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In China, the fourth landing ship project 071 began to pass tests

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Recently went to sea for testing 4-m landing ship type 071 of the Chinese Navy, reports Flotprom with reference to the People's Daily.




"The 071 project is the largest ship of the Chinese Navy after the aircraft carrier Liaoning, which is capable of performing four tasks at once: disembarking amphibious assault forces on land, receiving helicopters, being the center of command and a floating hospital," the Chinese newspaper writes.

A total of 6 similar ships will be built.



FlotProm Help:

“Ship displacement - 19 000 t (standard);
Length - 210 m (maximum);
Width - 28 m (at the waterline);
Draft - 7 m;
Engines: 4 diesel engine SEMT Pielstick 16 PC 2.6 V400;
Power - 47 200 l. with. (35 197 kW);
Propulsion - 2 propeller;
Travel speed - 20 nodes (maximum);
Navigation range - 11 000 km on 18 nodes.
Armament: Artillery 1 × 76 mm AU AK-176; Antiaircraft artillery 4 × 30 mm AU AK-630;
Aviation group 4 of the Z-8 helicopter. "


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  1. Sterlya
    Sterlya 29 December 2015 17: 51 New
    -3
    laughing The Chinese Forward !. So that at a time it would be possible to transfer a million total to the shores of our "Partners"! laughing
    1. Vladimirets
      Vladimirets 29 December 2015 17: 55 New
      +7
      Quote: Sterlya
      So that at a time it would be possible to transfer a million total to the shores of our "Partners"!

      HZ, where they will still be transferred. what We would have such a pace. Only I wonder why there AK-176?
      1. kil 31
        kil 31 29 December 2015 17: 55 New
        +1
        It’s even somehow joyful that we don’t have any claims to China in those seas.
        1. Wiruz
          Wiruz 29 December 2015 18: 00 New
          11
          It is these landing ships that our fleet needs to replace the morally and physically obsolete BDKs. All these projects of the UDC ala mini-aircraft carrier with a continuous flight deck are, of course, good, but expensive. They alone cannot replace the entire landing fleet. hi
          1. The comment was deleted.
            1. Wiruz
              Wiruz 29 December 2015 18: 14 New
              26
              Your flag is not good! laughing
              And to answer you this as a resident mattress. wassat
              Although here. For the average stupid senator, even a mattress, you can learn a lot. (not to mention the rest of wassat)


              I don’t understand what is happening with my flag. I physically live in Kazakhstan, spiritually - in Russia. YouTube puts ads on me in Ukrainian. In short, Homeland - USSR laughing
              1. Sterlya
                Sterlya 29 December 2015 18: 25 New
                +3
                Quote: Wiruz
                I don’t understand what is happening with my flag. I physically live in Kazakhstan, spiritually - in Russia. YouTube puts ads on me in Ukrainian. In short, Homeland - USSR laughing

                At there, the matrix painters laughing
                I have a website. so there are 80% Americans, 19% Canadians visitors. Trouble. laughing
                I did not know that so many relatives live there ?! fellow
                I don’t understand what they’re getting into.
              2. Sailor
                Sailor 29 December 2015 19: 03 New
                +4
                The most interesting thing is that I have a similar situation, I live in Volgograd, set the flag of the Russian Federation, and the staff comes out on the site.
                1. Sterlya
                  Sterlya 29 December 2015 19: 12 New
                  0
                  Quote: Sailor
                  The most interesting thing is that I have a similar situation, I live in Volgograd, set the flag of the Russian Federation, and the staff comes out on the site.

                  Do not. Flag ov. so you work on ju ?! laughing laughing laughing
                  It’s a joke that he hung this Ugly flag for a month.
                  But one thing is clear. Tan is not indifferent to you! laughing . ALMOST a joke!
              3. captain
                captain 29 December 2015 19: 07 New
                +1
                The main thing is that these ships would not land a million in our Far East.
            2. dmi.pris
              dmi.pris 29 December 2015 20: 51 New
              +1
              I, a resident of the Kuban who was born in the USSR, regularly hang a geyropovsky flag on the site, and it’s pointless to contact administrators. I think that users themselves must set the flag they like. And the Chinese are great, here’s an example for our united corporation .. And do not blame lack of funds, there is a lack of conscience and greed of owners of enterprises hiding behind the state corporation ..
              Quote: Sterlya
              Quote: Wiruz
              It is these landing ships that our fleet needs to replace the morally and physically obsolete BDKs. All these projects of the UDC ala mini-aircraft carrier with a continuous flight deck are, of course, good, but expensive. They alone cannot replace the entire landing fleet. hi

              Your flag is not good! laughing
              And to answer you this as a resident mattress. wassat
              Although here. For the average stupid senator, even a mattress, you can learn a lot. (not to mention the rest wassat )
          2. common man
            common man 29 December 2015 18: 48 New
            0
            Quote: Wiruz
            All these projects of the UDC ala mini-aircraft carrier with a continuous flight deck are, of course, good, but expensive.

            Do not judge strictly, I do not consider myself a specialist, but I also do not understand the role of such UDC. And not only because of the high cost. Let us try to consider the role of the components of UDC "ala Mistral" in a normal landing operation.
            1. The landing ship must approach the shore, land the troops with weapons and ammunition and leave for a new party.
            2. A helicopter carrier with attack helicopters (type KA-52K) should be near the bridgehead and continuously support the landing. While there is enough fuel and ammunition. In principle, they can be taken directly to the sea from supply vessels.
            3. A hospital ship should receive the wounded and evacuate to the rear, providing emergency assistance along the way. It is desirable that this was not an armed ship with crosses, so that there was a chance of non-aggression on it.
            4. The headquarters ship must constantly to be in the area of ​​the operation for the implementation of general command. Have the means of air defense and anti-aircraft defense of self-defense and the ability to maneuver for better survival.
            As they plan to use ala Mistral, I can not imagine. Who knows, tell me.
            1. dsi
              dsi 29 December 2015 19: 13 New
              0
              but I also don’t understand the role of such UDC.

              Universality implies the ability to be present in several forms. According to the tasks.
              1. common man
                common man 29 December 2015 22: 09 New
                0
                Quote: dsi

                Versatility implies the ability to be present in several forms.

                Or not the ability to perform normally everything that is laid in it. That's why Mistral attack helicopters and headquarters if you use it as the "Syrian express"? A balanced landing squadron should consist of a Izumo-type helicopter carrier with headquarters and helicopters PLO, KA-31 DRLO and KA-52K attack, and 2-3 BDKs of the type presented in Project 071. Apart from the escort, of course.
                Something like that.
            2. chunga-changa
              chunga-changa 29 December 2015 19: 51 New
              0
              Quote: man in the street
              How to plan to use

              Very simple. This ship will simply be one of the large landing group. There will be an AB, another paratrooper of the same type, a pair of nuclear submarines, up to 10 EM-FRs, plus various tankers and supplies. There will be both air defense and anti-aircraft defense and fire support for the landing.
              By one mistral only our Internet analysts are at war. But they, as you know, did not find one task even for him. So they wrote - we do not have tasks for this French barn. That’s when ours will build the same, but in their own shipyards, a hundred times cheaper and a thousand times better, then tasks will arise.
              1. donavi49
                donavi49 29 December 2015 20: 23 New
                0
                Well, they have a lot of Gren level BDKs with a cargo deck for an amphibious exit, a cargo upper deck, a helipad and through gangways (stern and bow).
            3. Sterlya
              Sterlya 29 December 2015 23: 22 New
              0
              Quote: man in the street
              As they plan to use ala Mistral, I can not imagine. Who knows, tell me.

              the idea then consists in applying against underdeveloped countries. or in certain situations.
              In a real war, how many minutes does a tank take to complete a mission?
          3. avt
            avt 29 December 2015 19: 07 New
            0
            Quote: Wiruz
            It is these landing ships that our fleet needs to replace the morally and physically obsolete BDKs. All these projects of the UDC ala mini-aircraft carrier with a continuous flight deck are, of course, good, but expensive. They alone cannot replace the entire landing fleet.

            wassat Horses mixed up in a heap, people ..... nothing that you are contrasting completely different projects ??? Which in life complement each other? The Chinese have not yet built the UDC.
            Quote: Wiruz
            I don’t understand what is happening with my flag.

            Something like a provider is probably connected.
        2. Chicot 1
          Chicot 1 29 December 2015 18: 04 New
          +2
          Quote: Sterlya
          The Chinese Forward !. So that at a time it would be possible to transfer a million total to the shores of our "Partners"!

          Are you sure that they will trample these millions to the shores of the "partners", and not to the coast of our Far East? ..
          Quote: Kil 31
          It’s even somehow joyful that we don’t have any claims to China in those seas

          And where is the guarantee that in these very seas the "great" China will not make claims to us? ..
          Quote: Vladimirets
          HZ, where they will still be transferred. We would have such a pace

          As long as we are led by the "geniuses of the economy" Chubais, the "effective managers" Poghosyan and the "patriotic patriots" of Ragozin, we will never see the Chinese pace at our place ...
          1. Odysseus
            Odysseus 29 December 2015 18: 58 New
            0
            Quote: Chicot 1
            Are you sure that they will trample these millions to the shores of the "partners", and not to the coast of our Far East? ..

            If you look at the map, you will see that we have a huge land border with the PRC. And if you look at the balance of forces in the ground forces, you will see that the PRC has a huge advantage.
            So the last thing that threatens us is the Chinese fleet.
            This is not to mention that attacking Russia in the short / medium term of the PRC is not necessary.
            Quote: Chicot 1

            As long as we are led by the "geniuses of the economy" Chubais, the "effective managers" Poghosyan and the "patriotic patriots" of Ragozin, we will never see the Chinese pace at our place ...

            The point, of course, is not only personalities, but, in general, you can’t argue with you here.
            1. Chicot 1
              Chicot 1 29 December 2015 19: 18 New
              +1
              Quote: Odyssey
              So the last thing that threatens us is the Chinese fleet

              The Chinese Navy is part of the PLA. And they will not stand aside during a military conflict with any of the states. Including with Russia ...
              Quote: Odyssey
              This is not to mention that China does not need to attack Russia in the short / medium term

              So you think it is you personally. But are you sure you think the same way in the leadership of the “great” China? ..
              Quote: Odyssey
              The point, of course, is not only personalities

              However, it depends on them a lot. Especially from such high-ranking ...
              1. Odysseus
                Odysseus 29 December 2015 19: 59 New
                0
                Quote: Chicot 1

                The Chinese Navy is part of the PLA. And they will not stand aside during a military conflict with any of the states.

                They will not stand aside, although the only task that can be imagined for them is to attack the base in Vilyuchinsk.
                But it does not matter, China has absolute superiority in the ground forces, our only and sufficient counterargument is nuclear weapons. The fleet has nothing to do with it at all; it cannot have any significant influence on the course of hostilities.
                Quote: Chicot 1
                But are you sure you think the same way in the leadership of the “great” China? ..

                Of course I am sure. It is enough to look at the words, and most importantly, at the affairs of the leadership of the CPC Central Committee. The task is to make China the strongest economic power in the world, the direction of foreign policy and military efforts is to control the sea, the immediate tasks are to reunite with Taiwan and go beyond the first, and then for the second line of islands.
                But even if we assume that the entire leadership of the CPC went crazy at once and decided to start continental conquests in the north, then even the defenseless Mongolia and Kazakhstan would be hit, and not Russia, which has the largest nuclear arsenal.
        3. Linkor9s21
          Linkor9s21 29 December 2015 18: 16 New
          -6
          It’s even somehow joyful that we don’t have any claims to China in those seas.

          This China should be glad that we have no complaints in those seas, you seem to have begun to forget comrade, who is the nuclear power here))
          1. WINovikov
            WINovikov 29 December 2015 18: 45 New
            0
            But has China ceased to be a nuclear power?
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      2. Sterlya
        Sterlya 29 December 2015 18: 01 New
        +1
        Quote: Vladimirets
        Z, where they will still be transferred. what We would have such a pace. Only I wonder why there AK-176?

        Well, why? The right thing never hurts!
        Suddenly need? winked
      3. Barakuda
        Barakuda 29 December 2015 18: 07 New
        0
        Why, he’s landing. Suddenly, the shore was mined, the Taiwanese maniacs sat down, it would be necessary to fire ... and God forbid the rate of fire there, the barrel gains the desired temperature of shots after 7 ... only give the shells to the machine.
        1. Vladimirets
          Vladimirets 29 December 2015 18: 57 New
          -2
          Quote: Barracuda
          Why, he’s landing. Suddenly, the shore was mined, the Taiwanese maniacs sat down, it would be necessary to fire ... and God forbid the rate of fire there, the barrel gains the desired temperature of shots after 7 ... only give the shells to the machine.

          Well, yes, UDC with 1 (one!) 76mm installation will strongly support the landing. smile
      4. Sterlya
        Sterlya 29 December 2015 19: 04 New
        -1
        Quote: Vladimirets
        HZ, where they will still be transferred. what We would have such a pace. Only I wonder why there AK-176?

        The trouble is what. From the beginning to deal with Glavnyuk. then less poop .... laughing
      5. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 29 December 2015 19: 27 New
        0
        Quote: Vladimirets
        AK-176?

        what did not please?
        Development began by order of the Council of Ministers of the USSR of March 15, 1971 at the Central Research Institute "Petrel" (created on the basis of the Design Bureau of the Gorky Machine-Building Plant in 1970), chief designer G.P. Ryndyk. According to other sources (source), the development of the installation began at the end of 1968 simultaneously with the development of the 57-mm A-220 installation.


        Rate of Fire (modes):
        - 30 rds / min
        - 60 rds / min
        - 120-131 rounds / min
        The interval between queues is minimal - 5-10 seconds
        Reaction time from stowed position - up to 3 minutes
        Reaction time from operational readiness No. 1, taking into account hydraulic reloading, is up to 15 seconds.
        Tracking time - 60 minutes

        Tests have shown that the AK-176 can quite efficiently provide air defense from harpoon and tomahawk anti-ship missiles - up to 25 shells were spent on average on target missiles of the phalanga anti-tank missile. The length of the continuous line according to the manufacturer is 70 shots, but during the test the installation worked with two continuous lines of 75 shots with an interval of 25-30 minutes.

        Ammunition - standardized with a 76.2 mm twin AK-726. To destroy sea and coastal targets, shells with a fuse of shock action VG-67 are used. For anti-aircraft firing, shells with a non-contact radar fuse AR-51L (firing radius of 8 m) are used.
        UZSB-62RP (shot), ZS-63 (shell) - anti-aircraft, unified in size and weight with other shells for installation;
        Mass of explosives - 480 grams (A-IX-2)
        Fuse - AR-51L

        UOFB-62 (shot), OF-62 (projectile) - high-explosive fragmentation, unified in size and weight with other shells for installation;
        Mass of explosives - 400 grams (A-IX-2)
        Fuse - VG-67
        Self-liquidator response time - 28-31 seconds (stolen from the network ....)
        1. Vladimirets
          Vladimirets 29 December 2015 19: 32 New
          0
          Quote: Andrew Y.
          what did not please?

          I’m not talking about the fact that the AU is bad, but about the fact that it’s UDC, in principle, it’s not needed, well, he’s not the only one who will land troops, support ships are needed and his weather setting doesn’t. request
        2. Andrey Yuryevich
          Andrey Yuryevich 29 December 2015 19: 35 New
          0
          no, I understand if the sailor writes, really knowing that this art. installation (ak-176) -nothing, but just like that, stupidly ask a question, why? barrel temperature, yes, but cooling is improving, and firepower is not weak ...
          1. Vladimirets
            Vladimirets 29 December 2015 21: 39 New
            0
            Quote: Andrew Y.
            no, I understand if a sailor who really knows

            No, I understand if the sailor who really knows, or rather, not the sailor, but the tactician who knows the operations of landing amphibious assaults answers. TTX AK-176 I myself can read. Therefore, I ask: why? If there is nothing to justify, then to hell at all to answer?
    2. seti
      seti 29 December 2015 18: 31 New
      +3
      Such ships would not be in the way. Especially given the lack of ships on the Syrian Express line
  2. 76SSSR
    76SSSR 29 December 2015 17: 54 New
    0
    The cargo ship in the photo dwarf seems in comparison.
  3. Denis Obukhov
    Denis Obukhov 29 December 2015 17: 54 New
    +2
    What a strange arrangement, it reminds the contours of a cruiser but with a gun and a hangar :), and it looks like the hangar is two helicopters plus two can be on deck. the French squeeze helicopters and armored vehicles into the mistral 4 times more, with about the same soldier capacity, (this is if Wikipedia is not lying). accordingly, it becomes interesting why the Chinese have a series of such ships from which the landing will not be very fast
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 29 December 2015 18: 14 New
      -1
      Quote: Denis Obukhov
      What a strange arrangement, it reminds the contours of a cruiser but with a gun and a hangar :), and it looks like the hangar is two helicopters plus two can be on deck. the French squeeze helicopters and armored vehicles into the mistral 4 times more, with about the same soldier capacity, (this is if Wikipedia is not lying). accordingly, it becomes interesting why the Chinese have a series of such ships from which the landing will not be very fast

      It's simple - this is not UDC, but a cheaper landing dock ship. Chinese "Harpers Ferry" or even "San Antonio" with a rudiment from the BDK in the form of a bow AK-176. smile
      Its task is to deliver the landing party with equipment to the landing area and land it with boats from the docking chamber (4 helicopters can also be used for landing l / s). The main landing craft is boats. Supporting an airborne landing on its own is hardly possible.
      1. Vladimirets
        Vladimirets 29 December 2015 18: 59 New
        0
        Quote: Alexey RA
        Quote: Denis Obukhov
        What a strange arrangement, it reminds the contours of a cruiser but with a gun and a hangar :), and it looks like the hangar is two helicopters plus two can be on deck. the French squeeze helicopters and armored vehicles into the mistral 4 times more, with about the same soldier capacity, (this is if Wikipedia is not lying). accordingly, it becomes interesting why the Chinese have a series of such ships from which the landing will not be very fast

        Another over-commented comment from Den.Obukhov laughing http://bmpd.livejournal.com/78789.html
      2. Andrey Yuryevich
        Andrey Yuryevich 29 December 2015 19: 37 New
        -1
        Quote: Alexey RA

        It's simple - this is not UDC, but a cheaper landing dock ship.

        I’ll add to the above, there’s a hospital, for a fair amount of places ... (this is important)
    2. donavi49
      donavi49 29 December 2015 19: 05 New
      +3
      4 helicopter inside in the layout 2хZ-8 + 2хZ-9.

      As for the quick landing, he has a good idea here. The feature of the project is the largest dock camera, actually until the end of the add-in. 4 LCAC climb there (for example, in Mistral 2, and in Wosp 3).

      Plus, in the waiting room (in the nose, an additional amphibious technique can be placed, which, following LCAC, will go in the first wave on its own.
  4. Jozhkin Cat
    Jozhkin Cat 29 December 2015 17: 54 New
    -3
    Nice ship, not like American broilers. Why so few weapons, missiles RCC de?
    1. Wiruz
      Wiruz 29 December 2015 18: 01 New
      -2
      Why so few weapons, missiles RCC de?

      Bring back my plus. I accidentally put it to you! laughing

      You probably did not quite understand the purpose of this ship. This is a landing ship! hi
      1. Jozhkin Cat
        Jozhkin Cat 29 December 2015 18: 09 New
        +1
        he will not swim before landing hi
        1. Wiruz
          Wiruz 29 December 2015 18: 10 New
          -2
          he will not swim before landing

          Why so? belay
          1. Alexey RA
            Alexey RA 29 December 2015 18: 41 New
            -1
            Quote: Wiruz
            he will not swim before landing

            Why so? belay

            Duc ... this ... there are no "calibers", no "clubs", no AK-130, no armor either. So - will not swim! And do not care that this is just DKD. laughing

            Chihiks ... I immediately remembered the Khalzan story when, after fulfilling all the requirements of the Navy's security, survivability and armament, the landing helicopter carrier on the battalion of marines entered only the 1143 project corps. smile
  5. Pirogov
    Pirogov 29 December 2015 17: 55 New
    0
    Yes, China at such a pace in ten years and the United States will catch up with the fleet.
    1. Chicot 1
      Chicot 1 29 December 2015 18: 12 New
      +2
      Quote: Pirogov
      Yes, China at such a pace in ten years and the United States will catch up with the fleet.

      They will at least catch up with it, at least overtake it, at least overtake in quantity, but ... The Han people will not get much from this ... For one simple reason - they still do not know how to handle large operational formations on the ocean. But the Americans have this experience. And without it, there is nothing to do in the Pacific (yes, and in any other) ocean ...

      Han people are studying hard now. Conduct exercises and maneuvers. Including joint ones ... Ours have agreed to help them in this ... The whole question is just why? .. Formally, help a neighbor and "partner", but in reality we train our very likely opponent (and this time without quotes) ) ...
  6. afdjhbn67
    afdjhbn67 29 December 2015 18: 00 New
    0
    It’s sad and insulting - we didn’t even build 2 Mistral, we couldn’t even buy it — one talk and a mess .. and at the same time almost give out a victory for our diplomacy .. a zombie box drives fellow
    1. Jozhkin Cat
      Jozhkin Cat 29 December 2015 18: 03 New
      -3
      And where to apply them? At least theoretically.
      1. afdjhbn67
        afdjhbn67 29 December 2015 18: 10 New
        0
        Quote: Jozhkin the Cat
        And where to apply them? At least theoretically

        And why buy them - purely practical?
        1. Jozhkin Cat
          Jozhkin Cat 29 December 2015 18: 15 New
          +3
          Probably wanted to invest in real estate request
          1. afdjhbn67
            afdjhbn67 29 December 2015 18: 29 New
            -1
            Quote: Jozhkin the Cat
            Probably wanted to invest in real estate

            It seems like ... why then - "new technologies" and the rest I will give dada laughing
      2. pellets
        pellets 29 December 2015 18: 14 New
        0
        At the moment, instead of bulk carriers bought from Turkey. Apparently the Mistrals for this were "then built." Why ammunition is delivered to Syria by everyone, is the efficiency of using the existing BFK BDK clear too ?!
  7. vyinemeynen
    vyinemeynen 29 December 2015 18: 06 New
    0
    It looks very dirty. recourse
    1. Wiruz
      Wiruz 29 December 2015 18: 15 New
      0
      But they have it recourse
      1. cap
        cap 29 December 2015 20: 11 New
        -3
        Quote: Wiruz
        But they have it recourse

        There is no reception against scrap.
        MODIFICATIONS
        Bastion-P (K300P index) is a mobile version of the complex based on the MZKT-7930 chassis.

        COMPOSITION
        The Bastion-P mobile anti-ship complex includes:
        - Anti-ship missiles "Onyx" in the transport-launch glass;
        - K-340P self-propelled launchers on the MZKT-7930 chassis (crew - 3 people);
        - K-380R combat control vehicle on the KamAZ-43101 chassis (crew - 5 people);
        - Equipment for information and technical interfacing of combat assets of the complex with the head command post;
        - Automated system of combat control of the complex;
        - A set of maintenance tools.

        In addition to the anti-ship complex "Bastion-P" can be delivered:
        - Transport-loading machines K-342P;
        - Machines ensure combat duty;
        - Training facilities;
        - Helicopter target designation.
        Can be equipped with self-propelled over-the-horizon radar for detecting air and surface targets "Monolith-B"
        TECH SPECS:
        Firing range:
        - along a combined trajectory of 300 km
        - 120 km along a low-altitude trajectory
        Flight altitude:
        - on the marching section of the trajectory 14000-15000 m
        - on a low altitude trajectory of 10-15 m
        - at the target 5-15 m
        Airspeed:
        - at an altitude of 15 km 750m / s (2.6M)
        - on a low altitude trajectory 2.0M
        Missile length 8000 mm
        Wingspan 1700 mm
        Starting weight 3000 kg
        Weight TPK 3900 kg
        Warhead
        Penetrating type
        Weight 200-250 kg
        Homing head
        - range up to 80 km
        - target capture angle +/- 45 degrees
        - availability time 2 min
        - weight 89 kg
        The Bastion complex provides coastal defense with a length of over 600 km from landing operations of the enemy, a distant frontier of the political and administrative region as part of a unified coastal defense system. Already standing where necessary. hi
        1. cap
          cap 29 December 2015 20: 19 New
          0
          The Bastion coastal missile system with the Onyx unified supersonic homing anti-ship missile is designed to destroy surface ships of various classes and types from amphibious assault forces, convoys, naval and aircraft carrier attack groups, as well as single ships and ground-based radio contrast targets in conditions of intense fire and electronic countermeasures "
          "Welcome" to Vladivostok Project071.
          Laolin, or whatever it is, can be grabbed to the heaplaughing
  8. Rosty
    Rosty 29 December 2015 18: 12 New
    +3
    In China, one of the largest world shipbuilding industries in the world. Look at satellite images of southeast China - it looks like a comb, because of the moorings of shipbuilding companies. The quality is controversial, metallurgy is lagging, but they are progressing rapidly. Cause? State support for the industry and the absence of taxes on this type of engineering. Plus localization - its engines, cranes with heavy lifting capacity, etc.
    Public policy should be, first of all. Everything is in order with the designers there, they invest money in education without sparing. And here we have ... Previously, large shipyards had their own institutes and vocational schools. Now they can’t find welders, not enough for all plants.
  9. Cobra77
    Cobra77 29 December 2015 18: 13 New
    0
    Quote: Pirogov
    Yes, China at such a pace in ten years and the United States will catch up with the fleet.


    In quantity it may still be, but not in quality. No matter how we treat mattresses, they have the best fleet on this globe and remain so for a very long time. China is unlikely to be able to catch up with him in the next 10-15 years. Yes, China does not really need this. He has no tasks for this.
  10. Great-grandfather of Zeus
    Great-grandfather of Zeus 29 December 2015 18: 15 New
    0
    Yes, the Chinese do not take care of the fleet as a child; there is certainly a fleet development strategy and a concept for its practical use ... we should build at such a pace!
  11. awersa
    awersa 29 December 2015 18: 15 New
    +1
    To prevent this giant from being sunk by the first torpedo, it’s necessary to drive a couple of destroyers with it with a trailer ...
    1. Alexey RA
      Alexey RA 29 December 2015 18: 20 New
      +2
      Quote: awersa
      To prevent this giant from being sunk by the first torpedo, it’s necessary to drive a couple of destroyers with it with a trailer ...

      This is true for any landing craft.

      However, in the USSR it was believed that the Yankees planned to use, among other things, as PLO aircraft carriers - to cover the transatlantic transfer of the main US forces from the Metropolis to Europe. Yes, and our UDC grew out of anti-submarine ships ("Khalzan" was at first "cheap helicopter carrier PLO).
      1. pellets
        pellets 29 December 2015 18: 35 New
        -1
        In "peacetime" as today, our BF Black Sea Fleet ply the Russian Federation - Syria is in solo swimming, why not ?!
    2. donavi49
      donavi49 29 December 2015 19: 15 New
      +2
      Well, they have them and are being built at an accelerated pace.
  12. Cobra77
    Cobra77 29 December 2015 18: 26 New
    0
    Are they preparing for # Taiwan? :)
  13. sailor roman
    sailor roman 29 December 2015 18: 38 New
    -1
    In my opinion, such insignificant armament, a small number of helicopters, and the quantity of floating assault landing craft are not indicated at all to such dimensions and displacement.
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 29 December 2015 19: 14 New
      +4
      Why weapons landing ship? Each ton allocated to armament - robs him per ton of this basic functionality. This is the same as resenting why the frigate does not have a cargo hold and a container loader crane.

      On the new 2 ships, triples (this and another 2 under construction) should have seemed to add the HHQ-10 complex for which, their analogue of RIM has been completed.

      This is generally a leader by landing gear, 4 LCAC or 8 of large barges climb into it. There is a docking camera under 100 meters.
  14. moskowit
    moskowit 29 December 2015 18: 58 New
    +1
    The yellowstone of the Celestial sons is actively preparing for the return of their and "as if" their islands ...
    1. YURIY888
      YURIY888 29 December 2015 20: 56 New
      0
      Do you think that they have "how," and we have "not how" ....?
      1. Phantom Revolution
        Phantom Revolution 29 December 2015 21: 37 New
        0
        Quote: YURIY888
        Do you think that they have "how," and we have "not how" ....?

        At the moment, we are in their last place, if only because another strong enemy is not needed at hand, until other disputes with neighbors like Taiwan, Korea, the Philippines, Japan and others have been settled one way or another.
  15. NUR
    NUR 29 December 2015 19: 48 New
    0
    China stamps ships like hot cakes because they did not have perestroika and glasnost and look less into the mouth of the west.
  16. afrikanez
    afrikanez 29 December 2015 20: 24 New
    -1
    In the photo it seems like a new ship, but why is it so rusty? Well then what will happen to him, they will bend to paint it.
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 29 December 2015 21: 29 New
      0
      This is typical for everyone here, too, a new ship with a similar outfitting period, before painting.
      1. donavi49
        donavi49 29 December 2015 21: 35 New
        +1
        He is after painting.
  17. From Samara
    From Samara 29 December 2015 21: 42 New
    -3
    The PLA fleet is still doubtful ...
  18. Dimon19661
    Dimon19661 30 December 2015 01: 40 New
    +1
    Once we built new ships of the ocean zone at an accelerated pace. And now more and more boats, 1-2 per year (((
  19. Evil 55
    Evil 55 30 December 2015 05: 45 New
    0
    An interesting dish ... I would like to see something similar under the Russian flag ...