PAK-200 field kitchen based on KamAZ

At the Interpolitex-2015 security exhibition, held in Moscow in the second half of October, the PAK-200 field kitchen was demonstrated, reports Rossiyskaya Gazeta.

The kitchen is based on the KAMAZ chassis and there are no trailed boilers of the post-war sample in its set.

According to the developers of the kitchen from the factory “Spetstekhmash” (Vsevolozhsk, Leningrad region), “due to better organization of the internal space and redistribution of equipment between the working areas, greater comfort will be achieved for the kitchen staff”.

“In the kunge there are three cooking pots with capacities from 80, 120 and 150 liters. The last two are combined with a baking sheet and oven. The boilers are heated with kerosene, diesel fuel or firewood. Perishable products are stored in a two-compartment refrigerator, other ingredients and bread - in two cabinets. There are two work tables for cooks, a bath for washing products, a vegetable cutter, a meat grinder and other mechanisms, ”the plant representatives told.

According to them, "PAK-200 is designed for cooking on 200 people, in Kunge there is a daily supply of food and 450 liters of drinking water."

It is also noted that “the heating, air-conditioning system and the filtering unit make it possible to cook dinner in any weather, even in contaminated areas.”

The calculation of the kitchen - 2 person.

Comments

[tasey]

MOBDs in the Strategic Missile Forces - much better

[vovanpain]

Now it's time. War is war, and lunch is on schedule.

[gjv]

Quote: vovanpain

War is war, and lunch is on schedule.

Quote: andr327

Especially the old 117 units.

Quote: dchegrinec

The Russian army should not be hungry.

Quote: Angry Pinnochio

yes a soldier should always be fed especially after training or combat

Both day and night field kitchens boil.

[andr327]

Especially the old 117 units. Not a dining room but a restaurant!

[Truth]

If you just dream ...
How many of their tanks, for such a wheelbarrow, will the hungry "dill" give if the guys from Novorossiya offer an exchange deal?

[R-140]

And what a good idea !!!

[Kunar]

A dry drink is better .... I think so ....

[Lexa-149]

Of course, it is tasty, but you won’t last long on it. Gastritis will be provided!
Therefore, the soldier must be fed fresh and hot food.

[PSih2097]

Quote: Kunar

A dry drink is better .... I think so ....

for a week ... then even shrapnel steamed with tsimus will appear

[NDR-791]

No, they came up with garbage !!! We had the old KP-48 and KP-130. Now, if you insert at least one of them into that KUNG, then the kapets will cook.
Themselves estimate 80 + 120 + 150 boiling water in the volume of even a long KUNG (50 cubic meters) - a full kirdyk, and three times a day - absolutely kirdyk. So this is the "kitchen for colonels and above." And the place for eating is a sun lounger on the windward side of the solar exhaust.
By the way, we in the Strategic Missile Forces used modules (military, residential, household) based on the then semi-axial MAZ. And that household serviced only officers, and behind our URALS KP-130 spiked. And the elephants came to us not to control, but to smack the seagull with smoke. But the solarium was not saved then, but the fighter should always be busy, therefore ARSH FOR THE FIREWOOD !!!

[gjv]

Quote: tasey

MOBDs in the Strategic Missile Forces - much better

Plyusanul, but it became curious: And what is much better? Is there a coupe?

So this is the specifics of the destination. The composition and arrangement of kitchen equipment?

So this business is acquired, again determined by purpose (number of eaters and cooking technology).
That's exactly what the MOBD differs in its size. However, this is also the specifics of the destination. Such a car fits into the Strategic Missile Forces park, it is its own there. But in the park of a different kind of troops with such dimensions, this is unlikely.

[Altona]

Quote: gjv

That's exactly what the MOBD differs in its size. However, this is also the specifics of the destination. Such a car fits into the Strategic Missile Forces park, it is its own there.

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So what is the base chassis. In fact, the dining car ...

[Lexa-149]

Yeah ... It’s even hard to imagine such fucking as part of SMEs or SMEs. It can’t even be properly disguised in the area of ​​concentration.

[svp67]

Quote: tasey

MOBDs in the Strategic Missile Forces - much better

Each vegetable has its own fruit. It's me that the PAK-200 is designed to provide power to our tank and motorized infantry units and is simply obliged to have excellent maneuverability and be small enough in size to make it easier to mask.
And the old PAK-200 consisted of two halves, the PAK itself and the trailer

[Andrey Yuryevich]

AAAAAAAAAA !!!! my eyes!!!! why did I look at IT !!! we would have such a "kitchen" in 81st ...! ate cold buckwheat (pearl barley, rice) from jars of biscuits! (polygon Magdeburg) drank "tea" from a ZIL 131 radiator ... romance, yes, but God forbid anyone.

[Sorokin]

In 1988, banks were dry on collectors in the morning heated. There are no firewood in the Uzbeks. And in the mornings, it’s only 10-12 degrees even in the afternoon under 45-50.

[Nick]

Quote: Sorokin

And in the mornings, then all 10-12 degrees even during the day under 45-50.

Continental climate. What to do...

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: Sorokin

In 1988, banks were dry on collectors in the morning heated. There are no firewood in the Uzbeks. And in the mornings, it’s only 10-12 degrees even in the afternoon under 45-50.

I thought ... one slice of bread

[sergant67]

1988 Saryshagan (Priozersk). Bread in the form of batter under a burnt hill. Golem perlofan without salt in one big lump, canned goods stolen from officers (not every day), a toilet in stone chips with a depth of 0,5 meters, half l / s with intestinal disorders. For 14 days, minus 8 kg. At night, the temperature is about + 2-3 degrees. But fired at ex. There I first saw firing from 300 .....)))) Pleasant time. Nostalgia ...)))

[Lexa-149]

In our country, on the Tajik-Afghan border, one baker decided to make a free stop and disgusting baked bread. After a thorough conversation with the fighters, he began to get better bread in a field baker than in a stationary bakery of the 201st MSD!
This is what BITIO DETERMINES CONSCIOUSNESS!

[Asadullah]

we would have such a "kitchen"

Possession of a certain VUS at all discourages craving for culinary delights. Dry, dry, trophy lamb with wild garlic in calcined zinc, and after the third war we still eat mainly cereals, with the expectation of a break in food intake. If you have to go without food all day, I’ll refuel with barley steamed in milk. A day without lunch, corn slice. Oh, and there is no need, but the habit of not breaking any restaurants, alas.

[Kunar]

That's right, ours !!! Food is divided into proteins, fats and carbohydrates. And in what capacity they hit the body, these are the problems of the Indians)))) 2645 grams and niipet ... Next to the wolf they feed their feet .... Tea didn’t come to eat .... Happy New Year !!!!

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: Kunar

That's right, ours !!! Food is divided into proteins, fats and carbohydrates. And in what capacity they hit the body, these are the problems of the Indians)))) 2645 grams and niipet ... Next to the wolf they feed their feet .... Tea didn’t come to eat .... Happy New Year !!!!

[Beerdoc]

Let the little brother disagree. Just the presence of a specific VUS determines some skills. It is the need to form a diet in conditions of separation from a large boiler that develops culinary skills. This is the same pattern soldier and porridge from the ax. I don’t know what your rules were, but they taught me: a group officer must own everything, including the nutrition of personnel. I still have a meat elder in my family, and this is not a trophy product from the hunt, where the law is clear, an ordinary market-store. A daughter in a tavern sends a waiter to our table - to determine what to eat). On holidays, our woman - kicks us into the kitchen with kicks, we create there. In my circle of friends, all wives admit that we are wizards with this VUS, but lazy. Kum calls me and I climb into the refrigerator, and in the buffet for a glass, we discuss that pinch of salt, but smell that pile). Then we cut into a business trip or hunting. How many did not encounter, any soldier who knows how to act on a separation-cook. I saw from the jars soldered coffee makers-field, burners from standard consumables, I saw bended taganka-soldiers will always create comfort in the field). Therefore, they are afraid of us. We know how to fight without service. Something like this. The last phrase is not for likes, but real awareness of the sleepy colonel).

[Lexa-149]

soldered coffee makers-field

Such things from an empty can and a steel bar were called "CHEFIR-TANK" by my fighters!
Cheap, cheerful, convenient, efficient and throwing away is not a pity!

[Beerdoc]

Not). I had in mind a shaitan device soldered from two different-sized cans of non-scaffe. A dry fuel tablet is inserted into the lower compartment. Wash Ussuriites drove. In the first war I ran into terrible bronchitis, for 3 hours I could not crawl away from the boulder. A week with Ledum decoction works wonders.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: Beerdoc

I saw from the jars soldered coffee makers-field, burners from standard consumables, I saw bended taganka-soldiers will always create comfort in the field). Therefore they are afraid of us

Well ... what am I talking about? NATO will die, they can’t get tea from the radiator ...

[Strezhevchanin]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

Magdeburg) drank tea from the ZIL 131 radiator

Tea!!!!! We poured mash in Kamazyaka)))))

[Kunar]

And what for to pass state secrets?)))))))

[flay]

Oh ..... great-great-great grandfather, dear YOU JUST "FAT" compared to us. Call spring 1991 .......
Have you tried the "Soviet" version of the potato scourge ration?
I don’t even know, but the officers told us that "THIS" f ** b is supposed to be a fighter if there is no normal lunch. We were fed because there was simply nothing to "eat" in the army in those years. Buckwheat, O-O.). Buckwheat ... only on holidays.
Only we left the canteen starving, "THIS" brew was not what it was, it was impossible to EAT. Penzets .... how did they think to feed these soldiers, and even during "combat" actions?
If I then studied at the military-political school, cadet.

[Kunar]

They endured the hardships and deprivations of military service ... According to the oath once given and what?

[raketnik]

wow buddy ... where did such knowledge come from ?????

[Sergey Vladimirovich]

MOBDs are generally a dacha on wheels with the possibility of organizing a serious armed guard in "summer cottages", there is EVERYTHING except a warm toilet ... It would be altered, expanding the kitchen-dining capabilities and minimizing all the others as much as possible .. There would be a theme! Maybe the chassis is newer, the ones that are currently being used at Yars ... Dream ...

[Moore]

Quote: Sergey Vladimirovich

It would be redone, expanding the kitchen and dining facilities and ultimately minimizing all the others .. There would be a topic

And why would rocketers need him then?
Or is it type for personal use?

[Kunar]

PAK-200 looks a little different ....

[tokens3]

By the way ...
the question is not only how and with what speed will the field kitchen move.
The question is how quickly food will enter the soldier’s stomach, bypassing one ladle at all
Here the conveyor is needed. And quick sorting.

[Moore]

Quote: tasey

MOBDs in the Strategic Missile Forces - much better

Type 231 MOBDs are also designed for 200 people?
Why compare different units by the principle of application?
At one time, in the Lida division, I noticed how 15T117 and PAK-200 for the ZBO quite coexist in the same division, which is no less respected.

[CHILD]

What are you talking about? ... How can you compare a car for comfortable movement of 10 people, with .... a mobile field kitchen for 200 people? !!! and why not a cruise ship?! ... there are 15 restaurants there .. ..)))

[Gora66]

where does the MOBD and field mobile kitchen?

[dchegrinec]

The number was not assigned very well, but in principle, these developments are important. The Russian army should not be hungry. There is still something to improve.

[Haettenschweiler]

“She’s not hungry because there’s not enough kitchens!” And because the generals, the money allocated, including for allowance, "saw" and put it in their pockets. The "old" kitchens were no worse, just no matter how perfect the kitchen was, it would not make a piece of meat out of potato husks.

[iliitchitch]

Quote: Haettenschweiler

“She’s not hungry because there’s not enough kitchens!” And because the generals, the money allocated, including for allowance, "saw" and put it in their pockets. The "old" kitchens were no worse, just no matter how perfect the kitchen was, it would not make a piece of meat out of potato husks.

As I remember now, the head of the canteen closes in the evening, a warrantor nicknamed the "bad guy", so he leaves home loaded, like a "Belaz". What would he run a hundred meters in the final. I hope this disgrace is not held in high esteem today?

[gjv]

Quote: iliitch

I hope this disgrace is not respected today?

December 26, 2015 was an article Pro service in a scientific company. Reread http://topwar.ru/print:page,1,88239-pro-sluzhbu-v-nauchnoy-rote.html
The description of the portion of meat in the dining room is a complete "delight".

[APASUS]

Quote: gjv

Description of a portion of meat in the dining room - a complete "delight"

I was in the partisans last year in Vyborg for 10 days. The shooting range was 6 days for 16 hours and I had to eat in the field. Here's what I can tell you: All this is fable about the buffet and pickles for soldiers. There is enough food, but how it was impossible to eat all remains. Although now there is civil service, but the pasta is so boiled, it is placed on a plate like a snot.

[Maxom75]

a relative is studying at KVVAUL so says that when the generals and commissions arrive, they make a buffet, after leaving the top ranks everything again slides to rice, buckwheat and goulash. The buffet turns into a regular canteen, though of poor quality.

[Maxom75]

Because they do not follow the technology, cook on time, then rinse so as not to stick together. Boil the paste no longer than 10cm, as in the field it will be uncomfortable to eat it. Just master the money and do not care about the quality. if the money was paid in stages and partly as a premium for quality by the number of positive reviews. To do this, you need a buffet, and the menu was made by the number and choice of product by the military. And then we have a carriage on the fiber menu, and animal trouble is a disaster. Look at our youth, undersized and dead rickets. nutrition needs to be changed, emphasis on proteins and fresh fiber (fruits and vegetables). Less pasta and soy. Soya is a product of poor countries, rich countries of soybeans feed livestock, not the population.

[Teamon]

I sympathize with you .. In my year of service (2009-2010) in the village. Mulino just the same was a sin to complain about food .. They fed civilians. Twice a day and every day eggs. In the mornings, there was a sausage and a meat .. Dad told me that they were given eggs in the Soviet Union only on Sundays))). And even when we were on a business trip in Kapustnoy Yar, they were fed as scheduled ..)) Grechechka with a stew mmm ... The only moment was when we rode on that m Yar in the camp kitchen so they cooked pasta that they looked like butter

[Tiger4]

Window dressing remained window dressing! He served 81-83, was in the partisans in the 88th .... In my opinion, nothing has changed ((

[APASUS]

Quote: Tiger4

Window dressing remained window dressing! He served 81-83, was in the partisans in the 88th .... In my opinion, nothing has changed ((

87-89 had to shoot a little, in comparison with the modern level, only the barracks were painted. In the partisans 2014 When shooting, I was struck by the level of organization, everything was military ............. it's just a miracle that they didn’t fail anyone, though one nevertheless they squeezed a leg with a foot, not in my unit.

[Tiger4]

Honored! Otherwise, colleagues will not understand!

[VP]

I talked with the current demobilization - no one was starving. Someone even fattened fattening.
What army did you write about? Does that apply to your flag?

[Haettenschweiler]

Quote: VP

I talked with the current demobilization - no one was starving. Someone even fattened fattening.
What army did you write about? Does that apply to your flag?

- Kone-e-ee, they fed better than at home. "I'm an ordinary engineer" - isn't it you, hour? Painfully similar style. And as for the checkbox ... to be honest ... you are tired of asking, devoid of brain and ingenuity. The guy who created the first comment, apparently, writes from the past - from the USSR? Into which someone furtively pulled a network cable?

[Proxima]

A healthy diet gives a healthy body, and in a healthy body a healthy mind. A high spirit is the most important criterion for an invincible army. Once I came across an article about a military field kitchen during the Second World War. It was very interesting to read. It seemed to be a trifle, but a lot depended on this "trifle". It is gratifying that the Russian Ministry of Defense also pays attention to this issue.

[dmi.pris]

This is a very important "trifle" ... The main thing is that high-quality products and the required quantity are brought to this kitchen on time ..

Quote: Proxima

A healthy diet gives a healthy body, and in a healthy body a healthy mind. A high spirit is the most important criterion for an invincible army. Once I came across an article about a military field kitchen during the Second World War. It was very interesting to read. It seemed to be a trifle, but a lot depended on this "trifle". It is gratifying that the Russian Ministry of Defense also pays attention to this issue.

[Kunar]

What is it? Erotic fantasies ???

[Andrey Yuryevich]

A healthy diet gives a healthy body ...

it sounds better like this: "a healthy diet gives a healthy body" ... (whale) Happy New Year, do not be offended by the joke ...)

[vladimirvn]

People pulled at the festive table and relevant topics appeared.

[GABALIS]

Water has been carried out "pluck out your eyes" I understand the main practicality, but at least a little bit of aesthetics
Happy New Year comrades !!!

[Amurets]

Quote: vovanpain

Now it's time. War is war, and lunch is on schedule.

Yes, we criticize that it’s not so, it’s not. And you look at how soldiers are fed in NATO countries. What kind of soldiers do they have? Yes, they gave their five for one of ours. I will not comment on our army, but how they feed the army for Those wishing to find themselves abroad, but this topic is interesting. I read a lot about how the Wehrmacht and the allied armies were fed during the 2nd World War.

[novobranets]

Quote: Amurets

And you look at how soldiers are being fed in NATO countries. What kind of dry land do they have? Yes, they gave their five for one of ours.

The NATO field ration is stored for a long time, everything is packed in sealed bags, beautifully. Only one trouble, it is possible only with very great hunger, so everything is tasteless, 50% of soy and 50% of the devil knows what. About four years ago he took five different packages, went fishing, and threw half out. There is no better Russian IRP.

[Mordvin 3]

In 89 they gave German rations as humanitarian aid. Everything except the Italian stew was pretty good. Or I was hungry ? Happy New Year to all!

[kil 31]

Quote: mordvin xnumx

In 89 they gave German rations as humanitarian aid. Everything except the Italian stew was pretty good. Or I was hungry ? Happy New Year to all!

We were given ours at 93m, but some German had biscuits. Everyone tried both ours and German. Everyone liked our rusks more. Video in the topic. Well, one by one for the New Year.

[dr.star75]

NATO different happens. What kind of talk are you talking about?

[novobranets]

I don’t remember anymore. Plastic taupe bags. They vary on the menu. He took five different. Totally did not like one. Spaghetti with some kind of creepy sauce threw right after opening, without risking to try, the smell is still the same. Although the shelf life has not yet expired, and kept at home in the refrigerator, just in case.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: novobranets

, and kept it at home in the refrigerator, just in case.

refrigerator, where did you take it?

[novobranets]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

refrigerator, where did you take it?

?

[Andrey Yuryevich]

suddenly someone comes ...)))))

[novobranets]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

suddenly someone comes ...)))))

[flay]

Oh-oh-oh thanks ....... I served with "conscientious" canned food, a nightmare. Interesting
see LI .. to look at pleasure, to those who ALL HAS PASSED
THANKS, YOU ARE NOT ANGRY TO YOUTH "BUT I DO NOT WANT TO REPEAT THIS NIGHTMARE)))))

[tol100v]

Quote: novobranets

. There is no better Russian IRP.

In terms of quality and calorie content - that's for sure! And the fact that they took up the modernization of the "train" is only a big plus! Probably, the power-to-weight ratio (except for firewood and liquid fuel) is provided.

[Amurets]

Quote: novobranets

The NATO field ration is stored for a long time, everything is packed in sealed bags, beautifully. Only one trouble, it is possible only with very great hunger, so everything is tasteless, 50% of soy and 50% of the devil knows what. About four years ago he took five different packages, went fishing, and threw half out. There is no better Russian IRP.

In the spring of 1971, a group of soldiers and officers of our regiment returned from Vietnam. They brought American emergency lunches as well. Nobody brought the most valuable. They all took Bowie’s knife at the customs. to disinfect and clean. Happy New Year to you forum users who passed and did not pass training fields and training grounds, military operations and peaceful service. All of us once defended the Homeland. HAPPY NEW YEAR!

[would]

For an emergency foreign (I will not say for ours), a side ration is unfortunately normal. It can generally consist entirely of some strange white powder tiles, biscuits, candies (!!!), something similar to an oil biscuit. Minimum weight, minimum dimensions, maximum shelf life. But if you don’t particularly move, then you can stretch it for several days.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: novobranets

There is no better Russian IRP.

yBrat, call me, minus mine. for garlic, they took IRP, BUT !!! if the Man, himself and the company could not feed, penniless, the price to him.

[novobranets]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

yBrat, call me, minus mine. for garlic, they took IRP, BUT !!! if the Man, himself and the company could not feed, penniless, the price to him.

Again I did not understand. Happy New Year!

[Kunar]

That's where + so +

[dr.star75]

We are waiting for admission to the troops. Judging by the description, good weight!

[Maxom75]

Perhaps for the Spetstekhmash plant (Vsevolozhsk, Leningrad Region), this model of the kitchen is a breakthrough technology, but what I saw does not even pull a C grade. It looks poor and will be the same in operation. The quality of the plates, the method of connection (overlap), have not been used for a long time, the pipelines are not sufficiently fixed to the wall (at least every 20 cm should be) - this is a field kitchen. Equipment modularity is not provided. How will the distribution be made? Will there be plates on the kitchen floor at the entrance? The curtains on the windows are heavy (apparently rubberized) will sag, stretch, collect dust and grease, they cannot be removed and replaced or washed (either replaceable or hard). I don't see ventilation and hoods, but this is a kitchen! No timer with an audible signal (time-ready indicator). Besides tanks, there is not a word about pans, is there titanium? Storage boxes for cutlery. How do you plan to disinfect the premises? Is it possible to steam and quartz? This is a field kitchen, ventilation must be powerful and provided with filters, will there be air conditioning? If you do it according to the mind, and not on "God for you, what is useless for us."

[novobranets]

Quote: Maxom75

It looks wretched and will be the same in operation.

Seen literate person. Explanatory remarks. It also seemed to me that everything had been done somehow in a hurry, not thought out.

HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE!

[MIKHALYCH1]

I remember at daddy's "pie" Moskvich was given with a booth New! So there was a complete set of thermos spoons, forks napkins ... to feed the combine operators (there was a clear set) He wandered on it around the state farms (like an agronomist) It was a good car .. (300 km on a dirt road) dust ... etc ... He worked for wear .. First-class grain was given to the country .. (the military was even attracted) A dry climate and durum wheat was the Highest class (bread baked smell for Kilometers ..))) Dad disappeared for sowing and harvesting ... (he was not there! ))) Although he was ulcer! This is how our fathers worked ... But we lived and live modestly ...

[Amurets]

MIKHALYCH 1. I won’t quote, but from 2000 to 2008 I worked in an agricultural company. For 200 people, this is certainly cool, but the factory kitchen in KAMAZ, yes, it will pass to any field camp, is wonderful, not only in the army, but also for citizens, where a lot of people work in the fields. Well, Muscovites do not go on our field roads.

[AlNikolaich]

In my experience, now in many agricultural firms there are centralized kitchens, where lunch is served in broths in portions, spilled on thermoses. In the dining room, eat those who are close to the estate, the rest is a hot lunch right in the field!

[Amurets]

Quote: AlNikolaich

In the dining room, eat those who are close to the estate, the rest is a hot lunch right in the field!

Everywhere is different. We have the most stocks at the time of harvesting soya corn, and we have it in October-November. Even in the form of the Field Canteen, such a kitchen would not hurt both sowing and harvesting. Early grains and wheat are August and here I am I agree with you, you can get by with thermoses. But in April-May and September-November it is better to eat warm.

[wicked pinnochio]

yes a soldier should always be fed especially after training or combat

[veksha50]

"Boilers are heating up kerosene, diesel or firewood"...

A purely Russian, universal option, without any Amero-European frills and gadgets ... What is at hand - that’s what they’ll cook ...

PS In KAMAZ, cross-country ability is good too, and for 200 people there is cooking - consider that a private kitchen has been brought to the company version in the field ...

[svp67]

Quote: veksha50

- consider that the personal kitchen was brought to the company version in the field ...

Or to the reinforced tank battalion or self-propelled art. division

[wicked pinnochio]

ALL HAPPY NEW YEAR ALL TOTAL GOOD TO YOU LET ALL YOUR DESIRE come true !!!!!!

[ed24]

And yet I do not see the need for cooking in a field of fresh vegetables. Especially in winter, there will be big problems with transportation and storage. Dried vegetables and convenience foods are another matter.

[pv1005]

Quote: ed24

And yet I do not see the need for cooking in a field of fresh vegetables. Especially in winter, there will be big problems with transportation and storage. Dried vegetables and convenience foods are another matter.

Oh well. Have you ever been to the field? I would have looked at you in a week without hot food from fresh products, and only after a month or six months in the event of hostilities and there was nothing to look at.

[ed24]

He visited the field and ate cabbage soup from frozen vegetables. And then it’s not always, then the water in the valve of the boiler will freeze, then the roads are impassable ... The best option in winter is dry vegetables of good quality. No need to bother with storage and transportation is more convenient. It is only necessary to increase the capacity for water because it will freeze in cisterns.

[Amurets]

Quote: ed24

Especially in winter, there will be big problems with transportation and storage.

During my service, and before I retired, I worked in hydraulic fracturing. The products were delivered by ordinary machines, always fresh, not frost-bitten in winter and not melted in the heat, and food was delivered for hundreds and sometimes for 1,5-2 thousand km. You just need to be able to load something to deliver, keep it in place so it won’t be a problem. http://topwar.ru/88793-polevaya-kuhnya-pak-200-na-baze-kamaza.html This is a link to refrigerators . Thermoelectric so they stand in diesel locomotives.

[Blackwizardru]

It's a shame yes ....
That is why I served at 95 and not now?
there is no justice in this world

[Sedoy]

design, decoration - everything is in Russian ...
"curtains" are attached to the windows, you can see with bullets that stick out at the bottom of the window ... :)
will hang out and get in the way ...
it was impossible to make a tinted "latch" like in planes ...

and the "corners" can be seen with nails nailed ...

[pv1005]

Quote: Sedoy

design, decoration - everything is in Russian ...
"curtains" are attached to the windows, you can see with bullets that stick out at the bottom of the window ... :)
will hang out and get in the way ...
it was impossible to make a tinted "latch" like in planes ...

and the "corners" can be seen with nails nailed ...

Your knowledge about military equipment and especially about blackout is "deepest", ie. none.

[Maxom75]

and do you think these stretched and dangling curtains can create a blackout? And the heat from this object will be released more than from the tank, certainly KAZ will not be put on it. And with regards to quality, really blinded .ovno.

[svp67]

Quote: Maxom75

and do you think these stretched and dangling curtains can create a blackout?

They will not only be, but also create, since this system has already been tested for years

Quote: Maxom75

And the heat from this object will be released more than from the tank, certainly KAZ will not be put on it.

Any technique "phonit", but there are many ways to reduce the heat background and protect the "object"

[pv1005]

It is difficult for white-ticket experts to prove anything. Do not worry.

[Amurets]

Quote: pv1005

It is difficult for white-ticket experts to prove anything. Do not worry.

I fully support it. Until a person tries to warm a can of stew or a piece of bread on his belly, drink water passed through a bandage at best, and in the worst, through hell, he knows that since the disinfecting tablets have run out or forgot, he will not understand the benefits of a field kitchen.

[Maxom75]

Well, how can you reduce the heat from the field kitchen?))) There is only one way to keep away from the front line. and it’s time for archaism to change these curtains to sliding ones. You obviously didn’t have a relationship with the kitchen and you don’t know what sanitation means and how important hygiene is in the kitchen, so that later the whole unit doesn’t squat. And this kind of product is guaranteed.

[svp67]

Quote: Maxom75

And this kind of product is guaranteed.

A product of this kind has been supplying units of motorized riflemen and tankers with hot food for more than a dozen years, and the fact that it was put on a different base chassis did not change its qualities.

Quote: Maxom75

Well, how do you reduce the heat from the field kitchen?)))

Have you ever heard of thermal screens? About heat traps? About engineering equipment positions? If you had to, then you would not ask such questions

[Igor F.]

Uh-uh, so the field kitchen is useful not only in the army .. In the tundra, for example, it is useful for gas workers or reindeer herders, or for logging .. Or to feed field-breeders with machine-harvester combine hot dinners .. As you can see, the application can be and in peaceful conditions!

[svp67]

Quote: Sedoy

design, decoration - everything is in Russian ...

Yes, in Russian - simple and reliable. You can do it better and more technologically - the first I shake your hard hand.

[Maxom75]

Many will gladly do it. It’s just that the best and most reliable should go to the army, then there will be demand from other armies of the world, and there will be a series and a reduction in prices. In addition to armies, shift workers, collective farmers, builders, road workers, the Ministry of Emergencies and others will use it. But the product must meet several parameters: Ergonomics (take into account the movement of the product during processing in the kitchen: from loading products and semi-finished products, to the delivery of prepared food, as well as waste disposal); functionality (if possible the most automated process, the availability of equipment and the ability to quickly deploy additional modules); HYGIENICITY - this booth should be built in such a way that the fat is removed into the hood during cooking, the waste products are easily disposed of and not in contact with the products (you can tilt the drawers into which the waste from the cutting tables can be swept), the materials from which this kung is made and the equipment must be internal and it’s easy to withstand high temperature heat treatment (at least steam; accounting system - how much did, how much time was spent, energy, amount of waste, etc.) Maintainability - well, everything is clear in my opinion. I just saw a refrigerator from the right, then a sink, then a boiler and the second boiler, that is, if we proceed from the logic of the designer, the cook first takes out the products, then washes, then cooks, then cuts up. Apparently you are used to borscht consisting of unpeeled potatoes, un chopped cabbage (whole fork)? There is no harvesting table in place! And if there are two cooks and they cook at the same time, there is not enough space.The cook in the kitchen should move in a circle, otherwise the mixing of cooking zones and infection tion!

[svp67]

Quote: Maxom75

I just saw the refrigerator on the right,

It was interesting to see its brand ... You just have never once seen the operation of these kitchens in practice and are ready to draw far-reaching conclusions without really knowing the whole technology of the food preparation process in the field.

[Maxom75]

I saw it and even worked on it, that's why I say it, so minus it to the limit. I don’t care, it’s a pity that they make a lot of money, and then they get the semi-finished product.

[gg.na]

Everything should be effective, simple, reliable and functional! A soldier defender of the fatherland should be fed because a hungry soldier is no longer a full-fledged warrior! I think that the PAK-200 is excellent kitchen option for units of motorized rifles and tank troops!

[Sergey-72]

Quote: ed24

And yet I do not see the need for cooking in a field of fresh vegetables. Especially in winter, there will be big problems with transportation and storage. Dried vegetables and convenience foods are another matter.

You can haul RP for a week, but if for months?, You can’t stretch it on some semi-finished products (in winter). Many fighters will begin to look more edible in the nearby settlements and at the same time adventures on the fifth point.

[serezhasoldatow]

We worked on this, only the base was on Zil -131. A good thing, and the improvement is immediately visible for the better. Only before they were made at the factory of the Ministry of Defense of the USSR, now it is unknown.

[Egor69]

Here you are gourmets)) Already takes a laugh.))) You want to, eat everything, at least imported dry tea, at least your own))) The main thing is the energy from food, and not its nutritional qualities))).

[Drshan]

In the second half of the 80s he served in the Far East. It was possible to eat food in the canteen only with HUGE hunger. The energy value was within the normal range (mainly due to the kombihir - who knows, I don’t explain what this muck is). Up to 50% went to "food waste", i.e. pigs for feed. The incidence among soldiers reached 105% (if anyone does not understand what it is, ask questions in a personal). For 4 years of war with the chief of food (the bastard quit, they did not have time to prosecute), it was possible (together with the commander) to train the food service not to serve themselves, but to feed the soldiers. The commander of the service platoon then howled: "What to feed the pigs with?" And the soldiers in the dining room ate everything to the end. Not from hunger, it was delicious. The incidence dropped to 15-20%. Gourmets ?!

[sharp-lad]

At the turn of the 80-90s. served in the most "terrible" troops - the construction battalion, the food was not just bad, but very tasty. I especially remember the salty herring fried to a crunch! But with all this, I gained six kilograms! In general, the food was not tasty and not always edible, but abundant enough. In my appeal, the rates for the release of butter, eggs and sugar were increased.

[would]

Eat everything (or rather almost everything), but the question is in the consequences of this. The food should fully saturate the fighter, and its complete consumption is "difficult" by the disgusting taste. And after that, the fighter should not suffer with his stomach, or even more so start to get hurt. All jokes, but in the field, diarrhea without the same activated carbon is a potentially life-threatening thing and definitely incapacitates at least one soldier, and if everything is worse, then several more.

[ALEA IACTA EST]

A hungry soldier will not beat many enemies ...

[Maxom75]

this is if only he doesn’t see the kitchen behind the enemies, then he can beat a lot))))

[sharp-lad]

I will not envy anyone who is caught between a hungry growing organism and hot, tasty-smelling food!

[31rus]

Dear, I don’t know, I went to my son’s training room, went to the soldiers’ canteen, was surprised, in our time they didn’t see anything like this in officers, fruits, sausages, meat (different, to choose from), condensed milk, milk, and not everyone eats like that , about dry share NATO, one of the very distant cousins, serves in special events in one of the northern countries, handed over their rations, everything is fine there, with the exception of meat, everything else, albeit not very tasty, but very nutritious, has three kinds of nuts, everything is functional and simple, according to my number 5, I didn’t exactly forget, my son got 7 kg more about a soldier’s lunch! The only thing I didn’t like was buying a uniform and berets, as it’s not right

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: Asadullah

. If you have to go without food all day, I’ll refuel with barley steamed in milk. A day without lunch, corn slice.

classics of the genre...

[lopvlad]

Quote: ed24

Dried vegetables and convenience foods are another matter.

shit is all. On this garbage for more than two days and life is not sweet.

[Pirogov]

As an army cook, I can say: just the necessary kitchen, and generally the 21st century in the yard, but we have everything old ...

[infantryman2020]

200 people by modern standards is a company tactical group.
KAMAZ base is redundant for the company link logistics support module. A more compact base is needed here. Leading foreign armies usually have a 4x4 base of the Unimog or Hammer class.
In addition, for the lower tactical link KAMAZ, in general, the machine is not optimal - it is not reliable enough and strong (torn when towing a bumper is a classic).

[sontinianin]

The French ambassador at one of the banquets asked Alexander 3:
- Your Majesty, is it true that you have buckwheat in Russia!?
-Yes, why !?
-And in France we only give this muck to cattle!
Alexander 3, scratching his head, asks the ambassador:
- Monsieur, is it true that you have frogs in France !?
-Yes, why !?
-Yes so ... In Russia, this muck, even cattle do not eat ...
Happy New Year to everybody !!!

[Teamon]

Laughed . In fact, many foreign citizens do not consider buckwheat for food ..

[sharp-lad]

They take this tasty and healthy product for pillow filler!

[glagol58]

As a former military cook, I envy those who cook in such a kitchen!

[seregatara1969]

in the field and in the pot you’ll have to make a brew! described the kitchens for the entire line of troops from platoon to regiment

[Koshak]

Here's another from the classics:

A. Twardowski

Vasily Terkin. At rest

- Effective, of course,
The old man was the same
What came up with the soup to cook
On wheels straight.
Soup - First. Secondly,
Porridge is normally solid.
No old man he was old man
Sensitive - that's for sure.

Listen, throw another one
Such a spoon
I'm the second brother war
I’m fighting for a century.
Rate, add a bit.

The cook squinted:
"Wow eater -
This guy is new. "
He puts an extra spoon,
He speaks indignantly:
- You would, you know, in the fleet
With your appetite.

That: - Thanks. I'm just
I have not been in the fleet.
I'd rather like you
Cook in the infantry. -
And, sitting under a pine tree,
He eats porridge, stooping.

"Own?" - fighters among themselves, -
"Own!" - exchanged glances.

[Wolka]

Well, by the way, I like to have fun, especially delicious to eat

[An64]

Effective, of course,
The old man was the same
What came up with the soup to cook
On wheels straight.

Anton Fedorovich Turchanovich - officer of the Russian army, inventor of the first Russian field kitchen on wheels.
Coming from impoverished nobles. He began military service as an ordinary. He participated in the Russian-Turkish war. For the courage shown near Plevna, he was awarded the St. George Cross and promoted to non-commissioned officer, and then ensign. After graduating from a military school, he became a second lieutenant. At the moment when he finally got a hold of the idea of ​​wheeled army food, he served as a lieutenant colonel.

[Mercenary]

No, well, PAK - this is understandable, but was there really no other number? Well there is 15 \ 200 type 15 year of publication. 200 for the kitchen will not work - assassinations are bad ...

[fleet]

Wow! Has the kitchen arrived, prepared a meal for one day, and what’s next, went again for groceries? The field kitchen should be constantly with personnel, hitched for something and on the road. Buffets are good in peaceful conditions, in war the main food of combat units is hot food. This Pak window dressing, in combat only a burden.

[kirpich]

Quote: Truth

If you just dream ...
How many of their tanks, for such a wheelbarrow, will the hungry "dill" give if the guys from Novorossiya offer an exchange deal?

Nothing to offer

[kirpich]

Quote: fleet

Wow! Has the kitchen arrived, prepared a meal for one day, and what’s next, went again for groceries? The field kitchen should be constantly with personnel, hitched for something and on the road. Buffets are good in peaceful conditions, in war the main food of combat units is hot food. This Pak window dressing, in combat only a burden.

Dear Navy You probably won’t believe it, but there is a commissary service in the troops (as well as in the Navy), which provides just such cuisines with all kinds of ingredients, such as cereals, vegetables, fruits, spices, and other goodies. The fact that a mobile complex capable of feeding a company was shown here didn’t show you anything.

Z.Y. Well, Russian, spelling, please observe.

[Evil 55]

The only plus is the ability to cook in any weather .. Yes, and the cook will catch a cold less .. Such a kitchen is better than none at all ..

[Signaller]

Wonderful thing, I'll tell you. I remember the partisans like that. In the morning, a gechka without water. At lunch, buckwheat with a pond and some stew. At dinner, water without stew, but again with gecko. In the third week we are so sick of darkness. We started to diversify. This is the main thing, the diversity of nutrition. And then millet, millet. millet. and lose weight for long. Greetings sowing the installation. From a hungry fighter, it's no good. And here everything is in order.

[Balagan]

Good stuff. And how much technical water is there, or are they also drinking food?
We often go out to nature with the team in the summer. I bought a KP-130, but for us it’s overkill, a two-day compote from one tank, the rest is for hot water in the shower, more often the kirieshki were fried in it))) And now, when the team was small, I put it on jokes.

[tinibar]

Quote: Kunar

A dry drink is better .... I think so ....

I had to live in Sukhpai for three days in the army. Awful! ...

[Lieutenant colonel]

And I for 2 years, intermittently, ate them. And nothing - alive and well.
Awful - when there is no dry share. One day I had to eat grass with ketchup (of course I had ketchup from a dry share) - not always, of course, with interruptions in the mountains . Because the task was extended for two days. And my soldiers ate - no one died, and there wasn’t much horror. There was a need to complete a combat mission. Something like this