Adventures of the best soldier of Saudi Arabia - a barrel of oil

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The Minister of Energy of Russia, Alexander Novak, presented his version of what, or rather, who, today has the greatest influence on the price of "black gold". As is known, the current oil quotes demonstrate anti-records not only since the height of the international economic crisis 2008-2009, but also anti-records of the 11-year period - starting with the 2004 year.

According to the Russian minister, the authorities of Saudi Arabia are “to blame” for the new stage of destabilization of the oil market, which have increased production by about 1,5 million barrels per day.

Adventures of the best soldier of Saudi Arabia - a barrel of oil


Thus, the official Riyadh is trying to eliminate not only the so-called "shale" competition, which the United States tried to impose, but also to strengthen its position in the markets due to the partial lifting of sanctions against Iran. Today, Iran intends to roughly double the supply of crude oil abroad, and until the sanctions were lifted, Tehran was “allowed” to export no more than 1 million barrels.

It should be noted that in the baseline scenario of the budget of Russia the price of oil at the level of 50 dollars per barrel is laid. This is exactly the level at which, according to the calculations of the Russian government, the budget deficit in 2016 will not exceed 2,9%. However, according to the calculations of the World Bank, the Russian economy will continue to fall, even if the price reaches the 53 dollar per barrel. A similar conclusion was made at the Central Bank of the Russian Federation.

Today's quotes do not reach the "target" indicators. And do not reach more than significantly - about 30%. The office of Elvira Nabiullina, who, if someone suddenly forgot, was foreign "partners" recognized as the best head of the Central Bank of the year among all the heads of the Central Bank of the world, said that it is likely that "the scenario will be worse than we thought." The so-called "risky scenario" determined the price of oil at the level of 40 dollars per barrel. But today, oil will not rebound from the 36-37 bar. So what is going to take the Central Bank, if the sale of oil will not bring the previously planned revenues?

If we start from the previous steps of the Bank of Russia, then we can assume that the office of Elvira Nabiullina will leave the tool unaltered to achieve its goals. And this tool is the depreciation of the ruble against the so-called main reserve currencies of the world. Already at the beginning of the week, the dollar updated highs from January of this year, making it clear that Russia is dealing practically with the deja vu of the 2014 model’s end of the year. A couple of differences is that the Central Bank tried to cut off disparate speculators from the market (although who in this case is a big speculator is the question ...) introducing special rules for acquiring foreign currency, as well as having a fixed base rate (at the end of last year it was 17,5%, and since 3 August, the key rate is at 11%).

It seems that it all boiled down to the fact that our Western "friends" finally got to the core (unless, of course, it was not with their submission that such tools were used at all) by the methods of the Central Bank and Elvira Nabiullina, and therefore leading experts of Western banks began to publish stress forecasts for the future ruble rate year. So in Bank of America-Merrill Lynch published a forecast about the ruble exchange rate on 2016, based on those indicators of the budget deficit, which was previously approved in the Russian Federation. So, American economists are confident that if everything comes down to a new stage in the devaluation of the Russian ruble, then with oil prices at 35-36 dollars per barrel, a unit of US currency in Russia will cost about 94 rubles.

Against this background, Dvorkovich’s statements he made in an interview "Vesti.Ekonomika"about the possibility of falling oil prices and up to 25 dollars, they do not add optimism. But you want to finish the year more optimistically ... However, Arkady Dvorkovich himself decided to add what are called pink tones to gray oil reports, and said that although there is a big the game in the oil market, this game cannot go on for a long time. According to the vice-premier, “it can be reached (the price of oil is up to $ 25 per barrel) - this does not mean that it will come; and if oil goes down to low quotations, investments will decrease into the industry that automatically leads to a shortage of oil growth of quotations. "

In fact, a decline in investment in the oil industry is already observed. Dozens of American shale companies that scored concessional loans for the implementation of projects burst like soap bubbles. Investments in “difficult” shelf oil in Norway, Canada, Russia, Britain, and the United States are falling. According to all the laws of the market, the price of "black gold" should have started to go up smoothly. However, again we have to remember about Saudi Arabia, which clearly decided to take what is called starvation. The cost of producing a barrel of oil in this country does not exceed 3 dollars, and therefore, with all the burning of hundreds of billions of dollars in reserves, the Saudis still have enough reserves to reduce oil prices by increasing production and supplying oil on the world market. But there are enough reserves only to finally not kill their own approach to the economy, but not to maintain the expenditure side of the budget on the values ​​to which the Saudis are so used. It should be recalled that the Saudi budget for 2015 year was made up from the value of the price of oil at the level of 95-100 dollars per barrel. In order to fulfill budget commitments, Riyadh is firing reserves as no other country in the world, including Russia, does today.

Another thing is that in Russia, the cost of oil production (at most actively developed offshore fields) is about 5-6 dollars per barrel. In other words, there is a certain stock in the Russian Federation. But the trouble is that a) we have fewer Saudi reserves in 7-8, b) it’s scary to even imagine the ruble exchange rate that our valiant Central Bank will issue at this oil price as a tool to “curb inflation” ...

And the main question is: how many more years and governments will it take for the Russian economy to react to the dynamics of oil prices quieter, and oil itself is no longer considered the sacred cow of the entire domestic financial and economic system if there is a much wider range of real tools to overcome the frequent crises ?
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  1. -1
    29 December 2015 06: 47
    Well, the Saudis! Wait! Play with the oil! But you have nothing but oil, sand and heat!
    1. +7
      29 December 2015 07: 15
      Quote: Enot-poloskun
      Well, the Saudis! Wait! Play with the oil! But you have nothing but oil, sand and heat!

      What are you waiting for? Does a raccoon creep out of the hole and start rubbing its paws?
      1. +7
        29 December 2015 07: 56
        Quote: Mera Joota
        What are you waiting for? Does a raccoon creep out of the hole and start rubbing its paws?

        Or the groundhog sees its shadow. This is the question, if the KSA budget is much more dependent on oil prices than the Russian budget, then why does the Saudi currency not devalue? Our Central Bank and the Ministry of Finance are precisely the fall in oil prices convincingly explain the depreciation of the ruble. What are Saudis doing wrong?
        1. +8
          29 December 2015 09: 09
          This is the question, if the KSA budget is much more dependent on oil prices than the Russian budget, then why does the Saudi currency not devalue?
          A fantastic answer begs, the printing press of the American currency is located in Riyadh. laughing
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        3. +1
          29 December 2015 09: 24
          Here where there are zero percent on the card, there are dollars.
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            29 December 2015 11: 26
            Where oil ends, the printing press begins.
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          29 December 2015 10: 20
          It should be noted that in the baseline scenario of the budget of Russia the price of oil at the level of 50 dollars per barrel is laid. This is exactly the level at which, according to the calculations of the Russian government, the budget deficit in 2016 will not exceed 2,9%. However, according to the calculations of the World Bank, the Russian economy will continue to fall, even if the price reaches the 53 dollar per barrel. A similar conclusion was made at the Central Bank of the Russian Federation.

          And the Saudis in the budget 2016g. pledged 29 $ per barrel. At this price, the dollar will cost already for a hundred.
          1. +1
            29 December 2015 11: 25
            And the Saudis in the budget 2016g. pledged 29 $ per barrel. At this price, the dollar will cost already for a hundred.


            Have you read this document yourself, or is it an OBS agency. I personally saw information that at this price of oil, the Saudis will have an awesome budget deficit.
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              29 December 2015 12: 05
              Quote: alicante11
              Have you read this document yourself, or is it an OBS agency.

              http://www.rbc.ru/economics/28/12/2015/568155749a794781a65a616c
              Study.
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                29 December 2015 12: 46
                http://www.rbc.ru/economics/28/12/2015/568155749a794781a65a616c
                Study.


                Yeah, well, I will not point out that you still did not see this document, but saw a retelling of it from one of the SMRAD agencies. By and large, all the information you have to take in this way and then filter it. However, you also forgot about the deficit in 87bn of dull raccoons in this scenario, and this is somewhere in the deficit of the 1 / 3 budget, even if you do not get attached to the GDP!
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                  29 December 2015 13: 09
                  Quote: alicante11
                  retelling it from one of the SMRAD agencies

                  Do you not believe RBC? And who do you believe then? Only yourself and the Armored? Moreover, there is a link to the original.
                  Quote: alicante11
                  However, you also forgot about the 87 billion shortage of dull raccoons in this scenario, and this is somewhere around 1/3 of the budget deficit

                  Did not forget. See my comment on this thread "Today, 11:22 am".
                  1. +1
                    29 December 2015 14: 14
                    Do you not believe RBC? And who do you believe then? Only yourself and the Armored? Moreover, there is a link to the original.


                    By and large, all the information you have to take in this way and then filter


                    Did not forget. See my comment on this thread "Today, 11:22 am".


                    Then what is the joy of the budget for 29 bucks with 1 / 3 deficit?
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                      29 December 2015 17: 59
                      Quote: alicante11
                      Then what is the joy of the budget for 29 bucks with 1 / 3 deficit?

                      Surely I do not know this. Recently, I rarely communicate with Saudi princes and the king. I drop their calls. From the principle.
                      But to assume that this is done to ruin competitors and capture their sales markets is possible. Competition, a difficult thing. Very often manufacturers dump, often at a loss, for the sake of future profits.
                      In addition, do not forget, CA is a kingdom. Theoretically, a monarch with relatives can replenish the state budget from their own pockets.
                      And one more, the most important thing. Perhaps they thought that a lot of oil sold at $ 29 would bring them more income than a little oil sold at $ 100.
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        5. +1
          29 December 2015 10: 32
          This map has no specifics, not everything is as smooth as it seems at first glance.
          Look at the dynamics of the real exchange rate over three years and see what volatility is going on now.

          Saudi authorities increased domestic gas prices by 40% against a record budget deficit, reports the BBC. Now gasoline in the kingdom costs 24 US cents per liter.

          Gas prices and some utilities in Saudi Arabia are traditionally kept low through subsidies. The country is a world leader in oil production. Almost one and a half times the price increase is already called by experts the largest reform in the country in recent decades.

          As previously reported, the government of Saudi Arabia planned a state budget deficit for 2016 year at the level of 327 billion riyals ($ 87 billion), or about 16% of GDP.

          According to some experts, a serious factor in the formation of the deficit was the fall in oil prices.


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            29 December 2015 11: 22
            Quote: anfil
            As previously reported, the government of Saudi Arabia planned a state budget deficit for 2016 year at the level of 327 billion riyals ($ 87 billion), or about 16% of GDP.

            Counting from GDP is, of course, something. Let's find it easier.
            Budget revenues - 137 billion dollars.
            Costs - 224 billion dollars.
            Deficit - 87 billion dollars. or 38,8%, which is a lot. This is at a fixed price of oil at 29 dollars. per barrel.
            Something tells me that the Saudis are not seriously counting on $ 29. "They make the wind", as they used to say in Odessa.
            But, on the other hand, in 2015. their budget deficit amounted to 98 billion dollars. And nothing alive so far.
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              29 December 2015 12: 31
              Quote: anew
              Budget revenues - 137 billion dollars.
              Costs - 224 billion dollars.
              Deficit - 87 billion dollars.

              This is the "Saudis" with their 0% devaluation, and in the Russian Federation, with its devaluation, a surplus fellow
        6. +1
          29 December 2015 11: 07
          The Saudis are very lucky. They do not have Nabiullina.
        7. +2
          29 December 2015 11: 23
          Our Central Bank and the Ministry of Finance explain the drop in the ruble exchange rate precisely with the fall in oil prices. What are Saudis doing wrong?


          They spend their reserves, and the Russian Federation saves. After all, they have explained it a million times. The government is restructuring corporate debt. Now corporations give a significant part of their income to foreign loans. This is done in the currency in which they receive income. When the peak of payments passes, payments will go no longer over the hill, but to the budget of the Russian Federation. That will stabilize the currency and cover the budget deficit. What does the capitalists fail to squeeze on? A budget is a sacred cow for two reasons. Firstly, it is social stability, which is especially important in conditions of confrontation with the West. And secondly, because officials saw the budget, and the smaller the amount, the less opportunity to cut it.
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            29 December 2015 11: 37
            Quote: alicante11
            The government is restructuring corporate debt. Now corporations give a significant part of their income to foreign loans. This is done in the currency in which they receive income. When the peak of payments passes, payments will go no longer over the hill, but to the budget of the Russian Federation. That will stabilize the currency and cover the budget deficit.

            Did you come up with it yourself, or did you read it somewhere? Do you remember what Professor Preobrazhensky also advised? What about "not reading the Bolshevik newspapers"? Listen.
            At the same time, I recommend that you take an interest in Russia's total debt. As well as the size of its reserve funds. As well as the cost of ALL recoverable oil reserves, taking into account its cost at the border. As well as the current price of this oil. Then bring it all together and after that draw some conclusions.
            In all these figures, only the price of oil is a variable. If it does not increase, there will be very big problems.
            1. +3
              29 December 2015 12: 42
              Do you remember what Professor Preobrazhensky also advised? What about "not reading the Bolshevik newspapers"? Listen.


              Yes, I would love to read them, but nowhere.

              At the same time, I recommend that you take an interest in Russia's total debt.


              Will you take the exam on the knowledge of all of the above indicators, or do you believe that I am in the know?
              In fact, the DEBT of Russia, mainly corporate, is just the value of the variable. After all, we are not dill and do not declare a default, but we regularly transfer debt from foreign to domestic. Therefore, external debt is reduced. And that means that the interest will remain in Russia, and not go to the West. And this is ACTIVE, is it really not clear?
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                29 December 2015 13: 04
                Quote: alicante11
                mostly corporate, is just the value of a variable.

                Of course, a variable. For example, for the first half of 1 it fell by $ 2015 billion. However, I still recommend that you understand what was written in the commentary. Due to what factors did it decline? By magic? Maybe some assets have become less?
                Quote: alicante11
                and we regularly translate borrowings from foreign into domestic.

                Yes? Do you need to extinguish the internal one? Or do you think the kiddie is supposed to be?
                And then, how does this happen, can you tell me?
                And then, what does “good” mean?
                Quote: alicante11
                Therefore, external debt is reduced. And that means that the interest will remain in Russia, and not go to the West.

                Clear. I understood your main idea about interest. We decided to save on matches. Making a fire on the living room floor.
                You need to learn the basics of economics. To give back debts is not always profitable (but now there is no other way out, because sanctions). It is often much more profitable to invest them. In order to diversify the economy, for example.
                1. +1
                  29 December 2015 14: 24
                  Of course, a variable. For example, for 1 half year 2015. it declined by 44 billion dollars.


                  In all these figures, only the price of oil is a variable.


                  Ai-ya-yi, cheating is not good, sir.

                  Due to what factors did it decline? By magic? Maybe some assets have become less?


                  Dear - assets are everything that goes "plus". Therefore, debts cannot be assets if they are not someone else's debt obligations. And it decreased due to the factor that I have already told you - the corporate debts of Russian companies are moving to Russia from overseas. They repay debts to the West by borrowing from the state. Moreover, they borrow in rubles, and give them in dollars, buying currency with them. Hence the instability of the ruble this year.

                  Yes? Do you need to extinguish the internal one? Or do you think the kiddie is supposed to be?


                  It was about external debt. And now no one is paying off debts, they are being restructured. You lagged behind, my friend, from life, now is not the 90s, what would "throw".

                  Clear. I understood your main idea about interest. We decided to save on matches. Making a fire on the living room floor.


                  And you didn’t understand anything, my dear. Read again and spell it. The debt was external, but it became internal. Interest was paid to the West, and now they remain INSIDE, that is, they go to our economy.

                  You need to learn the basics of economics.


                  Well, I’m afraid that I’m not going to finish my studies to the level that debts are “assets”.


                  It is often much more profitable to invest them.


                  Can you tell me the mechanism of investing debts? Of course, I am a dense person, I know how profit is invested, but how to invest debts, that is, what is not there, is beyond my weak understanding, as well as debt assets.
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                    29 December 2015 18: 22
                    Quote: alicante11
                    Ai-ya-yi, cheating is not good, sir

                    What did you mean? That debt has declined? So I already wrote to you that it was not reduced by itself, but as a result of the sale of a part (reduction of stock) of oil. Of course, if you sell all the oil and give the money, then the debt will somehow change, probably. Or do you think not?
                    Quote: alicante11
                    Therefore, debts cannot be assets if they are not other people's debt obligations.

                    Do you catch the thread of conversation? I actually wrote to you that the assets (oil reserves) have become a little less, because oil was sold abroad. The consequence of this was a decrease in debt, because money (dollars) from its sale partially (or completely, did not look, it does not matter) went to pay off debts.
                    Quote: alicante11
                    What do they borrow in rubles, and give in bucks, buying currency on them.

                    And where did this sold currency come from? A bucks printing press is still in Washington.
                    Quote: alicante11
                    It was about external debt. And now no one is paying off debts, they are being restructured. You are behind, my friend, from life,

                    I applaud you while standing. With the ears. Perhaps you are the only person in Russia who does not know that the main thing in sanctions against Russia is that it was deprived of the opportunity to restructure debts. That's about it, I, so retarded, and I want to tell you, such an advanced one.
                    Quote: alicante11
                    The debt was external, but it became internal.

                    Are you talking about 44 billion? Colossally. But what about the rest of the little things? With 555 billion dollars?
                    Quote: alicante11
                    Interest was paid to the West, and now they remain INSIDE, that is, they go to our economy.

                    They don’t go, but run straight. Looks like the ruble is sausage from these all incoming and outgoing interest.
                    Quote: alicante11
                    Well, I’m afraid that I’m not going to finish my studies to the level that debts are “assets”.

                    And it doesn’t shine for me. I actually wrote about credit resources. This is even understood by schoolchildren now. But not you.
                    Quote: alicante11
                    Can you tell me the mechanism of investing debts?

                    The mechanism of investing credit resources. Those. borrowed money.
                    Quote: alicante11
                    Of course I am a dense person

                    It’s good that you understand that. You would not write about the economy. Not yours. Since you don’t know what is usually borrowed not to swell everything. And not everyone takes a loan to buy a sofa. A business usually takes just to invest in something. When own funds are not enough.
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                      30 December 2015 07: 27
                      What are you talking about? That debt has declined?


                      Hm, dear, did you see the quotes that I quoted? After all, it was indicated there that the variable is only the price of oil, and then it turned out that the size of the external debt was also. That's what I mean, in a dispute you must be able to admit wrong, otherwise truth will not be born.

                      Do you catch the thread of conversation? I actually wrote to you that the assets (oil reserves) have become a little less


                      Yes, I already understood this later, I only thought that you would talk about what our reserves spent on repaying debts. But you, apparently, remember the line of conversation that the gold reserves are preserved. Just, I'm sorry, but in any oil trade, not necessarily in the repayment of debts, its amount is reduced. Such is the dialectic.

                      And where did this sold currency come from? A bucks printing press is still in Washington.


                      So the proceeds from the trade, after all, in bucks. And many expenses are in rubles. It is these expenses that go to loans from loans, and the bucks come back. But in this arz already with benefit - reducing the tax burden.

                      I applaud you while standing. With the ears. Perhaps you are the only person in Russia who does not know that the main thing in sanctions against Russia is that it was deprived of the opportunity to restructure debts


                      Dear, but your name is not Dyambo :), since you can applaud with your ears?
                      Everything is elementary, dear Watson, it is impossible to restructure debts for a hedgehog, but you can do it at home. The debts of the oligarchs from this are not reduced. But they should no longer be in the West, but in Russia, i.e. external debt decreased, restructured. And houses are also being restructured. Clear-red, at our expense. But we, in fact, spoke of currency and external debt, and not of social justice, which under capitalism would be very, very foolish to look for.
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                      30 December 2015 07: 44
                      Are you talking about 44 billion? Colossally. But what about the rest of the little things? With 555 billion dollars?


                      They will give back, as well as 44 billion. By the way, 44 billion is only a body of debt, they gave another percent to a hundred billion. And now, the peak of payments has passed - the highest interest paid, now the main body of debt will be paid. So there will be no such large payments.

                      They don’t go, but run straight. Looks like the ruble is sausage from these all incoming and outgoing interest.


                      You were told that this is "currency breakdown." The problem is that they have not yet gone, they will go from next year. 2014 and 2015 were the peak for debt. Therefore, such a problem with the currency. Well, no one canceled budget games with the dollar exchange rate. since the ruble was dropped, then God himself ordered to use it for the budget.

                      And it doesn’t shine for me. I actually wrote about credit resources. This is even understood by schoolchildren now. But not you.
                      The mechanism of investing credit resources. Those. borrowed money.


                      Ah ... that's what you mean. So they have already been ... invested. Now just pay off. And new ones, as you rightly noted, are not given ... in the West. And ours give, so they are "invested" - in the return of debts. Or can it still be repeated?

                      You would not write about the economy. Not yours.


                      Yes, not mine, of course, just when they write nonsense, well, I can’t help myself. I’m a good person, I can’t calmly watch how a person makes a laughing stock of himself.

                      Since you don’t know what is usually borrowed not to swell everything. And not everyone takes a loan to buy a sofa.


                      No, dear, you are not Dyambo (just do not be offended and do not complain to the moderators, you yourself wrote about applause with your ears). You are Captain Evidence.

                      A business usually takes just to invest in something.


                      Well, finally it came. After all, it is clear-red that the money was taken for investment. But they are ALREADY invested. And now you have to pay for them. There is such a feature as a credit schedule, according to which the debtor gives the creditor funds. So, to pay on this schedule NOW, at such oil prices, our oligarchs can not. Previously, everything was clear, refinanced and enjoy life further. But here the trap slammed. They do not give loans, sanctions, damn it burned. That oligarchs and the native state is in a hurry to help. Helping to restructure debt through domestic loans and reducing external debt. Is it clear? Or do you need to explain on the fingers?
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        8. -2
          29 December 2015 12: 27
          Quote: Ami du peuple
          why is there no devaluation of the Saudi currency?

          The most important thing on this map is the growth of the national currencies of Pakistan and Somalia against the dollar - this is who the opponents of "devaluation" should follow. laughing
        9. 0
          30 December 2015 12: 48
          Quote: Ami du peuple
          What are Saudis doing wrong?

          Well, it’s kind of said that they are burning their reserves more than even Russia. Not an option?
          The map is also interesting. Dvaluation in Angola is less than in Zambia. Angola is a very large oil exporter, Zambia in general, in my opinion, does not have its own oil fields. What are they doing wrong in Zambia? laughing Devaluation in the oil-bearing South Sudan is lower than in the oil-free Sudan (northern).
          Either something is wrong with the card, or currency devaluation is not so easily connected with oil ...
      2. -1
        29 December 2015 11: 06
        We all have something, let’s wait. But no one's expectations will come true.
      3. +1
        29 December 2015 13: 29
        And I really want Russia to really run out of oil and gas export reserves for the new year, remain only for domestic consumption, maybe then they will scratch their turnips about the real economy and the Central Bank!
      4. -1
        29 December 2015 13: 29
        But I really want Russia’s real oil and gas export reserves to run out in the new year, remain only for domestic consumption, maybe then they will scratch their turnips about the real economy and the Central Bank!
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    4. +5
      29 December 2015 11: 43
      They are investing money from oil in foreign countries and companies and have created an international financial system in their country, so I would not rush to say "They have nothing but oil".
    5. +6
      29 December 2015 12: 31
      It is a big mistake to think that the Saudis are doing all this on their own .. No, they are backed by world capital, the Saudis themselves are no one to call! Where does all their money lie * Who supplies them with equipment for oil production? Who are the experts that produce this oil? Who supplies absolutely ALL goods to these countries? Can anyone tell you what is produced in these countries besides oil and gas? And who guards all these towers, terminals, tankers, all the wealth acquired .. Whose weapons and PMCs guarantee peace and tranquility in these countries? Accordingly, there is no talk of stifling slate, all this is empty. the fact that in the USA these projects are closed is complete nonsense, they will print pieces of paper and cover all losses, but the infrastructure and technologies will remain, and at an hour when it comes down it is quite possible to preserve everything, but there will be some losses, but this is minuscule because money is invested in real projects made of concrete and steel and not virtual zeros like some .. So the blow is applied exclusively to Russia, and all the rest are a bonus, all these Venezuela, Iran and others are so addition .. Russia is the last stronghold to the global capture of the WHOLE WORLD, it will be devoured by the fate our civilization will be sad, a handful of "elite" and a chipped herd .. That is why the Saudis are working in the interests of these comrades., and they have no choice, that they will lose absolutely everything, and palaces, yachts and a well-fed calm life ..
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        29 December 2015 14: 36
        Russia is not the last bastion for the seizure of the world, there is still China, followed by India.
        1. -2
          29 December 2015 14: 55
          Quote: Vadim237
          there is still China

          De facto, though he is obstinate, he is part of the "US economy."
          1. 0
            29 December 2015 19: 13
            The fact of the matter is that just part of the US economy is located in China.
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              29 December 2015 21: 11
              Quote: Vadim237
              In fact of the matter

              The fact of the matter is that the head offices of the joint venture, R&D, the main sales market are still located in the USA and the EU request
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          29 December 2015 20: 45
          What is the difference between Russia and China and India? The presence of material and intellectual resources .. Not China and India do not have this .. Of course there is a crowd of workers, a mass of machine tools and factories, full of semi-trained engineers and programmers, but this is only enough to attend to today's production facilities and technologies., And not about what kind of competition in the light of high technology is not in question, I repeat that China that India is a factory but not a scientific institution, and if we add here their 100% dependence on raw materials, it becomes clear that after the fall of Russia they are destined for free workers and they will change nothing can't do this ..
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            30 December 2015 16: 30
            "China and India do not have material and intellectual resources" - are you laughing?
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              2 January 2016 20: 31
              No ... you consider globally .. Neither the minerals needed to dominate the world, not intellectual .. What is the breakthrough that is open or done in China or India? In the best case, something in cooperation with Europeans, Americans, Russians ... Itself absolutely nothing! Russia still has it all ..
  2. +29
    29 December 2015 06: 55
    Russia, unlike Saudi Arabia, is also an industrial and agricultural state. T / e, it may not be able at low oil prices to ensure a rapid increase in living standards, but it may well feed itself, unlike SA.
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      29 December 2015 07: 26
      Quote: Aron Zaavi
      Russia, unlike Saudi Arabia, is also an industrial and agricultural state.
      Your words, yes to the Russian leadership in the ears!
      1. -1
        29 December 2015 07: 35
        Quote: Aleksander
        Your words, yes to the Russian leadership in the ears!

        Have you already solved all the problems in Moldova? Or criticize exclusively, the actions of the Russian government.
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          29 December 2015 08: 42
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Quote: Aleksander
          Your words, yes to the Russian leadership in the ears!

          Have you already solved all the problems in Moldova? Or criticize exclusively, the actions of the Russian government.

          Our government needs to be shot through one for their work, some Finnish speculators thrive on wild jumps in the dollar against the ruble. And these creatures still give them money for this ten times more than for real industry. We have a wonderful government
          1. -3
            29 December 2015 11: 30
            Our government needs to be shot through one for their work, some Finnish speculators thrive on wild jumps in the dollar against the ruble.


            Well, if you think about it? In order to win in the speculative market you need to have insider information about the quotes. Otherwise, like roulette, you still lose. And, in your opinion, will the government hang out at every corner the time of the exchange rate? Naturally, there are speculators, but this is not such a mass phenomenon as to consume tens of times more than the funds allocated for the real industry.
            1. +1
              29 December 2015 20: 30
              Quote: alicante11
              Our government needs to be shot through one for their work, some Finnish speculators thrive on wild jumps in the dollar against the ruble.


              Well, if you think about it? In order to win in the speculative market you need to have insider information about the quotes. Otherwise, like roulette, you still lose. And, in your opinion, will the government hang out at every corner the time of the exchange rate? Naturally, there are speculators, but this is not such a mass phenomenon as to consume tens of times more than the funds allocated for the real industry.

              let's argue about the current situation is useless, we are peasants, we have a minimum of information, roughly speaking, but let's look at the 1998 crisis, time has passed, something has started to come up, the situation with the exchange rate is similar, I read what - several hundred large entrepreneurs, up to 1000 at that golden time, rose a lot on such a secret infa. in the current situation, I do not even doubt that, in the common interests of employees from the Central Bank and capital owners, including foreign owners, and people from our government - representatives of the interests of large capital owners - SUCH INFORMES MERGER IN TIME, AND IF BEING MORE OPEN, THEN BY ORDER OF LARGE BUSINESS, PEOPLE FROM THE GOVERNMENT CARRY OUT INTERESTS ALIEN TO THE PEOPLE IN LIFE
          2. +2
            29 December 2015 12: 19
            Quote: Alexander Romanov
            Quote:

            Have you already solved all the problems in Moldova? Or criticize exclusively, the actions of the Russian government


            No, any actions of any manuals that I do not like. And it was not criticism, but a GOOD wish Yes
            Yes, and say, by the way, finally (!) - what can I say, and what nototherwise I’m always I get into a mess.. request belay
        2. -4
          29 December 2015 09: 54
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Have you already solved all the problems in Moldova? Or criticize exclusively, the actions of the Russian government.

          So now it’s fashionable to kick Russia. Passion, so to speak, is transmitted. And the flock syndrome - they all gnaw, and I will bite.
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          29 December 2015 10: 52
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          Have you already solved all the problems in Moldova?

          And then. All problems have been largely resolved. Recently, the standard of living has overtaken Nigeria, Benin and Sao Tome. New "heights" are next. These are Cambodia, Congo and Lesotho.
          That is not what I said. This is Credit Suisse at the end of 2014. stated.
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    3. 0
      29 December 2015 07: 49
      Quote: Aron Zaavi
      Russia, unlike Saudi Arabia, is also an industrial and agricultural state. T / e, it may not be able at low oil prices to ensure a rapid increase in living standards, but it may well feed itself, unlike SA.

      All the same, Israel must be annexed to Russia, on the basis of broad autonomy, of course, with benefits and so on. Since many Jews are much smarter than our Zyuganovs.
      For fun, I listened to what Zyuganov was saying. In five minutes, he shared the budget of Russia live. I was so happy that he was not the president of Russia.
      1. 0
        29 December 2015 08: 29
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        All the same, Israel must be annexed to Russia, on the basis of broad autonomy, of course, with benefits and other things.

        Let’s do without it somehow, especially since your allies from Damascus will not appreciate it. wink
        1. -2
          29 December 2015 11: 12
          And also attach them. And then in the State Duma to observe verbal battles. Fun and without blood.
      2. +1
        29 December 2015 09: 09
        I was so happy that he was not the president of Russia.

        Alexander, what will you do if the people having suffered after our government choose Zyuganov? So what are you? Have some fun?
        1. +4
          29 December 2015 09: 42
          Quote: Consul-t
          if the people having suffered our government will choose Zyuganov?

          the scenario is fantastic. And what kind of sartpap will Grandfather Zu have? Traditional, commie style - "to the core"? Then, for five years, mumbling about the legacy left by the "democrats", he will distribute portfolios and benefits to the near and distant circle, arrange rotations in the outback, where the majors will urgently change party cards, for another five years they will build a vertical ... Yes, the perspective is still ...
          1. +3
            29 December 2015 11: 14
            Grandfather Zu is an opportunist. He will not destroy. Can not. Yes, and fit into the article, it has its own stable profit. He will be balabol like a humpbacked Judas, no more.
            1. +1
              29 December 2015 17: 33
              Quote: Pereira
              Grandfather Zu is an opportunist. He will not destroy. Can not. Yes, and fit into the article, it has its own stable profit. He will be balabol like a humpbacked Judas, no more.

              a plus.
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        3. 0
          29 December 2015 11: 13
          ..... Lexander, what will you do if the people, having suffered after our government, choose Zyuganov? ...

          .... Unfortunately - it will not work .... Nobody has yet canceled elective technologies ..... Who will be appointed - that will be .... lol
        4. 0
          29 December 2015 16: 20
          Quote: Consul-t
          if the people having suffered our government will choose Zyuganov?

          Ahahaha, the people are under oppression with us, you see from exiles lol
          As for the choice of Zyuganov, you can believe me that the number of idiots in our country is not so great as to vote for Zyugan.
      3. +1
        29 December 2015 09: 17
        We already have a Jewish Autonomous Region.
    4. +1
      29 December 2015 09: 21
      Russia's problem is that a lot of products are bought abroad, despite the fact that the country may well feed itself. From this and prices are rising. There will be their own products - prices will stop - few people will care about the ruble / dollar exchange rate.
      With industrial goods, the issue is more complicated.
      1. +1
        29 December 2015 09: 33
        Yeah! Its products! With such prices for energy and fuel, we will soon have products on our coupons. 20 million low-income citizens who are going to help. The Saudis, looking at rising prices and the crisis, simply decided to lower raw material prices. We all dreamed of low media prices and the dream came true! And why no one has joy?
        1. +1
          29 December 2015 10: 56
          Saudi Arabia announced an increase in gas prices by as much as 40%. The reason for the sharp rise was the budget deficit record in the history of the country.
          As Saudi King Salman Ibn Abdulaziz Al Saud stated, the country will seek other sources of income. It is assumed that budget expenditures will be reduced by approximately 10%, and some foreign assets will be sold.
          Recall that the largest oil exporter in the world, Saudi Arabia, began to cut project budgets and military purchases. Also in the country for the first time introduced VAT.

          The fall in oil prices exacerbated the economy of Saudi Arabia, forcing the country to open its own Stock Exchange for foreigners in June 2015. The Saudi authorities also relaxed the rules for investors in order to attract them to their direct shares to reduce the country's economy’s dependence on oil.


      2. +1
        29 December 2015 10: 49
        Quote: Al_oriso
        Russia's problem is that a lot of products are bought abroad, despite the fact that the country may well feed itself. From this and prices are rising. There will be their own products - prices will stop - few people will care about the ruble / dollar exchange rate.
        With industrial goods, the issue is more complicated.

        Well, give some foie gras, but we have a dumb banana belay
  3. +8
    29 December 2015 07: 12
    In the department of Elvira Nabiullina, who, if someone suddenly forgot, was foreign "partners" recognized as the best head of the Central Bank of the year among all the heads of the Central Bank of the world,


    As a citizen of RUSSIA, I consider NABIULLINA the worst head of the Central Bank ... looking at what she has done with the ruble savings of the citizens of RUSSIA ...
    for her, the interests of ordinary citizens do not exist ... to hell with me such a Central Bank that thinks only about the interests of usurers-bankers.
    1. +12
      29 December 2015 07: 17
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      for her, the interests of ordinary citizens do not exist ...

      Here are those times. Is there someone up there who is interested in ordinary citizens? Please list.
      1. 0
        29 December 2015 07: 36
        Quote: Mera Joota
        Is there someone up there who is interested in ordinary citizens?

        If you were not interested, you would not be on the site, for the simple reason that you would have nothing to pay for the Internet.
        1. 0
          29 December 2015 09: 18
          Quote: Alexander Romanov
          If you were not interested, you would not be on the site, for the simple reason that you would have nothing to pay for the Internet.

          Yes, of course, I could not breathe either?
        2. 0
          29 December 2015 23: 57
          If everything had been so bad, there could well have been a Revolution here, with the Cheka, and the bourgeoisie, without trial or investigation. It’s only worth starting in Russia, and others will finish. That’s what’s up there and afraid of
      2. +2
        29 December 2015 09: 58
        Quote: Mera Joota
        Is there someone up there who is interested in ordinary citizens?

        They say that God, up there, is sometimes interested in the problems of ordinary citizens ... what
    2. +4
      29 December 2015 07: 25
      The root of evil is that bankers do not know - money cannot be eaten!
      1. 0
        29 December 2015 09: 34
        But you can’t even eat without money!
    3. -1
      29 December 2015 11: 00
      Quote: The same LYOKHA
      As a citizen of RUSSIA, I consider NABIULLINA the worst head of the Central Bank ... looking at what she has done with the ruble savings of the citizens of RUSSIA ...


      What did she do, did I miss something? Maybe it's time for me to run to pick up my "coffin" and translate into real?
      1. 0
        29 December 2015 12: 46
        And what did she do, did I miss something?


        smile It’s too late to run ... the ruble is free-floating ... like your denyuzhki ... now CENTROBANK will not protect the ruble from market leaps, which means that your savings are completely dependent on the unpredictability of the market.
  4. +2
    29 December 2015 07: 12
    It is necessary to express support for the Yemenis, having taken care of their struggle against the aggressor, in the person of the Saudis, to imitate a series of closed negotiations with their representatives ..... and the price of oil will begin to rise tomorrow.
  5. 0
    29 December 2015 07: 14
    how many more years and governments will be needed for the Russian economy to react more calmly to the dynamics of oil quotations, and oil itself ceased to be considered the sacred cow of the entire domestic financial and economic system

    As much as the current government will exist. Rather, in the form in which it is, regardless of the physical state of GDP ...
    1. -1
      29 December 2015 07: 29
      Is our GDP not separate from the government? And the power in Russia is Jewish - oligarchic,
      Thatcher and Albright said that fifteen million people should live in Russia, that’s our rulers who are carrying out the program, and all of Syria and graters with Obama are for propaganda.
      1. -2
        29 December 2015 07: 37
        Quote: SarS
        And the power in Russia is Jewish - oligarchic,

        You can arrange a maidan, overthrow a legitimate government, put impostors, as in Ukraine, and you will be happy with a broken trough.
        1. +1
          29 December 2015 09: 06
          But in fact, dear, what are the three differences between Russia and Ukraine?
          The exact same modes. One only fulfills the wishes of the sponsors, the second pretends to be independent!
          If Putin is a patriot of the Russian people, let him carry out the nationalization of industry and the mining industry, close the central bank branch of the Fed, declare that the Yeltsin regime is criminal and arrest all its remaining comrades-in-arms, arrest all embezzlers, etc.
          And the Maidan was staged by the same Jewish oligarchs who own all Russian property.
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          2. 0
            30 December 2015 09: 49
            Yes epterez - don't you understand what such a sharp course would mean for the West that the "masks" are not simply "thrown off", that they have already "fallen down". And then they will crush us without stopping without stopping. Regardless of any losses on their part. And we need time.
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      2. +2
        29 December 2015 09: 24
        Quote: SarS
        Is our GDP not separate from the government?

        He is under her. His departure will not especially change the situation. Even the coming to power of all the unloved liberals will not change much.
        Quote: SarS
        and all these Syria and graters with Obama-for propaganda.

        This is a circus for the gray mass, and it is easy to make it gray, do not give a damn about education and it’s ready ...
        Our rulers from high tribunes fight with the "damned west" ... but prefer to be treated, rest and even die there ...
  6. +14
    29 December 2015 07: 49
    Saudis produce about 13% of world oil production. Russia - about the same (if in tons). About the same is the USA. Between these three players and there is a battle. The advantage of the mattress is the printing press. The Saudis have accumulated reserves and a relatively small population. The advantage of Russia is that it does not live by a single oil, and an enterprising people, not subject to whining.
    So let's see whose take. I put on Russia.
    1. -1
      29 December 2015 10: 07
      America will be a little shocked, but not by much.
      Russia will adapt and ultimately benefit.
      What S. Arabia is striving for - it is not clear, whether it is domination, or "lick America in one place", or "the reins fell under the tail", or are they carried away by very economic games? She will be the loser.
      1. +2
        29 December 2015 17: 17
        Quote: Al_oriso
        What S. Arabia is striving for - it is not clear, whether it is domination, or "lick America in one place", or "the reins fell under the tail", or are they carried away by very economic games? She will be the loser.

        Come on, drive a naive about SA. They are not independent.
        Most people have a very short memory and a complete lack of desire to put 2 and 2 in their heads (and, in fact, why, if the telezvizdit calls what is needed).
        I will not, if not cause an explosion in the brains of the venerable public, delve into the jungle of causes and effects, but I remind you that in April the 14th someone Barack Obamych rolled into the SA and had a one-on-one communication with the monarch. Officially, one might say, they modestly kept silent about the results of the visit ...
        On the other hand, in Russia, from all over, it was rushing: "USA - SAUDI ARABIA: DISAPPOINTING RESULTS OF BARACK OBAMA'S VISIT".
        But after three months, a drop in prices began.
        And the Saudis clearly stated that they did not intend to keep prices.
        Like, yeah, the "invisible hand of the market" ... wassat
  7. +7
    29 December 2015 07: 58
    Quote: Enot-poloskun
    Well, the Saudis! Wait! Play with the oil! But you have nothing but oil, sand and heat!

    But why will they wait! The cost of oil is low. The quality of oil is high. The population of the country is small, and the gold and foreign exchange reserves are such that they can give oil for free for several years to kill competitors. Sheikhs think that they will not die of hunger - each has many millions of accounts. This applies not only to the SA, but to other Gulf monarchies, they will survive. Yes hi
    1. cap
      -1
      29 December 2015 09: 44
      Quote: fa2998
      But why will they wait! The cost of oil is low. The quality of oil is high. The population of the country is small, and the gold and foreign exchange reserves are such that they can give oil for free for several years to kill competitors. Sheikhs think that they will not die of hunger - each has many millions of accounts. This applies not only to the SA, but to other Gulf monarchies, they will survive.

      Be sure when all the sheikhs run out of dollars, they will immediately come to the aid of the United States with its Fed. And what will they do ....
      That's right ... they will give a CREDIT. Q.E.D.
      Russia has a way out developing trade relations with its BRICS partners and China, not using the dollar, but switching to settlements in national currencies. What is now being done. Which brings the US into a state of near hysteria. Something like this hi
    2. +4
      29 December 2015 11: 15
      The fact of the matter is that amers have a printing press, the Saudis have billions of products from this press, so they got worried when some countries decided to abandon this printed "product with dead US presidents.
      Iraq, Libya, when their rulers wanted more independence, "ate" without hesitation, but Russia is not going down the throat. Therefore, the United States and the Saudis have made a mess with oil in order to overthrow the Russian government with the help of a deteriorating social system.
      It was much more difficult for our ancestors after the war, and even they could withstand it, can we really not stand it.
      1. -1
        29 December 2015 12: 28
        Even if you have a printing press, you can’t just palm off your money. What would your candy wrappers take, you need to interest the taker. How? Your client must be as poor as a mouse. And if he is rich? So he must be made a beggar. After all, did Europe become a beggar through Nazism? Made. Why can't this be repeated today? And having made the client poor, he can offer different nishtyaki for their candy wrappers. Moreover, you yourself produce these nishtyaki.
    3. 0
      30 December 2015 05: 22
      Hence the conclusion. An urgent need to organize war there.
  8. +1
    29 December 2015 08: 20
    If at least part of the efforts that we spend in foreign policy to maintain the world price of oil and gas, the struggle for buyers in this market, were directed to the reorganization of the domestic economy, the safety margin of our state and society would be much higher.
  9. +4
    29 December 2015 09: 15
    The question is in whose interests Nabiullina controls the Central Bank - in the interests of Russia or in the interests of a handful of oligarchs and foreign corporations - in my opinion, has long been gone. But Putin is happy with everything. Then think for yourself, as they say ...
    1. -3
      29 December 2015 11: 58
      Nabiulina and the Central Bank steer in the interests of our treasury, since 2016 90 percent of the Central Bank’s revenues will go to the treasury, that’s the reality.
  10. +3
    29 December 2015 09: 26
    Quote: Ami du peuple
    This is the question, if the KSA budget is much more dependent on oil prices than the Russian budget, then why does the Saudi currency not devalue? Our Central Bank and the Ministry of Finance explain the drop in the ruble exchange rate precisely with the fall in oil prices. What are Saudis doing wrong?

    Saudis spend their reserves on maintaining the national currency. This is what we did in 2009.
    With a short-term drop in oil prices, this would be a ride. But the depreciation will give impetus to the entire economy, and not just the oil sector. The course should be real, not artificial. But the real one is when the cost of production in our country is not more expensive than import. It's just that we are used to living with an overvalued ruble.
  11. +3
    29 December 2015 10: 01
    And if you bomb the towers in Saudi Arabia, then oil prices will skyrocket to $ 1000 per barrel. Well, at the expense of 1000, I certainly turned down, prices should still fly up
    1. 0
      29 December 2015 11: 59
      Only no one will do this.
  12. -1
    29 December 2015 10: 38
    Saudis play out once !!!
  13. +3
    29 December 2015 10: 56
    The budgets of the Saudis and Iraq for 2016 already have a decent deficit, i.e. oil will still fall. Well, the wonderful economic policy of our economic bloc will drive the ruble even deeper into the swamp.
  14. Dam
    +5
    29 December 2015 11: 39
    Hybrid wars must be played by their own rules. We need to help Yemen, and then we'll see if Saudi Arabia will be on the world map
  15. +2
    29 December 2015 12: 22
    And where is the “invisible hand of the market"? Something is not heard of the last time of the spells and mantras of the liberals on this subject, although for a long time everyone’s feet have grown from this arm! )))

    A market economy and a bluff about the public utility of market self-regulation.
    http://pr0zrenie.narod.ru/Information/02_09.htm
  16. -4
    29 December 2015 13: 01
    Yesterday, Beglaryan stated in the Course of the day that at a price of 35 per barrel, oil producing capacities will begin to be actively withdrawn, and according to his estimate, production will decrease by 2,5 million barrels per day within six months, which will push oil quotes up. He considers the level of 35 per barrel to be a critical milestone.
    1. 0
      29 December 2015 13: 18
      It has long been clear to everyone that the situation with oil prices was provoked by the United States and its satellites, in particular Saudi Arabia, and all the lies here on the site about some kind of "crisis" (especially some figures from Israel succeeded in this) in Russia about "self-falling" lol oil oversaturation of the market and so on is nothing but a way of stirring up people's discontent against our government. We must understand that there is a war against us while it is purely economic and the task of the United States and its satellites like the EU, Israel, CA, Qatar is to "drop" the standard of living of the country's population as low as possible, create the largest possible layer of people dissatisfied with the life of people and eventually destroy the country.
      It is Saudi Arabia that is guilty of destabilizing the global oil market, said Energy Minister Alexander Novak.
      Saudi Arabia this year increased its production by 1,5 million barrels per day, thereby destabilizing the situation, in fact, in the market.

      http://rusvesna.su/economy/1451311906
    2. +1
      29 December 2015 17: 48
      Quote: Tektor
      Yesterday, Beglaryan stated in the Course of the day that at a price of 35 per barrel, oil producing capacities will begin to be actively withdrawn, and according to his estimate, production will decrease by 2,5 million barrels per day within six months, which will push oil quotes up. He considers the level of 35 per barrel to be a critical milestone.
      Opinion is one of uksperd, no more.
      Blessed is he who believes ...
    3. +1
      29 December 2015 18: 51
      But now the question arises: Why should the main market players have to lower production and raise the price of oil in order to protect the main competitors? But this is exactly what you are writing about. No, production will increase until the budgets of market players hold on or until a minimum of players remains on the market.

      Adding companies according to The Guardian are preparing for the price of $ 20 per barrel.

      http://www.theguardian.com/business/2015/dec/08/oil-producers-prepare-prices-hal
      ve-20-barrel
  17. +2
    29 December 2015 13: 12
    Trusting people are never rich.
  18. 0
    29 December 2015 13: 13
    One powerful salvo by Hussite Iskander missiles at Saudi oil towers and oil storage facilities - and by evening tonight oil will cost 300 bucks a barrel ...))))))
    But Russia will sooner or later have to hit the face of God's chosen n-dos and their satraps !!! It’s to beat and not to give a stick !!! Because the star-striped flock will not stop and will not recede without receiving properly in the face !!! Checked by history !!!
    "Those proud who fly high are cured only by falling and nothing else ..." Seneca
  19. +1
    29 December 2015 15: 00
    I do not know. But I have a feeling that the problems with the ruble and, accordingly, in the economy are somehow connected with the appointment of Nabiulina to the Central Bank. As soon as this young lady appeared there, problems began.
  20. +2
    29 December 2015 15: 17
    Comrades officers! Attention please. I would not like to repeat myself, but I have to. Today there are three leading countries in oil production - Saudi Arabia, Russia, and the United States. And if in the first and third countries high-quality and highly profitable oil is produced, then in Russia, on the contrary, it is low-quality and low-profit oil. The world leader in consumption is the United States. In addition, the entire world oil trade is carried out for the "oil phantomists", and the printing press of these "oil phantomists" is in the hands of the private joint stock company "US Federal Reserve System". Now think about who benefits and who regulates oil prices. And you say the market.
    Now I am explaining for those who are particularly dull. In 1972, the Saudis sold oil for the national currency, on average 4 "wrappers" per barrel, while its cost did not exceed 3 "wrappers", during this period Russia was selling its oil, at best. at a price not higher than 3 "candy wrappers" per barrel and its cost, at best, was within 5 "candy wrappers". In 1973, the United States entered into an agreement with the Saudis, according to which they pledged to trade oil only for "candy wrappers". In exchange, the United States pledged to supply the Saudis with their modern weapons and provide support in the confrontation with Israel. In addition, under the agreement, the Saudis had to invest surplus profits in US debt at interest. The Saudis agreed and the price of oil rose to 30 wrappers per barrel. What did the Saudis get in the end? A conventional example is the cost of a barrel of high-quality oil - 30 "candy wrappers", the prime cost - 3 "candy wrappers", the purchase of weapons and other nishtyaks - 7 "candy wrappers", there are 20 "candy wrappers" left, for which government bonds are bought at 10% (+2 "wrappers" ) and as a result the Saudis receive 30 (32 + 30) wrappers instead of 2 "candy wrappers" for a barrel. Profit - 29 "candy wrappers" (32-3 = 29). Is it profitable? Sure.
    What does Russia get? A conventional example is the cost of a barrel of low-quality oil - 15 "candy wrappers", the cost of 5 "candy wrappers", profit - 10 "candy wrappers". So who, in your opinion, is profitable to play on lower oil prices?
    Now, what does Russia gain from abandoning the wrapper? When selling oil for rubles, the counterparty must buy rubles from Russia for its own currency, and then buy oil for rubles. For example, conditionally a barrel of our oil costs 1000 rubles, then, for example, China needs to buy 1000 rubles from us for 300 yuan, and then buy a barrel of oil for 1000 rubles. As a result, we get 1000 rubles + 300 yuan per barrel. Is it profitable? Sure. This is the arithmetic. Therefore, mattress toppers will not give up their benefits without a fight. Here, somehow so short.
    1. 0
      29 December 2015 19: 12
      Quote: potalevl
      Today, there are three leading countries in oil production - Saudi Arabia, Russia, and the USA. And while in the first and third countries high-quality and highly profitable oil is produced, in Russia, on the contrary, low-quality and low-profit oil are produced.

      Do not smack nonsense!
      Here is a map of average oil quality in Eurasia.
      On the whole, in Russia, the share of high-quality oil is 1,2% higher than the average for Eurasia.
      1. +1
        29 December 2015 20: 15
        Respected! Before you blame someone for incompetence, learn to qualitatively argue your comments. The point is that in Russia, mainly low-quality oil is produced, with a high sulfur content and at rather low depths, and so that it has at least minimal competitiveness, close to low-sulfur, it is mixed with higher quality, which entails an increase in cost. So, keep the materiel and your average temperature in the hospital with you. Something like this.
        If there are any objections to the assessment of the role of the PJSC "US Federal Reserve", given by me, in an effort to establish world economic dominance through the introduction of "candy wrapper" or "oil phantom" into the world economy, as you wish, substantiate your objections without resorting to an average hospital temperature. I think, and not without reason, that only the rejection of "candy wrapper" or "oil phantom" is able to lead Russia out of this economic trap. Everything else is just demagoguery. Sorry if I spoke harshly.
  21. 0
    29 December 2015 16: 50
    There are two conceptual questions in Russia.
    If the first answer is found, then it remains to answer the second - what to do?
    And it seems like a crowd of smart people, but the problem is not solved. Then a no less global question arises - maybe there is an error in the answer to one of the questions?
  22. AX
    0
    29 December 2015 17: 19
    I’m wildly sorry, but the r.p.o.s.t.i.t.o.o. and they are oil - Saudis ...
  23. -2
    29 December 2015 17: 31
    There is bread, there is sausage --- we’ll wait. The main thing is to work and develop, help the President, He will taxi out and the enemies will be at our feet. This is such a war !!! Economical and political.
  24. Erg
    +1
    29 December 2015 23: 10
    I think there is a flaw in the special services, in terms of agents and subversive activities behind enemy lines. Any money invested in Yemen will pay off tenfold. Time to shake this American "toilet paper" (CA) properly. How much can you tell people about the price of oil. Overproduction, mother. Maybe cars are getting cheaper? They are also overproduction ... Labor force, development, development, transport, energy - everything is becoming more expensive. So where does oil fall from? Because a dozen Illuminati, having a similar experience of strangling the USSR, repeat this plan with Russia?
    1. 0
      30 December 2015 09: 57
      It's time to go. A good war game and longer.
    2. 0
      30 December 2015 20: 31
      Maybe cars are getting cheaper?


      Actually, yes, they are getting cheaper. Only here, their prime cost is significantly higher than that of oil, therefore the cost level is relatively low.

      . So why does oil fall?


      Since its cost is very, very low compared to market value and market players began to sell it at a price significantly lower than the market value. That's how 100+ dollars per barrel turned into 30+ per barrel.