China intends to use Su-35 purchased from the Russian Federation to patrol disputed islands

China plans to use Su-35 fighters purchased in Russia to patrol disputed territories in the South China Sea, reports Look with reference to the portal Defense World.

According to the resource, it was the tense situation around the disputed islands that led the Chinese to the decision to conclude a contract for the purchase of Russian aircraft.

“China plans to counter the Su-35 American threat. Now Beijing is developing two fifth-generation fighter jets at once (J-20 and J-31), but it takes time to build them, and effective combat aircraft are needed now, ”the portal writes.

It is planned that in the disputed areas the fighters will be on duty around the clock - “the ability of the aircraft to take off from a short runway will allow them to be placed on the artificial islands themselves,” writes the resource.

In addition, according to Defense World, Russia will transmit to China "a number of technologies, such as the Irbis-E radar, capable of detecting the American stealth aircraft F-35 90 kilometers away, and the Russian 117С engine."

Earlier, a TASS source reported that “fighters will be handed over to the People's Republic of China in the standard version (for the Russian Aerospace Force of the Russian Federation). The issues of their "chinaization" are currently being coordinated with the Chinese side and will be formalized with a separate contract. "

Vzglyad reminds that in November, Beijing signed a contract with Moscow for the purchase of the X-NUMX-x of the latest SU-24 multi-role fighters.

Comments

[Sterlya]

In short, the Chinese decided to speed up the creation of their! Analogs of the Su-35. And before the planes of the 5th generation, I’m afraid they are not enough. But knowing the stubbornness of the Chinese. Will create.

[Al_lexx]

Yeah. Ten years later and with a resource of several tens of hours. )))

[Sterlya]

Quote: Al_lexx

Yeah. Ten years later and with a resource of several tens of hours. )))

They are already creating not bad things. Everything is dictated by the market.
I needed a cheap consumer goods, and so on you. Need a dear reliable, they will do. There would be a demand. They already have some experience.
So do not think that China will forever drive the rawhide. (my opinion)

[Al_lexx]

The market dictates everything correctly. Figl they do not, if the equipment is American and European, with rare exceptions? And in terms of cheap consumer goods, that’s how he went and goes only to Russia and only because it is our merchants who ask for such goods.
In America, two-thirds of consumer goods are Chinese. Despite the fact that few people complain about quality. Because for America.
But here's the thing .. A modern fighter, this is not a microwave. And if they could make good engines, they would not buy these dryers. If you are not aware of the details of the contract, then the Chinese wanted to buy exactly and only the engines, since theirs do not stand up to any criticism regarding the reliability and resource. But ours said that to figs. Like, buy all the planes, as well as our spare parts and general technical support.
And the fact that they are thrown at the hottest section of the Chinese border speaks volumes.

..
Yes, when the thread is done. But they still will very, very much need time to develop their engineering school and keep up with us. Hardly sooner than through 15-20let. But to me personally, then it will all be completely in the big orchestral.

[dauria]

But they still need a very, very long time to build up their engineering school and keep up with us.

It is a pity that by that time our own school (already lame) is not something that "in step", it will just crawl. The designer is tied to industry capabilities and available technologies. And with this the trouble.

[leon-iv]

What technologies are you talking about?

[dauria]

What technologies are you talking about?

For example? Try to design a simple thing, at least a video card for your computer, without using foreign element base and technologies for manufacturing and assembling a printed circuit board (at least suitable for use, not something "advanced"). Or a "smart" and size-appropriate filling of a 57 mm projectile. Or a line for the production of composite panels, as for the F-35.

The British "invented" the plating of the bottoms of sailing ships with copper, why did the French and Spaniards not "invented" this? Yes, they simply did not have copper or rolled products in the required quantities.

[Sterlya]

Quote: Al_lexx

But here's the thing .. A modern fighter, this is not a microwave. And if they could make good engines, they would not buy these dryers. If you are not aware of the details of the contract, then the Chinese wanted to buy exactly and only the engines, since theirs do not stand up to any criticism regarding the reliability and resource. But ours said that to figs. Like, buy all the planes, as well as our spare parts and general technical support.

So you just don’t tell them that at the end you need to process the file ....
I mean, if you sold it, it means that the technology will not be disclosed.
Unless there is another Belenko. who will already be able to transfer technology. Yes, I think about this, too, were insured. Once so valuable.

[Sharapov]

Yeah, already created. But for some reason, at the tank biathlon, our tank overtook the steep Chinese as a standing one?

[Lex.]

They are already creating not bad things. Everything is dictated by the market.
But what about your engine?
So the Chinese do not have a school in engine building and the fighter engine means a lot

[Skifotavr]

Why create when you can copy? They are especially interested in the engine and radar. For this, they are acquired. Everyone already knows about it, but Russia is afraid to refuse.

[remy]

the main thing is not to rush. nevertheless, China needs to sell the lightened (not serial) version of the fighter, such as the Su-35K, by analogy with the Su-30MKI / MK, etc. Well, like the Chinese, Algerian, Indian version of the aircraft.

[Denis Obukhov]

Quote: Skifotavr

Why create when you can copy? They are especially interested in the engine and radar. For this, they are acquired. Everyone already knows about it, but Russia is afraid to refuse.

Oponents of the contract forget about one of the main components of a combat aircraft, the engine and its service life. If the Chinese can do the glider and avionics themselves, they have big problems with the engine for their aircraft. Therefore, the Su-35 is being bought. Undoubtedly, they will disassemble both the radar and the engine of the 35th on "cogs". But this is not enough. It is still necessary to assemble a product from the copied "screws" that is not inferior in power and motor resource to the original - and this is very difficult, if not impossible. Even the Americans, with their engineering school, for how many years they have been trying to copy the RD-180, still turns out worse than ours - in the end they are forced to buy, reluctantly, how does the great American nation buy engines from "backward and aggressive" Russia

[Skifotavr]

Quote: Denis Obukhov

Oponents of the contract forget about one of the main components of a combat aircraft, the engine and its service life. If the Chinese can do the glider and avionics themselves, they have big problems with the engine for their aircraft. Therefore, the Su-35 is being bought. Undoubtedly, they will disassemble both the radar and the engine of the 35th on "cogs". But this is not enough. It is still necessary to assemble a product from the copied "screws" that is not inferior in power and motor resource to the original - and this is very difficult, if not impossible. Even the Americans, with their engineering school, for how many years they have been trying to copy the RD-180, still turns out worse than ours - in the end they are forced to buy, reluctantly, how does the great American nation buy engines from "backward and aggressive" Russia

That's just in copying the Chinese have no equal. Moreover, some technologies they have from previously accumulated or produced under license. They simply compare the internal structure of everything new, find know-how and try not only to copy, but also to understand it. The best scientists are working on it. As for the RD-180 engine, believe me, if the Americans wanted to illegally copy it, they could handle it. But while this pride does not allow them, and it is not customary for them to do so in business. This is, after all, not a nuclear warhead, where you can safely copy without fear of revelations and court proceedings.

[Skifotavr]

Is it okay to object weakly?

[guzik007]

Yeah. Ten years later and with a resource of several tens of hours. )))
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About ... eleven years ago, my colleagues spat on the first lifans. I told them then: wait a minute, in ten years you will be happy to ride the Chinese.
this is what happened today. the Chinese are learning fast and this cannot be ignored.

[leon-iv]

Yeah yeah so they are leaders in sales collapse

[Cobra77]

Quote: guzik007

Yeah. Ten years later and with a resource of several tens of hours. )))
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About ... eleven years ago, my colleagues spat on the first lifans. I told them then: wait a minute, in ten years you will be happy to ride the Chinese.
this is what happened today. the Chinese are learning fast and this cannot be ignored.

I will not ride them now. Because the quality is still "Chinese". Better than it was - fact. But to the same Koreans or Japs there are still far away. In electronics and in communications, they really made very good progress. But the fact remains that they are catching up with us in the military-industrial complex, and we are promoting this, and quite thoughtlessly. The Chinese are not our friends, and they will not be. We just have common interests, for now. But what will happen in 15 years, for example, no one knows. And given the overwhelming superiority in industry and human resources, we should have superiority in technical terms. And at such a pace as now, and even with the transfer of our technologies, in the same 15 years, at best, we will be on a technological level, at worst, their military-industrial complex will be ahead of ours. And this is already very dangerous. Not only in terms of military, but also political. Now China can put quite a lot of pressure on us (we need it more than it does us), in 15 years, with the current trend, it will become a senior "partner".

[Dryuya2]

Quote: Denis Obukhov

As long as we don’t have technologies that are 1-2 generations ahead of us, they will get a hole from the alarm clock, not technologies.
This is a country's security strategy.

clown
http://www.vz.ru/news/2015/12/28/786415.html

[DarkMatter]

clown tongue

And what's the catch of this copy-paste? Even mistakes are carefully observed.
willДface it is strong

[YURIY888]

overhaul resource today 1500, where did you get dozens? your data is out of date ....

[Denis Obukhov]

Quote: Sterlya

In short, the Chinese decided to speed up the creation of their! Analogs of the Su-35. And before the planes of the 5th generation, I’m afraid they are not enough. But knowing the stubbornness of the Chinese. Will create.

As often happens in the media, half-truths are written. No critical military technologies, such as the production of these engines or radars, will be transferred or sold to even the most beautiful ally. Of course, nothing more is included. Now about the truth. When the Chinese, in once again, it’s not possible to create something worthwhile, besides, time is running out and problems begin to pour in, they stop wandering and pay without bargaining. Not one of all the planes that they created, copied, wrinkled .. were not able to - It’s less than fighting, but rather has been in the air for quite some time. There are objective and purely domestic reasons for this. That’s why the Su-35 is urgently bought, which is why the Su-27 was bought at one time. The situation around the disputed islands and, in general, the South Sea is very serious, and since Chinese aircraft technology is not suitable for war, a Russian, original one is acquired, moreover, on an urgent basis.

[Denis Obukhov]

As long as we don’t have technologies that are 1-2 generations ahead of us, they will get a hole from the alarm clock, not technologies.
This is a country's security strategy.

[APASUS]

Quote: Sterlya

In short, the Chinese decided to speed up the creation of their! Analogs of the Su-35. And before the planes of the 5th generation, I’m afraid they are not enough. But knowing the stubbornness of the Chinese. Will create.

It seems that China has come to understand that it does not manage to sit out while the two lions are fighting. China is drawn into the conflict by any means, and they cannot say their planes to put it mildly .............. That's the way they solve a couple of problems right away

[Pereira]

Have you decided to scare amers? So you don’t have to fly there, but set up the base.

[GRAY]

Quote: Pereira

Have you decided to scare amers? So you don’t have to fly there, but set up the base.

So they, with these goals, put artificial islands there.
The choice of military equipment to protect them speaks for itself.

[Scoun]

Quote: Pereira

So you don’t have to fly there, but set up the base.

Well, as if written in Russian

It is planned that in disputed areas fighters will carry round-the-clock duty - “The ability of planes to take off from a short runway will allow them on the artificial islands themselves ”, writes a resource.

type refresh information

The islands of the Spratly archipelago in the South China Sea, one of the most disputed regions in the world, are claimed by six states: China, the Philippines, Taiwan, Vietnam, Malaysia and Brunei. China, which entered into a dispute later than other states, got several half-sunken reefs, which it is rapidly expanding in the process of "land reclamation" - the construction of artificial islands.

[gjv]

Quote: Pereira

So you don’t have to fly there, but set up the base.

The Chinese are doing just that, building up small islands, turning them into large ones with the help of construction technologies, then they build bases and runways on them.

The construction of seven artificial islands near the Spratly archipelago is also almost completed, although it began only last year. The Chinese even exceeded the plan: according to the forecasts of the US military command, the runway was supposed to start working at the end of this year, but now it became clear that this could happen much earlier. / China is completing the construction of an air base in the South China Sea on an artificial island. How the United States reacted to the expansion of China's military presence in the Asia-Pacific region. July 2, 2015, Lyubov Glazunova /

[OMEDB]

And I would leave it to myself, let China deal with its own islands, on its own. China is still a dark HORSE!

[Pereira]

Money urgently needed. Accounted for.

[not a Jew]

Quote: OMEDB

China is still a dark HORSE!

It’s a boom to hope that Vietnam, Japan, Korea, and Philippi will be able to cheat on Mao Sedun people if necessary.

[Wayna qhapaq]

And then we wonder why these very "Philip" and "Maozedunts" do not like us. Great-power chauvinism'c. Are you an anti-Semite?

[guzik007]

not a Jew
Fuck we need someone's love.
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Isn't a Jew your only virtue?

[not a Jew]

Quote: guzik007

Isn't a Jew your only virtue?

Speak more clearly, nifiga obscure and stupid question.

[Sterlya]

Quote: OMEDB

And I would leave it to myself, let China deal with its own islands, on its own. China is still a dark HORSE!

Whatever the horse. How do you say. Better dark and in friends with us than the United States.
Although what I say. usa Friends are not needed. They need vassals as GDP said. The Chinese sooner realized this too.

[guzik007]

Whatever the horse. How do you say. Better dark and in friends with us than the United States.
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And who convinced you that these are our friends? Well, where did you get this. Did the iPhone convince you?
The Chinese have no friends, a naked pragmatic calculation in a relationship. All the countries around them, unlike the fools, are in quiet tension. Everywhere in the southeast there is a quiet expansion, even Australia was no exception. they will swallow us, it will be a convenient moment.
How we love everyone to write down either as friends before the grave, or to hate fiercely. Hence all our troubles. A purely Russian character trait.
Let’s call them partners at a certain stage, and no more.

[Sterlya]

Quote: guzik007

And who convinced you that these are our friends? Well, where did you get this. Did the iPhone convince you?
The Chinese have no friends, a naked pragmatic calculation in a relationship.

No one has convinced me yet that I have friends.
Countries are like people. Everywhere pragmatic calculation and nothing more.
I realized this late when both health and money are gone.
Do you have many friends ?!
And I don't think that Russia thinks "friends". The concept is how to say. Not direct.
About friends. Read better with F. Nietzsche. He gave there a more definite meaning to the word. (I guess he was smarter than me, and just a philosopher )

[YURIY888]

They are closer to friends than to enemies ....

[DenZ]

And I would leave it to myself, let China deal with its own islands, on its own. China is still a dark HORSE

Us-currency to the budget. And their islands do not seem to bother us at all, even if at least half of the sea is covered with boredom.

[anfil]

Quote: OMEDB

And I would leave it to myself, let China deal with its own islands, on its own. China is still a dark HORSE!

Yes, no darker than all the former republics of the USSR.

[Knight Rider]

Quote: OMEDB

And I would leave it to myself, let China deal with its own islands, on its own. China is still a dark HORSE!

What do you mean "left"? These 24 aircraft still need to be done. Now KnAAZ has finished assembling and has begun flying around the last aircraft under the 2009 contract for 48 Su-35S for the Russian Air Force. Deliveries will continue next year!

[aszzz888]

The situation around the islands is heating up. And how urgently the 35th Dryer was needed!

[Vasya_Piterskiy]

The Russian military aircraft industry, as always in demand and as always on top ...

[Al_lexx]

An interesting feature about the state of affairs in the Chinese Air Force. Those. Despite all efforts, China does not have a really decent heavy fighter.
I think that the contracts for these aircraft and their after-sales support (if I'm not mistaken, for ten years) are quite timely. Moreover, in two years we are waiting for the T-50, which will be even more advanced, in all respects. The plant will receive the money. There will be something to build the latest fifties.

[lukewarm]

The Su35 has very good chances against the 5th generation. So this bargain (as if not in quotation marks) IMHO a double-edged sword.

[aleks 62 next]

.... "a number of technologies, such as the Irbis-E radar, capable of detecting an American stealth aircraft F-35 90 kilometers away, and a Russian 117C engine."

.... But this is in vain .....

[Sterlya]

Quote: aleks 62 next

.... "a number of technologies, such as the Irbis-E radar, capable of detecting an American stealth aircraft F-35 90 kilometers away, and a Russian 117C engine."

.... But this is in vain .....

Is it in vain? GDP is more likely to be in the rates, which is in vain.
So it was necessary.
Well, in vain I said when they gave credit to dill, 3 billion, then they will give another 15. So hozlov bought for a long time. For an hour, they don’t know how to scrape them off. And they are unlikely to be scraped out. 3 frets an hour money.
Yes, in general, it is necessary to cut back on the deputies of the Supreme in revenues. Let them live like normal people. They looked away from reality. Therefore, they think badly.

[Altona]

Quote: Sterlya

Yes, in general, it is necessary to cut back on the deputies of the Supreme in revenues. Let them live like normal people. They looked away from reality. Therefore, they think badly.

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Yes, in general it is necessary to revive the practice of Mao Jie Dong. A general for a month in the barracks as an ordinary, an official for agricultural work or a laborer in the shop to bring down a high-ranking arrogance. And then they live, in fact, in parallel reality.

[Sterlya]

Quote: Altona

Yes, in general it is necessary to revive the practice of Mao Jie Dong. A general for a month in the barracks as an ordinary, an official for agricultural work or a laborer in the shop to bring down a high-ranking arrogance. And then they live, in fact, in parallel reality.

So this is not "Democratic" . Here the Chinese do not care about this democracy, but ours do not.
There is no this "democracy", there was, as well as "communism" anywhere else.
Although communism and democracy are one and the same. Different branches.
Like Islam and Christianity.

[V.ic]

Quote: Sterlya

They looked away from reality. Therefore, they think badly.

Sitting in deputies develops a body that has nothing to do with the head, but rather "opposed" to it. For them thinks "master" for they themselves are the slaves of the oligarchs.

[Rrrj]

Quote: Sterlya

Is it in vain? GDP is more likely to be in the rates, which is in vain.

Yes, yes, yes, yes - you already pulled up with your tricky plans for HPP - in fact - horseradish (from the bitter plant horseradish) PP.
Negotiations with the Minister of Qatar, Turkey tomatoes.
Here we squander technology.
The devil would have to tear their debt - Pushkin will take it, we will distribute gas - but we ourselves live in d ... d.

[Sterlya]

Quote: rrrj

Quote: Sterlya

Is it in vain? GDP is more likely to be in the rates, which is in vain.

Yes, yes, yes, yes - you already pulled up with your tricky plans for HPP - in fact - horseradish (from the bitter plant horseradish) PP.
Negotiations with the Minister of Qatar, Turkey tomatoes.
Here we squander technology.
The devil would have to tear their debt - Pushkin will take it, we will distribute gas - but we ourselves live in d ... d.

Well, they would read further.
I can criticize
And yes, the king is to blame. he must catch all the lords in the corners. personally executed.
But I honestly think.
It is necessary in relation to officials of embezzlers to introduce the death penalty.
It will become a little less. But they will not stop stealing in China

[aleks 62 next]

..... Is it in vain? GDP is more likely to be in the rates, which is in vain.
So it was necessary ..... And they are unlikely to be scraped out. 3 Lyada hour money .....

.... You think you have money .... Well, of course, they gave the "brothers" 3 lard in vain .... One thing calms down - sooner or later, in one way or another, they will snatch money from them .... But how much time and money is development and bringing to the series the same "Irbis" or the engine - you have no idea .... The amount can be comparable to the "brotherly" debt .... And most importantly - time .... Everything high-tech is born for a long time (for example, SU -27 brought to the series for almost 7 years) .... And money cannot buy time ...

[Bronik]

Real protection - real weapons.

[jaguarstas]

Sorry for the technology. We spent money, effort, intelligence. And they got almost free.

[Kasym]

So now earn - what's the matter !? A $ 2 billion contract that can be used for new developments, retooling, etc.! Passes T-50 tests. So it is necessary to crush the market of cords for yourself. Beijing is interested in economic projects in the Russian Federation (the Power of Siberia, silos, etc.), so they will not bully. Moscow from Beijing, unlike many, sees only support in foreign policy. In the medium term, Beijing’s policy will not change in relation to us. We are the only land source of natural resources for them and an ally on their borders (SCO, BRICS).
In the Russian Federation, there are probably ideas for new radars and engines, since the Irbis and 117C are going on sale, they still won't tell us what they are doing and testing there in the design bureau. "The copy will always be worse than the original."

[rotmistr60]

China intends to use Su-35 to patrol disputed islands

This region has become hot for China over the past year. And in the hot region we need excellent planes, which are the Su-35.

[gjv]

Quote: rotmistr60

This region has become hot for China over the past year.

Spratly Archipelago in the southwestern part of the South China Sea (8 ° 38 ′ N latitude 111 ° 55 ′ E). Very controversial territory and has long been hot. Vietnam, China, Taiwan, Malaysia, the Philippines and Brunei claim to possess the islands. Here is an approximate modern disposition on the islands.

The Philippines said they would “fight to the last sailor and marine” over the Spratly Islands.
Vietnam and Malaysia are similarly configured. In 1995, there was an attempt by Vietnam and China to agree on joint development of the islands, but in 2004 they broke up again.

[lukewarm]

In the standard version of the Russian Aerospace Forces ???? Etta headquarters is new ... Is China our ally worse than Belarusians? But will it not be necessary there in years ... to fight with them for some time?

[Ajent cho]

will not have to be there over the years ... to fight with them for some time?

I hope not, because the Chinese did not particularly expand north. In addition, they have enough pain points that can be pressed. Well - personally, I have no doubt that ours are introducing their bookmarks into the exported technology, just in case ...

[GRAY]

Quote: unwillingly

But will it not be necessary there in years ... to fight with them for some time?

Do not climb. In Russian caps, kilotons are a bit too much, and in the event of a conflict, databases will pass in sparsely populated areas - we will drop them.

A Russian hero enters the Chinese border and shouts:
- Hey, a hundred thousand Chinese, go for the hills!
The Chinese gathered and went ... After a couple of hours because of the hill
Russian hero comes out and shouts:
- Hey, a hundred thousand Chinese, come on for the hill to fight !!
The Chinese gathered, went, and again no one returned.
After a couple of hours, the Russian hero comes out again and shouts:
- Hey, a hundred thousand Chinese, come on for a hill !!!
The Chinese gathered .... suddenly, from behind a hill, an unfinished creeps out
Chinese and with the last forces verbs:
- Do not go, this is an ambush - there are two of them!

[Al_oriso]

Over the years, there will be some or we will join China, or China will join us ... Well, or one of two.

[Izotovp]

Now the situation is similar to the surprise in cycling: whoever starts first will lose. Therefore, we carry out our operations where this cannot lead to an unconditional military conflict with either the United States or China. But at the same time, we are not allowing any of the parties to outweigh and time is gaining for our own rearmament. And the radar and engine are new, I think, on the way.

[Sterlya]

And how many Su-35s can the military-industrial complex produce with good funding per month? (I have a prepayment, the price of fighters delivered to China)

[triglav]

East is a delicate matter. Now China is with us, and later?

[not a Jew]

Quote: triglav

Now China is with us, and later?

Creeping expansion into the lands of the great northern neighbor.

[Izotovp]

They carry out creeping, but are actively preparing for the active: the construction of bridges in tank-dangerous places, exercises on war in northern conditions, and the transfer of large forces over long distances.

[nrex]

We must now sell everything that we can produce, naturally without undermining our defense potential. One product of such a level as a locomotive drags dozens, if not hundreds, of enterprises in various industries.

[nrex]

We must behave decently, thoughtfully and purposefully, both in foreign and in world politics, and then the sequence of these three components will not leave any chance for our opponents.

[Mama_Cholli]

And what, the cars are very good ... Let them patrol for health, maybe there will be less "last Chinese warnings" ...

[rus-5819]

Quote: Skifotavr

Why create when you can copy? They are especially interested in the engine and radar. For this, they are acquired. Everyone already knows about it, but Russia is afraid to refuse.

In ukraine they do exactly the same: from the world on a thread - "Stronghold" turns out. And they are not afraid to refuse Russia! What does not fit into the technology is riveted from steam locomotive iron.

[Leader]

Quote: Pereira

Have you decided to scare amers?

And in order for the Americans to quiet down, the Chinese will also leave our identification marks on the purchased SU-35 ...

[Flat5160]

It seems to me that you should not rush with the transfer of technology. If only for a mutually beneficial exchange. And what kind of technology do Chinese friends have, mostly plagiarism. I don’t know whether or not to transfer the technology that they received along with the transfer of foreign production to themselves.

[Cobra77]

Quote: OMEDB

And I would leave it to myself, let China deal with its own islands, on its own. China is still a dark HORSE!

Yes, they are not a dark horse, they are our temporary companions and nothing more. And you should always remember that, if necessary, they eat us too. Not in a military way, but in a cultural, economic, political way. In this sense, they are no less dangerous than the Americans. They just have different methods. And in my opinion, the transfer of military technology to them is just an epic mistake. You can sell oil, gas, allow investments in our economy within reasonable limits, but technology can never be given away. And we have some kind of pink illusion that China is a friend and brother. Yes, never. It's just that now it is beneficial for us to "be friends" against amers and co.

[Victor1]

Earlier, a TASS source reported that “fighters will be handed over to the People's Republic of China in the standard version (for the Russian Aerospace Force of the Russian Federation). The issues of their "chinaization" are currently being coordinated with the Chinese side and will be formalized with a separate contract. "

This is complete nonsense, to give the Chinese not an export option, but the same as in our troops, after all, China is a rather difficult "partner", no matter how it comes back to haunt in the future ..

[North]

The Turks overwhelmed the plane. but the metal is not dragged. from this - they will fill up and drag the Chinese away. blia sadness Americans will snatch what they want.

[Cobra77]

Quote: Victor1

Earlier, a TASS source reported that “fighters will be handed over to the People's Republic of China in the standard version (for the Russian Aerospace Force of the Russian Federation). The issues of their "chinaization" are currently being coordinated with the Chinese side and will be formalized with a separate contract. "

This is complete nonsense, to give the Chinese not an export option, but the same as in our troops, after all, China is a rather difficult "partner", no matter how it comes back to haunt in the future ..

Well, looking at the similar steps of our rulers, a feeling of moronism arises in their heads.