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About polar bears, gray brains and Internet provocations

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The strange sensation caused by the recent hype about the allegedly brutally killed by a explosive packet of a polar bear. As far as this история believable, everyone can judge for himself. If you take my personal opinion - the "order" of the purest water.


Another question is who needs it and why? Who needs to feed us with frank fiction to activate the gene of aggression?

But I will leave it at the end, but I'll start with the bear. More precisely, with a frank lie performed by the zoodefender G. Oskolkova. In general, I got the impression that she still worked at ukroSMI. The methods are very similar.

Quote from her performance at REN-TV:

“According to rumors, after the explosion, the bear shouted, and the bear cub, who was next to her, climbed under the container. Later,“ green ”came to the place, who fired at the bear with rubber bullets, as the wounded beast was a danger to people. As a result, the bear ran away with A bear cub on the tundra. The Greens said that there is no body — there is no work. The person who did this has already disappeared.

This story was told to me by my son, who worked at that facility. As my son told me on the phone, the locals fed this bear. Once he called and said that the bear had been killed, she was thrown a explosive bag, which she swallowed instead of delicacy. I asked if there were any witnesses, he said there is a video. I asked my son to let his friends drop this video, but for various reasons it didn’t work. Then one friend went to the site and brought this video. And this incident happened back in November. "

What really touches her performance.

1. The incident happened in November, but was bombed only in late December. What, one wonders, waited?

2. It was not possible for various reasons to forward the video. This is nowadays just some kind of nonsense. As ukrov, destroyed "Armaty" in Slavyansk. That battery sat on the phone, then there is no network. You can call, but throw something - no way. Noodles begin to interfere with listening with ears.

3. One friend went to the site and brought the video. I envy Oskolkovoy. Having such acquaintances who can go straight to Wrangel Island (just closed, by the way, the territory) just for the sake of one video is impressive. And in terms of finances, and in terms of connections. Noodles begin to stain the shoulders.

4. The locals who feed the bear are a masterpiece! Considering the fact that there are no locals on Wrangel at all, except for meteorologists and employees of the reserve. They are "locals". And, as one, especially reserved, it is aware, than stupidity with a feeding of a white bear can end.

But the words of the former chef Yuri believe. I believe that the lure of nothing to do was toiling someone from the authorities. Which can not be given to the jaw. And it would be necessary. Because such idiocy often ends in tragedy.

About rubber bullets of some kind of "green", as well as the "explosive package smeared with meat" even have no desire to comment. In general, an idiot is not a bear, but those who believe that he is capable of such nonsense. It is clear to the (knowledgeable bears) person that the beast has stuck to check that it has arrived. And got a nose (very sensitive) charge of firecracker. It hurts. I understand the bear. But I understand those who threw this thing.

I had the opportunity to see a polar bear with my own eyes. The first time in a zoo in the city of Ukhta, the second time - in the North, in a natural environment. The first time was interesting, I was still small, and such a machine was impressive. The second time was less fun.

Being on a business trip in one of our northern ... well, who knows what stuffed all over their lips, he is silent. It was, in short. And once in the weekend we went for the fish. And on the shore stumbled upon the Boss. Honestly, I never ran in my life again. And not the first to come to the finish (all-terrain vehicle). The first were more experienced and older service partners. As a result, minus the inflatable boat, catch and mood.

The polar bear is not a cute animal. This is a combat killing machine, weighing up to a ton. Ursa smaller, but compensate for aggression and speed. And the nastiest thing that can be is if some idiot feeds exactly a bear. Because it starts to protect its territory, where there is food, from everyone. Including from people. Even a male can be repulsed.

Fast, strong and agile killer - that's what a polar bear. Without hunting rituals (like a cobra, does not warn), with a completely unpredictable behavior (the bear has no facial muscles, he doesn’t shave and growl like a dog), he just takes and attacks.

By the way, we were saved by what he didn’t really want to catch up with. The fish in the boat saved. Because if the beast were hungry or angry, you will run away from him. 30 km / h gives easy, and spit him that way. The head is gone - the rest of the ass will carry. You can escape only in a place that he can not break. Motolaba, for example. And it is purely for fitness to spread a panel house to pieces.

By the way, this is the opinion of experts from a very well-known company WWF - For the Living Planet. Suspecting them to hate polar bears is impossible. So, read their opinion: Polar bear and man.

Well, once such a disposition, then with the opinion of the cook who allegedly fed the explosive package to the poor bear: [leech = http: //lifenews.ru/news/176893] The cook told his version of what happened to the bear in the Arctic [/ url].

That's enough. And so it is obvious that a certain group of people once again fed the people of the country with another lie. And on a lie, everything was wooed, from indignant lovers of cute white bears to some ministers who throw mud at the Internet. About the TV channels are already silent.

Let us leave on the conscience of Oskolkova, Foteev and others like them all that noodles, which they professionally threw over the shoulders of those who read and look. Let's try to forgive those who openly threatened all participants of the events a month and a half ago. Cook Yuri, his mother and wife.

Several points are noteworthy: the intensity of emotions and radicalism with regard to the accused. And I note that all these radical opinions are voiced mainly by the female half of humanity. Alas, there is no mind, no beauty, no truth in these opinions. Emotions, emotions ... The question arises: is there not anyone else to laugh about?

There is a superbly organized stuffing on the fan of a huge pile, the spray of which flew right up to the government of the Russian Federation and the Prosecutor General’s Office. The incident occurred more than a month and a half ago, on the night of November 8. Who and why needed to raise such a wave right now? Who and what distracts the attention of such a furiously indifferent public?

Who needed to include in the list many tens of thousands of people with heightened emotionality, incapable of independent logical thinking and critical understanding of information coming from outside?

Full impression of some kind of experiment on the selection and filtering of the population. And this is annoying, to be honest. If only because it is not quite clear to me for what purpose someone reveals outright hysteria in large numbers. And to whom these hysterics may be needed in such quantities.

"In such quantities" is me about 163 000 who signed the petition with an angry demand to punish all the perpetrators. Think about it.

163 000 people did not begin to understand what had happened. "Shavali info" and rushed to scribble and repost.

Alive and, unfortunately, stupid ammunition informational. And to make, as practice has shown, there is nothing to do.

1. Take any event. If only suitable for orientation to the audience. This is the body.

2. We charge an explosive. There is generally a field for creativity, again, any nonsense will come down, like a trotyl-checkered daub. Who is there among women, for example, will think about how this meat can be smeared with a piece, and in general, what is this piece? It is not important. The main thing is that the evil bear was hurt by evil people. You can generally carry a complete nonsense, but if there is a good sauce, they will eat it like pretty ones.

3. Striking element. Involvement to the event, based on the postulate "together we are power!" Plus, general discontent and heightened social justice. Here, of course, the authors of the stuffing should have been able to domontorize the video of happily giggling males and shouting like "And how they die - we will make a shish kebab." That's when it would have exploded like a nuclear weapon for sure.

Then everything is simple. Laiki, comments, comments of famous people, the reaction of the official structures - and here you already have his Majesty Public Opinion.

It remains only to throw the findings in the heated head. In our case - see what these do in the Arctic! Bears are cruelly killed! And what will happen next?

Therefore, at least there is no bear cub, there is no killed mother bear, there is no TNT checker either, but there are two things.

First: everyone who got into this story with their comments and likes was computed and recorded. Each. And, most likely, taken into account and put in the daddy "for the future."

Second, negative attention is drawn to the arctic region.

You can, of course, gut every detail in detail and clearly demonstrate that the whole story is a complete lie. But now to whom and what will prove? The main thing has already been done. Such is the gregarious thinking of this "target audience."

And something difficult to oppose. For a well-organized flock is already a crowd. Well, while the flock sits on the Internet. Worse, when a herd turned into a crowd, will lead to the streets. This we have already passed, and thank God, not by example. Until.

The country of Russia is too big, too much of the Arctic belongs to it. And from the shelf of the concession, everyone squeezed out slowly. Therefore, a flurry of stories about the terrible horrors of the North, the stimulation of separatism of small nations and so on will only increase.

Yes, this is a problem. Too much forest, too much gas, too much oil and uranium. Too much tasty shelf in the Arctic. Too much of everything.

Therefore, without a doubt, our “partners” will try to do us all sorts of nastiness. And look for those who can become their hope and support.

People, beware! And before you get familiar with the next substance flying from a fan, let everyone think for a minute: is it all the way they are told? In the words of one hero of a famous film series, "in our difficult time, no one can be trusted. Even to himself. Especially if there are a lot of likes."
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  1. Uran
    Uran 30 December 2015 10: 52 New
    -60 qualifying.
    this is sacrilege. so do with the bear
    1. Phantom Revolution
      Phantom Revolution 30 December 2015 10: 59 New
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      Quote: Uranus
      this is sacrilege. so do with the bear

      Blasphemy is an abuse of shrines. For you, is a bear a holy animal?
      Mockery of animals can be called stupidity or cruelty, or the animal was fed and it began to pose a danger to humans, this happens (on drill rigs we had to shoot lured bears that stopped being afraid of humans).
      1. kit-kat
        kit-kat 30 December 2015 11: 04 New
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        Does it not occur to you that for many shrines is nature, not mythical gods and attributes associated with them?
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 30 December 2015 11: 19 New
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          and it didn’t occur to you that the bear has no natural enemies and this is really a killing machine
          1. Igor39
            Igor39 30 December 2015 11: 23 New
            +7
            There are no natural enemies, but they are in the Red Book.
            1. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 30 December 2015 11: 32 New
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              Chesh word, give you a red book as an amulet and send to a meeting with a bear
              even if a person provoked this conflict, there are two options: either you are a "tourist breakfast" or a "tourist"
              1. yushch
                yushch 30 December 2015 12: 43 New
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                Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                Chesh word, give you a red book as an amulet and send to a meeting with a bear
                even if a person provoked this conflict, there are two options: either you are a "tourist breakfast" or a "tourist"


                I absolutely support you and the author of the article. From people who know the north, I heard firsthand that a polar bear is not scared from a weapon, because pack ice bursts louder and the bear is not afraid. Therefore, they are scared away by shots of illuminating rockets and possibly light explosions from explosive packets nearby. I believe that this incident should be considered as an accident. And in general, let these so-called environmentalists make a fuss when there is a massive slaughter of squirrels, this is really barbarism.
                1. Mahmut
                  Mahmut 30 December 2015 13: 52 New
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                  For feeding a predator (intentional or not) in Siberian villages, it was traditionally customary to mash the sides of an animal lover. And they wrinkled so hard that often that spirit gave off. I wrote this comment a year ago and earned a bunch of minuses. I am amazed at the number of experts who know the world around them without leaving their apartment. One of these clowns even betrayed that foresters are engaged in lure of predators. That is, they do not spread hay and salt for ungulates, but meat for bears, lynxes and wolves.
                2. arnulla
                  arnulla 30 December 2015 14: 31 New
                  -23 qualifying.
                  Perhaps you are right, and a shot from a gun would not frighten a bear. But this case didn’t occur in a desert area — there are buildings, and you could just hide somewhere. And this is if the beast is absolutely wild. And as we understood, the bear was a little -If not lure. Somehow do not converge ..
                  1. yushch
                    yushch 30 December 2015 16: 26 New
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                    Quote: arnulla
                    Perhaps you are right, and a shot from a gun would not frighten a bear. But this case didn’t occur in a desert area — there are buildings, and you could just hide somewhere. And this is if the beast is absolutely wild. And as we understood, the bear was a little -If not lure. Somehow do not converge ..


                    And what does not converge? A fed bear will not kill a person with the same ease as not fed? And then, the one who saw the bear might have time to hide in the building, and the one who would go around the corner and stumble upon a beast would not have time to escape. A bear is not a boar, he will get it on a tree, and for a beast weighing a ton, knocking a door off I think is not a problem at all.
                  2. ed24
                    ed24 31 December 2015 10: 11 New
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                    Perhaps you confuse the concept of lured and tamed? Predator food - training to the place of hunting! Do you understand? It's like feeding a shark for blood, then send people to work in the water. He will hunt at the place of feeding!
                    1. shasherin.pavel
                      shasherin.pavel 2 January 2016 11: 01 New
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                      Quote: ed24
                      It's like feeding a shark for blood, then send people to work in the water.

                      Apparently here you do not understand everything ... A predator is a "orderly" in nature. Even a tamed wolf perfectly sees a healthy and sick organism and attacks the sick one, since it is an easy prey. (I advise you to find the book "Do not scream, wolves!") Both the wolf and the shark first of all assess the health of the victim, and thereby decide how dangerous it is for them first of all. When the doctors advised me to change the climate (to leave the north) I ended up in the Pskov region. Pushkinogorye. collective farm "Victory", I had to be surrounded by five wolves in an open field, I will not say that I was not scared (I could even imagine where my bones in the snow would be scattered across the field), but as an old dog owner (dog handler) knew that fear should not be shown and walked three meters from one of the wolves. I felt how they looked at my back with every cell. Only when the wolves left I was already running so I broke all records, not because of the wolves, but because the clothes were wet from shoulders to knees, and the frost was twenty degrees. So I ran all the remaining 6 kilometers without rest, as I understood I would stop - I would freeze to death. It also helped that next to my house in Pustynki "Vovchik" lived - probably the biggest wolf of the Pskov region. When I showed him to his brother, he said that he had never seen anything like this. A lone wolf, who often accompanied me to my house on night hikes.
                  3. sssla
                    sssla 1 January 2016 13: 27 New
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                    Quote: arnulla
                    .A as we understood

                    So you got it wrong
                3. Kite
                  Kite 30 December 2015 17: 01 New
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                  Quote: yushch
                  massive slaughter of squirrels, this is really barbarism.

                  - they still did not pay attention to how modern Danes drive dolphins into the bay and beat them all, young and old, recklessly, joyfully, chopping left and right, standing waist-deep in blood red with blood. They do not kill, but they torture with peaks and axes, allegedly for competition in fishing.
                  1. zao74
                    zao74 31 December 2015 18: 29 New
                    -10 qualifying.
                    - they still did not pay attention to how modern Danes drive dolphins into the bay and beat them all, young and old, recklessly, joyfully, chopping left and right, standing waist-deep in blood red with blood. They do not kill, but they torture with peaks and axes, allegedly for competition in fishing.
                    . Wow! Facts to the studio!
                    1. Kite
                      Kite 31 December 2015 19: 54 New
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                      “You didn't know that ?!” Watch the video at the end of the link.
                      so dolphins are killed in Denmark

                      http://www.delphinidae.ru/publ/rodina_princa_datskogo_koshmar_dlja_delfinov_i_ki

                      tov / 11-1-0-129
                      1. sssla
                        sssla 1 January 2016 13: 30 New
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                        Quote: Kite
                        “You didn't know that ?!”

                        State Exam Saint rules !!!
                      2. Kite
                        Kite 1 January 2016 13: 44 New
                        +3
                        No, not an exam! It’s just some surprise that for such an impressive event, often repeated in reporting, it was necessary to provide unaesthetic photographs.
                      3. sssla
                        sssla 1 January 2016 15: 29 New
                        +2
                        An exam is a generalized concept of people (crampons) who, in addition to beer, who are in trend and dough, are not interested in anything else, they simply are not interested in learning a world that is not profitable for them!
                        Wow! Facts to the studio!
                        It's like in a western audience that a comedian laughs! If there are no hilarious tweaks or twitches from a comedian, the Western audience will not understand that you need to laugh !! And I was not surprised if he demanded a document with a wet seal confirming this !!
                  2. shasherin.pavel
                    shasherin.pavel 2 January 2016 11: 16 New
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                    Here I am at a loss: put a plus - approve the photo and what is in the photo, or + information. But I sincerely agree that this is a crime, one of many. Of course, dolphins tear the nets of fishermen and thus deprive them of part of the catch, but people also take food from whales with their nets. No one can say that the ocean is our element in which we live, we are guests and ruthless there ... That means that we must understand that we are stealing their food from the inhabitants of the ocean and at the same time we are taking revenge on them, for the fact that they our nets are tearing. And if you look dispassionately, it is high time for them to have their own "Moby Dick" in every family, which would drown everything that they meet. But they don’t do this, they sacrifice themselves, and they don’t declare war on us ... unlike people.
              2. sssla
                sssla 1 January 2016 13: 29 New
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                Quote: Kite
                - they still did not pay attention to how modern Danes drive dolphins into the bay and beat them all, young and old, recklessly, joyfully, chopping left and right, standing waist-deep in blood red with blood. They do not kill, but they torture with peaks and axes, allegedly for competition in fishing.

                This is their tradition for such a long time! I watched on TV and was in shock !!
                Kill hundreds simply so because the tradition is this !! AND SILENCE in the world !!!
              3. unfriendly
                unfriendly 1 January 2016 22: 01 New
                +5
                modern Danes drive into a bay for a dolphin sandbank and beat

                dolphins have intellect like children, dolphins are the only animals besides humans that have sex for pleasure. How is that possible? How can you beat an unrequited animal that is unable to give back or harm? In my personal ranking, the Danes descended to the lowest level, moving the Gundos, mattresses and God's chosen ones a little up.
                1. sssla
                  sssla 1 January 2016 23: 37 New
                  +1
                  In my personal ranking, the Danes descended to the lowest level, moving the gundos, mattresses
                  Believe me, they are at the same stage EVERYTHING !!! At the last
                2. shasherin.pavel
                  shasherin.pavel 2 January 2016 11: 19 New
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                  Below the Danes are the Japanese, where whaling fleets still go into the ocean.
              4. shasherin.pavel
                shasherin.pavel 2 January 2016 11: 05 New
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                And in Japan, officially there is a day when dolphins and all cetaceans are exterminated along the coast, when I saw these frames (a sea of ​​blood along the coast) I hated all Japs.
            2. Zoldat_A
              Zoldat_A 1 January 2016 07: 49 New
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              Quote: yushch
              And in general, let these so-called environmentalists make a fuss when there is a massive slaughter of squirrels, this is really barbarism.

              Conservationists have nothing to do in "civilized countries"? And the giraffe Marius from great tolerance with children was cut into portions? So that the new generation does not hesitate to hang and burn in ovens, like their "civilized" great-grandfathers?

              But with all our "barbarism" we did not think of what those who teach us to live have gotten to. I still haven't remembered about American Indians ...
              1. shasherin.pavel
                shasherin.pavel 2 January 2016 11: 26 New
                +1
                It is justified by the fact that, allegedly, when mating this giraffe, incest would have happened, since the giraffes in the area are already relatives to him. And someone singled out a giraffe in Africa, which would have made its way to 1 000 km., For the sake of mating. Well, stupid ... bl ... and (like Lavrov, when there are foreigners around). It seems they generally do not know nature and do not understand. In nature, all animals are relatives, so a loner who has left the herd is prey (for ungulates) or not the ability to get food (for predators). The most important thing is that they do not have the same hereditary diseases, which in nature can not be, any disease, this is an invitation to predators for dinner.
                1. Zoldat_A
                  Zoldat_A 2 January 2016 11: 54 New
                  +1
                  Quote: shasherin.pavel
                  It is justified by the fact that, allegedly, when mating this giraffe, incest would have happened, since the giraffes in the area are already relatives to him.

                  About the giraffe incest, they remembered there! Have you forgotten about the completely human sin of sodomy? They’ve gathered the Bible to write, it’s irrelevant, they say .... The hypocrites are Harrow ...

                  "Death will find the cause" - approaches that poor giraffe like never before. First, they let the lions on entrecotes in front of the children, now they are looking for an excuse. And along the way they shout to the whole world that we in Russia treat cockroaches inhumanely ...
            3. shasherin.pavel
              shasherin.pavel 2 January 2016 10: 41 New
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              Quote: yushch
              a shot from a weapon does not scare, because the pack ice bursts louder

              Have you ever been shot at with a blank shot aimed at your side from thirty meters? Bursting ice packs sound in a wide range over the entire length of the crack. Even if you don’t talk about pack ice, then on the Imandra Lake once the ice burst right under my skis, it crashed well, but I understood what was right under my feet only when I saw how water came out from under the snow. And when they shoot in your direction, then the ears are significantly painful. But the bear’s hearing is much better than human, which means it’s more susceptible to this. It’s not necessary to shoot directly at the bear, it is enough to lower the trunk horizontally and approximately towards the bear. A small shell shock with ringing in the ears will drive the bear away from housing for a long time.
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          3. go21zd45few
            go21zd45few 2 January 2016 08: 46 New
            +2
            The most terrible creature on the planet is a man who, for the sake of momentary profit and profit, destroys everything around him without thinking about what he will leave to his descendants. By our thoughtless actions, we people upset the balance in nature that will naturally affect our existence on the planet.
        2. Nick
          Nick 1 January 2016 14: 17 New
          -2
          Quote: Igor39
          There are no natural enemies, but they are in the Red Book.

          Well...? What's next? What do you mean by that?
        3. Esso
          Esso 1 January 2016 21: 19 New
          -14 qualifying.
          Dear author Skomorokhov, your last name, gives all the ideas to the full extent you are a buffoon, buffoon, go cheer people on the square, and do not write advanced articles. The paper will endure everything as they say. The fact is the first fact of abuse on the face, it’s on the video. I’m writing about the charge of a fire or the explosion of a package, I don’t think it is different everywhere. I explode in the paste of an animal, it does serious harm! it exploded and nothing is all the liars and people who do not know the property of gunpowder. The criminal who did this will always scream that self-defense. he is not guilty.
          The second photograph has already been published, this cook was feeding the she-bear, a question or something, it’s extremely dangerous and not reasonable, a bear in this case, a predator. The climate is changing in the Arctic, animal food chains are changing, there isn’t enough food when there is no food, the bear will seek food elsewhere (in people, for example), and where lure ..... you know.
          The third is not polar explorers, but builders. The cooks were fired, not because of the case, but because the inspecting authorities began to show interest in the company in which he worked, everything is far from clean, here in the company they started shouting, the matter is politicized, this is a provocation, they want us slander and spit on the bear, for the company is most afraid of checking and opening theft!
          Fourth, the workers do not know elementarily who the polar bear is, how to carry themselves, what is possible and what cannot be. And throwing explosives into it cannot be called right.
          The incident happened in November .. Well, probably there is no Internet there, or not everyone has access! While the author reached the mainland, he sent it to his mother (animal rights activist). Here's a month for you. The Arctic is not an international airport for you; planes from there fly far from every day!
          You do not broadcast noodles to us.
          One grandmother, one acquaintance. I doubt very much that for the sake of the video, who will go to distant lands. Do not broadcast noodles.
          it was said that the cook fed.
          You may be his acquaintance who acquits the criminal. The bosses don't care about bears, they think grandmas. But the cook decided to make a joke out of boredom!
          About rubber bullets of some "green", as well as a "meat-coated explosive" Greens are reserve employees or hunters who are obliged to help polar explorers or builders, in case of a threat of an attack on them by a wild animal or an attack, they use means to to drive away the beast, or if the beast does not leave (having already killed someone), they kill him.
          In general, not a bear, but those who believed that he was capable of such stupidity.
          In general, you, who did not understand the facts, did not have evidence, but wrote everything from the words of the said cook. The bear came there more than once, everyone knows that, he was fed, this is a fact, all the more there are witnesses who testified against the cook. in November, they already learned what had happened, the cook was fined, and the authorities didn’t want hype in the press, they didn’t punish the cooks, and those who didn’t hide the fact fired, so they gave evidence, and they laid out the evidence of the crime.
          Apparently your brain has postponed that the bear is big and dangerous, well done!
          Being on a business trip in one of our northern ones .. And once on a weekend we went for a fish. Oh, poor thing, we were upset, so dear, when you go hunting or fishing, you are on the territory of the "owner." And what you have to do is suppose a hunter or fisherman can become the object of the hunt himself!
          A polar bear is not a cute little animal.
          Naturally, everyone knows this, you explain it to your beloved chef!
          Conclusion: some people didn’t understand everything, believed the words of the criminal, he had a false idea. Now the company where the cook worked will be checked and there’s a lot to be revealed, they got rid of the negligent employee, now they’ll cover up traces, and will be covered with a bear’s protection .
          So, dear author, do not write nonsense, go work with a buffoon ...
          1. Kite
            Kite 1 January 2016 22: 44 New
            +6
            Max, you often speak sharply, more often than you are right.
            The author is wrong when he expressed great doubts about the mental abilities of some "girl" who described the method of disguising the explosion of a bag in food? If the explosion had occurred near the muzzle, then there would have been no great harm (did you know that gunpowder burns more intensely, the higher the pressure? And this would be possible if the beast squeezed the explosive packet in its mouth without damaging its shell.). In this case, an extremely rare meeting of two foolish is described, one went out at night, breaking the rules, and the other he thought of a sizzling stink.
            Or do you have evidence that the high-explosive package was delivered by technical means under the bear’s nose and detonated remotely, deliberately, deliberately?
            1. Esso
              Esso 2 January 2016 12: 03 New
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              The closest example of my statement is about ostensibly providing an installment plan to Ukraine, it was a shit, although I wrote you read the president’s words to the end, what he specifically offers, as a result, alarmists ran, boss lost everything, debt was leaked, minuses minuses, you don’t I’m right, we haven’t forgiven the result and we are suing! So time will tell how they say who’s right, don’t judge early. In this case, the person is to blame, and the beast, he is also a beast in Africa.
              And I didn’t talk about the evidence. An explosive packet of increased power was delivered by technical means under the bear’s nose, I said that the packets are of different capacities and what was there, no one knows, the cook claims one thing, and the video shows another, that the blood is pouring plentifully. But not even this is the main thing, the main thing is that the case was opened and the investigation began. And it will be sorted out. And do not listen to the statements of any buffoons or Internet trolls, an alarmist. The time will pass and we will find out with time, who threw up what and what power, what consequences and what really happened. And now every blanket pulls into place!
          2. Semyonych
            Semyonych 2 January 2016 09: 19 New
            +1
            Next, now the company where the cook worked will be checked

            This is probably the goal.
        4. shasherin.pavel
          shasherin.pavel 2 January 2016 10: 28 New
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          Quote: Igor39
          they are in the Red Book.

          They have already multiplied so much on the Kola Peninsula that they flock to cities in flocks ... You will say that bears do not walk in flocks, but at our city dump the drivers of garbage trucks cautiously left their cabins in the summer, the summer was cold, neither berries nor mushrooms (two sunny days in June, three in July, six in August) and the bears went to landfills. In the city of Kirovsk, one had to be shot (this was shown in the news), they began to scare him off with shots, and he rushed at the shooter. "I had to issue a shooting license retroactively" (end of quote from news). The article is now about whites, and I am writing about brown ones - but these are the same bears and the same killing machines that can catch up with a deer or a horse. The problems are the same.
      2. avt
        avt 30 December 2015 12: 02 New
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        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
        and it didn’t occur to you that the bear has no natural enemies and this is really a killing machine

        Here! Like the author
        Fast, strong and agile killer - that's what a polar bear. Without hunting rituals (like a cobra, does not warn), with a completely unpredictable behavior (the bear has no facial muscles, he doesn’t shave and growl like a dog), he just takes and attacks.
        What such a killing machine! ?? wassat Yes, on TV they said that they are generally plush and suitable for a person with only two goals - to eat condensed milk and scratch their belly!
        Quote: Phantom Revolution
        Well, why do you write from a computer, the production of which harmed nature, and the garbage that you throw away also harms nature (obviously you do not recycle it)? Do not hide behind nature, which is supposedly a "temple" for you.

        Build a slander on a man! He doesn’t kill animals for meat, he only buys food at the store, and this is not the same thing. Or maybe a vegetarian? But then, too, the question is — what grass is there to tear and eat — to spoil nature?
        Quote: Alexey Bukin
        . Seeing a beast in a menagerie or in the wild does not mean that one can judge an immoral act.

        Well, here I’ll somehow agree in terms of what needs to be understood in a particular case with consideration of the reasons that led to ...... well, a sadistic case with respect to a really red-book beast, well, like those gouging that they laughed crushing a brown car. To understand and without inflating to the universal scale, to punish the really guilty in establishing their guilt.
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      4. self-propelled
        self-propelled 1 January 2016 20: 56 New
        +3
        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
        and it didn’t occur to you that the bear has no natural enemies and this is really a killing machine

        man is still that killing machine. and he has no natural enemies (except for his own kind). let's put a blast pack in his mouth ... put the video on YouTube and discuss ...
        gentlemen, where are we going? what are you thinking about?
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 1 January 2016 21: 17 New
          0
          Quote: self-propelled
          another killing machine. Yes, and natural enemies

          biologically stupid saying
          Quote: self-propelled
          let's put a blast pack in his mouth ... put the video on YouTube and discuss ...

          think to get a patent?
          make a mistake, find
          Quote: self-propelled
          gentlemen, where are we going? what are you thinking about?

          you will find here at least one approval of putting files of this type in no ?!
          1. self-propelled
            self-propelled 1 January 2016 21: 52 New
            +2
            Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
            biologically stupid saying

            in the matter of murder - a person (as a biological species) in the number of killed and the options for murder surpassed all the predators known on Earth.
            Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
            think to get a patent?

            Yes, I somehow do not gravitate to "worldwide fame".... tell me when you or your friends (relatives, acquaintances, etc.) are in danger (even if in the form of malicious nourished polar bear), You (your friends ....) are filming such moments on video? for some reason there is a strong conviction that at such moments it’s not before the shooting ...
            1. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 1 January 2016 22: 04 New
              0
              Quote: self-propelled
              in the murder case - a person (as a biological species) in the number of killed and the options for killing surpassed all predators known on Earth

              So what?!!!
              declare at the same time that a person as a biological species does not have natural enemies is stupid and illiterate
              Quote: self-propelled
              yes, I somehow do not gravitate towards "world fame" .... tell me when you or your friends (relatives, acquaintances, etc.) are in danger (even in the form of a vicious lured polar bear)

              no less stupid question, in the Kaliningrad region there are no bears, but there are victims of wild boars
              Quote: self-propelled
              You (your friends ....) are filming such moments on video? for some reason there is a strong conviction that at such moments it’s not before the shooting ...
              you will be surprised but enough they take everything off everywhere
              I don’t shoot video, any crap, if I take pictures, I consciously look for beautiful shots
      5. DPN
        DPN 1 January 2016 21: 30 New
        +1
        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
        really a killing machine

        This is a man !.
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 1 January 2016 21: 42 New
          0
          is someone arguing?
          based on this white shark aquarium fish?
          1. shasherin.pavel
            shasherin.pavel 2 January 2016 11: 48 New
            0
            Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
            White shark

            looking for food in order to live, and sometimes makes a journey of thousands of kilometers in order to be in time for the time when the cats begin to enter the ocean. She never kills to give up dead rot. It is capable of storing prey in the stomach for months if there is a supply of fresh meat. He didn’t make it clear: in one institute (not in the course, in the field), they studied the behavior of the caught shark, and every day they gave her 300 grams of fresh meat. Two months later, the shark was killed, gutted ... and found in the stomach of a shark a little dolphin. A shark with the walls of the stomach separated the dolphin from another part of the stomach, where it successfully digested 300 grams of fresh meat every day. A single crocodile is not able to divide the victim into parts so that it goes down the throat, then he pulls the body under the snag or into the cave, like the Nile, and waits for the body to soften and it will become easier to tear. The wolf cuts out a whole herd of sheep only because, domestic sheep go sheep, for him all are sick (fat and clumsy), but if not for the shepherds, he would have eaten everything to the last, and would never have left it.
            1. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 2 January 2016 11: 55 New
              0
              and?!!!!!!!!!!!
      6. Fast_mutant
        Fast_mutant 2 January 2016 03: 57 New
        +6
        Even when this story appeared, I was sure that it was nonsense. I thought so ...
        1. Explosion package. It must be set on fire (after all, not an electric fuse, in fact).
        2. The bear, with his sense of smell, did not smell the smoke from the ignition cord? (he is a female, if it is HE, he smells TEN kilometers away, a female, I think, "sniffs" no worse) and then there is SMOKE under his very nose!
        3. If he did not smell it and ate it, then something is wrong with him, because the bear is a VERY cautious animal, and then (forgive "green with rubber bullets") he is most dear to his bear paradise.
        Somehow I think so.
        And more.
        Here is a message like "... a bear on Wrangel Island ate 1-2-3 people ..." sounds better to the ear of a conservationist?
        1. Aqela
          Aqela 2 January 2016 07: 25 New
          0
          Yeah! The Chinese - over there, fellow and the white bears (overeating, apparently condensed and therefore commanded) - very little is left! yes
          I think that the mass of people think at such a level. I wish their bear had bitten for zh.pu! good
        2. shasherin.pavel
          shasherin.pavel 2 January 2016 11: 53 New
          0
          The dog sniffs the first piece and evaluates it before swallowing, and if you throw the second one closer to the mouth, it’s enough on the fly ... Imagine that the person threw the first two pieces and the bear swallowed them, he could grab the third piece on the fly, too he thinks they throw him the same piece of meat as before. The video is shot from above ... to add further.
      7. shasherin.pavel
        shasherin.pavel 2 January 2016 10: 15 New
        0
        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
        and it never occurred to you

        And whoever comes up with a clever idea. We have deceased pets buried in a forest-park strip, where previously there was a culture park until it was transferred to another part of the city, thereby creating a feeder for bears. Bears stick to the forested area and traces of their paws can be found on trees a hundred meters from the railway and 150 meters from the outer house. They come in the city park, where the rides, though not every year, but every five years it happens.
    2. Phantom Revolution
      Phantom Revolution 30 December 2015 11: 25 New
      +9
      Quote: kit-kat
      Does it not occur to you that for many shrines is nature, not mythical gods and attributes associated with them?

      Is nature a sacred place for you? Well, why do you write from a computer, the production of which harmed nature, and the garbage that you throw away also harms nature (obviously you do not recycle it)? Do not hide behind nature, which is supposedly a "temple" for you.
      1. Aqela
        Aqela 2 January 2016 07: 28 New
        +1
        Well, you don’t understand! For him, "shrine" is a purely theoretical thing! Right now, he will drink instant coffee (naked chemistry, how much after the production of its slags?), Eat some "Snickers" (the packaging will decompose in nature for a hundred years) and begin to reproach everyone for disrespect to mother nature.
    3. sharp-lad
      sharp-lad 1 January 2016 13: 04 New
      0
      And these many are very eager to go north as a Tourist's Breakfast?
      1. Evgeniy667b
        Evgeniy667b 2 January 2016 06: 50 New
        0
        I have always been amazed at the peculiarity of some people to create a kind of moral standard from their perverted ideas about animals. That stray dogs will be eliminated, they are not okay, now they got to the bear. These "fighters" place the idea of ​​their righteousness above human life. G. Oskolkova, if she is so righteous, take and work on the front of returning to normal life the same homeless people or treating drug addicts !? This is the highest humanism. But no, it is much easier to raise a squabble, it is a squabble where nothing bothers her, no practical effort is needed. The main thing is safe. This woman most likely has a very nasty character, she does not distinguish anyone except a domestic dog or a cat. I have no doubt that she has them. The investigation deals with these issues on Wrangel and it relies on real facts, and not on speculation, sometimes a sick imagination. They must draw conclusions. Roman Skomorokhov assesses the situation correctly, since many people want to get to the Arctic!
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    4. Nick
      Nick 1 January 2016 14: 14 New
      +2
      Quote: kit-kat
      Does it not occur to you that for many shrines is nature, not mythical gods and attributes associated with them?

      Didn’t it occur to you that there was no killing with a firecracker? Well, can you imagine an animal, any animal that, like fire, is afraid of any fire, excuse the pun that swallows a firecracker with a burning, and nasty stink of burnt gunpowder, cord? Turn on the brain, if you have one.
    5. rfnthtirf
      rfnthtirf 2 January 2016 09: 23 New
      +1
      Mythical gods? ... attributes? ... suppose, but can this justify the wave of hatred for the wife and mother. Or is human life rated so low? I have several friends that humanize animals, that people are creatures, but dogs and cats are real friends. This personally always worries me.
  2. 30BIS
    30BIS 1 January 2016 09: 08 New
    -12 qualifying.
    Throwing in the Internet. Even so. But for educational purposes. Let it be. And then, it’s not our people -I went out onto the stairwell and justified the door to my neighbor !! No, this Martian kicks a puppy’s boot! He will kill someone else’s kitten (cat, you’ve put a rug on him) This is someone who came from abroad and took the little thing from the kid, robbed the old woman, and why did she need a pension ... Burn the homeless person alive .. no, these are children of another nation !! What are we few cattle? For educational purposes, to attract attention and condemnation of certain actions, let's say any stuffing! If it crawls to society and our state !!!
    1. 30BIS
      30BIS 1 January 2016 11: 14 New
      0
      Negative !! What I wrote wrong! ? What are we few cattle? People do not need to be educated; there are no lovers of hunting drunk? Or are you for them for these idiots!
      1. Nick
        Nick 1 January 2016 18: 00 New
        +2
        Quote: 30BIS
        Negative !! What I wrote wrong! ? What are we few cattle?

        One thing has drawn in your face.
        1. shasherin.pavel
          shasherin.pavel 2 January 2016 12: 05 New
          0
          And there is no need to be rude and personal, tea "you do not live in a gang, but in a state", and we have enough cattle even at the top: "Listen, brother, do not believe their rumor there are no more here than in the Kremlin." You were asked a question normally, without rudeness, and you immediately "put on a hat - the intelligentsia is lousy!" The answer is worthy of a comrade in the bazaar, smoking two ABC books at the children.
      2. Aqela
        Aqela 2 January 2016 07: 32 New
        +2
        I, personally, "missed out" because in general I did not understand anything intelligible in the half-digested mince from letters and punctuation marks. I would like you to just think about what you wanted to say before inserting your comment.
        1. shasherin.pavel
          shasherin.pavel 2 January 2016 12: 07 New
          0
          "Ligbez" is not enough for us, that's for sure, especially in punctuation marks, this is a sore point for SMSovsky's society.
      3. shasherin.pavel
        shasherin.pavel 2 January 2016 11: 58 New
        0
        Quote: 30BIS
        drunk lovers

        Until now, I recall with horror the discovery of hunting, the roar of war, they shoot at everything that does not move and moves, even if you move in dashes. God forbid to give a voice, it's good if the fraction "heap passed, akurat between us."
    2. Nick
      Nick 1 January 2016 17: 50 New
      0
      Quote: 30BIS
      .And that’s not our people -I went out onto the stairwell and justified the door to my neighbor !! No, this Martian kicks a puppy’s boot! He’ll kill someone else’s kitten (cat, you’ve put a rug on him) It’s someone who came from abroad and took the kid has a trifle, robbed an old woman, and why did she need a pension ... A homeless person was burned alive .. no, these are children of another nation !! What are we few cattle?

      This is all in human nature. Such phenomena are among any other nation and peoples. There are enough cattle in any country.
      Quote: 30BIS

      For educational purposes, to attract attention and condemnation of certain actions, let's say any stuffing! If it crawls to society and our state !!!
      Lying is not permissible in all its manifestations. But if you want to use a lie for the benefit of OUR state, which is quite controversial, then allow such stuffing about America, for example, or about Canada. They also have northern territories. What is all about Russia stuffing allowed? I think that it’s just not for the good of Russia that such stuffing is carried out.
      By the way, your nickname corresponds to the nicknames of paid trolls. Personal identification number by which your work against Russia is taken into account and paid.
      Yes, many were lured by 30 Serebrennikov, of those 30 lard greens allocated by the United States to undermine Russia from the inside.
      How profitable to betray the homeland?
      1. shasherin.pavel
        shasherin.pavel 2 January 2016 12: 18 New
        0
        Quote: Nick
        Your nickname corresponds to the nicknames of paid trolls. Personal identification number by which your work against Russia is taken into account and paid.

        and what can you earn on this? I thought they were trolling to write more ... that is, they are drawn into disputes, with a meaning: write-write more. And why, then, the "patriots" are not given anything? Although no ... I remember how six "viruses" were sent to me as a gift in three hours. I wrote in ... antivirus: "Thanks for the job" six viruses in three hours "". And there were no more gifts.
    3. EvgNik
      EvgNik 2 January 2016 06: 55 New
      +1
      Quote: 30BIS
      If it crawls to society and our state !!!

      Do you even understand that this story is in no way beneficial to the state? The article directly says: we are surviving from the Arctic. And for this, all methods are suitable! And I do not see how this swollen history is beneficial to our state. For this and minus.
  3. DPN
    DPN 1 January 2016 21: 29 New
    +2
    Quote: Phantom Revolution
    (on drilling rigs, it was necessary to shoot lured bears who stopped being afraid of humans).

    They didn’t do it right, it was necessary to shoot those who fed.
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  • Alexey Boukin
    Alexey Boukin 30 December 2015 11: 00 New
    -1
    The "excuse" began. The author of the article is apparently the only one who knows exactly the essence of the matter. Seeing a beast in a menagerie or in the wild does not mean that one can judge an immoral act.
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 30 December 2015 11: 20 New
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      Quote: Alexey Bukin
      does not mean that one can judge an immoral act.

      funny, but you mean you can judge an immoral act or not ?!
    2. domokl
      domokl 30 December 2015 11: 27 New
      43
      It’s interesting when the beast comes and begins to feel like a master at the capture of how a person should act. The tales about the fact that I shot in the air and he ran away don't always roll. He does not run away, because he is the master of the taiga. I'm not talking about whites, they are even more dangerous, but about our ordinary Siberian "taiga".
      Speak immorally? Is it moral to risk people's lives? It's a stupid winter now. In the sense of warm, orphan. Some "parasites" made shitty dens out of bears and the snow on top melts and drips on them. It wakes them up. And they get up. And what is a connecting rod bear?
      Only the Siberians, fortunately, do not have such zoo morality. The hunters drop everything to fill up this killer. They abandon their work (and the hunter's job is 180 ha taiga) to save people from the killer.
      1. Evgeniy667b
        Evgeniy667b 30 December 2015 12: 47 New
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        Even a large dog, if it feels permissiveness on the part of those who keep it, also strives for the status of a leader, seeks to subjugate its environment (people too) and you can expect anything from such a "friend". Nature abhors tolerance. The strongest decides everything. Bears are a special case. Two photographers worked in Kamchatka, one American, the other ours, they almost hugged clubfoot. They believed that they had reached the pinnacle of mutual understanding. As a result, both became breakfasts for the owners of the taiga.
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 30 December 2015 12: 49 New
          +2
          Quote: Evgeniy667b
          if she feels permissiveness on the part of those who contain her, also seeks the status of leader

          even if it’s not, all one can sit on the neck
          1. Zoldat_A
            Zoldat_A 1 January 2016 07: 55 New
            +5
            Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
            Quote: Evgeniy667b
            if she feels permissiveness on the part of those who contain her, also seeks the status of leader

            even if it’s not, all one can sit on the neck

            You can figure it out with a cat, if you do not immediately place all the accents and explain to the cattle who is the boss. And here - a bear. This cat will sit on his neck if "it's a pity to drive the cat under the bench." The bear will not sit on the neck, he will break it ...
            1. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 1 January 2016 08: 32 New
              +3
              Quote: Zoldat_A
              You’ll deal with a cat if you don’t immediately put all the emphasis and explain to the cat who is the boss in the house.

              I can’t do it with my own people, the little ones know that it’s impossible to climb on tol, but they climb, they see that I’m going to dump right away, I’ll leave the kitchen again on the table
              1. Zoldat_A
                Zoldat_A 2 January 2016 11: 47 New
                +2
                Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
                I can’t do it with my own people, the little ones know that it’s impossible to climb on tol, but they climb, they see that I’m going to dump right away, I’ll leave the kitchen again on the table

                I didn't hit my cat, but I took it by the scruff of the neck and poked it with my nose at the edge of the table. And at the same time he swore terribly and thundered terribly with a "terrible" officer's belt. The key point is that repeating the word "no!" Is as scary as possible. As a result, I drove it. A table, a bed and sharpening claws on the corners - you can't! Everything according to grandfather Pavlov is a conditioned reflex. laughing

                And the polar bear, in my opinion, is not at all a cat or even a dog. Very few animals are capable of rushing at an adversary who is larger and obviously stronger than himself. And if, as a person with a bear, one is much smaller and weaker than the other, then it’s clear that the bear does not know the words "symbiosis", "pity", "friendship". He knows the word "eat".

                Always touched in the distant childhood stories of Seton-Thompson - "Domino", "Mustang-pacer", "Lobo" ... Animals and clever thoughts think, and they have nobility, and self-sacrifice ... In childhood it is interesting to read. And you get older and you understand - animals have an instinct. Conditional and unconditional. And that's all. And if the dog protects the owner to death, then this is not self-sacrifice, but a conditioned reflex. She's just doing her job that she's been trained to do. And this conditioned reflex is stronger than the unconditioned instinct of self-preservation. Yes, and people in war often do the same ... If you think about a heroic deed every second, then the thought immediately creeps in: "But they will kill me - how am I going to wear the Hero Star?" And makes such a thought out of a soldier a coward. It's easier to live on instincts in war ... The main thing is that they should be worked out almost as unconditional.
        2. Aqela
          Aqela 2 January 2016 07: 39 New
          +2
          Last winter, while renovating a nearby market, a pack of dogs ran away from the meat rows. This flock began to joke around the neighborhood, tore up domestic cats and dogs, to attack children, and their leader behaved exactly like a "master of the yard" ... This business lasted two weeks, until they were slapped with a trendyule. At first they were still rummaging around, and then disappeared somewhere.
          I now imagined what would happen if there were several hundred kg of steel muscles and aggression for the landlord, and not a male weighing no more than 20 kg ... Mdya ... what
        3. shasherin.pavel
          shasherin.pavel 2 January 2016 12: 25 New
          +1
          Quote: Evgeniy667b
          Even a big dog if she feels

          that there is no leader in the pack (family), she seeks to become a leader and bring everything to order, and she puts things in order with her teeth, this is normal for her, even the female of her children of disobedience can seriously pat, but not damage.
      2. Serg koma
        Serg koma 31 December 2015 17: 00 New
        -3
        Quote: domokl
        the beast comes and starts to feel like a master

        If a beast is fed and watered, in a different way to say "primed" / "lured" how can he not feel like a master? How not to lose "vigilance", a sense of self-preservation and not start to trust your primordial enemy? You will determine who (what) you are talking about. After all, they hunt in zoos ... "proud" of the hunted animal.
        Quote: domokl
        Tales about the fact that I shot in the air and he ran away always do not roll.

        They are rolling, how! Simple protection of the apiary in the Far East meant stretching - it really helped. As a "scarecrow" home-made (and not only) non-lethal noise devices.

        Quote: domokl
        Only the Siberians, fortunately, do not have such a zoo morality. Hunters abandon everything to this to fill up the killer. Throw their work (and the hunter's job is 180 hectares of taiga) to save people from the killer.

        Your key word is "KILLER", and it makes no difference whether it is a person or an animal! The taiga has its own laws ...
        1. 72jora72
          72jora72 1 January 2016 12: 39 New
          +5
          Your key word is "KILLER", and it makes no difference whether it is a person or an animal! The taiga has its own laws.
          The polar bear is really a killer. If a brown bear is omnivorous, and in the presence of berries, mushrooms or carrion it doesn’t attack a person in principle, then a polar bear is 100% predator, and a person for him is an ordinary hunting object, like a seal, for example (even there is an external resemblance). I live in Chukotka, and I have a whole selection of photographs of the victims of the polar bear, have you ever seen a bear completely remove skin from a person (even with warm outerwear)? A terrible sight, believe me.
          1. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 1 January 2016 12: 59 New
            0
            Quote: 72jora72
            The polar bear is really a killer. If a brown bear is omnivorous, and in the presence of berries, mushrooms or carrion it does not attack a person in principle

            so where can white mushrooms with berries get
      3. Victor Demchenko
        Victor Demchenko 1 January 2016 15: 14 New
        +5
        my grandfather, God rest his soul, such a connecting rod fought, and the dog did not save ... recourse and when I read posts about "protecting the poor bears" I want to take such defenders with me to drive the connecting rod once. maybe wiser? fool
      4. self-propelled
        self-propelled 1 January 2016 21: 10 New
        -2
        Quote: domokl
        It’s interesting when the beast comes and begins to feel like a master at the capture of how a person should act. The tales about the fact that I shot in the air and he ran away don't always roll. He does not run away, because he is the master of the taiga. I'm not talking about whites, they are even more dangerous, but about our ordinary Siberian "taiga".
        Speak immorally? Is it moral to risk people's lives? It's a stupid winter now. In the sense of warm, orphan. Some "parasites" made shitty dens out of bears and the snow on top melts and drips on them. It wakes them up. And they get up. And what is a connecting rod bear?
        Only the Siberians, fortunately, do not have such zoo morality. The hunters drop everything to fill up this killer. They abandon their work (and the hunter's job is 180 ha taiga) to save people from the killer.

        Quote: Evgeniy667b
        Even a large dog, if it feels permissiveness on the part of those who keep it, also strives for the status of a leader, seeks to subjugate its environment (people too) and you can expect anything from such a "friend". Nature abhors tolerance. The strongest decides everything. Bears are a special case. Two photographers worked in Kamchatka, one American, the other ours, they almost hugged clubfoot. They believed that they had reached the pinnacle of mutual understanding. As a result, both became breakfasts for the owners of the taiga.

        indisputably. only any of you will not throw an explosive package into the mouth of a bear or your furious dog (saving his own skin) for some reason ... and no one uploads such actions on YouTube, in pants full of go.vna ...
    3. shasherin.pavel
      shasherin.pavel 2 January 2016 12: 21 New
      0
      Quote: Alexey Bukin
      The author of the article is apparently the only one who knows exactly the essence of the matter. See

      immorality around is hard
      Quote: Alexey Bukin
      judge an immoral act.
  • Vend
    Vend 30 December 2015 11: 13 New
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    Quote: Uranus
    this is sacrilege. so do with the bear

    Did you hold an explosive bag in your hands? It is not enough to feed him to the bear, and at the same time it is still necessary that the cord burns. But the bear does not swallow food, but gnaws. And what will remain of the explosion package? Well, my friend exploded in an explosive packet in a cookie, nothing happened. Deaf, bruised palms and the whole physiognomy speckled by gunpowder.
    1. Kite
      Kite 30 December 2015 12: 34 New
      +7
      Quote: Wend
      Did you hold an explosive bag in your hands?

      SHIRAS cannot be thrown at the bear, and the simulator of a hand grenade once exploded in my hands (frozen to the mitten), all fingers are intact, only "dried" for a few minutes. And the stinking smoke from the fuse with what was masked from the bear?
      1. Vend
        Vend 30 December 2015 13: 53 New
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        Quote: Kite
        Quote: Wend
        Did you hold an explosive bag in your hands?

        SHIRAS cannot be thrown at the bear, and the simulator of a hand grenade once exploded in my hands (frozen to the mitten), all fingers are intact, only "dried" for a few minutes. And the stinking smoke from the fuse with what was masked from the bear?

        Here I am about that. The only thing that could happen was the bursting bag tore in front of the bear's face. The nose is a very sensitive place. Then the bear ran away. And inflated, someone has a very stormy fantasy, and knowledge on the tip of a sparrow nose.
        1. igorka357
          igorka357 30 December 2015 16: 50 New
          +3
          I look at your knowledge and you don't really have much! You know something about the concept of pain threshold, and so in bears it is very high! You saw the video at all, for four minutes the bear gave out a breakdance from unbearable pain, and all the snow within a radius of ten meters was in the blood, so check it out and then tweet, I myself am from Siberia and what a bear is, I know perfectly well not by hearsay, the author about a bear not roaring and without a grinning mouth froze something at all, but ... do not play with him and mock, at the beginning of the video one can perfectly hear how one sarcastic "the bear is with you" no guys .. you need to kill the beast right away! was, in front of my eyes, the guy ripped off his finger with a firecracker to scare away bears! The only thing is that they could throw the bag and she grabbed it, and banged .. then it's a coincidence! In general, you see a bear or urine, but not so of course!
          1. Nick
            Nick 1 January 2016 18: 12 New
            -1
            Do you, Igorka, really think that a bear will swallow a burning cord that stinks of gunpowder? Bear’s pain threshold may be high, but how is it? Or do bears have idiots too? lol
            1. shasherin.pavel
              shasherin.pavel 2 January 2016 12: 35 New
              -1
              Minusanul. The answer was written above, the beast sniffs the first thrown piece, in the second and third it is enough on the fly, just like any predator does not like dirt on food. I had a like, so she will catch a mouse or a rat and wear it until she finds a newspaper or some kind of board, but she has never thrown it to the ground. Maybe I had a special dog, but any animal does not like to swallow dirt. True, in the forest of magazines on earth you will not find, but the grass is still cleaner.
              1. Nick
                Nick 4 January 2016 21: 46 New
                0
                Minusanul. Maybe the theory of mud and sniffing only the first piece and there is a place to be, which is debatable, but where is the habit of developing this habit? The bear, in addition to white snow, does not see any other soil, and this is known to be frozen distilled water. What could be cleaner? Certainly not a newspaper or grass.
        2. shasherin.pavel
          shasherin.pavel 2 January 2016 12: 29 New
          +1
          Quote: Wend
          the burst packet jerked in front of the bear's face.

          and blew both forepaws and chest.
    2. Sobol
      Sobol 30 December 2015 13: 54 New
      +7
      Quote: Wend

      Did you hold an explosive bag in your hands? It is not enough to feed him to the bear, and at the same time it is still necessary that the cord burns. But the bear does not swallow food, but gnaws. And what will remain of the explosion package? Well, my friend exploded in an explosive packet in a cookie, nothing happened. Deaf, bruised palms and the whole physiognomy speckled by gunpowder.


      Well yes! And in the snow the bear was rolling with joy, apparently. And the fact that the muzzle and chest is in the blood, so it ate someone before this. It is clear that not everything is clear in history, but! Personally, my opinion - the beast is dangerous - kill, but quickly and painlessly, and do not make it suffer. The same thing applies to people.
      1. Maksus
        Maksus 30 December 2015 14: 49 New
        +2
        About that and the colleague. If the animal is dangerous - kill, but do not scoff. The author of the video is. Or does someone really think that if a person were in the place of a bear, then the author would help him?
        1. Sobol
          Sobol 30 December 2015 15: 32 New
          +8
          Quote: Maksus
          About that and the colleague. If the animal is dangerous - kill, but do not scoff. The author of the video is. Or does someone really think that if a person were in the place of a bear, then the author would help him?

          I think it’s unlikely. Savoring misfortunes, unfortunately, has become fashionable. I remember the news footage: the attack in Moscow in the underpass. People are wounded, all in blood and burns, and some kind of journalist, instead of throwing a fucking camera and something to help, pokes with a lens in his face and moronic questions: -And how do you feel? What happened? Then he regretted that I did not live in Moscow - I would give a goat in the face so that I could change my shoes!
          1. shasherin.pavel
            shasherin.pavel 2 January 2016 12: 50 New
            -1
            Quote: SoboL
            and some journalist,

            I would have filmed the same, since I am not really able to help the wounded, not that I'm afraid of blood, well, I don't know human anatomy. It was so that after the fight, he was the only one when he was able to pull out the dirt from the wound on the guy's leg, rinse it and bandage it. It was and so, in the Crimea, was the only one who decided to turn off the engine of the Zhiguli after the accident. The traffic cop vomited for about ten minutes, in front of me he tried to drown out. But I also understand perfectly well (that they don't write about it), but I think the investigators sniff every such frame from all sides, every minute after the terrorist attack deprives of traces and part of the facts. It all depends on how to shoot and what to shoot. Now, if you take the shots about the "Michigan Monster", I "sniffed" them all, and found three overlays and glues, they write that "the man who shot was killed", and in the frame there is a reflection in the rear-view mirror of the car "a woman with a camera", but here are the eyes I could not recognize the "monster", scary eyes, not scary human eyes, but with squirrels, which animals and monkeys do not have. Can you imagine how much an investigation can take in the first seconds of a terrorist attack or crime ?! I have these eyes in my mobile, I show them to everyone and everyone is horrified, but no one could say to whom they may belong.
            1. Maksus
              Maksus 2 January 2016 20: 20 New
              0
              You really don’t understand what SoboL wanted to say? There is an opportunity to help - help: call the cops, ambulance, firefighters. Bring water, cover with something, follow the commands of someone who knows what to do. But don’t stand with your oh mobile and don’t shoot like a stupid person. Without your records of torment will figure it out ...
      2. Kite
        Kite 30 December 2015 17: 10 New
        0
        Quote: SoboL
        And in the snow the bear was rolling with joy, apparently. And the fact that the muzzle and chest is in the blood, so it ate someone before this

        - this is really a question! If you spit something with a pungent smell on the dog’s face, then it will dig and tumble snow in the face. You will have several minutes to shoot a resonant video.
        1. Kite
          Kite 30 December 2015 20: 43 New
          -1
          for example: ketchup
        2. shasherin.pavel
          shasherin.pavel 2 January 2016 12: 58 New
          -1
          Quote: Kite
          then she will dig snow in the face

          and draw blood on his chest and legs.
      3. Nick
        Nick 1 January 2016 18: 14 New
        -1
        Quote: SoboL
        Personally, my opinion - the beast is dangerous - kill, but quickly and painlessly, and do not make it suffer. The same thing applies to people.

        So no one killed the bear, and they did not find her corpse.
    3. Dimachrus
      Dimachrus 30 December 2015 14: 48 New
      +3
      In the 80s, an army explosive pack was pulled in a friend's hand, the result was a slight wound to the palm of his hand and a bunch of unprintable but colorful epithets about his mental abilities from his colleagues.
      Well, does anyone know any animal at all, which, from hunger or curiosity, will not just "swallow" but at least just go to a burning, hissing, exuding a pungent smell ???
      But for me, the purpose of the article is to show how quickly 163000 were incapable of critical thinking but ready for action ...
    4. svd-xnumx
      svd-xnumx 30 December 2015 22: 09 New
      +3
      Did you hold an explosive bag in your hands? It is not enough to feed it to the bear, and at the same time it is still necessary that the cord burns.
      Only today at work this case was discussed with a bear, so a colleague spoke about a stray dog ​​that feeding children taught them how to catch food and which one came ... (a bad person) threw a firecracker, or an explosion pack. And now the dog walks without half its lower jaw .
      1. ed24
        ed24 31 December 2015 10: 25 New
        0
        Do you imagine it yourself? How to throw a treat to a polar bear like a dog? You are a treat for him! It’s like throwing bait for sharks on the beach, the attempted murder is with the help of a wild animal!
        1. igorka357
          igorka357 31 December 2015 11: 21 New
          +3
          It’s easy and simple to throw food into the mouth of a bear, but on our highway, loggers often deal with such things ..)) right from the cab, they just don’t eat out of the window and throw them .. straight into the mouth, so it’s easy to feed.
    5. self-propelled
      self-propelled 1 January 2016 21: 30 New
      +2
      Quote: Wend
      Well, my friend exploded in an explosive packet in a cookie, nothing happened. Deaf, bruised palms and the whole physiognomy speckled by gunpowder.

      something you, dear, .star.. three years ago (on 2013 New Year) two fingers were torn off before my friend my eyes - some .gan ... he. He threw a big firecracker into the crowd (whoever came across it - a little smaller than a bottle of Pepsi 0.33), and my friend wanted to throw it away from the children. did not have time.)
      1. shasherin.pavel
        shasherin.pavel 2 January 2016 13: 01 New
        0
        Quote: self-propelled
        my friend wanted to throw her away from the children. did not have time.

        RESPECT !!!! I knew what was going on, but not thinking about myself!
  • Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 30 December 2015 11: 17 New
    0
    Quote: Uranus
    do this with a bear

    so how is it? !!!
    about cruelty and everything else, especially compassionate ones, let them out for about five minutes next to the bear in a "free flight"
    do not let the pants change until Moscow itself
    1. igorka357
      igorka357 30 December 2015 16: 54 New
      +1
      Your habitat .. city, habitat of the polar bear of the Arctic, do not poke its territory, do not pretend to prey if not a hunter, and everything will be ok!
      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 30 December 2015 17: 27 New
        0
        then heat the house with a dung, so as not to get to the bear, by the way, you don’t need firewood either
        1. igorka357
          igorka357 31 December 2015 08: 39 New
          0
          In the Arctic, there’s no firewood smart, but in Siberia a bear where a person in the villages harvests firewood doesn’t come, or do you go from your village for 200 km to the taiga to cook firewood? Before you get smart and earn an extra plus, get acquainted with the behavior of an ordinary bear, not a connecting rod not wounded .. Bear himself does not seek to approach a person! Well, I’ll keep silent about wood heating in cities! So the dung is more in your part!
          1. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 31 December 2015 08: 42 New
            -2
            Quote: igorka357
            Well, I’ll generally keep silent about wood heating in cities! So the dung is more in your part!

            you need to include logic
            Now you heat cities with the help of oil and gas, invading the living space of animals, and since this can’t be done (Your habitat..city, habitat of the polar bear of the Arctic, do not pop into its territory) then drown dung
            1. igorka357
              igorka357 31 December 2015 11: 17 New
              +1
              Why do I drown dung, I go to the taiga with a barrel, and not with explosive packets, and my house is heated by a state that develops deposits of coal, oil and gas, to which the bear himself will not come close! Partly I agree with you about the invasion of nature, but the conversation is to put a simple person next to a polar bear ..))) so that all your arguments and in general our dispute about heating is not the point! Since it is not simple for a simple resident of the city to do it in the taiga among the bears or in the Arctic! Hunters of the beast they get it, they just mocked the bear, it could just be repelled by throwing these explosive packets when it was feeding, maybe even a bear would come once or twice, but the bear is generally a smart animal, and he wouldn’t want to listen to crackers all the time .. they did it on purpose in order to hurt the beast, not to kill him, not to protect himself from him, namely to hurt! In general, I’m not going to convince you!
              1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                Vasilenko Vladimir 31 December 2015 11: 18 New
                -3
                Quote: igorka357
                Why do I drown dung

                Well, it’s you suggesting you don’t get into the Arctic, and not me, so you’ll have to drown dung
                1. igorka357
                  igorka357 31 December 2015 13: 57 New
                  +3
                  I suggest .. I don’t put an ordinary city dweller whom you suggest running in the same cage with the bear as a bear, of course you were deceiving ..)) I didn’t say that you should not develop the Arctic .. simple people have nothing to do in the Arctic and taiga .. people who develop deposits and shelves do not belong to ordinary ordinary townspeople .. they go through TB ​​and OT .. so don’t shove me what I didn’t write! When the group goes to the taiga or to the field, then they have a gun there is one hundred percent, that’s what it was necessary to shoot, and not to dare to bomb!
                  1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                    Vasilenko Vladimir 31 December 2015 14: 55 New
                    -1
                    Quote: igorka357
                    I did not say that it is not worth developing the Arctic

                    Quote: igorka357
                    Your habitat..city, habitat of the polar bear Arctic, do not pop into its territory
  • vovanpain
    vovanpain 30 December 2015 11: 17 New
    21
    Quote: Uranus
    this is sacrilege. so do with the bear

    I agree with you that you shouldn’t do this with an animal, but the author is right, ask many who have met polar bears and they will answer you, just like Roman Skomorokhov, in no case should we feed polar bears, nor can you. that it was a provocation, the stuffing should be done by the competent authorities. There’s no fuss about the Arctic now, and very many people don’t want to see us there. So everything can be, of course, I’m sorry for the bear.
    1. vovanpain
      vovanpain 30 December 2015 11: 32 New
      12
      Quote: vovanpain
      ask many who met with polar bears and they will answer you,

      PS I made a mistake, I apologize. If they answer you after meeting with a polar bear. That's how it will be more correct. hi
      1. domokl
        domokl 30 December 2015 11: 42 New
        +3
        Quote: vovanpain
        .If they answer you, after meeting with a polar bear. Here it will be more correct.

        laughing I met in Vorkuta. More precisely, in the village of Vorgashor. Close so .. Meters with 500 ... They are there garbage dump. And I stood behind the house, watched ... Alive.
        In general, you are right.
      2. 79807420129
        79807420129 30 December 2015 12: 18 New
        +9
        Quote: vovanpain
        Quote: vovanpain
        ask many who met with polar bears and they will answer you,

        PS I made a mistake, I apologize. If they answer you after meeting with a polar bear. That's how it will be more correct. hi

        In my youth I remember meeting, not just with white, but with brown and 200 meters, I honestly admit I don’t remember how I ended up at home, and I had to throw out all my clothes, but the bear might not have run at all, the month of August was probably full, but larger polar and brown bears will always be and attack first.
  • water
    water 30 December 2015 11: 23 New
    +5
    That is, again and again, to divert from the topic of bullying people. This is what "zoodefenders" serve
  • free
    free 30 December 2015 11: 24 New
    +2
    did you read the article?
  • Pacifist
    Pacifist 30 December 2015 11: 25 New
    17
    First - blasphemy, but the rest is that you say complete dumbass. Live in a place where you are equal with them, and then reason. My father served in the Arctic for 5 years. He always had a comment about polar bears:
    1. You can not meet - do not meet;
    2. You can hide - hide;
    3. You can run away - run;
    4. You can’t 1,2,3 - shoot, do not think. The chance that you will kill is small, but at least there is a 50/50 chance to scare. If you saw him, it's already seconds. You are an easy meal for him.

    According to him, even firing was not a guarantee. The bear left more simply because it was noisy and vain. Not even in a hurry, and so, waddling.
    1. jjj
      jjj 30 December 2015 11: 49 New
      18
      The builders were building another town for the Arctic group of the Russian Armed Forces. There was also a scandal about a month ago "with non-payment of wages" and a "strike" announced in the media. Now the video has appeared. His task, as I think, is in one thing - to stir up the people against the presence in the Arctic of "bloodthirsty Russian barbarians" who are destroying nature. The Arctic, such a conclusion suggests itself after the information campaign, should belong to a democratic civilized community. And, as we can see, people hawala.
      But in the Arkhangelsk region, the case was last spring. They euthanized a polar bear, who was wandering around the village and breaking into farm buildings, and was taken away by helicopter for hundreds of kilometers. A month has passed - the bear is back. The media are silent about his future fate
      1. Victor Demchenko
        Victor Demchenko 1 January 2016 15: 23 New
        0
        yes they shot him, and they did the right thing! and the media were silent, so there was nothing to cover!
  • Rakti-kali
    Rakti-kali 30 December 2015 12: 24 New
    +2
    this is sacrilege. so do with the bear

    It's a "blasphemy" to eat cows! Start to repent, infection!
    1. sssla
      sssla 1 January 2016 21: 38 New
      +1
      Quote: Rakti-Kali
      It's a "blasphemy" to eat cows! Start to repent, infection!

      Yeah, you still set Greenpeace and all the greens on the poultry farm !!! And in general on all agriculture !! WE ARE EATING THE BODIES OF LONG TIME DEAD ANIMALS !! I have evidence !!!
      A box with the corpses of animals in cans !!!
      The state is also in the gang and in share !!
      Everything is there according to GOST !!!
  • oblako
    oblako 30 December 2015 12: 42 New
    12
    This is exactly blasphemy. Take it for granted that the white bear is stupider than the cook or this "journalist". He served on Novaya Zemlya in the air defense division in the 80s in Belushya Bay. I saw and met many times. The bear ate the explosive package - what can I say, you have to smoke something very sour ... Just in case, the fuse-package of the fuseboards burns the cord, journalist, Yeah, would you eat it, even smeared with oil? But who fell for it, he "swallowed", and who is smarter after that?) Although there are versions: 1. The northerners know that the migration routes of white bears invariably pass by the garbage dumps, so don't feed, but they will come and sniff. This circumstance is the reason for the creation of "reminders to the residents of the garrison when meeting a polar bear", there, in addition to any advice on staying calm, moving backwards to the nearest door and slowly undressing (throw off your glove there so that he would linger on sniffing while you move back to the door. ..) there is also a piece of advice - if you have an explosive package, you can throw it at the bear's feet, which probably happened, the bear got scared and ran away, maybe even got a minor injury. What is on the video - so they do not get up and without any particular reason. In general, they are the same as people in character. There are angry, and sometimes not so. Everyone knows very well about the consequences of feeding, but for the sake of a good shot, they sometimes take a can of condensed milk and risk their lives. I have such photos, though not mine. But stories about geologists eaten on an ice floe and gnawed soldiers are heard there. The bear caught me at an equal distance from the barracks and the hostel, thanks to the garbage dump with the soldier's canteen, she may have saved my life ... "I'm so sweeping")))) Fake this story with the eaten explosive package is unambiguous.
  • arnulla
    arnulla 30 December 2015 14: 39 New
    -2
    This is not blasphemy, this is ordinary cruelty. Or sadism, from which some people enjoy. And judging by the number of minuses put down to you, there are many on the site who consider such a mockery of the bear, the costs of exploring the North.
  • Oml
    Oml 30 December 2015 15: 15 New
    +1
    And with cows, pigs, chickens and .....
  • Lexa-149
    Lexa-149 30 December 2015 23: 09 New
    +1
    Now you too
    calculated and recorded by everyone who got into this story with their comments and likes. Each. And, most likely, taken into account and put in the daddy "for the future."
  • Kupez4
    Kupez4 1 January 2016 14: 04 New
    0
    Watch the movie "Race to Extinction". I hope you will change your opinion on what is happening AT ALL. And here's another http://www.delphinidae.ru/publ/rodina_princa_datskogo_koshmar_dlja_delfino
    v_i_ki

    tov / 11-1-0-129
  • Nick
    Nick 1 January 2016 14: 09 New
    +2
    Quote: Uranus
    this is sacrilege. so do with the bear

    Blasphemy is written with "O", but this is not your main problem. You have a major problem with your brains.
  • ochakow703
    ochakow703 1 January 2016 15: 06 New
    +2
    Come on, let's talk about savagery and sacrilege to weave. But the dill of Donbass watered hail, so nothing, there is not so much screech. And the Americans smashed half the world into the mud, also not impressive ... The teddy bear is more important, he is Russian, and the evil Russians taught him.
  • Semyonych
    Semyonych 2 January 2016 09: 13 New
    +2
    Uran
    this is sacrilege. so do with the bear

    It’s a pity to look at the wounded beast, of course, because the cook is a scoundrel, he didn’t want to become a dinner for the bear, but we were not there, we don’t know the background and therefore there will be enough howls. And you need to learn a grammar, otherwise there are four mistakes in one sentence.
  • DIVAN SOLDIER
    DIVAN SOLDIER 30 December 2015 10: 55 New
    -16 qualifying.
    The author of the article has revealed a world conspiracy! The "partners" killed the bear to frame Russia. What kind of nonsense is the author, most not funny?
    1. Phantom Revolution
      Phantom Revolution 30 December 2015 11: 03 New
      +8
      Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER
      The author of the article has revealed a world conspiracy! The "partners" killed the bear to frame Russia. What kind of nonsense is the author, most not funny?

      Well, the good hype was fanned because of this event, but it’s a pity the animal, but in Syria, Ukraine and other troubled places, there are more bloody crimes where a person kills a person.
    2. Igor39
      Igor39 30 December 2015 11: 09 New
      +8
      Hike now bears under the auspices of "partners" will declare independence and the separation of their habitat from Russia, the vote will be conducted by Greenpeace, by analogy with the Crimea, kapets provocation laughing
      1. amber-50
        amber-50 30 December 2015 12: 17 New
        +7
        Once again you are convinced that these so-called "animal protectors" are like corrupt whores who pays and has. That they are trying to protect the goat (food for the tiger), then the bear from humans. Soon it will come to the point that they will begin to protect broiler chickens and pigs in the slaughterhouse ...
    3. free
      free 30 December 2015 11: 26 New
      +3
      the impression that you have psaki of the brain, where the author claims that the bear is killed and even more so partners?
    4. Imperialkolorad
      Imperialkolorad 30 December 2015 11: 42 New
      +3
      Quote: DIVAN SOLDIER
      The author of the article has revealed a world conspiracy! The "partners" killed the bear to frame Russia. What kind of nonsense is the author, most not funny?

      It is necessary to read the article more carefully, and not immediately write angry posts. Less to you, in short.
    5. Banshee
      30 December 2015 11: 48 New
      +5
      The author is not funny, because he reads such nonsense from people who did not deign to read the material at least through a line.

      Nobody killed a bear, the bear is alive.

      And you, apparently, out of 160 thousand "filtered". My condolences.
      1. not Russian
        not Russian 30 December 2015 12: 06 New
        +6
        And it seems to these patrons of the nature of the giraffe in Copenhagen that they feel sorry?
        1. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 1 January 2016 08: 01 New
          +4
          Quote: non-Russian
          And it seems to these patrons of the nature of the giraffe in Copenhagen that they feel sorry?

          We feel sorry for that giraffe ... Yes, and with the children it was not necessary to take it in portioned pieces ...
          1. Victor Demchenko
            Victor Demchenko 1 January 2016 15: 27 New
            0
            good good good
            no words like this in our opinion!
    6. 2С5
      2С5 30 December 2015 12: 25 New
      +3
      ... dear DIVAN! You should at least have looked at this program more closely ... the bear is a reason for the meeting, but to what end some "human rights activists" have agreed in the end leads to very non-optimistic reflections ... they say, if everyone felt the inevitability of just retribution, then kaneshna would not have done this, but due to the imperfection of our Constitution, the Criminal Code and the judicial system, the majority has dissolved and finally it would be time to start putting things in order like in normal civilized countries, etc., etc. ... this is nonsense, but nonsense provocative and there is a certain category of the population that picks up all this and begins to procrastinate ...
    7. 2С5
      2С5 30 December 2015 12: 36 New
      +4
      ... and this category, which is constantly mumbled with something and always dissatisfied with something, is a fertile ground for all sorts of foundations, factions, sects, and other organizations that are conducting an information war in Russia ... just think with your head that those who are interested can lead from a completely trifling incident, but covered by the media ... the recent visit of "amero-human rights defenders of international law" to the Urals, to the closed military-industrial complex objects, where did it start? There was a stuffing about an increase in the number of children with cancer in the Sverdlovsk region and oops! Americans, deeply concerned about the health of Russian children, are right there! But in addition to healthy people who turned them right at the airport, they were met by little people with placards and attempts to fart something like thank you, dear ones that came to treat us and observe the ecology, otherwise, without you, the fierce death will overtake everyone ...
  • WE ARE MAKING
    WE ARE MAKING 30 December 2015 10: 57 New
    +5
    I heard that a firecracker was thrown at the bear and it was badly damaged. I am sorry for the bear, and the freak who threw the firecracker must be punished. It is difficult to draw other conclusions from this situation.
    1. Time
      Time 30 December 2015 11: 23 New
      -9
      ... Or so; throw a firecracker, throw it at the bear СеАРАеМсЯ - to see how the freak will run for a short time and which of them will suffer, fuck and sit down to drink tea ...
      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 30 December 2015 11: 25 New
        +9
        translate what you wrote
    2. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 30 December 2015 11: 25 New
      +3
      Quote: AGAIN
      I heard that a firecracker was thrown at the bear and it was badly damaged ... It is difficult to draw other conclusions from this situation.

      and think about it?
      1. 2С5
        2С5 30 December 2015 12: 40 New
        +1
        .and think about it?.

        ... and why? It’s a pity for the bear, as the aunt from the TV said and the uncle wrote from the Internet, you have to think yourself and draw conclusions, strain the subcortex ...
    3. Armax
      Armax 30 December 2015 11: 45 New
      +2
      Quote: AGAIN
      I heard that a firecracker was thrown at the bear and it was badly damaged. I am sorry for the bear, and the freak who threw the firecracker must be punished. It is difficult to draw other conclusions from this situation.

      I agree, if you need to kill the dispersed beast, shoot,
      why mock, to enclose an explosive pack in food and shoot on camera!
      Livestock farming in Russia was never encouraged.
      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 30 December 2015 11: 47 New
        +4
        Quote: ArMax
        put food into the explosive package and shoot on camera!

        Well, now they even remove the process in the toilet (unfortunately)
        and about the first one you are one hundred percent sure, so trust our journalists?
        1. Armax
          Armax 30 December 2015 12: 30 New
          +1
          Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
          well, now they’re even removing the process in the toilet

          In your opinion is this the norm?

          Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
          and about the first one you are one hundred percent sure, so trust our journalists?

          There are all kinds of journalists, that’s not the point.
          The man did not just want to kill the beast, but wanted to mock, recorded on camera, had fun.
          And this is psychopathology.
          PS The minus is not mine.
          1. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 30 December 2015 12: 54 New
            0
            Quote: ArMax
            In your opinion is this the norm?

            you are the type of journalists who pull phrases and then distort them. The full quote was as follows "
            well, now they’re even removing the process in the toilet(Unfortunately)
            "
            Quote: ArMax
            The man did not just want to kill the beast, but wanted to mock, recorded on camera, had fun.

            what people wanted, neither you nor I, a journalist, do not know, maybe just the opposite I wanted to scare away and when I saw that everything was not so scary I decided to remove it, especially for you, I do not approve of (shooting)
            1. Armax
              Armax 30 December 2015 13: 29 New
              +1
              Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
              what people wanted neither you nor I do not know journalist

              The picture is simple, "people" did what they wanted, and we saw it.
              Everyone made a conclusion.
              Happy New Year!
              1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                Vasilenko Vladimir 30 December 2015 13: 35 New
                0
                Quote: ArMax
                and we saw it.

                what did you see?
    4. VOLCHOXURAL
      VOLCHOXURAL 30 December 2015 11: 53 New
      +4
      Quote: AGAIN
      I heard that a firecracker was thrown at the bear and it was badly damaged. I am sorry for the bear, and the freak who threw the firecracker must be punished. It is difficult to draw other conclusions from this situation.

      Apparently you heard this from the "box", like me, but I immediately had a question - what kind of pitarda could it be ??? from which such a powerful and large animal could somehow seriously suffer?
      Therefore, personally, I did not really believe in this news either, it looked more like shooting a bear that had lost its "fear", whose behavior really went beyond the natural. Sadly, but such bears really need to be shot because they are essentially already lost to nature.
    5. Evgeniy667b
      Evgeniy667b 30 December 2015 14: 12 New
      +1
      Go to Kunashir WE ARE MAKING and there is pity, feed someone with your foot, with your hand, and with everything else. They walk a lot there.
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  • Igor39
    Igor39 30 December 2015 10: 59 New
    10
    The video showed that this is not the first time people have seen a bear, and they are not overwhelmed with fear, but are filming and rejoicing like children, says a voice-over: “He kind of took a firecracker in his mouth.” No need to defend, let the guilty answer.
  • seregatara1969
    seregatara1969 30 December 2015 10: 59 New
    +2
    an order of pure water, in order to distract people from something unpleasant
  • kit-kat
    kit-kat 30 December 2015 11: 02 New
    -2
    As I understand the "author" - the bear is a big and strong animal, dangerous to humans, so there is nothing to feel sorry for. Only g .. yes can think so. In order not to enter into a long and stupid polemic, I will say only one thing - a person must live in harmony with nature, and not look at it, nature, as his property and a field for his destructive activity.
    1. Shadowcat
      Shadowcat 30 December 2015 11: 22 New
      +8
      I suggest you to be closer to this nature and not at the zoo) I want to see your agitation about harmony with nature conducted, for example, by the same bear.

      How is it there? Law of the jungle. Either you dominate or you are a snack. Either you defend your territory or it becomes a stranger.
    2. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 30 December 2015 11: 28 New
      +4
      Quote: kit-kat
      man must live in harmony with nature

      undoubtedly, only now predators sometimes disagree with this, I will not argue for often it happens through the fault of man, but when this happens, debate about the "Geneva convention"
    3. Grenader
      Grenader 30 December 2015 11: 29 New
      12
      Quote: kit-kat
      In order not to enter into a lengthy and stupid polemic, I will say only one thing - a person should live in harmony with nature, and not look at it, nature, as its property and field for its destructive activities.

      Have you tried living in harmony with a polar bear on a polar island? On the Chinese border, I ran from a brown bear faster than Usain Bolt, although I was armed with an AK-74. A polar bear in harmony with a person sees it exclusively as a sandwich. This is not a pussy or a dog, it cannot be tamed, it can only be scared or killed. If this does not make human sacrifice can not be avoided. People on Wrangel Island probably didn’t come to sunbathe and did not fish, but to do serious work.
    4. domokl
      domokl 30 December 2015 11: 32 New
      +7
      Quote: kit-kat
      man must live in harmony with nature

      Exactly. And this harmony implies not only cohabitation, but also the protection of "their" territory. And the bear is the most real "fighting" creature. Itself somehow saw how such a brown lump, without straining, caught up with a collective farm horse and filled up with one blow of its front paws. Moreover, the horse flew away along the well-trodden road.
      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 30 December 2015 11: 37 New
        0
        brown can accelerate to 60 km \ h
    5. amber-50
      amber-50 30 December 2015 12: 24 New
      +2
      I would like to read your comments on the topic - the white bear demolished the floor of the skull to the cook who carried it to throw out the garbage. And for some reason I don’t doubt this stuffing.
    6. Evgeniy667b
      Evgeniy667b 30 December 2015 14: 47 New
      +3
      Respected Kit = kat Living in harmony with nature = You think everything right. But for this it is necessary to liquidate the megalopolises, to resettle people, in their own land to each, but this is just demagoguery. And how is this bear, for example, better than a cockroach? Both children of Nature and with cockroaches also need to live in harmony, following your logic. Or you have not destroyed any of their representatives in your life ??? In fact, all, without exception, those who are behind the wheel are terry killers. Reptiles, insects, not to mention more, everything is on their conscience. So, that "four-wheeled friends" must also be abandoned ... Something like that! For Harmony !!!
  • pvv113
    pvv113 30 December 2015 11: 02 New
    16
    Second, negative attention is drawn to the arctic region.

    Somewhere I already came across an article that this video was created in order to interfere with the development of the Arctic by Russia by any means, attracting the attention of the greens. hi
  • falikreutov
    falikreutov 30 December 2015 11: 03 New
    11
    I saw these "nyasheks" with my own eyes, while serving in the army, God forbid to meet with such!
  • Alex_59
    Alex_59 30 December 2015 11: 04 New
    +7
    Probably the way it is. But here in the Far East, which they crushed a bear with a jeep - is this also propaganda?
  • Hubun
    Hubun 30 December 2015 11: 04 New
    +7
    So you don’t understand who is right. Unlike the case where, laughing, a bear is crushed by a jeep
  • aleks 62 next
    aleks 62 next 30 December 2015 11: 04 New
    +4
    ... The impression about the article is somehow disgusting ... The novel probably did not consider the video well, where the bear's face is torn apart and the blood of a stream is ... This is what size the "explosive" should be ????? RGD ???? .... Dark story .... In this he is right .... And we must not forget that these are people who came to the "house" to the bear, and not vice versa ..... request
    1. Shadowcat
      Shadowcat 30 December 2015 11: 14 New
      +1
      Enough Corsair 10th


      Quote: aleks 62 next
      where the bear’s face and blood are turned around by a stream ....

      It is probably much better to see a cute bear above a bullied man, and after all, after that, he will only be killed because he will become a cannibal.
      Do you think this is better than a slightly torn muzzle that will heal?
      1. aleks 62 next
        aleks 62 next 30 December 2015 11: 21 New
        0
        .... It is probably much better to see a cute bear above a bullied man, and after all after that he will only be killed because he will become a cannibal.
        Do you think this is better than a slightly torn muzzle that will heal? ....

        .... He does not look like a cannibal (judging by the video) .... And to drive away - a simple rocket launcher is enough ..... Checked more than once ..... But about "heals" is a very big question (judging by the abundance of blood and "horse racing") ..... hi
        1. Shadowcat
          Shadowcat 30 December 2015 11: 55 New
          +2
          Quote: aleks 62 next
          Checked more than once ....

          I have never checked, I know that he doesn’t give a damn about gun shots.

          Quote: aleks 62 next
          He doesn’t look like a cannibal

          This is corrected by the first bullied person

          Quote: aleks 62 next
          But about "heals" is a very big question

          This little bundle will not hurt him much. Just stunned. They shot the brown one in due time, they planted five bullets before he fell. And then they finished off at point blank range.
  • cyberhanter
    cyberhanter 30 December 2015 11: 05 New
    +1
    Tell me, Roman, what year were the polar bears in the Ukhta Zoo? I know that they were, but I didn’t find them
    1. Banshee
      30 December 2015 11: 50 New
      0
      In a very distant 1985 ...
  • Shadowcat
    Shadowcat 30 December 2015 11: 05 New
    12
    People eat meat, wear fur and leather goods and condemn the killing of animals and fishing.

    The predator has a habitat and territory where it lives, hunts and feels at ease. And if he gets into the habit of walking into the territory, sooner or later he will try "is this a bipedal bag of meat food?" So we must discourage, and discourage only by hurting. How are pets trained? They poke their noses on a cute kitty when she is full in the middle of the house. But she also hurts. They beat a stupid dog who dared to rush at a person with a stick. And for what? not to do that anymore.
    Firecrackers harm a bear? haha seven times. Yes, a brown bear does not immediately fill up with a gun. And so weaned from a bad place.
  • Decathlon
    Decathlon 30 December 2015 11: 06 New
    27
    He sounded 21 years in Kolyma and Chukotka himself, met with a polar bear, watched, scared off, witnessed the illegal transport of skins on the Magadan-Anchorage flight, but, in my opinion, this whole story with detailed circumstances is a salty water! Calculation for an exalted audience and representatives of the female part of the population who did not have to deal with these animals. And, I had a case, so I have the right to make a judgment! Emotionally, but somehow ... hiBy the way, no one would like to experience the range of sensations when this "fluffy beauty" knocks out the door into the beams in the middle of the night ?! I dare to assure you: everything that burns, rattles and shoots is used ...
    1. kit-kat
      kit-kat 30 December 2015 11: 09 New
      -19 qualifying.
      But because of such "men" on the planet there are several thousand species (species, Karl, SPECIES !!!) of animals missing.
      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 30 December 2015 11: 42 New
        0
        Tell me, did you have any animal business (any)?
        1. kit-kat
          kit-kat 30 December 2015 11: 48 New
          -11 qualifying.
          There is no need to make a gross logical error and transfer the conversation to another channel. Logic passed in the school?
          1. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 30 December 2015 11: 54 New
            +2
            but I don’t translate, as a rule, people who argue about the correct behavior of a person with animals have no personal experience in communicating with fauna at all and reason exclusively from the perspective of emotions, so the question is in the subject, but your answer is just not very
            1. kit-kat
              kit-kat 30 December 2015 12: 01 New
              -7
              Those. In your opinion, you need to come to the forest, as to your home and if you see a beast - immediately kill? If a stranger comes to your house and piles on the table, you will be indignant, right? And in the forest to the bear - this is normal. And then he’ll move his legs, kill or throw a firecracker - everything is fine. What has it to do with it, haven't seen a live bear? if you saw, then you were given the automatic right to kill the animal? Absurd.
              1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                Vasilenko Vladimir 30 December 2015 12: 06 New
                +5
                Quote: kit-kat
                Those. In your opinion, you need to come to the forest, as to your home and if you see a beast - immediately kill?

                I’m interested, you just don’t understand or show off, by the way, when by mistake you meet a bill hooker you’ll dream about it
                Quote: kit-kat
                If a stranger comes to your house and piles on the table, you will be indignant, right? And in the forest to the bear - this is normal.

                it’s clear that you don’t even know about animals from books
                Quote: kit-kat
                What has it to do with it, haven't seen a live bear?

                before you write nonsense, study the topic
                who will you forgive by profession?
                1. kit-kat
                  kit-kat 30 December 2015 12: 13 New
                  -4
                  I’m interested, you just don’t understand or show off, by the way, when by mistake you meet a bill hooker you’ll dream about it

                  I'll meet with a cleaver, so what? Need to walk with a gun? No matter how many he walked through the Novgorod forests, the cleaver never attacked, only hearing a man - they scatter. No need to sneak in the woods - not scouting. You need to loudly declare yourself, so that animals are not afraid, when they are afraid - they can attack. A connoisseur of wildlife and "scary beasts" like you should know this. You don't need to know my profession. And from books, by the way, you can also get useful information.
                  1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                    Vasilenko Vladimir 30 December 2015 12: 47 New
                    +1
                    Quote: kit-kat
                    I'll meet the billhook, so what?

                    at best, change your underpants
                    Quote: kit-kat
                    only after hearing a person - scatter

                    yes you what ?!
                    far from always such joy happens
                    Quote: kit-kat
                    A connoisseur of wildlife and "scary beasts" like you should know this

                    unfortunately, this does not always work out, sometimes there is rutting, sometimes when you come across a brood with your mother, etc. etc.
                    Quote: kit-kat
                    You don’t need to know my profession

                    why?! I didn’t mean anything bad, I just think that when you argue with someone about your profession, you don’t have an idea about it, you will send it
                    Quote: kit-kat
                    And from books, by the way, you can also draw useful information.

                    possible but far from always and very often not true
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                  3. faridg7
                    faridg7 30 December 2015 15: 23 New
                    +2
                    Quote: kit-kat
                    I'll meet with a cleaver, so what? Need to walk with a gun? No matter how many he walked through the Novgorod forests, the cleaver never attacked, only hearing a man - they scatter. No need to sneak in the woods - not scouting. You need to loudly declare yourself, so that animals are not afraid, when they are afraid - they can attack. A connoisseur of wildlife and "scary beasts" like you should know this. You don't need to know my profession. And from books, by the way, you can also get useful information.
                    Here, in general, the topic is about a polar bear, and so when he heard a person he doesn’t run away, but he goes to try on a tooth — is it not edible? He has no enemies in nature to be afraid of, so your noise will only attract.
                    I’m confused about all this hype by such a thing - in the posts of this Galina, except for howling about a dipper, that they squeezed people’s salary, but no one was outraged about this. People are not interested in anyone.
              2. Evgeniy667b
                Evgeniy667b 30 December 2015 15: 21 New
                0
                Forest, in principle, is our home by and large. I had a meeting with the bear, even once at a short distance of about 5 meters. Neither a gun nor a knife was one tongue, I chatted him shorter, they dispersed calmly. I recalled the story of an elderly woman geologist. She also resolved the situation in this way. The bear was still young and well-fed. Another probably would not stand on ceremony. The science was concrete, entering the forest, turn your head 360 degrees and listen! Although this is also not a guarantee., The most important thing is not to give out adrenaline, animals feel it.
    2. domokl
      domokl 30 December 2015 11: 35 New
      +2
      The right gives one meeting with these good animals in their habitat. Once I sweated and emotions for the rest of my life .. I know for myself. So, plus you deserved from me.
      1. kit-kat
        kit-kat 30 December 2015 12: 05 New
        -6
        Well, what did you want? In the forest, you know, bears are found, while not all "real men" have exterminated yet. Not in zoos. They come to the zoo from the forest. You have to be careful in the forest.
  • Gall_st
    Gall_st 30 December 2015 11: 06 New
    +4
    I would like to Human remained a man and was responsible for his ill-conceived actions. And no need to seek a conspiracy in this.
  • Woodman
    Woodman 30 December 2015 11: 08 New
    +4
    I also somehow saw a bear, though it’s brown in the forest, but the second time I definitely don’t want such a meeting.
  • Stalnov I.P.
    Stalnov I.P. 30 December 2015 11: 13 New
    +2
    A strange article, poured a tub of slops and it is unclear on whom, on the people who defended the BEAR, they did so right that they defended, remember those goats in Altai who were shot, by the way, they are listed in the Red Book, but GOD punished the shooters, the helicopter crashed, they say we went to shoot not only "goats", but also a snow leopard, and there are only 50 of them left, nature must be protected. If WE can’t protect nature, I’m not talking about power at all, the power shot at the poor GOATS, then the Almighty is punishes such shooters. It is not the bear that is to blame, but the man who behaved stupidly, here is the answer to the author.
  • ilija93
    ilija93 30 December 2015 11: 14 New
    +3
    We have people, including children, being blown up, alas, not in the northern latitudes.
    After watching the report, I had a glimpse of why it’s not a military man, even a cook, and why not a lemon in the ass of a bear. In general, the report blew, not the freshness of the Arctic. There were not a few questions, but it was not in the subject.
    Thanks for the article, a lot has fallen into place.
    It’s a pity for the bear, it’s a pity for those whom the bears eat, it’s a pity that the bears do not eat only morons, it’s a pity that people and animals don’t speak the same language ....
  • FIREMAN
    FIREMAN 30 December 2015 11: 14 New
    +7
    http://www.mk.ru/incident/2015/12/23/ranenoy-vzryvpaketom-v-arktike-medvedice-ud

    alos-vyzhit-rasskazala-avtor-video.html

    Here is a link to an article in MK, where we talked with all the participants in the situation. Chef, he's talking nonsense about some general.
    Before the establishment of the factual circumstances, one can only guess: on purpose - not on purpose. Let the relevant structures conduct an audit and accordingly will be rewarded with the letter of the law.
    In one, I agree that a fed bear with a teddy bear in the camp is not a toy or a piece of furniture, but a dangerous predator.
  • uhu189
    uhu189 30 December 2015 11: 14 New
    +1
    Roman, do you seriously think that 163000 signatures in defense of one bear are a weighty argument that could affect Russia's development of the Arctic? Of course, I understand that the United States is far from our friend, but to see the intrigues of the United States in every nonsense is already symptoms of paranoia. I can agree with some of your arguments, but putting everything under the idea of ​​calculating the resource environment with the aim of its subsequent use in protest moods is far-fetched, to put it mildly. Too complicated and sophisticated. Offer people in the provinces 1000 rubles a day for participating in a rally - there will be no end to those who want to, without any such "provocations." In our country, the authorities themselves are doing everything to make such protests occur more and more often, and you are looking for traces of the State Department ...
    1. Genry
      Genry 30 December 2015 11: 36 New
      -2
      It is clear that you are the first to run to these protests, blaming everyone in a row.
      There is a "fifth column" and you are closer to it than to the whole people.
      1. uhu189
        uhu189 30 December 2015 11: 53 New
        +2
        I am amazed at your "perspicacity", at a moment they saw through and made conclusions and hung a label ...
      2. Banshee
        30 December 2015 11: 57 New
        +6
        Quote: uhu189
        Roman, do you seriously think that 163000 signatures in support of a single bear are powerful arguments that can affect Russia's exploration of the Arctic?


        No, I do not think so.

        Quote: uhu189
        Of course, I understand that the United States is not our friend, but in every nonsense, seeing the machinations of the United States is symptoms of paranoia.


        Where did I ever come across the word "USA"?

        Quote: uhu189
        to bring everything under the idea of ​​calculating the resource environment for the purpose of its subsequent use in protest moods - to put it mildly, it is far-fetched.


        In Ukraine, 2013 also thought something like this. And what turned out?

        Quote: uhu189
        Offer people in the provinces 1000 rubles a day for participating in a rally - there will be no end to those wishing to, without any such "provocations." In our country, the authorities themselves are doing everything to make such protests occur more and more often, and you are looking for traces of the State Department ...


        I'm not looking for traces of the State Department. This is not the case at the State Department, the point is that the audience is being forced to aggro for any reason. Today is a bear, tomorrow something else, the day after tomorrow - power.

        And all this is not for nothing. Bummer with the Swamp has not yet canceled. Starting the All-Russian tree a month and a half after the event is surprising. And the results are surprising even here.

        Paranoia ... maybe. But better to perebdet than to get again Moscow-1991 or Kiev-2013.
        1. uhu189
          uhu189 30 December 2015 12: 29 New
          +2
          Yes, there will be no analogy with Kiev. Swamp was a fiction. Just look at the list of jerks who led it. It seems to me that you (and not only you) are waiting for danger from the wrong side, where it can come from. In Kiev, did students on the Maidan make a revolution? For some reason, it seems to me that the main role belongs to the union of oligarchic groups together with Nalyvaichenko. It was their sabotage, their media that created the conditions to paralyze Yanukovych’s will to resist. And the Maidan was just a screen, visible part of the iceberg. And now the situation is repeating itself in many ways - the same oligarchs, the same conflicts of interest, the same shrinking feeding trough, which can no longer feed everyone. This is where the stuffing similar to what you described appear ... If anything happens to us - it happens top-down, we can find out about it at all over time ...
          Naturally, this is all just my opinion, nothing more ...
        2. sniper
          sniper 30 December 2015 12: 44 New
          +5
          In fact, cruelty to animals is not a pleasant act ... I didn't even watch the video when it appeared ... Only, friends, nowhere in the article did I see that Roman admired cruelty. Thank God, I have never met bears, I live in the middle lane, but I have met wild boars. I remembered it for a long time. Serious animals, no doubt. And they may well pose a threat. It is no coincidence that there is an assertion that the "minke" (baby boar) is the most terrible animal ... No, not by itself, of course, but a mother who is always there ...
          To the topic of the article ... The one who fed the she-bear and provoked everything else deserves to be left alone with this family ... Roman's conclusions seem to me quite logical and convincing. Well, the fact that there are no places for such dangerous predators in places where people live and work, I think it can be disputed only by a person who, except for a cat, has not seen anyone next to him ... Well, somehow, in my opinion ...
        3. arnulla
          arnulla 30 December 2015 15: 04 New
          +3
          You do not confuse the soft with the sour. It's about cruelty or even sadism. You do not need to plot conspiracies everywhere. Or did the notorious chef think about the swamp when the bear was mutilated?)) Is there a fact of cruelty to animals? Yes, and there is nothing to justify for such sadistic methods. Even if someone is trying to saddle the situation with a political bias.
          1. praide
            praide 30 December 2015 16: 58 New
            -2
            Quote: arnulla
            Is there a fact of cruelty to animals? Yes, and there is nothing to justify for such sadistic methods. Even if someone is trying to saddle the situation with a political bias.

            In my opinion, Roman is a little crazy. Soon it will be, the neighbor farted loudly. But he farted FOR, or AGAINST! Someone raped, but FOR, or AGAINST?
            In the video, there is enough blood and not from the mouth, from a torn throat. Https: //www.youtube.com/watch? V = eyQ6BP2eTRs
            People have to be!not animals.
            Here the eagle just killed more than 1000 dogs http://gazeta13.ru/7898_vo_vladivostoke_vynesli_prigovor_doghanteru_ubivshemu_bo

            lee_1000_sobak_glavred, a fine of 20 thousand rubles.
            Maybe we’ll start to hang kittens in spite of the State Department?
            1. VOLCHOXURAL
              VOLCHOXURAL 30 December 2015 19: 29 New
              0
              Quote: praide

              In the video, there is enough blood and not from the mouth, from a torn throat. Https: //www.youtube.com/watch? V = eyQ6BP2eTRs
              People have to be!not animals.

              Well, for example, another opinion -
    2. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 2 January 2016 17: 53 New
      0
      Quote: uhu189
      Roman, do you seriously think that 163000 signatures in defense of one dipper are a powerful argument that could affect Russia's development of the Arctic? Of course, I understand that the United States is far from being a friend to us, but to see the machinations of the United States in every nonsense is already a symptom of paranoia.

      You know that if we have a white bear in the Red Book, then in Alaska it is a hunting object, for which shooting up to 500 licenses are issued per year. The fact that this bear was crippled due to "human foolishness" is certainly bad, but no one has yet thoroughly figured out this incident. Was there another opportunity to ward off the beast?
      There is no doubt that with the development of the Arctic, the number of encounters between a man and a bear will only increase, and, accordingly, the number of cases of shooting bears will increase by an order of magnitude. However, the fact that the "necessary signal" sounded from the mouth of the animal rights activist looks like an order, and the fact that a certain friend of hers was running to the ends of the earth for a video fact only confirms that this order was not badly funded (I wonder who and from what sources). It’s hard to believe in altruism, but not a healthy "interest", against the background of the expansion of the Russian military presence in the Arctic, is visible.
      When Russia began construction of the port in Ust-Luga, suddenly in the wilderness of forests and swamps, one of the many, but very small peoples of the North (I don’t remember exactly how many of them, but something about 200-300 people) raised a voice of protest - they say, we are against for our fish lands suffer from adversaries. Immediately, like devils from a test tube, representatives of the Baltic states appeared and demanded to stop the "arbitrariness" and not genocide the people of the Finno-Ugric branch, otherwise they (the Balts) in Europe will raise the issue and sue the Russians in the ECHR. It turned out that the construction of the port in Ust-Luga and the expansion of its terminals do not affect the fishery of small people in any way, but it significantly reduces the transshipment of goods through the Baltic ports and poses an economic threat to them. They don’t need this people for nothing, but they can use it in their own interests in full, and you say “paranoia”.
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 30 December 2015 11: 16 New
    +5
    163 people did not understand at all what happened

    I want to say not about a specific case, because. read about him briefly. I agree with the author that often, without waiting for a trial on a certain fact, the perpetrators are appointed. The Internet audience seethes and cries out for justice and accountability. After the trial, when nothing is confirmed, or it is partially confirmed and not what was posted, the audience quietly falls silent, as if it was not she who had shouted loudly a few days ago: "Everyone to answer."
    1. rotmistr60
      rotmistr60 30 December 2015 12: 05 New
      +6
      For minusers - I’m writing not about the bear, but about those who are in a hurry to express their, sometimes radical, opinion. I will give an example with the crash of our plane in Egypt. There were so many curses on the airline and various calls to punish those who make them fly old planes. As soon as it was announced that this was a terrorist attack, those who accused the airline of all sins calmly switched to terrorists.
  • guzik007
    guzik007 30 December 2015 11: 20 New
    11
    Well, as always with Skomorokhov, with all due respect, politics comes first. and not a single thought about what leads to such tragedies.
    Firstly: Wrangel’s island is a natural maternity hospital umki and even when laying the base it was necessary to think out not how convenient for the warriors, but how not to be on the migration routes of the bear. (There’s not even a decent fence)
    secondly: strict regulation of the behavior of all employees in relation to a predator (as we see there is complete gouging and babble of the head of environmental protection in this regard, only exacerbates the situation)
    thirdly: we have come, I hope, to the Arctic forever and with expansion, and if measures are not taken now, then the fragile nature will be completely destroyed. Without any political background.
    And the reason for such criticism, unfortunately, is given precisely by the leadership of the Arctic grouping; otherwise, strict instructions and those punished for their non-compliance would already be.
    The bear episode is probably only one numerous, I am sure, in a series of barbaric attitudes towards nature. Recently, in my opinion, twenty carcasses of walruses were killed on the Chukotka coast. They were killed only to remove the phallus bone! I do not blame anyone, but knowing firsthand the local population, I will never admit even the thought of such barbarism on their part.
    And you don’t have to assure me that the high inspection authorities will not make up their inspection trips for the mass arrival of migratory living creatures — I have looked enough!
    So, it all depends on the level of culture of the newcomers of the North in the person of the military (unfortunately). And I would like to see the revival of the civilian population of these territories, as in my distant childhood and youth. And not what we see now - from a hole gas-oil hits everything until it ends, but after us at least a flood, and the descendants will be killed somehow.

    RS A bear is admired and respected! You can see on this unpleasant shoot. How fast he is furious, sometimes he just doesn’t keep track of the blurred movements, the eye! And many have an erroneous popular opinion about a leisurely good-natured umka.
    1. Banshee
      30 December 2015 11: 59 New
      0
      Quote: guzik007
      in Skomorokhova, with all my respect politician in the first place


      Not politics, but people. Distant, I will note, from politics.

      But in the sense that the Arctic should be monitored in three eyes - I agree.
    2. science fiction writer
      science fiction writer 30 December 2015 12: 04 New
      0
      So, it all depends on the level of culture of the newcomers of the North in the person of the military (unfortunately).

      I completely agree with swami, if anyone is executed for this, then only the authorities of this
      building settlements, well, the punisher is to punish (slightly) for the wit of others.
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  • Masya masya
    Masya masya 30 December 2015 11: 20 New
    +5
    I remembered the film "Peculiarities of the National Hunting in Winter", so the ardent protector of animals, after meeting with the bear, radically changed her beliefs ... I would like to see G. Oskolkova after such a meeting ...
    1. Alex_59
      Alex_59 30 December 2015 11: 32 New
      +6
      Quote: Masya Masya
      I remembered the film "Peculiarities of the National Hunting in Winter"

      And to me "How I spent this summer." The North does not forgive sloppiness and not taking a serious attitude towards oneself. It is a fact. From my own experience, any innocent foolishness in the north can trigger such a mechanism that, like a snowball, after some time will turn into an emergency, and then into a catastrophic situation. You were joking, and somewhere people died because of you.
      Personally, one thing confuses me in this story with a bear. If someone really blew it up - where did he get from there in the north? The north of such people usually squeezes like a splinter from a wound. It is hard to believe that one of the polar explorers can have so much fun.
      1. guzik007
        guzik007 30 December 2015 12: 17 New
        +2
        If someone really blew it up - where did it come from in the north? The north of such people usually squeezes like a splinter from a wound.
        -------------------------------------------------- ---
        Plain recruited trash without a brain.
    2. Yura
      Yura 30 December 2015 12: 44 New
      +2
      Quote: Masya Masya
      I would like to see G. Oskolkova after such a meeting ...

      I would also like to look at her after that, then I thought shit in our life is not so small, and for some reason I also watch bearish things. request
  • dubak78
    dubak78 30 December 2015 11: 22 New
    0
    sheer hypocrisy. nearby, maybe the homeless is bent, but who cares? like, it's my fault. and then a bear! ..
    1. kit-kat
      kit-kat 30 December 2015 11: 51 New
      -5
      A person is always to blame for his troubles and is able to solve his problems. In addition, there are too many people. And animals suffer innocently. So, people are not sorry.
      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 30 December 2015 12: 00 New
        +1
        Quote: kit-kat
        A person is always to blame for his troubles and is able to solve his problems

        you are right, by the way people himself solved the problem with the bear
        Quote: kit-kat
        And animals suffer innocently

        far from always, although a person is really very often responsible for conflict
        Quote: kit-kat
        And animals suffer innocently.

        IRS
        that is, if you are standing in the way of a brood of wild boars, you need a wild boar to rip you apart ?!
        Quote: kit-kat
        So, people are not sorry.

        that is, if a little girl inadvertently ran into a predator then what the hell with her?
      2. praide
        praide 30 December 2015 17: 51 New
        0
        By the way, this is true - a man is the master of his fate, this concerns the homeless.
  • 24rus
    24rus 30 December 2015 11: 22 New
    +3
    People are very surprised when they remove their sometimes very ugly deeds, and then upload it to the Internet
    1. kit-kat
      kit-kat 30 December 2015 11: 58 New
      +1
      Let spread, it will be easier to catch and punish.
  • voyaka uh
    voyaka uh 30 December 2015 11: 26 New
    -2
    In my opinion, the author has obvious paranoia.

    In any single instance of human stupidity or cruelty and
    regular discussions about him in the press, the network seems to the author
    conspiracy of enemies.
    If there was a video about the martyred brown bear in the middle of the middle
    stripes of Russia, or Canada, or the United States would have flared in the same way
    heated discussion on the net.
    1. oblako
      oblako 30 December 2015 12: 54 New
      +1
      This is not torture. The bear lived, the bear is alive, the bear will live !!! I am sure that there was no malicious intent in the actions of man. He just lived there, and when a family of bears blocks people in their premises, and the task, including the combat one, is necessary, the only way out is to scare them away, but they are not afraid of anything ... they don’t react to the shots at all. A blast package under your feet is recommended.
    2. Albert1988
      Albert1988 30 December 2015 13: 38 New
      +1
      The problem is that all circumstances of what happened are still unknown!
      Maybe some "alternatively thinking" gentlemen who were present at the base irresponsibly fed the bear, and the cook tried to ward off a serious predator in this way (moreover, a bear with a bear cub - they are dangerous in twins!) And maybe not calculated with charge power.
      The problem is precisely in whipping up hysteria and a cloud of simply inadequate comments on the Internet, which call for all atrocities against the "culprit."
      This kind of exaggeration and premature accusations, escalating public hysteria, give rise to some suspicions ...
    3. arnulla
      arnulla 30 December 2015 15: 10 New
      -1
      Totally agree with you.
    4. faridg7
      faridg7 30 December 2015 15: 36 New
      +5
      Quote: voyaka uh
      In my opinion, the author has obvious paranoia

      My good friend says: If I have paranoia, this does not mean that no one is following me and I am safe.
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  • V.ic
    V.ic 30 December 2015 11: 27 New
    +5
    Exaltation of a certain category of media space takes place ... It's a fact! I advise fans of "yatii with" white and fluffy "bears to go out to explain" face to face "with them and prove their kindness and humanity with good deeds. The Greenpeace flag is in their hands! The bureau will put in, if anything remains, let the "defenders of the rights of polar bears" lead their round dances on Wrangel Island or Novaya Zemlya, only without guards with "vintars".
  • ir.semenov2011
    ir.semenov2011 30 December 2015 11: 28 New
    +1
    It’s not bad to kill, rip off skins, etc., etc., but it’s difficult to preserve, protect, leave something behind, except for garbage. The civilization of the state is determined by the attitude of this state to the weak: the elderly, children and animals. We have a bad attitude to these groups ...
  • gg.na
    gg.na 30 December 2015 11: 32 New
    +6
    The incident with the bear had a place to be! Who did this, for what, people from the investigative committee will figure it out! Those who are guilty of this will be punished under the law! Time and investigation will show who is guilty of what!
    1. kit-kat
      kit-kat 30 December 2015 11: 52 New
      -5
      The trouble is that the punishment for such crimes is extremely lenient. It is necessary to punish for the murder or bullying of wild animals (wild, I emphasize) in the same way as for the same acts against people.
      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 30 December 2015 12: 01 New
        +3
        Quote: kit-kat
        to punish as for the same acts against people.

        when you chew a patty’s conscience doesn’t torment? !!!!
        to bring you to the slaughter on an excursion
        1. Starik72
          Starik72 30 December 2015 14: 59 New
          -2
          Vasilenko Vladimir, and YOU when you pluck, bite and chew an apple, tomato, banana and other vegetation, YOU are not tormented by conscience !!! So, do not exaggerate please!
          1. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 30 December 2015 15: 08 New
            +1
            again
            my conscience does not torment me even when I cut off the goat’s head
            I'm not exaggerating, just tired of this tearful pity is not the topic
            1. Starik72
              Starik72 30 December 2015 16: 43 New
              0
              Vasilenko Vladimir. Well, it is clear who put a minus to me! And conscience doesn’t torment you when you chew a patty ??? In general, you have a conscience that is, as with this, because YOU do not torment your conscience when you cut a lamb or a goat! And about the GOAT, I realized who you mean.
              1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                Vasilenko Vladimir 30 December 2015 17: 30 New
                -2
                Quote: Starik72
                Conscience does not torment YOU when you cut a lamb or a goat!

                I do not remember that we would drink broodershaft

                and take the trouble to express it specifically, and not to smear the snot on a plate, why the stupid questions that I answered above, do you? !!!
                1. Starik72
                  Starik72 30 December 2015 20: 13 New
                  -1
                  I see that your drinking companions, with whom you drink at brotherhood, give me disadvantages. And I'm not going to drink with you for brotherhood! And yet, chewing snot YOU "Marshal", not me!
                  1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                    Vasilenko Vladimir 30 December 2015 21: 44 New
                    -1
                    and you my friend is just an ordinary HAM
                    By the way, I don’t drink - AT ALL
                    1. Starik72
                      Starik72 30 December 2015 22: 25 New
                      -4
                      All your answers speak for you more than you think of yourself! So HAM you and not me, and I did not insult you. You are the most ordinary Troll.
                      1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                        Vasilenko Vladimir 30 December 2015 22: 35 New
                        -3
                        you would have learned to express your thoughts correctly, otherwise it’s garbage
                        and you will poke a finger in your ass
              2. Vasilenko Vladimir
                Vasilenko Vladimir 30 December 2015 17: 51 New
                0
                Quote: Starik72
                And about the GOAT, I realized who you mean.

                I’m not a writer, and you are not a literary critic, therefore there is no need to look for the hidden meaning in the third comma on the fifteenth page, this means
  • zoknyay82
    zoknyay82 30 December 2015 11: 35 New
    0
    Quote: falikreutov
    I saw these "nyasheks" with my own eyes, while serving in the army, God forbid to meet with such!


    ... "God forbid to meet with such!" ... - this is not a reason for "such" brutally maim! Killing animals (and even so beastly) not for food or self-defense, but for base entertainment is disgusting!
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 30 December 2015 11: 39 New
      0
      Quote: zoknyay82
      this is not a reason for "such" to brutally maim! Killing animals (and so beastly)

      damn "defenders", do you have any idea what you are writing about, you will bake you to the bear and push the live wire into the mouth, well, if you have time of course
      by the way, 99% of "defenders" of animals see any kind exclusively on TV
      1. kit-kat
        kit-kat 30 December 2015 11: 56 New
        -6
        Are you pretending to be or are you really not friends with your head? Can't believe that there are people who really treat animals with respect? What have I seen, not seen? What education do you have? And if it’s also a hunter, then everything is clear - a mental disorder of 100% Because modern people (especially those with a computer) do not need to hunt for food, but only to satisfy sadistic needs.
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 30 December 2015 12: 11 New
          0
          Quote: kit-kat
          Are you pretending to be or are you really not friends with your head? Can't believe that there are people who really treat animals with respect?

          firstly, apparently unlike you with animals, I state 24 hours a day, respect respect, but in the wild there are three positions, either you are food, or a competitor, or food
          Yes, you can sometimes go wild, but if the animal believes that you are stuck in its zone then ...
          Quote: kit-kat
          What education do you have?

          physics department
          Quote: kit-kat
          And if you’re also a hunter, then everything is clear - a mental disorder of 100%

          not a hunter, although I live on a farm, it makes no sense meat runs in the paddock, I perceive hunting only as prey for food
          Quote: kit-kat
          hunting is not necessary to obtain food, but only to satisfy sadistic needs.

          Are you not a vegetarian for an hour ?! just slaughtering pets is also an inconvenience to cattle
      2. arnulla
        arnulla 30 December 2015 15: 13 New
        0
        And what, does someone bear, in this situation, bake?
      3. self-propelled
        self-propelled 1 January 2016 22: 32 New
        -1
        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
        damn "defenders", do you have any idea what you are writing about, you will bake you to the bear and push the live wire into the mouth, well, if you have time of course

        when he lays - what you can’t imagine. that's just about "film a video" (and even with comments during the shooting) you think when at home and the tremor passed ...
    2. Albert1988
      Albert1988 30 December 2015 13: 40 New
      0
      Quote: zoknyay82
      . "God forbid to meet with such!" ... - this is not a reason for "such" brutally maim! Killing animals (and even so beastly) not for food or self-defense, but for base entertainment is disgusting!

      First, you need to establish that he was "brutally maimed" just like that, and not when trying to drive away or scare away.
    3. V.ic
      V.ic 30 December 2015 13: 53 New
      -1
      Quote: zoknyay82
      Killing animals (and even so brutally) is not for food or self-defense, but for low-level entertainment, it's disgusting!

      "Fly swatter", "Velcro", "Raid" outlaw! Applicants of the indicated barbaric means in the dock! Freedom for mosquitoes, gadflies and other nasty things! Prohibit the use of repellents!
      1. zoknyay82
        zoknyay82 30 December 2015 14: 40 New
        +2
        Why exaggerate? I don't kill flies and mosquitoes for pleasure. Unlike helicopter hunters. If I am tempted to hunt, I take my camera and go into the forest. I shoot at "give". Don't kill wild animals for fun! Well, if not at all, the world is full of people - scum terrorists, etc.
  • arnulla
    arnulla 30 December 2015 11: 35 New
    -1
    I am violet on the author of the article and on his opinion on this issue. But the torment of the bear is clearly and clearly visible on the video. And only a complete sadist or a creature with some substance instead of a brain could do this with an animal. Or an unwise person by nature. A human being is rational, and this differs from the same bears. Almost always you can find a way to somehow disperse with the predator. And scare it all the more. It is unlikely that there was not even a single rifled gun ... From the attitude to the same animals, one can also judge the attitude towards people.
    1. Banshee
      30 December 2015 12: 00 New
      -1
      Quote: arnulla
      I violet on the author of the article and on his opinion on this issue.


      Mutually, dear, mutually.
      1. arnulla
        arnulla 30 December 2015 14: 08 New
        +3
        For those who are intelligent in the tank, people as creatures almost always have the opportunity to solve the problem without cruelty to the animal. As I understand it, the action takes place in an area where 100% of someone has a gun. Surely there are signal flares. That is a bunch of options. Therefore, I never understand such methods ... Animals never kill each other for fun, just to feed themselves or to protect. And only a person to amuse themselves. And yet, in relation to the elderly and animals, there is much to say society.
        1. VS
          VS 1 January 2016 09: 30 New
          0
          There are guns and the terrain is not deserted and the bears are not teased ...

    2. Albert1988
      Albert1988 30 December 2015 13: 46 New
      0
      Quote: arnulla
      I am violet on the author of the article and on his opinion on this issue. But the torment of the bear is clearly and clearly visible on the video.

      Yes, they are visible, but not the degree of damage is visible (the jaw, by the way, seems to be in place, that is, it did not fly out of the joints), the moment itself is not seen when the she-bear swallowed / took explosives into her mouth, so we can talk about brutal treatment only when all the details of the incident are installed.
    3. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 30 December 2015 15: 04 New
      -2
      Quote: arnulla
      And to scare them all the more. It is unlikely that there was not a single rifle at least ... From the attitude to the same animals, one can judge the attitude towards people.

      Have you tried to escape from an aggressive animal?
      1. arnulla
        arnulla 30 December 2015 15: 37 New
        -2
        Are you dumb or real ..? What does "run away" have to do with it? Where does it say that a lured bear was chasing someone? The action takes place at the base, not in a desert area !! Finally, include logic ...
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 30 December 2015 16: 10 New
          -1
          Quote: arnulla
          Where does it say that a lured bear was chasing someone?

          Are you seriously?
          you’re food for the bear and not otherwise, therefore do not write garbage
          The action takes place at the base, not in the desert !! Turn on the logic finally ...
          nevermind bear where to eat you
          1. arnulla
            arnulla 30 December 2015 22: 42 New
            0
            Apparently, I guessed right. You really ...))) We are discussing a specific situation, and you generalize and exaggerate. This is called-moved off topic. And the logic for you, apparently, is generally pseudoscience))
            1. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 30 December 2015 22: 45 New
              -3
              Quote: arnulla
              We talk about a specific situation.

              what about ?!
              Do you know the situation from start to finish ?!
              if so, from whom ?!
              Quote: arnulla
              This is called-moved off topic.

              once again, you jump off the topic
              Quote: arnulla
              And the logic for you, apparently, is generally pseudoscience))

              so you are not friends with logic, "the bear did not chase after anyone", from what did you "logically" deduce this ?!
            2. Starik72
              Starik72 1 January 2016 21: 58 New
              -2
              Damir. Don’t argue with this, Vasilenko, if we speak the simple language of a LIVER, and for him there is no morality.
              1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                Vasilenko Vladimir 1 January 2016 22: 16 New
                0
                Quote: Starik72
                LIVING HOUSE, and for him there is no morality

                you either prove or apologize ?!
                ps it’s funny to say a flayer to a man who has 3 cats and 2 dogs in his house, and he picked up one dog and two cats on the street when they died
                1. Starik72
                  Starik72 1 January 2016 22: 37 New
                  -3
                  I read this hour on the Internet, the cook may face up to 7 years! I apologize to the LIVER, you are not worthy of THEM.
                2. Starik72
                  Starik72 2 January 2016 03: 02 New
                  -1
                  Listen, YOU, a man who has 3 cats and 2 dogs in his house WILL NEVER EVER protect a "man" who mocks animals, So straighten, as the people say. You know, but the TRUTH, it hurts your eyes!
                  1. Vasilenko Vladimir
                    Vasilenko Vladimir 2 January 2016 07: 27 New
                    0
                    you will poke a finger in your ass, hamlo tram
                    1. Starik72
                      Starik72 2 January 2016 12: 55 New
                      0
                      Here YOU responded and showed his true face. So which of us is YOU or I?
  • raid14
    raid14 30 December 2015 11: 38 New
    +6
    I read some comments on the Internet all the time, threats, calls to the Lynch trial, so they do not advocate for people.
    The topic is really overblown, a repost in the media, collection of signatures as punishment for "fanatics", in fact, if there is a composition of Art. Receive 245 of the Criminal Code and sign, no, the news is not worth attention.
    In view of the current economic situation, the level of aggression in society has risen noticeably and it looks like a "touchstone" to see the reaction of a skillfully warmed-up crowd.
    The same "Makar" organized "Arab revolutions", the deterioration of the economic situation, active media propaganda, the withdrawal of the fifth column "from the underground" to the streets, the organization of provocations, the beaten "babies", fire on the crowd and the police.
  • triglav
    triglav 30 December 2015 11: 43 New
    +1
    The author is absolutely right: the noodles are already at the feet - there are so many of them. And about the fact that a person specifically went to a closed zone for the video, and even a month and a half after what happened. From the video, it’s not clear what really happened. The bear is not, and he will not chew the package. And was there a package at all? But those who fed him, really,.
  • Goldmitro
    Goldmitro 30 December 2015 11: 45 New
    +2
    Quote: Alexey Bukin
    The "excuse" began. The author of the article is apparently the only one who knows exactly the essence of the matter.

    Before his chest gets in the way of the supposedly scattering fan, the author needs to watch a video of how a bloody bear writhes in pain! And who and what and when threw him - this is the tenth thing! This should not be forgiven for lovers of such sadistic "entertainment", including the author of the video, to whom, obviously. it was a pleasure to shoot the bear's agony for the sake of the opportunity to become famous on the internet!
  • Sergey Guriev
    Sergey Guriev 30 December 2015 11: 48 New
    -2
    If a person has an emptiness in his head, all dirt gets there. For example, the idea of ​​"non-Ukrainians for knives" or the protection of yard dogs. The level of thinking and aggression is about the same. The stuffing about a polar bear is designed specifically to create an audience that can be easily controlled, since those who fell for the brains and decided that the bear is more important than the safety of people, by definition, do not. There is a wild hatred for people, and this unites them. For those who call for "harmony with nature" I can advise you to abandon the benefits of civilization and live in harmony, so to speak. True, child mortality is more than 40%, illness, sudden death in someone's stomach, life expectancy of about 20 years, etc. Want to? I am afraid that none of those who sigh for an innocently killed bear and harmony with nature will not give up the achievements of man in the struggle with this very nature. They will still enjoy all the benefits of civilization, but to understand that a person himself created his own world of habitation, different and strong from natural conditions, a meager mind is not enough. In my head there is one harmony with nature, the bear is not blameworthy and the man himself is the source of evil. If you want to fight the evil of humanity as such, start with yourself. If there is a threat to human life because of an animal, then the priority of interests is only for the person and not otherwise.
    1. arnulla
      arnulla 30 December 2015 14: 15 New
      +2
      Using benefits implies the sadism we saw in the video ?!
      1. Sergey Guriev
        Sergey Guriev 30 December 2015 21: 41 New
        +1
        The video shows the consequences of a concussion, which later passed without any special health consequences. An alternative to this is only the destruction of the bear. "Kish" and "go out" have no effect in this case. What alternative could be according to your opinion. The presence of a bear will sooner or later lead to the death of people.
        1. arnulla
          arnulla 30 December 2015 22: 50 New
          +1
          If the situation is such that there is nothing without destruction, then this must be done quickly, and so that the animal does not suffer. This is the first. The second, the same bear was fed earlier, that is, taught to go to people. These same people, mind you. And third. - Is the bear's blood "without any special consequences" called? Interesting "contusion" ... If the muzzle is injured, how can she hunt? Moreover, the bear also has a bear.
  • skat
    skat 30 December 2015 11: 49 New
    +3
    they are in the Arctic. There is such a nation everywhere, but the author, in my opinion, has bent. To identify the exalted and organize marches against our presence in the Arctic is cool. But there is a lot of blood and Misha is sorry. Those who did it, because no matter what kind of killing machine there was no bear, he is on his territory and you are visiting.
    1. Sergey Guriev
      Sergey Guriev 30 December 2015 21: 43 New
      0
      And what predatory animals lived in your territory, where are you a guest? Would you like to move?
  • Gunther
    Gunther 30 December 2015 11: 55 New
    +4
    I do not presume to judge what is true in this story, but it is obvious to me that the person who fed the beast or allowed his visits in the residential area should be punished, predators should be afraid of the person, for their and our good.
    The author, in my opinion, is absolutely right - we are dealing with manipulative technique, it is sad that so many people succumbed to emotions.
    It’s a pity, of course, but remember the child whose bear broke his arm in the zoo - people forget that this is not a plush toy.
  • Reptiloid
    Reptiloid 30 December 2015 12: 00 New
    0
    Provocations, speculation, fraud --- chip
    1. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 30 December 2015 12: 08 New
      0
      The Internet is somehow bad today. How many times it happened. Who does it - spares no one and nothing.
  • Begemot
    Begemot 30 December 2015 12: 16 New
    +4
    One mu..ka is enough to discredit a thousand people. The presence of such characters is always visible: these are blunt graffiti on the walls, and broken bottles in the most conspicuous place, overturned urns and benches, and so on and so forth. This whole story is about them. Indeed, looking at the torment of the animal was painful, but one must understand that the story began earlier, when the beast was not driven away immediately and he would not go to people as to his home. This year is very difficult for polar bears in terms of food. Moreover, it was impossible to teach people to feed in the village. By the way, I must say that on the topic of the North, another piece of news almost immediately followed about the murder of two Gazprom employees by a local resident-reindeer herder. There is also very interesting information that a supposedly very drunken reindeer herder, defending his land, tried to scare the drunken "guests", but it turned out that he killed. And before that, they went fishing together, fermented together. The same cliche: drunk Russians declared to the owner of the tundra that they were Gazprom, and if necessary, they would not ask him, the wretched one, they would easily expel him from their land, the reindeer breeder did not agree and prevented his expulsion by "scaring away" the aggressors, those are similar relations did not survive. And in fact, for sure, the usual drunken quarrel. The way Information is presented determines its perception.
  • gergi
    gergi 30 December 2015 12: 19 New
    0
    Zoodefenders and other very aggressive green letters are the brainchild of our exceptional sworn friends from behind a puddle.
  • venedofruss
    venedofruss 30 December 2015 12: 23 New
    +7
    I saw a movie with a bear. It seemed that the people at the base did this for fun, and not for self-defense. Also saw how the bear was in pain. I think they didn’t throw a firecracker. I hate people who enjoy the suffering of others.
    However, I agree with the author that we must be vigilant, the enemy does not sleep.
    There must be rules of conduct in the Arctic, and management must ensure that these rules are respected.
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 30 December 2015 12: 56 New
      -1
      Quote: venedofruss
      I think they didn’t throw a firecracker.

      why?
      1. venedofruss
        venedofruss 30 December 2015 13: 10 New
        0
        When the bear was crawling, blood was visible, the jaw of the campaign was not torn.
        I got the impression that the bear wanted to tear something from its mouth, and therefore, rubbed it on the snow. I don’t know what it was, but I doubt that the killing machine (as it is written in the article) would be so tormented by firecrackers. If wrong, correct.
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 30 December 2015 13: 37 New
          0
          Quote: venedofruss
          but I doubt the killing machine

          still one doubting
  • Combitor
    Combitor 30 December 2015 12: 24 New
    +4
    The author, apparently, is aware of all the events, since he described the situation in this way. Plus, he added a fair amount of bile and irony. Personally, I saw nothing in this event except a cruel attitude towards the polar bear. And there was no thought that they were trying to drive us away from the Arctic. And the author has already managed to see a whole conspiracy conspiracy. 163 thousand sympathizers ... whom someone has already taken note of. Apparently, recruiters from the CIA will come to me soon. I, after all, on Facebook also expressed my negative attitude and supported the investigation. There is no need to run ahead of the locomotive ... If an investigation is carried out on this fact, everyone will be given "earrings" and we will find out how everything really happened. And we ourselves do not have to act as judges. The polar bear, although he is a cruel and strong beast, but a man with his intellect, is still stronger. And about the firecracker ... If there is a possibility that the bear can swallow it, then this is already cruel to the beast. In extreme cases, for such purposes, there are rubber bullets, cartridges with sleeping pills, even a simple flare can drive the beast away, or by firing a rocket launcher upwards. Let the author himself swallow a firecracker with a lit fuse, and then tell about his impressions ... if he can.
    1. V.ic
      V.ic 30 December 2015 14: 00 New
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      Quote: Kombitor
      Let the author swallow a firecracker with a set wick on fire, and then tell about his impressions ... if he can.

      Drink Purgen and try not to rush to the toilet if you feel like it.
  • vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 30 December 2015 12: 24 New
    0
    "People, be vigilant! And before you start to catch another substance flying from the fan, let everyone think for a minute: is everything as he is told? As one hero of the famous film series said," in our difficult time, you cannot trust anyone. Even myself. Especially if there are many likes. "

    Absolutely agree!
  • press officer
    press officer 30 December 2015 12: 29 New
    +2
    Quote: alexey bukin
    The author of the article is apparently the only one who knows exactly the essence of the matter. Seeing a beast in a menagerie or in the wild does not mean that one can judge an immoral act.

    I AGREE TO YOU FOR ALL 100%
    The author (he is a moderator ...) wrote nonsense! OIL MINUS! negative
    The main thing in all this is that the bear is sorry crying (this is true) and I don't give a damn that he is dangerous in a real meeting, because how to write "and you go run with him and play, bullshit! fool Clear pepper that I will not go there and do not plan to run for distillation! yes
    It's not what they said on TV! The main thing here is precisely what on WHAT HELLO IT WAS TO PUT ON THE UNIVERSAL REVIEW ?????? fool angry fool WHAT! ??? negative
    The natural reaction of the Russian people is that the monster is mocking the animal! yes If a person is SICK FOR HEAD, then this is forever !!!! wassat fool fool fool
    Whatever happened there, everyone saw only the torment of the animal! Nothing more! No. And no one thought (oh, horror! How could we ???? !!! No. ) that in this case we had to laugh at what happened and clap our hands together, because the polar bear is the most dangerous! fool and it should not be a pity! fool Really?
    ON THE EARTH ONLY ONE ANIMAL DANGEROUS THIS MAN! hi
    1. Combitor
      Combitor 30 December 2015 14: 12 New
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      Quote: press attache
      The author (he is a moderator ...) wrote nonsense! OIL MINUS!

      The fact of the matter is that on this site moderators can block anyone who they don’t like, but at the same time write everything that their heart desires. They turned the site into their patrimony and a bunch of gossip-couch warriors ...
  • askort154
    askort154 30 December 2015 12: 31 New
    +7
    Lord, where did the World come in the 21st century ?!
    We kill everything that moves to fill our womb, making some delicacies out of some. At the same time, we ourselves are "killed" by individual individuals.
    The death of tens, hundreds, thousands of people is no longer a terrible tragedy. We got used to it - "the eye got used to it." Even cutting off heads on the air does not "catch" anymore. At the same time, a single case - "blows up society."
    A refugee child thrown ashore - "blew up the world community."
    The murder of Nemtsov - "blew up the world community."
    The killing of a dog in France, which was awarded the Order, is posthumous.
    The whole World mourns for the 17 dead in France, and does not notice the hundreds who also died in other countries. Etc.
    But everything is simple, in the 21st century, computer science began to control our consciousness.
    Computer science, has become a new type of weapon, capable of any vital trifle,
    make a large "precision bomb" for the desired target.
    In my opinion, the author tried to reflect this, however, somewhat randomly.
  • xorgi
    xorgi 30 December 2015 12: 38 New
    +5
    The author calls for being objective - let's be:
    "It was not possible for various reasons to forward the video. This is some kind of nonsense nowadays." - in our country there are a lot of places where you can call on a mobile phone, but transfer pictures or even more video - not.
    "One friend went to the place and brought the video. I envy Oskolkova. To have such acquaintances who can hit the road to Wrangel Island for the sake of one video (by the way, a closed territory) is impressive." - these are your conjectures, how do you know what needs and opportunities someone has. An acquaintance of mine has a need to climb into some abandoned military facility, and in fact he succeeds, regardless of the distance to it.
    "The locals who fed the bear are a masterpiece! Considering the fact that there are no locals on Wrangel at all, except for meteorologists and reserve staff." and further "I believe that someone from the bosses toiled with complementary foods because of nothing to do." - contradict yourself, by the way, not the fact that it was not the locals who were feeding, but for the bosses. Some bosses like to come to the reserve and "accidentally" shoot an animal.
    So the author did not reduce the number of noodles on your ears, but exaggerated.
    Depends on a situation:
    1. Polar bear - a strong, cunning and dangerous animal.
    2. Polar bear - an animal listed in the Red Book.
    Conclusion: in this situation, an investigation should be carried out and the fact of planned action should be established. And any jumps to the side do not bode well.
  • linadherent
    linadherent 30 December 2015 12: 42 New
    +1
    Members of the forum, I don’t understand why the cheese is boron? Or did all wildlife advocates stop eating meat? And if I post a video, how gobies and piglets are slaughtered, will they stop eating meat, or will I be razed to the ground? Or does the people believe that it is possible to agree with a predator on its territory, or to call the police? Something we increasingly argue as in an enlightened geyrop, forgetting that the cat in the house is not to kiss her under the tail, but in order to grab any infection from mice instead of you !!! hi
    1. xorgi
      xorgi 30 December 2015 12: 55 New
      +3
      All fuss due to the fact that if you slaughter animals for food (and a bear because of danger) - this is normal and most do not argue against this. But killing an animal for fun, for fun, because of boredom, then such a person can be tapped in the face and start a business.
      1. linadherent
        linadherent 30 December 2015 12: 59 New
        0
        Doubtful entertainment, with full pants, do not you? lol
        1. xorgi
          xorgi 30 December 2015 13: 12 New
          +2
          Someone, like some, without a parachute jumping from an airplane, also tickles nerves.
          1. linadherent
            linadherent 30 December 2015 13: 24 New
            +1
            I don’t think that this is a similar case, but in general let the competent authorities understand whether there was a malicious intent or not ... In the meantime, there is nothing to dispute about, you cannot read his thoughts. I just wanted to remind myself of the presumption of innocence and, in general, I somewhat agree with the author of the article ... yes
  • linadherent
    linadherent 30 December 2015 12: 43 New
    0
    And pigs and cows in order to eat them! good
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 30 December 2015 13: 38 New
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      Quote: linadherent
      And pigs and cows in order to eat them!

      and the pigs agree with the cows ?! laughing
      1. linadherent
        linadherent 30 December 2015 13: 40 New
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        You might think you ask them when you eat ... lol
        1. Vasilenko Vladimir
          Vasilenko Vladimir 30 December 2015 14: 29 New
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          I don’t ask them even when I cut
          1. linadherent
            linadherent 30 December 2015 14: 34 New
            +1
            You know why I thought so, although I myself do the same ... Well, if so, enjoy our meal laughing and happy new year !!! drinks
            1. Vasilenko Vladimir
              Vasilenko Vladimir 30 December 2015 15: 05 New
              -1
              and you with the same
  • savage1976
    savage1976 30 December 2015 13: 04 New
    +6
    I live in Magadan, a bear comes into the country several times during the summer, even comes up with a weapon (a legal hunter), meets brown for 50 meters. Shooting when there is a threat is one thing, and mocking is another thing. There is nothing to raise a hysteria, there is a fact, there are bodies involved in such incidents. They will figure out who gets punished. And hysteria was arranged yes, on purpose, all this is propananda and pressure on Russia for geopolitical purposes. There Japan again beats whales and something green and human rights activists are not very excited, apparently the owner does not order.
  • Oprichnik
    Oprichnik 30 December 2015 13: 16 New
    +9
    1. The situation with the bear is clearly custom-made.
    2. The start of shooting is not shown to anyone, but it certainly was or is.
    3. Judging by the reaction of the bear, this is not a firecracker and not a burst package.
    4. A cook if he is a cook, to put it mildly.
    5. The customer and plot performers are enemies. One to the state, the other to animals.
    6. Man, not the king of nature, but its transformer into the environment.
    7. Personally, I am for such mockery of the animal, this geek would simply mutilate in response. And I would not regret it.