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NATO ships passed the Strait of Hormuz at the time of the Iranian navy's rocket firing

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On the eve it became known that the Iranian military conducted missile firing in the Strait of Hormuz. TV channel NBC reported that the shooting was started at the moment when the American aircraft carrier Harry Truman passed through the strait. According to the US military, Iranian missile boats were fired at a distance of approximately 1,4 km from the aircraft carrier.


NATO ships passed the Strait of Hormuz at the time of the Iranian navy's rocket firing


It is reported that with the aircraft carrier "Harry Truman" in the Persian Gulf included the American destroyer "Buckley" and the French frigate. Washington adds that American ships followed the Persian Gulf to "join the fight against ISIS," and followed "only in an internationally recognized corridor."

Representatives of the Iranian naval forces contacted the crews of NATO ships and warned that the ships were passing the Strait of Hormuz at the time of the Iranian Navy exercises. Command ships of the United States and France were warned about the inadmissibility of deviations from the international shipping corridor.

The United States has already stated that they regard such actions of Iran as "unreasonably provocative and unsafe." If we consider that the northern part of the Strait of Hormuz is the territorial waters of Iran, and the American ships followed from the sea border line at a distance of several hundred meters, the question arises whether, in this case, the NATO side’s provocative actions with ISIS is trying to solve completely different tasks in the region ...
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  1. avvg
    avvg 30 December 2015 06: 40
    21
    In my opinion, the NATO ships simply organized a provocation against Iran, at the time of the Iranian Navy exercises.
    1. Blondy
      Blondy 30 December 2015 07: 44
      +3
      Some kind of muddy presentation. Everyone will be judged by whether there was an early warning about the exercises: if there were provocateurs in NATE, but if not, then there is already other material for discussion.
      1. Jack-b
        Jack-b 30 December 2015 08: 05
        +7
        If you look at the configuration of the strait, then there is in the narrowest place 100 km. By 20 on each side are territorial waters. Total to international waters 60km. Why at the same time sail hundreds of meters from territorial waters is a question. Moreover, the optimal trajectory in this place passes just from the other side (a strait of curved shape). But on the other hand, why did Iran have to conduct firing in the strait? Why not in the Persian Gulf or the Arabian Sea? Although in their waters they have every right. So there is clearly a greater provocation of the Americans than the Iranians.
        Threat. By the way, if there was no warning in advance, then the option is not ruled out that the Iranians, seeing the Americans approaching, decided to scare them and announced exercises. Well, do not lean on an aircraft carrier like ours in the Black Sea.
        1. Oleg NSK
          Oleg NSK 30 December 2015 08: 17
          +7
          .... and not one defective rocket? ... eh
          1. Constructor1
            Constructor1 30 December 2015 09: 21
            -3
            How many American sailors will then decide to resign?
            Or do they resign only if the Russians scare them? laughing
        2. Zeppelin ml.
          Zeppelin ml. 30 December 2015 08: 47
          +2
          Quote: Jack-B
          then there in the narrowest place 100 km.

          54.
          Quote: Jack-B
          Total for international waters 60km.

          no. Two traffic channels of 2.5 km each with a buffer of 5 km.
          Quote: Jack-B
          then it is possible that the Iranians, seeing the Americans approaching, decided to scare them and announced the exercises.

          come on. Do you seriously think that the Persians can scare the Yankees? Bullshit is everything: the Persians know that there is nothing left without an answer - the operation Mantis still remember
          Three years ago the Mejlis "frightened" with the prospect of blocking the strait. Well?
          1. Temples
            Temples 30 December 2015 09: 07
            0
            Iran at home, in contrast to the sailing "fighters against ISIS".
            Well done Persians.
            The mouths and languages ​​of NATO representatives are especially developed:
            - will whip and rub off.
            1. Zeppelin ml.
              Zeppelin ml. 30 December 2015 10: 27
              0
              Quote: Temples
              Well done Persians.

              what are they "well done"? Well, they fired rockets in the direction opposite to the AUG. Well, they showed the middle finger to the Americans from their territorial waters. Well, maybe some sailor threw a prayer mat at Truman. AUG did not even lower the move, calmly entered the Puddle and went about her business. What do you think the Persians demonstrated? The power of your fleet?
              1. Temples
                Temples 30 December 2015 10: 56
                +1
                Yes, because they scored a bolt on both NATO and the states.
                They received sanctions in response, but did not change their position.
                The fact that they call themselves the Islamic Republic.
                Thus they speak of their faith and culture.

                They do not lick the ass of the "civilized" world and do not declare themselves a secular state.

                It is now in Russia that everyone rushed to church, but they are embarrassed to be Orthodox. What if the "civilized" will not accept it!

                And in this case, well done Persians that do as they see fit.
                As a result, they will be reckoned with.

                Are there many independent states in the world that have not caved in to "European values"?
                Iranians are one of the few nations that lives on the traditions and culture of their ancestors.


                AUG didn’t even slow down, calmly entered Puddle and goes about their business.

                In neutral waters, they can do anything. Reduce the course, add. Cut into checkers, if they can.
                Show you your strength and power!
                So that you serve them and praise them.
                What are you doing.
                1. Zeppelin ml.
                  Zeppelin ml. 30 December 2015 11: 15
                  -1
                  Quote: Temples
                  Yes, because they scored a bolt on both NATO and the states.

                  Yes, NATO and the States drum Iranian hammered bolt.
                  Quote: Temples
                  It is now in Russia that everyone rushed to church, but they are embarrassed to be Orthodox. What if the "civilized" will not accept it!

                  come on. Firstly, not all. Secondly, those who still stick out in front of the pulpit with a candle do not hesitate to call themselves Orthodox.
                  Quote: Temples
                  and do not declare themselves a secular state.

                  Yes Yes. Just found a cute compromise, which is called Islamic Republic of)
                2. Temples
                  Temples 30 December 2015 11: 16
                  0
                  Well, maybe some sailor threw a prayer rug in Truman.


                  come on. Firstly, not all. Secondly, those who still stick out in front of the pulpit with a candle do not hesitate to call themselves Orthodox.

                  It is for such an attitude towards Vera that others do not consider you to be people.
                  1. Zeppelin ml.
                    Zeppelin ml. 30 December 2015 11: 19
                    0
                    Quote: Temples
                    It is for such an attitude towards Vera that others do not consider you to be people.

                    who is "you", can you find out?
                    1. Temples
                      Temples 30 December 2015 11: 20
                      0
                      Who will forbid?
                      Find out.
                3. Zeppelin ml.
                  Zeppelin ml. 30 December 2015 11: 25
                  -1
                  Quote: Temples
                  Show you your strength and power!
                  So that you serve them and praise them.

                  OK, show me a Russian nuclear-powered aircraft carrier with a 90-unit air wing - I will certainly admire. And I, by the way, do not "serve", and do not "praise" - they do not need this.
          2. Jack-b
            Jack-b 30 December 2015 11: 19
            0
            Quote: Zeppelin ml.
            Bullshit is everything: the Persians know that there is nothing left without an answer - the operation Mantis still remember
            Three years ago the Mejlis "frightened" with the prospect of blocking the strait. Well?

            Closing the strait is an aggression on the part of Iran, and if they hit an aircraft carrier that has violated the border, it is legitimate border protection. Don't confuse your butt with your finger. In the first case, they will stand up against everyone; in the second, they will at least receive political support from the Russian Federation and China. This is at least. As a maximum, they can quickly get some "onyx" in addition to the S-300. And the Yankees will poop at the mere thought that it is necessary to sail past Iran. The Yankees are not as hard to scare as you think.
            1. Zeppelin ml.
              Zeppelin ml. 30 December 2015 11: 36
              -2
              Quote: Jack-B
              and if they enter the carrier who violated the border, this is a legitimate border guard.

              "if..." laughing Did someone cross the border? No? Then what are these tolerances for? In my commentary I spoke about the facts that took place - the operation of the Mantis of 1988 and the threat of the Iranian Majlis to block the Strait in 2012. You theorize about some kind of aircraft carrier in the waters of Iran, some onyxes (by the way, then - yachts). So that -
              Quote: Jack-B
              Do not confuse the ass with your finger.
              1. Jack-b
                Jack-b 1 January 2016 16: 17
                0
                Quote: Zeppelin ml.
                You theorize about some kind of aircraft carrier in the waters of Iran, some onyxes (by the way, then - yachts).

                Politics is the art of the possible (c) Otto Bismarck
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          4. tajik-airya
            tajik-airya 31 December 2015 05: 30
            0
            and if not Iranians then who? and compare the "operation mantis" carried out while Iran because of the revolution and the 8-year war with Iraq was exhausted and weakened with today's Iran to say the least stupidity. If Iran wants to, cover up and no one will fart in return.
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  2. Magic archer
    Magic archer 30 December 2015 06: 41
    13
    Intelligence and provocation. This is the only way to describe the actions of the Americans. For anyone, they were well aware that the Iranians were conducting exercises there. I was most struck by the distance of 1,4 km between the ships! It was simply minimal! Well, the actions of the Americans did not surprise ... How always brazenly
    1. Zeppelin ml.
      Zeppelin ml. 30 December 2015 09: 38
      0
      Quote: Magic Archer
      As always brazenly

      what exactly is "impudent"? Did they violate the rules of navigation? Intruded into territorial waters? While we are three here about "provocations", Truman is already in the Gulf, launching hornets.
      1. evge-malyshev
        evge-malyshev 30 December 2015 10: 54
        0
        Quote: Zeppelin ml.
        Truman is already in the Gulf, the Hornets are launching.


        Something from hornets the result is "like a goat of milk."
        1. Zeppelin ml.
          Zeppelin ml. 30 December 2015 11: 17
          0
          Quote: evge-malyshev
          Quote: Zeppelin ml.
          Truman is already in the Gulf, the Hornets are launching.


          Something from hornets the result is "like a goat of milk."

          but do not care) as Baron de Coubertin used to say - "the main thing is not a triumph, but participation")
      2. evge-malyshev
        evge-malyshev 30 December 2015 10: 54
        0
        Quote: Zeppelin ml.
        Truman is already in the Gulf, the Hornets are launching.


        Something from hornets the result is "like a goat of milk."
  3. evgeny1979
    evgeny1979 30 December 2015 06: 43
    +7
    It’s a pity that not a single rocket went astray ...
    1. Sura
      Sura 30 December 2015 07: 16
      +1
      So it’s good, they have clearly shown that if something happens, then the missile will not go astray, do not hope.
  4. izya top
    izya top 30 December 2015 06: 45
    10
    The US has already stated that they regard such actions by Iran as "groundlessly provocative and unsafe"
    and with the Yankees, any actions committed not by them are considered unreasonable provocation request
  5. From Samara
    From Samara 30 December 2015 06: 49
    -6
    Harry Truman is not a stool! Be careful ...
    1. oblako
      oblako 30 December 2015 06: 55
      +5
      Who needs more caution? Who is at greater risk? These are the coastal waters of Iran, the Americans are not at home here ... if anything, recall is not a sin.
      1. From Samara
        From Samara 30 December 2015 07: 02
        -8
        Iran needs to be more careful first of all. Yanks are not sewn with bast either ...
      2. igorka357
        igorka357 30 December 2015 07: 08
        -3
        Don’t tell me, I respect Iran for its independent policy, but you must face the truth ... it’s not difficult to break Iran! Americans were not at home in Iraq and Afghanistan and Libya, but look what you’ve done, I’m silent about Yugoslavia, there they were almost at our place and this did not stop them !!!
        1. vlad.svargin
          vlad.svargin 30 December 2015 08: 57
          0
          igorka357 (8)
          Don’t tell me, I respect Iran for its independent policy, but we must face the truth .. breaking Iran will not be difficult for amers!

          These are not the times for amers, they still do not know how to leave Afghanistan without losing face ...
        2. tajik-airya
          tajik-airya 31 December 2015 05: 39
          0
          if such a state as Iran amer "does not make up break" then I'm afraid Russia or China will roll like a soccer ball.
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      3. Zeppelin ml.
        Zeppelin ml. 30 December 2015 08: 51
        -3
        Quote: oblako
        This is the coastal waters of Iran

        It seems to me that not only Iran.
    2. SOF
      SOF 30 December 2015 07: 19
      10
      Harry Truman is a big clumsy bucket with airplanes, one view of which should frighten those in the liver who have a small intestine to sink to the bottom.
      Iran, however, is a very unpredictable player, in terms of the use of force against an adversary, regardless of his nationality.
      1. From Samara
        From Samara 30 December 2015 07: 26
        +1
        Something no one dared to drown him yet ...
        1. SOF
          SOF 30 December 2015 08: 03
          +3
          And where is the risk?
          The hegemon pushed this fool into the region in order to show to the negligent who is the boss in the house.
          The negligent, in turn, showed that they had not been using diapers for a long time, and moreover, they had boxing gloves, and ... in case of sudden careless actions of the hegemon, they would not remain in debt.
          ... and it seems to me that in this situation, the hegemon will think three times to shoot down "accidentally" passenger Boeings or not.
        2. Zeppelin ml.
          Zeppelin ml. 30 December 2015 09: 42
          0
          Quote: From Samara
          Something no one dared to drown him yet ...

          and who needs Chernobyl at the bottom of the Gulf? laughing
          1. mvg
            mvg 30 December 2015 13: 33
            +1
            I don't even know how the Persians can organize this Chernobyl! It seems to me that the best anti-ship missiles they have are the North Korean variants of the X-35 "Uranus"
        3. pvv113
          pvv113 30 December 2015 09: 45
          +1
          It’s just that Americans don’t appear where they can sink hi
          1. Zeppelin ml.
            Zeppelin ml. 30 December 2015 10: 55
            -1
            Quote: pvv113
            It’s just that Americans don’t appear where they can sink hi

            where exactly? And who would dare to sink an American aircraft carrier? Comrade Eun?
      2. Zeppelin ml.
        Zeppelin ml. 30 December 2015 09: 16
        0
        Quote: SOF
        Harry Truman is a big clumsy bucket with airplanes, one view of which should frighten those in the liver who have a small intestine to sink to the bottom.

        and what, Persians, guys with a large intestine? laughing Seven years ago, the IRGC on boats also circled around the Americans and even blurted out on the radio like "we will shoot like a bum ..." True, they did not shoot, preferring to be quick.
        1. SOF
          SOF 30 December 2015 09: 31
          +1
          think with stamps ...
          1. Persians, seven years ago, in a meat grinder, similar to the one that is now in Syria, it would hardly have climbed. And now they somehow did not give a damn about the hegemon, with all its attempts Assad landed.
          2. Seven years ago, the supply of S-300 to Iran came under sanctions. And now?
          3.I remember that seven years ago, they could say the same thing about our gut.
          1. Zeppelin ml.
            Zeppelin ml. 30 December 2015 09: 49
            +1
            Quote: SOF
            3. I will remember that seven years ago, they could say the same thing about our gut.

            yes, in seven years our gut has become thicker, no doubt, but we are not going to fight with America. Well, excluding, of course, some of the local commentators. And Iran, and even more so knead with the Americans will not dare.
            1. cap
              cap 30 December 2015 11: 38
              +1
              Quote: Zeppelin ml.
              Quote: SOF
              3. I will remember that seven years ago, they could say the same thing about our gut.

              yes, in seven years our gut has become thicker, no doubt, but we are not going to fight with America. Well, excluding, of course, some of the local commentators. And Iran, and even more so knead with the Americans will not dare.

              "In seven years our gut has become thicker, no doubt, but we are not going to fight America. Well, except, of course, some of the local commentators."
              As it does not fit with the new military doctrine of Russia, your statement.
              It turns out that our strategic missiles will be aimed after the presentation by the US ambassador of a note about the start of a nuclear war?
              Remember when the German ambassador handed it in the 41st?
              You have no idea what you are talking about, declaring our "guts".
              With all the rosy talk about the world of politicians, "the finger on the trigger and the barrel to the temple" does not give anyone the right to talk to Putin louder than he hears.
              And does something in the picture resemble "gut" rather the other way around? laughing
              1. Zeppelin ml.
                Zeppelin ml. 30 December 2015 12: 14
                0
                Quote: cap
                With all the rosy talk about the world of politicians, "the finger on the trigger and the barrel to the temple" does not give anyone the right to talk to Putin louder than he hears.

                And with Nikita Sergeich or Leonid Ilyich, someone allowed himself to raise his tone?
                Quote: cap
                And does something in the picture resemble a "gut"

                by no means) Poplar is handsome, it is not even discussed.
                Quote: cap
                As it does not fit with the new military doctrine of Russia, your statement.

                yes everything fits. The doctrine is primarily defensive. The theoretical tolerance for nuclear war has existed since the tests at Alamogordo. Since then, humanity has been balancing on the edge. Using the phraseology of WWII - "strange war")
            2. SOF
              SOF 30 December 2015 12: 15
              +1
              not fit.
              Iran is already mixed with the USA, right there in Syria. While in the cold. And I didn’t hear something that the Western coalition would manage to miss on IS and get into the IRGC. Everyone already missed (the Syrians, the Iraqis ...) but not the Iranians.
              The age of provocations has come ... and therefore no one is talking about war.

              Who could say seven years ago that the Turks would dare shoot down the Air Force of Russia? NONE.
              1. Zeppelin ml.
                Zeppelin ml. 30 December 2015 12: 48
                0
                Quote: SOF
                And I didn’t hear something that the Western coalition would manage to miss on IS and get into the IRGC.

                and the situation with the "guards" in Syria is generally strange - either they exist or they are not, that is, but they provide "unarmed support."
                Quote: SOF
                Iran is already mixed with the USA, right there in Syria.

                like this?
                Quote: SOF
                Who could say seven years ago that the Turks would dare shoot down the Air Force of Russia? NONE.
                And who could say that in violation of the protocol, the bombers will fly without an escort of fighters?)
                if you could imagine that our videoconferencing would be fight in the Middle East, it is very possible to admit the likelihood of an incident similar to the recent one.
                1. SOF
                  SOF 30 December 2015 16: 19
                  +1
                  "And who could say that in violation of protocol, bombers will fly without escort of fighters?)
                  if it was possible to imagine that our aerospace forces would fight in the Middle East, then it is very possible to admit the likelihood of an incident like the recent one. "

                  ----What did you mean???
                  Are you trying to assert: "the earth is round", to object: "and the water is wet"?
                  I tell you about the world situation and reformatting of the thinking of some previously predicted formations, and you tell me about the usual Russian race ***.
                  An incident could have been assumed (just an incident), but the cynicism and arrogance with which this was done, turning the concept of "incident" into a "precedent", does not fit in my head.

                  Now about the batches. How many ghoul groups do Americans call the opposition there? ... and to whom do they drop chests with swag on parachutes? So the Iranians are written out to everyone the same, but they have never missed them.
                  1. Zeppelin ml.
                    Zeppelin ml. 30 December 2015 18: 19
                    0
                    Quote: SOF
                    reformatting the thinking of some previously predicted formations

                    The phrase, of course, is archi-interesting, but absolutely empty.
                    Quote: SOF
                    and you tell me about the usual Russian race *** rast.

                    "Race" is when road workers put asphalt on the mud. And the fact that the Turks were underestimated is a mistake, besides it is gross, judging by the high price.
                    Quote: SOF
                    So the Iranians are written out to everyone the same, but they have never missed them.

                    Listening to you, one might think that there are a very significant number of "Iranians" in Syria. In fact, I think this is far from the case. It was about one and a half to two thousand people, it seems that, you see, not so many. Given that the main occupation of the IRGC and the Iranian military was training the Shiite militia and others, it can be assumed that
                    Quote: SOF
                    write out
                    they are not that active and a lot. Besides, who said that there were no Persians among the victims of the "blunders"? Fresh graves on Behesht-Zahra near Tehran appear from time to time.
                    1. SOF
                      SOF 31 December 2015 07: 55
                      +1
                      Happy New Year!
                      our pick lasted - it's time to tie.
                      I will not quote.
                      1 and 2. Phrase - phrase. And asphalt cannot be laid on the dirt. You understood the meaning, but I am stating a fact: you are filapetov that the Earth is round, because the water is wet ...
                      3 and 4. The times when thousands fought (square on square) have sunk into oblivion with the invention of the machine gun. It’s a long-known fact (I don’t understand why it’s a secret for you) that divisions are not always needed to solve a large list of military tasks by trained specialists.
                      Regarding only the training of Shiite police officers and mysteriously appearing graves, these two statements are very strange, since in all the media, and in VO, in fact, all ears buzzed about the massive losses in the personnel of the IRGC. There are only about a dozen top officers.
                      It’s not clear what this can be said about, is it?
                      Not combat losses at the shooting ranges? Accidentally dropped grenades cover the chest? Or drunk, in the insole, under the tanks lying around on landfills?
                      Graves fresh? Of course it’s strange ...
                      Ahhh. I understood. This coalition smears on the IS and crumbles the IRGC at the training grounds during the training of Shiites.
                      You confused me :)
                      Rounding off. We are far from the topic, so I’ll return: in my opinion (I emphasize), Iran has long grown out of short pants - this time, the States are already the third year already, they are two, these are two, the world’s situation has changed dramatically - this is three and the incident with the American military property in the Strait of Hormuz, by analogy with the SU-24, is very likely - these are four. Your opinion is your opinion. I do not count on its correction.
                      Sincerely, and once again with the upcoming NG !!!
    3. vlad.svargin
      vlad.svargin 30 December 2015 08: 51
      -2
      From Samara
      Harry Truman is not a stool! Be careful ...

      USA is not Upper Volta, so what ...! They get insolent when they are allowed to, and even more so now there is a good "hammer" on this "stool" ... negative
      1. Zeppelin ml.
        Zeppelin ml. 30 December 2015 09: 17
        -1
        Quote: vlad.svargin
        and even more so now this "stool" has a good "hammer" ...

        oh well, is there really?) As if the Persians did not beat off their finger with a "hammer".
  6. olhon
    olhon 30 December 2015 06: 53
    +1
    Quote: iza top
    The US has already stated that they regard such actions by Iran as "groundlessly provocative and unsafe"
    and with the Yankees, any actions committed not by them are considered unreasonable provocation request

    And of course they cause deep concern)))
    1. izya top
      izya top 30 December 2015 07: 00
      +3
      Quote: olhon
      And of course they cause deep concern)))

      very deep ... about waist repeat
  7. Great-grandfather of Zeus
    Great-grandfather of Zeus 30 December 2015 07: 38
    -1
    In total, there are fourteen hectometers of error to the goal! And there would be an aircraft carrier-henry corpse!
  8. ovod84
    ovod84 30 December 2015 07: 41
    +1
    Iran should strengthen its air defense and buy bastions from us, and then it will be good.
  9. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 30 December 2015 07: 50
    +3
    The command of the ships of the United States and France was warned about the inadmissibility of deviations from the international shipping corridor.

    For some reason, M. Zadornov immediately came to mind. When the commander of an American aircraft carrier ordered the lighthouse to "get out of the way". Americans feel they are masters everywhere, even in the territorial waters of a foreign country.
  10. Taygerus
    Taygerus 30 December 2015 08: 05
    +1
    And if Iran put up the bastions, then the Omerians generally just take care to the fullest laughing
  11. vkfriendly
    vkfriendly 30 December 2015 08: 07
    +1
    NOTICE slag is not about anything. From scratch doing a tragedy, so that the people would be pissed off who is the provocateur? Some went through the corridor without problems, others shot and WHAT is this?
    1. Bigi
      Bigi 30 December 2015 08: 29
      +2
      Probably for you a "note about what" it is when the mushroom cloud ...
  12. ALEA IACTA EST
    ALEA IACTA EST 30 December 2015 08: 12
    -3
    Shit, got in the face and now whine ... Everything is as always.
    1. Zeppelin ml.
      Zeppelin ml. 30 December 2015 10: 19
      0
      Quote: ALEA IACTA EST
      Shit, got in the face and now whine ... Everything is as always

      is it all about whom?
  13. Kuvabatake
    Kuvabatake 30 December 2015 08: 18
    0
    As far as I am aware, planned exercises are reported almost a year in advance ...
  14. igorra
    igorra 30 December 2015 08: 18
    -1
    The American Sher Khan and the French Tobacco, lacked only banderlogs with their saiga hetman.
  15. MT266
    MT266 30 December 2015 08: 32
    0
    it was necessary that the missile was mistaken !!!
  16. jovanni
    jovanni 30 December 2015 09: 03
    0
    Yes, they themselves are provocateurs! Rod with their aircraft carriers forever where they were not called at all ...
    1. Zeppelin ml.
      Zeppelin ml. 30 December 2015 09: 25
      0
      Quote: Jovanni
      Yes, they themselves are provocateurs! Rod with their aircraft carriers forever where they were not called at all ...

      that is yes. But if in the Arabian Gulf there were no Americans as a gendarme, then the Persians would have blocked the strait, and this, for a minute, is a third of all the world's offshore oil traffic. The guys in the burnus would be very sad) The crisis with massacre would still have to be resolved by the Americans. And their methods are already known.
  17. Old26
    Old26 30 December 2015 09: 34
    0
    Quote: vkfriendly
    NOTICE slag is not about anything. From scratch doing a tragedy, so that the people would be pissed off who is the provocateur? Some went through the corridor without problems, others shot and WHAT is this?

    That's right. The problem is not worth a damn egg at all. The task of information is to increase the degree. Purely from a political point of view - playing on each other's nerves. Now both sides will blame each other. The USA - that Iran conducted the exercises, Iran - that the Americans were provocateurs and specially carried out their ships at that time.
    Both that and other party in the right and no provocation from the USA are present. They walked along the international channel.
    There is no provocation from Iran either. The exercises were conducted in their own territorial waters, and the firing was not conducted "in the direction of the aircraft carrier", but "from the aircraft carrier, in the opposite direction." Although, of course, the Americans experienced a few unpleasant minutes

    Quote: Blondy
    Some kind of muddy presentation. Everyone will be judged by whether there was an early warning about the exercises: if there were provocateurs in NATE, but if not, then there is already other material for discussion.

    About my IMHO, I wrote a little higher. Note - attempt to escalate the situation

    Quote: igorka357
    Don’t tell me, I respect Iran for its independent policy, but you must face the truth ... it’s not difficult to break Iran! Americans were not at home in Iraq and Afghanistan and Libya, but look what you’ve done, I’m silent about Yugoslavia, there they were almost at our place and this did not stop them !!!

    Alas, many do not want to do this - face the truth. If necessary, the Americans will roll out Iran. The question is only in time, losses and political expediency. Weight categories are too different for these countries.
  18. avg-mgn
    avg-mgn 30 December 2015 09: 36
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    avvg RU Today, 06: 40 New

    In my opinion, the NATO ships simply organized a provocation against Iran, at the time of the Iranian Navy exercises.

    Who would doubt that? At the same time, for some reason, the question of a note of protest or other actions is not even raised, if, taking into account the same conditions, these were Russian missiles - it would have stinked ....
  19. Dormidosha
    Dormidosha 30 December 2015 09: 39
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    The Iranians should have "missed" a couple of times !!!!
  20. evge-malyshev
    evge-malyshev 30 December 2015 10: 26
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    "Exceptional" follow where they want and when they want. At sea, on land, in the air, and even in space And no one decides to them. So you have to understand Iran should was to stop his teachings so as not to provoke the "exceptional".
  21. voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 30 December 2015 11: 52
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    Iranians will not risk now.
    They have just lifted the sanctions, they are preparing for oil trading,
    to foreign investment.
    After 10 years of stupor, their economy begins to rise.