In Israel, not surprised by the growing approval of Nazi crimes by the Ukrainian authorities

Israeli newspapers discuss both the recent visit of the Ukrainian president to the country, and how the Ukrainian radicals reacted to this visit. It should be recalled that Petro Poroshenko, speaking before the Knesset deputies, asked for forgiveness from the Israelis for the fact that during the Second World War "some" Ukrainians took part in the extermination of the Jewish population (the Holocaust). When Poroshenko returned to Kiev, the head of the faction of the Radical Party of Ukraine Oleg Lyashko said that Poroshenko "humiliated the Ukrainian nation." According to Lyashko, “Ukrainians have not yet experienced such humiliation in the newest stories».

Oleg Lyashko quotes InoTV:

Such humiliation of Ukrainians has not yet been in the national history (...) This is the same that we will now blame Georgians and Jews for the famine, appealing to the atrocities of Dzhugashvili, Beria, Kaganovich and so on.

The Israeli media wrote that in modern Ukraine, "features of neo-Nazism have long been manifested." Thus, Ephraim Zuroff, director of the Wiesenthal Center in Jerusalem, believes that it is too late to be surprised at this kind of statement by the same Lyashko, since the authorities do not have any special opposition to the radical nationalists in modern Ukraine.

Zuroff:

And Ukrainian leaders should not portray astonishment, because, at least in part, they are responsible for this.

Recall that earlier the deputies of the VRU officially recognized the Bandera gangs who fought on the side of the Nazis during the Second World War as the heroes of Ukraine.

Comments

[USSR 1971]

Well, actually Poroshenko went to his home. In its real homeland, Ukraine is only a place of work (I hope not for long). But Lyashko and others are indignant because they are not invited there. And to hell with them, this is not the main humiliation of the Ukrainian people according to the results of the outgoing year.

[Lord of the Sith]

Israel is at a crossroads in connection with the situation and actions of Russia in Syria. It seems that Ukraine needs to be supported, like the US project, but the Israeli government also has the mind and they see that nothing will come of this stillborn child.

I will publish my report yesterday. I hope the site administration will not mind.

A message from a military man with the call sign "Mag".

Today, December 28.12, at 13:45 p.m., the BCH artillery division (several batteries), for the first time after a long break, made 5 volleys in the direction of the front line: the former part of the Air Defense Staraya Avdeevka.

Yesterday, from 04:00 a.m. to 4:30 a.m., the artillery of New Russia worked on previously uncovered targets - art positions, accumulation of equipment, warehouses and manpower. At first 30 minutes the battery worked for one purpose, then from 4:31 to 4:41 they worked for another. For the first time since the armistice in September, the VSN artillery worked on the positions of the Armed Forces. These are not single shots to shut up a mortar or machine gun, namely battery operation.

The day before, the head of the republic, A. Zakharchenko, said that the signing of Minsk-3 was ending, and Ukraine refused to sign the new treaty, and therefore, we would destroy the artillery of the Ukrainian Armed Forces shelling Donetsk and the villages of the republic. Let's hope that not the next promises.

All patience and health!

[Ami du peuple]

Quote: USSR 1971

Well, actually Poroshenko went to his home. In its real homeland, Ukraine is only a place of work (I hope not for long).

I hope that Ukraine will become his place of life imprisonment. It would be better if it was a place of death. By the verdict of the people's court, of course.

[Roman Skomorokhov]

Quote: Sith Lord

I will publish my report yesterday. I hope the site administration will not mind.

It will not, of course.

[Termit1309]

But in fact, what do gentlemen from Israel think about this?

[Hello]

Quote: Termit1309

But in fact, what do gentlemen from Israel think about this?

Fair? The amount of garbage that the media of Russia and Ukraine pour on each other makes it difficult to understand what is happening. So I personally have long ceased to be interested in this topic. Somehow and without my authoritative opinion sorted out.
As for the Israelis, in addition to immigrants from the Union and all sorts of analysts, I think everybody cares.

[bocsman]

Quote: Hello

As for the Israelis, in addition to immigrants from the Union and all sorts of analysts, I think everybody cares.

Now, here you think the Jews for the first time show their lack of foresight in relation to the Nazis. According to the recollections of WWII participants, some said that the Germans supposedly are a cultural nation and will not allow lawlessness. And there was definitely no outrage. There was a cultural, planned destruction! And now, some people think that this trash under the Nazi banners can be kept in check. Mistake, such creatures are deprived of reason and morality! And only power is respected. What strength is there on them!
And as for the disregard for the Russian media, you are wrong to underestimate them. Or do you think the truth is only in the "free democratic" press. Yes, in my opinion, there are no great experts in desection! It is safe to take one hundred percent of what they write about Russia, but vice versa. Russian Aerospace Forces bombed a hospital (read the USA), destroyed 100500 civilians (read a hundred terrorists banged)! And so on .

[gergi]

Otmazatsya, oh, how is it in Hebrew.

[Alexey Boukin]

Quote: Hello

As for the Israelis, in addition to immigrants from the Union and all sorts of analysts, I think everybody cares.

And we did not doubt it.

[unsinkable]

Quote: Hello

Fair? The amount of garbage that the media of Russia and Ukraine pour on each other makes it difficult to understand what is happening. So I personally have long ceased to be interested in this topic. Somehow and without my authoritative opinion sorted out.
As for the Israelis, in addition to immigrants from the Union and all sorts of analysts, I think everybody cares.

Dear Israeli, you cannot have an authoritative opinion (although it’s clear that you are ironic, but nonetheless), since you are not able to understand the simple question of the relationship between the fascists of the Outskirts and patient Russia. Turn on the brain, you are smart people.

[Hello]

Quote: unsinkable

Dear Israeli, you cannot have an authoritative opinion (although it’s clear that you are ironic, but nonetheless), since you are not able to figure out a simple question

You suggest me to figure it out and immediately speak for me the answer:

Quote: unsinkable

relations between fascists of the Outskirts and patient Russia.

That is why I ceased to be interested in the topic of Ukraine, too many passions and throwing poop, I better stand aside.

[Gardener91]

What then do you need on the Russian resource, because it is your opinion that is important in this matter, and I don’t BELIEVE to be far from stupid and like to stand by,

[Zeppelin ml.]

Quote: Gardener91

What do you need then on the Russian resource, because it is your opinion that is important in this matter

Ilya seems to have expressed very unambiguously the opinion of the majority of Israeli inhabitants. What exactly would you like to hear? Xoxophobic rhetoric? It would be a subscription

Quote: Gardener91

on the Russian resource

whether?

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Gardener91

What then do you need on the Russian resource, because it is your opinion that is important in this matter, and I don’t BELIEVE to be far from stupid and like to stand by,

And where is it written that the resource is Russian? The resource is called " Military review. "

[Hello]

Quote: Gardener91

What then do you need on the Russian resource, because it is your opinion that is important in this matter, and I don’t BELIEVE to be far from stupid and like to stand by,

And what have new laws been introduced in Russia? That only citizens can attend VO? So I will disappoint you, I’m a Russian citizen by birth right. Do you know such a thing that Russian citizenship is issued to everyone who was born on the territory of Russia / RSFSR, but you can run to parliament and pass a law against the non-hostess. So to say, with fire and a sword to burn out corruption in their native land. To finally triumph one opinion on the issue of Ukraine.

[USSR 1971]

They still think that while Petro is useful, he can be invited to a kosher dinner, if he doesn’t need it — let him go to his chocolate factory. Madame Julia will successfully replace.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Termit1309

But in fact, what do gentlemen from Israel think about this?

Poroshenko’s visit was almost not covered by the media. Well, 2-3 minutes as a mandatory illustration. In general, everyone has already forgotten about this. Everyone is discussing the fact that in February, former Prime Minister Olmert goes to jail after all the guy-hoods and hassles, and Alia’s growth.

According to the Ministry of Aliyah and Absorption and the Jewish Agency "Sokhnut", in 2015 the rate of repatriation to Israel increased by almost 10% compared to 2014. In total, more than 2015 people repatriated to Israel in 30, up from 000 a year earlier. The Absorption Ministry notes that these are the best indicators over the past 27.500 years.
For the second year in a row, France holds the record for the number of returnees. 2015 people repatriated from Israel to this country in 7.900 (and 2014 people in 7.200). Ukraine is in second place, from which 7.000 people arrived during the last year, which is 16% more than in 2014, when the number of repatriates amounted to 6.000 people.
2015 people made repatriation from Russia in 6600 (which is 40% more than 2014 when 4.900 people arrived). In 2015, 15.000 people repatriated from Israel in Eastern Europe (including the countries of the former USSR) to Israel (in 2014 - 12.328 people), from the countries of Western Europe - 9.330 people (in 2014 - 8.889 people), and from North America and Canada - 3.768 people (in 2014 - 3.871 people).
Demographically, the 2015 aliyah can again be called "youth": more than 50% of the immigrants who arrived in Israel were people under the age of 30, including 8.200 immigrants under the age of 19, and 6.950 people between the ages of 20 and 29.

[evil partisan]

That's amazing: Nazism blossoms in Ukraine in magnificent colors, and the Jews at the state level have never been condemned. Do you like it?

[Hello]

Quote: Angry Guerrilla

That's amazing: Nazism blossoms in Ukraine in magnificent colors, and the Jews at the state level have never been condemned. Do you like it?

I’ll tell you more and Russia at the state level has not condemned.

[Temples]

Hello garage.

Read attentively.

On November XNUMX in New York, at a meeting of the third committee of the UN General Assembly, at the initiative of Russia, a resolution was adopted "Combating the glorification of Nazism, neo-Nazism and other practices that contribute to the escalation of modern forms of racism, racial discrimination, xenophobia and related intolerance.

126 UN member countries voted for the document submitted by Russia, four states opposed: Canada, Palau, USA and Ukraine. Another 53 countries, including members of the European Union, abstained.

[Hello]

Quote: Temples

Hello garage.

Read attentively.

On November XNUMX in New York, at a meeting of the third committee of the UN General Assembly, at the initiative of Russia, a resolution was adopted "Combating the glorification of Nazism, neo-Nazism and other practices that contribute to the escalation of modern forms of racism, racial discrimination, xenophobia and related intolerance.

126 UN member countries voted for the document submitted by Russia, four states opposed: Canada, Palau, USA and Ukraine. Another 53 countries, including members of the European Union, abstained.

And where is the condemnation of Nazism in Ukraine? I remember my country also supported this resolution.

[Temples]

Hello,

you would read the resolution.
Then one could reason something.

And think about why the EU countries abstained from voting.

[Hello]

Quote: Temples

Hello,

you would read the resolution.
Then one could reason something.

And think about why the EU countries abstained from voting.

Let's talk to you. I have little interest in the decision of the EU countries. The question was asked why Israel does not condemn the Nazis in Ukraine, I asked a counter question and why Russia does not condemn? And here you are exposing resolutions to me, where is it about Ukraine?
And they argue not about anything, but about something.

[Wayna qhapaq]

"I asked a counter question, why doesn't Russia condemn?" Dear, we certainly understand your national peculiarities like a question to a question, but understand ours too - go to ...!

[Hello]

Quote: Wayna Qhapaq

Dear, we certainly understand your national particularities such as asking a question, but understand ours too - go to ...!

Well, the answer is also good chatted.

[Temples]

In this case:
- "little interest in solutionsЯ"
Teach mother cabbage soup to cook.

[Hello]

Quote: Temples

In this case:
- "little interest in solutionsЯ"
Teach mother cabbage soup to cook.

So what about conviction?

[marl]

Quote: Hello

And where is the condemnation of Nazism in Ukraine?

In the very title of the resolution, by the way, adopted on the initiative of the Russian Federation. Don't you think that the key word "struggle" just means condemnation? Hardly anyone is struggling with the phenomenon without condemning it.

Quote: Hello

where is there about Ukraine?

If you, for more than 2 years, did not "stand on the sidelines" (as you write above), but more or less actively interested in what is happening in Ukraine, you would hardly have such a question at all.
I don’t think that there are people who want to carry out political information especially for you. Read, with different sources.

[Gardener91]

Only a Jew can answer a question with a question.

[evil partisan]

Quote: Hello

I’ll tell you more and Russia at the state level has not condemned.

Kakun, so kakun. From the heart of what is called. Congratulations!

[as150505]

In Israel, the majority of Russian speakers support Ukraine and condemn Russia. Read the comments in the news "Israeli news in Russian" My father-in-law's brother lives in Israel, so he says that we are fighting in Ukraine.

[ASK505]

Quote: as150505

In Israel, most Russian speakers support Ukraine and condemn Russia.

In New York, the same picture. Our former Jews salivate there in hatred of Russia and Putin. Most are for Khokhlosrach. But it is their choice.

[jjj]

And, I must admit, some representatives of the Jewish people finance the formation of Bandera Nazism in Ukraine

[Maki Avellevich]

jjj
And, I must admit, some representatives of the Jewish people finance the formation of Bandera Nazism in Ukraine

Perhaps it is necessary.

But where did the firewood come from?

[Gunxnumx]

There was recently a little analysis on the site here. About how the departed / Svidomo especially closely follow the news related to Russia, rejoice in troubles and muddy success. Some kind of psychological base was brought up. Like, losers need to blame someone for their troubles.

[Alexey Boukin]

Quote: as150505

In Israel, the majority of Russian speakers support Ukraine and condemn Russia. Read the comments in the news "Israeli news in Russian" My father-in-law's brother lives in Israel, so he says that we are fighting in Ukraine.

Not only are they condemned. They literally watered the country where they were born, grew up, got an education.

[quote]

Quote: Alexey Bukin

got an education

He spent 10 years, kick-deck, and received a certificate for gold?
They receive a salary either for "bread"! Deserved, earned, received, or vice versa. Education (knowledge) is acquired through teaching and learning !!!

[Hello]

Quote: as150505

In Israel, most Russian speakers support Ukraine and condemn Russia.

Seriously?

Quote: as150505

Read the comments on Israel News in Russian

Read the comments on Echo of Moscow.

Quote: as150505

My brother-in-law lives in Israel, and so he says that we are fighting in Ukraine.

I also have relatives living in Moscow and they tell me that hens are being milked in Moscow. What is the truth?

[serega.fedotov]

Wow, notice!
True, it is one thing to admit that the Nazis are in power, everything is simple and clear, the Jews only noticed "that SOME features of neo-Nazism appeared in Ukraine."
It seems that they forgot that in Germany in the 30s only SOME features of Nazism, the main ones, appeared later too!
PS is true how the Jews behave in the Gaza Strip, immediately understandable minekampf they carefully read

[rotmistr60]

Efraim Zuroff believes that late to wonder a statement of this kind

The director of the center is right. Israel should not be surprised, but it was necessary to respond at the international level to what is happening. At first they silently supported, now they are surprised. It’s interesting to be very surprised if Jews start labeling clothes in Kiev?

[pvv113]

Quote: Sith Lord

we will destroy artillery of the Armed Forces of Ukraine shelling Donetsk and villages of the republic

It's high time. How much can dill provocations go unpunished

[udincev]

Petro Poroshenko, speaking to the Knesset members, apologized to the Israelis for the fact that during the Second World War “some” Ukrainians took part in the extermination of the Jewish population (Holocaust)

That's how Bandera comes, so put things in order ...
Is the chant forgotten?

[0255]

Quote: udincev

Petro Poroshenko, speaking to the Knesset members, apologized to the Israelis for the fact that during the Second World War “some” Ukrainians took part in the extermination of the Jewish population (Holocaust)

That's how Bandera comes, so put things in order ...
Is the chant forgotten?

Let MOSSAD remove the Ukrainian politicians who are heroizing Bandera. Bandera killed Jews the only way

[Hello]

Quote: 0255

Let MOSSAD remove the Ukrainian politicians who are heroizing Bandera. Bandera killed Jews the only way

Oh, and you like to shift work to others, and why not the GRU or the FSB? Or did the Mossad become the sword of retribution in Russia's hands?

[unsinkable]

Quote: Hello

Oh, and you like to shift work to others, and why not the GRU or the FSB? Or did the Mossad become the sword of retribution in Russia's hands?

Oh, buddy. I feel sorry for you. You are talking about Thomas, and you are talking about Yeryoma again. Turn around like a guano in an ice hole. Well, everything is according to your traditions, but somehow slippery. When you sow, you will reap. As with Hitler .

[Hello]

Quote: unsinkable

Oh, buddy. I feel sorry for you. You are talking about Thomas, and you are talking about Yeryoma again. Turn around like a guano in an ice hole. Well, everything is according to your traditions, but somehow slippery. When you sow, you will reap. As with Hitler .

So you crush me with your logic, so that I would not spin. Tell me, for God's sake, why should Mossad work in Ukraine? Your neighbor, you’re doing them with knives. What do we have to do with it?

[oldzek]

so that later you would not have to carry out "ball lightning" again. Forgot the raid in Entebbe?

[Hello]

Quote: oldzek

so that later you would not have to carry out "ball lightning" again. Forgot the raid in Entebbe?

Well, if so then, let’s zafigachim everyone, for example, someone else who knows that he’s wandering around in your head.

[izya top]

patsya praised the Jews, licked, but shekels were still not given

[evil partisan]

Quote: izya top

patsya praised the Jews, licked, but shekels were still not given

Not for those, Colleague . We would give .
Sholom, Izya!

[izya top]

Quote: Angry Guerrilla

Sholom, Izya!

hello helmets

Quote: Angry Guerrilla

We would give

yeah, a few sub-suppliers

[Rader]

Yes, all this is Kremlin propaganda! Better listen to the Ukrainian authorities, the true universal people and patriots of Yukrenia gathered there. There is no Nazism in Ukraine, just not all !!! And in general, if they painted themselves in these colors, it means that they painted themselves in these colors ((c) Klitschko on Pozner’s programs). so it's okay these nationalists ... oh, i.e. the terriotic sentiments of the threat to the Jews do not carry !!!

It is interesting that the manifestations of Nazi sentiments in the ruling elites of Ukraine excite anyone in Israel, but not the country's leadership, which saddens ...

[Mama_Cholli]

And Lyashko himself every day humiliates his nation only by the fact that he p. Idar sits in power and steers in the halls.
writings: Poroshenko is the same activist ...

[not a Jew]

Oh, they are not surprised, you poglyadi. They helped the fascists to come to power, now they pretend to be virgins. Okay, there simple "Russians" can be indignant at the revelry of the National Assembly, but their supreme kagal pretends that everything is in order on the ruin.

[31rus]

dear, what have you read? So far, Israel does not concern it, Poroshenko and other people from Ukraine will be silent and accept, I see nothing new in this, Syria and Israel and Russia have expressed their interests, therefore there is no confrontation, at the very least for the time being, Russia guarantees for the duration of the operation in Syria, not to disseminate new types of weapons, Israel does not interfere in the actions of Russia in Syria, the very exchange of intelligence information on issues of interest, coordination of aviation actions, without it

[soroKING]

Quote: Hello

Quote: Termit1309

But in fact, what do gentlemen from Israel think about this?

Fair? The amount of garbage that the media of Russia and Ukraine pour on each other makes it difficult to understand what is happening. So I personally have long ceased to be interested in this topic. Somehow and without my authoritative opinion sorted out.
As for the Israelis, in addition to immigrants from the Union and all sorts of analysts, I think everybody cares.

Like how he was baptized in a pile?

[Hello]

Quote: soroKING

Like how he was baptized in a pile?

I liked more how his wife extended a hand to the rabbi, and was very surprised when he did not respond. It seems that the presidential aides are from the village, but we must prepare for the visits.

[rotmistr60]

as his wife extended a hand to the rabbi,

She probably expected him to kiss her hand. About the assistants. You look at the head of the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry and listen to him. What can you expect from assistants?

[Hello]

Quote: rotmistr60

About the assistants. You look at the head of the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry and listen to him. What can you expect from assistants?

Well, I don’t know for the Foreign Ministry, but they are getting ready for meetings at the top, but here is some kind of kindergarten. Recently I saw a video in Australia where Poroshenko bowed to a soldier, I almost choked on tea. I was looking for maybe they have such a national custom in Australia but found nothing.

[Pirogov]

Well, I don’t know for the Foreign Ministry, but they are getting ready for meetings at the top, but here is some kind of kindergarten. Recently I saw a video in Australia where Poroshenko bowed to a soldier, I almost choked on tea. I was looking for maybe they have such a national custom in Australia but did not find anything .................................... .......................................
.................................................. parashenka anyone who is not Mos.kal mister!

[Al_oriso]

It is not clear that Poroshenko wanted to receive from Israel for his apology?
Maybe he hinted that we (Ukraine) are not the same now, we are good, we are kind, we are oppressed ... we need support, we need money, we need protection ...

[31rus]

Dear, Poroshenko doesn’t need Ukraine, he needs to merge Kolomoisky’s suite and his suite, it really hinders business, you want to read to Ukraine, for Poroshenko it’s the same

[Engineer]

A Jew in a tank chases after a Palestinian, he runs away and shoots ... a Jew drives him into a corner, and there is nothing for him to shoot ... a tank hatch opens, a Jew climbs out and says: cheat, are the cartridges over? - Yes - I can sell such boxes.

[31rus]

Dear, in general, this question is strange for me, because it was Russia that did not do anything, when this infection spread in western Ukraine, already under Yushchenko parades of SS troops with banners were held, even then the graves of soldiers were desecrated, even then young people were trained in the UPA and other disgusting, and we did not even express protests, "quietly" closed our eyes, caught up when it had already grown into the official policy of Kiev, and it was possible and necessary to pressurize even then under Yushchenko and under Yanukovych

[KBR109]

The oligarch, however, will not peck out an oligarch's eyes. A living example is Petsya and the "ambassador" Zurabov. The "ambassador" in Ukraine already has its own network of drugstores on dummies.

[rus-5819]

Quote: Termit1309

But in fact, what do gentlemen from Israel think about this?

Question: - How much will two times be two?
Answer: - How much is needed?

[pts-m]

Yes, what to argue with the Jews. They write from right to left, and Orthodox write from left to right. Therefore, we think differently. Some people seem to be .... and others, as if to live, because. the native state writes off debts to the “fraternal” states.

[Leader]

Quote: Hello

As for the Israelis, in addition to immigrants from the Union and all sorts of analysts, I think everybody cares.

Quote: as150505

In Israel, most Russian speakers support Ukraine and condemn Russia.

What a short memory your people have ... Especially if you remember WHERE most of the Jewish pogroms took place in the history of Russia in the 19-20th centuries and WHO helped most of all in solving the "Jewish question" during WWII ...

[sleeping sayan]

They have it in their blood, to do gesheft wherever possible. There was Khmelnitsky, they live in Ukraine. There was Babiy Yar again, they are in Ukraine. And if you remember how they asked Stalin, Crimea. Why are they not asked about Dikson Island or the New Siberian Islands.

[Victor-M]

It must be recalled that Petro Poroshenko, speaking before the Knesset deputies, apologized to the Israelis for the fact that during the Second World War “some” Ukrainians took part in the extermination of the Jewish population (Holocaust).

A Jew apologized to the Jews for organizing the killing of Jews.

[Flat5160]

After this visit, the impression was made that the Jews began to forget about the Holocaust. And how else can one comment on the fact that the person who signed the documents on the glorification of the people involved in their mass extermination is accepted in Israel. The world turned upside down, and the ancestors of the tortured Jews in the tomb, too!

[sleeping sayan]

Let's wish Ukraine in the new 2016. A new BOGDAN KHMELNITSKY appeared and then all "these", if they can, will run away to their homeland.

[Algetxnumx]

Quote: rotmistr60

. What can you expect from assistants?

Congratulations to the Pope on his 79th birthday

[Leader]

Who put the cons to me here - Bandera?