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Erdogan actually presented plans for the occupation of the north of Syria

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Turkish President Erdogan, who the other day "saved a person from suicide," again acted as a kind of Turkish counterpart of Santa Claus. This time Erdogan decided to declare, no less than nothing, about the concept of fighting terrorism in the Middle East. This is against the backdrop of receiving wounded militants for treatment in Turkish clinics ... Erdogan called the need to create a "security zone" in Syria as the main point of the "concept". The statement of the Turkish leader leads TASS:


At the first stage, the zone will stretch along the border at 98 km and will be removed inland (Syrian territory) at 45 km, while we can expand it. It will be a terror free zone, and internally displaced persons and those who are in camps in Turkey will be able to live there.


Erdogan actually presented plans for the occupation of the north of Syria


In other words, the Turkish president, under the slogans of fighting terrorism, is actually trying to justify (legitimize) Ankara’s desired occupation of a part of Syrian territory. At the same time, Erdogan adds that he is going to start a campaign to raise funds for the implementation of this project.

Moreover, Erdogan is going to launch to the north of Syria and Turkish construction companies in order to be able to earn more on the occupation:
This area (construction) is highly developed in Turkey, we can build housing in accordance with the needs of Syria and thus partially satisfy the need for it.


The question arises: did Sydia herself ever ask Erdogan about something like that, or does he think that his presidency automatically extends beyond the borders of Turkish territory? And one more question: did Mr. Erdogan think that the aircraft of the Russian Aerospace Forces and air defense systems could somewhat hinder his plans for the occupation of Syrian territory? ..
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  1. avvg
    avvg 28 December 2015 15: 38 New
    21
    Syria was a tough nut for Erdogan, Erdogan’s desire was no longer enough, the train left.
    1. oleg-gr
      oleg-gr 28 December 2015 15: 41 New
      41
      Erdogan's mind clouded? It's time to talk about the hospital. Where the Turkish sultans, Napoleons and other "great" characters live.
      1. gudgeon
        gudgeon 28 December 2015 15: 54 New
        10
        The United States does not support the call by Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan to establish security zones in Syria. White House spokeswoman Joshua Ernest confirmed this on Tuesday at a regular press briefing.

        Something this under-sultan was completely out of hand ... Oh, they will punish you, Erdik ... Not only Russia and not only tomatoes.
        1. 79807420129
          79807420129 28 December 2015 16: 02 New
          14
          The scoreboard will not crack, and it seems like it wants to start the 3rd World War, because after all, only ashes will remain from Turkey, but it’s a fool.
          1. cniza
            cniza 28 December 2015 16: 24 New
            +7
            Quote: 79807420129
            The scoreboard will not crack, and it seems like it wants to start the 3rd World War, because after all, only ashes will remain from Turkey, but it’s a fool.


            He will not calm down until he is removed from power, in what way, no difference.
            1. SRC P-15
              SRC P-15 28 December 2015 16: 33 New
              +4
              Moreover, Erdogan is going to launch to the north of Syria and Turkish construction companies in order to be able to earn more on the occupation:

              In this way, Erdogan wants to relieve tension in the Turkish construction sector, after the Turkish companies flee from Russia? Oh well...
              1. Tatyana
                Tatyana 28 December 2015 21: 59 New
                +1
                From the text of the article
                The Turkish president, under the slogans of the fight against terror, is actually trying to justify (legitimize) the Ankara’s desired occupation of part of Syrian territory in northern Syria and is going to not only launch a fundraising campaign for this project, but also launch Turkish construction companies there to be able to earn more on occupation.

                There is nothing surprising in this. This colonialist technique has long been known as the "Doctrine of the Shock of Capitalism of Disasters" of the "free" marketer M. Friedman, and it has long been worked out in the world of the USA and other cap. NATO countries in their neocolonies, in which they militarily carried out coups.
                Its essence is to first, by military means or other forceful methods, clean up the territory for the construction companies of the invaders from the local indigenous population, and then populate it with their own ethnic group. At the same time, the military first earn money in the war, and then the construction companies of the invaders.
                Moreover, in the United States under the Pentagon, according to the “Doctrine of Shock” by M. Friedman, military affairs, medicine, and construction are generally built on a “private” -commercial basis, as a result of which corruption, for example in the US Armed Forces, is enormous. And that is precisely why, in particular, Ukrainians recently received in fact from the United States - for a considerable amount of money (!) - military wrecked equipment instead of new equipment. The Turks will go and, in principle, are already following the same path.
            2. ayyildiz
              ayyildiz 28 December 2015 16: 43 New
              +1
              I read that Erdogan wants to arrange a referendum in the north of Syria and in Iraq. He said Russia organized a referendum in Crimea. And we will also arrange where the Turkmen live, the more they ask for it! hi
              1. Weyland
                Weyland 28 December 2015 18: 07 New
                +1
                Quote: ayyildiz
                And we will also arrange where the Turkman live, the more they ask for it!


                To start, we will also hold a referendum among Turkish Kurds laughing . And then, in addition, we will hold a referendum in Canada regarding the rights of local Ukrainians wink : For the Turkoman are no more Turks than the Ukrainians are Russians!
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              3. trantor
                trantor 28 December 2015 18: 10 New
                0
                Quote: ayyildiz
                Erdogan wants a referendum in northern Syria and in Iraq ... where the Turkmen live, the more they ask for it!

                That's right, let everyone gather in a handful ... on fuel trucks, otherwise chase them one by one in the mountains.
            3. Tersky
              Tersky 28 December 2015 18: 33 New
              +4
              Quote: cniza
              He will not calm down until he is removed from power, in what way, no difference.

              How what? Experience is yes , remember the Prime Minister Adnan Menderes, the organizer of the Istanbul pogrom of the Greeks in 1955, who, after the military coup in 1961, was pulled up on the gallows. So with old developments, so to speak .... wink
          2. vladimirw
            vladimirw 28 December 2015 16: 50 New
            +1
            He does not want World War 3, he wants to seize Syrian territory under the guise of NATO
      2. subbtin.725
        subbtin.725 28 December 2015 15: 54 New
        +3
        And one more question: did Mr. Erdogan think that the airborne forces of the Russian Federation and air defense systems could somewhat interfere with his plans for the occupation of Syrian territory ?.

        I hope that the Turkish know-it-all will soon be harshly braked.
        1. vladimirw
          vladimirw 28 December 2015 16: 51 New
          0
          hopes for NATO air defense
      3. Starover_Z
        Starover_Z 28 December 2015 15: 55 New
        +5
        As the main point of the "concept" Erdogan called the need to create a "security zone" in Syria.

        Turkey - A New Interchangeable Blade of American World Politics in the Middle East!
        Time will pass and the used tool will be thrown out!
        1. afdjhbn67
          afdjhbn67 28 December 2015 16: 05 New
          +2
          Quote: Starover_Z
          Time will pass and the used tool will be thrown out!

          While they will throw it away - he will let the krovushka go, and to be precise, he has already begun to shed it ..
      4. novobranets
        novobranets 28 December 2015 16: 01 New
        +5
        Quote: oleg-gr
        . Where the Turkish sultans, Napoleons and other "great" characters live.

      5. meriem1
        meriem1 28 December 2015 16: 55 New
        +2
        Quote: oleg-gr
        Erdogan's mind clouded? It's time to talk about the hospital. Where the Turkish sultans, Napoleons and other "great" characters live.


        Not the bosnitska is crying for him, but the rope !!!!
      6. 1976AG
        1976AG 28 December 2015 17: 01 New
        0
        Does he himself believe in that? Likely Russia has harnessed itself to Syria to exchange some bandits for others!
      7. Bulrumeb
        Bulrumeb 28 December 2015 17: 14 New
        0
        No, Erdogan is not even popular there
    2. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov 28 December 2015 16: 01 New
      10
      A zone of Turkish danger in Syria cannot be created, but a security zone in Turkey along its border with Syria really needs to be created.
      1. cap
        cap 28 December 2015 16: 33 New
        +1
        "In other words, the Turkish president, under the banner of the fight against terror, is actually trying to justify (legitimize) the occupation of part of Syrian territory desired by Ankara. At the same time, Erdogan adds that he is going to start a campaign to raise funds for the implementation of this project."
        As the "advanced" youth says: ... "Klava, I wallow!"
        Build a concentration camp on foreign territory?
        Probably the first case in world history!
        There are no words alone exclamations ....!
        1. Weyland
          Weyland 28 December 2015 18: 17 New
          +1
          Quote: cap
          To build a concentration camp on foreign territory? Probably the first case in world history!


          Learn the story! Concentration camps came up with arrogance during the impudent Boer war - and erased them, essno, on occupied territory!
          By the way, the largest Nazi extermination camps - Auschwitz, Majdanek and Treblinka - were located on the territory of Poland.
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    3. Denis Obukhov
      Denis Obukhov 28 December 2015 16: 03 New
      +8
      On this option there will be objections from Syria. There is an alternative, where Syria will not object, the creation of a security zone in Turkey, some 200 kilometers, and even better 300. Ensure the security of the Kurds.
    4. Hyppopotut
      Hyppopotut 28 December 2015 16: 05 New
      +5
      Dreams of the occupation of Syria, like an impotent rape! crying
      1. Corsair0304
        Corsair0304 28 December 2015 16: 34 New
        +4
        this is from which side to look ... they can and rape impotent ...
    5. seti
      seti 28 December 2015 16: 54 New
      +2
      He can tell anything, it is designed primarily for his own audience. But there is a phrase of GDP that now in Syria C-400 and let Turkish planes fly there now. Say do not say, but the Turks are forced to reckon with this.
      1. family
        family tree 28 December 2015 17: 54 New
        0
        This:
        "... I gently pull the trigger
        And in cold blood tracers fly through the air,
        And I want what they want ... "
        These lines are not known to me by the author, and the japas are resting, cho request
    6. The black
      The black 28 December 2015 17: 55 New
      +2
      Erdogan, being an arrogant and unprincipled politician, is almost guaranteed to send troops into Syria and occupy part of its territory, especially since he has long considered it his own. In tactical terms, he will probably be successful. The Syrian army is now exhausted by the long war, and the economy is in decline, therefore They won’t be able to regain their territory. But strategically, the Turks will lose. In the future, this may lead to Turkey losing part of their territories (due to the creation of Kurdistan). And the Turks will not forgive Erdoогan for losing. His finale will be shitty ...
      1. family
        family tree 28 December 2015 18: 43 New
        0
        There was one

        And if two hundred, like Pristina, or a battalion with tanks
    7. adept666
      adept666 28 December 2015 18: 31 New
      +1
      Syria turned out to be a tough nut for Erdogan
      For the sake of objectivity, without the help of the Russian Federation, Syria would have long fallen.
    8. RDX
      RDX 29 December 2015 00: 49 New
      0
      perdogan walked widely, torn his pants
  2. salad
    salad 28 December 2015 15: 41 New
    +4
    Perdogan sick at all am
    1. Hello
      Hello 28 December 2015 15: 55 New
      +3
      Quote: salat
      Perdogan sick at all am

      Why sick? He is trying to achieve his goals, building the Ottoman Empire. He doesn’t have much diplomacy, so he plays as best he can. And he knows how to do cool provocations and then face the brick.
      Moreover, in the east it is not very customary to take into account the weak. Syria is a weakling for him, he does not take you seriously. And also brothers in mind from Saudi and Qatar help. wink
      1. 72jora72
        72jora72 28 December 2015 16: 00 New
        +2
        he does not take you seriously.
        and that was his biggest and last mistake in life ....
        1. Hello
          Hello 28 December 2015 16: 04 New
          +6
          Quote: 72jora72
          and that was his biggest and last mistake in life ....

          We'll wait and see for now that he has a reason for this. I do not want to offend anyone, but they do not respond to the downed plane with sanctions, at least not in Turkey. IMHO. hi
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 28 December 2015 16: 21 New
            +4
            Quote: Hello
            but they don’t respond to the downed plane with sanctions, at least not of Turkey. IMHO

            Or rather, not only sanctions.
          2. quote
            quote 28 December 2015 16: 43 New
            +1
            Quote: Hello
            Quote: 72jora72
            and that was his biggest and last mistake in life ....

            Wait and see,so far he has reason for this. I don't want to offend anyonebut they do not respond to a downed plane with sanctions, at least not Turkey. IMHO. hi

            Before, "something to rattle", give an example of how to respond to a downed plane.
            What a breeze from the "swamps" blew.
            1. Hello
              Hello 28 December 2015 17: 43 New
              +1
              Quote: devis
              Before, "something to rattle", give an example of how to respond to a downed plane.
              What a breeze from the "swamps" blew.

              I see you hurt by life. I will not give you examples of planes I will give an example of Soviet diplomats abducted in Lebanon Do you know what happened next? I will give you an example of an Israeli hijacked plane in 1976. I will give you an example of an erroneous attack of the Americans in 1944 against a Soviet column in Niche, Americans lost about 5-7 aircraft in response. Thousands of these examples.
              And with the swamps, everything is okay, draining us, sir, what about you? wink
          3. prishelec
            prishelec 28 December 2015 17: 15 New
            -1
            Do you offer us to start a war ?!))
      2. afdjhbn67
        afdjhbn67 28 December 2015 16: 04 New
        +4
        Quote: Hello
        And also brothers in mind from Saudi and Qatar help.

        And also Ilya - if the brothers from overseas give the go-ahead, then he will easily send troops into Syria, which I have already written about more than once ..
        1. Hello
          Hello 28 December 2015 17: 33 New
          +2
          Quote: afdjhbn67
          And also Ilya - if the brothers from overseas give the go-ahead, then he will easily send troops into Syria, which I have already written about more than once ..

          I think Erdogan leads the brothers from the United States by the nose, just as he leads Europe by the nose. He has nothing to do with the refugees. And he doesn’t merge the most reliable information with the amers, but they are kept. In general, a friend tries to breed everyone and is very offended when he they don’t believe. It’s like I don’t pretend to be the truth. hi
          1. afdjhbn67
            afdjhbn67 29 December 2015 06: 28 New
            0
            Quote: Hello
            And he doesn’t merge amer with the most reliable information, but they are being conducted.

            On the whole, I agree, but ... the Americans, until they contradict their interests, turn a blind eye to this, the question is where their interests end ..
      3. unsinkable
        unsinkable 28 December 2015 16: 21 New
        0
        Quote: Hello
        Why sick? He is trying to achieve his goals, building the Ottoman Empire.

        You asked a question and you answered it yourself. Only * a patient with a head * can build the Ottoman Empire in the modern world. The first thing that will hinder is the owner in the face of the USA. And yet: he does not take us seriously. A very bold statement. But in case Erdogan’s success in building an empire (imagine for a couple of seconds) those whom he takes seriously (maybe you too) will be the first to rush to bring him a hookah to the throne. hi
        1. Hello
          Hello 28 December 2015 17: 46 New
          0
          Quote: unsinkable
          But if Erdogan succeeds in building an empire (let’s imagine this for a couple of seconds), those he takes seriously (maybe you too) will be the first to rush to bring him a hookah to the throne.

          If Erdogan completes his empire, we will not be there anymore. From a word at all. Or there will be no empire wink
          You do not seriously think that the Sultan will tolerate the Jewish state at its borders, maybe it will if it will be afraid. hi
          1. Eugene-Eugene
            Eugene-Eugene 28 December 2015 18: 12 New
            +2
            Still unsuccessfully, Israel is located, how not cool. It is clear that they do not choose their homeland, but it would be better if it were, say, in Cuba: of the enemies, only sharks and a powerful cartridge near by wink
            1. Hello
              Hello 28 December 2015 18: 36 New
              +5
              Quote: Eugene-Eugene
              Still unsuccessfully, Israel is located, how not cool. It is clear that they do not choose their homeland, but it would be better if it were, say, in Cuba: of the enemies, only sharks and a powerful cartridge near by wink

              But in good shape, the permanent desire to send you to the next world, you know, makes you move. hi
              How is it, even if you have eaten you still have two choices wink
              1. sharp-lad
                sharp-lad 28 December 2015 22: 20 New
                0
                Too much tone turns into stress! You are careful there tonus. smile
            2. padded jacket
              padded jacket 28 December 2015 19: 23 New
              0
              Quote: Eugene-Eugene
              Still, Israel is unsuccessfully located

              Why quite successfully:
              1. Israel can scream loudly - I am surrounded by "evil" Arabs - so give me more money and economic benefits because I am so "white fluffy and defenseless" lol
              And the received "donations" can then be plundered while all around "pity" the unfortunate Israel.
              2. Israel, surrounded by Arab countries and armed with the United States, is an excellent factor in exerting pressure on its neighbors, especially those who, due to circumstances, cannot respond to its aggression and can “freely” strike at them. For example, Lebanon, Syria, Gaza, not to mention Palestine completely occupied by Israel.
              3. Israel can be used, and apparently it is happening as a regional control center for local gang (read terrorist) groups operating against its Arab neighbors.
              4. With the formation of this state, the question of where to put the Jews who did not find a place in a prosperous USA or Europe and in Israel there is always work for them, so to speak, is mainly occupied with how to survive in the conditions of the "unfriendly" environment of the Arabs, the image of which their bosses create and inspire ordinary Jews.
              Hence the conclusion: ordinary Jews, “hard workers” do not decide anything, they have long been brainwashed by creating and maintaining the image of enemies around, and they just as puppets do what they are ordered by richer, more successful Jews from other countries who live in luxury and tranquility.
  3. 3315061
    3315061 28 December 2015 15: 41 New
    +4
    Probably Erdogan sees himself as a kind of modern Turkish sultan and dreams of the revival of the Ottoman Empire, but it included vast territories from Serbia to Iraq from west to east and from Crimea to Egypt from north to south. Only now the times have changed ...
    1. Gani
      Gani 28 December 2015 15: 55 New
      +1
      not only Erdogan ... and the prime minister too - as if he were not the main ideologist of neo-Ottomanism, he even wrote a book. And the social demand (perhaps they have formed, but) is rather big on pan-Turkism and expansion. But he really, rushing rushing, raises the degree and increases rates, and the farther the less chance of a turn, he will drive himself into a corner and with anything left without a head is possible. And he could have probably achieved more with “cunning” and “cunning” - he would have made a bargain with ours and would possibly have got Syria under a soft protectorate, he would have certainly kept his influence there. And if the situation as a result of peddling goes then he will drop his country and lose his head.
    2. Beaver
      Beaver 28 December 2015 16: 09 New
      +2
      Quote: 3315061
      dreams of a revival of the Ottoman Empire, and yet it included vast territories

      So it is, just add Transcaucasia, Central Asia, the Volga region, the Caucasus. This is for a start. And not afraid to choke. am
  4. Vladimirets
    Vladimirets 28 December 2015 15: 41 New
    +6
    Still, Erdogan and his roof on the plane will not calm down. no A more massive provocation is planned.
  5. Electrical
    Electrical 28 December 2015 15: 41 New
    +5
    you need to create a free zone, let the whole bearded rabble from all over Syria gather there, and it’s clear where to bomb, than to look for bearded people all over the republic
  6. vladfill
    vladfill 28 December 2015 15: 41 New
    +6
    "And we will go north, and we will go north" did not the jackal bury?
  7. Engineer
    Engineer 28 December 2015 15: 42 New
    +4
    And I’ll grab part of Iraq, I have no doubt. If I didn’t get too tough, it means it will continue to impudently with the tacit connivance of the West, or rather, with approval.
  8. Black cat
    Black cat 28 December 2015 15: 44 New
    +3
    He settled down well, already received money for refugees, sells free oil from the Islamic State, and plans to get hold of the earth. Not only that, and he wants to have some “donations” from his Turkish fools. A talented thug this Erdogan, however.
    1. padded jacket
      padded jacket 28 December 2015 15: 58 New
      +6
      In fact, our country now needs to do what we don’t do for some reason - Make every effort to displace the Erdogan regime from his post and replace him with a leader allied to our country.
      And then Erdogan not only shot down our plane, not only threatens peace in Syria, not only produces terrorists, but soon, together with the Tel Aviv regime, wants to deprive our country of money from gas supplies to Europe.
      Israel and Turkey are in talks to normalize relations. The Wall Street Journal reports that the parties began secret consultations in Switzerland. The interests of Tel Aviv are represented at a high level - the director of the Mossad, Yosi Cohen, and the special envoy to Turkey, Joseph Chehanover, were sent to the capital of the confederation. Ankara is represented by Deputy Foreign Minister Feridun Sinirlioglu, said the American publication, citing a source in the Israeli government. The diplomatic curtsies of the Jewish state are dictated by geoeconomics. It is no coincidence that Today’s Zaman writes that Turkey will begin to receive Israeli gas in 2020.
      In January 2016, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is scheduled to negotiate with the leaders of Cyprus and Greece, who are ready to contribute to the construction of a gas pipeline to the Apennine Peninsula through its territorial waters. Although this project is fraught with considerable difficulties. Here is how the analytical portal IndraStra.com describes them: “Back in November 2014, Israel invited EU countries to invest in an underwater pipeline to Europe through Cyprus, Crete and mainland Greece, from where it will go by land to other countries of the Old World.
      http://regnum.ru/news/polit/2044950.html
      1. aleks 62 next
        aleks 62 next 28 December 2015 16: 03 New
        +1
        ... "... It is no coincidence that Today’s Zaman writes that Turkey will begin to receive Israeli gas from 2020 ...."

        .... Until 2020, Turkey still needs to live ..... lol
        1. padded jacket
          padded jacket 28 December 2015 17: 20 New
          0
          Quote: aleks 62 next
          Turkey still needs to live up to 2020.

          Turkey is how the country will survive, but I hope Erdogan as a politician is not. I hope that if he leaves the new government of Turkey will not deal with Tel Aviv.
      2. padded jacket
        padded jacket 28 December 2015 16: 05 New
        +4
        Meanwhile, in Syria, an army loyal to its people and Bashar al-Asad continues stubborn battles with terrorists.
        Flickers T-72B received from Russia.

        Militia.
        1. Wiruz
          Wiruz 28 December 2015 16: 19 New
          +1
          Flickers T-72B received from Russia.

          I'm more interested in why the Syrian Yak-130s do not flash anywhere. We, like, lifted the ban on their supply.
          1. padded jacket
            padded jacket 28 December 2015 17: 26 New
            +2
            Quote: Wiruz
            I'm more interested in why the Syrian Yak-130s do not flash anywhere.

            And why is there now the Yak-130? It is much better to spend the money intended for them on new tanks, bulletproof vests and other necessary things for the ground forces and in the sky there are our airborne forces whose effectiveness is much greater even if the air force SAR YAK-130. In addition, personally, I think all the planes of our air group will be transferred to the Syrian Air Force in the future, except for the SU-34.
      3. prishelec
        prishelec 28 December 2015 17: 21 New
        +1
        Quote: quilted jacket
        Make every effort to displace the Erdogan regime from his post and replace him with a leader allied to our country.

        This is a grand proposal however)), but how can we achieve this? .. if we cannot even cope with the Ukrainian regime!
        1. padded jacket
          padded jacket 28 December 2015 17: 30 New
          -1
          Quote: prishelec
          Here is a grand offer however

          You just do not have to be so "kind".
          And to change the regime, relying on his opponents, as we now seem to be doing “hilling” the Kurds.
          1. -Traveller-
            -Traveller- 29 December 2015 00: 03 New
            0
            to replace the power of Erdogan in Turkey with the power of the Kurds? Is this humor or a complete misunderstanding of the situation?
  9. AdekvatNICK
    AdekvatNICK 28 December 2015 15: 44 New
    +2
    Turkey Syria
    -Want we to help you?
    -nea
    - why?
    -Yes, we don’t need to figure it out. Russia helps us, but your help is not needed, and you’re some sort of finished ones. Shot planes ....
    -Well, we will help, because we can and want
    Yes, they didn’t say the same
    - well, in short, we all begin to help
    -You didn’t say normal language
    -Well, we have already entered the military into your territory
    -you violate our rights, withdraw your troops
    -What is the conclusion, we will build houses for you. We can build
    -You roll off "you don’t understand at all *
    - in short, we will continue to help
    1. -Traveller-
      -Traveller- 29 December 2015 00: 04 New
      0
      so perhaps it will be. only without dialogue, as Erdogan and Assad have nothing to talk about.
  10. Andrea
    Andrea 28 December 2015 15: 45 New
    +2
    What is this? Ukraine 2.0? Something has already heard such nonsense. The consultants, apparently, are the same.
  11. Armored optimist
    Armored optimist 28 December 2015 15: 45 New
    21
    I work in the construction business with the Turks. Today’s Putin Decree plunged them into a panic. Turkish companies sell equipment and fold.
    1. Rokossovsky
      Rokossovsky 28 December 2015 16: 06 New
      +6
      I work in the construction business with the Turks

      There was such a story in the 2012 year ... Then the Turks carried out some kind of construction work in the new terminal of the Vladivostok airport. A water pipe passes under the ceiling, but the Turkish "specialists" in this place must pass the wall according to plans! And what do you think they are doing? Correctly! They cut part of the pipe to the width of the wall and vortex the partition, blocking the cut piece of pipe in this wall! Naturally, when they gave pressure to the pipe, the wall flowed like a virgin at a Tokyo hotel concert! And this is just one case out of a great many! The guys from the contracting company were, to put it mildly, in touch with the professionalism of these entities! hi
      1. Armored optimist
        Armored optimist 28 December 2015 16: 43 New
        12
        the owner of our company - the Turks, said something like that - We taught the Russian monolith. I point to the Ostankino tower - did you teach us this? They will not die of modesty.
      2. Weyland
        Weyland 28 December 2015 18: 39 New
        +1
        Quote: Rokossovsky
        The guys from the contracting company were, to put it mildly, in touch with the professionalism of these entities!


        It was necessary to google first:
        "If you want to build - call the Greeks!
        Do you want to break - call the Turks
        "
        The author of the quote is the great poet and theologian Jalal-ed-din Rumi, revered by the Turks as a saint ... laughing
      3. Weyland
        Weyland 28 December 2015 18: 39 New
        0
        Quote: Rokossovsky
        The guys from the contracting company were, to put it mildly, in touch with the professionalism of these entities!


        It was necessary to google first:
        "If you want to build - call the Greeks!
        Do you want to break - call the Turks
        "
        The author of the quote is the great poet and theologian Jalal-ed-din Rumi, revered by the Turks as a saint ... laughing
  12. Pulya
    Pulya 28 December 2015 15: 46 New
    +3
    Apparently Turkey with this "Erdogan" will soon cease to exist ... Internal tension will tear this country apart by two or three subjects.
    We will see!
  13. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 28 December 2015 15: 49 New
    +5
    Sultan Erdogan has already tried on the crown. And she has grown. Now shoot only with your head. It is likely that the plans for the occupation of northern Syria were so close to implementation that the work of our air forces on this territory led to "reflex" actions. For which now ALL Turkey will pay.
    1. Wiruz
      Wiruz 28 December 2015 15: 56 New
      17
      Sultan Erdogan has already tried on the crown

      For each sultan we find our Emperor laughing
      1. -Traveller-
        -Traveller- 29 December 2015 00: 06 New
        0
        in the role of emperor Putin jude low?
  14. AdekvatNICK
    AdekvatNICK 28 December 2015 15: 52 New
    +3
    Now it’s clear that Erdogan was planning to specifically go to most of Syria, but then the Russians arrived.
  15. Wiruz
    Wiruz 28 December 2015 15: 54 New
    +6
    Let's throw off a glass of polonium to the Turkish Sultan laughing
    1. novobranets
      novobranets 28 December 2015 16: 05 New
      +1
      Enough for him a glass of rat poison and a bag of dust for a snack, there’s nothing to pamper everyone with expensive chalcogenes. yes
      1. Wiruz
        Wiruz 28 December 2015 16: 16 New
        +2
        Enough for him a glass of rat poison and a bag of dust for a snack, there’s nothing to pamper everyone with expensive chalcogenes.

        I would still insist on polonium. Traditions must be observed bully
        1. novobranets
          novobranets 28 December 2015 16: 50 New
          +2
          No no no. stop This rat is not worthy of such frills. The rat-snout to him is what he deserves and retribution. lol Well, except that with a snack options are possible-warfarin, brodifacum, bromadiolone, or even some yummy. good
  16. samarin1969
    samarin1969 28 December 2015 16: 04 New
    +1
    I repeat. Erdogan Turkamonov (Northern Syria) will not surrender. In this he is supported (passionately) by the majority of Turkish citizens (with the exception of the owners of cognac hotels) wink ).
    1. Wiruz
      Wiruz 28 December 2015 16: 17 New
      +4
      In such cases, we just need to play the Kurdish card bully
  17. Berkyt. ru
    Berkyt. ru 28 December 2015 16: 08 New
    +1
    It is very likely that again the deer with the owners scratch their turnips, think the thought. Both Sinai and Sushka caught a calm.
  18. Zeppelin ml.
    Zeppelin ml. 28 December 2015 16: 12 New
    +2
    cunning. Accumulated refugees to, on the one hand, to blackmail Europe for knocking out money and preferences, on the other, to establish a protectorate over a piece of Syria? This cube is even theoretically unable to coexist peacefully.
  19. bad
    bad 28 December 2015 16: 13 New
    +2
    At the first stage, the zone will stretch along the border at 98 km and will be removed inland (Syrian territory) at 45 km, while we can expand it. It will be a terror free zone, and internally displaced persons and those who are in camps in Turkey will be able to live there.
    ..heh..as perdogan planned everything .. just like on a book -cooky bamboo! our diplomats and military will break you .. learn history ..
    1. kit-kat
      kit-kat 28 December 2015 16: 19 New
      0
      To the photo:

      something smells of Ukraine.
      1. Wiruz
        Wiruz 28 December 2015 16: 22 New
        +1
        To the photo:

        something smells of Ukraine.

        Yeah. Erdogan will soon demonstrate to GRU reporters who were arrested in Turkey laughing
        1. kit-kat
          kit-kat 28 December 2015 16: 23 New
          +5
          No, I’m talking about "PMO". Not pretty. The enemy is the enemy, why go down to the kindergarten level?
  20. Siberian
    Siberian 28 December 2015 16: 24 New
    +1
    This is against the background of the reception of wounded fighters for treatment in Turkish clinics
    By international the right to treat everyone should be, well, and then under the tribunal, like terrorists, and not again on terror and cutting heads.
    At the first stage, the zone will stretch along the border for 98 km and will be removed inland (Syrian territory) for 45 km.
    This is already the occupation of a foreign state, for the convenience of protection and delivery (counter-gang) of petroleum products. For this, neither harsh (SJ-SI-PU-SI), but cruel measures are needed.
  21. rosstov
    rosstov 28 December 2015 16: 32 New
    +1
    Yes, this Perdogan is a scumbag. It’s twisting itself, it’ll crawl into any ass, you can’t let your eyes go from this bastard.
  22. FIREMAN
    FIREMAN 28 December 2015 16: 34 New
    0
    He needs to send a ramrod from the “three-ruler” - roll up his lips!
  23. yuriy55
    yuriy55 28 December 2015 16: 36 New
    -1
    Not only that, Erdogan is about to launch on North Syria and Turkish construction companies, in order to be able to also make money on the occupation:
  24. unsinkable
    unsinkable 28 December 2015 16: 43 New
    0
    Quote: unsinkable
    Quote: Hello
    Why sick? He is trying to achieve his goals, building the Ottoman Empire.

    You asked a question and you answered it yourself. Only * a patient with a head * can build the Ottoman Empire in the modern world. The first thing that will hinder is the owner in the face of the USA. And yet: he does not take us seriously. A very bold statement. But in case Erdogan’s success in building an empire (imagine for a couple of seconds) those whom he takes seriously (maybe you too) will be the first to rush to bring him a hookah to the throne. hi
  25. am808s
    am808s 28 December 2015 16: 47 New
    0
    Quote: cap
    "In other words, the Turkish president, under the banner of the fight against terror, is actually trying to justify (legitimize) the occupation of part of Syrian territory desired by Ankara. At the same time, Erdogan adds that he is going to start a campaign to raise funds for the implementation of this project."
    As the "advanced" youth says: ... "Klava, I wallow!"
    Build a concentration camp on foreign territory?
    Probably the first case in world history!
    There are no words alone exclamations ....!

    Quote: cap
    "In other words, the Turkish president, under the banner of the fight against terror, is actually trying to justify (legitimize) the occupation of part of Syrian territory desired by Ankara. At the same time, Erdogan adds that he is going to start a campaign to raise funds for the implementation of this project."
    As the "advanced" youth says: ... "Klava, I wallow!"
    Build a concentration camp on foreign territory?
    Probably the first case in world history!
    There are no words alone exclamations ....!

    We say, Do not wash it like that. We need Syrian oil, even if you crack And in the future, Iraqi and Iranian will not hurt. It rolls lips not childishly.
  26. Velizariy
    Velizariy 28 December 2015 16: 47 New
    +1
    Quote: Wiruz
    Flickers T-72B received from Russia.

    I'm more interested in why the Syrian Yak-130s do not flash anywhere. We, like, lifted the ban on their supply.

    Well, probably because the Yak-130 is not an AKM machine and not a T-72 - you have to learn for longer ...
    I think they will appear soon, not Syrian so Iranian)
  27. Kirill750
    Kirill750 28 December 2015 17: 02 New
    0
    I have a feeling that Erdogashka completely blown away everything thinks that NATO would intervene, but they made it clear that no one will fight because Syria and others can kick and hurt this mug
  28. Bulrumeb
    Bulrumeb 28 December 2015 17: 13 New
    0
    ... and internally displaced persons and those who are in camps in Turkey will be able to live there.


    read here the terrorists who are currently training in camps in Turkey
  29. Olegater
    Olegater 28 December 2015 17: 13 New
    0
    At the first stage, the zone will stretch along the border for 98 km and will be removed inland (Syrian territory) by 45 km, while we can expand it. But this is a little annoying. Where 45 there and 100, and to our base probably no more than 200 km. So they want to move quietly glanders and jerk out to get ours? Well, at such h.i.t.s.a.s.a.d.hy.h. Turk MO has a bolt with a screw. Indeed, in the first place it is the occupation of a second country (the first Iraq) and in the second the target is m.a.t.s.p. all the same, our base and the military, as hostages and technology, are based on both airplanes and air defense. How do you want to make mistakes !!!!!!!!
    1. -Traveller-
      -Traveller- 29 December 2015 00: 23 New
      0
      from our base to the Turkish border, 50-60 km, in principle, with great desire, you can get artillery (t-300 for example) without crossing the border, but I doubt what will happen.
      it’s easier for the opposition to bring second-hand hail, you can always move out that it’s captured from the Syrian army, but it rolled in our Donbass.
  30. bankirchik34
    bankirchik34 28 December 2015 17: 23 New
    0
    Well, okay, why, he took 3 billion euros from geyrops, squeezed out a piece of land from Syria, settled all the refugees there mixed with the bearded, and here you are. He also cuts down money on the construction of houses, an effective EP manager
  31. pvv113
    pvv113 28 December 2015 17: 32 New
    +1
    At the first stage, the zone will stretch along the border for 98 km and will be removed inland (Syrian territory) by 45 km, while we can expand it.

    Why not make this zone deep into Turkish territory. After all, it is in Turkey that the Basmachi undergo spa treatment hi
  32. aleks700
    aleks700 28 December 2015 17: 38 New
    0
    And one more question: did Mr. Erdogan think that the airborne forces of the Russian Federation and air defense systems could somewhat interfere with his plans for the occupation of Syrian territory? ..
    If you threatened for your downed plane with your finger, then the regular army will not be touched. This conclusion was made for themselves in Turkey.
  33. red rocket
    red rocket 28 December 2015 17: 43 New
    0
    Late already Perdogan!
  34. triglav
    triglav 28 December 2015 17: 56 New
    +1
    Ataturk gives! It seems that one person writes tests of speeches to him and parashenka.
    1. padded jacket
      padded jacket 28 December 2015 18: 00 New
      +1
      Quote: triglav
      It seems that one person writes tests of speeches to him and the kid.

      Most likely this is the main text of the speeches for Erdogan and Poroshenko written in the USA and amendments to it with an eye on the local flavor are made in Israel lol
  35. dchegrinec
    dchegrinec 28 December 2015 18: 02 New
    0
    Erdogan resembles a snake that creeps in everywhere where it is not until someone steps on it and passes it like a gut on the sidewalk!
  36. AdekvatNICK
    AdekvatNICK 28 December 2015 18: 11 New
    0
    the usa seeing how the cap is on all sides ISIS introduced a new player who used to be content with quiet oil trading. Now Erdogan, with the hidden support of NATO and the United States, begins to expand Syria. here you have the whole deal. Erdogan had nothing to lose promises before the election, he upset a mountain, and thought that it would work out a lot, but then we hit them with a source of income that should have been used. America just seems to have transferred part of me igil on and on earth Syria Turks estesstvenno subject to certain usloviy.Kakih? We’ll see soon. But there is no doubt that Russia is already in the conditions there.
  37. Santjaga_Garka
    Santjaga_Garka 28 December 2015 18: 21 New
    +2
    Old Turk Erdogan,
    Smoked a bumblebee, one glass,
    Smoked a shmal, another glass
    And came up with a cool plan!

    Territory capture plan,
    Territories in the world of the sea!
    But beckons him, a grabber,
    Territory in the south!
  38. Ostost
    Ostost 28 December 2015 19: 07 New
    -1
    And one more question: did Mr. Erdogan think that the airborne forces of the Russian Federation and air defense systems could somewhat interfere with his plans for the occupation of Syrian territory? .. - But didn’t the author think that this phrase carries hatred? And in which case Turkish tanks will be at the base in Khmeimim in a few hours? Well, that’s just it, mutual fantasies)).
    1. Cobra77
      Cobra77 28 December 2015 20: 17 New
      +1
      In a few hours they won’t. But in a few days they can. Though with losses. The Syrians really can not restrain the Turks now. And the VKS will not be able to stop them if the Turks provide themselves with air cover. And as soon as the Turks approach 15 km, the base will need to be evacuated. True, it must be borne in mind that an attack on the base of the Russian Federation is equivalent to an attack on the territory of the Russian Federation. This is a slightly different level of conflict. And then the Turks can slow down from Washington. Provocation is one thing, another is a direct military conflict with incomprehensible consequences and prospects.
  39. Cobra77
    Cobra77 28 December 2015 19: 47 New
    -1
    Well, the lip is not a fool for this gentleman. But here the question is more complicated, in my opinion. Purely technically, he can crank up such a fortel. Syrians have little to oppose. And the Russian Federation may not decide on a direct military response, at least even locally in that zone. The consequences will be far-reaching. This will essentially be the entry into the war with Turkey. Even if NATO is on the sidelines. It doesn’t matter that this will be the Turkish invasion of Syria, and we will help the legitimate government. Everything will be presented differently, the events of recent years have shown it perfectly. The Bosphorus in this version will close immediately, the reason is sufficient. On the economic sanctions of the Russian Federation, Turkey, even more do not care than us in the West. We definitely won’t conduct a ground operation, Vova’s eggs are not so iron. Yes, and how to supply, how to transfer? Here after all it is necessary not only to bring a battalion of marines, here it is necessary a couple of motorized infantry divisions with reinforcement. VKS alone can not cope there. Yes, and suffer losses, though not small most likely. Turks also know how to fight. The question is just how much the Turks need it, and whether they can or not.
    1. Nirvanko
      Nirvanko 29 December 2015 00: 15 New
      0
      In order for them to enter Syria, they need air supremacy. With Russian planes in the sky of Syria, this is out of the question. In the end, this is tantamount to declaring war on Russia. The United States will not fight with Russia over Turkey, this is our Caribbean crisis and not theirs. As a result, it may so happen that Turkey will be left alone against Russia with one or another support from the United States and Britain, and this will automatically put an end to NATO so its fundamental principles will be destroyed.
  40. -Traveller-
    -Traveller- 28 December 2015 23: 01 New
    0
    Moreover, Erdogan is going to launch Turkish construction companies in northern Syria in order to be able to earn money on occupation

    interestingly, after the war, really, nobody from Turkey’s neighbors is able to rebuild Syria again, simply because no one has such production facilities.
    therefore, if Syria is divided into spheres of influence in various parts of the country, the same devastation will be as it is now, and Turkey in a few years may look like this (photo of Iraqi Kurdistan):
    1. Nirvanko
      Nirvanko 29 December 2015 00: 22 New
      0
      Cope without ghouls. First they help to destroy the country and then also load their industry. Iraq and Iran will help if necessary.
      1. -Traveller-
        -Traveller- 29 December 2015 00: 31 New
        0
        Quote: Nirvanko
        Iraq and Iran will help if necessary

        and how will these poor fellows help? Iraq doesn’t produce anything except oil, Iran is far away - it will be difficult to deal with logistics, and they don’t have much money. and Turkish construction firms figachat quickly and reliably anything, even the Kazan Universiade, the Sochi Olympics, the Moscow City, the World Cup in Russia and Qatar, the whole cities in Iraqi Kurdistan. Turks produce both building materials and construction equipment, and most importantly they are not far from transporting all this.
  41. Cobra77
    Cobra77 29 December 2015 22: 38 New
    0
    Quote: Nirvanko
    In order for them to enter Syria, they need air supremacy. With Russian planes in the sky of Syria, this is out of the question. In the end, this is tantamount to declaring war on Russia. The United States will not fight with Russia over Turkey, this is our Caribbean crisis and not theirs. As a result, it may so happen that Turkey will be left alone against Russia with one or another support from the United States and Britain, and this will automatically put an end to NATO so its fundamental principles will be destroyed.


    What is excluded? Knocking our aircraft out of there? Yes, do not tell. Knock out, and quickly. How many of our fighters are there? And what about the air defense? Do you really think that the cut-off C400 complete with the even more cut-off air defense of Moscow / Varyag in that profile of the area will be able to stop the Turks? It would be nice to protect yourself and the air base. And complete superiority in the air is not required. It is enough to keep ours at a distance from ground forces. Or do you think we’ll extinguish tanks from the Caspian with gauges? And keep in mind they too will bring their Patriots closer to the scene. And our fly will also be problematic. Our people do not have sufficient stability there. First of all, from the fact that the Syrian troops are now rather weak, and our ground troops are not there and not expected.

    Well, there will be no declaration of war, there will simply be extrusion of ours if that. The states will simply close their eyes, put Turkey on something and all. This will not affect NATO. Article 5 does not oblige to personally intervene in the conflict, only to provide assistance. Especially when Turkey itself will not ask for help. No reason. Cope themselves. Do not build illusions. Turkey is strong there.