Constructor: found a method that allows you to create computers in mini-torpedoes

A group of Russian scientists led by the General Designer of CAD (Computer Aided Design) systems, academician Shamil Aliyev, developed a unique method that allows you to create computers for the next-generation mini-torpedoes, reports RIA News.

“We found a unique method of multiple compression and splitting of a signal based on a bipolar hydrodynamic model of a special surface. This allows the next-generation mini-torpedoes to create new on-board computers that can simultaneously serve submarines and surface ships, as well as aerospace information systems. ”- said Aliyev.

“World torpedo building is now abandoning heavy and light torpedoes,” he explained.

“Ultra-small torpedoes and ultra-large requirements for onboard computing components are the main direction of development of the world torpedo building. This is evidenced by the new project of the American ultra-small torpedoes CVL WT, ”said the designer.

Comments

[Alex_Rarog]

I hope these developments will not be removed to the far box ... And our weapons will be the best in everything ...

[Vadim237]

And what have we recently cleaned in a distant box?

[Alex_Rarog]

Well, when was the last time we put into service new torpedoes? What was no development? There were ... And now there is no money, sanctions ...

[Kent0001]

The main thing is that the entire elemental base should be of its own production.

[dauria]

so that the entire elemental base is of its own production.

To do this, the entire industry must be raised from scratch. Either everything is very secret, or it is not. Not a single Russian analogue of the same PIC. ATMEL or texas instrument. What can be blinded without microcontrollers now? Damn, except for the microwave direction, at least someone is moving? Specialists, comfort the old paranoid. And then these creatures already have 8 nm in use

[Genry]

Quote: dauria

And then these creatures already have 8 nm in motion

The throw-in is not protected!

Quote: dauria

Not a single Russian analog of the same PIC. ATMEL or texas tool.

Judging by the fact that you put these rulers in one row, you do not even know their scope.

For the military, there are MCST Elbrus processors of various configurations, with or without a digital signal processing unit.

[dmi.pris1]

Do you know when Elbrus was developed? ... The first versions in the 80s .. accordingly, the level remained ..

Quote: Genry

Quote: dauria

And then these creatures already have 8 nm in motion

The throw-in is not protected!

Quote: dauria

Not a single Russian analog of the same PIC. ATMEL or texas tool.

Judging by the fact that you put these rulers in one row, you do not even know their scope.

For the military, there are MCST Elbrus processors of various configurations, with or without a digital signal processing unit.

[derik1970]

What you refer to as "stuffing" is just a statement of fact. The level of electronics is below the plinth, where you can’t look everywhere are the same foreign chips, from devices of the simplest pressure and temperature sensors, PLCs, and so on that we even use at nuclear power plants. For example, the Metran plant is 100% owned by Emerson Electric, see for yourself what it produces.
We cannot manufacture our cell phones, our computers, etc. what can we talk about, what element base ?! Yes, it seems like we have developments on paper on processors, but it’s all paper, there is no real opportunity to produce something, it was smooth on paper and they forgot about the ravines, the developments are carried out under the existing technological process and we simply don’t have it ...
There were statements that we produce cell phones, but in China, and this is generally nothing to talk about. China, we are still those friends, as it were, it was not necessary to fight with them.
What is being released for the military is not serious, all of them use the development of the Chinese chips there, whatever our experts would be smart there, there is no mass production. The development of logical devices, microcircuits, processors requires competent mathematicians, engineers, physicists, chemists, but to produce products you need your own plants, you need your own factories and a bunch of physicists, chemists, research institutes, institutes and much more, whole branches need to develop and support, and not to say that on paper we have a lot of things invented, only real products do not exist. Where is all, nowhere else! And in general, the industrialization of the country is required as under Stalin.
The scope of PIC, Atmel, Texas instrument controllers is very wide, from civilian devices to military ones. It all depends on the operating conditions, and often in the datasheet for these devices it is written what is for the military and what is for civilians. A bunch of software and circuits have been developed for studying such controllers, literally take it and study it, train new specialists, we have nothing like it and will never have it. MCST "Elbrus" was developed under the king of peas, the technologies are respectively the same. I am 100% sure that the Elbrus processor harness is made on the western element base, from ours there is only mathematics, software and nothing more. So, in reality, it is necessary to raise the industry from scratch, in terms of the element base, in machine tool construction, and so on.

[dmi.pris1]

Unfortunately, there is nothing to please .. In Zelenograd, they are collecting something 32 nm, trying to reach 16 nm .. Twenty years of devastation is difficult to overcome - for example, in Smolensk there was an instrument-making cluster, as they say now, the Diffusion software (completely plundered) " Iskra "(produced by the Soviet PC plant is closed), the radio components plant is slightly glowing, the only production of switching elements in Russia. In short, sadness ..

Quote: dauria

so that the entire elemental base is of its own production.

To do this, the entire industry must be raised from scratch. Either everything is very secret, or it is not. Not a single Russian analogue of the same PIC. ATMEL or texas instrument. What can be blinded without microcontrollers now? Damn, except for the microwave direction, at least someone is moving? Specialists, comfort the old paranoid. And then these creatures already have 8 nm in use

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Alex_Rarog

Well, when was the last time we put into service new torpedoes? What was no development? There were ... And now there is no money, sanctions ...

In 2010, when the "Package-NK" was finally finished, work on which had been dragging on since the days of the USSR.

[79807420129]

Quote: Alex_Rarog

I hope these developments will not be removed to the far box ... And our weapons will be the best in everything ...

Here is the longest drawer of the worst, then when the fried rooster pecks, the rush begins.

[Nevsky_ZU]

Eh, the civil sphere still needs to be tightened up. So the liberals got bored with the question: "Why are you then sitting at the South Korean PC and on the American Internet?

[Denis Obukhov]

Quote: Nevsky_ZU

Eh, the civil sphere still needs to be tightened up. So the liberals got bored with the question: "Why are you then sitting at the South Korean PC and on the American Internet?

High technologies in the service of the common man have never been a vector in the politics and economics of the Russian state, due to the lack of competitiveness of these technologies in domestic use, the chronological lag in the processes of their implementation: from the idea to the counter in the store, or because there is no such implementation at all ...

[Vita vko]

Quote: Denis Obukhov

for reasons of non-competitiveness of these technologies in domestic use, chronological lag in the processes of their implementation:

Rather, the reason is the lack of a mechanism for transferring these technologies to commercial organizations. No bank in the world will provide loans for many years of research with an incomprehensible result. Such research can only be funded by the state. But even after their appearance, it is very difficult to imagine a company that can pay for the entire research cycle and remain competitive.
But what is most unclear is the scope of the technology

the method of multiple compression and splitting of the signal based on the bipolar hydrodynamic model of a special surface

. Why only on-board computers for mini torpedoes? Any microelectronics has an extremely wide range of applications, especially domestic.

[Chatlanen]

Quote: Nevsky_ZU

Eh, the civil sphere still needs to be tightened up. So the liberals got bored with the question: "Why are you then sitting at the South Korean PC and on the American Internet?

What other sphere should I tighten? (It may immediately go into space)) I finally can’t understand what they came up with, what they eat with)), but the next generation torpedoes without this ... well, nothing ... It looks like SOI-V2.0))

[Vadim237]

These are underwater SOI 2.

[Corsair]

Quote: Nevsky_ZU

Eh, the civil sphere still needs to be tightened up. So the liberals got bored with the question: "Why are you then sitting at the South Korean PC and on the American Internet?

For the most part, the Internet is its own (servers are located in Moscow, St. Petersburg and other large cities); most users who are not strongly attached to Google, foreign sites and online games would not even notice the disconnection of the import segment.
On computers, of course, an ambush, on the other hand, Americans are also sitting on the same Korean or Chinese computers (if you take the place of release of the majority). The problem is the lack of a working conveyor base, relatively cheap processors and an operating system, but their sales market is simply gigantic - institutions where you do not need to use special software and the main type of work - print text and view this or that type of media, collect information from the Internet .

[EvgNik]

Quote: Nevsky_ZU

why are you sitting then on a South Korean PC and on the American Internet

Today I tried the Russian Sputnik browser. No ice. The search engine works poorly. Even the mail does not open. We need a major overhaul. Left-handed or hungover. And I really want the software to be ours.

[NEXUS]

Quote: EvgNik

Today I tried the Russian Sputnik browser. No ice. The search engine works poorly. Even the mail does not open. We need a major overhaul. Left-handed or hungover. And I really want the software to be ours.

They are working on the software very hard. In addition, the "Baikal" processor is at the stage of the series, which Lenovo has already decided to install on new laptops, PCs and tablets ... for that small infe that is on the internet, our processor is in no way inferior to imported products ... In general, the guys are working, and with the software, I think everything will be fine. We have the best programmers in the world and this is not bragging, but a fact confirmed by the whole world.

[Aleks.Antonov]

The "Baikal-T1" processor is quite interesting. We also plan to make a line of microcontrollers based on it. But where is its production? In Taiwan. I understand everything, the international division of labor ... In the morning a factory in Taiwan rivets microprocessors for the Pentagon, and in the afternoon for the RF Ministry of Defense. However, tomorrow the mattress covers will stamp their feet, and a factory in Taiwan will impose sanctions against the Russian Federation. Something like that. Where is your own microelectronics? The Elbrus processor manufacturing plant has been turned into a Retail shopping center. The owners of this shopping center are delighted with the building's ventilation and air conditioning system. A huge number of enterprises producing capacitors, resistors, relays, etc. etc. just destroyed. And then we are indignant why there were imported memory chips in the "black box" of the bomber. Because we haven't done them for a long time! Not only do we not do it. So even the manufacturer does not require the fulfillment of our requirements.

[komandir8]

The Internet does not have an owner, since it is a collection of networks that have different geographical affiliations.
The Internet cannot be turned off entirely, since network routers do not have a single external control.

[Blondy]

Constructor: a method was found that allows you to create computers in mini torpedoes

Either I became completely blonde, or something anonymous atoror already completely moved.
Does this unfortunate computer need to be created precisely in the miniperped, or can developments be carried out all the same in somewhat more ergonomic conditions?

[Meckajiuhe]

The smaller the computing system, the better it can be protected. And the more warheads can be made, all other things being equal. Excellent.

[tolmachiev51]

"Black box" SU24 showed all our developments in the field of electronics !!! we have a chasm from development to implementation, at best we will see our development behind the cordon at work.

[Denis Obukhov]

A set of words: it is completely incomprehensible how a new method can help in creating an on-board computer.

[vadimtt]

I understand that we are talking about the good old analog computers? Or about the ultrasonic (mechanical) Fourier processor? Something in the Civil Code came up with a very abstruse phrase, with an incomprehensible causal relationship

[Andrey Yuryevich]

[quote = vadimtt] Something in the Civil Code came up with a very abstruse phrase, with an incomprehensible causal connection [/ quote) -this is more likely to apply to you ...

[afdjhbn67]

Quote: Andrey Yurievich

-This is more likely to apply to you ...

Judging by the fact that it is voiced in the public domain - another - having no analogues in the world

[Alexey RA]

Quote: vadimtt

Or about the ultrasonic (mechanical) Fourier processor?

Acoustooptics?

[vadimtt]

Something like that
The main thing is that Alimov (GK) now does not know that in addition to Fourier filtration there is a more powerful Kalman filtration, and in it you will not get off with one "bipolar hydrodynamic model of a special surface", you need to make many such models
Article seems to banter (trolling) clear water

[varov14]

The main thing is that it quietly adjoins the "backside" of the American aircraft carrier, or into the rift near the American coast.

[GRAY]

I realized that I didn’t understand anything.

[Stinger]

I think the author also did not understand a damn thing. Mini information. Nanochubais.

[novobranets]

The author will wake up in the morning, hangover, read his opus and commit suicide.

[Al_lexx]

+1

What a transgalactic megaloplasma.

[podgornovea]

Didn’t understand something? This is what in Russian means translate somebody please!

"This allows the next generation of mini-torpedoes to create new on-board computers capable of simultaneously serving submarines and surface ships, as well as aerospace information systems."

How will computers of mini-torpedoes serve both submarines and surface ships at the same time? Can track? Or maybe it meant that it can be used on both submarine and surface ships? And how then to understand "as well as aerospace information systems" will it serve them, track them, shoot them, lick them, or what else?

Something is not right here.
"Muddle instead of music" :)

[region58]

Quote: podgornovea

This is what in Russian means translate somebody please!

Yes, it is impossible to grasp the meaning in this set of words and sentences. The impression that Klitschko was interviewed ...

PS To the participants who "warmly support" the topic and add the article, please: educate the people about what it is? I was so worn out all over ... I won’t sleep at night, I’ll guess ...

[russmensch]

"The world torpedo industry is now refusing heavy and light torpedoes"
“Ultra-small torpedoes and extra-large requirements for on-board computing components are the main direction in the development of world torpedo-building.

Ultra-small torpedo will not be able to carry large charges. And who needs waterfowl crackers?
I do not understand anything ...

[Monos]

And what is a mini torpedo? And what kind of nonsense fills the article? Is this a charade?

[Al_lexx]

Quote: Monos

And what is a mini torpedo? And what kind of nonsense fills the article? Is this a charade?

Join the question?

..
For what specific facilities such weapons can work, not a damn thing is clear. There, neither a normal warhead, nor an engine can be delivered. If only inflatable boats to drown from under water. )))

[Bayonet]

Quote: Al_lexx

For what specific facilities such weapons can work, it’s not clear

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Monos

And what is a mini torpedo?

It seems to me that this is NATO’s all-in-one caliber 324 mm, which is now being replaced instead of the lengthy 533 mm and 400 mm.

[Monos]

It seems to me that this is NATO’s all-in-one caliber 324 mm, which is now being replaced instead of the lengthy 533 mm and 400 mm.

You think? But this is nonsense. Of course, I am not a specialist in naval weapons, but it seems to me that the diversity of weapons (especially in torpedoes) is fraught for the Navy with more severe hemorrhoids. This is another Russo-Japanese war showed.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Monos

You think? But this is nonsense. Of course, I am not a specialist in naval weapons, but it seems to me that the diversity of weapons (especially in torpedoes) is fraught for the Navy with more severe hemorrhoids. This is another Russo-Japanese war showed.

And there won't be any big variety. There will be, as before, 3 calibers: 650-mm "super-heavy", 533-mm "heavy" and 324-mm "light". It's just that instead of 400 mm there will be 324 mm.
The concept of "heavy and light torpedoes" exists in almost all fleets. Our only difference is Russian long lance - 650 mm torpedo.

[Black Colonel]

simultaneously serve submarine and surface ships,
I liked this phrase the most

[novobranets]

Quote: Black Colonel

simultaneously serve submarine and surface ships,

Well, where to clean the rust, pecking shells, not expensive.

[Great-grandfather of Zeus]

Firstly, do we have mini torpedoes in service now? And secondly, that the adversary is not at all friendly with his head to allow us to practically sink his ships point-blank with impunity? World tendency, is there a hidden trap for our navy in this? In my mind, they gently slipped an unpromising direction to us, and we immediately grabbed it, in the hope that we would create a "mega-super-super-torpedo" capable of drowning everything from ciliates in shoes to an atomic aircraft carrier! But how many and what kind of explosives will be in this torpedo? whether the carrier of these torpedoes will die from nearby explosions behind its side? although anyway, this is a weapon for kamikaze, because it is unnoticed to approach a battleship for a torpedo shot at point-blank range, and not only to come up and make a volley, but also then to dump alive, the chances are equal to fractions of a percent.

[Alexey RA]

Quote: Great-grandfather of Zeus

First of all, are we currently armed with minidorpedas?

There is. Caliber 324 mm. Against the background of traditional 400-mm and 533-mm - quite a "mini".

Quote: Great-grandfather of Zeus

and secondly, and that the adversary is not at all friendly with his head in order to allow us to virtually drown his ships with impunity with emphasis?

Why point blank? 324 mm torpedoes have been put on PLUR for more than half a century, which deliver them where to.

[2s1122]

Nenado to complain about the words to whom he needs to understand

[Cobra77]

Quote: 2s1122

Nenado to complain about the words to whom he needs to understand

Awww, respond like that. Explain to the wretched ....

[tolmachiev51]

It would be nice to find a manufacturer !!! because on this path we have two powerful "brakes" - the time has not come, or there is no money.

[sa-ag]

can still create computers for torpedoes, and not somehow make them in torpedoes? :-)

[Riv]

What words! And how much ... "based on a bipolar hydrodynamic model of a special surface" - this is something! And most importantly: "to serve submarines and surface ships, as well as aerospace information systems."

Here I was somehow called a man poisoned by a technical education. Actually twice poisoned. A real technofascist, if you want. But I didn’t understand anything from this article. And do not tell me that someone from the commentators said these clever phrases at least something. Well, what side will a surface model help create an aerospace information system? And what side are the torpedoes here? Will they be launched from space?

Nonsense...

[sailor roman]

I agree, nonsense. Currently, Russia and the United States are just developing and testing large torpedoes and autonomous uninhabited underwater vehicles. For this, old ones are being converted and new submarines are being built.

[Rrrj]

And I also liked the wiring of the board in the figure - you can see the master did it with his hands from one place.

[Zeppelin ml.]

Quote: Riv

Nonsense...

nothing, nothing Riv, soon we will catch the graviton with a new hadron - this is where adversaries are and give an answer

Quote: Riv

"based on a bipolar hydrodynamic model of a special surface"

!!

Quote: Riv

Here I was somehow called a man poisoned by a technical education.

Well, it obviously bothers you. Relax, watch (and listen) "" Back to the future ... " Or "The Secret of Two Oceans"

[Bayonet]

Quote: Riv

And do not tell me that someone from the commentators said these clever phrases at least something.

[Svetlana]

Meanwhile, a photon processor has already been assembled on the other side ..
The processor has a small size (only 3 by 6 millimeters) and two cores. The processor structure is not completely photonic, but its 850 optical I / O elements give it dizzying bandwidth compared to chips that rely on one electricity - 300 gigabytes per square millimeter That is 10-50 times higher than that of intel core i7. See http://hi-news.ru/technology/uchyonye-sozdali-dejstvuyushhij-fotonnyj-processor.

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[Cobra77]

"Elderberry in the garden and uncle in Kiev". Some set of scientific terms is not related to each other. Reminds me of a lousy SEO article to be honest. Buy plastic windows without SMS ....

[sir_obs]

Why are you attached to the word mini
It is necessary to take the amendment. 0, our mini-computer does not fit into the usual torpedo, as it is not regrettable. This is so for intrigue.

And if seriously, then in general some kind of nonsense. Or is it so secret that we are not able to believe and appreciate it.

[Barakuda]

But why ? Set the task to the appropriate KB, and everyone is bungled on the same Chinese ms. Torpedo live a couple of hours. As I understand it, the article deals with the methods of designing and modeling circuitry by some ingenious mathematical model.

[lilian]

found a method that allows you to create computers in mini torpedoes

At first I thought that I was unfamiliar with all the riches of the Russian language, but since it’s true, it disturbs me from the title, you can understand it like this:

Now you can create computers directly in the torpedoes themselves.
The title of the article about the production of the Ka-226 in India is also a mistake. If you can still forgive in the text, but the title, this is more important.

[kiparis]

For enemies, can it be said? Let the head break? Sneakily so on the wrong path sent?

[Gunther]

Lilian, Alexey - a true remark.
To create a modern computer, we need a modern elementary base, which we do not have, at best, it is our development + factory production in Southeast Asia.
Domestic processors reduced
lagging behind Intel and AMD, but still 10 years behind, alas, lagging behind.
And what side of signal splitting based on the bipolar hydrodynamic model of a special surface concerns the creation of a computer?
Perhaps only the master gridasov is able to explain this)

... testifies and new
project of the American ultra-small torpedo CVL WT

And the yankels had a project of SDI)))
Further, the ultra-small torpedoes, in the ultra-small torpedoes and the warhead, have a corresponding radius of destruction, which limits its application.

[Svetlana]

Quote: Gunter

What side of signal splitting based on the bipolar hydrodynamic model of a special surface concerns the creation of a computer?

Probably we mean motherboard multilayer printed circuit boards of a cylindrical, annular or spiral shape. With such forms, it is convenient to cool the microcircuit on the board with an axial helium flow, it is convenient to insert the board into the torpedo body.

[tinibar]

Quote: Alex_Rarog

I hope these developments will not be removed to the far box ... And our weapons will be the best in everything ...

And not in a desk drawer at the CIA or the Pentagon ...

[bird]

uh, my version is that the correspondent got stoned and collected at least three topics that were led and are being led by a truly extraordinary person Shamil Aliyev: a mathematical model of a cavitation cavity of rocket-torpedoes of the "squall" type (like there is a "hydrodynamic model of a complex surface"), the topic of micro-torpedoes, and the topic of algorithms for the behavior of torpedo weapons. Here is a link to the interview where the author talks about it in more or less detail. http://ria.ru/interview/20130617/943381134.html
the second version - grandfather himself mixed all these topics in old age or I just catch up with genius.

[Svetlana]

"The world torpedo industry is now refusing heavy and light torpedoes"

But what about Status-6?

[AlexAl]

And I liked the position - CAD general designer !!!
I want the same.