactly in the middle of the potential front.

From the air and from the sea

The form of each future “great war” is set by the United States, although they rather do not initiate it, since it is a state that protects what it has and not the hungry ascending power. America sets and for decades will set the tone for strategy, military technology and the study of new spheres of reality for military purposes. There is no other state in the world that can be compared in this respect with America. China is only an imitator, although this does not at all mean that it cannot soon become very dangerous. The military preparations of Americans is a derivative of the three fundamental points of the US strategic doctrine, which has remained unchanged since the beginning of the 19th century and is only complemented by new areas emerging with the development of technology. First, the Americans are trying to prevent the development of forces in the American continents that will be able to threaten the United States on land.

Second, the Americans want to dominate the North Atlantic and the North Pacific, so as not to allow the enemy to approach its coast. Thirdly, they do not want to allow one power to dominate in Eurasia, because in general it exceeds the potential of the United States and could defeat them. The second point is the most dynamic. Washington derived from it the doctrine of domination on the world's oceans inherited from the British (it is better to rule over all the world's waters than just over their northern fragment), in the air and in space, as well as in cyberspace. Each of these areas can be a threat to Americans, therefore, they need to be controlled.

The United States consistently implements the above points, as a result, the conflict on American territory has become impossible, and the likelihood of an air attack is severely limited, so that America will lead the future “great war” far from its shores. In recent years, this has been reflected in the concept of AirSea Battle - an air-sea collision. This leading American concept has recently changed its name, but we will remain at the old one. ASB is a response to the threat from China. The strategy is both defensive and offensive in nature and will be deployed in several areas: in the air, at sea, on land, in space and cyberspace. Simply put, we are talking about protecting our bases and transport routes in Asia and the Pacific, as well as defeating the enemy’s defenses.

Lurking dragon

China has been developing attacks in the past ten years to defeat US Pacific bases and strike forces fleet (ballistic and cruise missiles, planes invisible to radar, over-the-horizon radar stations). The People’s Liberation Army of China wants to be able to break through the so-called first row of islands, that is, American military installations and defense systems of US allies in the western Pacific (Philippines, Taiwan, Okinawa, the Japanese archipelago). The Beijing authorities are also thinking about breaking through the second row of islands, that is, the American security belt stretching from Japan to Papua New Guinea (Mariana Islands with a large air and sea base in Guam, Bonin Islands, Iwo Jima, sometimes Midway Island is added to this) . Further - already the territory of the USA: Hawaii and the west coast.

The purpose of the Americans in the framework of the ASB is simple: do not allow China to go beyond the first row of islands and smash the American military potential because of this cover. The conflict will begin with simultaneous parallel attacks on computer networks, satellites, radar systems and guidance, to blind and stun the enemy. Then there will be attack aircraft, ballistic and cruise missiles to destroy the military infrastructure. If it comes to the use of nuclear weapons, the United States will surely win the war. But if this is only a conventional conflict, the situation will be complicated. In the first phase of the collision can win more technically advanced Americans, but the outcome of the second, that is, a tough confrontation with the participation of aircraft, bombs, ships and soldiers, does not look obvious. As shown by computer models created by order of the US Department of Defense, Chinese aircraft and rockets, although they are not so technologically perfect, can break through the American defense system thanks to a large number of attack units. Four fifths of them will, however, be destroyed, but the remaining ones will be enough to cause great destruction in the first and even second row of islands, as well as in the Third (base in San Diego) and the Seventh (Yokohama) US fleets operating in the Pacific Ocean.

Both sides have sufficient potential for a long-lasting conflict of a total nature and, most importantly, they are preparing for it. Just in case.

To the west

In the collision of NATO with Russia, the situation will be exactly the opposite compared with China. If this is a nuclear conflict, Moscow will have many chances if it doesn’t win, but to achieve a decent world, as it has enough nuclear potential to cause destruction on an incredible scale in Europe and even the United States. If the conflict is conventional, Russia has no chance.

How Moscow sees and plans a “great war” is demonstrated by the regular “West” maneuvers. The Russian and Belarusian armies seem to be working off anti-terrorist operations on them, but in fact the army is being prepared for a conventional war with the Alliance.

If in AirSea Battle, marine and aviation forces, then Russia relies on the ground forces: tank and mechanized. It is they who will take on the main burden of the conflict, and aviation and missile forces will play a supporting role. Since 2013, the Russians have been practicing the transfer of a large number of military personnel by air and rail to ensure a significant concentration of the military in a certain segment and to hit the enemy as soon as possible before he mobilizes his forces for effective defense. So at the beginning of the “great war” we can expect a swift offensive on land in Poland, which will enter our country as a wedge before we receive reinforcements. If a “great war” breaks out between Russia and NATO, the probability of using nuclear weapons in it will be much higher than in the event of a US clash with China. After all, Russian leaders are well aware that their conventional troops are inferior to the Western.

In order to level this imbalance, they provide for the use of tactical nuclear warheads. This is the doctrine of the use of nuclear weapons on a limited scale without the exchange of destructive strikes between the powers using its strategic variety. Unfortunately, this conflict will unfold in the first place on Polish territory, and it is our lands and the troops on them that will become the main target of nuclear strikes. If the Russians attack with full force, our army will not be able to cope with them, in turn, the European members of NATO do not have enough potential and political will to immediately take action. So the United States remains. Now the Americans in Europe have only two brigades of ground forces on a permanent basis and one on rotational, so that in the event of an invasion they will have to deploy military across the Atlantic Ocean.

In such a situation it is necessary to ensure dominance in the air. And if Russia hits the ground forces, NATO - aviation and missiles. And all this will happen over our heads, sowing destruction and death.

Who else wants to participate in the great war?

The “Great War” can also take place between China and India or Russia and China. In both cases, the likelihood of the use of nuclear weapons. It should be noted, however, that although there are quite a few disputes between Beijing and Delhi or Beijing and Moscow, including territorial, geography has hindered full-scale conflicts. China is separated from India by the Himalayas and the Karakorum Range, and from the populated center of Russia by Siberia.

The "Great War" may break out, but it is not predetermined. Now the probability that the fuse will be set on fire is low, but the pace of world events has noticeably accelerated. The differences in the interests of the major players are becoming more pronounced, and the ambitions of the ascending powers, especially China and Russia, are articulated more clearly. Territorial disputes (Crimea, Donbass, Arctic, islands in the South China Sea), which were frozen a decade ago, are intensifying in areas of potential conflicts. So far this is just a quiet rumbling, but the armies of the main powers are already ready for a world conflict, and then it will turn into a roar.
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  1. RESEARCHER
    RESEARCHER 3 January 2016 15: 17 New
    0
    A couple of gigatons in TNT on a supervolcano and everything is OK. This is only 35 - 40 Kuzkin moms. You don’t even have to blow it up, but just keep them as a Domocles sword.
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 3 January 2016 15: 31 New
      35
      Quote: RESEARCHER
      A couple of gigatons in TNT on a supervolcano and everything is OK.

      I don’t know about OK, but the fact that all this is for sure
      tomit already this amateurish bang yellowstone
      1. Sid.74
        3 January 2016 15: 55 New
        15
        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
        and here is what all this is for sure
        tomit already this amateurish bang yellowstone

        Well, the destruction of coastal cities by a tidal wave from nuclear weapons and large-scale radiation contamination do you prefer? After all, the greatest density of the US population is settled on the east and west coast of the USA.
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 3 January 2016 15: 59 New
          +1
          Quote: Sid.74
          Well, the destruction of coastal cities by the tidal wave of nuclear weapons

          What are you talking about?
          1. Sid.74
            3 January 2016 16: 07 New
            20
            Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
            What are you talking about?

            Well, about the fact that during the eruption of supervolcano there is no chance to survive, but there is no salvation from superzunami caused by nuclear weapons and subsequent infection. So, Yellowstone is not a bad wish to Americans,
            although experts predict that after its eruption, in a few years we all, the survivors, will enter a new ice age. The sun will not be visible for several years because of the ash suspension in the atmosphere.
            Although in truth, it would be better if none of this happened. Neither war with nuclear weapons, nor supervolcano.
            1. Vadim237
              Vadim237 3 January 2016 16: 56 New
              -11
              Super volcanoes work on their own - although you drop all atomic bombs on them, they will not explode from this.
              1. Tatyana
                Tatyana 3 January 2016 19: 59 New
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                History has not taught anything to Poland.
                Before the 2 World War, Poland, like Czechoslovakia, were allies of France. For Germany, which had torn Czechoslovakia - according to the secret plan of the USA and Great Britain against the USSR - the next turn for occupation was beyond Poland bordering the USSR. But even in such a situation, Poland, as a seasoned scavenger, was in a hurry to pinch off a piece of Czech territory - namely, the Tesinsky district bordering Czechoslovakia, which became Polish in 1938. And a year later, Germany also occupies Poland itself. And the "democratic west" only kept silent about all this. Not a single ally stood up for Poland. And in 1945, Poland, like the whole of central Europe, was destroyed as a result of the defeat of Nazi Germany. History has shown that with such allies in Poland, in case of war, she simply "the game did not cost the cheapest candles."
                The same thing happens with Poland and now - in the twenty-first century. NATO allies are already substituting Poland for military defeat - and with its greedy consent! And as a handout for Poland, Poland expects to receive the territory of Western Ukraine through the mechanism of returning pre-war property to private Polish owners and to keep it - and in a country where there is already a civil (!) War.
                The question arises. And what about the future of Poland, if at all, as such, it will have - with the threat of unleashing NATO a nuclear war with Russia - which of the Polish leaders really thinks? It looks like NOBODY!
                1. Eugene-Eugene
                  Eugene-Eugene 3 January 2016 21: 31 New
                  +8
                  Everything is simpler - the Poles have their own EuroErdohaška
                  1. poquello
                    poquello 3 January 2016 21: 37 New
                    +4
                    Quote: Eugene-Eugene
                    Everything is simpler - the Poles have their own EuroErdohaška

                    and before that they had little shit
                2. Jack-b
                  Jack-b 4 January 2016 08: 11 New
                  +9
                  I would like to take a block of granite, knock out the phrase on it: "It does not matter who attacks whom: Europe will attack Russia or vice versa, the Poles will still rake it." Then bring it to Moscow and put it in front of the Polish embassy. That would be remembered and not forgotten. It would be nice to put one in Warsaw, but they will paint over it with some kind of garbage and there will be no sense.
                  1. Siberian38
                    Siberian38 4 January 2016 10: 42 New
                    +3
                    Poles without n ***** th as without gingerbread ...
                3. Siberian38
                  Siberian38 4 January 2016 10: 39 New
                  0
                  And when they thought with their heads ....
                4. TRex
                  TRex 4 January 2016 12: 13 New
                  +2
                  In any case, Poland will simply blow away from the globe. All the time they amuse themselves with thoughts about a wise monkey that sits on a mountain and watches two tigers fight in the valley. In 1939 it was the same. Now it doesn’t work and missile defense will not help.
                  Well, the big war will not begin in Europe or Asia. We are following Iran and the Saudis ... that’s where the movement comes from.
              2. Simon
                Simon 3 January 2016 21: 16 New
                +6
                The atomic bomb can provoke earthquakes and shifts of earth layers, because of which long extinct volcanoes can wake up. Academician Sakharov proposed at one time to the Soviet government to lay a thermonuclear charge in the central depression of the Atlantic Ocean and blow it up, then in this case the eastern coast of America and western Europe will be washed away by water and strong earthquakes will begin, which will lead to the movement of earth layers. It was only because of this that the Soviet government refused him because the pier could lead to irreparable consequences.
                1. Vadim237
                  Vadim237 3 January 2016 21: 42 New
                  -2
                  All this is theoretically.
                2. avva2012
                  avva2012 3 January 2016 22: 51 New
                  12
                  Academician Sakharov proposed at one time to the Soviet government to lay a thermonuclear charge in the central depression of the Atlantic Ocean and blow it up, in this case the eastern coast of America and western Europe will be washed away by water.
                  What a humane person, was an Academician. Kind soul. It was not in vain that the Nobel Peace Prize was given to a philanthropist. So that the liberals forgot about him, it would be necessary to order the icon of Zurab Tsereteli. The flaw.
                  1. The comment was deleted.
                  2. spravochnik
                    spravochnik 4 January 2016 11: 21 New
                    +5
                    Yes, the Academician was a great philanthropist. It was he who proposed the Navy a 1.5-meter caliber giant thermonuclear torpedo to destroy coastal territories. The sailors ate fought off such a gift. He also had such a project. In the upper Mississippi, a thermonuclear charge explodes, raising a huge wave that descends downstream. And so as not to fade, she periodically would be invigorated with new nuclear explosions. The big democrat was an Academician.
                    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                      Vasilenko Vladimir 4 January 2016 11: 25 New
                      +3
                      Quote: spravochnik
                      The big democrat was an Academician.

                      what is the connection with democracy?
                      Quote: spravochnik
                      In the upper Mississippi, a thermonuclear charge explodes, raising a huge wave
                      this is the fifth or sixth version of his project, it is extremely interesting what he proposed REALLY
                      1. avva2012
                        avva2012 4 January 2016 11: 41 New
                        +1
                        extremely interesting what he suggested REALLY
                        Why are you interested in?
                        Namely, he was a democrat, supporter of universal values, the prohibition of the death penalty, and other, other, other.
                        He loved life, little devil ... his own.
                      2. Vasilenko Vladimir
                        Vasilenko Vladimir 4 January 2016 11: 48 New
                        +3
                        Quote: avva2012
                        Why are you interested in?

                        interesting
                        Quote: avva2012
                        Namely, he was a democrat, a supporter of universal values.

                        democracy is a form of government (far from the best) to the proposals of an eccentric (with the letter "m") Sahorka has nothing to do with
                      3. avva2012
                        avva2012 4 January 2016 12: 14 New
                        +1
                        interesting
                        I support myself inquisitive.
                        democracy is a form of government
                        In my opinion, this word, having passed through a continuous metabolism through the crown of its development, the USA, acquired a new meaning and internal content close to that substrate, which is the result of any metabolism. belay
            2. Petrix
              Petrix 4 January 2016 12: 34 New
              +1
              Quote: Simon
              Atomic bomb can provoke

              Here it is necessary to act more cunningly. Let's take into account some facts:
              1. For example, avalanches are artificially provoked in the mountains by explosions, so that there is no unexpected catastrophic descent. The boilers release pressure so that there is no explosion. Etc.
              2. How is the United States doing in the Arab Spring? They create a problem (ISIS), and then they "fight" with it and at the same time "accidentally" eliminate what they dislike (Assad, ancient monuments, libraries, strengthening of states, etc.).

              You can also do with the Americans, but without a dirty war and deception. The danger of Yellowstone for the entire planet and the need to blow it up to relieve pressure are scientifically proven. Otherwise, it will explode suddenly. And the Americans are given an ultimatum on behalf of the entire planet - evacuation on such and such a date. If they rest, then enemies of a planetary scale. A volcano needs to be blown off anyway.
          2. Weyland
            Weyland 4 January 2016 02: 06 New
            +3
            Quote: Vadim237
            even though you drop all atomic bombs on them, they will not explode from this.


            Have you checked from experience? laughing
            1. Vadim237
              Vadim237 4 January 2016 16: 12 New
              -4
              There are several kilometers of soil above the vents of such volcanoes - atomic weapons will not beat such an armor.
        2. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 3 January 2016 17: 25 New
          +1
          Quote: Sid.74
          Well, about the fact that during the eruption of a supervolcano, there is at least the slightest chance of survival, but there is no salvation from super-tsunami ringing nuclear weapons and from subsequent infection.

          for whom?
        3. clidon
          clidon 3 January 2016 17: 43 New
          10
          It's just that it's time for us to organize a sect "Witnesses of the explosion in the Yellowstone volcano."
          “Do you believe in the cleansing explosion of the Volcano and the death of all Americans in its flame?” Don't want to talk about it?

          But in fact, few people know for sure, how little is known specifically about such large-scale natural objects. Hence the predictions (which end in nothing), as well as plans for "use" must be supplied with the words "maybe" or "probably", well, or "maybe". For this reason alone, no one will spend precious megatons on this nature reserve.
      2. vsoltan
        vsoltan 3 January 2016 18: 43 New
        +5
        Vasilenko Vladimir

        Yeah, Yellowstone is in the center…. And a nuclear tsunami on the periphery ... "the whole world in dust" ... from neighing, in front of fading zombie boxes ... wassat
        1. Archon
          Archon 3 January 2016 19: 50 New
          +3
          Well this is so many good series will not reach ...
    2. Bayonet
      Bayonet 3 January 2016 18: 08 New
      +3
      Quote: Sid.74
      Well, do you like the destruction of coastal cities by the tidal wave from nuclear weapons and large-scale radiation infection?

      Who cares? If this happens, we will not be either! wassat
      1. Bayonet
        Bayonet 3 January 2016 18: 53 New
        0
        Quote: Bayonet
        Who cares? If this happens, we will not be either!

        Someone in doubt? Well, success, you may have time to rejoice in the collapse of America! laughing
      2. Sid.74
        4 January 2016 03: 08 New
        +1
        Quote: Bayonet
        If this happens, we, too, will not be!

        Here, analysts disperse ... during the eruption of Yellowstone in full power, the Karachun for central Russia will come within 2-3 months, most of the earth will cover the ashes in half a year, the whole ball in about a year. The Gulf Stream will heat up very poorly. Until all the ash has settled, the 2-3 of the year will pass.
        Moreover, breathing will be difficult. And the extinction of flora and fauna will be close to about 80-90%.

        With a targeted explosion in the waters of the United States, the predictions may be different, it all depends on the proximity to the coast and the power delivered by nuclear weapons. If we assume that the Russian Federation will send nuclear weapons to the United States capable of destroying not only say New York, but the entire coastal zone of the United States. what will get us. And the return as a tsunami. And radiation contamination.
        Radiation contamination will come to us in a few months.
        It is extremely difficult to predict a tsunami. But the fact that most of Europe and part of Russia will go under water is for sure. And only God knows what will happen next.
        In any case, the migration of huge masses of people, hunger, radiation sickness, extinction.
        1. spravochnik
          spravochnik 4 January 2016 11: 30 New
          +5
          There is a more democratic option. On one of the islands in the Atlantic Ocean (I don’t remember offhand what kind of material I need to look at) there is a huge rock mass located in unstable equilibrium. Scientists have already figured out that if it is brought down into the ocean, a huge tsunami will wash away the entire eastern coast of the United States (and not only that).
          1. spravochnik
            spravochnik 4 January 2016 11: 48 New
            0
            Well, what are you minus. This is not what I came up with, I just voiced. love
            1. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 4 January 2016 12: 12 New
              0
              how sideways does your proposal relate to the method of government?
              for this and minus, tired of when the terms pop into absolutely off topic
  2. Corsair
    Corsair 3 January 2016 15: 56 New
    +2
    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
    I don’t know about OK, but the fact that all this is for sure
    tomit already this amateurish bang yellowstone

    laughing every third has already written about a supervolcano, dreams are dreams, people somehow do not take into account that there are several km of rock from above.
    Perhaps he himself will wake up without any participation from us, or the movement of the continents will begin as millions of years ago. Here the foretellers about the mass displacement of people scream in the next couple of years, and not like the Arabs now, but in hundreds of millions. To trust them, of course, do not respect yourself, but you never know - suddenly a bit of truth is in this.
    1. cniza
      cniza 3 January 2016 15: 59 New
      30
      It would be better to speculate about super Poland and its experts in the field of future wars, otherwise everyone will forget that there is such a state called Poland.
      1. dmi.pris
        dmi.pris 3 January 2016 17: 43 New
        +4
        I also think, what does the tsunami and the volcano have to do with it? The meaning of the article is completely apocaleptic. For any pshek, the paragraph is ... and they raise a tantrum, and the confederate is burning on the thief.
      2. pilot8878
        pilot8878 3 January 2016 17: 53 New
        +3
        Quote: cniza
        It would be better to speculate about super Poland and its experts in the field of future wars, otherwise everyone will forget that there is such a state called Poland.

        Yes, to whom is it needed to be given, is this Poland?
        Sprats simply panicked: on the one hand, they were the majority in the river, on the other hand, the river separated the two forests and, if something happened, the whole movement went over their heads, regardless of their desire. Moreover, even the most insane sprats understood that for any coastal resident they are just a light snack, and who will listen to the opinion of the snack.
        This is from "The Tale of a Goat, a Boar and a Bear", if anyone does not know.
      3. aksakal
        aksakal 4 January 2016 00: 52 New
        14
        I read the comments. Damn, what are you really grabbing for nuclear weapons once? Automatically believe what the SABGE says: "If the conflict is conventional, Russia has no chance"? Well, in general, there is a healthy grain in this statement - one Russia against 28 states (now 29? Or am I still mistaken) - this is really incomparable. But is such a situation possible in reality? Firstly, half of the NATO allies will definitely not fight against, a significant part will sabotage. Mainly the USA, Poland, Romania and the Balts will fight - for obvious reasons. The ground forces of the United States, frankly, not so hot, the Air Force is strong, but this matters over the territory of Western Europe, over the territory of Russia and the CSTO countries (a single air defense zone), these strong air forces will not matter. The second consideration in reality is that, according to the CSTO Treaty, we are obliged to fit in and will fit in. Yes, we are not so hot, but we could balance the Balts with Romania. Third, do you think that China will silently watch the attack on Russia? After the fall of Russia, who will be next, but not just alone against the whole of NATO, but even with the threat of a reformatted Russia as the head battering ram? Yes, yes, if Russia can be defeated by some miracle so that the conflict does not go beyond the conventional, then Russia, following the example of today's Ukraine (against Russia), will be directed anti-Chinese. Do you really think that silly people are sitting in the PRC? So, what is written in the SABGE in real life is IMPOSSIBLE! So why take this seriously?
        But in alliance with the CSTO and the PRC against NATO - well, here I can give no chance to the NATO countries in a conventional battle.
        Well, if in general seriously and in real life - conventional fights between heavyweight countries - Russia, the USA, China, India - are generally impossible, everything will slide into a nuclear war. Hence, we will talk about the war "by proxy". In the past, there were such wars, the score was 2: 2. That is, the Korean war with our result (with an advantage in our sides in terms of losses in air battles), the war in Vietnam (with our victory), won in the Middle East (with the victory, alas, the United States) and the war in Afghanistan.
        Most likely, such a proxy war will take place in Syria. Who is "behind them"? I think Turks and Saudis. Well, ISIS members - where can we go without them? Who is for "us"? Themselves Syrians and Iranians with Iraqis and Kurds. Approximate parity, it is difficult to make predictions. I think ours will tear them apart. But all this is subject to Israel's neutrality. I think Israel will remain neutral - nothing good will shine for it if the Turkish-Saudi alliance wins. My considerations are controversial.
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 4 January 2016 07: 33 New
          +1
          Quote: aksakal
          Russia alone against 28 states

          Do you seriously think that everything will come out ahead?
        2. Dam
          Dam 4 January 2016 20: 40 New
          0
          May Europe not fight, and not by what and not by whom. And stupid people die for mattress interests only the top in the new European countries. And they expect to catch the plane before the northern fox comes to them personally. And their citizens are hardly taken into account in these calculations. So, even without a nuclear war, Europe will be able to roll into a pancake. And there you can already talk with mattresses. Business is unlikely to reach BP.
      4. BARKHAN
        BARKHAN 4 January 2016 01: 08 New
        +4
        Quote: cniza
        It would be better to speculate about super Poland and its experts in the field of future wars, otherwise everyone will forget that there is such a state called Poland.


        It's simple. Gophers always dream that elephants will kill each other in a fierce battle .... And then they-gophers will rule the world. Only they don’t think that during a fierce fight the first will trample them ... gophers.
    2. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 3 January 2016 16: 06 New
      +4
      Quote: Corsair
      people somehow do not take into account that there are several kilometers of rock on top.

      the people somehow do not take into account the other,
      Supervolcanoes represent the second largest global catastrophic event after the fall of the asteroid. In the past, eruptions of supervolcanoes have resulted in mass extinctions, long-term climate changes and "volcanic winters" when ash obscures sunlight.

      in addition, there are a lot of weapons of mass destruction in the United States and what will happen to him as a result of a catastrophe of a planetary scale no one knows
    3. castle
      castle 3 January 2016 18: 07 New
      -48
      And do you think that after Yellowstone your children or grandchildren will survive? Or do you believe the words of "adequate" Sergei Dorenko, that after the apocalypse only Russians, with braces and culture and Orthodoxy, will survive, and the West will die?
      Firstly. Remember how this Dorenko (Purely Russian surname) not so long ago watered Russia with Aries. It is visible to him in the dark entrance they explained how to behave. Immediately became a radical RUSSIAN patriot.
      Secondly. Guys! You really wanted to fight? And where is it treated? Kashchenkova cottage? Join the queue!
      Yes, we, in the west, are overgrown with fat, but we are not doing well, but we will not go to the square, but to the elections, and our vote will win. And further. I constantly read, like: "NATO or the US are afraid of Russia and are arming themselves" Read the Russian press - Russia has created unparalleled weapons, based on new physical principles (this is for uneducated patriots), Armata, boomerang, black hole, triumph, warrior, S-400 , chrysanthemum, etc. Who is threatening whom? Does the West threaten Russia or vice versa?
      I’m not afraid, but my wife and son and daughter-in-law and my daughter will boil. We will have plenty of infantry. Consider that the West is arming itself. Your fault. Thank Messrs. Dorenko, Zhirinovsky and Prokhanov and Channel One.
      We will not attack, not fools! But there is an experience that does not go in vain! Berlin crisis, Hungary, Czechoslovakia, Poland
      1. Vasyan1971
        Vasyan1971 3 January 2016 18: 40 New
        26
        "... Consider the West arming itself. Your fault."
        Gee gee gee! Strongly said! In fact, you need to fold the legs and wait humbly when the light elves come and separate them from the very tomatoes. About you. And there will be peace and prosperity on the whole earth under the wise and paternal guidance of an overseas benefactor!
        Here is just a small correction. We have seen such "peacemakers and benefactors." We have seen such an ordnung. And we played such greyhound carriers of "universal human values". And we will twist. Whatever you plan and hope about this! The Russian land has stood and will stand on that. Amen!
      2. nickel1
        nickel1 3 January 2016 18: 51 New
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        No, dear. You write so well in Russian that you should know our history. Russia has always defended itself and liberated, no matter how pathetically it sounds. And if you also taught geography, you should understand that we are not threatening the states. We just stop them from dominating the way they are used to. And Europe for them is like that, a loose change, distant frontiers, no more. Which, incidentally, is understood by this Polish author of the article.
      3. Koshak
        Koshak 3 January 2016 18: 59 New
        11
        Quote: hrad
        Who is threatening anyone? West threatens Russia or vice versa?

        Yugoslavia, Iraq, Libya, Syria, Ukraine ... who muddies the water in the world? Who gave the command "fas" to the Georgians?
      4. Corporal Valera
        Corporal Valera 3 January 2016 20: 00 New
        12
        Quote: hrad
        I’m not afraid, but my wife and son and daughter-in-law and my daughter will boil. We will have plenty of infantry. Consider the West Arming

        You there inadvertently do not shmalnite in some Arab, otherwise they will arrange an apocalypse for you earlier than you think, and you will not have time to fight the "infantry" with the Russians. "Allahu Akbar" and mama do not cry
      5. Simon
        Simon 3 January 2016 21: 33 New
        +9
        "Hrad" --- If the West and America had not provoked Russia, in this case Russia would not have been armed. More recently, in the late 80s, Europe promised Gorbach that NATO would not expand and the USSR began to disarm itself and what it led to - NATO is already standing at the borders of Russia. So it turns out that Europe and the United States cannot be trusted - they themselves provoke us to arm ourselves. Arming for Russia is a matter of life and death, and Europe and America are moving towards our borders - for our pacification and hegemony over us. So who wants war?
        1. jaroff
          jaroff 4 January 2016 23: 12 New
          +1
          But to be literal, NATO did not break its promises to Gorbachev. Under him, under Gorbachev, NATO remained in its place. The USSR did not become; the Warsaw Pact did not become. Under Gorbachev there was still. Gorbachev disappeared from the political scene and his departure and the disappearance of the USSR freed the hands of the "promisors." After all, the Russian Federation, NATO did not promise anything to the new, capitalist state, and Gorbachev is not in this new state as a statesman of the Russian Federation. From NATO's point of view, "bribes are smooth" from them. And what Yeltsin "negotiated" with NATO about, we do not know, since we constantly remember the promises to Gorbachev.
      6. Azitral
        Azitral 3 January 2016 22: 15 New
        +2
        Ukraine, Karl!
        I listened to Vicki Nuland's startling admission in the original.
      7. vlad66
        vlad66 4 January 2016 00: 27 New
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        Quote: hrad
        We will not attack, not fools!

        Thank God that you understand. We, too, are not necessary to you.
        Quote: hrad
        but my wife and son and daughter-in-law and my daughter will boil. We will have plenty of infantry.

        Well, yes, when the Yankees and NATO drive you ahead of yourself, so as not to waste your precious lives, it may help, about 5 minutes.
        Quote: hrad
        You really wanted to fight? And where is it treated? Kashchenkova cottage? Join the queue!

        You are the first in line and orderlies are already waiting for you with open arms.
        Quote: hrad
        But there is an experience that does not go in vain! Berlin crisis, Hungary, Czechoslovakia, Poland

        Don’t remember the hell if you weren’t a Soviet soldier and you wouldn’t have lived.
      8. aksakal
        aksakal 4 January 2016 01: 22 New
        +7
        Quote: hrad
        Who is threatening anyone? West threatens Russia or vice versa

        - when the hunchback was pondering whether to allow the unification of Germany, what was the promise he was given in the West? That NATO will not move east? Has it been fulfilled? Is this not the root of Russia's rearmament? Missile defense systems in Eastern Europe allegedly against Iranian missiles - was it really so? Sanctions against Iran lifted, Iran abandoned nuclear weapons - has the ABM work stopped? So you Lied to the Russians about missile defense? The destabilization of Ukraine forced the Russians to decisively annex Crimea, because Ukraine's accession to NATO (see paragraph one) and the subsequent deployment of US Navy bases in Crimea (even a tender at the Pentagon was announced for rework in one of the schools in Sevastopol) is a CATASTROPHIC consequences for the security of Russia, this is understandable even to a very limited person. I hope you are not like that and you understand that it was not Russia that carried out the aggression against one of the European countries, but Russia was forced to do so for the sake of its security.
        Quote: hrad
        Yes, we, in the West, are overgrown with fat, but we are not doing well, but we are not in the square, but we will go to the polls and our voice will win.
        - there is still a naive laughing laughing believes in democracy laughing I’m explaining something here, but as I read it, this is the finish laughing
        Quote: hrad
        Hungary, Czechoslovakia, Poland
        - both in Hungary and in Czechoslovakia, the entry of Soviet troops was carried out at the request of the LEGITIME authorities of these countries. The authorities of both Czechoslovakia and Hungary were recognized by all countries of the world! And now they have brought troops into Syria on the same grounds. Now, if Assad (pah-pah-pah) still falls and the power of the jihadists is established in Syria, then their descendants will also shout "we will always remember Syria on September 30, 2015"! Let them yell like you yell, and I tell you specifically - everything was legal there, how legal is now Russia's intervention in Syria. But you and your allies in Syria are bombing ILLEGALLY! Remember this! And this is another reason for the rearmament of Russia! For with your habits like this, to break into where you are not asked with your democracy, only "Armata" with PAK FA can bring you to your senses.
        Yes, by the way, about the "infantry" - put it where the monkey does not eat bananas, because besides the strategic nuclear weapons there is a sufficient number of tactical nuclear weapons - this is the younger Chinese brother of the NSW. This TNW is more than enough for your "infantry". Therefore, I advise you to calm down with your "democracy" - do not stick your democratic mantul at us, we will cut it off so that nothing grows there - Putin has already voiced this to you. Sit calmly on the priest evenly - you will be more whole. But no - we will find someone to populate your territories after the use of TNW.
      9. Pajamas
        Pajamas 4 January 2016 01: 38 New
        +3
        Quote: hrad
        I’m not afraid, but my wife and son and daughter-in-law and my daughter will boil. We will have plenty of infantry.

        Sign up for the courses and don’t forget the daughter-in-law, along with everything infantry, you will need to learn how to distribute your infantry, unless the Bundeswehr and they train with painted sticks, by the way, take an interest in their number.
      10. cyberspace
        cyberspace 4 January 2016 06: 10 New
        +6
        Quote: hrad
        Yes, we, in the West, are overgrown with fat, but we are not doing well, but we are not in the square, but we will go to the polls and our voice will win.

        There is absolutely no difference who you vote for and who you win in the Czech Republic, you will do what the big white (or black) gentleman says. Your ass will kick, and run east, taken away by the infantry, with your wife, son, and daughter-in-law, and behind the back of a squad your overseas allies will go.
      11. gg.na
        gg.na 5 January 2016 01: 40 New
        +1
        ha ha ha does not let RUSSIA become America wassat the ruler of the whole world! Smelly America decided all over the world to create turmoil in order to at least somehow influence RUSSIA! Yes, just don’t break the people in RUSSIA because there is a real president in RUSSIA and this president is MAN! And the whole people of RUSSIA are TOGETHER for our president !!! And we will not let America establish its power as they would like !! Do not be this !!! And after the yellowstone ... bully Who's lucky wink so be it! There time will judge and put everyone in their place and that's it! yes
      12. gg.na
        gg.na 5 January 2016 02: 03 New
        0
        And the article is crazy and provocative!
  3. Asadullah
    Asadullah 3 January 2016 16: 33 New
    11
    tired already it amateurish


    Not in this case. We are fixated on Yellowstone, in the USA on the magnificent seven. Of which about twenty percent of the population considers real characters, only placed in fictional stories. But in which case, they will fly to destroy the enemies of the United States.

    You will better appreciate the new movement of the logs, "War of the Worlds", but in Poland they forget that they have already recorded themselves in a certain of these worlds, and with their full ass Bigus are preparing their territory for this. This means that something very bad will be passed on to them the same way. I just want to tell them - in the anatomical theater of history there is a place for Polish exhibits. Prepare formalin, Poles!
    1. asiat_61
      asiat_61 3 January 2016 19: 26 New
      0
      I understood correctly, Poles should prepare formalin, do we not have something?
  4. 78bor1973
    78bor1973 3 January 2016 16: 46 New
    +3
    Pro- “they provide for the possibility of using tactful nuclear warheads!” It just made me laugh, although we can call tactful not only warheads, albeit a Freudian slip of the tongue! But about the exchange of strikes with NATO in Europe, that is complete nonsense, there will be no exchanges, and the air operation of the Russian Aerospace Forces looks more real than a joint operation of the NATO Air Force, at first there will be a large meeting of the European Union which will be quite difficult to agree on!
  5. Eragon
    Eragon 4 January 2016 08: 41 New
    +1
    Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
    tomit already this amateurish bang yellowstone

    It may have gotten tired, but the question of why the Russian Navy needs combat nuclear submarines with a submersion depth of up to 3000 m and the release of mini-submarines with a submersion depth of up to 6000 m (this is what is officially announced) remains open. Are they there, are they going to fight with mollusks? A mini-submarine can also be a "maxibomb" of 200-300 megatons. But the impact on the Pacific rift with an energy equivalent to 2-3 gigatons will inevitably lead to the movement of plates converging there. This has long been calculated by scientists. So I don’t know about Yellowstone, but it’s definitely going to bring the west coast of America into the ocean.
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 4 January 2016 09: 46 New
      0
      Quote: Eragon
      why the Russian Navy combat nuclear submarines with a depth of immersion of up to 3000 m

      and what does the supervolcano have to do with it?
  • vlad66
    vlad66 3 January 2016 15: 32 New
    44
    The shape of each future “great war” is set by the United States, although they are more likely to not initiate it.

    Poland would not be Poland if it had not said the opposite, well, it would be necessary to lick the overseas master. In the event of a collision, God forbid, of course, only a deep foundation pit will remain from the great Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth.
    1. meriem1
      meriem1 3 January 2016 15: 54 New
      +9
      Quote: vlad66
      The shape of each future “great war” is set by the United States, although they are more likely to not initiate it.

      Poland would not be Poland if it had not said the opposite, well, it would be necessary to lick the overseas master. In the event of a collision, God forbid, of course, only a deep foundation pit will remain from the great Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth.


      They have been warned more than once that they themselves are making a target !!!!! If forced and the land at the site of the missile defense will melt, then there should be no offense !!!!
    2. Kite
      Kite 3 January 2016 17: 48 New
      +4
      Quote: vlad66
      .... from the great Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth there will only be a deep foundation pit.

      - and one does not have to be as "wise" as Andrzej Talaga to predict the appearance of this pit, despite the fact that the Polish rulers themselves are drilling pits on their territory and bringing in explosives to fill them. And we don't need such neighbors, and the Merikans, without thinking about carpet bombing, will walk to burn out the border strip, if at least a company of Russian soldiers appears there. This is not the first time in history they are being incited and handed over.
    3. Mavrikiy
      Mavrikiy 3 January 2016 17: 55 New
      10
      Well no. The pit will not work. And Belarus will have a port and dad will sell us sprats and red fish legally. And Psaki: "Well, I told you, and you are a fool, a fool, it is insulting .."
  • Finches
    Finches 3 January 2016 15: 33 New
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    Poland is a laying between normal states, and from understanding their unenviable role in the geopolitical arena throughout their history they are engaged in continuous provocations! Without disdaining even such small things as articles of this kind ... Instead of revising their views on life, they constantly puff, bursting with unconfirmed ambitions, proving left and right that Poland is a mega, super state the only one that has the right voices on earth ... laughing
    1. Sid.74
      3 January 2016 15: 41 New
      24
      Quote: Finches
      that Poland is Mego, a super state the only one having the right to vote on Earth ... laughing

      Well so, I recently looked at Sunday Evening and there the Pole declared that Ukrainians are our negros.
      Self-conceit the size of a house and a sense of the galactic significance of Poland, this is the idea fixed by Svidomo Poland. But because of which, they forever ogrebayut.
      1. Finches
        Finches 3 January 2016 15: 53 New
        11
        Exactly! I see one of the reasons for this imbalance of the whole people in the fact that at that time the Slavs there completely fell under Catholicism! Catholics nourished the whole nation in its exorbitant conceit in order to use it against the Orthodox for their own purposes! Only the Poles, long ago, have ceased to understand these obvious things and pass this idiotic paradigm from generation to generation!
        1. venaya
          venaya 3 January 2016 16: 30 New
          +4
          Quote: Finches
          I see one of the reasons for this imbalance of the whole people in the fact that at that time the Slavs there completely fell under Catholicism! Catholics nourished the whole nation in its exorbitant conceit ...

          A small clarification: In addition to Catholicism, which crushed the "Holy Roman Empire", Judaism had an even greater influence on Poland, because this is the only country that sheltered Jews from all over Europe in the Middle Ages, the so-called "zone of compact residence", which basically caused this character trait as hatred of the entire surrounding world and foreign population. This is especially noticeable in relation to the inhabitants of the then Ukraine (the Polish colony), whom they considered their slaves (b ... lo) and not otherwise.
          1. Alexey Lobanov
            Alexey Lobanov 3 January 2016 18: 25 New
            +3
            Quote: venaya
            Judaism had an even greater influence on Poland, because this is the only country that sheltered Jews from all over Europe in the Middle Ages, the so-called "zone of compact residence",

            Strong! And, in many ways - right, only what is the relationship with the article? And, by the way, I think the Jews did not add to the Poles their minds, as they did not try. laughing
      2. cniza
        cniza 3 January 2016 15: 55 New
        11
        The author didn’t finish drinking, he only smoked a cigarette, but gave out a "masterpiece" of military analytics and the significance of Poland in the future war, as well as in the balance of power between NATO and Russia.
        1. PValery53
          PValery53 3 January 2016 17: 37 New
          +3
          Eh, Poland! - Well, why are you behaving so immodestly? - After all, with the "distribution" you will get the fattest piece of "rewards"! - I feel sorry for even ordinary Poles! - What can you do ?!
        2. Alexey Lobanov
          Alexey Lobanov 3 January 2016 18: 27 New
          +2
          Quote: cniza
          The author didn’t finish drinking, he only smoked a cigarette, but gave out a "masterpiece" of military analytics and the significance of Poland in the future war, as well as in the balance of power between NATO and Russia.

          The article just says that Poland will pick the most apples, if a mess starts between the big ones.
          1. Marconi41
            Marconi41 4 January 2016 08: 15 New
            +1
            Quote: Alexey Lobanov
            The article just says that Poland will pick the most apples, if a mess starts between the big ones.

            Well, it always has been. Remember the second world war. Who was the first to row in full? It is Poland! Then she pulled Hitler and Stalin's mustache. Hitler got even more from them. But even now, the Poles are repeating the same mistake again. They would pretend to be rags, BUT ... Apparently they are again waiting for the distribution ... of holiday elephants.
        3. Luga
          Luga 3 January 2016 18: 46 New
          +5
          Quote: cniza
          The author didn’t finish drinking, he only smoked a cigarette, but gave out a "masterpiece" of military analytics and the significance of Poland in the future war, as well as in the balance of power between NATO and Russia.


          It seemed to me exactly the opposite. The author realizes that Poland cannot be a participant in the conflict, but only its victim. And unrequited. The whole article is riddled with the idea that if it begins, then only memories will remain of Poland. In general, the way it is, if the conflict breaks out in the west.

          Personally, it seems to me that the author just smoked, as a result of which he became addicted to treason. There is no such effect from alcohol. laughing
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    2. EvgNik
      EvgNik 3 January 2016 16: 00 New
      +6
      Quote: Finches
      Poland is a laying between normal states

      Gasket - it is also in Africa.
    3. Vadim237
      Vadim237 3 January 2016 16: 58 New
      +1
      Poland is now actively arming itself.
    4. bravo-fab
      bravo-fab 3 January 2016 19: 48 New
      +5
      in the first year I gave a lecture on the topic "Poland's historical hostility to Russia", what I understood from Polish history that they were squeezed strongly from 3 sides, from above the Swedes were once the most formidable force in Europe, from the west German lands, from the south of the Austrians yes Turks and all sorts of other formations, and to the east - weak Russia, which was doing something of its own, so they decided to climb, expand and realize their ambitions, because the Polish people have qualities no worse than those of the Germans or Russians, in terms of science, economy, culture etc. In the end, the Poles got in the ass, and all their dreams ended, since the Ivans, according to the Polish DUPE, kicked the nobles, and being Catholic and pro-Western, the instigators did not want Russian reinforcement, so they were propagandizing that they say the Russians are your enemies, yes and the Poles remember that the ambitions of their blyagodrya Russian broke off. And then Russia became Empires and divided Polish as much as it could, at that time, Prussia and Russia dismantled the Poles, and the nemads taught them that Russia had occupied you, then Bonaparte promised them freedom from oppression under Dubrovsky's mazurka, and after the Soviets they ate a piece in the geopolitical game against the Nazis, that's all these facts are used by the Poles for anthoganization. In general, they were also offended that Russia did not help them when the USSR collapsed, and Russia then had no time for them, it was itself weak. Everything that the Russians did for the Poles when they were a part of the Empire and far away from the USSR, they forgot everything, because the good is quickly forgotten, especially during the correspondence of history and the change of generations.
      1. Alexey Lobanov
        Alexey Lobanov 3 January 2016 23: 56 New
        0
        However, psheks remember the Sign of the Eagle. Let them be ashamed that we remember this.
        1. Tatyana
          Tatyana 4 January 2016 01: 38 New
          +2
          As for the collapse of the Warsaw Pact, the Poles have nothing to do with it. It was Gorbachev, immediately after returning from his next visit to the United States at a meeting of the Warsaw Pact countries, that unexpectedly for the rest of the leadership of the Soviet country he categorically declared on himself at a meeting of the Warsaw Pact countries that “the USSR and the countries of the socialist camp no longer have geopolitical opponents and therefore the USSR leaves from the Warsaw Pact ”, after which the Warsaw Pact was forced to break up.
          Pro-American Gorbachev with his so-called. With "new thinking" not only the USSR - it was the entire socialist camp - betrayed everyone.
    5. Chatlanen
      Chatlanen 4 January 2016 01: 18 New
      0
      If the conflict is conventional, Russia has no chance.
      Hitler probably thought so too. Of course I understand everything, the Poles have their own textbooks, their own history (the Americans probably released them there), but NATO is not omnipotent for every square meter. you can’t drop a meter on the bomb ...
  • MIKHALYCH1
    MIKHALYCH1 3 January 2016 15: 36 New
    15
    Again explain to everyone what a real war is? Forgot gentlemen .... forgot clearly!
  • YohanPalych
    YohanPalych 3 January 2016 15: 36 New
    34
    For the first time in my life (in VO) I minus an article (or rather, the author) I didn’t read a more schizoid delirium (except for the works of American schoolchildren) ...
    1. Ami du peuple
      Ami du peuple 3 January 2016 15: 52 New
      26
      Quote: YohanPalych
      For the first time in my life (in VO), I minus an article (or rather, the author)

      Likewise! Everything is fine in this article. And: "The US is a state that protects what it has, not a hungry rising power" - that is, for example, ancient China - a rising power in comparison with these overseas upstarts, which are 250 years old? Or this: "If the Russians attack with full force, our army will not be able to cope with them" - your army, Panov, will not be able to cope even if Russia attacks with a quarter of its strength. Only nafig you need that Russia?
      In short, too lazy to further disassemble this pseudo-analytical nonsense.
    2. am808s
      am808s 3 January 2016 16: 26 New
      +4
      Exactly! Schizoids! More precisely, you will not come up with it. "Voivode Palmerston poked everyone on the map with his fingers.
    3. Sergey S.
      Sergey S. 3 January 2016 16: 46 New
      +5
      Quote: YohanPalych
      For the first time in my life (in VO) I minus an article (or rather, the author) I didn’t read a more schizoid delirium (except for the works of American schoolchildren) ...

      Join.
      the impression is that the author hardly found a way to place Poland in the center of world events ...
      .. and Poland was at the epicenter of a nuclear test site ...
      So this nonsense was written not by a completely stupid person ...
      Pun from the village of du.rakov.
      1. YohanPalych
        YohanPalych 3 January 2016 17: 10 New
        +4
        Quote: Sergey S.

        Pun from the village of du.rakov.

        You know, Sergey hi I absolutely agree with you. Precisely calambur! For if "entot a-a-author" Read (except for the title) "War of the Worlds" by Herbert Wells, then at least from this work (a deuce to you at school in literature, a-a-author) should have remembered that "the battle for the planet Earth, it was "aviation" (represented by the "Martians") that "lost", and it was HUMANITY (represented by ADEQUATE people) that won ...
        Again hi
    4. Proxima
      Proxima 3 January 2016 17: 14 New
      11
      Quote: YohanPalych
      For the first time in my life (in VO) I minus an article (or rather, the author) I didn’t read a more schizoid delirium (except for the works of American schoolchildren) ...

      Instead of this dubious scribbling, the author should have been running around the churches and lighting candles for Stalin, who competently formed the new Poland. The result was not an "ugly brainchild of the Versailles Treaty", but the only (not counting small countries) state in Europe, where people of the same nationality and the same faith make up the ABSOLUTE MOST! And this is always a guarantee of stability and prosperity, including economic one. The question is, what else is needed, live and rejoice! But no, they are going to participate in mega-disassembly with China and Russia.
  • vovanpain
    vovanpain 3 January 2016 15: 45 New
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    And that the Poles bark at us more than anyone else, and in fact guess that the "civilized" Naglosaks will drive them and other rabble ahead of themselves. And here is our answer. soldier
  • Denis Obukhov
    Denis Obukhov 3 January 2016 16: 03 New
    +9
    ... foolish author: if there is a war with China, then all actions in the Asian region, if with Russia then in the interval between the Arctic and the Mediterranean.
    In all of these options, the gap between Mexico and Canada will burn.
    The dementia of Hollywood strategists is especially evident in the construction of aircraft carriers and the planting of bases. These methods are a relic of past strategies and God forbid they stay longer in this ignorance.
  • Denis Obukhov
    Denis Obukhov 3 January 2016 16: 05 New
    +4
    Some idiocy .. Especially from the phrase "If the Russians attack with full force, our army will not be able to cope with them."
    1. APASUS
      APASUS 3 January 2016 16: 13 New
      +5
      Quote: Denis Obukhov
      Some kind of idiocy ..

      In my opinion, the article has sufficiently disclosed the plans of some blocs and countries. This is Wishlist, so to speak, especially regarding the war between India and China and Russia as well. In essence, an attempt to pass off wishful thinking ................ ......
      1. Sid.74
        3 January 2016 16: 20 New
        +8
        Quote: APASUS
        This is so to say Wishlist, especially in the part of the war between India and China and also Russia. In essence, an attempt to present what you wish for as real.

        That’s exactly what I’ve noticed. That's why I’ve posted this skipipastil on BO. How can you write off Western debts? Declare war on Russia? Nope ... scary ... there is a possibility that it’s possible that there’s nothing else in Poland and the USA grow up. I declare war on war, too scary.
        But to pit China with India, or Russia with China, it is very tasty for the Anglo-sasks.
        Actually, this is the only "correct" thought in this article.
        1. INTER
          INTER 3 January 2016 16: 46 New
          +4
          Much has been said above about the use of nuclear weapons against the United States for activating a volcano or for a tsunami. DO YOU THINK ABOUT CONSEQUENCES OR SO TO SAY ??? This volcano can show us Kuzkin’s dregs! It seems that everyone who writes such nonsense thinks that only he will survive))))))) No wonder they are talking about a bad world! Do not forget or ask WWII veterans!
  • Denis Obukhov
    Denis Obukhov 3 January 2016 16: 52 New
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    Such a very Polish article.
    The guys did not forget anything and did not learn anything. With delight, they deceive themselves. What for?
    Before the Second World War, it was Poland who diligently pitted everyone with everyone in Europe from the filing of the Anglo-Saxons. As a result, the two deadly enemies Germany and the USSR, for starters, simply eliminated Poland so that they would not hang out under their feet.
    Now, with the filing of the same Anglo-Saxons, Poland is again booming. And again, out of complete foolishness or ignorance.
    Let's start with an analysis of the Pacific Ocean theater. Why did the Poles get that Russia will not take part on the side of China in the US military conflict with China? Have they forgotten how to read and count? And if so, then there is simply no question of any defensive stability of the first, second and third row of islands along the PRC. There are enough hundreds of “calibers” from small boats and diesel submarines (and the Chinese have this kind in bulk) and from all American bases and fleets there will simply be firebrands. Well, that’s okay.
    So far, NATO (USA) has only participated in conventional conflicts in the Eurasian theater of operations. And they won not one of the wars they started. Nowhere. And why did the guys decide that NATO could win a conventional conflict in Europe with Russia? Tanks counted? Oh well. It is no coincidence that all NATO satellites, mercenaries, armed and trained provocateurs, all the time threaten to use precisely non-conventional weapons - chemical, bacteriological, and radioactive. Everywhere where NATO troops visited.
    Poland alone thinks correctly. What if they fight, then it is on its territory. And again, crap. If the Americans deploy their military contingents there, then we will not talk about ground-based military operations, but about the complete destruction of the US-based territories themselves. Poland will simply be out of business, even if it wants to put up, etc. They will not fight with her. And don't talk to her. Do they need it?
  • Proxima
    Proxima 3 January 2016 16: 53 New
    +5
    I don't even know what to comment on in the article. Maybe for the Polish military "analysts" and "political strategists" she will go with a bang, but here even a 10-year-old son who plays shooting games will not read it for the night - he will laugh. The most annoying thing is sorry for the work of the translator who worked on this nonsense.
  • Baloo
    Baloo 3 January 2016 17: 00 New
    +6
    A couple of gigatons in TNT on a super volcano and everything is OK

    Happy New Year to the fiery monkey you, dear RESEARCHER
    Have you thought about the consequences around the globe? It will even cover penguins in Antarctica and fighting kangaroos in Australia, and I don’t say anything about our Far East. Don't joke like that anymore. crying wassat bully
    1. RESEARCHER
      RESEARCHER 3 January 2016 17: 28 New
      +8
      HAPPY NEW YEAR!
      It’s good that you understand jokes. And then the people were seriously scared. They think that I'm sitting on a mountain of nuclear warheads and how Kim Jong-un scares everyone here. And I have something like grenades, and I don’t even have a New Year's cracker. wassat
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  • 222222
    222222 3 January 2016 17: 23 New
    +2
    Andrzej Talaga: @ world military giants are preparing their armies for an incomparably larger conflict. @
    Knowingly false initial urge .. dead end ..
  • Bayonet
    Bayonet 3 January 2016 18: 06 New
    +1
    Quote: RESEARCHER
    A couple of gigatons in TNT on a supervolcano and everything is OK.

    Not "everything is OK", but everyone is "OK", or rather - kirdyk! what
  • GSH-18
    GSH-18 3 January 2016 18: 27 New
    +4
    If the conflict is conventional, Russia has no chance.

    laughing As can be seen from this statement, Andrzej Talaga is a complete ignoramus, who is in ignorance and confidence that the Russian army, as such, does not exist in nature. And the Russian Federation can only rely on its nuclear triad-naive simpleton. Is there anything up to them there, the news about Syria and our VKS and the Russian Navy with long-range aviation doesn’t reach it ??? fool
  • GSH-18
    GSH-18 3 January 2016 18: 32 New
    0
    The USA consistently implements the above points, as a result, a conflict on American territory has become impossible, and the likelihood of an air attack is very limited, so America will wage a future "great war" away from its shores

    Oh, well, think so and on. "X101" and "Sienva" unceremoniously and rigidly, on occasion, will completely break your template (in the USA). And for geyropa, Iskander and our front-line aviation are enough. good
    Less look at your NATO box, you will be more whole.
  • GSH-18
    GSH-18 3 January 2016 18: 34 New
    +2
    if the Alliance enters into a clash with Moscow, the strip between Russia and NATO states - from the Arctic to the Mediterranean Sea. It should be noted that in the second case, Poland will be exactly in the middle of the potential front.

    Amendment. Not "will", but stupidly cease to exist in a matter of minutes. And for this Poland should thank its "advanced" rulers and the 3rd US positional area on its territory.
  • GSH-18
    GSH-18 3 January 2016 18: 38 New
    +2
    The United States, although they would rather not initiate it, since it is a state that protects what it has, and not a hungry rising power.

    Another childhood delusion. The expansionist and militaristic policy of the United States is clearly manifested in everything, and America has no longer concealed it lately. Well, there’s no need to tell further, here everything is already well known about amerodemocracy and its forcible universal planting with the aim of robbing countries that are unable to fend for themselves.
  • kodxnumx
    kodxnumx 3 January 2016 20: 12 New
    +3
    Quote: RESEARCHER
    A couple of gigatons in TNT on a supervolcano and everything is OK. This is only 35 - 40 Kuzkin moms. You don’t even have to blow it up, but just keep them as a Domocles sword.

    And who wrote this nonsense ???? Where is NATO and Where is Russia! Does he think that in this article the Russian people changed their approach to the war?! But if we start, we will finish only in their capitals! Let them read history, except for the Strategic Rocket Forces in Russia and all the armed forces are up to standard even now, but time will pass and NATO, together with the United States, will be afraid to look in our direction if the pace of rearmament does not slow down.
  • venzim
    venzim 3 January 2016 20: 30 New
    +3
    Again Poles. Pulls me away from their comments and "articles". The red thread in the article is about how weak Russia is and how it lagged behind and other players, China, India, etc., are affected to divert attention.
    1. Dembel77
      Dembel77 3 January 2016 22: 21 New
      +1
      The article is not a New Year's topic, and indeed it is not a topic - to discuss the impossible, in the sense of the defeat of our country. The article is complete nonsense, but about its author you can say: "A short mind has a long tongue."
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  • Rezident007
    Rezident007 3 January 2016 22: 18 New
    +2
    The bad head doesn’t give rest) But the Poles are dashingly dashing, they would have to write comics)))
  • marlin1203
    marlin1203 5 January 2016 20: 57 New
    0
    Pole's dreams of a war between Russia and China or India ... well ... No.
  • Olegater
    Olegater 3 January 2016 15: 22 New
    +8
    An article from pshek can also be considered as a provocation. He writes about obvious things. And the reason for the publication probably served as the fact that the territory of Pshekia during the conflict simply disappears from the maps.
    1. kil 31
      kil 31 3 January 2016 15: 26 New
      +8
      Just wondering. Author? How much does it cost to write such a patriotic opus for NATO and the Pentagon?
    2. Reserve officer
      Reserve officer 3 January 2016 15: 32 New
      21
      "If it is a nuclear conflict, Moscow will have many chances if it does not win."

      In these words, the entire qualification of the author. Victory in a nuclear war? And who will survive on the planet to celebrate this victory? In Polish schools, it is felt that there is no GO. The astonishing factors of nuclear weapons are very vague.
      1. avia1991
        avia1991 3 January 2016 16: 20 New
        +5
        Quote: Reserve officer
        And who will survive on the planet to celebrate this victory? In Polish schools, it is felt that there is no GO.

        Alexey, does anyone out there think about it? Their task is to "fart" in order to draw attention to themselves. I think they, in fact, are seeking only the next financial "injections", no matter how wink
        1. Reserve officer
          Reserve officer 3 January 2016 16: 43 New
          +6
          Sergey, welcome! Well, about the damage to the European air by the Poles in knocking out the next infusion - yes, yes. I agree. But historical memory, nevertheless, exists in Poland. The disputes of the great powers never for Poland ended in anything good. So it’s better to sit quietly and not lean out.
          By the way, I want to congratulate them on their great anniversary. This year he marks 200 years from the date of the loss of independence and statehood. Champagne!
          1. avia1991
            avia1991 3 January 2016 17: 25 New
            +2
            Quote: Reserve officer
            I want to congratulate them on their great anniversary.

            laughing ! I support! good
      2. Vadim237
        Vadim237 3 January 2016 17: 02 New
        -9
        All the rest of the countries that are not participating in the nuclear conflict will survive, and their industry will survive - so they have nothing to worry about.
        1. avia1991
          avia1991 3 January 2016 17: 29 New
          +4
          Quote: Vadim237
          All other countries that are not involved in a nuclear conflict will survive.

          Vadim WILL NOT REMAIN. Considering that not one of the major powers this time will be able to sit out - and industry, precisely, is mainly concentrated in them.
          But even if you accept that someone is SOMEONE !! - after the nuclear apocalypse will survive, there is no reason to envy them: a poisoned atmosphere, soil, dying vegetation .. they will finish off the remaining in a short time, not as fast as a bullet - but inevitably!
          I would not wish such an end. ANYONE. hi
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 3 January 2016 19: 10 New
            -7
            If we take the nuclear conflict between Russia and the United States, only the neighboring countries will suffer, and even then not completely, and the rest of the world will live on - they have everything to replace what they were previously given by the US and Russia, explosions of 3000 thermonuclear charges the average capacity of 150 - 300 kilotons will not be greatly affected by the planet’s ecology - the rest of the countries will have to take measures to eliminate pollution that will come from the United States and Russia, they will survive and continue to live on, but without us.
            1. avia1991
              avia1991 3 January 2016 21: 42 New
              +3
              Quote: Vadim237
              explosions of 3000 thermonuclear charges of medium power of 150 - 300 kilotons will not greatly damage the planet’s ecology - other countries will have to take measures to eliminate pollution,

              Have you heard about Chernobyl? .. And about the consequences of the accident? ..
              The explosion at the Chernobyl nuclear power plant is estimated at 0,065 kilotons. And here you are writing carelessly about 3000 explosions of 150 (!!!) kilotons !! Can you think a bit? Logically..
              Quote: Vadim237
              only nearby countries will be affected
              What do you evaluate by what criteria? If you used a computer to simulate a situation, then not younger than 386! lol And somewhere clearly a mistake crept in .. yes
              1. Vadim237
                Vadim237 3 January 2016 22: 42 New
                -5
                We compared the release, in Chernobyl, of 50 tons of highly enriched radioactive elements into the atmosphere, with the explosion of a thermonuclear bomb - from this amount of radioactive elements, 1000 atomic bombs such as "Malysh" can be made and the pollution from this accident is comparable to 600 Hiroshima. Logically, I advise you to think - that you have confused and compared something incomparable.
                1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                  Vasilenko Vladimir 3 January 2016 22: 55 New
                  +2
                  "Kid" 13 kilos
                  "poplar" 6x150 kilo
                2. avia1991
                  avia1991 3 January 2016 23: 14 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Vadim237
                  something you have mixed up and compared incomparable.

                  You have confused something. I indicated the power of the explosion, which tore off the armored hood at the Chernobyl nuclear power plant. Blowout is a separate article. As for contamination - for some reason you completely refuse to take into account radiation as a damaging element of a nuclear explosion! That in itself, without "dirty" scraps, can cause radiation contamination of the territory, and everything that will not burn out and will not fall apart when the shock wave passes.
                  PS And you, I look, like to minus? Remember, catch the answer hi
                  1. Vadim237
                    Vadim237 3 January 2016 23: 48 New
                    -2
                    The fusion weapons of the two-stage debris throwing are clean enough, if they are contaminated in the territories where they were used, the rest of the world will get a little, the radioactive dust will be scattered across the entire earth, it will be washed off by the rains and its level will be lower than normal and every year it will be decrease - other countries will survive and survive, because they will have the means of protection and the world will not perish.
        2. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 3 January 2016 17: 46 New
          +4
          Quote: Vadim237
          All other countries that are not involved in a nuclear conflict will survive.

          which ones?
          1. Alexey Lobanov
            Alexey Lobanov 3 January 2016 18: 35 New
            -2
            I think Greenland ... Although, Denmark is still raking.
            Well, and - Iceland.
            1. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 3 January 2016 18: 41 New
              +6
              Quote: Alexey Lobanov
              I think Greenland ...

              a map of Europe has long been considered, there on the drum to whom a gift will fly, everyone will have a hangover

              if anyone survives more or less, it is our Siberia, central and southern Africa, South America and Australia, everyone else will hug with a white fluffy animal
              1. avva2012
                avva2012 3 January 2016 18: 50 New
                +2
                I doubt it. Siberia has a lot of things, so that it is a priority for the United States.
                1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                  Vasilenko Vladimir 3 January 2016 19: 50 New
                  0
                  Siberia is too big
                  1. avva2012
                    avva2012 3 January 2016 20: 13 New
                    +2
                    In Siberia, there is still a population, so that you don’t have to endure about it. Better in the US, to establish a state department, quietly.
                    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                      Vasilenko Vladimir 3 January 2016 21: 26 New
                      0
                      it’s clear that it’s not necessary, purely theoretical considerations, yet the population density in Siberia and the USA is different in Siberia 2 people per sq km in the USA 34
                      1. avva2012
                        avva2012 3 January 2016 21: 41 New
                        +2
                        Density, yes, only in Siberia do most of the population live in large years, though. Therefore, missiles will not have many goals.
                      2. GSH-18
                        GSH-18 3 January 2016 21: 43 New
                        +2
                        Quote: avva2012
                        Density, yes, only in Siberia do most of the population live in large years, though. Therefore, missiles will not have many goals.

                        And there is. And in the European part of the country, even more so.
                      3. Vasilenko Vladimir
                        Vasilenko Vladimir 3 January 2016 21: 50 New
                        0
                        the main thing is that the territory will remain at least partially intact, it is clear that the victims will be huge, but nonetheless
                      4. avva2012
                        avva2012 3 January 2016 21: 59 New
                        +2
                        And who will live in this territory? Mosquitoes with a bear the size?
                      5. Vasilenko Vladimir
                        Vasilenko Vladimir 3 January 2016 22: 02 New
                        -1
                        those who lived away from cities, in Siberia there are such
        3. Alexey Lobanov
          Alexey Lobanov 3 January 2016 19: 31 New
          +1
          Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
          a map of Europe has long been considered, there on the drum to whom a gift will fly, everyone will have a hangover

          I remember the geography from childhood well. Not everyone will have a hangover. Unless - economic.
          About our Mother Siberia, I would like to hope that only all the major Siberian cities are targets. Even Nizhnevartovsk. Only scale and size will save. But the fucking Greenland and Iceland will definitely not hurt. There are no goals there. Australia is an ally of our ... partners, because of geography, it does not need much, an island (albeit a continent), however. Like Britain. Africa and South America - I agree, except that - Colombia can row.
          1. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 3 January 2016 20: 01 New
            +3
            Quote: Alexey Lobanov
            Not everyone will have a hangover. Unless - economic.

            at all, and if you take into account the direction of the winds, then enough and still remains
          2. Vadim237
            Vadim237 3 January 2016 20: 18 New
            -5
            Our Strategic Rocket Forces will only hit those who attacked us and no one else.
            1. Alexey Lobanov
              Alexey Lobanov 3 January 2016 20: 29 New
              +3
              Quote: Vadim237
              Our Strategic Rocket Forces will only hit those who attacked us and no one else.

              Everyone who has a base of NATO and Americans will rake specifically.
              Moral - be at least neutral to Russia. laughing
              1. Vadim237
                Vadim237 3 January 2016 20: 57 New
                -3
                This is only if the NATO bloc declares war on us.
                1. avia1991
                  avia1991 3 January 2016 22: 14 New
                  +1
                  Quote: Vadim237
                  if the NATO bloc declares war on us

                  Yes-ah ?! But what about the States - not NATA anymore? .. And their Americans, just right, expect to be the first to cast a slaughter! laughing
                2. Vadim237
                  Vadim237 3 January 2016 22: 45 New
                  -2
                  In which case the NATO countries will famously abandon each other - as well as Turkey.
          3. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 3 January 2016 21: 27 New
            +1
            pfff, fucking at all potentially dangerous targets, command posts, etc.
      3. GSH-18
        GSH-18 3 January 2016 21: 52 New
        +3
        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
        if anyone survives more or less, this is our Siberia

        Yeah. This is if you dig 5 meters underground under the ground with a 20-year supply of grub and electricity.
        Radioactive dust will spread throughout the ball in a uniform layer throughout the day. And here is sadness. All sown fields, livestock and most vegetation will receive a furry northern animal. Well, you finish your canned food in the basement, and then what? Radioactive isotopes (Schaub you knew) are not only radioactive and therefore dangerous, they are still extremely toxic even in microscopic doses.
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 3 January 2016 22: 00 New
          +2
          I'm not milking, I'm in Kaliningrad
          1. avia1991
            avia1991 3 January 2016 22: 23 New
            +2
            Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
            I'm not milking, I'm in Kaliningrad

            That's sadness .. urgently need to build real estate under water! wassat
            And without jokes - it's all useless. I personally know one thing: you must not allow a nuclear war! BY ALL FORCES - DO NOT ALLOW! Because if it starts - everything: khana "shariku".
            And no burrows will help: at least for their life needs electricity and air .. not to mention the fact that they still need to be built. Yes and .. WHO is there to hide? The survivors will be miserable debris ..
            Like in an old children's song:
            ".. here is the result (yeah): some drunk chief
            clicked on the button - and the plane took off!
            He dropped the load (ee), and blew himself up -
            And everything went, went, went, went to hell! ...
            And here again (ee) the caves of the ancient mountains,
            And the man (s-e) carries a big ax ... "
            1. Vadim237
              Vadim237 4 January 2016 00: 05 New
              -3
              To leave for other countries - to the South before the exchange of thermonuclear strikes begins - get the minimum dose of radiation exposure and survive.
          2. GSH-18
            GSH-18 3 January 2016 22: 24 New
            +1
            Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
            I'm not milking, I'm in Kaliningrad

            It's tough lol
          3. Vadim237
            Vadim237 4 January 2016 00: 02 New
            -2
            Get the main gas mask with overalls, and everything will be fine there.
        2. Vadim237
          Vadim237 4 January 2016 00: 00 New
          -1
          In greenhouse conditions, everything will be grown with air purification systems, everyone in gas masks will walk. The most dangerous products of nuclear explosions are strontium 90 and iodine 131, but they have half-lives in the first 28 years, and in the second two weeks.
          1. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 4 January 2016 07: 42 New
            +2
            Quote: Vadim237
            they have half-lives in the first 28 years, in the second two weeks.

            you have enough hours
            1. Vadim237
              Vadim237 4 January 2016 16: 45 New
              -2
              If the gas mask is at hand, then I will survive.
              1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                Vasilenko Vladimir 5 January 2016 10: 55 New
                +1
                and after that you are offended when they point out to you your stupidity and illiteracy? !!!
                Do not explain how a gas mask will help you from radiation? !!!
                only if it’s old and you hang yourself on a hose so that it doesn’t suffer
  • Vadim237
    Vadim237 3 January 2016 18: 58 New
    -5
    Africa, Australia, Indonesia, the Arabian Peninsula, Malaysia, Cuba, South America and so on - these countries will not affect the nuclear conflict between Russia and the United States at all and they will never mind us.
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 3 January 2016 20: 07 New
      +2
      Quote: Vadim237
      Arabian Peninsula, Malaysia, Cuba

      this will remain just the glands, the cube will be distributed under the distribution of the United States next to the Arabs from the Jews will fall, the southeast together with China will rake
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 3 January 2016 20: 46 New
        -3
        I'm talking about the war between Russia and the United States, and not about the world military mess, where everyone will fight against everyone.
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 3 January 2016 21: 28 New
          +3
          Quote: Vadim237
          I'm talking about the war between Russia and the United States

          and in the event of a nuclear mess, no one will stand aside, do you think the Jews and Arabs will not cling to the noise or Indians with Pakistan ?!
          just porridge will be
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 4 January 2016 00: 15 New
            -1
            In the event of a possible nuclear upheaval, everyone will be chained to television screens for news releases, frantically thinking about what to do after it happens, food and oil prices will skyrocket; all countries will be preoccupied with their self-preservation, in such conditions there will no longer be internecine hostility.
        2. avia1991
          avia1991 3 January 2016 22: 33 New
          +2
          Quote: Vadim237
          I'm talking about the war between Russia and the USA, and not about the world military mess

          Vadim .. You give the impression of a man SUVO civilian, infinitely far from the real assessment of the consequences of such a conflict .. It does not matter that it will be "get-together". Look for popular science articles on this topic - and you will be surprised to discover the fact HOW MANY times can the destruction of the Earth use so many nuclear weapons which you indicated above.
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 4 January 2016 00: 29 New
            -1
            And once it’s not enough - the power is not the same, in the 60s and 70s only the USA had 600 Mk 41 warheads with a capacity of 25 megatons each, plus 500 thermonuclear bombs of B 53 with a capacity of 9 megatons each - in total only these two segments of one nuclear the powers exceeded the current 3340 warheads, which Russia and the United States are now putting together, 19,5 times the megatonnes — they felt the difference.
  • Baloo
    Baloo 3 January 2016 21: 57 New
    +3
    Vadim237 I will disappoint you. the Pole is even more dilettante than you. As a schoolboy under Brezhnev, I read an article that one (!) Salvo of any nuclear submarine in any direction is three months of nuclear winter for the entire globe. And if there is an exchange of strikes of "retaliation" ... And you say the industry will survive. The atmosphere will be blown into space. Even neutron weapons will not give anyone an advantage.
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    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 3 January 2016 23: 21 New
      -2
      "Nuclear winter" is a sci-fi bluff, this "theoretical phenomenon" physically cannot exist, even though you detonate a maximum of 6000 warheads that this will give this slight darkening of the atmosphere where the explosions took place, but it will, not for long, pollution of the atmosphere and soil, an explosion such a number of charges will not lead to cooling, but to warming, since it will create a greenhouse effect from the release of a huge amount of CO2. How will the explosion of a 300 kiloton thermonuclear bomb "blow the atmosphere into space"? it is advisable to be quick about this process in more detail. Neutron weapons have never given an advantage to anyone, and your own home can protect you from fast neutron molasses - this weapon is effective only in squares.
      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 4 January 2016 07: 50 New
        +3
        you have enough hours
        Quote: Vadim237
        "Nuclear winter" is a sci-fi bluff, this "theoretical phenomenon" physically cannot be
        Did you study at school?
        1815 - the eruption of Tambora volcano on the island of Sumbawa, the force reached 7 points. It caused a worldwide decrease in average temperature by 2,5 ° C during 1816 (the so-called “year without summer”). The volume of emissions into the atmosphere is about 150–180 km³.
        Krakatau 3 year cooling
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 4 January 2016 12: 11 New
          -3
          Again, you compare the explosion of an atomic bomb with a volcanic eruption, okay, it can take 1000 times more soil into the atmosphere than an explosion of a medium-power atomic bomb, the explosion of this volcano carried 288000000 tons of soil into the atmosphere, in the form of ash and dust, to a height of more than 30 kilometers, we must also take into account the fact that this volcano was still chidd for several days, or even weeks, and now we compare these readings with an explosion of 3340 atomic ones with an average power of 300 kilotons each, one such explosion will lift 100000 tons of soil into the air, to a maximum height of 13 kilometers, yes and that's not all - 30 - 40 percent, this dust will not reach the stratosphere, as it is written in the theory of "Nuclear Winter", here is a comparison of 288000000 tons from a volcano and 334000000 tons from an explosion of 3340 warheads - the difference is not great - how many you said there - 2,5 degrees, the explosion of our bombs is the maximum that will give this cold snap by 3 degrees, under weather conditions + 30 degrees in summer and minus 20 and even in some regions of Russia - 50 in winter, these 3 degrees are so miserable that they simply will not be noticed and felt, so that the "Nuclear Winter" is exactly winter, from the explosions of 3340 warheads there can be no way. The guys in their theory forgot to mention that the explosion of a large number of atomic bombs will cause the release of a huge amount of CO2 into the atmosphere, which will lead to a greenhouse effect; in the theory of nuclear winter, the combustion processes of materials are very greatly exaggerated, for example, a fire tornado in urban conditions, when physically it can exist only on the plain, smoke from fires which somehow miraculously reaches the height of the stratosphere, overcoming the forces of gravity of the earth and numerous air currents. "Nuclear winter" is just a "theory" that has nothing to do with reality.
          1. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 4 January 2016 12: 30 New
            +2
            for Christ’s sake, study the topic, otherwise it’s funny already,
            firstly, during a nuclear explosion, not only soil but also soot rises into the air
            Quote: Vadim237
            very exaggerated, for example, a fiery tornado in urban conditions, when physically it can exist only on the plain,

            already talks about your complete ignorance in this matter, if interested read the info about the bombing of Dresden,
            during the Second World War, in the days of the massive bombing of Hamburg and Dresden by Allied aircraft, when the flames from the houses that were burning merged into one fiery "nozzle" with a diameter of a kilometer and a height of many hundreds of meters. The surviving witnesses told: the ascending currents of air in the burning Dresden were so powerful that they lifted up and absorbed into the roaring flames people who were rushing about in the streets ..., fire of 1812 in Moscow

            When many independent fires combine into one powerful hearth, a "fire tornado" is formed that can destroy a huge city (as in Dresden and Hamburg at the end of World War II). The intense release of heat in the center of such a "whirlwind" lifts up huge masses of air, creating hurricanes at the surface of the earth, which supply more and more oxygen to the fire. "Tornado" raises smoke, dust and soot to the stratosphere, which form a cloud that practically covers the sunlight, "nuclear night" sets in and, as a result, "nuclear winter".

            Calculations of the amount of aerosol formed after such fires were made based on the average value of 4 g of combustible material per 1 cm2 of surface, although in cities such as New York or London, its value reaches 40 g / cm2. According to the most conservative estimates, a nuclear conflict (according to the average, so-called "baseline" scenario) produces about 200 million tons of aerosol, 30% of which is carbon that strongly absorbs sunlight. As a result, the area between 30o and 60o s. sh. will be deprived of sunlight for several weeks.
            1. Vadim237
              Vadim237 4 January 2016 16: 17 New
              -2
              About Dresden - more like a fairy tale, especially about the absorption of people - there were strong fires, but there was no whirlwind there.
              1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                Vasilenko Vladimir 4 January 2016 16: 34 New
                +2
                Well, what are the words of eyewitnesses, you yourself saw everything and know
            2. Vadim237
              Vadim237 4 January 2016 16: 21 New
              -2
              A fiery tornado with a height of 20 kilometers, the stratosphere is also fantastic, but a real example of proof of the delirious nature of the Nuclear Winter - In 1990, Iraq will capture Kuwait with its richest oil reserves. The West began to buzz and demand from the Iraqis to free the oil Klondike. In response, Iraqis began to threaten to blow up all 300-500 Kuwaiti gushing wells.

              Environmentalists, led by Carl Sagan, raised a fuss that such an action would lead to a "nuclear winter." According to their calculations, the average temperature of the Northern Hemisphere within 100 days should have dropped by 5-10 degrees Celsius. They believed that soot from fires would be able to rise into the stratosphere.

              A few months later, the Iraqis decided to test the hypothesis of climate alarmists and fulfilled their promise. In total, over 150 million tons of oil burned out in Kuwait over several months. And then it turned out that the smoke of fires could not rise above 6 km and as a result, all the soot was washed away by rains after a few days. No global cooling has happened.
              1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                Vasilenko Vladimir 4 January 2016 16: 36 New
                +1
                all of you are the smartest, the opinion of experts is garbage, scientific calculations are sideways, there are no fireworms, and a nuclear conflict is a fight in the sandbox
                1. Vadim237
                  Vadim237 4 January 2016 19: 59 New
                  -3
                  I have never seen these calculations about "Nuclear Winter" anywhere, only descriptions with some numbers, I support the opinion of realist experts, but the opinion of experts is not a visionary. Fire tornadoes happen, but their appearance requires a rare combination of several factors: high atmospheric pressure, hot weather and very low humidity, and in the condition of completely destroyed concrete and brick buildings, if an atomic explosion occurs in a city, this phenomenon will simply not be possible, in due to the lack of material for the propagation of combustion, there will be only point foci.
      2. Baloo
        Baloo 4 January 2016 10: 04 New
        +4
        The nuclear scientist who calculated the "nuclear winter" was kidnapped during one of his foreign business trips to a scientific conference. This information was recently announced on TV.
        And what does the 300 kiloton nuclear bomb mean? One total salvo of any nuclear submarine is much larger. And if it comes to the exchange of blows ...
        By the way, the Scandinavians wrote articles for a long, long time that for several years the fragments of Chernobyl reached them and disturbed them.
        I am not a military man, I will not get involved in the discussion. I indicate my point of view. I have no reason not to trust Soviet science. Yes, and Russian, too.
        1. avva2012
          avva2012 4 January 2016 11: 03 New
          +3
          I am not a military man, I will not get involved in the discussion.
          Yes, there’s no need to be a military man. Just have 10 education classes and have the ability to analyze and synthesize. People write, either in order to have fun (to get a little better), or, for what purpose. But YaV, this is the end of the film, with no options. hi
        2. Vadim237
          Vadim237 4 January 2016 12: 15 New
          -3
          Why 300 kilotons, but because the lion's share of nuclear warheads in Russia and that of the United States is 150 - 300 kilotons, and the total number of strategic nuclear warheads in Russia and the USA is 3340.
          1. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 4 January 2016 12: 34 New
            +2
            Quote: Vadim237
            Why 300 kilotons, but because the lion's share of nuclear warheads in Russia and that of the United States is 150 - 300 kilotons, and the total number of strategic nuclear warheads in Russia and the USA is 3340.

            are you working in the general staff? laughing
            1. Vadim237
              Vadim237 4 January 2016 16: 30 New
              -3
              I don’t work there, but four of my friends work, the power of the warheads is in the open press - the main ones are 100, 150, 300 kilotons, there are also 450, 500 and 750 but there are 15–20 percent of such warheads from the total arsenal. There will be no nuclear winter, but there will be nuclear war - there is a weapon and it must be used and sooner or later it will be used for its intended purpose.
              1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                Vasilenko Vladimir 4 January 2016 16: 37 New
                +1
                especially in the public domain there are a number of warheads, and if your friends share a similar info with you over a glass of tea, then you need to drive them
                1. Vadim237
                  Vadim237 5 January 2016 10: 45 New
                  0
                  None of them shared secrets with me.
                2. Vasilenko Vladimir
                  Vasilenko Vladimir 5 January 2016 10: 51 New
                  +1
                  then why are you referring to them, show your coolness ?!
          2. Vadim237
            Vadim237 4 January 2016 16: 47 New
            -3
            By the way, our troops want to increase the RBMF 10 times.
            1. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 5 January 2016 10: 52 New
              -1
              probably just because the radioactive infection is not as strong as it is described laughing
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  • GSH-18
    GSH-18 3 January 2016 18: 53 New
    +4
    Quote: Reserve officer
    In these words, the entire qualification of the author. Victory in a nuclear war?

    That's right. After applying Strategic Nuclear Forces, the territory of Europe, as well as the United States, will turn into a terribly radioactive vitrified lifeless desert. Naturally, we will also get it. Well, and to what patient is all this necessary? I think the Americans will not do this. All the same, they have brains, not to be played using nuclear weapons.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 3 January 2016 19: 20 New
      -3
      Remember Chernobyl there emitted 600 times more radiation into the atmosphere than the explosion of the atomic bomb "Kid" over Hiroshima and there is no desert there, on the contrary, nature rushes from all cracks, and people also live.
      1. Alexey Lobanov
        Alexey Lobanov 3 January 2016 19: 39 New
        0
        There are a lot of horror stories about vigorous bombs, people do not think that the radius of destruction of the most powerful nuclear bomb (missile) is 50 kilometers. It is a city by area. The Americans and their comrades may have 2500 nuclear warheads. 125 thousand kilometers, and the area of ​​Russia - 17 million with an excess of square meters. kilometers. Uranium is forgotten to enrich the Americans. laughing
        1. Vadim237
          Vadim237 3 January 2016 20: 10 New
          -4
          The United States currently has 1640 warheads ready for use on ICBMs of this quantity that will not be enough to hit all our strategic military installations.
          1. GSH-18
            GSH-18 3 January 2016 20: 20 New
            +4
            Quote: Vadim237
            The United States currently has 1640 warheads ready for use on ICBMs of this quantity that will not be enough to hit all our strategic military installations.

            They will not shoot at strategic targets. And in our cities.
            1. Vadim237
              Vadim237 3 January 2016 20: 49 New
              -5
              In Moscow, they will hit 100%, and vryatli on the rest.
              1. GSH-18
                GSH-18 3 January 2016 21: 03 New
                +3
                Quote: Vadim237
                In Moscow, they will hit 100%, and vryatli on the rest.

                Since the time of the USSR, the Americans have already had about 20 approved plans for an attack on the USSR. Which provided for nuclear attacks on ALL cities of the Soviet Union. They were prevented from this foolishness by inevitable retaliation on their territory with inflicting tremendous damage. Read about the latest American Dropshot.
                1. Vadim237
                  Vadim237 3 January 2016 21: 30 New
                  -2
                  The fact of the matter is that there were plans - now they are no longer there, the concept of application has changed - "Disarming strike", what's the point of hitting cities, while the military infrastructure will survive from the enemy's lack of warheads.
        2. GSH-18
          GSH-18 3 January 2016 20: 33 New
          +2
          Quote: Alexey Lobanov
          Uranium is forgotten to enrich the Americans. laughing

          There is a thermonuclear weapon, the main explosive of which is Deuterium Lithium (LiD). And in terms of power, it is much more effective than warheads based on U235 and Pu238. All megaton charges are made on LiD. Including the Tsar bomb Sakharov (rated power 100 megatons) Learn the materiel.
          1. Alexey Lobanov
            Alexey Lobanov 3 January 2016 20: 54 New
            +1
            That is, you say that thermonuclear weapons do without the uranium shell and plutonium? laughing
            Clean on deuteride?
            1. GSH-18
              GSH-18 3 January 2016 21: 06 New
              +2
              Quote: Alexey Lobanov
              That is, you say that thermonuclear weapons do without the uranium shell and plutonium? laughing
              Clean on deuteride?

              I am not saying this. There is a small (1-2kT) nuclear "fuse" made of uranium or plutonium (that is, to a minimum of transuraniums) designed exclusively for reaching the temperature of nuclear fusion. In addition, such a warhead also contains highly blasting chemical explosives, designed to create the necessary implosion of a uranium fuse. Something like this.
              1. Alexey Lobanov
                Alexey Lobanov 3 January 2016 21: 13 New
                -1
                Well, then admit that I don’t need to learn the materiel! bully
                1. GSH-18
                  GSH-18 3 January 2016 21: 33 New
                  +3
                  Quote: Alexey Lobanov
                  Well, then admit that I don’t need to learn the materiel! bully

                  If you knew this before I wrote you about it, then yes, you would have recognized. And so, in all cases, there occurs (in the case of the production of nuclear weapons) savings of tens of times enriched in U and Pu. According to this, as you wrote:
                  Quote: Alexey Lobanov
                  Uranium is forgotten to enrich the Americans. laughing

                  Do not worry.
                  1. Alexey Lobanov
                    Alexey Lobanov 3 January 2016 21: 44 New
                    +2
                    Damn, you convinced me. hi
                    But, anyway, it will be more difficult for them. laughing
                  2. GSH-18
                    GSH-18 3 January 2016 22: 20 New
                    +1
                    Quote: Alexey Lobanov
                    Damn, you convinced me. hi
                    But, anyway, it will be more difficult for them. laughing

                    There is another extreme: the production of the heavy isotope of hydrogen-deuterium (D) for the production of thermonuclear explosives (LiD). It also needs some production facilities and some time. But on the other hand, it was very difficult to produce a bomb from U or Pu with a capacity of more than 250 kT during Sakharov’s time physical reasons. After that, Sakharov's "puffs" began, and then, after the discovery of "IMPLOSION BY RADIATION", full-weight megaton thermonuclear charges. The fact is that an atomic or thermonuclear charge is a product of higher physics. Increasing its power by simply increasing the amount of uranium or lithium deuteride is impossible. Each charge is a separate development.
          2. Vadim237
            Vadim237 3 January 2016 22: 08 New
            0
            Thermonuclear charges are divided into two-stage and three-stage, the first consists of a fuse - plutonium charge or uranium - this is the first stage, the second stage is Solid lithium hydride 6, in three stages, a shell of Uranium 238 is used as the third stage, which, when exploded begins to divide under the action of external high-energy thermonuclear neutrons, this doubles the power of the explosion - but now three-phase thermonuclear charges are not used due to their great "polluting capacity" by decay products.
    2. GSH-18
      GSH-18 3 January 2016 20: 06 New
      +5
      Quote: Vadim237
      Remember Chernobyl there emitted 600 times more radiation into the atmosphere than the explosion of the atomic bomb "Kid" over Hiroshima and there is no desert there, on the contrary, nature rushes from all cracks, and people also live.

      Man, there was no nuclear explosion. There, the reactor was destroyed as a result of rapid overheating caused by the removal of the absorber rods from the core, feel the difference! And the capacity of strategic nuclear weapons starts from 200kT. The bulk of the warheads has a yield of 400-500 kT in TNT equivalent. In terms of "Hiroshima", this is 40-50 bombs "Kid" or "Fat Man"
      I don’t want to paint everything here. You yourself can easily find on the Internet a simulator that will explain to you in paints and numbers what the detonation of thermonuclear ammunition is at an altitude of 500-700 meters above the center of a densely populated millionaire city.
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 3 January 2016 20: 41 New
        -3
        The capacity of strategic nuclear weapons starts at 100 kilotons, now the bulk of warheads in both Russia and the United States is 150 - 300 kilotons, there are 450 and 750 kilotons, but these warheads have about 15 - 20 percent of the total arsenal of strength in both countries. In the future, the power of the charges will be reduced in view of the increasing accuracy of guidance systems. Now the concept of nuclear warfare has changed, they will only be hit at military targets, for there are no longer enough warheads to hit all military targets, no one will hit the cities.
        1. GSH-18
          GSH-18 3 January 2016 20: 58 New
          +4
          Quote: Vadim237
          In the future, the power of the charges will be reduced in view of the increasing accuracy of guidance systems. Now the concept of nuclear war has changed

          Who told you that ??? Read about "Status-6", which the Americans call the "Dead Hand project" The whole trick is to create an ultra-compact and maximum powerful charge. Small kiloton charges are the lot of the army's rocket forces and artillery. Carriers: "Iskander", art tools: "Peony" "Chrysanthemum".
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 3 January 2016 21: 39 New
            -4
            They are already doing - the smaller and more accurate the warhead, the more convenient and safe to use it, Status 6 - as it was a project, it will remain - they will do something different. And the "Chrysanthemum" ATGM will never carry nuclear charges.
        2. Alexey Lobanov
          Alexey Lobanov 3 January 2016 21: 34 New
          +2
          Quote: Vadim237
          they will only be hit at military targets, for there are no longer enough warheads to hit all military targets, no one will be able to hit cities.

          They’ll beat in Moscow, they just won’t be able to get there, and the crap that fell on Poland will fall. am True - they will not explode. laughing Although, there is also about Amerikosovskoe, they already do not care about everything ...
      2. Alexey Lobanov
        Alexey Lobanov 3 January 2016 21: 30 New
        -1
        I apologize for sticking into your polemic, but I am confused by the simulator you recommended. Who, how, on the basis of what did this simulator calculate? It looks like Civilization and Red Alert.
        1. GSH-18
          GSH-18 3 January 2016 21: 41 New
          +1
          Quote: Alexey Lobanov
          I am confused by the recommended by you and-no simulator

          Naturally, a simulator is not a laboratory program of MO. But it gives a sufficient understanding of the effect of a nuclear device (the power and height of the detonation can be scored in the simulator) on the enemy’s battlefield.
          1. Alexey Lobanov
            Alexey Lobanov 3 January 2016 21: 56 New
            -2
            With what ...?
            What does he give? We can steer only from the only explosions in the world in Hiroshima and Nagasaki (thanks, pah-pah americos). I doubt that they were correctly taken into account in the calculation.
            1. avia1991
              avia1991 3 January 2016 22: 48 New
              +3
              Quote: Alexey Lobanov
              We can steer only from the only explosions in the world in Hiroshima and Nagasaki

              And also on the results of dozens of nuclear tests on both sides, which were by no means for fun.
              And then: if we can "steer" only on these results - from what ceiling do you take your statements about the possible "safety" of countries that have taken a neutral position? WHAT IS CONFIDENCE BASED ON ?!
              1. Alexey Lobanov
                Alexey Lobanov 4 January 2016 12: 33 New
                -1
                Quote: avia1991
                WHAT IS CONFIDENCE BASED ON ?!

                My confidence is based only on a limited number of nuclear warheads "on each side", you must agree, it is stupid to spend valuable charges on harmless Iceland and Greenland, on Africa (well, unless the Saudis are thrown for their camel ambition). Just LOGIC. laughing And the consequences of the use of nuclear weapons on a global scale are unlikely to be directly affected.
            2. GSH-18
              GSH-18 3 January 2016 22: 59 New
              +1
              Quote: Alexey Lobanov
              With what ...?
              What does he give? We can steer only from the only explosions in the world in Hiroshima and Nagasaki (thanks, pah-pah americos). I doubt that they were correctly taken into account in the calculation.

              Download NukeMap3D and train on real Google maps, besides the bourgeois ones, there are Poplar and Tsar bomb. Here's a link for you: http://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap3d/
            3. GSH-18
              GSH-18 3 January 2016 23: 28 New
              +1
              Quote: Alexey Lobanov
              With what ...?
              What does he give? We can steer only from the only explosions in the world in Hiroshima and Nagasaki (thanks, pah-pah americos). I doubt that they were correctly taken into account in the calculation.

              Now, practice. But without fanaticism! lol http://3mv.ru/load/
              1. Alexey Lobanov
                Alexey Lobanov 4 January 2016 12: 41 New
                0
                Quote: GSH-18
                Nate, exercise

                I was indulging in this little thing about two years ago, when she appeared. And why do you trust pimply programmers so much that you never went on a camping trip in your life, but you watched about a nuclear explosion in Hollywood? I honestly gave an example of the area of ​​destruction of nuclear weapons and its approximate number, pure mathematics ... And you again refer to dubious sites and widgets.
    3. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 3 January 2016 20: 18 New
      +3
      Quote: Vadim237
      and neither of which nor any desert is there

      Over 200 thousand km² were contaminated

      The Chernobyl Forum organization, under the auspices of the UN and the Atomic Energy Agency, points to 4 dead. On the contrary, Greenpeace gives a figure of 000. However, most experts agree on an intermediate indicator - 200-000 thousand people. Most likely, given the natural renewal of the population and natural diseases, this figure is closer than the rest to the real

      http://www.vigivanie.com/vigivanie-pri-radiacii/87-chernobilskaya-katastrofa-25-
      let-spustya.html
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 3 January 2016 20: 26 New
        -5
        This pollution of 200 thousand square kilometers on the people living there plants and animals did not greatly affect - live.
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 3 January 2016 21: 29 New
          +4
          Quote: Vadim237
          strongly not affected - live.

          live only oncological diseases have increased, there is no desire to live a year or two with oncology ?!
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 3 January 2016 23: 26 New
            -4
            Oncology is everywhere on Earth - in most cases, radiation has nothing to do with it.
            1. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 4 January 2016 08: 06 New
              +2
              The causes of cancer are diverse, complex, and only partially understood. Nevertheless, the Mutation theory of carcinogenesis is generally accepted - the theory that cancer is the result of accumulated mutations in the DNA of a cell. A mutation in the DNA of one single cell is enough for a tumor to grow from it later.

              If you try to combine all the known external factors that provoke cancer (as well as any other malignant tumor), you get an extremely simple picture:

              - chemical factors (carcinogens)

              Chemical substances. The most famous carcinogenic (cancer-causing) chemicals are chlorine, benzene, phenol and their derivatives.

              - physical factors (ionizing radiation, ultraviolet, etc.)

              Radiation. Most people exposed to radiation have a very high risk of cancer.
        2. avia1991
          avia1991 3 January 2016 22: 52 New
          +4
          Quote: Vadim237
          the plants and animals that live there were not greatly affected - they live.

          This you tell those who live there!
          I served in the Bryansk region. I have never had problems with my teeth before - and there they appeared. Almost immediately ... and with bones too. The chemist explained everything to me in an accessible way once, over a "glass of tea", showed REAL measurements of the background, and advised not to neglect the "glass of tea" every day .. And it was after .. a few years, a little less than 10 years later.
          So: Bryansk region, by and large, got MIZER from that cloud.
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 4 January 2016 01: 32 New
            -3
            Or maybe health problems lie in the lifestyle, and not in the effects of radiation - "a glass of tea" every day, everything is clear to me now.
            1. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 4 January 2016 08: 09 New
              +2
              how old are you?
              you read comments and the feeling that you are communicating with a student of grade 5
              peremptory, for often illiterate, and sometimes outright stupidity
              1. Vadim237
                Vadim237 4 January 2016 12: 20 New
                -3
                What stupid or fantastic have I written? - preferably in more detail.
                1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                  Vasilenko Vladimir 4 January 2016 12: 36 New
                  +2
                  well, at least on the fact that in cities a fiery tornado is not possible, but a lot of other things
    4. Baloo
      Baloo 4 January 2016 14: 43 New
      +1
      By the nature of my most humane profession in the world, I studied at the institute and at various studies and improvements what to do with victims of WMD and modern non-nuclear weapons. Vadim237, maybe you are the main adviser in the "General Staff", but your enthusiasm for figures once again confirms the complete ignorance and lack of ideas about the Chernobyl disaster, the true consequences, and in general ... What do you know about the consequences of the tests at the "Totsky" test site (in fact actually 80 km from Totsk)? The consequences still affect the town, which was first covered by a cloud.
      And anyway, what do you want to skazat your comments? Who has the most warheads will win? Nobody will win, no filters, no bomb shelters of the aggressor will save. Survivors envy the dead. Local nuclear conflict? After that, I will sell freaks to the penguins for a long time, not to mention the fauna and flora. Cut to Chernobyl, write, tell. fool
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 4 January 2016 16: 41 New
        -3
        I was in Chernobyl twice as an illegal, I must say that nature is rampant there, despite the fact that in some places the radioactive background exceeds the norm 1000 times. "And in general, what do you want to say with your comments?" I want to say that other countries will continue to live on - they will adapt to new conditions and nature will survive there and everyone will live on, and there will be no Apacalyptic death of the planet, people and all living things if there is an exchange of blows between the United States and Russia.
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 4 January 2016 16: 45 New
          +1
          Quote: Vadim237
          if there is an exchange of blows between the US and Russia.

          here because of these ... the apocalypse can happen, because they believe that nothing is wrong

          radiation sickness garbage, radiation garbage, ulcer garbage, in Chernobyl was at points where the background is 1000 times higher than normal
          apparently the brain suffered
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 4 January 2016 20: 21 New
            -3
            What does it mean because of people like me - I don't want war, but I have to state the fact that the time will come when nuclear weapons will be used - besides the USA, Russia, China and India there are other countries that also have nuclear weapons, the same North Korea, Russia there will be no one to attack, but the war is such a thing that comes suddenly - an example shot down by the Su 24 by Turkey, and if the signal "Pay close attention to the missile attack" appears at the post of the early warning system, there will be no way back - you will have to use similar retaliatory actions. The world is changing rapidly, in the United States this year there will be presidential elections, who knows who will be elected, the lion's share of candidates are "Russophobes," and given that the entire leadership of the United States and NATO is getting stupid every day, the possibility of a nuclear war becomes not so incredible.
        2. Baloo
          Baloo 4 January 2016 18: 45 New
          +1
          Vadim237 I want to say that the rest of the countries will continue to live on - they are adapting to new conditions and nature will survive there and everyone will continue to live and there will not be any Apacalyptic death of the planet, people and all living things if there is an exchange of blows between the USA and Russia.

          Ask in the Serov city health service (most of the cloud covered this city after testing at the training ground) or from the healthcare organizers in the Semipalatinsk test site zone. I do not think they will share your optimism. Pros in this thread probably restrained smile reading your comments on the topic.
  • Reserve officer
    Reserve officer 3 January 2016 19: 29 New
    +5
    Our argument is kind of strange. Okay, writers like the author. But here on the site, I hope, people with sufficient training. What the fuck is Australia and Africa? I am forced to support the conclusions of the USSR Academy of Sciences: “As a result of the removal of a large amount of smoke and soot into the stratosphere from extensive fires caused by the explosion of 30% of the accumulated nuclear warheads in the world, as a result of a significant increase in the amount of reflected sunlight, the temperature on the planet will drop to the Arctic everywhere. climatic conditions of life on Earth can be called a nuclear winter, which will last at least 10 years. "
    This is about radiation, I am silent. What about the thesis of the guaranteed 10 one-time destruction of the planet by the arsenals of the United States and Russia separately?
    It’s even strange to read good comments. This is not World War II, where you could sit in hot countries or in Switzerland.
    1. Alexey Lobanov
      Alexey Lobanov 3 January 2016 19: 55 New
      -2
      I respect your opinion, but I'm used to shoveling everything in numbers. The USSR Academy of Sciences did not deign to publish the figures for their calculation. But, as a counterargument, I can cite the following - over 70 years of nuclear tests in the world, about 2000 nuclear charges were detonated. We are alive...
      I guess your argument about the simultaneous use ... But the area of ​​the territory will spread the consequences. Humanity has not yet reached the power to destroy its home. Till...
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 3 January 2016 21: 14 New
        -5
        It touches me in this theory that dust and soot from fires reach a height of 20 kilometers - the guys probably reduced the Earth's gravity several times, or lowered the stratosphere to 3-4 kilometers.
        1. Alexey Lobanov
          Alexey Lobanov 3 January 2016 21: 37 New
          +3
          Well, that is, have you ever observed smoke from a fire or a torch many kilometers up? Yes, and volcanoes somehow do not emit ashes for 5-7 kilometers, blocking all air traffic in Europe.
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 3 January 2016 22: 56 New
            -3
            Smoke from fires at an altitude of 5 kilometers - I have never seen, and you probably too - a volcano erupts, and a thermonuclear bomb explodes - different things.
        2. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 3 January 2016 21: 47 New
          +4
          Quote: Vadim237
          Touches me in this theory, the ingress of dust and soot from fires, to a height of 20 kilometers

          and I am touched by people who before writing do not study topics
          read about the ejection during the Krakatau eruption, by the way, read the physics textbook too
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 3 January 2016 22: 52 New
            -4
            Yes, especially a comparison of a thermonuclear bomb explosion with a volcanic eruption - a comparison not comparable.
            1. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 3 January 2016 23: 00 New
              +1
              in terms of physical processes (scatter of ash) prove
              1. Vadim237
                Vadim237 4 January 2016 00: 37 New
                -3
                A nuclear explosion occurs instantly, and a volcano can be erupted for weeks and it will carry out soil 1000 times more than during an atomic bomb explosion.
                1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                  Vasilenko Vladimir 4 January 2016 08: 16 New
                  +2
                  it’s clear, that is, you don’t know the topics and physical processes proper
                2. Vadim237
                  Vadim237 4 January 2016 12: 27 New
                  -4
                  I just don’t want to waste my time on such noodles as "Nuclear Winter". Smart ass.
    2. avia1991
      avia1991 3 January 2016 22: 57 New
      +5
      Quote: Alexey Lobanov
      Over 70 years of nuclear testing in the world, about 2000 nuclear charges were detonated. We are alive...

      You do not confuse? It is 70 years old ?!
      It seems like a moratorium was declared, even under Gorbachev ..
      And then: the power of all these explosions do not remind?
      And their location relative to ground level?
      And what protective measures were taken during the tests? ..
  • Vadim237
    Vadim237 3 January 2016 20: 05 New
    -6
    You can forget these tales about "Nuclear Winter" - the guys adjusted all calculations to their theory and the laws of physics smoothed out Nuclear Winter - it was a scarecrow for the enemy.
    1. avia1991
      avia1991 3 January 2016 23: 01 New
      +1
      Quote: Vadim237
      the guys made all the calculations fit their theory and the laws of physics smoothed out Nuclear winter - this is a scarecrow for the enemy.

      Vo-o-from, at last I understood: Your task here is to convince those present that nuclear war is complete garbage! Children's fun, no more! And Hiroshima and Nagasaki, apparently, themselves covered some kind of epidemic - and for some reason the unfortunate furry Americans were blamed!
      Clear. After a nuclear explosion, you will be the first to go on reconnaissance. SOLVED! wassat
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 4 January 2016 01: 34 New
        -2
        Yes, I’ll go with pleasure - I have all the necessary gear and equipment for this.
  • Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 3 January 2016 20: 19 New
    0
    Quote: Reserve officer
    What nafig Australia and Africa?

    meaning that there will be no direct radioactive obstruction
  • novobranets
    novobranets 3 January 2016 15: 44 New
    12
    Quote: Olegater
    He writes about obvious things. And the reason for the publication probably served as the fact that the territory of Pshekia during the conflict simply disappears from the maps.

    And with all the understanding of the consequences, Poland asks (notice, by yourself) about the deployment of missile defense systems on its territory. Inexplicable suicidal jokes or liquefaction of gray matter? request
  • Sharapov
    Sharapov 3 January 2016 17: 09 New
    +3
    He smiled that the Indians were being exposed as real power ... These are those who have never really fought in history (skirmishes with Pakistan do not count). Their only victory was over the remnants of the troops of Alexander the Great, and then the elephants helped out.
  • Alexey Lobanov
    Alexey Lobanov 3 January 2016 18: 32 New
    0
    Quote: Olegater
    An article from pshek can also be considered as a provocation. He writes about obvious things. And the reason for the publication probably served as the fact that the territory of Pshekia during the conflict simply disappears from the maps.

    Well, the guy is just afraid for his country, what's wrong? laughing
  • poquello
    poquello 3 January 2016 15: 26 New
    +9
    the peasant forgot three more great powers - Poland, Turkey and the Baltic trinity
    1. GSH-18
      GSH-18 3 January 2016 18: 56 New
      +2
      Quote: poquello
      the peasant forgot three more great powers - Poland, Turkey and the Baltic trinity

      What are you talking about ?? wassat The most important and powerful, Vasya, was forgotten! Ukraine! laughing
      1. poquello
        poquello 3 January 2016 19: 38 New
        +1
        Quote: GSH-18
        Quote: poquello
        the peasant forgot three more great powers - Poland, Turkey and the Baltic trinity

        What are you talking about ?? wassat The most important and powerful, Vasya, was forgotten! Ukraine! laughing

        not, dill our Russian army all under Gorlovka defeated, they have no one to fight
  • kos2cool4u
    kos2cool4u 3 January 2016 15: 26 New
    +3
    The only question is what did the author smoke?)))) I also want this kind of grass :)))
    1. YohanPalych
      YohanPalych 3 January 2016 16: 09 New
      +3
      Quote: kos2cool4u
      The only question is what did the author smoke?)))) I also want this kind of grass :)))

      Not worth it! wink The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation WARNS: "smoking is DANGEROUS for" their "HEALTH" hi
  • Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 3 January 2016 15: 28 New
    10
    some garbage !!
    1. Grandfather Luka
      Grandfather Luka 3 January 2016 16: 01 New
      +8
      I agree, bullshit! They are stubbornly trying to impose on us the myth of our backwardness from NATO in conventional weapons. I'm not ready to give exact figures, but we have tanks alone three or four times more than in the entire western bloc (Europe not counting the United States), the same is true for other types of weapons. As recent campaigns have shown, coordination seems to be more or less, in contrast to Western colleagues. Personally, I am quite calm about our defense potential. Let "they" experience it.
      Ps. So the Poles write this, I didn’t see it immediately in the title, I was twitching in vain, it was possible not to react at all.
      1. Grandfather Luka
        Grandfather Luka 3 January 2016 16: 28 New
        0
        Although the author has a bit of reason, he at least understands that the war in Europe will take place on the territory of Poland, and his concern about this is very helpful.
        1. Submarine B-41
          Submarine B-41 3 January 2016 16: 33 New
          +1
          Quote: Grandfather Luka
          ... his concern about this is very welcome.

          This campaign is NOT a concern, but an anticipation of BDSM! wink
          1. Vadim237
            Vadim237 3 January 2016 17: 07 New
            0
            This is a thermonuclear sado - maso - in Polish.
      2. Thronekeeper
        Thronekeeper 3 January 2016 17: 21 New
        +2
        I’m talking about the fact that Shkhlyukhtich could not pass Red Alet-2.
        He has different units for all laughing And it’s not me who is kidding, it’s the journalist writes so.
        The war between the Russian Federation and the United States is more suited to the scenario that the author attributed to the China-United States scenario. Namely "air-sea".
        Convoys and AUGs are being processed by Tu-22M3 companions like the MiG-31 interceptors, cruisers and, especially APRKSN, together with the above-mentioned base aviation, help them meet with the Titanic. Not only Baltic and World Championships are closed, but also half of Mediterranean. And then - strikes against the air force and air defense bases of the United States and Russia are quite conventional, well, and the war in the air with the reflection of fighters and air defense strikers under the protection of fighters.
        China has no fleet, no base aircraft, no anti-ship missile system, no anti-missile defense system for the "game" that pshek drew. How did India end up there? Who would she attack? :-)
        And the main file is that any scenario should be a response to US aggression in order to at least slightly correspond to reality.
        And the geopolitical message is fundamentally wrong. Status Quo suits EVERYONE. Except the United States, with their schizophrenoid Pax Americana in every sense.
        Europe did not look at such creeps (not a jackal, as Church called Poland), and that Gazprom and Rosneft could block the pipes, and there capitulation, or joining the war on the side of the Russian Federation, did not look at the author. Who will be the leaders in Europe in person, will there be another EU and in what form, how many countries will NATO leave?
        To thump and drive Redu - is harmful.
  • 3vs
    3vs 3 January 2016 15: 29 New
    +9
    "There is no other state in the world that can be compared in this respect with America."
    How much servility, how do you want to lick overseas owners ...
  • JACTUS RECTUS
    JACTUS RECTUS 3 January 2016 15: 30 New
    19
    "It is not the USA that initiates the war" !!! "This state protects, does not attack" - He rolled with laughter at the top of his voice at the entire bridge, the captain looked askance in bewilderment, since before that they had been sitting in complete silence for an hour.
  • Thronekeeper
    Thronekeeper 3 January 2016 15: 31 New
    10
    Did he, the beta tester Red-Alert-4, not leave the hangover after NG or was he always such a dolt?
  • Mjohn
    Mjohn 3 January 2016 15: 31 New
    +9
    Poles in terms of "licking ass" Obama will give odds to Turks and ukram laughing
    1. GSH-18
      GSH-18 3 January 2016 19: 03 New
      +1
      Quote: MJohn
      Poles in terms of "licking ass" Obama will give odds to Turks and ukram laughing

      Well, why so directly in the forehead? lol Do not offend the Poles, this is their old-time proven policy-surrender before the declaration of war and spread your legs laughing V.I. Lenin about them very accurately expressed himself in this style.
      Calling Poland a European prostitute.
      1. Alexey Lobanov
        Alexey Lobanov 4 January 2016 12: 53 New
        -1
        Quote: GSH-18
        Do not offend the Poles, this is their old-time proven policy-surrender before the declaration of war and spread your legs

        Here you are in vain, the Poles in the war were almost the only ones in Europe who really fought against Hitler. The Germans lost in Poland about 15 thousand killed. And in the French company (where they were opposed by the troops of France and Great Britain - the two most powerful countries in Europe) they lost 45 thousand killed. The Poles are good fighters; to see, they have not completely lost Slavic roots.
        1. avva2012
          avva2012 4 January 2016 13: 12 New
          +1
          Here you are in vain, the Poles in the war were almost the only ones in Europe
          Russia has nothing to do with Europe, of course. Asia-s.
          And, in general, they had a strange war with Hitler in Poland. The Home Army had an order: "to keep the rifle at the boot", ie, in the conflict between Germany and the USSR, not to interfere. Since they are "the primordial enemies of Poland". So, the AK began to actively "fight", just when the Red Army came to the territory of Poland, and, of course, with her. Also, AK, showed itself when in the winter of 45, women, old people and children of German nationality tried to return to Germany in the form of refugees. Here, here the patriots of the "Polish troops" showed themselves in all their glory. Of course, together with the "militia". The whole winter road was sprinkled with red.
          1. Alexey Lobanov
            Alexey Lobanov 4 January 2016 19: 23 New
            +2
            I do not consider Russia not Europe, not Asia, just Russia. And you didn’t beguile about the army of the region, it is about the 39th year.
            "Here, here the patriots of the" Polish troops "- damn it, you just confused everything, the Polish Army is ours, and the army of the Krajiev is the Americans. And the Polish Army had nothing to do with the riot of Polish patriotism with German" refugees "!
            1. Alexey Lobanov
              Alexey Lobanov 4 January 2016 19: 44 New
              0
              For fastidies, NO Europe, NO Asia ...
  • VNP1958PVN
    VNP1958PVN 3 January 2016 15: 32 New
    +2
    The Poles have been agitated since the beginning of the year ... Oh yeah, there are no fools to drink either!
  • Viktor.N.Aleksandrov.
    Viktor.N.Aleksandrov. 3 January 2016 15: 34 New
    14
    Another vyser Pshek to show his importance in the eyes of staff and Europa and get something as a military aid. It’s just with rockets that we can hit, and then tanks will be left to finish.
  • HAM
    HAM 3 January 2016 15: 38 New
    +9
    The shape of each future “great war” is set by the United States, although they rather do not initiate it, since it is a state that protects what it has, and not a hungry rising power

    Rather, America is the "hungry descending power", or rather, ever-hungry, as its own

    Indeed, and the eternal toadies of the Poles. The author argues as the Deputy Minister of Defense of America, who has at least an army behind him, and this dreamer suffers from some mania, he really wants to remember about Poland .. and, nevertheless, the author could not resist, licked .. ..
  • Alexei-
    Alexei- 3 January 2016 15: 39 New
    +5
    Pshekovo phantom pains about past greatness, like .... to hold on to the scribble and with a strict look))))
  • Andrey Draganov
    Andrey Draganov 3 January 2016 15: 42 New
    +3
    The author is not as distant as all NATO with the entire Western world. The author is ignored.
  • avia1991
    avia1991 3 January 2016 15: 46 New
    +3
    If a global conflict breaks out, not every corner of the world will be equally threatened by a fire.
    Yeah, yeah .. Amerikosy still hope to sit out ??? HA! If something like this begins, I doubt that we will stupidly stomp at our borders: the strike will be dealt to the leadership of the aggressor state, PRIMARILY! So goodbye Fashington! .. "Strategists", mml .. with withered brains.
  • Mixweb
    Mixweb 3 January 2016 15: 48 New
    +5
    Russia has no chance?))))))))))) Given that Europeans without the United States, even with Libya, could not figure it out, then where are they against Russia?
  • igorka357
    igorka357 3 January 2016 15: 48 New
    13
    In the age of high-precision nuclear weapons, not a single country can wage war far from its borders! It will fly unambiguously! And another article minus for saying that China is separated from Siberia from the populated center of Russia, for the author does not live in Siberia for a campaign! nonsense and not an article, nothing! There will be no great war so far, until the Americans are confident in their impunity, and they are not sure, because they are pissed off!
    1. Fafnir
      Fafnir 3 January 2016 16: 44 New
      +3
      And what did you actually expect from censored Polish journalism and Xpert to see? wassat
  • Dimon19661
    Dimon19661 3 January 2016 15: 50 New
    +6
    The article has a lot of blunders and allegations sucked from a finger, I read it on INOSMI, there the people in comments were also not enthusiastic.
    1. MIKHALYCH1
      MIKHALYCH1 3 January 2016 15: 56 New
      +5
      Quote: Dimon19661
      In the article there are a lot of blunders and allegations sucked from a finger, I read it on INOSMI, there the people in the comments were also not enthusiastic.

      Sometimes it is useful to read such articles ... There is a hidden war against Russia, while we all smile sweetly at each other, but the hour is near when we will see the animal grin of the "partners" ...
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 3 January 2016 17: 10 New
        +5
        One "partner" has already shown us this grin - Turkey.
  • chunga-changa
    chunga-changa 3 January 2016 15: 51 New
    +3
    The analysis is correct. Most likely, Poland will ogrebot its own in any case, together with Ukraine, the Baltic states and Finland. Unfortunately. Something completely different, England, France, Germany, should be raking. And if something is possible for Germany and will arrive according to the old habit, then France and England can sleep perfectly well. Half of London, the Cote d'Azur and Paris have been bought by "our" officials, generals and oligarchs and keep their families and money there. In their blood, they simply will not allow bombing.
    This, by the way, is one of the elements of preparation for a big war.
    If half of Moscow and St. Petersburg were bought by the Anglo-Saxons and their families lived in them and money lay, the conversation with them would have been completely different. Well, about how the Americans are now talking with "our" elite.
    1. Corsair
      Corsair 3 January 2016 16: 03 New
      +4
      Quote: chunga-changa
      And if something is possible for Germany and will arrive according to the old habit, then France and England can sleep perfectly well. Half of London, the Cote d'Azur and Paris were bought out by "our" officials and oligarchs. In their own way, they will not allow bombing.

      wassat Write nonsense, in the event of a major war, no one will understand who is currently where the children / brother / matchmaker / wife / parents have specific goals defined by the General Staff, the defense and offensive strategy of the Russian Federation, and long before the departure of any riffraff to Landans and Paris.
      1. Vadim237
        Vadim237 3 January 2016 17: 12 New
        -5
        In the event of a major war, it is necessary to dump in Egypt, while thermonuclear warheads will be torn in the territory of the USA and Russia, you will calmly sunbathe under the sun on the beach.
      2. chunga-changa
        chunga-changa 3 January 2016 23: 51 New
        +1
        And to the General Staff who approves the list of goals, signs? And in the General Staff itself, not only orphans work without a family of children.
    2. sanyavolhv
      sanyavolhv 3 January 2016 17: 11 New
      0
      health
      you are right of course. however, you have forgotten your shirt as close to your body as much as the personal valuables in the west are in danger in Russia. According to the laws of war, they no longer need all that ....
      I’m personally ready to hit me with a vigorous contraption. I hope to be in Belgravia and evaporate in steam without even realizing it. By the way, the bulk of all kinds of people live there ....
  • PSih2097
    PSih2097 3 January 2016 15: 52 New
    +3
    To offset this imbalance, they provide for the possibility of using tactful nuclear warheads. belay

    Oh yes, create another author ...
    1. yuriy55
      yuriy55 3 January 2016 16: 27 New
      +3
      Oh yeah! We are all "God's creatures" The author is still that ... what
  • plotnikov561956
    plotnikov561956 3 January 2016 15: 53 New
    +4
    And here Poland found a place for itself as a gasket for obtaining "p..lei" ... Russian tanks will pass through Warsaw, they will not go round ...
  • Armored optimist
    Armored optimist 3 January 2016 15: 54 New
    +1
    "... they provide for the use of tactful nuclear warheads." Well, the stump is clear, we have not only polite people, but also warheads. If we do not bully, then there is nothing to be afraid of.
  • Abbra
    Abbra 3 January 2016 15: 57 New
    +1
    The Poles have great-grandchildren of four tankers and great-great-great-grandchildren of a famous dog. If that will help.
    1. avva2012
      avva2012 3 January 2016 16: 37 New
      +2
      They will not help. These were our Poles, and the dog, obviously not simple. wink
      Those Poles in the film fought for another Poland. For example, Voytsekh Vitold Yaruzelsky. And this is a Russophobic miscarriage, not a country.
      1. Armored optimist
        Armored optimist 3 January 2016 18: 28 New
        +2
        Then they joked that this was a film about how "three Poles and a dog won the Second World War with the help of a Georgian."
        1. poquello
          poquello 3 January 2016 20: 03 New
          +1
          Quote: armored optimist
          Then they joked that this was a film about how "three Poles and a dog won the Second World War with the help of a Georgian."

          good movie, son is now happy to watch
  • mivmim
    mivmim 3 January 2016 16: 03 New
    +3

    Can we swam? Be sure to swag but then. laughing
  • Alfizik
    Alfizik 3 January 2016 16: 08 New
    +6
    After the words "Russian invasion of Georgia and Ukraine", the article could no longer be read. In general, we should not read the articles of malicious Russophobes, so as not to push them to write opuses. The less they talk about the likelihood of a new world war, the less the probability itself will be. Well, if the Third World War did happen, the Poles received a personal invitation to Kostroma.
  • rov81
    rov81 3 January 2016 16: 10 New
    +5
    How did the author ANALYSIS his data, that he came to this conclusion, does he even imagine what nuclear weapons are? Yes, no country after the use of nuclear weapons does not come to its senses in order to continue to fight with the enemy. The European part of NATO will die within an hour, and the rest how it goes!)
  • avva2012
    avva2012 3 January 2016 16: 16 New
    +6
    The article almost laughed. Passages, like, Russia will hit the ground forces, and the NATO countries, aviation and all this over our heads! Yes, not yours, but yours. Moreover, in vain the author hopes for aviation, because we have not at all weak air defense. In any case, Poland will not be envied in the event of a conflict, nuclear or not. There will be no such state and all. So, to rejoice or to grieve, the author with gusli in a pan will be somewhere there.
    Over the past ten years, China has been developing offensive means to defeat US bases in the Pacific Ocean and naval strike units.
    For this, the author, offset. Man managed to study the plans of Japan in World War II. Well, what does China have to do with it, it’s not clear.
  • evil partisan
    evil partisan 3 January 2016 16: 18 New
    +9
    I am moved by similar analolytic articles from Pshekov's iksperds. The former greatness does not allow doctors to finish the treatment: the patient fiddles with whatever he does and takes any kaku into his mouth, and the result is this kind of "analytics". The degrading state, which has been following the path of de-industrialization for the third decade already, is trying to present itself as a worthy geopolitical player. Yes, their entire geopolitics is limited to the western regions of Ukraine. And that's all. It's time to get used to it.
  • 33 Watcher
    33 Watcher 3 January 2016 16: 19 New
    +8
    Is Poland reasoning? Mmmdaaa ... laughing Well, this is of course specialists in the conduct of world wars laughing
  • DobryAAH
    DobryAAH 3 January 2016 16: 20 New
    0
    Not, of course, the Pole is right. The whole war will be in Europe, and the Americans will shell us, but we will not. So a little bit of water procedures with Status 6 and that’s it, complete recovery.
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 3 January 2016 17: 20 New
      0
      Status 6 - which is not likely to remain a beautiful drawing.
      1. DobryAAH
        DobryAAH 3 January 2016 19: 00 New
        0
        Who knows who knows???
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  • mikh-korsakov
    mikh-korsakov 3 January 2016 16: 25 New
    11
    I hardly read this nonsense. All the reasoning at the level of the company of elderly drunks over a bottle of vodka or better - no less elderly pike vests in the "Golden Calf". The author simply retells the texts from American magazines for housewives. Again, Poland's megalomania is clearly expressed. They say, there is nowhere without Poland, Poland is such a great country, the epicenter of everything that happens on the globe, that it is she who is destined to die in a nuclear fire, and let some Ukraine or Romania not encroach on this role.
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  • Denis56rus
    Denis56rus 3 January 2016 16: 27 New
    +6
    Russian invasion of Georgia and Ukraine. You are sane. You are from Badun
  • SklochPensioner
    SklochPensioner 3 January 2016 16: 32 New
    +6
    A typical pshek, with a typical ambition argues, looking from the height of his greatness, at the fuss of the "world military giants" laughing

    Why do we need to know this? what
    1. Submarine B-41
      Submarine B-41 3 January 2016 16: 45 New
      +5
      Quote: SklochPensioner


      Why do we need to know this? what


      Yes, pure neighing. lol
  • X Y Z
    X Y Z 3 January 2016 16: 42 New
    +3
    The author go fry yourself the brisket with eggs, open a couple of beers and stop carrying nonsense nonsense. This is better than demonstrating a large portion of megalomania with Polish sauce and acting out an analyst.
  • sania275
    sania275 3 January 2016 16: 45 New
    +2
    It is not possible to read this bullshit indifferently. A great desire to move the fist into the screen. An article of a typical Russophobe, but at the same time, USA licking in one face. I hate bl
  • cap
    cap 3 January 2016 16: 47 New
    +3
    talagaAndrzej Talaga
    The Great War may erupt, but it is not a foregone conclusion. Now the probability that the fuse will be set on fire is low, but the pace of world events has accelerated markedly. ” “The discrepancies in the interests of major players are becoming more and more pronounced, and the ambitions of the rising powers, especially China and Russia, are articulating more clearly.
    “If the Russians attack with full force, our army will not be able to cope with them, in turn, the European NATO members do not have sufficient potential and political will to immediately take action. So the United States remains. So at the beginning of the "great war" we can expect a swift offensive on land in Poland, which will enter our country as a wedge before we get reinforcements. ”
    "The United States is consistently implementing the above points, as a result, a conflict on American territory has become impossible, and the likelihood of an air attack is very limited, so America will wage a future" great war "away from its shores."
    “The form of each future“ great war ”is given by the United States, although they rather do not initiate it, since it is a state that defends what it has, and not a hungry rising power. America sets and decades will set the tone for strategy, military technology and the study of new areas of reality for military purposes. There is no other state in the world that can be compared with America in this regard. ”
    “Secondly, the Americans want to dominate the North Atlantic and the North Pacific in order to prevent the enemy from approaching their coast. Thirdly, they do not want to allow one power to become dominant in Eurasia, since on the whole it surpasses the potential of the United States and could defeat them. ”
    “This is primarily about the United States or NATO as a whole, China, Russia and India. Their aspirations are aimed in one direction: to consolidate or gain the ability to wage war on a global scale or, at least, in the eastern hemisphere (Russians, Chinese, Indians). ”
    “The theater of the“ great war ”will become if the United States and China collide in it, primarily the Pacific Ocean and East Asia; and if the Alliance clashes with Moscow, the strip between Russia and the NATO states - from the Arctic to the Mediterranean Sea. ” “... and if Russia strikes with land forces, NATO with aviation and missiles. And all this will happen over our heads, sowing destruction and death. ” “It should be noted that in the second case, Poland will be exactly in the middle of the potential front.”
    The media are now focused on the war with the Islamic State, but the global military giants are preparing their armies for a conflict of an incomparably larger scale. "
    Strategic fabrication of “a security expert, former deputy editor-in-chief of the newspaper Rzeczpospolita, employee of the analytical center of the Warsaw Enterprise Institute.” more reminiscent of the exclamation of Kozodoev ... "everything is gone chef ... they remove the plaster !!!" laughing
    1. Tektor
      Tektor 4 January 2016 00: 42 New
      +1
      If the conflict is conventional, Russia has no chance.
      This phrase comes from an analyst who did not follow the latest news regarding the Russian armed forces. In particular, news of their ability to withdraw the ZPS satellite constellation slipped away. How much this will complicate the conduct of military operations of the states is clear after the statements of some informed Pentagon sources. On the other hand, the states are trying to persuade us to sign a treaty on the reduction of conventional arms! .. This is something new ... We seem to be infinitely behind? Or is it not infinite? Of course, we can say that by doing so, the states are trying to calculate our conventional forces in order to more accurately plan the necessary superiority for a successful strike. The tactic is simple: make us spend carriers in conventional equipment for secondary targets, well, like, ISIS. And to calculate the moment of overwhelming superiority ... But there is one more "BUT": the states are not sure that they can cope with our defense on the basis of modern electronic warfare systems without using TNW. Therefore, there are a lot of uncertainties that require additional time for analysis. We really need this time. Vanga told Hitler that he would win the war in the east if he started in 39 or 44. And she was right: by the first term, the Soviet army was still very weak, and by the second, Hitler would have had an atomic bomb ... that you can't declare war whenever you want: there must be a logical calculation. If the war starts right now, there will be very heavy losses. A year later, our power will increase significantly, and in another year it will become a guarantee of security, and no one will dare to climb on us.
  • Andryukha G
    Andryukha G 3 January 2016 16: 49 New
    +4
    The article was written by a Pole with the sole purpose of justifying the deployment of American nuclear weapons on Polish territory. if you don’t scream (as in the Russian folk tale about a boy) diligently and daily "Wolves, Wolves" may even be forgotten in the world community.
  • _my opinion
    _my opinion 3 January 2016 16: 50 New
    0
    If a global conflict breaks out, not every corner of the world will be equally threatened by a fire.

    well, let's say Mars, the Moon, Jupiter will be little threatened, but our planet will not seem enough ... if at all it will be after that ...
  • Tihas
    Tihas 3 January 2016 16: 51 New
    +4
    Why did I read this ?? sad
  • Cucumbers
    Cucumbers 3 January 2016 16: 51 New
    0
    Of all the options, the most real is the conflict between the US and Russia, with a high degree of probability, nuclear. Recent events confirm this. These are US actions in Ukraine and Syria, as well as the imposition of sanctions against Russia, aimed at isolating Russia and depleting it economics. The USA has no problems with China, they have good turnover, Chinese investments in the USA. Yes, they sometimes punish China if it is too friendly with Russia. And it doesn’t go beyond talking, take at least the Silk Road by Russia. They also try to intimidate India, after Modi’s visit to Moscow. Cut off all possible allies. And Russia is already in full swing preparing for a large-scale war. As the English say, history is not going to good, the conflict will be the last for them, they do not want to respect us.
  • sanyavolhv
    sanyavolhv 3 January 2016 16: 52 New
    +4
    health
    the Pole is certainly right in one they should wait for the blue animal at home. and then stupidity. he still does not understand that Russia does not need territories. Russia is hindered by fools on the borders. getting rid of fools will become easier. the more fools to remove from the borders, the less problems remain in the future. and let those who remain in these territories live so let this intelligence control.
    ttanki, and other equipment needed for defense on the perimeter. what for these Europeans if they themselves do not try to think, do not become smart.
  • Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 3 January 2016 16: 55 New
    +2
    The poles worry in vain. Nobody takes into account Greater Poland, as well as the Baltic Moseks. The war will be won in the North Atlantic by communications. The Americans will be able to ensure the transfer of troops and their supply - maybe some kind of war will happen, but they will not be able (for which we will try to do everything), alas ... In reality, Russia has no opponent in Europe.
    1. Jurkovs
      Jurkovs 3 January 2016 17: 04 New
      +3
      You think in the strategic categories of World War II.
  • lopvlad
    lopvlad 3 January 2016 17: 05 New
    +9
    If the conflict is conventional, Russia has no chance.

    conducting conventional wars when you are attacked by an equal or superior enemy in force ended exactly with the release of the "fat man" and "baby" on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. From that moment on, any country that has nuclear weapons will definitely use them if it is threatened with destruction or defeat.

    In such a situation it is necessary to ensure dominance in the air. And if Russia hits the ground forces, NATO - aviation and missiles. And all this will happen over our heads, sowing destruction and death.


    they like to dream of Poles. When Napoleon dreamed of how he would hunt a Russian bear, and now they trust in the USA.
    Only now the reality will be harsh and instead of a beautiful flight of NATO missiles and planes in the direction of which it is guessed "to Moscow" these missiles and planes will fall on their heads.
    Such is the fate of this petty evil state with imperial ambitions.
    1. Oprychnik
      Oprychnik 3 January 2016 19: 24 New
      0
      "If the conflict is conventional, Russia has no chance"

      You are right about Napoleon. Although the Poles waved it too. Well, they can’t not wave anyone. Well, where is that Napoleon? Together with the Poles and a bunch of other dirty scum? Thousands of 30 from Russia, in my opinion, out of the declared 600000 managed to get out. Joseph Vissarionovich, the wisest man, stopped the attack on Warsaw, when they again wanted to wave England and America, and raised a rebellion. He let the Germans figure it out, saved his strength, and then, when the Germans themselves figured out, he did it. The wise Joseph Pshekov did not like ...
      1. avva2012
        avva2012 3 January 2016 19: 34 New
        +1
        On the bill, "suspended the offensive", do not repeat things invented in the West, including the Polish government in exile. Better take and read about Operation Bagration. Estimate how many kilometers have passed, how much fuel and lubricants have spent, how tired the soldiers are. Add lagging rear and whatnot. For example, a suburb of Warsaw called Prague.
        We, and so in Poland, lost about 600 thousand. Where in better conditions.
        1. Oprychnik
          Oprychnik 3 January 2016 19: 44 New
          0
          Yes, I would also not advise you to take on faith what is written in memoirs. Can you spread your brains yourself?
          1. avva2012
            avva2012 3 January 2016 20: 20 New
            0
            Well, take it and figure it out. How long did the operation "Bagration" last, what were the resources, what was left. Moreover, here is a memoir. Everything is quite open, i.e., the number of troops, our losses and the Germans.
            Well, and most of all it is alarming when the liberal media write that "it was Stalin who suspended the attack on Warsaw". And, what an idea, "the Bolshevik beasts, sitting on the other bank, enjoying themselves, looked through binoculars at how the inhabitants of Warsaw were being killed." Do you really think "beasts"?
            1. Oprychnik
              Oprychnik 3 January 2016 21: 06 New
              0
              Just so you know, Stalin had personal scores with the Poles. During the "Bolshevik-Polish" war. At dawn on April 25, 1920, Polish troops invaded Ukraine on a wide front from Pripyat to Dniester. The South-Western Front (commander A. I. Egorov, member of the Revolutionary Military Council R. I. Berzin) was forced to retreat under pressure from superior enemy forces. On April 28, the Politburo of the Central Committee of the RCP (b) approved the plan for repelling the Polish aggression, prepared by the Revolutionary Military Council of the republic. He envisaged that the main blow would be dealt by the troops of the Western Front in Belarus. M.N. Tukhachevsky was appointed to the post of front commander. The southwestern front was to deliver an auxiliary strike in the general direction of Brest. By decision of the Central Committee of the RCP (b), J.V. Stalin was introduced to the military council of the front.
              “The losses of the Red Army during the hostilities are not known exactly, but for all reasons they should be no less than Polish. And this is about 200 thousand people. In addition, about 60 thousand prisoners of war died in Polish camps. Thus, during the war killed tens of thousands of Russian soldiers. "
              Joseph Vissarionovich was aware of his responsibility in this war. Moreover, many of his very reasonable proposals were not accepted, which could have led the war to a more favorable outcome. And Stalin rarely forgot anything. And you don't need to blame me for "liberal" views. The fact that our people are trying to justify themselves in this case by "exhaustion of forces" does not mean that they did not exist. Let the Poles get what they deserve in full. under the "Western changeable" world. What they wanted, they got it. That is, sorry, but "kizdyuley".
              1. avva2012
                avva2012 3 January 2016 21: 37 New
                +1
                And Stalin rarely forgot anything. And you shouldn't blame me for "liberal" views.
                Do you imagine I.V. Stalin, such a vicious abrek who had hatched revenge for so many years? Well, if so, then, for : "The losses of the Red Army in the course of hostilities are not exactly known, but for all reasons they should be no less than Polish ones. And this is about 200 thousand people. In addition, about 60 thousand prisoners of war died in Polish camps. Thus, in tens of thousands of Russian soldiers died during the war. " To 1944., those who were to blame for this already paid in full: the commander A.I. Egorov, member of the Revolutionary Military Council R.I. Berzin, M.N. Tukhachevsky. They were shot. What are the Poles to blame for? It is not necessary from Stalin to try to draw such a monster. It is I.V. Stalin, annexed part of eastern Prussia to Poland, and also solved the problem of the Volyn massacre. That is, the Poles sent to Poland and the Ukrainians who lived in those places were sent to Ukraine. Very humane acted. And in liberalism, I do not blame you, I simply remind you where this information grows from.
                1. Oprychnik
                  Oprychnik 3 January 2016 22: 10 New
                  -2
                  And what, the truth is weak? And what is insulting for Joseph Vissarionovich, who, without any embarrassment, was spat on at the time?
                  So we will jackals on wool to stroke?
                  1. avva2012
                    avva2012 3 January 2016 22: 40 New
                    0
                    Just one "truth" pulls another. If we admit that they stood and watched, then why didn't we shoot the officers in Katyn? I know that our government has officially recognized the fact of the tragedy. But, despite this, there is not enough evidence that the NKVD was engaged in this. And if we assume that the partners will try to arrange another tribunal, it is unlikely that they will succeed. And, here, "standing on the Vistula", from a purely moral point of view, does not really paint our homeland with you, does it? And Iosif Vissarionovich was spat upon by our liberals and embezzlers who were rehabilitated en masse. None of the ordinary people who lived at that time, I.V. Stalin did not spit and did not say anything bad.
  • Dmitry Potapov
    Dmitry Potapov 3 January 2016 17: 05 New
    +4
    Quote: YohanPalych
    For the first time in my life (in VO) I minus an article (or rather, the author) I didn’t read a more schizoid delirium (except for the works of American schoolchildren) ...

    Pshek once again licked at exceptional
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  • Ingvvar08
    Ingvvar08 3 January 2016 17: 23 New
    +5
    Russian invasion of Georgia and Ukraine
    after that you can no longer read
  • holgert
    holgert 3 January 2016 17: 33 New
    +1
    Most of all are afraid of those who shit three boxes for us ----- our "" friends "" Poles !!!! Fear and awe is felt in every line !!!! .....
    1. Pirogov
      Pirogov 3 January 2016 17: 55 New
      0
      I fully support!
  • Sergey333
    Sergey333 3 January 2016 17: 38 New
    +1
    Bullshit...
    1. Elizabeth
      Elizabeth 3 January 2016 18: 18 New
      0
      Bullshit...

      This is not nonsense, but a national idea
  • samoletil18
    samoletil18 3 January 2016 17: 40 New
    0
    On vacation in Egypt, there were once neighbors on the right, Poles, on the left, Westerners. Neither one nor the other showed belligerence towards Russia. On the contrary, we were interested in where it is possible to visit besides Moscow and St. Petersburg, we lamented about the absence of our tourists from them, like we are such close peoples, but we do not rest with each other. But as soon as their "elites" and the media start to run up something, you immediately think that it would be good if they all ended up in North America closer to the United States.