In China, the fourth landing ship project 071 began to pass tests

Recently went to sea for testing 4-m landing ship type 071 of the Chinese Navy, reports Flotprom with reference to the People's Daily.

"The 071 project is the largest ship of the Chinese Navy after the aircraft carrier Liaoning, which is capable of performing four tasks at once: disembarking amphibious assault forces on land, receiving helicopters, being the center of command and a floating hospital," the Chinese newspaper writes.

A total of 6 similar ships will be built.

FlotProm Help:

“Ship displacement - 19 000 t (standard);
Length - 210 m (maximum);
Width - 28 m (at the waterline);
Draft - 7 m;
Engines: 4 diesel engine SEMT Pielstick 16 PC 2.6 V400;
Power - 47 200 l. with. (35 197 kW);
Propulsion - 2 propeller;
Travel speed - 20 nodes (maximum);
Navigation range - 11 000 km on 18 nodes.
Armament: Artillery 1 × 76 mm AU AK-176; Antiaircraft artillery 4 × 30 mm AU AK-630;
Aviation group 4 of the Z-8 helicopter. "

Comments

[Sterlya]

Chinese Forward !. So that at a time it was possible to transfer a million of everything to the shores of our "Partners"!

[Vladimirets]

Quote: Sterlya

So that at a time it was possible to transfer a million of everything to the shores of our "Partners"!

HZ, where they will still be transferred. We would have such a pace. Only I wonder why there AK-176?

[kil 31]

It’s even somehow joyful that we don’t have any claims to China in those seas.

[Wiruz]

It is these landing ships that our fleet needs to replace the morally and physically obsolete BDKs. All these projects of the UDC ala mini-aircraft carrier with a continuous flight deck are, of course, good, but expensive. They alone cannot replace the entire landing fleet.

[Wiruz]

Your flag is not good! laughing
And to answer you this as a resident mattress. wassat
Although here. For the average stupid senator, even a mattress, you can learn a lot. (not to mention the rest of wassat)

I don’t understand what is happening with my flag. I physically live in Kazakhstan, spiritually - in Russia. YouTube puts ads on me in Ukrainian. In short, Homeland - USSR

[Sterlya]

Quote: Wiruz

I don’t understand what is happening with my flag. I physically live in Kazakhstan, spiritually - in Russia. YouTube puts ads on me in Ukrainian. In short, Homeland - USSR laughing

At there, the matrix painters
I have a website. so there are 80% Americans, 19% Canadians visitors. Trouble.
I did not know that so many relatives live there ?!
I don’t understand what they’re getting into.

[Sailor]

The most interesting thing is that I have a similar situation, I live in Volgograd, set the flag of the Russian Federation, and the staff comes out on the site.

[Sterlya]

Quote: Sailor

The most interesting thing is that I have a similar situation, I live in Volgograd, set the flag of the Russian Federation, and the staff comes out on the site.

Do not. Flag ov. so you work on ju ?!
It’s a joke that he hung this Ugly flag for a month.
But one thing is clear. Tan is not indifferent to you! . ALMOST a joke!

[captain]

The main thing is that these ships would not land a million in our Far East.

[dmi.pris1]

I, a resident of the Kuban who was born in the USSR, regularly hang a geyropovsky flag on the site, and it’s pointless to contact administrators. I think that users themselves must set the flag they like. And the Chinese are great, here’s an example for our united corporation .. And do not blame lack of funds, there is a lack of conscience and greed of owners of enterprises hiding behind the state corporation ..

Quote: Sterlya

Quote: Wiruz

It is these landing ships that our fleet needs to replace the morally and physically obsolete BDKs. All these projects of the UDC ala mini-aircraft carrier with a continuous flight deck are, of course, good, but expensive. They alone cannot replace the entire landing fleet.

Your flag is not good!
And to answer you this as a resident mattress.
Although here. For the average stupid senator, even a mattress, you can learn a lot. (not to mention the rest )

[common man]

Quote: Wiruz

All these projects of the UDC ala mini-aircraft carrier with a continuous flight deck are, of course, good, but expensive.

Don't judge strictly, I don't consider myself a specialist, but I also don't understand the role of such UDCs. And not only because of the high cost. Let's try to consider the role of the UDC "ala Mistral" components in a normal landing operation.
1. The landing ship must approach the shore, land the troops with weapons and ammunition and leave for a new party.
2. A helicopter carrier with attack helicopters (type KA-52K) should be near the bridgehead and continuously support the landing. While there is enough fuel and ammunition. In principle, they can be taken directly to the sea from supply vessels.
3. A hospital ship should receive the wounded and evacuate to the rear, providing emergency assistance along the way. It is desirable that this was not an armed ship with crosses, so that there was a chance of non-aggression on it.
4. The headquarters ship must constantly to be in the area of ​​the operation for the implementation of general command. Have the means of air defense and anti-aircraft defense of self-defense and the ability to maneuver for better survival.
As they plan to use ala Mistral, I can not imagine. Who knows, tell me.

[dsi]

but I also don’t understand the role of such UDC.

Universality implies the ability to be present in several forms. According to the tasks.

[common man]

Quote: dsi

Versatility implies the ability to be present in several forms.

Or not the ability to perform normally everything that is put into it. That is why Mistral needs attack helicopters and headquarters if it is used as a "Syrian express"? A balanced amphibious squadron should consist of an Izumo-class helicopter carrier with headquarters and PLO helicopters, KA-31 AWACS and KA-52K shock helicopters, and 2-3 BDKs of the type of project 071. Apart from the escort, of course.
Something like that.

[chunga-changa]

Quote: man in the street

How to plan to use

Very simple. This ship will simply be one of the large landing group. There will be an AB, another paratrooper of the same type, a pair of nuclear submarines, up to 10 EM-FRs, plus various tankers and supplies. There will be both air defense and anti-aircraft defense and fire support for the landing.
By one mistral only our Internet analysts are at war. But they, as you know, did not find one task even for him. So they wrote - we do not have tasks for this French barn. That’s when ours will build the same, but in their own shipyards, a hundred times cheaper and a thousand times better, then tasks will arise.

[donavi49]

Well, they have a lot of Gren level BDKs with a cargo deck for an amphibious exit, a cargo upper deck, a helipad and through gangways (stern and bow).

[Sterlya]

Quote: man in the street

As they plan to use ala Mistral, I can not imagine. Who knows, tell me.

the idea then consists in applying against underdeveloped countries. or in certain situations.
In a real war, how many minutes does a tank take to complete a mission?

[avt]

Quote: Wiruz

It is these landing ships that our fleet needs to replace the morally and physically obsolete BDKs. All these projects of the UDC ala mini-aircraft carrier with a continuous flight deck are, of course, good, but expensive. They alone cannot replace the entire landing fleet.

Horses mixed up in a heap, people ..... nothing that you are contrasting completely different projects ??? Which in life complement each other? The Chinese have not yet built the UDC.

Quote: Wiruz

I don’t understand what is happening with my flag.

Something like a provider is probably connected.

[Chicot 1]

Quote: Sterlya

Chinese Forward !. So that at a time it was possible to transfer a million of everything to the shores of our "Partners"!

Are you sure that they will trample these millions to the shores of the "partners", and not to the coast of our Far East? ..

Quote: keel 31

It’s even somehow joyful that we don’t have any claims to China in those seas

And where is the guarantee that in these very seas "great" China will not make claims to us? ..

Quote: Vladimirets

HZ, where they will still be transferred. We would have such a pace

While we are run by the "geniuses of economics" Chubais, "effective managers" Poghosyans and "patriotic patriots" Ragozin, we will never see the Chinese pace at home ...

[Odysseus]

Quote: Chicot 1

Are you sure that they will trample these millions to the shores of the "partners", and not to the coast of our Far East? ..

If you look at the map, you will see that we have a huge land border with the PRC. And if you look at the balance of forces in the ground forces, you will see that the PRC has a huge advantage.
So the last thing that threatens us is the Chinese fleet.
This is not to mention that attacking Russia in the short / medium term of the PRC is not necessary.

Quote: Chicot 1

While we are run by the "geniuses of economics" Chubais, "effective managers" Poghosyans and "patriotic patriots" Ragozin, we will never see the Chinese pace at home ...

The point, of course, is not only personalities, but, in general, you can’t argue with you here.

[Chicot 1]

Quote: Odyssey

So the last thing that threatens us is the Chinese fleet

The Chinese Navy is part of the PLA. And they will not stand aside during a military conflict with any of the states. Including with Russia ...

Quote: Odyssey

This is not to mention that China does not need to attack Russia in the short / medium term

You personally think so. But are you sure that the leaders of "great" China think the same way? ..

Quote: Odyssey

The point, of course, is not only personalities

However, it depends on them a lot. Especially from such high-ranking ...

[Odysseus]

Quote: Chicot 1

The Chinese Navy is part of the PLA. And they will not stand aside during a military conflict with any of the states.

They will not stand aside, although the only task that can be imagined for them is to attack the base in Vilyuchinsk.
But it does not matter, China has absolute superiority in the ground forces, our only and sufficient counterargument is nuclear weapons. The fleet has nothing to do with it at all; it cannot have any significant influence on the course of hostilities.

Quote: Chicot 1

But are you sure that the leaders of "great" China think the same way? ..

Of course I am sure. It is enough to look at the words, and most importantly, at the affairs of the leadership of the CPC Central Committee. The task is to make China the strongest economic power in the world, the direction of foreign policy and military efforts is to control the sea, the immediate tasks are to reunite with Taiwan and go beyond the first, and then for the second line of islands.
But even if we assume that the entire leadership of the CPC went crazy at once and decided to start continental conquests in the north, then even the defenseless Mongolia and Kazakhstan would be hit, and not Russia, which has the largest nuclear arsenal.

[Linkor9s21]

It’s even somehow joyful that we don’t have any claims to China in those seas.

This China should be glad that we have no complaints in those seas, you seem to have begun to forget comrade, who is the nuclear power here))

[WInovikov]

But has China ceased to be a nuclear power?

[Sterlya]

Quote: Vladimirets

Z, where they will still be transferred. what We would have such a pace. Only I wonder why there AK-176?

Well, why? The right thing never hurts!
Suddenly need?

[Barakuda]

Why, he’s landing. Suddenly, the shore was mined, the Taiwanese maniacs sat down, it would be necessary to fire ... and God forbid the rate of fire there, the barrel gains the desired temperature of shots after 7 ... only give the shells to the machine.

[Vladimirets]

Quote: Barracuda

Why, he’s landing. Suddenly, the shore was mined, the Taiwanese maniacs sat down, it would be necessary to fire ... and God forbid the rate of fire there, the barrel gains the desired temperature of shots after 7 ... only give the shells to the machine.

Well, yes, UDC with 1 (one!) 76mm installation will strongly support the landing.

[Sterlya]

Quote: Vladimirets

HZ, where they will still be transferred. what We would have such a pace. Only I wonder why there AK-176?

The trouble is what. From the beginning to deal with Glavnyuk. then less poop ....

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: Vladimirets

AK-176?

what did not please?
Development began by order of the Council of Ministers of the USSR dated March 15, 1971 at the Central Research Institute "Burevestnik" (created on the basis of the design bureau of the Gorky Machine-Building Plant in 1970), chief designer G.P. Ryndyk. According to other data (source), the development of the installation began at the end of 1968, simultaneously with the development of the 57-mm A-220 installation.


Rate of Fire (modes):
- 30 rds / min
- 60 rds / min
- 120-131 rounds / min
The interval between queues is minimal - 5-10 seconds
Reaction time from stowed position - up to 3 minutes
Reaction time from operational readiness No. 1, taking into account hydraulic reloading, is up to 15 seconds.
Tracking time - 60 minutes

Tests have shown that the AK-176 can quite effectively provide air defense from the Harpoon and Tomahawk-class anti-ship missiles - on average, up to 25 rounds were spent on hitting the target missile ATGM Phalanx. The length of a continuous burst according to the manufacturer's data is 70 shots, but during the tests, the installation worked with two continuous bursts of 75 shots each with a break of 25-30 minutes.

Ammunition - standardized with a 76.2 mm twin AK-726. To destroy sea and coastal targets, shells with a fuse of shock action VG-67 are used. For anti-aircraft firing, shells with a non-contact radar fuse AR-51L (firing radius of 8 m) are used.
UZSB-62RP (shot), ZS-63 (shell) - anti-aircraft, unified in size and weight with other shells for installation;
Mass of explosives - 480 grams (A-IX-2)
Fuse - AR-51L

UOFB-62 (shot), OF-62 (projectile) - high-explosive fragmentation, unified in size and weight with other shells for installation;
Mass of explosives - 400 grams (A-IX-2)
Fuse - VG-67
Self-liquidator response time - 28-31 seconds (stolen from the network ....)

[Vladimirets]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

what did not please?

I’m not talking about the fact that the AU is bad, but about the fact that it’s UDC, in principle, it’s not needed, well, he’s not the only one who will land troops, support ships are needed and his weather setting doesn’t.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

no, I understand if the sailor writes, really knowing that this art. installation (ak-176) -nothing, but just like that, stupidly ask a question, why? barrel temperature, yes, but cooling is improving, and firepower is not weak ...

[Vladimirets]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

no, I understand if a sailor who really knows

No, I understand if the sailor who really knows, or rather, not the sailor, but the tactician who knows the operations of landing amphibious assaults answers. TTX AK-176 I myself can read. Therefore, I ask: why? If there is nothing to justify, then to hell at all to answer?

[seti]

Such ships would not hurt us either. Especially considering the lack of ships on the Syrian Express line

[76SSSR]

The cargo ship in the photo dwarf seems in comparison.

[Denis Obukhov]

What a strange arrangement, it reminds the contours of a cruiser but with a gun and a hangar :), and it looks like the hangar is two helicopters plus two can be on deck. the French squeeze helicopters and armored vehicles into the mistral 4 times more, with about the same soldier capacity, (this is if Wikipedia is not lying). accordingly, it becomes interesting why the Chinese have a series of such ships from which the landing will not be very fast

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Denis Obukhov

What a strange arrangement, it reminds the contours of a cruiser but with a gun and a hangar :), and it looks like the hangar is two helicopters plus two can be on deck. the French squeeze helicopters and armored vehicles into the mistral 4 times more, with about the same soldier capacity, (this is if Wikipedia is not lying). accordingly, it becomes interesting why the Chinese have a series of such ships from which the landing will not be very fast

It's simple - it's not a UDC, but a cheaper landing ship dock. Chinese "Harpers Ferry" or even "San Antonio" with a rudiment from a large landing craft in the form of a bow AK-176.
Its task is to deliver the landing party with equipment to the landing area and land it with boats from the docking chamber (4 helicopters can also be used for landing l / s). The main landing craft is boats. Supporting an airborne landing on its own is hardly possible.

[Vladimirets]

Quote: Alexey RA

Quote: Denis Obukhov
What a strange arrangement, it reminds the contours of a cruiser but with a gun and a hangar :), and it looks like the hangar is two helicopters plus two can be on deck. the French squeeze helicopters and armored vehicles into the mistral 4 times more, with about the same soldier capacity, (this is if Wikipedia is not lying). accordingly, it becomes interesting why the Chinese have a series of such ships from which the landing will not be very fast

Another over-commented comment from Den.Obukhov http://bmpd.livejournal.com/78789.html

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: Alexey RA

It's simple - this is not UDC, but a cheaper landing dock ship.

I’ll add to the above, there’s a hospital, for a fair amount of places ... (this is important)

[donavi49]

4 helicopter inside in the layout 2хZ-8 + 2хZ-9.

As for the quick landing, he has a good idea here. The feature of the project is the largest dock camera, actually until the end of the add-in. 4 LCAC climb there (for example, in Mistral 2, and in Wosp 3).

Plus, in the waiting room (in the nose, an additional amphibious technique can be placed, which, following LCAC, will go in the first wave on its own.

[Jozhkin Cat]

Nice ship, not like American broilers. Why so few weapons, missiles RCC de?

[Wiruz]

Why so few weapons, missiles RCC de?

Bring back my plus. I accidentally put it to you!

You probably did not quite understand the purpose of this ship. This is a landing ship!

[Jozhkin Cat]

he will not swim before landing

[Wiruz]

he will not swim before landing

Why so?

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Wiruz

he will not swim before landing

Why so?

Duc ... this ... no "calibers", no "mace", no AK-130, no armor either. So - will not swim! And do not care that this is just DKD.

Giggles ... I immediately remembered the story of the "Halzan", when after fulfilling all the requirements of the Navy for security, survivability and weapons, the landing helicopter carrier for the battalion of marines climbed only into the corps of Project 1143.

[Pirogov]

Yes, China at such a pace in ten years and the United States will catch up with the fleet.

[Chicot 1]

Quote: Pirogov

Yes, China at such a pace in ten years and the United States will catch up with the fleet.

They will at least catch up with it, at least overtake it, at least overtake in quantity, but ... The Han people will not get much from this ... For one simple reason - they still do not know how to handle large operational formations on the ocean. But the Americans have this experience. And without it, there is nothing to do in the Pacific (yes, and in any other) ocean ...

The Han people are now studying hard. They conduct exercises and maneuvers. Including joint ones ... Ours have contracted to help them in this ... The whole question is just why? .. Formally help a neighbor and a "partner", but in fact we are training a very probable enemy on our head (and this time without quotes ) ...

[afdjhbn67]

It’s sad and insulting - we didn’t even build 2 Mistral, we couldn’t even buy it — one talk and a mess .. and at the same time almost give out a victory for our diplomacy .. a zombie box drives

[Jozhkin Cat]

And where to apply them? At least theoretically.

[afdjhbn67]

Quote: Yozhkin Cat

And where to apply them? At least theoretically

And why buy them - purely practical?

[Jozhkin Cat]

Probably wanted to invest in real estate

[afdjhbn67]

Quote: Yozhkin Cat

Probably wanted to invest in real estate

It seems like that .. why then - "new technologies" and others I will give

[pellets]

At the moment, instead of the bulk carriers purchased from Turkey. Apparently the Mistrals were built for this "then." Why ammunition is delivered to Syria by all in the know, the efficiency of using the existing BDK at the Black Sea Fleet is also clear ?!

[vyinemeynen]

It looks very dirty.

[Wiruz]

But they have it

[cap]

Quote: Wiruz

But they have it

There is no reception against scrap.
MODIFICATIONS
Bastion-P (K300P index) is a mobile version of the complex based on the MZKT-7930 chassis.

COMPOSITION
The mobile anti-ship complex "Bastion-P" includes:
- Anti-ship missiles "Onyx" in a transport and launch cup;
- K-340P self-propelled launchers on the MZKT-7930 chassis (crew - 3 people);
- K-380R combat control vehicle on the KamAZ-43101 chassis (crew - 5 people);
- Equipment for information and technical interfacing of combat assets of the complex with the head command post;
- Automated system of combat control of the complex;
- A set of maintenance tools.

In addition to the Bastion-P anti-ship complex, the following can be supplied:
- Transport-loading machines K-342P;
- Machines ensure combat duty;
- Training facilities;
- Helicopter target designation.
Can be equipped with self-propelled over-the-horizon radar for detecting air and surface targets "Monolith-B"
TECH SPECS:
Firing range:
- along a combined trajectory of 300 km
- 120 km along a low-altitude trajectory
Flight altitude:
- on the marching section of the trajectory 14000-15000 m
- on a low altitude trajectory of 10-15 m
- at the target 5-15 m
Airspeed:
- at an altitude of 15 km 750m / s (2.6M)
- on a low altitude trajectory 2.0M
Missile length 8000 mm
Wingspan 1700 mm
Starting weight 3000 kg
Weight TPK 3900 kg
Warhead
Penetrating type
Weight 200-250 kg
Homing head
- range up to 80 km
- target capture angle +/- 45 degrees
- availability time 2 min
- weight 89 kg
The Bastion complex provides protection of the coastline with a length of more than 600 km from enemy landing operations, the distant line of the political-administrative region as part of its unified coastal defense system. Already standing where it should be.

[cap]

"Coastal missile system" Bastion "with a unified supersonic homing anti-ship missile" Onyx "is designed to destroy surface ships of various classes and types from amphibious assault formations, convoys, ship and aircraft carrier strike groups, as well as single ships and ground radio-contrast targets in conditions of intense fire and electronic countermeasures "
"Welcome" to Vladivostok Project071.
Laolin, or whatever it is, can be grabbed to the heap

[Rosty]

In China, one of the largest world shipbuilding industries in the world. Look at satellite images of southeast China - it looks like a comb, because of the moorings of shipbuilding companies. The quality is controversial, metallurgy is lagging, but they are progressing rapidly. Cause? State support for the industry and the absence of taxes on this type of engineering. Plus localization - its engines, cranes with heavy lifting capacity, etc.
Public policy should be, first of all. Everything is in order with the designers there, they invest money in education without sparing. And here we have ... Previously, large shipyards had their own institutes and vocational schools. Now they can’t find welders, not enough for all plants.

[Cobra77]

Quote: Pirogov

Yes, China at such a pace in ten years and the United States will catch up with the fleet.

In quantity it may still be, but not in quality. No matter how we treat mattresses, they have the best fleet on this globe and remain so for a very long time. China is unlikely to be able to catch up with him in the next 10-15 years. Yes, China does not really need this. He has no tasks for this.

[Great-grandfather of Zeus]

Yes, the Chinese do not take care of the fleet as a child; there is certainly a fleet development strategy and a concept for its practical use ... we should build at such a pace!

[awersa]

To prevent this giant from being sunk by the first torpedo, it’s necessary to drive a couple of destroyers with it with a trailer ...

[Alexey RA]

Quote: awersa

To prevent this giant from being sunk by the first torpedo, it’s necessary to drive a couple of destroyers with it with a trailer ...

This is true for any landing craft.

However, in the USSR it was believed that the Yankees planned to use the UDC as an ASW aircraft carrier - to cover the transatlantic transfer of the main forces of the US Armed Forces from the Metropolis to Europe. Yes, and our UDC grew out of anti-submarine ships ("Khalzan" was at first "cheap helicopter carrier PLO")

[pellets]

In "peacetime" like today, our BDK Black Sea Fleet cruise the Russian Federation - Syria in single voyage, why not ?!

[donavi49]

Well, they have them and are being built at an accelerated pace.

[Cobra77]

Are they preparing for # Taiwan? :)

[sailor roman]

In my opinion, such insignificant armament, a small number of helicopters, and the quantity of floating assault landing craft are not indicated at all to such dimensions and displacement.

[donavi49]

Why weapons landing ship? Each ton allocated to armament - robs him per ton of this basic functionality. This is the same as resenting why the frigate does not have a cargo hold and a container loader crane.

On the new 2 ships, triples (this and another 2 under construction) should have seemed to add the HHQ-10 complex for which, their analogue of RIM has been completed.

This is generally a leader by landing gear, 4 LCAC or 8 of large barges climb into it. There is a docking camera under 100 meters.

[moskowit]

The sons of the Celestial Empire are actively preparing for the return of their own and "kind of" their islands ...

[YURIY888]

Do you think that they have "like", but we have "not like" ....?

[Phantom Revolution]

Quote: YURIY888

Do you think that they have "like", but we have "not like" ....?

At the moment, we are in their last place, if only because another strong enemy is not needed at hand, until other disputes with neighbors like Taiwan, Korea, the Philippines, Japan and others have been settled one way or another.

[NUR]

China stamps ships like hot cakes because they did not have perestroika and glasnost and look less into the mouth of the west.

[afrikanez]

In the photo it seems like a new ship, but why is it so rusty? Well then what will happen to him, they will bend to paint it.

[donavi49]

This is typical for everyone here, too, a new ship with a similar outfitting period, before painting.

[donavi49]

He is after painting.

[From Samara]

The PLA fleet is still doubtful ...

[Dimon19661]

Once we built new ships of the ocean zone at an accelerated pace. And now more and more boats, 1-2 per year (((

[Evil 55]

An interesting dish ... I would like to see something similar under the Russian flag ...