Erdogan actually presented plans for the occupation of the north of Syria

Turkish President Erdogan, who the other day "saved a person from suicide," again acted as a kind of Turkish counterpart of Santa Claus. This time Erdogan decided to declare, no less than nothing, about the concept of fighting terrorism in the Middle East. This is against the backdrop of receiving wounded militants for treatment in Turkish clinics ... Erdogan called the need to create a "security zone" in Syria as the main point of the "concept". The statement of the Turkish leader leads TASS:

At the first stage, the zone will stretch along the border at 98 km and will be removed inland (Syrian territory) at 45 km, while we can expand it. It will be a terror free zone, and internally displaced persons and those who are in camps in Turkey will be able to live there.

In other words, the Turkish president, under the slogans of fighting terrorism, is actually trying to justify (legitimize) Ankara’s desired occupation of a part of Syrian territory. At the same time, Erdogan adds that he is going to start a campaign to raise funds for the implementation of this project.

Moreover, Erdogan is going to launch to the north of Syria and Turkish construction companies in order to be able to earn more on the occupation:

This area (construction) is highly developed in Turkey, we can build housing in accordance with the needs of Syria and thus partially satisfy the need for it.

The question arises: did Sydia herself ever ask Erdogan about something like that, or does he think that his presidency automatically extends beyond the borders of Turkish territory? And one more question: did Mr. Erdogan think that the aircraft of the Russian Aerospace Forces and air defense systems could somewhat hinder his plans for the occupation of Syrian territory? ..

Comments

[avvg]

Syria was a tough nut for Erdogan, Erdogan’s desire was no longer enough, the train left.

[oleg-gr]

Has Erdogan lost his mind? It's time to talk about the hospital. Where Turkish sultans, Napoleons and other "great" characters live.

[gudgeon]

The United States does not support the call by Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan to establish security zones in Syria. White House spokeswoman Joshua Ernest confirmed this on Tuesday at a regular press briefing.

Something this under-sultan was completely out of hand ... Oh, they will punish you, Erdik ... Not only Russia and not only tomatoes.

[79807420129]

The scoreboard will not crack, and it seems like it wants to start the 3rd World War, because after all, only ashes will remain from Turkey, but it’s a fool.

[cniza]

Quote: 79807420129

The scoreboard will not crack, and it seems like it wants to start the 3rd World War, because after all, only ashes will remain from Turkey, but it’s a fool.

He will not calm down until he is removed from power, in what way, no difference.

[SRC P-15]

Moreover, Erdogan is going to launch to the north of Syria and Turkish construction companies in order to be able to earn more on the occupation:

In this way, Erdogan wants to relieve tension in the Turkish construction sector, after the Turkish companies flee from Russia? Oh well...

[Tatyana]

From the text of the article
The Turkish president, under the slogans of the fight against terror, is actually trying to justify (legitimize) the Ankara’s desired occupation of part of Syrian territory in northern Syria and is going to not only launch a fundraising campaign for this project, but also launch Turkish construction companies there to be able to earn more on occupation.

There is nothing surprising in this. This colonialist technique has long been known as the "Doctrine of the Shock of Capitalism of Disasters" of the "free" marketer M. Friedman, and it has long been worked out in the world of the USA and other cap. NATO countries in their neocolonies, in which they militarily carried out coups.
Its essence is to first, by military means or other forceful methods, clean up the territory for the construction companies of the invaders from the local indigenous population, and then populate it with their own ethnic group. At the same time, the military first earn money in the war, and then the construction companies of the invaders.
Moreover, in the United States under the Pentagon, according to the “Doctrine of Shock” by M. Friedman, military affairs, medicine, and construction are generally built on a “private” -commercial basis, as a result of which corruption, for example in the US Armed Forces, is enormous. And that is precisely why, in particular, Ukrainians recently received in fact from the United States - for a considerable amount of money (!) - military wrecked equipment instead of new equipment. The Turks will go and, in principle, are already following the same path.

[ayyildiz]

I read that Erdogan wants to arrange a referendum in the north of Syria and in Iraq. He said Russia organized a referendum in Crimea. And we will also arrange where the Turkmen live, the more they ask for it!

[Weyland]

Quote: ayyildiz

And we will also arrange where the Turkman live, the more they ask for it!

To start, we will also hold a referendum among Turkish Kurds . And then, in addition, we will hold a referendum in Canada regarding the rights of local Ukrainians : For the Turkoman are no more Turks than the Ukrainians are Russians!

[trantor]

Quote: ayyildiz

Erdogan wants a referendum in northern Syria and in Iraq ... where the Turkmen live, the more they ask for it!

That's right, let everyone gather in a handful ... on fuel trucks, otherwise chase them one by one in the mountains.

[Tersky]

Quote: cniza

He will not calm down until he is removed from power, in what way, no difference.

How what? Experience is , remember the Prime Minister Adnan Menderes, the organizer of the Istanbul pogrom of the Greeks in 1955, who, after the military coup in 1961, was pulled up on the gallows. So with old developments, so to speak ....

[vladimirw]

He does not want World War 3, he wants to seize Syrian territory under the guise of NATO

[subbtin.725]

And one more question: did Mr. Erdogan think that the airborne forces of the Russian Federation and air defense systems could somewhat interfere with his plans for the occupation of Syrian territory ?.

I hope that the Turkish know-it-all will soon be harshly braked.

[vladimirw]

hopes for NATO air defense

[Starover_Z]

As the main point of the "concept" Erdogan called the need to create a "security zone" in Syria.

Turkey - A New Interchangeable Blade of American World Politics in the Middle East!
Time will pass and the used tool will be thrown out!

[afdjhbn67]

Quote: Starover_Z

Time will pass and the used tool will be thrown out!

While they will throw it away - he will let the krovushka go, and to be precise, he has already begun to shed it ..

[novobranets]

Quote: oleg-gr

... Where Turkish sultans, Napoleons and other "great" characters live.

[meriem1]

Quote: oleg-gr

Has Erdogan lost his mind? It's time to talk about the hospital. Where Turkish sultans, Napoleons and other "great" characters live.

Not the bosnitska is crying for him, but the rope !!!!

[1976AG]

Does he himself believe in that? Likely Russia has harnessed itself to Syria to exchange some bandits for others!

[Bulrumeb]

No, Erdogan is not even popular there

[Denis Obukhov]

A zone of Turkish danger in Syria cannot be created, but a security zone in Turkey along its border with Syria really needs to be created.

[cap]

"In other words, the Turkish president, under the slogan of combating terror, is actually trying to justify (legitimize) Ankara's desired occupation of a part of Syrian territory. At the same time, Erdogan adds that he is going to start a fundraising campaign for the implementation of this project."
As the "advanced" youth say: ... "Klava, I'm lying around!"
Build a concentration camp on foreign territory?
Probably the first case in world history!
There are no words alone exclamations ....!

[Weyland]

Quote: cap

To build a concentration camp on foreign territory? Probably the first case in world history!

Learn the story! Concentration camps came up with arrogance during the impudent Boer war - and erased them, essno, on occupied territory!
By the way, the largest Nazi extermination camps - Auschwitz, Majdanek and Treblinka - were located on the territory of Poland...

[Denis Obukhov]

On this option there will be objections from Syria. There is an alternative, where Syria will not object, the creation of a security zone in Turkey, some 200 kilometers, and even better 300. Ensure the security of the Kurds.

[Hyppopotut]

Dreams of the occupation of Syria, like an impotent rape!

[Corsair0304]

this is from which side to look ... they can and rape impotent ...

[seti]

He can tell anything, it is designed primarily for his own audience. But there is a phrase of GDP that now in Syria C-400 and let Turkish planes fly there now. Say do not say, but the Turks are forced to reckon with this.

[family tree]

This:
"... I gently pull the trigger
And in cold blood tracers fly through the air,
And I want what they want ... "
These lines are not known to me by the author, and the japas are resting, cho

[The black]

Erdogan, being an arrogant and unprincipled politician, is almost guaranteed to send troops into Syria and occupy part of its territory, especially since he has long considered it his own. In tactical terms, he will probably be successful. The Syrian army is now exhausted by the long war, and the economy is in decline, therefore They won’t be able to regain their territory. But strategically, the Turks will lose. In the future, this may lead to Turkey losing part of their territories (due to the creation of Kurdistan). And the Turks will not forgive Erdoогan for losing. His finale will be shitty ...

[family tree]

There was one

And if two hundred, like Pristina, or a battalion with tanks

[adept666]

Syria turned out to be a tough nut for Erdogan

For the sake of objectivity, without the help of the Russian Federation, Syria would have long fallen.

[RDX]

perdogan walked widely, torn his pants

[salad]

Perdogan sick at all

[Hello]

Quote: salat

Perdogan sick at all

Why sick? He is trying to achieve his goals, building the Ottoman Empire. He doesn’t have much diplomacy, so he plays as best he can. And he knows how to do cool provocations and then face the brick.
Moreover, in the east it is not very customary to take into account the weak. Syria is a weakling for him, he does not take you seriously. And also brothers in mind from Saudi and Qatar help.

[72jora72]

he does not take you seriously.

and that was his biggest and last mistake in life ....

[Hello]

Quote: 72jora72

and that was his biggest and last mistake in life ....

We'll wait and see for now that he has a reason for this. I do not want to offend anyone, but they do not respond to the downed plane with sanctions, at least not in Turkey. IMHO.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Hello

but they don’t respond to the downed plane with sanctions, at least not of Turkey. IMHO

Or rather, not only sanctions.

[quote]

Quote: Hello

Quote: 72jora72

and that was his biggest and last mistake in life ....

Wait and see,so far he has reason for this. I don't want to offend anyonebut they do not respond to a downed plane with sanctions, at least not Turkey. IMHO.

Before, "what, rattle", give an example of how they respond to a downed plane.
What a breeze from the "swamps" blew.

[Hello]

Quote: devis

Before, "what, rattle", give an example of how they respond to a downed plane.
What a breeze from the "swamps" blew.

I see you hurt by life. I will not give you examples of planes I will give an example of Soviet diplomats abducted in Lebanon Do you know what happened next? I will give you an example of an Israeli hijacked plane in 1976. I will give you an example of an erroneous attack of the Americans in 1944 against a Soviet column in Niche, Americans lost about 5-7 aircraft in response. Thousands of these examples.
And with the swamps, everything is okay, draining us, sir, what about you?

[prishelec]

Do you offer us to start a war ?!))

[afdjhbn67]

Quote: Hello

And also brothers in mind from Saudi and Qatar help.

And also Ilya - if the brothers from overseas give the go-ahead, then he will easily send troops into Syria, which I have already written about more than once ..

[Hello]

Quote: afdjhbn67

And also Ilya - if the brothers from overseas give the go-ahead, then he will easily send troops into Syria, which I have already written about more than once ..

I think Erdogan leads the brothers from the United States by the nose, just as he leads Europe by the nose. He has nothing to do with the refugees. And he doesn’t merge the most reliable information with the amers, but they are kept. In general, a friend tries to breed everyone and is very offended when he they don’t believe. It’s like I don’t pretend to be the truth.

[afdjhbn67]

Quote: Hello

And he doesn’t merge amer with the most reliable information, but they are being conducted.

On the whole, I agree, but ... the Americans, until they contradict their interests, turn a blind eye to this, the question is where their interests end ..

[unsinkable]

Quote: Hello

Why sick? He is trying to achieve his goals, building the Ottoman Empire.

You asked a question and you answered it yourself. Only * a patient with a head * can build the Ottoman Empire in the modern world. The first thing that will hinder is the owner in the face of the USA. And yet: he does not take us seriously. A very bold statement. But in case Erdogan’s success in building an empire (imagine for a couple of seconds) those whom he takes seriously (maybe you too) will be the first to rush to bring him a hookah to the throne.

[Hello]

Quote: unsinkable

But if Erdogan succeeds in building an empire (let’s imagine this for a couple of seconds), those he takes seriously (maybe you too) will be the first to rush to bring him a hookah to the throne.

If Erdogan completes his empire, we will not be there anymore. From a word at all. Or there will be no empire
You do not seriously think that the Sultan will tolerate the Jewish state at its borders, maybe it will if it will be afraid.

[Eugene-Eugene]

Still unsuccessfully, Israel is located, how not cool. It is clear that they do not choose their homeland, but it would be better if it were, say, in Cuba: of the enemies, only sharks and a powerful cartridge near by

[Hello]

Quote: Eugene-Eugene

Still unsuccessfully, Israel is located, how not cool. It is clear that they do not choose their homeland, but it would be better if it were, say, in Cuba: of the enemies, only sharks and a powerful cartridge near by

But in good shape, the permanent desire to send you to the next world, you know, makes you move.
How is it, even if you have eaten you still have two choices

[sharp-lad]

Too much tone turns into stress! You are careful there tonus.

[padded jacket]

Quote: Eugene-Eugene

Still, Israel is unsuccessfully located

Why quite successfully:
1. Israel can loudly "yell" - I am surrounded by "evil" Arabs - so give me more money and economic benefits, because I am so "white fluffy and defenseless"
And the received "donations" can then be plundered while everyone around "pity" the unfortunate Israel.
2. Israel, being surrounded by Arab countries and armed by the United States, is an excellent factor of pressure on neighbors, especially those that, due to circumstances, cannot respond to its aggression and it "freely" can strike at them, for example Lebanon, Syria, Gaza, not to mention completely occupied by Israel Palestine.
3. Israel can be used, and apparently it is happening as a regional control center for local gang (read terrorist) groups operating against its Arab neighbors.
4. With the formation of this state, the question of what to do with the Jews who did not find a place in the prosperous USA or Europe, and in Israel, so to speak, there is always work for them and they are mainly busy with how to survive in the conditions of the "unfriendly" environment of the Arabs "evil" the image of which is created and instilled in ordinary Jews by their bosses.
Hence the conclusion: ordinary Jews "hard workers" do not solve anything they have long been "brainwashed" by creating and maintaining the image of enemies around and they only, like puppets, perform what richer more successful Jews from other countries who live in luxury and tranquility order them to do.

[3315061]

Probably Erdogan sees himself as a kind of modern Turkish sultan and dreams of the revival of the Ottoman Empire, but it included vast territories from Serbia to Iraq from west to east and from Crimea to Egypt from north to south. Only now the times have changed ...

[Gani]

not only Erdogan ... and the prime minister too - he is not the main ideologist of neo-Ottomanism, he even wrote a book. And the social demand (maybe formed by them, but) is rather big for pan-Turkism and expansion. But he really, rushing like a drill, raises the degree and increases the rates, and the further the less chances for a turn - he will drive himself into a corner and will be left with nothing and without a head, perhaps. And he could, probably, have achieved more by "cunning" and "cunning" - he would have bargained with ours and might have got Syria under a soft protectorate, he would have certainly retained his influence there. And if the situation eventually goes haywire, then he will drop his country and lose his head.

[Castor]

Quote: 3315061

dreams of a revival of the Ottoman Empire, and yet it included vast territories

So it is, just add Transcaucasia, Central Asia, the Volga region, the Caucasus. This is for a start. And not afraid to choke.

[Vladimirets]

Still, Erdogan and his roof on the plane will not calm down. A more massive provocation is planned.

[Electrics]

you need to create a free zone, let the whole bearded rabble from all over Syria gather there, and it’s clear where to bomb, than to look for bearded people all over the republic

[vladfill]

"And we will go north, and we will go north" is the jackal overstated?

[Engineer]

And I’ll grab part of Iraq, I have no doubt. If I didn’t get too tough, it means it will continue to impudently with the tacit connivance of the West, or rather, with approval.

[Black cat]

Well settled, has already received money for refugees, sells free oil from ISIS, and plans to get hold of some land. It is not enough that he wants to get money from his Turkish fools by "donations". A talented bandit, this Erdogan, however.

[padded jacket]

In fact, our country now needs to do what we don’t do for some reason - Make every effort to displace the Erdogan regime from his post and replace him with a leader allied to our country.
And then Erdogan not only shot down our plane, not only threatens peace in Syria, not only produces terrorists, but soon, together with the Tel Aviv regime, wants to deprive our country of money from gas supplies to Europe.
Israel and Turkey are in talks to normalize relations. The Wall Street Journal reports that the parties began secret consultations in Switzerland. The interests of Tel Aviv are represented at a high level - the director of the Mossad, Yosi Cohen, and the special envoy to Turkey, Joseph Chehanover, were sent to the capital of the confederation. Ankara is represented by Deputy Foreign Minister Feridun Sinirlioglu, said the American publication, citing a source in the Israeli government. The diplomatic curtsies of the Jewish state are dictated by geoeconomics. It is no coincidence that Today’s Zaman writes that Turkey will begin to receive Israeli gas in 2020.
In January 2016, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is scheduled to negotiate with the leaders of Cyprus and Greece, who are ready to contribute to the construction of a gas pipeline to the Apennine Peninsula through its territorial waters. Although this project is fraught with considerable difficulties. Here is how the analytical portal IndraStra.com describes them: “Back in November 2014, Israel invited EU countries to invest in an underwater pipeline to Europe through Cyprus, Crete and mainland Greece, from where it will go by land to other countries of the Old World.
http://regnum.ru/news/polit/2044950.html

[aleks 62 next]

... "... It is no coincidence that Today's Zaman newspaper writes that Turkey will start receiving Israeli gas from 2020 ...."

.... Until 2020, Turkey still needs to live .....

[padded jacket]

Quote: aleks 62 next

Turkey still needs to live up to 2020.

Turkey is how the country will survive, but I hope Erdogan as a politician is not. I hope that if he leaves the new government of Turkey will not deal with Tel Aviv.

[padded jacket]

Meanwhile, in Syria, an army loyal to its people and Bashar al-Asad continues stubborn battles with terrorists.
Flickers T-72B received from Russia.

Militia.

[Wiruz]

Flickers T-72B received from Russia.

I'm more interested in why the Syrian Yak-130s do not flash anywhere. We, like, lifted the ban on their supply.

[padded jacket]

Quote: Wiruz

I'm more interested in why the Syrian Yak-130s do not flash anywhere.

And why is there now the Yak-130? It is much better to spend the money intended for them on new tanks, bulletproof vests and other necessary things for the ground forces and in the sky there are our airborne forces whose effectiveness is much greater even if the air force SAR YAK-130. In addition, personally, I think all the planes of our air group will be transferred to the Syrian Air Force in the future, except for the SU-34.

[prishelec]

Quote: quilted jacket

Make every effort to displace the Erdogan regime from his post and replace him with a leader allied to our country.

This is a grand proposal however)), but how can we achieve this? .. if we cannot even cope with the Ukrainian regime!

[padded jacket]

Quote: prishelec

Here is a grand offer however

You just have to not be so "kind".
And to change the regime relying on its opponents, as we seem to do now, "hilling" the Kurds.

[-Traveler-]

to replace the power of Erdogan in Turkey with the power of the Kurds? Is this humor or a complete misunderstanding of the situation?

[AdekvatNICK]

Turkey Syria
-Want we to help you?
-nea
- why?
-Yes, we don’t need to figure it out. Russia helps us, but your help is not needed, and you’re some sort of finished ones. Shot planes ....
-Well, we will help, because we can and want
Yes, they didn’t say the same
- well, in short, we all begin to help
-You didn’t say normal language
-Well, we have already entered the military into your territory
-you violate our rights, withdraw your troops
-What is the conclusion, we will build houses for you. We can build
-Yes, fuck off "you don't understand at all *
- in short, we will continue to help

[-Traveler-]

so perhaps it will be. only without dialogue, as Erdogan and Assad have nothing to talk about.

[Andrea]

What is this? Ukraine 2.0? Something has already heard such nonsense. The consultants, apparently, are the same.

[Armored optimist]

I work in the construction business with the Turks. Today’s Putin Decree plunged them into a panic. Turkish companies sell equipment and fold.

[Rokossovsky]

I work in the construction business with the Turks

There was such a story in 2012 ... It means that the Turks were doing some kind of work in the new terminal of Vladivostok airport. There is a water pipe under the ceiling, but the Turkish "specialists" have a wall in this place according to plans! And what do you think they are doing? Correctly! They cut out a part of the pipe, to the width of the wall and screw in the partition, wiring the cut out piece of pipe in this wall! Naturally, when the pipe was pressurized, the wall flowed like a virgin at a Tokyo hotel concert! And this is just one of the many cases! The guys from the contractor company were, to put it mildly, out of the professionalism of these subjects!

[Armored optimist]

the owner of our company - the Turks, said something like that - We taught the Russian monolith. I point to the Ostankino tower - did you teach us this? They will not die of modesty.

[Weyland]

Quote: Rokossovsky

The guys from the contracting company were, to put it mildly, in touch with the professionalism of these entities!

It was necessary to google first:
"If you want to build - call the Greeks!
Do you want to break - call the Turks!"
The author of the quote is the great poet and theologian Jalal-ed-din Rumi, revered by the Turks as a saint ...

[Weyland]

Quote: Rokossovsky

The guys from the contracting company were, to put it mildly, in touch with the professionalism of these entities!

It was necessary to google first:
"If you want to build - call the Greeks!
Do you want to break - call the Turks!"
The author of the quote is the great poet and theologian Jalal-ed-din Rumi, revered by the Turks as a saint ...

[Pulya]

Apparently Turkey with this "Erdogan" will soon cease to exist ... Internal tension will tear this country into two or three subjects.
We will see!

[Mountain shooter]

Sultan Erdogan has already tried on the crown. And it has grown. Now you can only shoot with your head. Probably, the plans for the occupation of northern Syria were so close to implementation that the work of our Aerospace Forces over this territory led to "reflex" actions. For which now ALL Turkey will pay.

[Wiruz]

Sultan Erdogan has already tried on the crown

For each sultan we find our Emperor

[-Traveler-]

in the role of emperor Putin jude low?

[AdekvatNICK]

Now it’s clear that Erdogan was planning to specifically go to most of Syria, but then the Russians arrived.

[Wiruz]

Let's throw off a glass of polonium to the Turkish Sultan

[novobranets]

Enough for him a glass of rat poison and a bag of dust for a snack, there’s nothing to pamper everyone with expensive chalcogenes.

[Wiruz]

Enough for him a glass of rat poison and a bag of dust for a snack, there’s nothing to pamper everyone with expensive chalcogenes.

I would still insist on polonium. Traditions must be observed

[novobranets]

No no no. This rat is not worthy of such frills. The rat-snout to him is what he deserves and retribution. Well, except that with a snack options are possible-warfarin, brodifacum, bromadiolone, or even some yummy.

[samarin1969]

I repeat. Erdogan Turkamonov (Northern Syria) will not surrender. In this he is supported (passionately) by the majority of Turkish citizens (with the exception of the owners of cognac hotels) ).

[Wiruz]

In such cases, we just need to play the Kurdish card

[Berkyt. en]

It is very likely that again the deer with the owners scratch their turnips, think the thought. Both Sinai and Sushka caught a calm.

[Zeppelin ml.]

cunning. Accumulated refugees to, on the one hand, to blackmail Europe for knocking out money and preferences, on the other, to establish a protectorate over a piece of Syria? This cube is even theoretically unable to coexist peacefully.

[bad]

At the first stage, the zone will stretch along the border at 98 km and will be removed inland (Syrian territory) at 45 km, while we can expand it. It will be a terror free zone, and internally displaced persons and those who are in camps in Turkey will be able to live there.

..heh..as perdogan planned everything .. just like on a book -cooky bamboo! our diplomats and military will break you .. learn history ..

[kit-kat]

To the photo:

something smells of Ukraine.

[Wiruz]

To the photo:

something smells of Ukraine.

Yeah. Erdogan will soon demonstrate to GRU reporters who were arrested in Turkey

[kit-kat]

No, I'm talking about "ch.m.o." Not pretty. The enemy is the enemy, why stoop to the kindergarten level?

[Siberian]

This is against the background of the reception of wounded fighters for treatment in Turkish clinics

By international the right to treat everyone should be, well, and then under the tribunal, like terrorists, and not again on terror and cutting heads.

At the first stage, the zone will stretch along the border for 98 km and will be removed inland (Syrian territory) for 45 km.

This is already the occupation of a foreign state, for the convenience of protection and delivery (counter-gang) of petroleum products. For this, neither harsh (SJ-SI-PU-SI), but cruel measures are needed.

[rosstov]

Yes, this Perdogan is a scumbag. It’s twisting itself, it’ll crawl into any ass, you can’t let your eyes go from this bastard.

[FIREMAN]

You need to send him a ramrod from the "three-line" - roll up the ruin!

[yuriy55]

Not only that, Erdogan is about to launch on North Syria and Turkish construction companies, in order to be able to also make money on the occupation:

[unsinkable]

Quote: unsinkable

Quote: Hello

Why sick? He is trying to achieve his goals, building the Ottoman Empire.

You asked a question and you answered it yourself. Only * a patient with a head * can build the Ottoman Empire in the modern world. The first thing that will hinder is the owner in the face of the USA. And yet: he does not take us seriously. A very bold statement. But in case Erdogan’s success in building an empire (imagine for a couple of seconds) those whom he takes seriously (maybe you too) will be the first to rush to bring him a hookah to the throne.

[am808s]

Quote: cap

"In other words, the Turkish president, under the slogan of combating terror, is actually trying to justify (legitimize) Ankara's desired occupation of a part of Syrian territory. At the same time, Erdogan adds that he is going to start a fundraising campaign for the implementation of this project."
As the "advanced" youth say: ... "Klava, I'm lying around!"
Build a concentration camp on foreign territory?
Probably the first case in world history!
There are no words alone exclamations ....!

Quote: cap

"In other words, the Turkish president, under the slogan of combating terror, is actually trying to justify (legitimize) Ankara's desired occupation of a part of Syrian territory. At the same time, Erdogan adds that he is going to start a fundraising campaign for the implementation of this project."
As the "advanced" youth say: ... "Klava, I'm lying around!"
Build a concentration camp on foreign territory?
Probably the first case in world history!
There are no words alone exclamations ....!

We say, Do not wash it like that. We need Syrian oil, even if you crack And in the future, Iraqi and Iranian will not hurt. It rolls lips not childishly.

[Velizariy]

Quote: Wiruz

Flickers T-72B received from Russia.

I'm more interested in why the Syrian Yak-130s do not flash anywhere. We, like, lifted the ban on their supply.

Well, probably because the Yak-130 is not an AKM machine and not a T-72 - you have to learn for longer ...
I think they will appear soon, not Syrian so Iranian)

[Kirill750]

I have a feeling that Erdogashka completely blown away everything thinks that NATO would intervene, but they made it clear that no one will fight because Syria and others can kick and hurt this mug

[Bulrumeb]

... and internally displaced persons and those who are in camps in Turkey will be able to live there.

read here the terrorists who are currently training in camps in Turkey

[Olegater]

At the first stage, the zone will stretch along the border for 98 km and will be removed inland (Syrian territory) by 45 km, while we can expand it. But this is a little annoying. Where 45 there and 100, and to our base probably no more than 200 km. So they want to move quietly glanders and jerk out to get ours? Well, at such h.i.t.s.a.s.a.d.hy.h. Turk MO has a bolt with a screw. Indeed, in the first place it is the occupation of a second country (the first Iraq) and in the second the target is m.a.t.s.p. all the same, our base and the military, as hostages and technology, are based on both airplanes and air defense. How do you want to make mistakes !!!!!!!!

[-Traveler-]

from our base to the Turkish border, 50-60 km, in principle, with great desire, you can get artillery (t-300 for example) without crossing the border, but I doubt what will happen.
it’s easier for the opposition to bring second-hand hail, you can always move out that it’s captured from the Syrian army, but it rolled in our Donbass.

[bankirchik34]

Well, okay, why, he took 3 billion euros from geyrops, squeezed out a piece of land from Syria, settled all the refugees there mixed with the bearded, and here you are. He also cuts down money on the construction of houses, an effective EP manager

[pvv113]

At the first stage, the zone will stretch along the border for 98 km and will be removed inland (Syrian territory) by 45 km, while we can expand it.

Why not make this zone deep into Turkish territory. After all, it is in Turkey that the Basmachi undergo spa treatment

[aleks700]

And one more question: did Mr. Erdogan think that the airborne forces of the Russian Federation and air defense systems could somewhat interfere with his plans for the occupation of Syrian territory? ..

If you threatened for your downed plane with your finger, then the regular army will not be touched. This conclusion was made for themselves in Turkey.

[red rocket]

Late already Perdogan!

[triglav]

Ataturk gives! It seems that one person writes tests of speeches to him and parashenka.

[padded jacket]

Quote: triglav

It seems that one person writes tests of speeches to him and the kid.

Most likely this is the main text of the speeches for Erdogan and Poroshenko written in the USA and amendments to it with an eye on the local flavor are made in Israel

[dchegrinec]

Erdogan resembles a snake that creeps in everywhere where it is not until someone steps on it and passes it like a gut on the sidewalk!

[AdekvatNICK]

the usa seeing how the cap is on all sides ISIS introduced a new player who used to be content with quiet oil trading. Now Erdogan, with the hidden support of NATO and the United States, begins to expand Syria. here you have the whole deal. Erdogan had nothing to lose promises before the election, he upset a mountain, and thought that it would work out a lot, but then we hit them with a source of income that should have been used. America just seems to have transferred part of me igil on and on earth Syria Turks estesstvenno subject to certain usloviy.Kakih? We’ll see soon. But there is no doubt that Russia is already in the conditions there.

[Santjaga_Garka]

Old Turk Erdogan,
Smoked a bumblebee, one glass,
Smoked a shmal, another glass
And came up with a cool plan!

Territory capture plan,
Territories in the world of the sea!
But beckons him, a grabber,
Territory in the south!

[Ostost]

And one more question: did Mr. Erdogan think that the airborne forces of the Russian Federation and air defense systems could somewhat interfere with his plans for the occupation of Syrian territory? .. - But didn’t the author think that this phrase carries hatred? And in which case Turkish tanks will be at the base in Khmeimim in a few hours? Well, that’s just it, mutual fantasies)).

[Cobra77]

In a few hours they won’t. But in a few days they can. Though with losses. The Syrians really can not restrain the Turks now. And the VKS will not be able to stop them if the Turks provide themselves with air cover. And as soon as the Turks approach 15 km, the base will need to be evacuated. True, it must be borne in mind that an attack on the base of the Russian Federation is equivalent to an attack on the territory of the Russian Federation. This is a slightly different level of conflict. And then the Turks can slow down from Washington. Provocation is one thing, another is a direct military conflict with incomprehensible consequences and prospects.

[Cobra77]

Well, the lip is not a fool for this gentleman. But here the question is more complicated, in my opinion. Purely technically, he can crank up such a fortel. Syrians have little to oppose. And the Russian Federation may not decide on a direct military response, at least even locally in that zone. The consequences will be far-reaching. This will essentially be the entry into the war with Turkey. Even if NATO is on the sidelines. It doesn’t matter that this will be the Turkish invasion of Syria, and we will help the legitimate government. Everything will be presented differently, the events of recent years have shown it perfectly. The Bosphorus in this version will close immediately, the reason is sufficient. On the economic sanctions of the Russian Federation, Turkey, even more do not care than us in the West. We definitely won’t conduct a ground operation, Vova’s eggs are not so iron. Yes, and how to supply, how to transfer? Here after all it is necessary not only to bring a battalion of marines, here it is necessary a couple of motorized infantry divisions with reinforcement. VKS alone can not cope there. Yes, and suffer losses, though not small most likely. Turks also know how to fight. The question is just how much the Turks need it, and whether they can or not.

[Nirvanko]

In order for them to enter Syria, they need air supremacy. With Russian planes in the sky of Syria, this is out of the question. In the end, this is tantamount to declaring war on Russia. The United States will not fight with Russia over Turkey, this is our Caribbean crisis and not theirs. As a result, it may so happen that Turkey will be left alone against Russia with one or another support from the United States and Britain, and this will automatically put an end to NATO so its fundamental principles will be destroyed.

[-Traveler-]

Moreover, Erdogan is going to launch Turkish construction companies in northern Syria in order to be able to earn money on occupation

interestingly, after the war, really, nobody from Turkey’s neighbors is able to rebuild Syria again, simply because no one has such production facilities.
therefore, if Syria is divided into spheres of influence in various parts of the country, the same devastation will be as it is now, and Turkey in a few years may look like this (photo of Iraqi Kurdistan):

[Nirvanko]

Cope without ghouls. First they help to destroy the country and then also load their industry. Iraq and Iran will help if necessary.

[-Traveler-]

Quote: Nirvanko

Iraq and Iran will help if necessary

and how will these poor fellows help? Iraq doesn’t produce anything except oil, Iran is far away - it will be difficult to deal with logistics, and they don’t have much money. and Turkish construction firms figachat quickly and reliably anything, even the Kazan Universiade, the Sochi Olympics, the Moscow City, the World Cup in Russia and Qatar, the whole cities in Iraqi Kurdistan. Turks produce both building materials and construction equipment, and most importantly they are not far from transporting all this.

[Cobra77]

Quote: Nirvanko

In order for them to enter Syria, they need air supremacy. With Russian planes in the sky of Syria, this is out of the question. In the end, this is tantamount to declaring war on Russia. The United States will not fight with Russia over Turkey, this is our Caribbean crisis and not theirs. As a result, it may so happen that Turkey will be left alone against Russia with one or another support from the United States and Britain, and this will automatically put an end to NATO so its fundamental principles will be destroyed.

What is excluded? Knocking our aircraft out of there? Yes, do not tell. Knock out, and quickly. How many of our fighters are there? And what about the air defense? Do you really think that the cut-off C400 complete with the even more cut-off air defense of Moscow / Varyag in that profile of the area will be able to stop the Turks? It would be nice to protect yourself and the air base. And complete superiority in the air is not required. It is enough to keep ours at a distance from ground forces. Or do you think we’ll extinguish tanks from the Caspian with gauges? And keep in mind they too will bring their Patriots closer to the scene. And our fly will also be problematic. Our people do not have sufficient stability there. First of all, from the fact that the Syrian troops are now rather weak, and our ground troops are not there and not expected.

Well, there will be no declaration of war, there will simply be extrusion of ours if that. The states will simply close their eyes, put Turkey on something and all. This will not affect NATO. Article 5 does not oblige to personally intervene in the conflict, only to provide assistance. Especially when Turkey itself will not ask for help. No reason. Cope themselves. Do not build illusions. Turkey is strong there.